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Speaker 1: The City and Whip with Kate Ritchie Podcast, Tom.

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Speaker 2: Ever look at him with his smug little smile over there.

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Speaker 2: What have you got for us? We haven't done this

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Speaker 2: segment for a while time.

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Speaker 3: We're going to do the Citsium Weather with Kate Ritchie's.

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Speaker 4: Everything Can Be the Past, Present Future?

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Speaker 2: Am I the only one? Are you the only one

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Speaker 2: wearing a handed scarf with a pop collar today? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much for the opportunity to wear.

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Speaker 4: I've got a I've got a box in front of me. Kay,

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Speaker 4: you haven't done this before, haven't.

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Speaker 5: I'm intrigued in the music, is it? It's so captivating

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Speaker 5: that box open? Come on, So, I've got this box

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Speaker 5: in front of me now inside. There's a question that

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Speaker 5: was submitted by one of our listeners, sent to us

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Speaker 5: on our Instagram page. So DMed us and he wants

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Speaker 5: to know.

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Speaker 4: If he's the only one listening right now, who this

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Speaker 4: has happened to. Let's pull it out of the box.

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Speaker 4: How the only one who has died.

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Speaker 2: For twenty minutes? What? Oh?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 4: That is a huge question to ask, and it came

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Speaker 4: from Phil, who joins us on the line.

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Speaker 2: Now, Phil, are you there?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am guys, Pixy with er and Coda boy.

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Speaker 2: How are you thanks for joining us? Filthy phil Philip,

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Speaker 2: I'm correct, this happened not that long ago.

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Speaker 1: I was last year in November. But yeah, it's not

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Speaker 1: that long. No, I got it now.

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Speaker 2: Time flies, Time flies when you're dead. How long were

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Speaker 2: you actually did for phil?

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Speaker 1: Ah some way to go? Twenty eight minutes, But that's

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Speaker 1: in and out, back after back. After the paramedics arrived

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Speaker 1: and they told me so that I was okay, but

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Speaker 1: he reckons that they just don't have the reassuring because

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Speaker 1: they were still giving the dec pumping my chest a

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Speaker 1: bit afterwards. So they got me into the ambulance to the.

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Speaker 2: Hospital twenty eight minutes.

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Speaker 5: Tell us what what happened just before that twenty eight

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Speaker 5: minute started? How did you actually die?

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Speaker 1: Had a cardiac risk? Of course by naneurism on the wall.

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Speaker 1: I was playing basketball, doing my thing up and down

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Speaker 1: the court, running around. No signs, no symptoms apparently, like

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Speaker 1: they say, I just dropped.

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Speaker 2: Wow, like white men can't breathe? What which is an eye?

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Speaker 1: An eye guy?

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Speaker 2: The sequel that over took off?

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Speaker 5: Who was there with you at the time. Did you

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Speaker 5: have a team where you were just like doing drills

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Speaker 5: on your own.

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Speaker 1: No, we're playing a game. That'sual game. Come with scorekeeper

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Speaker 1: and his scorecas for our team. So he was there, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was there. He was there. Yeah, he pad smartest

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Speaker 1: thing he's ever done.

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Speaker 3: Who was the one person that did keep it going

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Speaker 3: and that kept you alive? Before the ambulance.

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Speaker 1: Got there, a nurse had come rushing over from one

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Speaker 1: of the other courses, was playing basketball and off Judy nurse.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: He started the procedure, and then I think you got

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Speaker 1: a few others because it's quite hard work rotating and around.

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Speaker 2: Phil, Can I ask when you'd passed away, what did

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Speaker 2: you see? Was the light there were You're told to

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Speaker 2: go back talk us through what it was like being dead.

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Speaker 1: That that's the way everyone wants to know. My answer

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Speaker 1: is I always say, look, I used to term a

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Speaker 1: bit out of body, right, no lights, no angels.

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Speaker 2: So you were looking back at yourself, Phil, standing.

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Speaker 1: There watching it or like watching a movie telling everyone.

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Speaker 1: One of the big big things that I recall after

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Speaker 1: a wake up and sticks in the head that I

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Speaker 1: was like standing there, Josh, what are you doing on

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Speaker 1: your phone? Get off at phone? Tripple that's to be

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Speaker 1: fun because he's always on his phone.

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Speaker 2: My god, was there a sense of fear?

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Speaker 5: Like when you're watching the scene unfolded, did you know

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know it was me. My vision

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Speaker 1: It's all good. I can go and leave it in

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Speaker 1: everyone's stands.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's the sense. He doesn't know that he's that's

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's anything like Philms.

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Speaker 2: It's exactly liked.

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Speaker 5: Since having an experience like this, what are you doing differently?

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Speaker 5: Like how has it changed your life?

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Speaker 2: Not just the health stuff.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, like I've got to do a bit more of

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Speaker 5: it changed your mindset, mindset?

