Speaker 1: Oh hello, welcome to healthy ishue your daily podcast from
Speaker 1: Body and Soul. I am your host of Felicity Harley. Now,
Speaker 1: are you into biohacking or do you watch with amusement
Speaker 1: those tech billionaires doing bizarre things to boost their longevity. Well,
Speaker 1: today we're going to help you buy a hack at home. Yes,
Speaker 1: our guest is going to make it accessible for all
Speaker 1: of us, whatever your budget. I'm joining the studio by buyer,
Speaker 1: hacker and nutritionist Camilla Thompson. She's going to discuss the
Speaker 1: lucy world of biohacking and how you can hack your
Speaker 1: health on a budget. Now, if you do like what
Speaker 1: you hear from Camilla, I know you will listening to
Speaker 1: Extra Healthy Ish, where she shares how she beat mold
Speaker 1: toxicity with biohacks. You can grab our sister podcast, Extra
Speaker 1: Healthy Ish wherever you get your podcasts. Camilla, Welcome to
Speaker 1: health Ish.
Speaker 2: Thank you, it's lovely to be here.
Speaker 1: You are radiating good health.
Speaker 2: Well I should I should do in the job that
Speaker 2: I'm in there. Yeah, tell us a bit about that.
Speaker 1: You're a biohacking coach. What do you do? What is biohacking?
Speaker 1: Fill us in?
Speaker 2: Okay, So biohacking is about taking control of your health,
Speaker 2: so it's hacking your biology and your environment to achieve
Speaker 2: better long term health outcomes. So really sort of looking
Speaker 2: at your health span and wanting that to equal your
Speaker 2: life span. So how many years are we going to
Speaker 2: be independent and healthy and strong and that's our health span,
Speaker 2: so really important to focus on that. Essentially, biohacking is
Speaker 2: just evidence based hacks that we can integrate into our
Speaker 2: lives to help us live well longer.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because you simplified in many ways, it's just
Speaker 1: about living a healthy, full life for as long as
Speaker 1: you can. But biohacking has a reputation that it's only
Speaker 1: something for tech billionaires or very rich people. So talk
Speaker 1: to us a bit about this and how the rest
Speaker 1: of us can incorporate it into our daily lives without
Speaker 1: dropping a bomb and going getting stem cell therapy and
Speaker 1: Bermuna or Mexico or tie or they do you know
Speaker 1: they're extreme biohackers, Yes, don't they?
Speaker 2: And look at has become elitists, I think, and that's
Speaker 2: that's something I think, particularly in the Australian media as well,
Speaker 2: there's been a real focus on the sort of the
Speaker 2: tech billionaires, millionaires that seem to have a lot of
Speaker 2: money and time on their hands, but also that connection
Speaker 2: to the technology, which can polarize just us everyday people
Speaker 2: who just want to find simple things to help us
Speaker 2: feel better. So I think I'm here to hopefully bridge
Speaker 2: that gap and bring some really simple, practical things that
Speaker 2: people can do that have a big impact for longevity.
Speaker 1: So really, I mean, it's semantics around the biohacking term,
Speaker 1: isn't it, because it really is just optimizing your health
Speaker 1: using science to optimize your health absolutely, yea, rather than
Speaker 1: doing these extreme things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or is that part of it as well? Look,
Speaker 2: it's it's many things, and it's it's very similar to epigenetics,
Speaker 2: so we're looking at how we can influence those genes
Speaker 2: and what we turn on and off, and how that
Speaker 2: is going to optimize our longevity and our health. So
Speaker 2: there there's a whole spectrum with biohacking. And obviously we've
Speaker 2: heard about the extremes. We've got the Brian Johnson who's
Speaker 2: the same age as his son now, which is bizarre
Speaker 2: and he's a very interesting character. You've got your Dave
Speaker 2: aspri who sort of sits in the middle he's also
Speaker 2: quite extreme, but very passionate about impacting and helping other
Speaker 2: people to achieve a good good health.
Speaker 1: Actually tell us a bit about Daves, but let's talk
Speaker 1: about him before we get your tips on how the
Speaker 1: rest of us can do it, because I've long followed him.
