1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christianamio. 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: It's Monday, January nineteenth, twenty twenty six. Get on board 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or face the consequences. That's the warning from Beijing, who 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: says Australia must accept China's so called reunification with Taiwan 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: or else there'll be no forgiveness. China's ambassador in Australia, 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: zhaou Chen, also likened Taiwan to Tasmania and said Australia's 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: bilateral relationship with China could be compromised if our government 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: seeks to block Beijing's efforts to bring the island under 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: its control. That story's live right now at the Australian 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: dot com dot Au. Members and senators will descend on 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: Canberra on Monday for an emergency parliamentary sitting. They'll debate 12 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: reworked gun control and hate speech legislation. After so port 13 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: for the government's proposed omnibus bill waned Today National Editor 14 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 1: Dennis Shanahan on why the government still has a shot 15 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: at redemption. 16 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: My job as the Australian Prime Minister is to act 17 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 2: in the national interest. 18 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: A list of people wanting a Commonwealth's Royal commission into 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 3: the Bondai attack is growing by the day, but. 20 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezi is still resisting cascading pressure to green light 21 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: a royal commission. The government is committed to making sure 22 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: that we can't wait years for answers. We need to 23 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: get on with any changes that are required. 24 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: It took Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi twenty five days to 25 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: call a federal Royal commission into the December fourteenth terror 26 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: attack at Bondai Beach, where two gunmen allegedly motivated by 27 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: extremist Islamic ideology, opened fire on Ahuneker festival, killing fifteen 28 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: people and injuring dozens more. After twenty five days, the 29 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: chorus was too loud to ignore. 30 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: Today, I have asked that former High Court Justice, the 31 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: Honorable Virginia bell Ac to serve as the commissioner. 32 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 3: The government now has one chance at redemption. 33 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: Dennis Shanahan is The Australian's National editor. 34 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: After two years of failure, what is now needed is 35 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 3: a clear declaration of intent of what the government actually 36 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 3: wants and what the Australian public actually needs. What we've 37 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: seen is a government reluctant to actually declare clearly what 38 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: it wants, what the principles are, it's obfiscated, its delayed, deferred. 39 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: And what we've seen since Bondi is a government that 40 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: has resisted a royal commission, then caved in and called 41 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: a royal commission. We saw a government that said it 42 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: didn't want to recall parliament, and then recalled parliament, and 43 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 3: then it introduced legislation which was so flawed and fraught 44 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 3: that the Prime Minister was forced into a second major 45 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: backflip and said, oh no, sorry, we're going to change 46 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: all of this, because the only unity he had achieved 47 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: was that people were unified against him. Dreams, Coalition, liberals, nationals, 48 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: religious leaders, Muslim leaders, Jewish leaders, they were all against 49 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: this legislation. But the real issue here is that what 50 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: the Australian public wants, even more than some attempt to 51 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: create a age of front against anti Semitism, is a 52 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 3: real investigation into how the Bondai massacre happened, what could 53 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: have been done to prevent it, and what can be 54 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: done to prevent another one. What we need over the 55 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: next two days of parliamentary sitting is a clear intention, 56 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,799 Speaker 3: a declaration of intention from the government. We want all 57 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 3: the interagency cooperation to be investigated. We want ASIO, the AFP, 58 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,720 Speaker 3: the State police all to be looked into to see 59 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 3: what they knew and when the reality is we'll never 60 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: be able to stop terror attacks, but we should be 61 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: able to reduce them, and that's what we've got to 62 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 3: do now. 63 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: The security inquiry, led by former ASIO boss and respected 64 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: foreign affairs expert Dennis Richardson, will go ahead as part 65 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: of the Royal Commission, but without the teeth. 66 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: Important to recognize here, Dennis Richardson does not have the 67 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: powers of a Royal Commissioner. He cannot coerce witnesses into 68 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: giving evidence. If the head of ASIO, for instance, and 69 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting he is, but if the head of 70 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: ASIO were to stall Dennis Richardson on questions about the 71 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: involvement the priorities of ASIO, Dennis Richardson in himself cannot 72 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: say okay, listen, Mike, you get down to it here 73 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: and you do as I say. Dennis Richardson then has 74 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: to go to Virginia Bell write a letter. Dear Virginia, 75 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 3: what I want is for you to tell ASIO to 76 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: cooperate with me. Now, the Royal Commissioner Virginia Bell doesn't 77 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: have to actually do that. But the look, imagine this, 78 00:05:54,880 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: the look for a departmental head, a minister, somebody who 79 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: says to Dennis Richardson, now I'm not going to give 80 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: you what you want, and he then has to go 81 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: to get the raw commission to give that power. So 82 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: that's a bad news for them in a political sense. Secondly, 83 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 3: Virginia Bell is not compelled to actually give Dennis Richardson 84 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 3: that coercive power on a particular innestrying and say no, look, 85 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: I don't think that's not pertinent. It's then open to 86 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 3: Dennis Richardson to then turn around and say, well I 87 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: think it is, and I'm out of here a disaster. 