Speaker 1: Late Welcome to the late Base.
Speaker 2: Well, good evening, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Joe Hildebrand. Coming
Speaker 3: up a Victorian golfer donz a wig and address in
Speaker 3: order to claim discounted fees for women.
Speaker 2: Will show you how that goes a little later. Plus,
Speaker 2: when we.
Speaker 3: Look at the papers, a new report showing carbon offset
Speaker 3: credits rarely do much good at all and Gold Coast
Speaker 3: unit owners are upset because they're going to be taxed
Speaker 3: according to their view. All of that when we look
Speaker 3: at the papers. But first, the behavior of New South
Speaker 3: Wales politicians is evidently so bad they'll be forced to
Speaker 3: undergo anti bullying and anti harassment training.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: The mandated training comes after a report found that a
Speaker 3: quarter of parliamentary staff had expressed had experienced bullying and
Speaker 3: harassment at work. The government's already spent a million dollars
Speaker 3: on consultants and training to try to change workplace behavior,
Speaker 3: and this new training course is part of fifteen million
Speaker 3: dollars they're investing over the next four years to try
Speaker 3: to get New South Wales parliamentarians and their staff to
Speaker 3: behave better that they'd spend that much money on an
Speaker 3: economics course or something like that.
Speaker 2: But Joe and Liz, this raises questions for me.
Speaker 3: Firstly, are parliamentarians behaving that badly that we need to
Speaker 3: spend fifteen million dollars.
Speaker 2: To improve their conduct?
Speaker 3: And if it is that bad, then is a training
Speaker 3: course really going to change things? But I've got one
Speaker 3: more question about this story. A lot of anti bullying
Speaker 3: is often just another form of bullying in disguise. And
Speaker 3: I do note that MPs can't actually be forced to
Speaker 3: do this training because what are they going to do?
Speaker 2: Tell them they're out.
Speaker 3: They've been elected by voters. But the New South Wales
Speaker 3: Parliament have said they will monitor attendance and they will
Speaker 3: note non compliance, which Liz sounds to me kind of
Speaker 3: like bullying.
Speaker 1: Well, last question is who the heck are these people.
Speaker 1: We've elected them to make very important decisions on behalf
Speaker 1: of us, on behalf of the entire state of New
Speaker 1: South Wales and they can't even get it together at work,
Speaker 1: if the Broaderick Report is to be believed. And that's
Speaker 1: why they're taking these measures, because back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: Two, the Broaderick Report was very damning.
Speaker 1: Like you say, over record on the people who were
Speaker 1: anonymously asked for feedback said, yes, I've experienced bullying and
Speaker 1: harassment and sexism is far more commonplace here than we'd
Speaker 1: like it to be. So firstly, this seems to be
Speaker 1: quite a late reaction. I mean, last year they introduced
Speaker 1: the Respected Work program, only twenty three out of the
Speaker 1: ninety three MPs have attended their Respect at Work indoctrination.
Speaker 1: And now we're being told that this course is mandatory,
Speaker 1: but they have no way of forcing anyone to attend it.
Speaker 1: So this just seems like a tick the box. We
Speaker 1: must be seen to address this problem. And of course
Speaker 1: we all know that you know, an hour an hour
Speaker 1: and a half course it can and will change someone's character.
Speaker 1: If they didn't know that this behavior was inappropriate previously,
Speaker 1: they will once they sat through this course. That's been
Speaker 1: the only problem. They just didn't know it was wrong.
Speaker 1: The course will tell.
Speaker 5: Them it's wrong, and then I'm sure they'll cut it out.
Speaker 1: And that is how many million dollars fifteen million dollars
Speaker 1: over the next four years of our taxpayer dollar well spent,
Speaker 1: like we don't pay them enough to be abject failures.
Speaker 1: Now we've got to pay out another fifteen million more
Speaker 1: just to be like, can you behave yourself?
Speaker 4: Then they respectful failures.
Speaker 3: If the course is that, If the course is that good,
Speaker 3: they should run it in Gaza.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The thing is, if you don't actually know that bullying
Speaker 6: is bad, or you don't know that sexual harassment is bad,
Speaker 6: it is very unlike that of course is going to
Speaker 6: do anything. They should just say look if you get
Speaker 6: if you get busted sexually harassing someone, we're leaking it
Speaker 6: to the Daily Telegraph. Every MP would say right, never
Speaker 6: touching anyone ever again, or the.
Speaker 1: Daily Telegraph would be very busy.
Speaker 4: But there's a couple of things we are on the
Speaker 4: lookout for. It an'ty worry.
Speaker 6: I once, in a much much older incarnation of the
Speaker 6: New South VAL's government, I once figured out that you
Speaker 6: were twice as likely to be a sex abuser if
Speaker 6: you're in the New South Wales government cabinet that you
Speaker 6: were in the general community. But that was a particular
Speaker 6: low point for a former government.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 4: But there's two things.
Speaker 6: I mean, one is it depends when you're looking at
Speaker 6: the prevalence of something like this, it depends on two things.
