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Speaker 2: Sharry Good Evening.
Speaker 1: Well, we've only got two weeks left until the Christmas break.
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Speaker 1: single one coming up tonight. Backlash over an Australia Day
Speaker 1: pub boycott as punters reject being bullied by corporates the
Speaker 1: Wok company tonight issuing an apology, Warren Mundine would join
Speaker 1: Me live. Also on the show, the author of Laptop
Speaker 1: from Hell, Miranda Devine, responds to Joe Biden's pardon of
Speaker 1: his son Hunter.
Speaker 2: That exclusive coming.
Speaker 1: Up, and the rift between alber Easy and Tanya Plibasek.
Speaker 1: Labor insider Cameron Milner spills the beans. But first let's
Speaker 1: go to the major backlash today to the news that
Speaker 1: two hundred pubs across the country threatened to ban Australia
Speaker 1: Day celebrations. The owners the private equity firm based in
Speaker 1: Asia claimed our National Day caused sadness and hurt. Well,
Speaker 1: this was outrageous. You don't boycott our National Day. It's
Speaker 1: the fastest way ever to kill off business and the
Speaker 1: company had to learn this the hard way when they
Speaker 1: were forced to backtrack this evening and issue a groveling
Speaker 1: apology to customers, and their backflip came after premiers and
Speaker 1: politicians blasted their woke decision.
Speaker 3: Countries need national days, they genuinely need them. We need
Speaker 3: a sense of common purpose. I don't think it's what
Speaker 3: the majority of people in the state or the country
Speaker 3: agree with. And I also think that there has to
Speaker 3: be a sense of national occasions.
Speaker 4: I've participated in many Australian Day events over decades, and
Speaker 4: I planned to continue into the years ahead.
Speaker 5: From the government's perspective, it's our national day and the
Speaker 5: day we come together.
Speaker 6: We had the boys.
Speaker 7: It was absolutely resoundingly defeated, and a lot of that
Speaker 7: defeat was Drivenigenous astray and saying absolutely we don't want
Speaker 7: to be treated differently. And they celebrate Australia Day, many
Speaker 7: of them in the same sort of way as we
Speaker 7: as non Indigenous Australians.
Speaker 1: And many commentators said the only way to react to
Speaker 1: this proposed man was to boycott the pubs.
Speaker 8: Avoid them like the plague.
Speaker 9: We have a stack of hotels right across the country
Speaker 9: wanting to be part of Australia Day.
Speaker 4: Go to them instead.
Speaker 10: The pubs owned by this group should become a patron
Speaker 10: free z oone.
Speaker 5: There are plenty other pubs that you can go and
Speaker 5: buy a beer at on Australia if these pubs don't
Speaker 5: want to celebrate Australia.
Speaker 1: And Indigenous Australians weren't happy about this either. Warren Mundine
Speaker 1: will be on My show tonight, while an Indigenous elder
Speaker 1: Ian hunter said that here to his family and friends
Speaker 1: in remote communities like to celebrate Australia Day.
Speaker 2: They have barbecues.
Speaker 1: He said it's the urban lefties, the white people that
Speaker 1: are pushing for this and he called it condescending.
Speaker 2: In fact, there was so much.
Speaker 1: Backlash, mostly from punters, that the Australia Venue Co by
Speaker 1: this evening had apologized and reversed their decision.
Speaker 2: Releasing a statement.
Speaker 1: The company said, we sincerely regret that our purpose is
Speaker 1: to reinforce community in our venues, not divide it. It
Speaker 1: is not for us to tell anyone whether or how
Speaker 1: to celebrate Australia Day. They said, whether you choose to
Speaker 1: celebrate Australia Day or not, everyone is welcome in our
Speaker 1: pubs always. Well, they've been forced to backtrack, but there's
Speaker 1: no question their original boycott was a deliberate decision, and
Speaker 1: Chris Kenny pointed out earlier all the other days that
Speaker 1: this company boasts about celebrating. In a clear case of
Speaker 1: virtue signaling.
Speaker 11: You can see that Australian venue company does like to
Speaker 11: celebrate some days. There's Big Gay Day they celebrate that.
Speaker 11: It's a picture there too for Plant a Tree Day.
Speaker 11: Also they're trumpeting how they celebrate where at Purple Day
Speaker 11: and a similar day they have Lgbtqia Plus Day. There's
Speaker 11: also Nadock Week celebrated for Indigenous Australians, of course, and
Speaker 11: there's International Women's Day. They celebrate all these days and
Speaker 11: they are all good days, to be sure, But apparently
Speaker 11: there are two hundred pubs at bars in Australia now
Speaker 11: who have time for all of those days, but no
Speaker 11: time for our National Day.
Speaker 1: Well said, and this company may have reversed their ban,
Speaker 1: but the damage has been done. When Australians are looking
Speaker 1: for somewhere to celebrate on January twenty six, they'll likely
Speaker 1: avoid these.
Speaker 2: Two hundred venues.
Speaker 1: And the company owns fifty seven pubs in Victoria, ten
Speaker 1: in New South Wales, twenty in South Australia, ninety in Queensland.
Speaker 2: The list goes on but in New.
Speaker 1: South Wales two of their biggest ones are bungaloweight and
Speaker 1: Cargo in Sydney. In Brisbane there's the Port Office Hotel
Speaker 1: in the Regatta Hotel in Melbourne, there's the Esplanade Hotel
Speaker 1: in Prince of Wales and Sint Kilda, the Duke of
Speaker 1: Wellington and Garden State Hotel in Melbourne. And if you
Speaker 1: want the full list, it's up on our Sky News website.
Speaker 2: But this is part of.
Speaker 1: A trend now of corporates trying to cancel our national Day.
Speaker 1: It follows wool Words refusing to sell Australia Day merchandise
Speaker 1: earlier this year and as you'll recall, about eighty councils
Speaker 1: change the date of Australia Day citizenship ceremonies. Now, Australia
Speaker 1: Day isn't about denying our history, what's and all.
Speaker 2: It's about being grateful for the country we live in.
Speaker 1: But there's this trend, pushed by activist groups and embraced
Speaker 1: by Corporate Australia, of trying to turn our national Day
Speaker 1: and our Australian flag and everything it stands for into.
Speaker 2: A symbol of shame.
Speaker 1: They're trying to make Australians feel guilty about celebrating our country.
Speaker 1: They're trying to bully us into being ashamed of our
Speaker 1: national day, and the majority of Australians don't want to
Speaker 1: change the date.
Speaker 2: An IPA poll early this year.
