WEBVTT - How to biohack on a budget

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<v Speaker 1>Oh hello, welcome to healthy ishue your daily podcast from

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<v Speaker 1>Body and Soul. I am your host of Felicity Harley. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>are you into biohacking or do you watch with amusement

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<v Speaker 1>those tech billionaires doing bizarre things to boost their longevity. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>today we're going to help you buy a hack at home. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>our guest is going to make it accessible for all

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<v Speaker 1>of us, whatever your budget. I'm joining the studio by buyer,

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<v Speaker 1>hacker and nutritionist Camilla Thompson. She's going to discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>lucy world of biohacking and how you can hack your

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<v Speaker 1>health on a budget. Now, if you do like what

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<v Speaker 1>you hear from Camilla, I know you will listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Extra Healthy Ish, where she shares how she beat mold

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<v Speaker 1>toxicity with biohacks. You can grab our sister podcast, Extra

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<v Speaker 1>Healthy Ish wherever you get your podcasts. Camilla, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>health Ish.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, it's lovely to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>You are radiating good health.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I should I should do in the job that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in there. Yeah, tell us a bit about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a biohacking coach. What do you do? What is biohacking?

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<v Speaker 1>Fill us in?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So biohacking is about taking control of your health,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's hacking your biology and your environment to achieve

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<v Speaker 2>better long term health outcomes. So really sort of looking

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<v Speaker 2>at your health span and wanting that to equal your

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<v Speaker 2>life span. So how many years are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>be independent and healthy and strong and that's our health span,

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<v Speaker 2>so really important to focus on that. Essentially, biohacking is

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<v Speaker 2>just evidence based hacks that we can integrate into our

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<v Speaker 2>lives to help us live well longer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting because you simplified in many ways, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>about living a healthy, full life for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you can. But biohacking has a reputation that it's only

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<v Speaker 1>something for tech billionaires or very rich people. So talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us a bit about this and how the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of us can incorporate it into our daily lives without

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<v Speaker 1>dropping a bomb and going getting stem cell therapy and

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<v Speaker 1>Bermuna or Mexico or tie or they do you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're extreme biohackers, Yes, don't they?

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<v Speaker 2>And look at has become elitists, I think, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's something I think, particularly in the Australian media as well,

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<v Speaker 2>there's been a real focus on the sort of the

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<v Speaker 2>tech billionaires, millionaires that seem to have a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money and time on their hands, but also that connection

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<v Speaker 2>to the technology, which can polarize just us everyday people

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<v Speaker 2>who just want to find simple things to help us

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<v Speaker 2>feel better. So I think I'm here to hopefully bridge

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<v Speaker 2>that gap and bring some really simple, practical things that

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<v Speaker 2>people can do that have a big impact for longevity.

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<v Speaker 1>So really, I mean, it's semantics around the biohacking term,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it, because it really is just optimizing your health

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<v Speaker 1>using science to optimize your health absolutely, yea, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>doing these extreme things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or is that part of it as well? Look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's many things, and it's it's very similar to epigenetics,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're looking at how we can influence those genes

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<v Speaker 2>and what we turn on and off, and how that

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<v Speaker 2>is going to optimize our longevity and our health. So

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<v Speaker 2>there there's a whole spectrum with biohacking. And obviously we've

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<v Speaker 2>heard about the extremes. We've got the Brian Johnson who's

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<v Speaker 2>the same age as his son now, which is bizarre

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<v Speaker 2>and he's a very interesting character. You've got your Dave

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<v Speaker 2>aspri who sort of sits in the middle he's also

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<v Speaker 2>quite extreme, but very passionate about impacting and helping other

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<v Speaker 2>people to achieve a good good health.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually tell us a bit about Daves, but let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about him before we get your tips on how the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of us can do it, because I've long followed him.