88 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: So what we're actually looking at here is, instead of 89 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: clear powers ceded to Dennis Richardson, it's a series of 90 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 3: practical measures that have to take place with coercive threats. Now, 91 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 3: I'm not casting any aspersions whatsoever on Dennis Richardson or 92 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: Mike Burgess or the head of the AFP or the 93 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 3: head of the New South Wales Police. All I'm saying 94 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: is these are things the public needs to be reassured 95 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 3: will be addressed. And yet in the current circumstances, they 96 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 3: are not necessarily This is why we need the government 97 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: to come out and say we want full cooperation with 98 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: Dennis Richardson. We want him to look at this and this, 99 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: and we're not afraid where he does look, so that 100 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: everyone can say, yes, this is a fair income inquiry 101 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: anti Semitism aside, we want to ensure that Australia's domestic 102 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: security is in the right hands and being handled correctly. 103 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Coming up why the PM's return to Parliament isn't going 104 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: to plan. When MPs and senators return to canber today, 105 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: they'll convene to debate legislation very different to what the 106 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: government had intended. Labour had proposed a two part omnibus 107 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: bill geared towards curbing anti semitism and preventing another tragedy 108 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: like Bondai, the first part focusing on gun reform and 109 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: the second on Australia's hate speech laws, but the Coalition 110 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: and the Greens weren't on board. Opposition leader Susan Lee 111 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: said her party will progress an alternative approach. 112 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 4: These changes to legislation will tackle antisemitism head on in education, 113 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 4: the arts and society more broadly and critically enshrine the 114 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 4: definition of anti senitism in law. 115 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: Deputy Green's leader Marine Ferruki said her party will come 116 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: to the table on gun laws but won't back the 117 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: government's proposed immigration and hate speech reforms. 118 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 2: This is the divisive and dangerous legislation which cannot be fixed. 119 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: And that put the government in a tight spot. 120 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: So we'll separate out the bills. The gun laws will 121 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: be separate, and then the laws on hate crimes and 122 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 2: migration will proceed, but we will not be proceeding with 123 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: the racial vilification provisions because it's clear that that will 124 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 2: not have support. 125 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: Here's Dennis Shanahan. 126 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: Well, it's self evidently a shambalic mess. I don't think 127 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 3: anyone can say it's not. The Prime Minister, of course, 128 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: was trying to use politics. He was trying to use 129 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: this omnibus bill which was like an albatross around his neck, 130 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: which was threatening to go down and drag him down 131 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 3: with it. And yet he and his senior ministers Penny 132 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: Wong and Tony Burke were defending the legislation up until 133 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 3: Friday evening. They were saying, oh no, it's all the 134 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 3: oppositions for but in fact what they would do doing, 135 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:06,359 Speaker 3: and what they have been doing since obviously the October 136 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: seven attack is they have been playing politics. They have 137 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 3: not addressed the whole issue of anti Semitism, of security failures, 138 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: of security corporation, of growing fears in the community. We've 139 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: seen graffiti attacks and fire bombings, control from overseas. How 140 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 3: is this happening? And partly because the government has always 141 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: played politics and the Omnibus Bill was about driving a 142 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: wedge between the coalition partners and forcing Susan Lean too 143 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: positioned where she would be seen to opposing the legislation 144 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 3: she'd been calling for. And this is what they have 145 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 3: done all along, is they have not grasped the gravitas 146 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: of the security issue involved here, let alone the principle 147 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: of anti Semitism. They have not grasped the breadth and 148 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: the depth of the security threat before Bondai and now 149 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: since Bondai, all they have done is played politics. And 150 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: that's why it turned into a shambalic mess on Saturday, 151 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 3: Legislation being split, legislation being withdrawn, and a terrible political 152 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 3: outcome for the Prime Minister. 153 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: Dennis Shanahan is The Australian's national editor for all the 154 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: latest from Canberra and around the nation. Visit the Australian 155 00:11:44,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: dot com dot au