Speaker 1: I think since he's bulletproof coffee days, I mean that
Speaker 1: was probably over a decade ago where you could add
Speaker 1: butter to coffee to give you an extra boost, yeah,
Speaker 1: before exerciser in the morning.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's Look, I met Dave this year. I
Speaker 2: went to his biohacking conference in Dallas and it was
Speaker 2: a tenth annual one. So they've been doing this for
Speaker 2: ten years. Over the last sort of five months, it's
Speaker 2: been about six or seven by hacking conferences globally, so
Speaker 2: this is a huge movement. But Australia we're just sort
Speaker 2: of catching the wave at the moment and sort of yeah,
Speaker 2: we're not the early adopters when it comes to bio hacking,
Speaker 2: that's for sure. The US definitely got there before us.
Speaker 2: But Dave is a super interesting guy. He's very passionate
Speaker 2: about what he does. But yes, some of it is extreme,
Speaker 2: you know, I think he takes around one hundred and
Speaker 2: sixties plus supplements a day, which is a lot to
Speaker 2: do that, and you know it's like a serial bowl
Speaker 2: of supplements. But you know, he also you know what's controversial, though,
Speaker 2: is he eats such a good diet. And I'm really
Speaker 2: being a nutritionist and being a health coach for over
Speaker 2: ten years, the Foundation and the Pillars of Good Health
Speaker 2: is definitely nutrition. So I feel like, if you're eating
Speaker 2: a really good diet, you probably don't need to take
Speaker 2: that many supplements. Having said that, Dave is exposed to
Speaker 2: all these incredible, amazing new things on the market, so
Speaker 2: he's probably trying everything he can.
Speaker 1: But just tell us the most interesting thing about that
Speaker 1: conference or the most mind blowing thing that happened, because
Speaker 1: I would have loved to go in one of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look was fascinating, and it was such an interesting
Speaker 2: audience of people. I was thinking be a lot of
Speaker 2: sort of bodybuilders and real fitness people, but it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It was lots of really everyday people, a lot of
Speaker 2: people with chronic health issues. So my whole journey into
Speaker 2: BIA hacking was through I have a chronic health condition
Speaker 2: from living in Mold, so Bia hacking has literally saved
Speaker 2: my life and I'm in great health and that is
Speaker 2: through everything that I've learned over the years on how
Speaker 2: to heal myself. So Dave has a very similar story.
Speaker 2: He lived in Mold and he used biohacking to get
Speaker 2: himself well. So there was lots of people with chronic
Speaker 2: health issues. There was dogs, there was kids, There was
Speaker 2: like a whole crew from Burning Man. It was an
Speaker 2: eclectic mix of people, that's for sure. Look, there were
Speaker 2: some amazing speakers. I think Joe Despenser was incredible. Peter Crone,
Speaker 2: doctor Will Cole, who's an absolute legend.
Speaker 1: Oh we've got him coming up in the post.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I love that man. He's fantastic. Hoping
Speaker 2: to bring him and Dave to Australia next year actually
Speaker 2: for a conference. And Gabby Bernstein, who was wonderful. But
Speaker 2: you know what was interesting there was a big focus
Speaker 2: on play and oxytocin and how that's one of the
Speaker 2: keys to longevity and obviously that doesn't cost anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So like, what are we doing in our lives as adults.
Speaker 2: We've become so serious, How are we integrating more play
Speaker 2: and love and sex and touch and fun and dancing
Speaker 2: and music and all those things that really help with longevity.
Speaker 2: So there were some many interesting science around that. Well
Speaker 2: that's good.
Speaker 1: You've just given us a good biohack there include more
Speaker 1: play in your life. What else can we do? I
Speaker 1: mean especially you know, so many of us are living
Speaker 1: on in a budget. You know, we're watching how much
Speaker 1: we spend. How can we bio hack in it? Well,
Speaker 1: how can we bring it the whole philosophy and ethos
Speaker 1: into our daily lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I love to talk about biohacking on a
Speaker 2: budget because we are We've got a cost of living crisis.