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<v Speaker 1>I think since he's bulletproof coffee days, I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>was probably over a decade ago where you could add

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<v Speaker 1>butter to coffee to give you an extra boost, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>before exerciser in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, it's Look, I met Dave this year. I

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<v Speaker 2>went to his biohacking conference in Dallas and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a tenth annual one. So they've been doing this for

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. Over the last sort of five months, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been about six or seven by hacking conferences globally, so

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<v Speaker 2>this is a huge movement. But Australia we're just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of catching the wave at the moment and sort of yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not the early adopters when it comes to bio hacking,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. The US definitely got there before us.

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<v Speaker 2>But Dave is a super interesting guy. He's very passionate

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<v Speaker 2>about what he does. But yes, some of it is extreme,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think he takes around one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>sixties plus supplements a day, which is a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, and you know it's like a serial bowl

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<v Speaker 2>of supplements. But you know, he also you know what's controversial, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is he eats such a good diet. And I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>being a nutritionist and being a health coach for over

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<v Speaker 2>ten years, the Foundation and the Pillars of Good Health

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<v Speaker 2>is definitely nutrition. So I feel like, if you're eating

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<v Speaker 2>a really good diet, you probably don't need to take

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<v Speaker 2>that many supplements. Having said that, Dave is exposed to

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<v Speaker 2>all these incredible, amazing new things on the market, so

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<v Speaker 2>he's probably trying everything he can.

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<v Speaker 1>But just tell us the most interesting thing about that

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<v Speaker 1>conference or the most mind blowing thing that happened, because

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<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to go in one of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look was fascinating, and it was such an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>audience of people. I was thinking be a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>sort of bodybuilders and real fitness people, but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It was lots of really everyday people, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people with chronic health issues. So my whole journey into

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<v Speaker 2>BIA hacking was through I have a chronic health condition

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<v Speaker 2>from living in Mold, so Bia hacking has literally saved

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<v Speaker 2>my life and I'm in great health and that is

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<v Speaker 2>through everything that I've learned over the years on how

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<v Speaker 2>to heal myself. So Dave has a very similar story.

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<v Speaker 2>He lived in Mold and he used biohacking to get

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<v Speaker 2>himself well. So there was lots of people with chronic

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<v Speaker 2>health issues. There was dogs, there was kids, There was

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<v Speaker 2>like a whole crew from Burning Man. It was an

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<v Speaker 2>eclectic mix of people, that's for sure. Look, there were

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<v Speaker 2>some amazing speakers. I think Joe Despenser was incredible. Peter Crone,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Will Cole, who's an absolute legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we've got him coming up in the post.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. I love that man. He's fantastic. Hoping

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<v Speaker 2>to bring him and Dave to Australia next year actually

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<v Speaker 2>for a conference. And Gabby Bernstein, who was wonderful. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know what was interesting there was a big focus

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<v Speaker 2>on play and oxytocin and how that's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>keys to longevity and obviously that doesn't cost anything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So like, what are we doing in our lives as adults.

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<v Speaker 2>We've become so serious, How are we integrating more play

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<v Speaker 2>and love and sex and touch and fun and dancing

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<v Speaker 2>and music and all those things that really help with longevity.

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<v Speaker 2>So there were some many interesting science around that. Well

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<v Speaker 2>that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>You've just given us a good biohack there include more

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<v Speaker 1>play in your life. What else can we do? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean especially you know, so many of us are living

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<v Speaker 1>on in a budget. You know, we're watching how much

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<v Speaker 1>we spend. How can we bio hack in it? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how can we bring it the whole philosophy and ethos

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<v Speaker 1>into our daily lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look, I love to talk about biohacking on a

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<v Speaker 2>budget because we are We've got a cost of living crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're all feeling the pinch. Mortgages have gone up,

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of everything. Patrol's actually gone down recently, which

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<v Speaker 2>is awesome. But yeah, so I've got some really great

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<v Speaker 2>sort of signature hacks, which are all things that you

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<v Speaker 2>can do that don't really cost much money. So my

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<v Speaker 2>first one is my hashtag hydration hack. So hydration is

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<v Speaker 2>so important. Most of us are guzzling lots of water

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<v Speaker 2>all day, but we're not necessarily hydrating properly. So our

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<v Speaker 2>bodies are at you, made up of water and salt,

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<v Speaker 2>and so when we put a little bit of salt,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has to be a specific type of salt,

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<v Speaker 2>so Celtic sea salt or Himalayan. My preference is always

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<v Speaker 2>Celtic sea salt. This helps our in our water. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this helps ourselves to actually hydrate properly. So it's also

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<v Speaker 2>got lots of amazing minerals and electrolytes that we need naturally.