Speaker 6: One is the number of people who are actually doing
Speaker 6: it and how often they're doing it. The other is,
Speaker 6: of course how sensitive the respondents toy survey are. So
Speaker 6: if you define something broadly enough, and there was a
Speaker 6: previous survey that was done and a very you know,
Speaker 6: you know, earnest and well intentioned survey, and I know
Speaker 6: the person who did it. But like sexual harassment university
Speaker 6: and on campus, right, And it turns out that this
Speaker 6: also included commuting on the way to campus, and that
Speaker 6: examples of unwelcome behavior which was counter as sexual harassment
Speaker 6: was looking for someone looking at someone too long, staring
Speaker 6: at something too long on a train, so you could
Speaker 6: be on your train on the way to UNI, so
Speaker 6: a complete stranger who's not going to UNI stares at
Speaker 6: you and you don't like it, and then that gets
Speaker 6: counted as an incident of sexual harassment on campus or whatever.
Speaker 4: So there's that. So this brings us to the ABC.
Speaker 6: The ABC, if we are to be told, I think
Speaker 6: Paul raised it in the show before Ours, is a
Speaker 6: hotbed of racism and sexual harassment. Now I wait to
Speaker 6: believe that the ABC, of all organizations, is a place
Speaker 6: where racism and sexual harassment runs rampant or as an
Speaker 6: organization whose employees would be highly highly attuned to the
Speaker 6: slightest suggestion of sexual harassment racism, so that becomes overrepresented.
Speaker 6: The other thing with this thing, as I think you
Speaker 6: alluded to before, it means if you have a framework
Speaker 6: like this, it means it can very very quickly be
Speaker 6: weaponized to get rid of your political enemies. And guess
Speaker 6: which building has more political enemies all under the same
Speaker 6: roof than anywhere else in the entire state. That's right,
Speaker 6: it's Parliament House. And so again, you know someone I
Speaker 6: know very well, waltz Accord, a very senior figure in
Speaker 6: the Labor Party who was basically instrumental in getting Chris
Speaker 6: Mins elected to the leadership of the Parliamentary Party and
Speaker 6: winning the last election. I'm very little doubt in my
Speaker 6: mind that had that not happened, we would still be
Speaker 6: a Liberal state government in Macquarie Street. And he had
Speaker 6: an allegation of bullying leveled against him and was basically
Speaker 6: forced to fall on his sword or chose to so
Speaker 6: it didn't means chances I'm very noble, and that basically
Speaker 6: amounted to him I think shouting at a former leader's
Speaker 6: staff member and of course, the former leader being the
Speaker 6: one who he'd replaced with Chris min So maybe it
Speaker 6: was absolutely horrific, or maybe it was just a bit
Speaker 6: of payback.
Speaker 3: Well to a couple of your points, some of those
Speaker 3: who reported they'd experienced harassment and bullying, they also reported
Speaker 3: they experienced and I don't know what this means live
Speaker 3: everyday sexism as opposed to every other day sexism.
Speaker 5: Not really sure.
Speaker 3: And of the twenty three that did the respect for
Speaker 3: Work course that you alluded to earlier, how many of
Speaker 3: you reckon? How many of those do you think were
Speaker 3: people that weren't showing respect? Or did they do the
Speaker 3: course on respect because they are respectful people.
Speaker 2: I should actually do this course.
Speaker 5: A night certificate. I framed it the people's.
Speaker 2: Cleeding for the people that don't do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Indeed to the UK now where a group called Free
Speaker 1: Speech Brighton, which is a free speech group in Brighton,
Speaker 1: as their name suggests, have been thrown our of a pub.
Speaker 5: Here's the scene.
Speaker 1: They have hired a back room in this pub in
Speaker 1: order to hold one of their meetings. They bring along
Speaker 1: a little microphone and a little speaker.
Speaker 5: They're mining their own business. They're in the back room.
Speaker 1: Three speeches are planned and the first lady gets up
Speaker 1: speaks for fifteen minutes. She's a retired teacher in her fifties,
Speaker 1: and she's talking about the fact that I don't think
Speaker 1: gender ideology, this idea that you can be one thing
Speaker 1: one day and another thing the other day.
Speaker 5: Should be taught to school children. She also asserted the
Speaker 5: argument that parents should.
Speaker 1: Be able to ask what their children are being taught
Speaker 1: in sex education and asked to be availed of the
Speaker 1: materials that are.
Speaker 5: Being given to their children.
Speaker 1: Well, then it was question and answer time when suddenly
Speaker 1: five security guards entered the room and this pandemonium ensued.
Speaker 4: Bring doesn't wants to complain from the management.
Speaker 5: Anyone refusing is now trespassing. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind these are perfectly legal beliefs. In fact,
Speaker 1: the former UK government during their tenure published a paper
Speaker 1: saying that schools shouldn't be teaching any kind of controversial
Speaker 1: gender theory to school children. So did this manager of
Speaker 1: the pub have a leg to stand on legally?
Speaker 5: We're told, and indeed.
Speaker 1: This free speech group has been told bi legal experts.
Speaker 1: I believe they will be pursuing what's What's happened in
Speaker 1: the courts that these guys don't have a leg to
Speaker 1: stand on, that this is exactly the same as ejecting
Speaker 1: someone from your parb or restaurant or whatever else you
Speaker 1: own because you don't like the color of someone's skin.
Speaker 1: These guys were literally ousted out of the pub by
Speaker 1: the way they refuse to leave until they'd finished their bevies.
Speaker 5: How English can you get?