Speaker 1: Showed sixty three percent one to keep Australia Day on
Speaker 1: January twenty six. I personally always loved Australia Day, and
Speaker 1: don't we all have memories dating back decades of how
Speaker 1: we spent this one public holiday. Beach barbecue, friends, family,
Speaker 1: cricket in the backyard and on TV, hot swims, rolling thunderstorms,
Speaker 1: traditions passed down from one generation to the next.
Speaker 2: I love this sunburnt country.
Speaker 1: As Dorothy mckeli said, should be an Australia Day, a
Speaker 1: single day when we can celebrate this great nation of
Speaker 1: ours and how lucky we are to live here. But
Speaker 1: having said that, I do have to admit that this
Speaker 1: Australia Day will be heart Our country is not its
Speaker 1: best self under the Albanese government, from the deepening cost
Speaker 1: of living crisis to the despicable rise in antisemitism. Australia
Speaker 1: at the end of twenty twenty four is sometimes not
Speaker 1: a country I recognize it seems everything Albanez he does
Speaker 1: as Prime Minister is only making life worse for Australians.
Speaker 1: We're pushing back at his radical changes and his misinformation
Speaker 1: laws thankfully were voted down, but much of his green
Speaker 1: left agenda is being rolled out and everyone is talking
Speaker 1: about it. Almost every person I speak to says that
Speaker 1: this is the worst government and the worst prime minister
Speaker 1: in Australia's history.
Speaker 2: Let's face it, our.
Speaker 1: Beautiful country is not what it was just a few
Speaker 1: short years ago, and not what it can be with
Speaker 1: proper leadership restored. I love this country, but it can
Speaker 1: be better. And so this Australia Day in early twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five will be bittersweet. We'll celebrate all that we have,
Speaker 1: but we have to vow to fight to protect our
Speaker 1: country from those who seek to undermine our way of
Speaker 1: life and destroy our social cohesion, those activists who found
Speaker 1: a friend in of all people, the Prime Minister now
Speaker 1: Anthony Albinezi, is denying a rift with Tanya Pleibisek after
Speaker 1: he killed off her environmental laws. But this saga is
Speaker 1: a fascinating insight into how the Prime Minister does business,
Speaker 1: His lies and obfuscation. WA Premier Roger Cook said that
Speaker 1: he spoke to Albanzi on Tuesday and received an assurance
Speaker 1: that these laws would be on ice.
Speaker 12: We were concerned in relation to some of the elements
Speaker 12: of the nature positive laws and we made that position
Speaker 12: very clear. Are very pleased to have received assurances from
Speaker 12: the highest levels of government that those laws will not
Speaker 12: be going ahead in their current form this week.
Speaker 1: So the WA Premier saying pretty clearly there for everyone
Speaker 1: to see out a press conference that albin Ezi agreed
Speaker 1: to put these laws on ice. The understanding is that
Speaker 1: they would have been problematic politically at both the state
Speaker 1: and federal level in WA. So Albinizi made this decision
Speaker 1: apparently without consulting the Minister in charge, Tanya Plibasek, who'd
Speaker 1: been negotiating in good faith with the Greens. Albinizi tried
Speaker 1: to deny all of this. Haven't Thirty host Sarah Ferguson
Speaker 1: It pushed him repeatedly, as she does in her persistent way.
Speaker 4: You killed the environmental laws promised the last election in
Speaker 4: order to as we understand it, protects seats in Western Australia.
Speaker 4: Was that you just clearing the decks for an election.
Speaker 13: No, well that's not right.
Speaker 9: Did the legislation remain so stuck in the Senate we
Speaker 9: didn't have the majority for it, Sarah, there's.
Speaker 4: A brain you killed the negotiations. So what did you
Speaker 4: say when the Premier of Western Australia rang you to
Speaker 4: or you spoke to the Premier of Western Australia to
Speaker 4: talk about that bill and why it should be held up?
Speaker 9: I spoke to the Premier of WA about my visit
Speaker 9: to WA next week.
Speaker 4: You didn't talk about the bill.
Speaker 2: That was the BASI.
Speaker 9: Well, I don't give all the details of my private
Speaker 9: discussions for premiers.
Speaker 4: In talking about the bill? What did you say? Did
Speaker 4: you agree with him that it was not the right
Speaker 4: moment for that bill to be concluded? No?
Speaker 9: I informed him that we didn't have the numbers.
Speaker 2: So how did.
Speaker 4: The Premier of Western Australia reached the conclusion that he
Speaker 4: had been instrumental in stopping that bill being resolved this week?
Speaker 9: That's a question for the premiere. He's a good friend
Speaker 9: of mine.
Speaker 2: And that went on.
Speaker 1: So Albanize reluctantly admitted there that he had spoken to
Speaker 1: Roger Cook about this, but denied it was the reason
Speaker 1: he killed off the deal. He even denied that the
Speaker 1: laws were permanently done and dusted again. Plivosk, the Minister
Speaker 1: in charge, was reportedly never brought into this decision.
Speaker 2: She did a deal with the.
Speaker 1: Greens and that Albanezi in a meeting that didn't include her,
Speaker 1: that included Katie Gallagher, and the Greens killed it off.
Speaker 1: Now Albanezi has presented different versions of events of what happened.
Speaker 1: He even tried to claim a deal was never struck
Speaker 1: or at least not with him.
Speaker 5: Have a look on these environment laws. Clearly a deal
Speaker 5: was either close or, according to the Greens, was done.
Speaker 5: They reckon you did.
Speaker 9: I say that we hadn't And they don't say that David.
Speaker 9: There is no one in the Green says that I.
Speaker 1: Agreed to it. And David Spears said he'd done a
Speaker 1: draft agreement or he'd seen a draft agreement between Plibasak
Speaker 1: and the Greens. Albanezi denied it again or said it
Speaker 1: wasn't with him.
Speaker 9: There's no draft agreement to me, and what we did
Speaker 9: was make.
Speaker 5: Sure saying that letter doesn't exist.
Speaker 9: Well, no letter to me exists. I was negotiating across
Speaker 9: the parliament and that's how you have to do it.
Speaker 9: You can't have forty five sets of negotiations.
Speaker 5: But a letter from the minister to the Greens that
Speaker 5: you're saying you weren't aware.
Speaker 9: Of that, well, that wasn't a letter from me.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is splitting hats. She's his cabinet minister.
Speaker 1: There was clearly an agreement between Plebisak on behalf of
Speaker 1: the Albenezy government and the Greens. But how can anyone
Speaker 1: believe anything this bloke says.
Speaker 2: You've just seen how we twists and turns.
Speaker 1: Albanezi has rejected suggestions that he was treating Tania Pilibisect
Speaker 1: poorly as minister.
