1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Well, hello there, thank you for joining us today on 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: this daily podcast from Body and Soul Got Healthy Ish 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: of course, I am the host of Felicity Helly Now. 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: It's been five years since the last Body and Soul 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: sex survey or Census, so we thought it was due 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,319 Speaker 1: time we did another. Our team asked more than two 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: thousand Australians between the ages of eighteen and seventy five, 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: all sorts of questions about sexual health, wellness, pleasure, dating, 9 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. We're talking online dating trends today 10 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: and joining me in the studio is Sarah Bosa. She's 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: an evidence based dating coach and the founder of the 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: dating coaching brand Sideswiped. Now, if you like what you 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: hear from Sarah, are listening to Extra Healthy Ish, where 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: she tells you how to win at online dating and 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: can search for that wherever you get your podcasts Sarah, 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: welcome to Healthy Ish, and we have to let our 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: listeners know that you have worked across the Body of 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: SO brand. Yes, so nice to have you here in 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: the chair. Happy to be back. Now we're talking obviously 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: about the Body in SOULD twenty twenty four Sex Census 21 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: Talk us through the main ways people meet their partners nowadays. 22 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: So interestingly, a lot of things in dating have changed 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: and also a lot of things haven't. So based on 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: the survey, the most common way to meet your partner 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: is still through family and friends. Next app would be 26 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: work or the office hopefully. Oh interesting, maybe stealing the 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: situation there, and also interesting considering the COVID years and 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: that we're spending less time in the office. And amazingly, 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: the next most popular way is dating apps. Nearly half 30 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: forty three percent of Ozzie's have used dating apps, even 31 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Ozzie's seventy five plus, which is a stat I love 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: to hear. 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: My goodness, Oh that is so nice to hear. Heartwarming. Yeah. 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: Are are they especially dating apps for that age group? 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: For that? 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Do they just use the rest of rest of the bunch? 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: I think they just adjust their age filters. Who knows, 38 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: maybe they'll be a Golden Tinder edition. 39 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's just talk about about the fifty percent. 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: What was that? I can't remember the actual stat around 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: meeting through family and friends. This is very reassuring for 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: people who are a single, I think because I don't 43 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: know about you, but often you know I'm obviously married, 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: but often my friends who are single, I think I 45 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: can never meet anyone where are your friends? So it's 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: up to us to introduce ourselves to People's up to 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: us to introduce our friends to our other friends. 48 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I mean there's that classic example of going 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: to a wedding and meeting someone. There's so much love 50 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: in the room, and you're all surrounded by friends and family, 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: and you're all vetted. I think one big, an amazing 52 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 2: thing In some ways that dating apps introduced were people 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 2: you had otherwise never cross paths with or would never 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: have connected with. But sometimes when you extend things too far, 55 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 2: you lose that sense of connection and for familiarity and 56 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 2: you know your friends, you know, knowing who they dated 57 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: in high school and. 58 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: All that sort of stuff. Interestingly, four percent it doesn't 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: say much, but I think it's quite a big deal. 60 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Four percent meet via DM. Talk to us about this. 61 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: How do you go about asking someone out on the DM? 62 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: Shoot your shot? 63 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: I say, I have actually done this all Okay, time 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: tell us or first, it actually starts with your feed. 65 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: You need a good single social esthetic, So your first 66 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: six or nine grid posts need to be you living 67 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: your best single life, get every ex partner off your feed, 68 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: because you don't want to make it confusing when someone 69 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: looks at your profile and they try to guess, hang on, 70 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: are they single or not? 71 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: Now I'm very confused. 72 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: You don't necessarily need to archive or delete your ex's 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: but you need to bump them down the grid. 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: So you need photos of you in Europe, you like 75 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: clinking glasses, you know, on the beach, somewhere in Australia. 76 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: You just you running whatever is your interest. 77 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely you living your best single life, and then comes 78 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: the dam slide. 79 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: There are two main. 80 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: Styles to do this, and I think that the best 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: way to get your head around this is think of 82 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: your digital flirting behavior to mimic any of your irl 83 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: flirting behavior. So let's say you're at a bar the 84 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: good old days and you're there to meet someone. You 85 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 2: can either scan the room clock someone cute, waste no time, 86 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: confidently walk up to them and say how's your night going? 87 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: Or Hey, what's that you're drinking? On Instagram? That would 88 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: translate to a follow and then a dam straight off 89 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: the bat with one or two lines, really direct. There's 90 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: that approach or style. 91 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: Does that work? 92 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: It can again, it's going to be how you present 93 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: yourself on your grid. 94 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, the grid matters. 