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling a bit blessed, guys, Yeah, so you should be.

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Speaker 1: So I'm feeling a bit like, well, you know, he listened.

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Speaker 1: There was fifty minutes of basketball time that could have

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Speaker 1: happened anyway. Yeah, it's got to be so there's got

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Speaker 3: Oh did they finish the game, Phil, who won doesn't

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Speaker 5: I think you're the winner.

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Speaker 1: The first guys exact question at that time, were up

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Speaker 5: You weren't faking a turn because you were behind?

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Speaker 2: Did throw the game? Did you feel you're stuffed at.

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Speaker 4: Your hardest take?

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Speaker 2: Stuffed for the time? They laugh too. I feel you'll

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Speaker 2: die again.

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Speaker 1: No, when I saw that we won the.

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Speaker 2: Game, that is fascinating, mate, world done.

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Speaker 3: God, that's why we need a DEFIB at every sporting events.

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Speaker 1: At all sporting events, everyone do their CPR. It's so vital.

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Speaker 1: People need to get out there and do That's that's

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Speaker 1: a serious message. Part can only feel.

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Speaker 2: Are we looking for people who have just passed away?

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Speaker 2: Tom and come back?

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Speaker 1: All?

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Speaker 3: People who have died for more than twenty minutes. That's

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Speaker 2: That's going to be tough.

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Speaker 4: So is Phil the only one who has died and

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Speaker 4: come back before? Bring in your great stories now, Col Yeah, well.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Peel, Lucky, Phil, Ali and Thorney. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: You're a nurse, but you actually died for two minutes yourself.

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Speaker 6: I did, I did? That was only seventeen years old.

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Speaker 6: And I was on the operating table and I had

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Speaker 3: So can I. I mean, you would not be being

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Speaker 3: under you wouldn't remember too much, but obviously did you.

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Speaker 6: Remember it all?

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Speaker 2: Wow? So what were you like?

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Speaker 3: It was an outer body experience looking over and seeing yourself.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely was. When he was talking, I was smiling

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Speaker 6: I was just I guess you could say, mildly curious

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Speaker 2: Well that's what Phil said. Real it was almost almost

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Speaker 2: like it wasn't him that he was looking at. Is

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Speaker 6: No, I knew it was me watching, but I and

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Speaker 5: But it was very peaceful and at the end of

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Speaker 6: No, No, it was just it was almost like a dream,

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Speaker 6: I myself didn't have any sensation of floating.

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Speaker 6: I was having an operation?

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Speaker 3: Do you do you know whose fault it was? Was

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Speaker 2: Ali?

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Speaker 6: No, Well, this is back in nineteen seventy three and

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Speaker 6: no open disclosure wasn't a big thing. Then nobody told

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Speaker 6: anything happen during the operation? And he said what he means.

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Speaker 6: So I reeded word for word what he did and

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Speaker 6: He said, well, you had a cardiac rereer. OK.

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Speaker 6: No? No. I actually can't tell you what was certain

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Speaker 3: Said, oh my, this is unbelievable, Alie, because that's what

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask you. I mean, there was conversations,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well it'd probably a bit worried.

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Speaker 6: Well, I said to him, were why didn't you tell me?

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Speaker 6: And that's when he said, because.

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Speaker 3: Oh god, I mean, did you come out of that

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Speaker 3: with any special superpowers?

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Speaker 1: Ali?

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Speaker 3: Like, can you play the piano or could you speak

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Speaker 3: a different language?

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Speaker 6: Oh? Mate, I could already play the piano, but I

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Speaker 6: have absolutely no fear of dying.

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Speaker 2: Wow, good on you. Thanks for your story, and that's

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Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, but she's just trumped Phil. I don't

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Speaker 2: know about the two to twenty eight. You delivered it

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Speaker 2: well low twenty.

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Speaker 5: Eight, but being able to recall an entire conversation. I

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Speaker 5: do agree, though, I think back then there were things

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Speaker 5: that would happen. I have a family story where my

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Speaker 5: grandmother passed away on the operating table, and I don't

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Speaker 5: think anyone ever really got the.

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Speaker 2: Full Did she come back?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: Oh, so that's that's a story for a different phoner.

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Speaker 2: See I Or when did your granny die?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: See this is to bring it all down or you

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Speaker 2: don't know pot.

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Speaker 3: When I had my my third or fourth nee reconstruction,

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Speaker 3: I asked, can I get a Is there any chance

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Speaker 3: I can get a video just to see what you

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Speaker 3: guys are doing in there?

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Speaker 2: And they looked at me.

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Speaker 3: With what us videotape ourselves doing surgery on your body?

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Speaker 2: I think when your career died Gone with Kate Ritchie

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Speaker 2: is a Nova podcast.

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Speaker 6: Jodd, are you