Speaker 5: When you told them there was no deal on this
Speaker 5: it was you adambout Sarah Hanson young but not in
Speaker 5: Katy Gallagher Okay, but not Tania Plibisik the minister.
Speaker 9: Why not because we had forty five pieces of legislation.
Speaker 5: David, I've had some of your caucus colleagues expressed to
Speaker 5: me a view that Tanya Plibisik was unnecessarily treated badly.
Speaker 1: So Plibisek had done a deal and alban Easy and
Speaker 1: his mate Katie Gallagher undid it. So where does this
Speaker 1: leave Tanya Plibisek and her authority? This is disastrous disunity
Speaker 1: at the highest levels of the alban Ezy government, leaking
Speaker 1: going on to the ABC ahead of an interview with
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister from his own colleagues, and now he's
Speaker 1: facing ongoing questions about a rift.
Speaker 3: And this is how are things between you and Chania Pilibasek,
Speaker 3: now though, because there's there's still confusion from some over
Speaker 3: what happened here in talk of an internal feud, can
Speaker 3: you categorically deny that.
Speaker 9: Absolutely, there's still some It's extraordinary that the media want
Speaker 9: to concentrate on what didn't happen as opposed to what
Speaker 9: did happen.
Speaker 1: Always criticizing the media, but the problems extend to other
Speaker 1: areas as well. There's reports today that tensions are flaring
Speaker 1: between the pair between Albanzi and plibisk over the controversial
Speaker 1: issue of salmon farming in Tasmania. And I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk about that with Joe gilder Brand and Steve Price
Speaker 1: in a moment. But clearly on the environment laws there
Speaker 1: was a deal that Albanzi scuffe it. Perhaps it didn't
Speaker 1: bother him that he'd step all over Plibisek. They've been
Speaker 1: political rivals for years, but Tanya Plibisek is reportedly pretty
Speaker 1: angry about how this unfolded. And meanwhile, the sense voters
Speaker 1: have is that they're not being told the truth. I mean,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it have been better for alben Ezi to say,
Speaker 1: yep Wa was unhappy about these law it was going
Speaker 1: to cost us votes at the next election, so we
Speaker 1: dump them. Isn't it better for him to be honest
Speaker 1: with Australians instead of muddling up excuses and getting caught
Speaker 1: out trying to twist the truth because voters are smart,
Speaker 1: certainly smarter than alban easy, that's for sure, and we
Speaker 1: can see easily through his shenanigans. All Right, a big
Speaker 1: show coming up. I've got New York Post columnist Miranda
Speaker 1: Devine joining me to discuss Joe Biden's stunning backflip on
Speaker 1: his decision to pardon his son Cameron Milner, Warren Mundine,
Speaker 1: Sarah Henderson.
Speaker 2: But first, let's.
Speaker 1: Bring in our Sky News host Steve Price and contributor
Speaker 1: Joe Hildebrandt.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 1: Before we get to you, Joe trying to defend Albo
Speaker 1: Steve Price, we are seeing repeated signs here of disunity
Speaker 1: at the very top of the alban Easy government, not
Speaker 1: just the rift between alban Ezi and Antonia Plebisak, but
Speaker 1: colleagues who are really concerned about how he treated her,
Speaker 1: a senior woman in the Albanese government.
Speaker 14: Yeah, it resembles the shambles, doesn't it. And when you
Speaker 14: put those clips together as you have tonight, I mean
Speaker 14: you can just see Anthony Albanesi dodging and weaving. It
Speaker 14: can be very interesting to see how Joe defends him tonight.
Speaker 14: But I mean you've got to go all the way
Speaker 14: back to when they won the election. I mean, Tania
Speaker 14: Plubisec wanted to be Education minister, as I understand it,
Speaker 14: and Anthony Alberanzi threw her the handball she didn't want
Speaker 14: to receive, which was environment She didn't want to do
Speaker 14: that job. She was very unhappy about the job she
Speaker 14: was given. So it's no surprise that that's come to this.
Speaker 14: What is surprising though, is the fact that Anthony Albanezi
Speaker 14: would be so blunt about it that he would have
Speaker 14: Katie Gallagher in the meeting. He's got Bant there, he's
Speaker 14: got other Green MPs. I would say that in the past.
Speaker 14: I'll be interested in your view on the Sharin. In
Speaker 14: the past, a minister, cabinet minister treated that badly would
Speaker 14: put their hand up and say, I'm going to jump
Speaker 14: out of this job. I'll go to the back bench. Thanks,
Speaker 14: and I'll see you down the track.
Speaker 2: Joe, what do you think.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure a cabinet minister would do that so publicly.
Speaker 13: They knife the leader in the background.
Speaker 14: I've done it in the past.
Speaker 1: But this is an undeniable not just rift but leaking
Speaker 1: as well against the Prime minister.
Speaker 13: Yeah, look, I think it's certainly Steve is right that
Speaker 13: Tanya plud Sect was expecting to continue in the education portfolio,
Speaker 13: in so much as anyone expected anything. But the Prime
Speaker 13: Minister's job is to allocate portfolios in the cabinet, and
Speaker 13: that is the Prime Minister's prerogative, so he's allowed to
Speaker 13: give anyone whatever jobs he wants in terms of the
Speaker 13: actual decision making, and again putting aside the sort of
Speaker 13: personal rift or whatever that people seem to be obsessed with.
Speaker 13: Are you suggesting or is there a suggestion that the
Speaker 13: PM should have stuck with the nature positive laws done
Speaker 13: with the green where a deal has been done with
Speaker 13: the Greens. That could potend to.
Speaker 2: The suggestion is he hasn't been a frunt about it.
Speaker 1: And besides, these controversial laws were laws that he promised
Speaker 1: he would introduce before the elections.
Speaker 13: Right, that's right, and in the and in the cold
Speaker 13: light of day once he's actually got his hands from
Speaker 13: the range.
Speaker 15: It has been upfront about that.
Speaker 1: But he hasn't he said no, we're still going to
Speaker 1: introduce them next year. He's not even saying that they're there.
Speaker 13: Have There have been three three issues. And again I
Speaker 13: like Daniel Pipers a lot as well as you say,
Speaker 13: I like everybody. But there was the mcfillmy's gold mine
Speaker 13: fast where this blue band don't exist.
Speaker 15: We do this every one week.
Speaker 13: There was there was a there was a literal one
Speaker 13: billion dollar gold mine where a submission about a blue
Speaker 13: banded bee and there's a dreaming of that and a
Speaker 13: dreaming of that bee that the actual local official Aboriginal
Speaker 13: elders say is bogus, is bollis.
Speaker 2: Or her decisions?