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<v Speaker 2>So I put a pinch of Celtic sea salt in

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<v Speaker 2>my water bottle every time I fill it up. When

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in Mold, I had severe dehydration because obviously

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<v Speaker 2>mold lives off all of the moisture in your body.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tried everything to try and hydrate and this

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<v Speaker 2>was the one thing that really worked for me. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like ten bucks a lastly three months. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>taste it?

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done this, not really.

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<v Speaker 2>You just do a bit of a pinch. I really

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<v Speaker 2>recommend it. And with everything biohacking, it's about experimentation and

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<v Speaker 2>bioindividuality and finding out what works for us. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>just try something for a month. If you feel better,

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<v Speaker 2>then keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give us another one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I've got four. So there's high hashag hydration

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<v Speaker 2>hack hashtag honey hack is a fantastic one, and Dave's

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<v Speaker 2>talked a little bit about this too and the science

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<v Speaker 2>behind it. But when we sleep at night, our brain

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<v Speaker 2>uses the glycogen from our liver, so our brain's actually

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<v Speaker 2>quite active. Even though we think we're knocked out, we're

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<v Speaker 2>actually not. There's still a lot going on. So if

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<v Speaker 2>we have a spoonful of honey, and again it comes

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<v Speaker 2>back to the quality of the honey, manuca is preferable

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<v Speaker 2>or raw unfiltered honey, This actually tricks the body and

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<v Speaker 2>the brain into thinking that's its glycogen. So rather than

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<v Speaker 2>using the liver from the glycogen, it uses the honey.

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<v Speaker 2>So it means we can get a much deeper, RESTful

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<v Speaker 2>sleep because the brain is using something else, not our body.

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<v Speaker 1>So just before you go to bit, yeah, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can before you clean your teeth, Yeah, before you gin

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<v Speaker 1>your teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you can do it after dinner, Like there's no

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<v Speaker 2>sort of set time, but just a spoonful of honey.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many other benefits as well. It's great for

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<v Speaker 2>your digestion, your gut health. So even after dinner, a

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<v Speaker 2>spoonful of honey to help you digest, which brings on

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<v Speaker 2>reaching for those chocolates A long yes. And also it

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<v Speaker 2>curbs that sweet that sweet tooth. But with everything it's equality,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's important that we using decent honey. We can't

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<v Speaker 2>just use the same with salt, not table salts. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be decent quality. And that sort of digestion

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<v Speaker 2>is another hack I've got as well. So just things

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<v Speaker 2>like fresh rocket before you eat your food really helps

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<v Speaker 2>to get those digestive juices going. Also, apple sided vinegar,

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<v Speaker 2>which a lot of us are quite familiar with, helps

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<v Speaker 2>with digestion. And things like digestive enzymes, probatics, probatics, not

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<v Speaker 2>drinking too much water whilst we eat, because that can

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<v Speaker 2>dilute some of our digestive juices.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to put these all in a book.

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<v Speaker 2>I am writing a book. There we go. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be published in June next year. You heard it

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<v Speaker 2>here first.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, Canilla, thank you for coming on healthy pleasure. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I might give the Celtic Sea salt water a go

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<v Speaker 1>and see how I feel after I start drinking salty water. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>at least see how it tastes, whether I can stomach it.

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<v Speaker 1>But what a handy little hack we can all do

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<v Speaker 1>in our day to buy a hack our way to

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<v Speaker 1>better health. Anyway, I hope you did enjoy this chat

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