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Speaker 1: the news from The Australian. From the Australian, I'm Claire

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Speaker 1: Harvey a special bonus episode off the Front for you today.

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Speaker 1: New South Wales police have responded swiftly to a fresh

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Speaker 1: revelation in our investigation into the disappearance of mother of

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Speaker 1: from Headley Thomas that a new eyewitness claims to have

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Speaker 1: seen Bromwan's husband John driving with something that looked like

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Speaker 1: a body in the back of his car around the

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Speaker 1: time of her nineteen ninety three disappearance. In today's episode,

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Speaker 1: what the police are saying and how Bromwin's family and

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Speaker 1: our audience is responding to this big news.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with him?

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Speaker 1: That's the stunned emotional reaction of Andy Reid, the brother

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Speaker 1: of Bromwin Winfield, to startling new evidence presented in the

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Speaker 1: Australians investigation into this thirty one year old mystery.

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Speaker 3: This poor lady to go the to have to live

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Speaker 3: ninety three, and they discount, and they go and take

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Speaker 1: After three decades of frustration, sorrow and anger, Andy and

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Speaker 1: his wife Michelle have lots of questions, and so do

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Speaker 1: our listeners. What was in the back of John Winfield's

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Speaker 1: car on a late night drive in May nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: three after the disappearance of his wife, About other witness

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Speaker 1: Those are just some of the big questions raised by

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Speaker 1: our revelation thanks to Headley Thomas's podcast Bromwin, of fresh

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Speaker 1: eyewitness allegations that have never formed part of a police

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Speaker 1: we're going to dive in answering some of your questions

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Speaker 1: a little later in this episode, but first there's been

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Speaker 1: a rush of listeners to episode seven, released on Thursday evening.

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Speaker 4: This is the most important episode in the Bromwin podcast

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Speaker 4: series so far. It is going to disclose a major

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Speaker 4: new development in this investigation into Bromwin's disappearance. It is

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Speaker 4: so serious it should prompt Senior Detective Nigel Lawren or

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Speaker 4: another member of the Unsolved Homicide Unit in Sydney to

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Speaker 4: whom you'll hear shortly. Her name is Judy Singh. She

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Speaker 4: is sixty nine years old, a Korean nurse who retired

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Speaker 1: after the stories broke, police reached out to our National

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Speaker 1: Crime correspondent David Murray indicating they wanted to speak to

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Speaker 1: emailed Headley Thomas requesting Judy Sing's contact details, which Headley

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. So what have police been doing all these years?

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Speaker 1: Back in nineteen ninety three when Bromwin first disappeared, it

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Speaker 1: this big twist. If you have any information about Bromwyn

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Speaker 1: Winfield's disappearance, email Headley Thomas at Bromwyn at Beaustralian dot

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Speaker 1: The Winfield family's nineteen eighty seven Ford Falcon XF SADAN

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Speaker 1: the Claremont serial killings. In that case, forensic evidence was

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Speaker 1: When he got to Sydney, John showed Bromwyn's sister in law,

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Speaker 1: Winfield drive past her home with what she believes was

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