Speaker 1: Can I just say they are both from the radical
Speaker 1: left faction.
Speaker 2: Tania plab second an.
Speaker 1: Easy and leadership governing from the center. State's gardening from this.
Speaker 14: He's not even governing at all, John.
Speaker 2: Good Gardening at all.
Speaker 1: He's not not just not from the center, he's not
Speaker 1: governing at all.
Speaker 13: But Tanyli, you would rather deal with the Greens goast.
Speaker 1: No one said that Joe tiny Plibise remains a future
Speaker 1: leadership threat to alban Easy and that's why he's so
Speaker 1: concerned about her and why he put her in this
Speaker 1: portfolio in the first place, and potentially why she's causing
Speaker 1: him so many problems.
Speaker 2: Let's turn to the budget now.
Speaker 1: We're looking at fresh budget forecasts from economist Chris Richardson
Speaker 1: and have a look at what he said.
Speaker 2: He said that since being.
Speaker 1: Elected, the government has made decisions that have added one
Speaker 1: hundred and four billion dollars to spending while also raising
Speaker 1: taxes by forty four billion dollars for a net worsening
Speaker 1: of the budget bottom line by six see billion dollars. Steve,
Speaker 1: isn't this irresponsible spending in an inflation crisis?
Speaker 15: Well, of course it is.
Speaker 14: I mean, and he may be copying Tim Pallas in Victoria,
Speaker 14: because all they do down here is also try and
Speaker 14: spend their way out of trouble. I mean, they've made
Speaker 14: so many promises. I mean, obviously the hex deebt promise
Speaker 14: is going to be very expensive. Jim Chalmers got lucky,
Speaker 14: he got two surpluses and now the economics have caught
Speaker 14: up with him and as they head toward the election
Speaker 14: the time he couldn't be any worse. The debt is soaring.
Speaker 14: Are you going to get budget deficits are The Australian
Speaker 14: reported last week there was a forty two billion dollar
Speaker 14: turnaround to the worst downwards and so now they're going
Speaker 14: to have to fight an election. They're going to have
Speaker 14: to promise more things that they have to go. If
Speaker 14: they go, you know, in the first half of next year,
Speaker 14: they're going to have to come out after the Christmas
Speaker 14: break and promise more spending. That's the only way they
Speaker 14: think they're going to get re elected. Make expensive promises
Speaker 14: and hope you suck people in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that is going to be a made
Speaker 1: worry pre election spending announcements.
Speaker 2: But Joe, I want to get your prediction.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of debate over whether or not there's
Speaker 1: going to be another budget.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 13: Look, it's a hard one. I think the most important
Speaker 13: thing they will be looking at is not the budget.
Speaker 13: It's whether or not there is a likelihood of a
Speaker 13: rate cart, So that will determine whether or not they
Speaker 13: go for an election. If they think they can just
Speaker 13: squeeze out and going to happen before an election, that's right.
Speaker 13: So if it looks like that, if it looks like
Speaker 13: there's going to be no chance of a rate card,
Speaker 13: they will probably go early because they will not want
Speaker 13: to be in the middle of a campaign with people
Speaker 13: hoping for or expecting a rate cut and not getting one,
Speaker 13: So you would go earlier.
Speaker 1: So he might not return to parliament in that scenario.
Speaker 13: I think the budget is this I think yea possibly.
Speaker 13: I think the budget is a secondary consideration. And while
Speaker 13: I certainly understand that, you know, people who like to
Speaker 13: pour over these figures and have an understanding of economics
Speaker 13: know what the implication of a budget surplus or deficit
Speaker 13: is for the economy. Most people simply think, what's in
Speaker 13: it for me? What am I getting out of it? Clearly,
Speaker 13: the government has spent more than a lot of people
Speaker 13: would like, but it's made that decision deliberately because it
Speaker 13: was not prepared to accept you know, people sort of
Speaker 13: falling through the cracks during what has been a much
Speaker 13: longer cost of living crisis than and more severe I
Speaker 13: think than most people expected.
Speaker 1: I think the spending is in a range of areas,
Speaker 1: not just the cost of living crisis. But let's keep
Speaker 1: moving and have a look at the warnings we're now
Speaker 1: getting about blackouts, and not just for New South Wales either,
Speaker 1: but across the country. The Daily Telegraph reporting that without
Speaker 1: urgent action, will all be paying more for power even
Speaker 1: when it's not working. I mean, Steve Price, if there
Speaker 1: are blackouts or the risk of it, or if yet
Speaker 1: again we're told to limit our power use over the
Speaker 1: summer months and we're just starting summer now. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: this has been gross mishandling of our energy system by
Speaker 1: both state and federal governments.
Speaker 14: Can you imagine being in a country as rich in
Speaker 14: energy as we are and having a Premier Tellia last
Speaker 14: week to turn your dishwasher often, don't put the air
Speaker 14: conditioner on full ball because you might force a blackout.
Speaker 14: In New South Wales, extraordinary, it wasn't even hot. It
Speaker 14: got to thirty three or thirty four degrees. It wasn't
Speaker 14: even like a forty degree day. I mean, it's just
Speaker 14: unbelievable that we're in this position and it's going to
Speaker 14: get worse. And then I just can't believe Chris Bowen
Speaker 14: dancing around the country. You know, I was celebrating the
Speaker 14: fact that he's going to be the renewables king when
Speaker 14: the rest of the country might have blackouts. I mean,
Speaker 14: Joe talks about an early election. Well, they might be
Speaker 14: having an early election in the middle of say, you know, March,
Speaker 14: when it's forty really is forty degrees in western Sydney
Speaker 14: and people can't turn their air conditioners on. That's going
Speaker 14: to be That's going to go down well in an
Speaker 14: election campaign, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very good point. I mean, you think
Speaker 1: about Chris Bowen. There are so many ministers in the
Speaker 1: Albanezi government who would be competing for the title of
Speaker 1: the worst most unpopular minister. Is it Panny Wong, is
Speaker 1: it Chris Bowen, is it Tony Berg? I mean, you've
Speaker 1: never met a less likable government.
Speaker 13: There's some very likable people in the government. If you
Speaker 13: just get to know them, Sharry.
Speaker 15: I'll introduce you to them.
Speaker 13: But Manimal, there's I think certainly it is not the
Speaker 13: time to be crowing about climate change and renewables at
Speaker 13: a time when people cannot afford to pay their power
Speaker 13: bills or even turn on their appliances in the middle
Speaker 13: of a heatwave. Ironically, of course, the same people who
Speaker 13: were saying that this renewable stuff is all crazy, the
Speaker 13: same people saying there's going to be record hot days
Speaker 13: in March, like there were record hot days in November.