Speaker 2: You know, we're all feeling the pinch. Mortgages have gone up,
Speaker 2: the cost of everything. Patrol's actually gone down recently, which
Speaker 2: is awesome. But yeah, so I've got some really great
Speaker 2: sort of signature hacks, which are all things that you
Speaker 2: can do that don't really cost much money. So my
Speaker 2: first one is my hashtag hydration hack. So hydration is
Speaker 2: so important. Most of us are guzzling lots of water
Speaker 2: all day, but we're not necessarily hydrating properly. So our
Speaker 2: bodies are at you, made up of water and salt,
Speaker 2: and so when we put a little bit of salt,
Speaker 2: and it has to be a specific type of salt,
Speaker 2: so Celtic sea salt or Himalayan. My preference is always
Speaker 2: Celtic sea salt. This helps our in our water. Yes,
Speaker 2: this helps ourselves to actually hydrate properly. So it's also
Speaker 2: got lots of amazing minerals and electrolytes that we need naturally.
Speaker 2: So I put a pinch of Celtic sea salt in
Speaker 2: my water bottle every time I fill it up. When
Speaker 2: I lived in Mold, I had severe dehydration because obviously
Speaker 2: mold lives off all of the moisture in your body.
Speaker 2: And I tried everything to try and hydrate and this
Speaker 2: was the one thing that really worked for me. And
Speaker 2: it's like ten bucks a lastly three months. Can you
Speaker 2: taste it?
Speaker 1: I've never done this, not really.
Speaker 2: You just do a bit of a pinch. I really
Speaker 2: recommend it. And with everything biohacking, it's about experimentation and
Speaker 2: bioindividuality and finding out what works for us. But yeah,
Speaker 2: just try something for a month. If you feel better,
Speaker 2: then keep going.
Speaker 1: Just give us another one.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I've got four. So there's high hashag hydration
Speaker 2: hack hashtag honey hack is a fantastic one, and Dave's
Speaker 2: talked a little bit about this too and the science
Speaker 2: behind it. But when we sleep at night, our brain
Speaker 2: uses the glycogen from our liver, so our brain's actually
Speaker 2: quite active. Even though we think we're knocked out, we're
Speaker 2: actually not. There's still a lot going on. So if
Speaker 2: we have a spoonful of honey, and again it comes
Speaker 2: back to the quality of the honey, manuca is preferable
Speaker 2: or raw unfiltered honey, This actually tricks the body and
Speaker 2: the brain into thinking that's its glycogen. So rather than
Speaker 2: using the liver from the glycogen, it uses the honey.
Speaker 2: So it means we can get a much deeper, RESTful
Speaker 2: sleep because the brain is using something else, not our body.
Speaker 1: So just before you go to bit, yeah, so you
Speaker 1: can before you clean your teeth, Yeah, before you gin
Speaker 1: your teeth.
Speaker 2: Oh, you can do it after dinner, Like there's no
Speaker 2: sort of set time, but just a spoonful of honey.
Speaker 2: There's so many other benefits as well. It's great for
Speaker 2: your digestion, your gut health. So even after dinner, a
Speaker 2: spoonful of honey to help you digest, which brings on
Speaker 2: reaching for those chocolates A long yes. And also it
Speaker 2: curbs that sweet that sweet tooth. But with everything it's equality,
Speaker 2: so it's important that we using decent honey. We can't
Speaker 2: just use the same with salt, not table salts. It's
Speaker 2: got to be decent quality. And that sort of digestion
Speaker 2: is another hack I've got as well. So just things
Speaker 2: like fresh rocket before you eat your food really helps
Speaker 2: to get those digestive juices going. Also, apple sided vinegar,
Speaker 2: which a lot of us are quite familiar with, helps
Speaker 2: with digestion. And things like digestive enzymes, probatics, probatics, not
Speaker 2: drinking too much water whilst we eat, because that can
Speaker 2: dilute some of our digestive juices.
Speaker 1: You need to put these all in a book.
Speaker 2: I am writing a book. There we go. It's going
Speaker 2: to be published in June next year. You heard it
Speaker 2: here first.
Speaker 1: There we go, Canilla, thank you for coming on healthy pleasure. Well,
Speaker 1: I might give the Celtic Sea salt water a go
Speaker 1: and see how I feel after I start drinking salty water. Well,
Speaker 1: at least see how it tastes, whether I can stomach it.
Speaker 1: But what a handy little hack we can all do
Speaker 1: in our day to buy a hack our way to
Speaker 1: better health. Anyway, I hope you did enjoy this chat
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