95 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: The grid matters, and what sort of existing interest is there? 96 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: Style two, which I would recommend a bit more. Let's 97 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: go back to the bar. Metaphorically, you'd scout the room 98 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: for someone cute. Maybe you'd make eye contact, you'd play 99 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 2: with your hair, you'd sense if there's any connection, any engagement, 100 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: maybe give a cheeky smile. You'd start telling your friends 101 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: you need to move closer. Maybe you do a strategic 102 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: trip to the bar ever those days to check if 103 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: they're looking. It's a dance and there's warm up. So 104 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: the way that that would translate to Instagram is first 105 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: you click follow. Maybe a few days later you like 106 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: one of their Instagram grid pictures. If they're uploading stories, 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: maybe intermittently you like one one day, you don't the next, 108 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: and eventually you reply to a story and just gauge 109 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: if there's any connection there. Again, you want to go 110 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: in with something brief, one or two lines, not an 111 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 2: essay about how much you're obsessed with them. From their 112 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: feet and what a day? Yeah, yeah, I like it. 113 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: Good good advice. 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: The DM it's an untapped place today and I have 115 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,039 Speaker 1: a confession to make. Actually, when one of my friends 116 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: breaks up with someone, I always go through their feet 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: and see if they have deleted the X. It's just 118 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: a thing I like to do. 119 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: It is now an entirely new predicament that you have 120 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: to think about. I've just broken up with this someone. 121 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: How do I then have to tend to my digital life? 122 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: Yes? I had this years ago. 123 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: It was you know, my DM sorry, my profile picture 124 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: was me and my ex and I knew that my 125 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: birthday was a few months away and in my head 126 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: this was. 127 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: Facebook days yep. 128 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: So it's like people are going to be coming to 129 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: my wall and writing happy birthday on my wall? 130 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: And what do I do about the photo? Yes? Did 131 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: you change it? A few days before? I did change it. 132 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: I like it. 133 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 2: But it's also part of the you know, the healing process. 134 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: You have to let go of those digital momentos. 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then block that person so you never definitely, 136 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: well if it hasn't been a happy ending. Now. There 137 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: was another stat that I thought was really interesting and 138 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: well perhaps concerning one in three Aussies feel online dating 139 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: is unsafe. Talk to us about this. 140 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, so the survey did show that seventy three percent 141 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 2: of Aussies think users aren't necessarily being honest about who 142 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: they are or what their intentions are. For example, people 143 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: might pose as single but realistically be in relationships. Just 144 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: under half of aussi's are also worried about being scammed 145 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: for money, which is a shame. There was also a 146 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: lot of recognition in the survey about how dating apps 147 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: do put you in more control. You can date on 148 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: your own terms, at home, even in your pajamas, which 149 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: is amazing, all of that before meeting in person once 150 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: you do feel ready. 151 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: So how can we feel safe for anyone? 152 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: Who? 153 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean? We all read the headlines, don't we about 154 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: the scammers and turning up to locations and being met 155 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: with not who you think you're going to be met with. 156 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: How can we feel safe when we date online? 157 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: So the apps do want you to connect in a 158 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: safe and fun way and they are constantly adding safety features. 159 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 2: So from the survey, Tinder is the most popular dating 160 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: app to meet your partner. Recently, they've introduced ID and 161 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: photo and ID verification, so basically you scan your driver's 162 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: license or your passport and once that's verified, you get 163 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 2: a little blue tick on your profile. Once you've gone 164 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: through that process, you can then nominate to only see 165 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: other users who've done the same, so instantly you feel 166 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: so much more reassured about what's Seventy three percent of 167 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: Aussies are worried about that. You know who you're connecting 168 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: with is who they are. You can also there are 169 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 2: amazing features to block and report people if you feel unsafe. 170 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 2: You can block existing contacts in your phone so that 171 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: you're not seeing your ex's or your bosses, and you 172 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: can stay in the app for as long as possible 173 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 2: because you can both chat and video call through the app. 174 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: You can also on Tinder share your date plans with 175 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: your friends and family so they know the name of 176 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 2: your match, where you're meeting, and what time and they 177 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: can check up on you. 178 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really important, isn't it. Tell your friends, share 179 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: the share the info, and hopefully you have a good date. Sarah, 180 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on, help you shank you friends. 181 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: If you want more tidbits about online dating or anything 182 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: else related to our sex census, I will leave a 183 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: link to it in the show notes. If you enjoyed 184 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: this chat, tell us rate and review this episode. It 185 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: was a bit different for us. I know we'll subscribe 186 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: to this podcast. 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