1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fear and Greed Q and A where we 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: ask and answer questions about business, investing, economics, politics and more. 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm Michael Thompson, and good morning, Sean Aylmer. 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: Good morning, Michael, Sean. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: I enjoy these Sunday shows because it's a chance for 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: us to talk about some other things as well. And 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: this week coming up this week, we've got the Winter 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Olympics about to start in Italy, and it got me 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: thinking about some of the big sporting events that we 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: have kind of I was going to say participated in, 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: but I'm going to assure you there's been no participation 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: from this side, but but covered from a media perspective, right, 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 1: Because you've done some you've done some big ones. Do 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: you have a favorite that you that you covered in 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: your many many years as a many many many many 16 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: decades as a journalist. 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the one I like. I mean, you've 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: actually done a lot more of this than me, because 19 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 3: you've covered Olympics, and I mean what I did so 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: I as a business reporter and I was New York 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 3: based and occasionally you would write stuff about different tournaments 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: and one of my favorites was the US Open and 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: USA tennis tournament that was magnificent Flushing Meadows going out there, 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: what idea you're a minno. Like in the world of 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: economics reporting in Australia at the Financial Review, you weren't 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: a minnow. When you go to one of those organizations, 27 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 3: you are a minno and you have to follow the 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: rules and it's bureaucratic and it's tough. But to see 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: these superstar plays and I remember Layton Hewitt watching Laighton 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: Hewett play and just thinking, Wow, this is what it's about. 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: I need to be a sports writer. But I think 32 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: your experience in the Olympics, because you've spoken about this, 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: is quite phenomenal. 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: Can I before we go on from there? 35 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: This is going to sound creepy, But the other day 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 1: I was reading an article written in about two thousand 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: and four or so. 38 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: It was an interview with Fred Stolly, the. 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: Fiery Fred Yeah, And it was written by a brilliant 40 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,679 Speaker 1: up and coming young reporter by the name of one 41 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: sewn Aylmer from about twenty something years ago. And it 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: was just fascinating to see and to kind of hear 43 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: his take on because that was talking about the US 44 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Open and his son had just what. 45 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: I remember that interview quite well. And Sand and Stolly 46 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: was the son Fred Stolly was a great tennis player. 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: Sand was a very good tennis player, but a doubles player. 48 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: And what he said really frustrated him was that he 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 3: had to work were a Sandon, He's a doubles player 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 3: and he has never really worked in his life because 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: there was so much money in it. And this was 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: two thousand and four, but that was actually the open 53 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 3: that I was covering, And yeah, it was fascinating to 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: hear Fred's take on his son Sand and basically. 55 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a but no, I just it was a 56 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: great I don't know, I have no idea how I 57 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: stumbled upon this story. 58 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no idea. All of a sudden I like reading, 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, this is great. Who wrote this? 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Oh? 61 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: I know that guy? My doctor? Remember in two hours? 62 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: So the Olympics, So twenty twelve, the London Olympics was fantastic. 63 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: So I was. 64 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: I was working in radio at the time, and the 65 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: network that I was working for had the broadcast rights 66 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: because obviously the Olympics one of those sports where, probably 67 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: more than almost any other, the rights are so closely 68 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: and tightly controlled that that and the accreditation process is 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: so so tough for anyone else trying to trying to 70 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: get in, but if you are a rights holder, the 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: access that you have to everything is quite remarkable. And 72 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: so we were the radio broadcaster for Australia alongside the ABC, 73 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: and so we're based inside the IBC, the International Broadcast Center, 74 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: which is just the most incredible place to cover a 75 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: majorusing event like the like the Olympics, because you have 76 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: every big broadcaster from everywhere in the world with these 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: incredible setups right and it's a custom built building with 78 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: custom built studios everywhere, and you can just stroll out 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: and you're just walking past gold medalists in the hall, 80 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: just people just cruising around with kind of Team USA 81 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: jackets on and gold medals hanging around their necks, coming 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: in and out for different interviews and all of the 83 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: celebrity spotting. And I remember at one point there was 84 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: this buzz and we kind of look over the balcony 85 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: and there's the royals walking through, kind of Prince Prince 86 