WEBVTT - “PULL YOUR HEAD IN!”: Kalyn Ponga’s dangerous studs up tactic for Origin 2 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.400 Hello and welcome to the Code NRL Podcast. I'm dean 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:13.120 Bulldog Richie, joined by Alex from merl Soapbox Soapy. 0:00:13.240 --> 0:00:14.360 Hey, how am I'm good. 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.920 Buddy and of course the one and only Fatima could do? 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:19.560 How are Fatima? I'm going to get you to start 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:23.680 us off today, Fatima, because Mitchell Moses on Monday morning 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.320 gets held a press commrich to talk about his injury 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.480 and whether he's playing run us through. 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.280 What happened Well, for the last five six days, everybody 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.080 else has been talking about Mitchell Moses. This morning he 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:38.400 spoke and he declared he is ready to go. He 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:43.320 described his hamstring injury as nothing but a scratch. So look, 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.120 he's had limited preparations for Game two. He missed out 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.920 on that first contact session in Thursday at the wyn Ruse. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:54.440 He did a bit of a scrimmage on Saturday. The 0:00:54.480 --> 0:00:57.280 Blues are at Amy Park on Monday morning. It's expected 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.680 he'll get through, or at least hope to get through 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.480 that entire session. But he says he's confident. It's not 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.520 his kicking leg. He's been able to run and yeah, 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.040 as he said, he's ready to go. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:12.600 I think it might be a little bit more serious 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:15.200 than just a scratch. He ruled out of Paramouter's game 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.399 last week. But Sophie, are you convinced Mitch Moses's fit 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:20.279 and can you get through the eighty minutes? 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.560 Well, I've got to take his word for it, and 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.760 so Mitch Moses has been a great servant to New 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.600 South Wales, so he wouldn't put us in a position 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:29.839 where we'd be looking vulnerable. I was very much wanting 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.320 Ethan Strange to play because of all the question marks 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.360 around Moses and Stranger's previous performance. But when we now 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.760 look at the other injury impacts for New South Wales, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:43.040 we've got a rookie Blues player in Mark Nowanase coming 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:44.319 in on that left edge. 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:45.920 We probably Kola goes into the center. 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:48.960 If we had Strange there, that would be an unbelievably 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.080 inexperienced edge. So bringing Moses in now, I'm like, Okay, 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.760 Laurie knows what he's doing for this part, and I'm 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:55.520 pretty happy about it. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:59.040 Well, with the injury to Casey McLean, obviously there was 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.080 that little shift with Cooler coming into the centres and 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:07.520 Mark Nowo ands on the wing. Brett White has intimated 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:11.560 that there potentially are not decided exactly of what those 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:14.160 edges might look like, So mate potentially might be a 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.440 swap between Brian Toto and Mark nawang andoas with the edges. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.120 I don't know if I would do that, considering Bizza 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.200 and Tony Staggs have pretty much had two full camps, 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.240 you know, training doing reps on that edge. But there 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.440 could be some late changes in terms of exactly how 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:30.280 those edges. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.239 Look look That's really I like that idea though, just 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.840 to see experience looking after the junior players and the 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.679 junior talent has done great so far under Lorri, but 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:39.320 you want to make sure they're being looked after, because 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.440 that's a that would be if I was coincident, if 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:43.200 I was going to target anywhere, it'd be where all 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:43.800 the rookies are. 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:45.799 Sopie wat your overall thought. 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:47.799 Now that we look like we've finally come up with 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.960 a final nineteen for the Blues, are. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.600 You confident in New South Wales? Do you think they 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:55.040 can win? 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.079 Or well, I'm really glad you asked me this bulldog 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:03.680 because I want justice for what has that man done wrong? 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.359 But I actually loved Dylan Lucas. He's awesome I think 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.639 this team actually looks really great and upset this before. 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.520 But I think Queensland played at their best. They're almost 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.400 at their peak. New South Wales had a lot of 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:16.040 improvement to go. If they play even fifty percent better, 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:17.920 I think they're very much the favorite. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.720 Are you a fan of Dylan Lucas Patima? 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.320 He's been incredible for the Knights, Like you can't take 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.639 away what he's done for Newcastle this year. But I'm 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.040 with Sophie, like, if you look at the back rollers 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:34.280 that we had available for selection, Hamole Olatu was our 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.200 form backrower this year, so and I agree if there 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.520 is some improvement, there would have been improvement in guys 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.160 like Comole Olatu, and I have no doubt he would 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:44.400 have been better than what he produced in Game one, 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.600 which I still think wasn't bad. Wasn't that bad. There 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.440 was talk, you know, there was issues. The coaching staff 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.360 didn't like everything what they saw of him off the ball, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.119 the rest of it. But I still thought his line 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.880 speed was okay. You know, yes he did get fatigued, 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.840 but you know it's origin who isn't which you know, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.360 one hundred plus hundred and ten plus forward isn't feeling 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.960 a level of fatigue. I'll starting forwards were fatigued after 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:09.600 ten minutes, so look, I think Dylan Lucas will go well. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.160 I'm a sopie. I'm disappointed for Hamolo Olokawatsu because I 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.440 think he's made for that arena, But you know, if 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.479 you have to have faith and Laurie and that. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:19.680 Decision, I would have gone with Hamoli myself. But I 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.000 do know there was a couple of incidances in game one, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.960 which I don't know whether you guys remember. One was 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.559 a poor kick Chase Emally didn't quite reach his target 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:27.839 come on pong and had a long break. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.760 They scored moments later, and I think the. 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:33.440 Eathan Strange, no try Emoi, mister mark and run there. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:35.039 It was a bad langule he ran and he didn't 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.520 push through, and that costs the Blues to try. It's 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:41.400 only little, but those are the little moments win and 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:42.880 all the rest of origin. 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:44.280 But I'm a manly fan. I'm going to look after 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:44.600 my boy. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.400 Jimole here like he was nowhere near in the bottom 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.039 fire performers, so I would understand if he had an 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.559 absolute Barry Crocker, but he actually put in a decent effort. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:53.279 Let him and. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.920 Run meters, let him post contact meters and at other 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.640 times let in the kickchase put on that pressure. It's 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.560 not his fault. His teamates were dropping the ball left, 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.479 right and center. But I'm pretty keen on Dylan Lucas. 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:07.240 I think it's gonna be awesome. I think when Queensland 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:09.040 are tired, he's going to run a mark. I think 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:11.600 it's still a good selection. I just want justice for 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:12.160 Home all day. 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.240 Let's move on to Queensland and when we come on 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:16.440 this show, we like to have a bit of fun 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:17.560 ye and a few jops. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:18.360 That's part of the show. 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.080 But before we do that, we just want to send 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:25.920 our condolences, our deepest condolences to Big Tinoli. Of course, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:30.760 his father already passed away last Thursday, so to Tino 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.960 and his extended family and the whole Queensland side, we 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.480 send our love and support up there. It's only a 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:40.120 game in the end, and tin is obviously known about 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.960 his father's illness, which has been quite a long It 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.480 was for a long time at this point Tino is playing, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.360 but we just wanted to send on our condolences to 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:54.120 the Ari family, right Queensland Bulldog's bite today. I've come 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:58.479 out and said, Kaylen Ponger pulled your head in the shoulder, 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.599 charges not one, but two and nine a few weeks 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:05.520 and this studs up kung fu kick karate, Hey, karate, 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.159 that's what he's been doing. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.480 And I fear I'm spitting now, that's how upset on. 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.240 I fear that when Klen goes up to catch his 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.839 kicks studs up, it's going to come at someone's eye. 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.040 Am I on the money you have? I got it 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:20.440 right on. 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.839 You've timed this perfectly, like I know what you're doing. 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.520 Then it's Monday coming into Origin. You want the attention 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.760 on this karate kick, and I'm with you. I'm with 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.000 your bulldog. I think, like I understand what he's doing. 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.279 It's a self preservation measure. It's getting a bit too 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:34.440 greedy though, isn't he. Sometimes it's not just this studs 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.640 are up, it's there's a kick going out that's not 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:37.560 a legal play. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:40.160 Well, if someone runs into that leg though, they get 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:43.719 the penley as in Ponger, and that's another fans are noticing. 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:45.680 Yeah, so I think you're right. 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.800 I think I hope that the referees are paying close 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:50.080 attention to that, because you can't just be doing karate 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:54.240 kicks mid eir yeah thoughts uh Yeah. 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:56.280 There was one against Parat a couple of weeks ago 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.600 where I can't remember who the parent defender was, but 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.080 you know, if you freeze for it was almost like 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.280 his studs were touched. Williams Jack Williams, all right, yes so. 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.000 And there was also a couple of sort of weird 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.560 high ball takes in Origin one as well, where he 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.920 was almost putting himself in a position to knock himself 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:14.160 out with how hard he was falling to the ground. 