Speaker 1: And they told the security guards to tell management that
Speaker 1: the next two speakers were on entirely unrelated topics. Note
Speaker 1: still thrown out onto the street for the crime of wanting.
Speaker 5: To protect young people from what everyone.
Speaker 1: Who knows the stats on this believes to be very
Speaker 1: much a social contagion, given the numbers, the burgeoning numbers
Speaker 1: of LGBTIQ people, especially in the younger age groups in
Speaker 1: the UK.
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering when they booked the room, do you
Speaker 3: think they booked it under the name free speech Brighton,
Speaker 3: and so that the pub owner those this is a
Speaker 3: group committed to free speech, I'm about to evict them.
Speaker 3: I actually am sympathetic to the rights of people to
Speaker 3: have the customers that they choose, but if you're going
Speaker 3: to have discrimination laws they've got to apply equally. Could
Speaker 3: you imagine the outrage if a group were in the
Speaker 3: back room talking about the need for gay rights and
Speaker 3: they were evicted by a Christian publican.
Speaker 6: Imagine a pub that said no gay people allowed. Yeah, indeed, sorry,
Speaker 6: it's a private premises. We have the right to evict
Speaker 6: you by because we don't like what you are, what
Speaker 6: you think, or what you say.
Speaker 3: So these people are not only expressing perfectly legitimate views,
Speaker 3: but as you said, Liz, these were views that only
Speaker 3: a short time ago were being espoused by the UK.
Speaker 4: Gunn.
Speaker 6: I think it's irrelevant whether the views are legitimate or
Speaker 6: backed up by evidence or whatever. The question is, okay,
Speaker 6: are they are they legally able to be held, not
Speaker 6: where they're right or not, but are they illegal?
Speaker 4: So you know, you can't book a back room and
Speaker 4: say all right, everybody kill all the Jews, right, that
Speaker 4: doesn't work.
Speaker 6: But you know, if you're actually say well, I'm not
Speaker 6: sure this isn't right for schools, think they could be
Speaker 6: on pretty flimsy, flimsy ground. I think it would be difficult,
Speaker 6: certainly very difficult to do that in Australia. I would
Speaker 6: have thought if our being disruptive or rowdy, you know,
Speaker 6: before they had their beloved microphone stand taken away by
Speaker 6: the boutside.
Speaker 4: They didn't look like they had, but it didn't seem
Speaker 4: so that.
Speaker 6: I mean, they looked like that, you know, they'd struggled
Speaker 6: to be rowdy with all the rheumatoid arth rights going around.
Speaker 6: So I thought, I thought this was really a lesson
Speaker 6: in what not to do in terms of good solid
Speaker 6: brad management. And the fact even the fact that the whole,
Speaker 6: the whole sort of fig leaf of respectability. Oh there's
Speaker 6: been a complaint we have too from or the manager.
Speaker 4: So the manager complained to himself.
Speaker 6: I did the manager, like Lodger, go to their website
Speaker 6: and you know, I mean.
Speaker 4: He had to be here the already.
Speaker 6: Clearly the management sort of thought I'd better dress this
Speaker 6: up as something it's not, and the security guards, unfortunately,
Speaker 6: were The.
Speaker 3: Other thing I like about this story is committed free
Speaker 3: speech and all right, we won't finish our speeches, but
Speaker 3: we will finish our beers.
Speaker 4: Committed to free beer, go above and beyond.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 6: So the other thing that happened in the UK is
Speaker 6: that Trafalgar Square has quote unquote gone and woke as
Speaker 6: a fourth plinth was taken over by artwork aiming to
Speaker 6: quote unite the trans community around the world. I have
Speaker 6: to tell you, I do not understand anything about this story.
Speaker 6: I do not understand why there is a plinth that
Speaker 6: is going to unite the trans community and how that
Speaker 6: is actually going to work. How is it going to
Speaker 6: unite the transmitnion around the world. But it's just sitting
Speaker 6: there like a box in Trafalgar Square.
Speaker 5: An ugly boss.
Speaker 1: Well, this is objectively.
Speaker 6: Serious building in the Rocks in Sydney. It looks like
Speaker 6: some kind of weird you know, they're militarian stalinists.
Speaker 3: That there's hundreds of masks taken from transgendered people, half
Speaker 3: of them from London and the other half from Mexico.
Speaker 4: I do not understand. But why I just London in Mexico.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Either, except that it's all in preparation for what do
Speaker 3: they call it, It's Transgender Day of Remembrance, which is
Speaker 3: coming up where people remember those who have been killed
Speaker 3: because of being transgendered. That The trouble, however, is that,
Speaker 3: according to Statistica, which is a online platform that collates
Speaker 3: data from around the world in all manner, of subjects.
Speaker 3: There was one person transgendered who was murdered in the
Speaker 3: UK in twenty twenty three. There were fifty two transgendered
Speaker 3: people murdered in Mexico in twenty twenty three. So I
Speaker 3: think part of it is, you go, if you're going
Speaker 3: to have a transgender day of remembrance, but only one
Speaker 3: person is to be remembered, I need to combine it
Speaker 3: with something else to make it a little bit of
Speaker 3: a bigger issue.