Speaker 13: So maybe there's a little bit of something to this
Speaker 13: climate change thing. But the truth is it's spending omni shambles.
Speaker 13: It's been not hot days at all.
Speaker 3: There are two.
Speaker 13: There are two, there are two.
Speaker 5: Regid history of hot temperatures in Mate.
Speaker 13: Well, certainly it's been very hot in November.
Speaker 1: Dorothy mckeller earlier, as she said, we've always had a
Speaker 1: sign we.
Speaker 13: Have we have in God love it. But it is
Speaker 13: getting worse.
Speaker 14: But the at least it should be swamped in rain.
Speaker 13: Yesterday it was that's right, very amatic weather light.
Speaker 2: And then today it was all right, we've got to
Speaker 2: move and we've got to get to.
Speaker 13: Be part of the reason for the shortages because colified
Speaker 13: plants have not been maintained.
Speaker 1: We need more gas in this yes, and that hasn't
Speaker 1: been investment, deliberate decision to kill them off, Steve Price, Joe,
Speaker 1: you're making him shake.
Speaker 2: His head.
Speaker 1: Against it's the whole audience against you.
Speaker 15: Al but easy.
Speaker 13: Look at what is another repressed.
Speaker 2: Back up people? Thank you both for joining me again.
Speaker 1: All right, as we spoke about at the start of
Speaker 1: the show, the nation's second biggest pubs group, Australian Venue Co,
Speaker 1: has been forced to backflip on their boycott of Australia
Speaker 1: Day after a massive backlash from Australians. Let's bring it now,
Speaker 1: the director of the Indigenous Forum at the Center for
Speaker 1: Independent Studies worrying Mundane Warren.
Speaker 2: So good to see you, as always see you.
Speaker 1: How did you did you view this as the latest
Speaker 1: company to engage in virtue signaling.
Speaker 15: Look, it's probably the worst one because there's been a
Speaker 15: number of companies now have cropped a flogging over this issue,
Speaker 15: and they've seen it during the Voice campaign and so
Speaker 15: the last Australia Day in twenty twenty four and then
Speaker 15: they still come out, you know, a couple of months
Speaker 15: before the next Australia Day and come up with this
Speaker 15: dog of an idea. We're all getting sick and tired
Speaker 15: of this the Australian people are getting the sick and
Speaker 15: tired of it, and we're not going to cop it anymore.
Speaker 15: You know, we celebrate Australia Day not because of talking
Speaker 15: about invasions and we're talking about James Cooker alf of
Speaker 15: Philip and that we celebrate Australia Day because Australia is
Speaker 15: a great country and Australians are great people. All the
Speaker 15: migrants who come here worked hard. Some of them couldn't
Speaker 15: even speak English when they come here and they got out.
Speaker 15: They worked in the factories, they worked out on the roads.
Speaker 15: I worked with them across the country in regards to
Speaker 15: pipelines and power stations and all the incredible, amazing people
Speaker 15: who help build this country. And we've got people who
Speaker 15: have been here for over two hundred years and in
Speaker 15: those institutions we have in the rule of law and
Speaker 15: everything like that, and then of course the indigenous people
Speaker 15: you know, been here for thousands of years, and we've
Speaker 15: built this amazing country of multiculturalism, in a multi face,
Speaker 15: multi everything, multi It's just an amazing, amazing country and
Speaker 15: it's underfreat and as you said in your introduction tonight,
Speaker 15: you know, Shari, you know nowadays underfret and the time
Speaker 15: we need everyone to come together and to work together.
Speaker 15: We have a stupid company like the AVC coming out
Speaker 15: and saying we're not going to celebrate Australia and forcing
Speaker 15: their staff and not celebrate it. And I'm sure there's
Speaker 15: a lot of people who work for them who actually
Speaker 15: do want to celebrate it, but also putting them in
Speaker 15: a dangerous position. Couldn't you imagine if someone accidentally walks
Speaker 15: into one of their pubs, got is Australian t shirt
Speaker 15: on and his flag on his head, and he comes
Speaker 15: up and he gives the blake a cuddlet at the
Speaker 15: bar and says, Happy Australia Day. What's that staff member
Speaker 15: supposed to do?
Speaker 1: You know, this is ask you though you know you
Speaker 1: have very mainstream views and some of these issues you're rejecting, the.
Speaker 2: Push to change the date.
Speaker 1: What sort of backlash do you get from some Indigenous
Speaker 1: Australians but also from you know, the radical left.
Speaker 15: All the good news for me is in the Indigenous
Speaker 15: Australians is a lot of people support my views. You
Speaker 15: see them coming out you know today and yesterday's saying hey,
Speaker 15: you know, we want to support you know Australia. In fact,
Speaker 15: I was in Kannanara a few years ago when I
Speaker 15: got rung on the phone from an Australian TV show
Speaker 15: and they said, look what average will seek. And I said, well,
Speaker 15: I'm just passing the phone around here because I'm standing
Speaker 15: with twenty of them. I passed the phone around and
Speaker 15: everyone responded, we don't care. We just want to have
Speaker 15: a good day. We're going to celebrate and bring it together.
Speaker 15: And they were shocked. They said, here we are niece
Speaker 15: and Kimberley's Aboriginal people think that way. Well, a lot
Speaker 15: of Abriiginals people think that there were too many people
Speaker 15: listen to these radicals. But as you say, against this
Speaker 15: are non Abriugals, white.
Speaker 3: People and that.
Speaker 1: But do you think these activists are going to continue
Speaker 1: and continue to bully everyone on this issue until the
Speaker 1: date has changed.
Speaker 15: Oh, They're going to keep on bullying. There's no doubt
Speaker 15: about that. You know, I'm always reminded by Margaret Margaret
Speaker 15: factors in comments. You know, you don't win wars, win
Speaker 15: you win battles, and then the next morning you get
Speaker 15: up and fight the same battle again. But the difference
Speaker 15: now is Australia has caught a cop that in the past,
Speaker 15: but since the voice they saying, Okay, you're bastards. We
Speaker 15: we love this country, we love the migrants who come here,
Speaker 15: we love, love, love the British institutions we've got, we
Speaker 15: love the Indigenous people, and we all want to come
Speaker 15: together and work together and keep on this journey of
Speaker 15: building a strong, important and incredible nation. And they're sick
Speaker 15: and tired of all this division that people are pushing.
Speaker 15: And I'm glad to see that this company got a
Speaker 15: bit of a whack around the head and it almost
Speaker 15: come to come back to common sense. They didn't actually
Speaker 15: say that they were going to support Australia today. You know,
Speaker 15: you've got to be reading some of their medly mouth words.