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.280 I did hear Ponga on the weekend talk about the 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:22.000 tackling technique side of things, and you know what, he 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:24.680 put his hand up saying, you know, I have to 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.320 be better. I understand that. Not only do I have, 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.720 you know, a response like I've got a responsibility of 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.960 making sure of not putting my opposition players in a 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.360 dangerous position. And he did, you know, concede that it 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:40.120 is a technique that goes awry a little bit for him, 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.640 especially when he's defending and sliding on the line. So yeah, 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.920 it'll be interesting to see if he's read Yaw pulled 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.960 one about the kung fu kicks and you know what 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:52.239 he does with his shoulders On Wednesday night, before. 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.440 We move on from the state of Origin, Fearless Tips. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.400 Go. Of course New South Wales by a very confidently 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:04.240 of course, Nathan Cleary puts in another massive performance and 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.520 he will eventually win the Wally Lewis Medal. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:06.840 On the back of it. 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:07.880 Love that one. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.200 I think New South Wales should win this bout sixteen. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.520 I think they've got so much improvement and they think 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:12.880 they'll do it. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:14.320 I think the Blues if they get off to a 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.040 good start. It's been so poured in the last three games. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.320 Twenty points behind in the last three games. I just 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:21.640 can't wake that one out. But if they can get 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.000 off to a wood start, which I think they will, 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.000 I think they could win by eight to ten points 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:26.080 and clench the series. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.840 Let's move on to NRL the shot clot. 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:32.400 Drama over there in Auckland on the weekend. You're all 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.840 over this story for Tima, run us through what happened, 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.200 run us through what you think might happen. In terms 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.640 of any post game action from the NRL. 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.959 Well, I'm as much across it as the NROL was 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.120 yesterday when I spoke to them, and they were still 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.520 looking at it, so it is for those that don't know, 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.640 it's all a little bit confusing. So Chanel Harris Tavita 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.080 was lining up for a goal line dropout. Apparently at 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.720 that time there was an avertism on the big screen 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.440 and so he couldn't see the shot clock. He says 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.480 to Jared Sudden, how much time I ever got to 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.840 left to go? I can't see it. Jerard Sudden says 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.679 five seconds. On the Sky Sports broadcast, there was a 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.560 shot clock that showed. As Sudden was saying five seconds, 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:19.439 the clock showed two seconds. So Harris Tavita goes to 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.840 kick it. The shot clock goes off. He hasn't got 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:23.840 his kick away and it's a penalty, and he says 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:25.719 to him, mate, mate, you told me five seconds. I 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.920 thought I still had three seconds. I couldn't see it. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.080 He says, that's not my Suten said, it's not my problem. 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:32.000 The timer is a timer. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:33.720 So the thing with that is, so the. 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:38.640 NRL controls the scoring systems and the clocks, they do 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.079 not control what is shown on the big screen. So 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:45.599 I feel like it was a perfect storm right, the 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.160 shot clock should have been on the big screen. Jared 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.800 Sudden probably who knows what he was getting, what feed 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.920 he was getting in his ear, saying five seconds when 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.440 he only had two seconds. But it's also on Harris Tavita, 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.040 he's got twenty five seconds to make sure that he's 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:00.559 getting the kick away. You know, I don't think you know, 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.160 you know, if you compare someone like Nathan Cleary, I 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.040 don't think Nathan Cleary has ever given away a time violations, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.959 So you know, there has to also be an bonus 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:11.640 on the player whose responsibility is to get the kick away. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:12.560 Get the kick away. 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.480 So based on that, we've got three people here who 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.120 could throw their hands up and say it was my fault. 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:20.800 It should have been on the big screen. That's a 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.360 Warriorus problem. I don't think Suton should have said five 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:28.360 seconds if he wasn't sure. And as Fatima said, Devida 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.719 should have ye taken the kick well and truly. 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.520 Before that moment where it was just so tight. 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.679 Well, I think okay, so, and I think Andrew Webster 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.679 even went off in the press up, which he never does, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.319 like he's so respectful to the referees. He's incredibly diplomatic. 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.480 The fact that he was so frustrated about it made 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.959 me look into it more. Going Jesus, if we'bb be 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.920 saying something, then something must have really gone wrong. It's 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:52.280 pretty poor formed from something to say that it's not his. 