Speaker 6: I think, Like again, it just seemed very strange where
Speaker 6: people and it's a bit like again, it's kind of
Speaker 6: like a sort of Quiers of Palestine, you know, it's
Speaker 6: kind of like protesting against the inj in Mexico in
Speaker 6: the place that is the least unjust compared to the
Speaker 6: place where it's actually happened the most.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: I know, it might be more dangerous to protest, but again.
Speaker 6: Why why are you sort of telling Londoners about this
Speaker 6: terrible thing?
Speaker 2: Correct?
Speaker 6: In fact, surely the true target should be Armlow, the
Speaker 6: president of Mexico.
Speaker 3: Well, total numbers of transgender people killed in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: according to Forbes magazine, was three hundred and twenty. At
Speaker 3: three hundred and twenty worldwide. One was murdered in the UK,
Speaker 3: which would make the UK one of the safest places
Speaker 3: on earth for transgendered people. The artwork was put together
Speaker 3: by a transgendered Mexican artist to celebrate a transgender sex
Speaker 3: worker who was or not celebrate to memorialize a transgender
Speaker 3: sex worker who was murdered in Mexico almost ten years ago.
Speaker 3: So that's the display and it's designed to disintegrate. Interestingly enough,
Speaker 3: the masks are specifically designed so over the month or
Speaker 3: so that they're on display, it's going.
Speaker 5: To be bits flying around trafalgus.
Speaker 3: And that kind of makes the point of, you know,
Speaker 3: transgendered rights being trampled on and being destroyed.
Speaker 6: So that was going to say this was a prefat story,
Speaker 6: So there's actually.
Speaker 2: What are those marks?
Speaker 5: Because if there's a mod.
Speaker 1: And they're going to be defuriating and people are going
Speaker 1: to be breathing it in in Trafalgar Square, you really
Speaker 1: know my soap box. The former Plint was tipping the
Speaker 1: hat to the history of colonialism in Africa. So I'm
Speaker 1: getting the vibe from whoever gets to decide which next
Speaker 1: Plint is going to be unveiled in Trafalgar Square. It's
Speaker 1: always going to be virtue signaling and also just reminding
Speaker 1: the public, not not just people in London, because people
Speaker 1: come from all around the world world to check out
Speaker 1: Trafalgar Square, but reminding them all of we are well
Speaker 1: aware of our colonialist pass and we are well aware
Speaker 1: of the LGBTQ, and we are well aware who knows
Speaker 1: what next years will be the.
Speaker 3: Only reason they're able to do this is because when
Speaker 3: these prints were first put in Trafalgar Square, three of
Speaker 3: them have statues attached to the pedestals, but the.
Speaker 2: Fourth one actually ran out of money.
Speaker 3: It was meant to be a horse celebrating William the
Speaker 3: Fourth but they ran out of money, and so for
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty years it just sat vacant. And
Speaker 3: then they decided, let's have a rolling sort of display.
Speaker 2: People.
Speaker 6: It's like an answer to our response to all the
Speaker 6: big giants sort of colonialists or imperialists sort of. So
Speaker 6: I don't mind that at all. I don't even really
Speaker 6: mind this thing. It just it just seems weird. Well,
Speaker 6: so often the outrage is misdirected.
Speaker 1: Oh incredibly, and so many of the MPs had argued
Speaker 1: that this plint should be dedicated to Queen Elizabeth because
Speaker 1: that it was a really prominent space, obviously a very
Speaker 1: beloved monarch in England. But nope, the transmasks that are
Speaker 1: going to deteriorate.
Speaker 6: Dedicated to Harry and Meghan for all their services to spotify.
Speaker 2: You know what they should have in retrospect.
Speaker 4: Leave it like it is.
Speaker 3: I really like the transgender But talking about people being
Speaker 3: outraged over silly things, people in Mossman are outraged over
Speaker 3: plans to build a multi story mansion on a vacant
Speaker 3: block of harbourside land. Now the issue with this block
Speaker 3: of land is there's no access from the road, so
Speaker 3: to get the building materials on site is quite problematic. Now,
Speaker 3: the owners had negotiated with counsel about using cranes, but
Speaker 3: for some reason the council said no, we don't want
Speaker 3: cranes anywhere near this. So the owners said, well, we
Speaker 3: are absolutely committed to building our dream home. We will
Speaker 3: get people to bring in all of the building materials
Speaker 3: by hand. Well, this is absolutely annoyed local neighbors who
Speaker 3: say it's going to disrupt their neighborhood. People would be
Speaker 3: traveling on public land to bring through the materials but
Speaker 3: one local resident, Peter Ritchie, he called it ridiculous and ludicrous.
Speaker 2: He told local media the idea that.
Speaker 3: Building materials for a four story structure can be delivered
Speaker 3: to this site by hand is ludicrous in the extreme.
Speaker 3: This is an extremely difficult site to access and build
Speaker 3: upon due to its steepness and lack of direct street access.
Speaker 3: That's why it hasn't been attempted in over one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty five years. Well, I'm just wondering if Peter
Speaker 3: Richie's heard of, you know, the Pyramids or the Great
Speaker 3: Wall of China. This is amazing that they're going to
Speaker 3: build this home. You can see the pictures on your screen.
Speaker 3: They're going to build that and do so by bringing
Speaker 3: all of the material required by hand.
Speaker 2: I think they should be applauded.