Speaker 15: We're going to fight these people because we want to
Speaker 15: keep Australia as a great nation. Everyone can come together,
Speaker 15: no matter what their faith is and what their ethneticity is,
Speaker 15: and make this country a better country.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, said Warren Mundine. Thank you very much for
Speaker 2: joining me tonight. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 15: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Now still to Comet, Camera's Rumormel is working over time.
Speaker 1: Cameron Milner is going to join us with to spill
Speaker 1: the beans on the inside detail of the rift between
Speaker 1: Tanya Pliversek and Anthony Alberinezi, plus Joe Biden's extraordinary lie
Speaker 1: pardoning his son Hunter. Miranda Devine, who wrote the book
Speaker 1: on the Laptop from Hell, will join me next.
Speaker 2: That's after this quick break. Welcome back. We're US.
Speaker 1: President Joe Biden and his press secretary Karine Jean Pierre
Speaker 1: have repeatedly promised not to make any moves to pardon
Speaker 1: Hunter Biden.
Speaker 6: But let me ask you.
Speaker 2: Will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter
Speaker 2: what it is. Yes? And have you ruled out a
Speaker 2: pardon for your son?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 8: I shared admired by the jury decision, and I will
Speaker 8: do that and I will not partner him.
Speaker 13: From a presidential perspective, is there any possibility that the
Speaker 13: president would end up pardoning his son?
Speaker 15: I just said no.
Speaker 2: I just answer, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 1: It's the same the world over, political lies and spit,
Speaker 1: And of course, in his final days in the White House,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden today once again went against his word and
Speaker 1: pardoned his son Hunter. Biden was found guilty of lying
Speaker 1: about his drug use when buying a gun, as well
Speaker 1: as tax evasion, and now he's going to be spared
Speaker 1: a prison sentence. The President, in a statement, blamed a
Speaker 1: confected witch hunt. He said there'd been a miscarriage of justice.
Speaker 1: He said the charges in his cases came about only
Speaker 1: after several of my political opponents in Congress instigated them
Speaker 1: to attack me and oppose my election. He said, no
Speaker 1: reasonable person who looks at the facts of Hunter's cases
Speaker 1: can reach any other conclusion than Hunter was singled out
Speaker 1: only because he's my son.
Speaker 2: Well, that is some rewriting of history.
Speaker 1: As you know, this entire story was censored by tech
Speaker 1: giants eight years ago. Well I spoke about this stunning
Speaker 1: backflip with the author of two books related to this case,
Speaker 1: Laptop from Hell and The Big Guy, Miranda Divine, a
Speaker 1: little earlier. Maranda Divine, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 1: As always, firstly, what's your reaction to the news that
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who promised that the law would apply equally
Speaker 1: to everyone, has now pardoned his son Hunter.
Speaker 6: Well, look, Sherry, I think it's probably the least surprising
Speaker 6: news of the decade, certainly the least surprising news of
Speaker 6: this whole Hunter Biden saga. It was obvious that Joe
Speaker 6: Biden was going to pardon his son, despite the fact
Speaker 6: that he had repeatedly vowed.
Speaker 15: Not to do it.
Speaker 6: You know, he's told reporters that there was no way
Speaker 6: that he was going to pardon his son, that he
Speaker 6: promised not to do it, and he was going to
Speaker 6: not do it because he was a man of his word.
Speaker 2: Karine Jean Pierre and the.
Speaker 6: White House podium kept on saying, I mean as recently
Speaker 6: as just after the election, she kept on reiterating, no,
Speaker 6: Joe Biden's not going to pardon his son. But you know,
Speaker 6: Joe Biden never keeps his word. He's always breaking promises,
Speaker 6: he's always telling lies. So I think it's rather fitting
Speaker 6: that one of the final acts that this president makes
Speaker 6: before he leaves office is to break yet another promise
Speaker 6: to the American people.
Speaker 2: Well, Miranda.
Speaker 1: In his statement explaining his decision, Joe Biden claimed that
Speaker 1: Hunter had been done by and persecuted and unfairly targeted.
Speaker 2: I mean, Miranda, what about your two books.
Speaker 1: Your thorough investigation has been anything remotely unfair. It's really
Speaker 1: been the opposite, hasn'tant. There's barely been any action taken.
Speaker 6: You're absolutely right, it's been the complete opposite. Hunter Biden
Speaker 6: has acted always with impunity. He's broken the law, He's
Speaker 6: committed crimes.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's admitted to.
Speaker 6: Committing tax fraud and tax evasion when he pleaded guilty
Speaker 6: in September to those felony charges in California that would
Speaker 6: have carried, you know, at least average a three year
Speaker 6: jail term, and when he was convicted by a jury
Speaker 6: in Delaware on those gun charges in June, he knew
Speaker 6: that his father's power and influence would always protect him.
Speaker 6: And as you said, in both of my books, in
Speaker 6: Laptop from Hell and in The Big Guy, I've charted
Speaker 6: just how his father and his father's minions in the government,
Speaker 6: whether it be the FBI or the Department of Justice,
Speaker 6: or the State Department, or the CIA or even the irs,
Speaker 6: have all swung in behind Hunter Biden to clean up
Speaker 6: his messes, to get him off the hook. He was
Speaker 6: constantly getting into trouble and being a problem because he
Speaker 6: was a crack addict, and he was ricocheting around the
Speaker 6: world just basically extracting money from America's adversaries, from China,
Speaker 6: from Russia, from Ukraine, all sorts of places that his father,
Speaker 6: when he was vice president, had power over by a Hunter,
Speaker 6: would just sort of invoke his father's name and promise
Speaker 6: various favors from his father, and he would get millions
Speaker 6: of dollars.
Speaker 1: Miranda, do you think there's any chance that under a
Speaker 1: Trump administration we will see some of these matters properly
Speaker 1: investigated for the first time.
Speaker 6: Look, I don't know. I know that Donald Trump has just,
Speaker 6: for instance, nominated cash Patel to be the FBI director,
Speaker 6: which has caused great conniptions on the seventh floor of
Speaker 6: the JAD Gohoover Building in Washington, DC, where the top
Speaker 6: executives sit because Cash Patel, when he worked for a
Speaker 6: congressman who was the head of the Intelligence Committee back
Speaker 6: in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, Devin Nuness. Cash
Speaker 6: Pateel was instrumental in exposing the Russia Gate hoax and
Speaker 6: the wrongdoing by various people in the FBI and other
Speaker 6: members of the deep state in framing and Hillary Clinton's campaign,
Speaker 6: as well in framing Donald Trump as being somehow of
Speaker 6: Vladimir Putin's lackey, an agent of Russia that was all
Speaker 6: false and shown to be false by the Muller report,
Speaker 6: but it crippled Donald Trump's presidency. So once bitten twice shy,
Speaker 6: He's now put a real attack dog in there to
Speaker 6: clean out the FBI, and I'm sure that Cash Pattel.