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: William and Prince Harry back in the days when they 87 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: were talking. We're cruising through. But it was just amazing 88 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: to be able to be there for part of that. 89 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: And I know this is getting very radio specific, but 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: when there was a team of say six broadcasters and 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: they were covering pretty much every sport between them and 92 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: diving them up, and so all of a sudden you 93 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: have people like Ray Hadley that I was I was 94 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: working with obviously, but then Gordon bray Right, an incredible 95 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: rugby caller, can call anything as it happens. If you've 96 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: never heard him call the sailing like that, he gives 97 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: it so much passion and so much excitement. And to 98 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: go from kind of calling the sailing to calling the 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: archery to calling kind of some of the other athletics 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: events and just going one to the other to the other, 101 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: and the ability of radio then to kind of convey 102 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: what is happening on one side of the world to 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: home and the power of a really good sports broadcaster 104 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: like Ray Hadley, like Gordon Ray, like Matt Hill who 105 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: does the Melbourne Cup calls, as well as working with 106 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: this Bruce Yeah. Yeah, And it was just amazing to 107 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: see that and to see some of those athletes coming 108 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: in and there's a tremendous sense of pride as well 109 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: when you're when you're doing it, even though you're not 110 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: even actually competed, but you feel like so. There is 111 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: so much much patriotism as well in those places, because 112 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: everyone is backing their athletes and everyone's and when a 113 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: gold medalist from a particular country, from your country walks 114 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: into the studio, there is just this this really strong 115 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: sense that hey, you have done something fantastic for our country, 116 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: and it is an amazing thing to get to cover. 117 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: The security is just intense. 118 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: Though it's like the oh, yeah, just a couple of 119 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: things you reminded me of. So I covered the Atlantic 120 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 3: Games in nineteen ninety six. That's a long time ago. 121 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: I get that. But what I remember is just walking 122 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: around Atlanta and people walking around the streets with gold 123 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: medals around the next Yeah, so people doing shopping in 124 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: a shopping center and they've got a gold medal on. 125 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: I thought that was really cool. The other thing is 126 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 3: I had a great friend who I think was CBS, 127 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: an American broadcast or I think its NBC or CBS. 128 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: I think with CBS. She was out here for the 129 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: two thousand Olympics, and my great memory of that, I mean, 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: they work, you work incredibly hard when you're covering Olympics, right, 131 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: so you're up from six till ten. And she said 132 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: the whole CBS team would at ten o'clock at night 133 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: gather for a drink having spent fourteen hours, sixteen hours 134 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: watch h gen Roy because they did that great show 135 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: at the end of it, and literally everyone in the 136 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: CBS team would sit that, they'd turn it up loud, 137 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: they'd laugh their heads off at hates gen Roy taking 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 3: the mickey out of them, because Hate gen Roy kind 139 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: of take the mickey out of the commentators rather than 140 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: sports people. And she said that was just that that's 141 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: what they did for two weeks. Loved it. 142 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they are such incredibly long days, but it 143 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: is the most it is. Yeah, six am till ten 144 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: pm every day for a couple of weeks, and it 145 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: is just the greatest experience from a media perspective. And 146 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: even it's funny whenever you are even just watching the 147 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: Olympics at home, it's amazing how quickly become an expert 148 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: in all of these things, and all of a sudden 149 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: for this kind of two weeks. Whenever there's an Olympics on, 150 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: whether it is this summer or the Winter Games, it 151 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: is such a unifying thing that all of a sudden, 152 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: you've got something to talk to people about at work. 153 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: It brings everyone together. I love it anyway. A fair 154 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: bit of navel gazing in all of that, but it's 155 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: a nice little stroll down memory lane. And I'm excited 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: for the Winter Olympics. Not as excited as I get 157 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: for the Summer Games. It's a little bit more removed 158 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: from us. But oh my god, just the speed of 159 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: these so many of the events are quite incredible. 160 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you very much, Sean. 161 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: Thanks Michael. 162 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: If you've got something that you would like to know, 163 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: and it can be obscure, right it could. We've demonstrated 164 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: that we have no limits on what we will talk about, 165 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: then send it on through via the website Fearangreed, dot com, 166 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: dot are You, or jump onto, LinkedIn or. 167 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: Instagram are the best ways to get in touch with us. 168 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: And Michael Thompson loves Fear and Greed