Speaker 6: I reckon I could do it, not opposed. I'm sure
Speaker 6: they could do it brick by brick like this.
Speaker 1: That's literally what they're suggesting to do a major architectural
Speaker 1: feet But they're up for it, so why not let
Speaker 1: them do it. Besides, they had planned end to have
Speaker 1: a crane delivered so that the crane could just swing
Speaker 1: on down bring the materials needed to the site.
Speaker 5: The council advised, we're not going to give you the
Speaker 5: thumbs up for that.
Speaker 1: So now these guys are like, well, on the advice
Speaker 1: of counsel, who's probably going to turn them down anyway,
Speaker 1: Because for those of you who don't live in New
Speaker 1: South Wales, the whole point of living in Mossman is
Speaker 1: to separate yourselves from the great unwashed.
Speaker 5: They hate all new development.
Speaker 1: In fact, the last time we were discussing was the
Speaker 1: mayor over there was saying, remember when they had their.
Speaker 4: Housing I was about to bring that up.
Speaker 6: Bossman has been so compared to say Blacktown, right, which
Speaker 6: is a great middle grade westerns They had a housing
Speaker 6: target of more than twenty thousand new homes over the
Speaker 6: next five years.
Speaker 4: They are currently beating that target.
Speaker 6: Mosso in black Town had a housing target of just
Speaker 6: one hundred, one hundred new.
Speaker 2: Homes a year, and how were they going?
Speaker 6: And last year I believe they built sixteen And so
Speaker 6: they cannot even they cannot even do the most basic
Speaker 6: stuff to actually get people houses, even their own. Remember,
Speaker 6: and yet somehow this thing has snuck through. They say,
Speaker 6: oh yeah, this side looks all right, this fantastic, It
Speaker 6: is just amazing. Not only do they block houses Mossman.
Speaker 6: There was a complaint about children playing in the backyard
Speaker 6: from one Mossman resident. They complained and tried to get
Speaker 6: a bowls club shut down because it was too loud
Speaker 6: on afternoons where they had the kids jumping castle.
Speaker 4: They also took assue with a trivia night and.
Speaker 6: Best of all, in the middle of COVID they actually
Speaker 6: objected to, residents objected to, and the council shut it down.
Speaker 6: Mossman's only COVID testing clinic, only mobile type.
Speaker 4: What did they act to that?
Speaker 6: We would rather die, We would rather die than have
Speaker 6: beautiful quiet.
Speaker 2: What was the objective?
Speaker 4: Too much traffic?
Speaker 1: Traffic, So for all the rest of the plans not
Speaker 1: here in Mossman.
Speaker 3: We do not really but if someone in the home,
Speaker 3: they probably would have dubbed on them.
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, yeah, yeah, that would we. Well, the.
Speaker 6: Neighbors who complained about the children playing in the backyard,
Speaker 6: that was during lockdowns. So they were complaining about the lockdowns,
Speaker 6: complaining about the testing, complaining about the children on both
Speaker 6: the jumping castle and in the backyard, and shut down
Speaker 6: the testing center. And now they have built just sixteen
Speaker 6: out of one hundred annual housing new housing development targets
Speaker 6: compared to blacktowns more than four thousand over the same period.
Speaker 4: And this is the house that they reckon. Is okay,
Speaker 4: they have much.
Speaker 5: To worry about. There is no way any council who wants.
Speaker 1: To be re elected in Bosman is going to give
Speaker 1: the green ticks.
Speaker 2: It's the other thing with this.
Speaker 3: This is not going to help alleviate the housing crisis
Speaker 3: because how many years do you think it's going to
Speaker 3: take them just to get all the building material on site?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well, it's also not going to alleviate the
Speaker 1: housing crisis because it's Batsman.
Speaker 5: Yes, sing will.
Speaker 1: Sell for god knows how many millions if and when
Speaker 1: it's ever completed, and I don't imagine that it would
Speaker 1: be housing more than a handful of people anyway. Moving
Speaker 1: on to Catholic school formals, there's been a staush as
Speaker 1: a group of Catholic schools have.
Speaker 5: Decided that you can no longer bring a date to
Speaker 5: your formal.
Speaker 1: Now they're being accused of making this move due to
Speaker 1: one student in one of these Catholic schools bringing along
Speaker 1: her lesbian date. So they said, oh well, let's put
Speaker 1: our foot down at least that's what they're being accused
Speaker 1: of being.
Speaker 5: That's why they've made this move. They deny this, they say.
Speaker 1: As for the exclusional of external partners at end of
Speaker 1: school celebrations, many of the archdiocese co ed schools never
Speaker 1: allowed for them in the first place, the spokesman said,
Speaker 1: and historically has only been allowed to bring students from
Speaker 1: within their communities.
Speaker 5: Well, it does seem in third there.
Speaker 1: Sydney Catholic Schools spokesperson then went on to talk about
Speaker 1: this is a duty of care issue, which is also
Speaker 1: why we've.
Speaker 5: Banned alcohol as a school system.
Speaker 1: We have a duty of care to our staff and
Speaker 1: students at any school event. The prohibition of alcohol at
Speaker 1: school events is consistent with our code of conduct. The
Speaker 1: focus of these events is on celebration of our students,
Speaker 1: their school lives, friendships and achievements. We do not believe
Speaker 1: that alcohol is a necessary part of any school event
Speaker 1: or sell abration. I say hats off to the Catholics,
Speaker 1: even if you are best known for really enjoying a drink.