Speaker 6: It's not about vengeance, but it's about accountability for those
Speaker 6: people who who really perverted the.
Speaker 2: Course of justice.
Speaker 6: And in my second book, The Big Guy, I talk
Speaker 6: about how with the Hunter Biden and Joe Biden corruption story,
Speaker 6: the biggest story ended up being the cover up by
Speaker 6: those agencies I mentioned the CIA, FBI, Department of Justice,
Speaker 6: State Department, and in basically protecting Joe Biden and covering
Speaker 6: up the crimes of his family and the corruption of
Speaker 6: his family and also the fact that he was involved,
Speaker 6: that was very elaborate cover up and really compromised those institutions,
Speaker 6: the security apparatus of the United States. I think that
Speaker 6: at the very least the fifty one former intelligence officials,
Speaker 6: most of them from the CIA, who signed that dishonest
Speaker 6: letter saying that the laptop was Russian disinformation, I think
Speaker 6: they will be seeing some scrutiny on their behavior, and
Speaker 6: at the very least they'll have their security clearances revoked.
Speaker 6: And since many of them are current CIA contractors. They
Speaker 6: weren't just formers, they were contractors. But even more sinister
Speaker 6: is the fact that that letter got the green light
Speaker 6: from the then CIA director under Donald Trump, Gina Haspell.
Speaker 6: She knew full well as did everyone who signed the letter,
Speaker 6: that it wasn't Russian disinformation. And she should have known
Speaker 6: that the FBI had had possession of that laptop since
Speaker 6: November of twenty or December of twenty nineteen, and they'd
Speaker 6: verified that it was Hunter Biden's, that it was not
Speaker 6: tampered with, and that it was fit for use in
Speaker 6: a court of law, which it was used in June.
Speaker 6: In that Delaware courtroom, I sat there and I watched
Speaker 6: as that silver MacBook Pro was held aloft by the prosecutor,
Speaker 6: walked across the courtroom, shown to the jury, and then
Speaker 6: shown to the FBI forensic expert in the witness box,
Speaker 6: who verified that yes, this was Hunter Biden's laptop, the
Speaker 6: very laptop we were told wasn't real.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's extraordinary.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been eight years now since the laptop
Speaker 1: was first discovered. It's been such an extraordinary journey since then,
Speaker 1: the claim of Russian disinformation, the tech platforms removing it
Speaker 1: are now in a sense, it's come full circle Biden
Speaker 1: having to take the step of pardoning his son, and
Speaker 1: we may or may not see more thorough investigation under the.
Speaker 2: Likes of Patel and John Ratcliffe. We'll see, all right.
Speaker 1: Moranda Devine, thank you so much much for joining us.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 6: Thank you, Sherry, it's great to see you again.
Speaker 1: All right, Still coming up with the show the teals
Speaker 1: accused of lacking integrity. Sarah Henderson will join me later,
Speaker 1: but first Albanize's rifted with Tanya Plibersak. Cameron Milner will
Speaker 1: spill the beans. That's after this quick break. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: get straight into it. Former Queensland Labor State Secretary and
Speaker 1: former chief of staff to Bill Shott and Cameron Milner
Speaker 1: joins me. Now, Cameron, let's turn to this rift reported
Speaker 1: rift between Albanezi and Pliversak. What inside detail can you
Speaker 1: tell us from labor circles.
Speaker 10: Well, there's definitely a rift, and there's been a rift
Speaker 10: for a long time between the two of them. I
Speaker 10: mean they're neighboring electrics there. Both members are left, but
Speaker 10: they hate each other's guts. Behind the scenes, and you know,
Speaker 10: as one left minister said to me, it all goes
Speaker 10: back to a lover's tiff, a lovers tiff. I don't
Speaker 10: subscribe to that theory. I think it's far more simple,
Speaker 10: far more venal Albot.
Speaker 13: Is challenged by Tenure.
Speaker 10: Tanyure is a talent.
Speaker 15: Albo is a dud.
Speaker 10: Tanyure was going to be Deputy Prime Minister under Bill
Speaker 10: Shorten and was demoted demoted from Education to Environment by
Speaker 10: Albert and in fact threatened to be left the ministry altogether.
Speaker 10: Alba was so threatened by her at that stage. Now
Speaker 10: only only the threat of her causing a by election
Speaker 10: in her seat and leaving Parliament all together kept her
Speaker 10: in the ministry. So no, I think there's a lot
Speaker 10: of animosity between the two of them, and a lot
Speaker 10: of Albo being very paranoid about just how talented Tanure is.
Speaker 1: I just want to clarify something, just so that our
Speaker 1: viewers don't get the wrong idea. When you said lover's
Speaker 1: tiff rift, there's no suggestion at all that they've been
Speaker 1: in any relationship in recent history, but perhaps dating back
Speaker 1: decades and decades and decades they might have been close then.
Speaker 2: But it's unconfirmed.
Speaker 15: No, that's right.
Speaker 10: A senior Left ministry or colleague said, despite the age
Speaker 10: difference many years ago, that's had occurred.
Speaker 15: It may or may not have Matt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, unconfirmed, but yeah, those are rumors from decades ago.
Speaker 1: Industry minister ed Husick the most senior Muslim politician. He's
Speaker 1: begged voters not to punish Labor over the Middle East issue.
Speaker 2: He gave an.
Speaker 1: Interview where he basically has accused Israel of all the
Speaker 1: atrocities in Gaza and Lebanon. No mention of Hamaso Hesbela,
Speaker 1: no mention of the hostages, God forbid, he should care
Speaker 1: about the hostages. I mean, Cameron, is this one sided,
Speaker 1: biased and a blatant misrepresentation of how this war has unfolded.
Speaker 10: And it's absolute disgrace. I mean, if ed Husick wants
Speaker 10: to be the Muslim votes candidate for Chiffley, let him
Speaker 10: resign and go and be the n of the Muslim
Speaker 10: votes candidate. Don't disgrace the Labor Party with such appalling,
Speaker 10: appalling coverage. But to his point about the article today
Speaker 10: about being worried the Muslim vote might not vote Labor,
Speaker 10: this is like a pyromaniac who started a bushfire and
Speaker 10: worried because the wind change, it's coming back to Bernie's
Speaker 10: own house. Ed Husick's right up to his eyeballs in
Speaker 10: inciting this sort of stuff, just as he did today
Speaker 10: in the news, with things which are factually incorrect, completely
Speaker 10: biased and aren't aren't what the Labour Party should be
Speaker 10: saying about Israel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: It's astonishing that the biopartisan support for Israel has been abandoned.