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:54.959 I can view generously that as like he's got so 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:56.160 much to manage, he's not managing. 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:57.000 That's not on him. 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:59.920 But I think it actually reflects why the Warrior is lot. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.600 So some fans say they lost because of those couple 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:04.880 of decisions and there were penalties given away. No, they 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.680 lost because it actually just perfectly. There was a perfect 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:09.440 thread for the Warriors game, and it's that they were 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.960 too slow. They were too slow with the shot clock, 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.360 they were too slow with that field goal moment, and 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.640 they allowed the game to get away from them. They 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:19.360 were too slow in getting to Trindley, and then they 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.960 had that They actually had the opportunity to win twice 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.760 in the last ten minutes and they blew both opportunities. 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.600 So it's a good talking point and it's absolutely needs 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.079 to be improved. This is the premium competition in Australia. 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:32.400 We can't be having that kind of mistake. But it's 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:34.280 not the reason the Warriors lost. They were they lost 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:35.280 because they were too slow and. 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.680 They also gave away a second time violation too at 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:38.040 the scrum. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.920 Yeah, so it's just atten detail. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:41.679 But that's what I mean. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.840 It's like with the Harris Tavita kick. Its attention to detail. 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.880 Like the best halfbacks have that attention to detail. So 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:51.439 look at I think, Yeah, Andrew Webster's pretty cool, come 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.280 and collected, and he did call the whole process unprofessional. 0:11:54.600 --> 0:11:56.959 That you know, it's also unprofessional for the Warriors to 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.719 be showing an ad when the big screen should have 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.840 a shot clock on it. But I also think there 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:07.240 should be a visible clock on the ground, especially for 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:11.120 scrums and for golung dropouts, like you said, in the 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.880 level of professionalism that we're in at the moment, that 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:17.000 should be taken away at least from the clubs and 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:18.520 it should be something that aner El's controlling. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.760 Let's move back to Australia and hobo we go north 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:27.520 of the border. The Broncos another abysmal showing this round. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.720 I've said a couple of weeks ago there gone clearly 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:31.520 there's no reason to change that now. In fact, it's 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.760 only getting worse. And when you break it all down, Sopie. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.120 I'm starting to think now it's been quite an insipid 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:39.640 Premiership defense. 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.920 It's definitely been terrible. As the season's gone on, it's 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:45.959 gotten worse. I think there was a terrible start, but 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.000 you could excuse that for a few reasons. Then there 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.320 was the major disruption of losing an assistant coach. Then 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:53.319 there was a three match winning streak and Haas and 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:54.400 then the Payinhause news. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.280 Is World Club challenge to flit. It was sort of 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:57.559 like it was doomed for the beginning. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.200 Yeah, so it's like, okay, that was difficult. But then 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.280 I don't understand how to explain the form of the 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.920 players in the past six to eight weeks, Like none 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.280 of their stars are really performing. I know they've had 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.240 pain hearts out as well, so you can make all 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:11.280 these excuses, but at the end of the day, they 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.760 just haven't been performing. And I do think there's something 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.920 to be said about the inconsistency and instability of their spine. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.280 I think at one point, and someone might fact check 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:23.559 me on this, but there was duffy Man, Reynolds and 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.440 Hunt on the field. So that's four players who really 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.840 should be fulfill filling two positions. It feels like they 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:32.600 just haven't nailed their spine, and I think that's part 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.880 of the reason that they've suffered such bad form. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.000 I think, to be fair, they've had a lot of injuries. Yeah, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.360 but that side against saus On the weekend wasn't that 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:44.920 bad and they capitulated and for a side that we 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.800 expect so much of, that pretty much summed up their 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:49.400 season to me. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:53.320 Yeah, there was no hunger and there was no desire. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.440 Well that's the thing, you know. And also there were 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.079 really sort of glaring moments of a real lack of 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:01.360 effort there. You know, there was the first half and 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:05.000 Adam Reynolds makes makes the break. It's eight minutes in. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.800 There should be fresh legs. He's you know, he was 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.240 seventy meters break. I think about the fifty to sixty 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.319 meter mark. He's looking behind him, where's my support? And 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:16.240 like Jesse Arthur's is barely close enough to be able 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.719 to take a pass that Laki Hubner, you know, the 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.320 rabbit O's forward takes him down. And then when Jesse 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.640 Arthur's actually you know, is forced to play the board. 