Speaker 5: They have a the Catholic Church, I know absolutely.
Speaker 1: I simply love it when schools or any other institution
Speaker 1: of conservative background actually stand up for their values and
Speaker 1: say like it all lump it.
Speaker 5: This is how we're rolling.
Speaker 3: So so take the two issues one at a time.
Speaker 3: Talk to me about the decision that you can't bring
Speaker 3: a date. And it's not just your formals, it's on
Speaker 3: any other sort of major functions throughout the year. And
Speaker 3: no matter what they say, clearly they have done this
Speaker 3: because the last time that someone was allowed to bring
Speaker 3: a date, as you said, a young girl bought her girlfriend.
Speaker 3: The Catholic School said, we really don't want that, it
Speaker 3: goes against our values. Well that became a media storm
Speaker 3: where the Catholics can't win, right, they're accused of discriminating.
Speaker 3: Even Chris Mins, who I believe is a Catholic, said
Speaker 3: that the Catholic Church needed to get with the times
Speaker 3: and allow this to happen. So clearly the Catholic School
Speaker 3: want to retain their orthodoxy, but they don't want the
Speaker 3: media storm. It's going to come every year some kid
Speaker 3: is going to do this.
Speaker 2: Really blame them.
Speaker 6: It's just such a Catholic response. It's like, right, they
Speaker 6: opened the door a crack and then suddenly, oh my god.
Speaker 4: There's lesbians. It's right, No, no, no, one's bring whatever
Speaker 4: and also forever.
Speaker 3: That's a totally unfair characterization. That is not what happened
Speaker 3: at all. What happened was you're going to a Catholic school.
Speaker 3: Clearly they believe that marriage and sex is between a
Speaker 3: man and a woman, so they don't believe in gay relationships.
Speaker 2: You've got a student who brings her.
Speaker 3: Gay partner to the formal knowing full well that's against
Speaker 3: Catholic teaching.
Speaker 2: The Catholic school.
Speaker 6: Says out that she wasn't allowed to, but certainly when
Speaker 6: it became clear that her other partner was saying sex,
Speaker 6: then she was then.
Speaker 3: So the Catholic school's deal and the next thing it's
Speaker 3: a media storm. You've got Chris Mian's the premier involved,
Speaker 3: you've got a quality Australia involved.
Speaker 6: Every Christian school now to me, was at like the
Speaker 6: forefront of saying, you know, when you know when two
Speaker 6: GB is championing a progressive cause, it's actually pre mainstream.
Speaker 3: So of course the Catholic schools would say, you know what,
Speaker 3: we just won't have any dates and will save ourselves.
Speaker 5: It's very smart.
Speaker 1: But you speak of this media storm.
Speaker 5: Because Catholics are being Catholics.
Speaker 1: How dare they stand by their values, how dare they
Speaker 1: stand by the biblical.
Speaker 5: Basis for relationships? Well, well to GB.
Speaker 1: Get onto a premier Chrisman's.
Speaker 5: You call yourself a Catholic? What a sad excuse?
Speaker 1: Then lays into the Catholic schools to crying out loud.
Speaker 1: Why is it always Christian schools that get the bad
Speaker 1: end of the stick every time it's like, oh, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't allow a trans transtudent to be a student in
Speaker 1: your school? No, because it goes against our ethos. And
Speaker 1: all the other parents would be upset by that as well,
Speaker 1: because there's a reason why they chosen public education for
Speaker 1: their children, and they don't want them to be.
Speaker 4: So many people.
Speaker 6: I just look at theumber of kids in Catholic schools
Speaker 6: and look at the number of people who rock up
Speaker 6: to Mass every week. It's a pretty big difference. They
Speaker 6: are not the people who send their kids.
Speaker 1: Well, I've already putthe I'm not sure that I'm not
Speaker 1: aware there was an a single complaint by a parent.
Speaker 3: But it's not the parents who make the school. It's
Speaker 3: it's Catholicism that makes the school. And they go to
Speaker 3: the school because it is Catholic. They like the values,
Speaker 3: the teaching, because that's what you sign up all, then
Speaker 3: that's what you get.
Speaker 2: Don't complain. What about the second issue.
Speaker 4: Catholic value.
Speaker 6: Catholic values have evolved time and time offered very slowly,
Speaker 6: but they have evolved time.
Speaker 3: Values on sexuality have not evolved.
Speaker 6: Should know if you look at what Pope Francis is
Speaker 6: saying about homes.
Speaker 4: The head of the church.
Speaker 5: Back to what literally just.
Speaker 1: Said, that the religions are the same and lead to God.
Speaker 5: That is absolute.
Speaker 4: You know more about Catholic doctrine than.
Speaker 1: The pope, But I know that there is no Catholic
Speaker 1: who's actually a Catholic who would back the Pope on that.
Speaker 1: He literally sat there saying Islam, Judaism, Christianity, the High Faith.
Speaker 1: If you're like, whatever you like, they all.
Speaker 5: Lead to God.
Speaker 1: We're all God's children. Really, then why should I follow Christ?
Speaker 1: Why should I follow Christ?
Speaker 5: We're all headed there anyway? John four sixteen says.