Speaker 1: I mean, on this topic, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke
Speaker 1: has come out and defended his decision to refuse the
Speaker 1: former Israeli minister Alet Shaked her visa application. I mean
Speaker 1: camerin when this government fast tracked the visas for nearly
Speaker 1: three thousand gardens, and we know because we've reported it,
Speaker 1: that some of them either express sentiments supporting hermas on
Speaker 1: social media or have been linked to hermas. I mean,
Speaker 1: how can he have made this decision?
Speaker 10: Well, it's a terrible decision, and I think you had
Speaker 10: a really good interview last week which I listened to
Speaker 10: with the Israeli former minister. I mean, she's not a
Speaker 10: security risk. She might have strong views, but goodness me,
Speaker 10: that's what a democracy is all about. No the three
Speaker 10: thousand gardens without security checks who were just led into
Speaker 10: the country because Tony Burke's got a problem his own
Speaker 10: electorate a Watson to hold the vote. There was terrible misjudgment,
Speaker 10: terrible misjudgment by the Albanese government, but made far worse,
Speaker 10: far worse by insulting a senior minister and a woman
Speaker 10: senior minister from one of our strongest allies, Shari so
Speaker 10: No an appalling decision and just goes to the virtue,
Speaker 10: signaling that Burke wants out there in the electorate of
Speaker 10: Watson to try to save his hide.
Speaker 1: It's all about domestic politics, no question. I mean, Camra Mildy,
Speaker 1: you know you must not recognize the Labor Party we're
Speaker 1: seeing at the moment.
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, I worry for the Labor Party. I
Speaker 10: think there are some really great people in the Labor Party.
Speaker 10: I had a Jewish friend who said they were about
Speaker 10: to resign. I'd convinced them to stay because I think
Speaker 10: we need good people in the Labor Party, the Labor
Speaker 10: Party to get back to being in the center, rather
Speaker 10: than being run by people whose only interest is getting
Speaker 10: themselves re elected. In a Western Sydney Electric and everything
Speaker 10: goes through that prison of their own personal politics to
Speaker 10: get re elected. The Labor Party is much bigger than
Speaker 10: any one individual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Camra mil thank you very much for
Speaker 2: joining me tonight.
Speaker 1: Now after the break, we'll look at the integrity of
Speaker 1: the Teals with Shadow Education Minister Sarah Henderson.
Speaker 2: That's next.
Speaker 1: All right, let's bring in our Shadow Education Minister Sarah Henderson.
Speaker 2: Sarah, great to see you as always.
Speaker 1: Look, I want to get your reaction to the fact
Speaker 1: that some of the Teals are endorsing a controversial independent candidate, Cherry.
Speaker 2: Good evening, great to join you.
Speaker 8: Yes, this is Alex Dyson in Wannan, who says he's
Speaker 8: an independent, but he's been endorsed by the Teals and
Speaker 8: he's had a very sordid history being involved in all
Speaker 8: sorts of tasteless stunts As an ABC comedian, he worked
Speaker 8: for Triple Jay as a breakfast host. But most offensive
Speaker 8: of all, Sharry, he participated in a horrifically offensive holocaust joke.
Speaker 8: He never apologized for that joke. Frankly, it's discussed. I'm
Speaker 8: not going to repeat what he said because it's so offensive.
Speaker 8: His co host Tom Ballard did apologize, the ABC did apologize,
Speaker 8: but this frankly joker never did. And as for the
Speaker 8: Teals claiming they raise the standards in the parliament, they're
Speaker 8: concerned about integrity. Why has someone of this color been endorsed.
Speaker 8: He simply is not fit to represent the people of
Speaker 8: Wanten and he never even apologized. So that says teld
Speaker 8: you everything you want to know about the Teals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sarah, I also want to ask you about the
Speaker 1: Albanizi government their failure to stop the use of the
Speaker 1: university Students Support and Amenities fee for student protests. You're
Speaker 1: saying that this is week leadership from Jason Claire. Can
Speaker 1: you explain to us how this fee works.
Speaker 8: So, the government has mandated that forty percent of this fee,
Speaker 8: which of course is tens of millions of dollars, will
Speaker 8: go to student organization and student led unions. And we
Speaker 8: put up an amendment in the parliament last week amidst
Speaker 8: the debikle in the Senate, with of course dozens of
Speaker 8: bills being shot through the Senate, and that amendment was
Speaker 8: to stop this money being used for protests.
Speaker 2: Sherry.
Speaker 8: The universities have been, as you know, an absolute hotbed
Speaker 8: of anti Semitism. I'm so concerned that this money is
Speaker 8: going to be used to print off posters and to
Speaker 8: fund anti Semitic hate and incitement by some of the
Speaker 8: student unions. And unbelievably, the government refused to support our
Speaker 8: amendment and that is more incredible weakness of leadership from
Speaker 8: Jason Clare.
Speaker 2: Sarah.
Speaker 1: Just finally, I want to get your reaction as well
Speaker 1: to the move we saw today where a corporate, a
Speaker 1: company that owns two hundred pubs in Australia, threatened to
Speaker 1: boycott Australia Day. They had to backflip on their decision,
Speaker 1: but you know this is part of a trend that
Speaker 1: we're now seeing a patent of corporates wanting to virtue signal.
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, and I think they've been caught out for that.
Speaker 8: They've now reversed their position. I want to see Australia
Speaker 8: Day being celebrated right across this great country. It's a
Speaker 8: day which brings Australians together.
Speaker 2: It should not divide, and any.
Speaker 8: Corporate or any local council who wants to play politics
Speaker 8: with Australia Day, I think Australians are coming after them.
Speaker 8: Australians Love Australia Day. It's a very special day and
Speaker 8: as I say, any corporate who does what these pubs
Speaker 8: have done will rue the day that they tried to
Speaker 8: divide Australians.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's this trend where we're met to
Speaker 1: feel embarrassed about our national flag instead of feel proud
Speaker 1: of the fact and grateful for the fact that we
Speaker 1: live in Australia, even though, as I said at the
Speaker 1: start of the show, it could be in better shape
Speaker 1: if it weren't for the current Albanezy government. Right, Sarah Henderson,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time, really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: That's it for me.
Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. Our final two
Speaker 1: weeks on air before the Christmas break. Don't miss the
Speaker 1: show in the next two weeks and up right now,
Speaker 1: my good mate Paul Murray
Speaker 15: M HM.