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.080 Damnihalf he passed it to the ground because his teammates, 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.560 you know, aren't there, so you're thinking, like what is 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.320 going on? And then of course there was the Ben 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:34.480 Hunts Parker. Ben Hunts passed since Preston Ricky's back, I 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.840 think it was, And yeah, Preston Ricky had just made 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.400 a tackle on a big guy as well and he 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.840 was getting back into the line, but he just, you know, 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:43.880 what was he doing. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.200 And not only that, but the. 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.800 Players around Preston Ricky at the time looked like they 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.640 had no idea who Ben Hunt was going to pass 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:57.000 to anyway, So yeah's it just they look a shadow 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.840 of the team that went on their premiership run last 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:02.480 year year. And you're right, Boulog, Yes, they do have 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:04.800 a lot of players out injured, they have a couple 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:08.480 of players in origin, but they still have a good 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.640 enough team, or at least should have a good enough 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:15.000 culture that when like, as a premiership powerhouse, if that's 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:16.400 what you want to be, you should have a good 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.720 enough culture that when your stars are out or when 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.680 you're missing a couple of players, that the next man 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:23.880 stands up and plays with effort. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.440 Their scrutiny, though, is the result of their poor form line, right, 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.440 So the rooster has also got flogged, but no one's 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.120 talking about Oh geez, the Rooster has played terribly. It's 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.600 because they it's on the back of poor form and 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:38.600 their premiership defenders, so they are worthy of the scrutiny. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.440 But it's also like, yeah, they did have seven stars out, 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.000 but that was amateur our and they were never going 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.200 to get up against Souths with what was at stake 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.320 for Souths and what they were being motivated by. But 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.120 it really is puzzling at how little effort they're putting 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.120 in to make to do challenge teams. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.160 Let's stay in Brisbane, but let's go the reverse and 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.800 are positive The Dolt yes, quickly becoming the most favorite team. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.680 I love to watch each and every week. 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.520 They're full of speed, flamboyants, they play expands if they 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:07.920 play up all the old cliches, but they are. 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:12.560 Fun to watch. Are they are smoky for this year's premiership? 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:12.720 Oh? 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.160 I think they're definitely. Let's be honest, guys, this is 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.240 Penrith's world and we're all living in it. But if 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:20.240 there's someone that's going to challenge that, Dolphins definitely, if 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.480 they get into the top four, they absolutely can because 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.520 as much as They're playing enterprising, attacking, exciting football. Their 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.080 defense has been phenomenal as well. So they've turned around 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.160 whatever wasn't working, because they were looking really inconsistent and 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:32.320 poor in the start of the season. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.400 But I think they're now. Is it six straight wins, 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.640 that's an unbelievable form line. 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:38.840 That's the most formed team in the comp outside of 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.960 Penrith like they are playing really great footy Katoa's back 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.360 and form. I think it also shows that Ezy Katoa 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.320 is a champion player, because I'll be honest, he sucked 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:52.440 to start the season, dumb eras was getting overwhelmed, was 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:54.640 too slow with the ball. But he's a champion so 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.800 he's kind of followed in the footsteps of Nathan Cleary 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:58.760 and worked out his game, worked out how to lead 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:00.800 his team around the park. And you've seen the proof 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.360 in the pudding. The team are getting around him, the 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.520 team are running hard, they're defending brilliantly. Their fitness there 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.240 was through the roof good on the Dolphins. This is 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:08.680 awesome story. I want him in the top four. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.639 I'll tell you what, if they made the finals, and 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.320 we think that they will, it might have been top 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.520 four as you say, Sophie, they're a side that you 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.159 wouldn't want to play in the finals because you'd be 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:19.879 worried that if they turn up ready to go, they 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:20.359 could blow you. 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:20.920 Off the park. 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:21.560 Yeah. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.960 For me, they feel a bit like the Canberraiders last year. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.240 You know, they've got so much strike across the park. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.520 Like you said, they can turn it on from whenever. 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.960 You know, guys like Kirby have been in great form 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:32.640 all year. 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:33.480 I think. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.840 Jermaina Saco might be out for a couple of weeks 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.080 with a finger dislocation, which will be a huge loss 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:43.360