Speaker 4: Red Sheridan, I am way the truth.
Speaker 5: No man comes to the Father but by me.
Speaker 1: So maybe this Pope Francis once to read the bik.
Speaker 6: Reg Sheridan said exactly the same thing about his wife.
Speaker 2: As a sigh, all right, let's go to the second
Speaker 2: topic here.
Speaker 3: I was going to have no alcohol at school formals
Speaker 3: for the parents.
Speaker 5: Read the book.
Speaker 2: We're happy with that.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of Catholic doctrine aside from the Bible.
Speaker 6: In fact, there's a lot of things that Catholics do
Speaker 6: that has absolutely no basis in the Bible whatsoever.
Speaker 4: But anyway, as for the drinking, well aware, there is
Speaker 4: one thing, well, let's do every.
Speaker 6: Single Sunday, and that is all that These days they
Speaker 6: just get that. You just get the bread, but like
Speaker 6: the wine as part of the Eucharist, and now the
Speaker 6: kids can't even have it.
Speaker 3: I went to a school formal and parents get on
Speaker 3: the drink, and some of the parents get a little
Speaker 3: bit willing, And I can understand why a school would say,
Speaker 3: you know what, we just don't want that at our formal.
Speaker 2: So you can have a.
Speaker 4: Drinking and let the kids do the drinking. WI should
Speaker 4: they regret.
Speaker 2: The point is they should have the right to do
Speaker 2: what they want. Surely.
Speaker 3: Well, Prime Minister Anthony Elberizi, he's not in a great
Speaker 3: mood lately, is struggling in the polls, an election coming up.
Speaker 2: Interest rates aren't going down.
Speaker 3: He was interviewed on the ABC Today and would have
Speaker 3: thought it would be a softball interview, and to be honest,
Speaker 3: it was pretty soft, But he was not happy have
Speaker 3: listened to what happened.
Speaker 6: Are you saying negative gearing and capital gains tax concessions
Speaker 6: are absolutely off the table for you?
Speaker 2: Well, they're tax policies.
Speaker 5: But are those tax policies? Are those tax policies completely
Speaker 5: off the table for you?
Speaker 3: Well, Patricia, I don't answer the sort of those sort
Speaker 3: of questions in the way that you mean good ones. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a good question.
Speaker 5: Are you going to say no to those or not?
Speaker 3: There are things that journalists The next question is when
Speaker 3: will the election be?
Speaker 2: That's not my next question. Yeah, well, they're not terribly
Speaker 2: clever questions.
Speaker 3: I just love Patricia kevellis doing a running commentary on
Speaker 3: her own interview.
Speaker 4: I thought that was actually a good comeback, good ones.
Speaker 3: I asked a good question, full credit to myself, and
Speaker 3: I'll tell you my next question. So, but Anthony Albanezie,
Speaker 3: as I said, he would have gone on ABC expecting
Speaker 3: to be given a fairly you know, soft ride, easy questions,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't that difficult just rule in or out
Speaker 3: these particulars yes or no question.
Speaker 1: Are these absolutely off the table for you?
Speaker 5: So I'm just going to get snappy instead.
Speaker 3: Is this a sign that Anthony Albanezi is feeling the
Speaker 3: pressure and he's sensing that he's in trouble.
Speaker 1: Well, we've seen this snappiness from him before, and look,
Speaker 1: no leader is immune to the pressures of the job.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're going to start pulling out prime
Speaker 1: ministers who have like lost it a bit and been
Speaker 1: less graceful than they should in the moment, then we'd.
Speaker 5: Be here all night. But clearly he was having a
Speaker 5: morning of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know why he chose to answer in that
Speaker 1: way because it actually, I my understanding, Joe correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, that was a relatively easy question for him,
Speaker 1: absolutely to do it.
Speaker 6: I think it's probably just early in the morning. You know,
Speaker 6: it's breakfast radio. You know, probably you know it's still
Speaker 6: just you know, waiting for the coffee to kick in.
Speaker 3: Was he surprised that he was getting some tough questions
Speaker 3: on the ABC and that's why he reacted.
Speaker 2: Because I.
Speaker 6: Don't know, I don't know, like that's not something that's
Speaker 6: like retroducing negative gearing.
Speaker 4: But maybe he does have a secret plan.
Speaker 6: I certainly not something that is on my radar, or
Speaker 6: I would have thought was on sort of anybody's.
Speaker 4: Radar, I mean, albow.
Speaker 6: It was widely understood within the Labor Party, and an
Speaker 6: entire review and new platform was written on the back
Speaker 6: of the twenty nine ten loss overt negative gearing that said,
Speaker 6: we cannot do this, we cannot touch this stuff.
Speaker 4: It's just a terrible, terrible look for us.
Speaker 5: Since it was actually an easy question.
Speaker 6: So so it was strange that I suppose it was
Speaker 6: strange that they didn't just say no. But I suspect
Speaker 6: that it was just something that wasn't on his It
Speaker 6: wasn't on his radar, that he was sort of blindsided
Speaker 6: that it was there and just sort of thought, oh god,
Speaker 6: I've just got to try to shut this down and
Speaker 6: move on.
Speaker 3: Because but of course, the ridiculous thing is, had he
Speaker 3: just played us straight back to that question, no one
Speaker 3: would be talking about this interview and most of the
Speaker 3: country wouldn't have even known about it. But because he
Speaker 3: reacted the way he did, it's front page.
Speaker 6: News, that's right, And again it would have only been
Speaker 6: known by the listeners of Radio National.
Speaker 2: Like I said, small number of people.
Speaker 4: Proportion of the Australian Electric Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6: I think it was probably just him not expecting the
Speaker 6: question and trying to sort of flub his way out
Speaker 6: of it, and or perhaps even you know, like if
Speaker 6: you ask the question like that, think, oh God, what
Speaker 6: have I said before?
Speaker 4: What is our actual formal position? You know?
Speaker 6: Have we you know, have we one hundred percent? And
Speaker 6: he would have just thought it's probably just cipher at
Speaker 6: six o'clock in the morning or seven or where it
Speaker 6: was they were doing the interview to just try to
Speaker 6: close it down and move on. But doesn't always work
Speaker 6: the way you plan.
Speaker 4: It to, does it. No.
Speaker 1: Back to the UK now, where with so many migrants
Speaker 1: pouring over the Channel and brit Faney.
Speaker 5: Are screaming out for some.
Speaker 1: Relief, paying millions of pounds week in week out to
Speaker 1: how'se illegal migrants in rather fancy hotels.
Speaker 5: Britain has just announced they will not turn back migrant boats.
Speaker 1: They will not send them back to France as it
Speaker 1: breaches maritime law and risks passenger safety.
Speaker 5: Dama Angela Eagle in the UK's position.
Speaker 1: Said the French don't accept that migrants should always be.
Speaker 5: Returned to them.
Speaker 1: If incidents happen in French territorial waters, they go back
Speaker 1: to France. If they happen in British territorial waters, we
Speaker 1: bring them into safety in the UK. Can't imagine many
Speaker 1: English tax payers are very happy about this. And this
Speaker 1: is being compared with Italy's recent nine million pounds I
Speaker 1: keep going to say dollars deal with Tunisia which allows
Speaker 1: for the interception and return of migrant vessels. So Italy's
Speaker 1: done this great deal, we don't have to deal with
Speaker 1: this anymore. Italy has also had a lot of people
Speaker 1: rocking up onto their shores via boats, and the UK
Speaker 1: just seems to be so reticent to do anything about
Speaker 1: what is a ginormous problem.
Speaker 5: Nigel Farage must be ripping his hair out with his
Speaker 5: latest announcement.
Speaker 2: It is the Johnormo's problem.
Speaker 3: They've had twenty one thousand illegals cross the Channel in
Speaker 3: the nine months to September, and just last Saturday there
Speaker 3: are eight hundred and one illegals in fourteen boats. Of course,
Speaker 3: on Sunday eight people died when one of the boats sank,
Speaker 3: so they've got a major issue here. Amnesty International were
Speaker 3: quite disingenuous by saying that it's the government fault because
Speaker 3: they haven't provided a safe pathway for illegals to get
Speaker 3: into the UK.
Speaker 6: I think, I mean, the real story here is that
Speaker 6: the ninety million pounds, which is about what two hundred
Speaker 6: million is Jian dollars something like that, which France I
Speaker 6: imagine would not come that cheaply. France is a much
Speaker 6: much richer country than Gunisia. So what Italy can do
Speaker 6: to basically, say, you know, similar to what we were
Speaker 6: going to do with you know, the Malaysian solution or
Speaker 6: something like that, where we were just going to find
Speaker 6: find a sweet spot, find a country which was undesirable
Speaker 6: enough to sort of stem the flow and just do
Speaker 6: the swap.
Speaker 4: We did it with America as well.
Speaker 6: I suspect, you know, and what Australia has done is
Speaker 6: actually much more sort of quiet and clever and dar
Speaker 6: say a little bit sneaky as well, but has all
Speaker 6: been done. I think these are the sort of things
Speaker 6: you can't really do almost above board.
Speaker 4: You have to do it, you know, no comment on water.
Speaker 6: Matters, as they say, just you don't want to know
Speaker 6: what people are doing and you just want it sort
Speaker 6: of out of sight and out of mind.
Speaker 3: It's certainly going to be a problem for the Labor
Speaker 3: government in the UK.
Speaker 2: We're going to go to a break.
Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
Speaker 3: including Gold Coast unit owners will be taxed.
Speaker 2: According to their view. It's coming up in just a second.
Speaker 2: Welcome back.
Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers.
Speaker 2: We'll start with a.
Speaker 3: Great story on the front page of tomorrow's Canberra Times,
Speaker 3: a couple of primary school kids who've clearly watched that
Speaker 3: classic film The Great Escape. The headline reads, students escape
Speaker 3: unseen Canberra primary school students dug under a fence to
Speaker 3: go home at lunch. Two children dug underneath the fence
Speaker 3: and left school grounds unnoticed at a Canberra primary school
Speaker 3: that was suffering from staff shortages. In what the Act
Speaker 3: Education Directorate had described as a scary incident. These two
Speaker 3: young children from Mount Rogers Primary School had been in
Speaker 3: the sick bay earlier in the day. Then they were
Speaker 3: feeling a bit better, so they were allowed to go lunch,
Speaker 3: but apparently decided want to go home, so they dug
Speaker 3: a hole under the school fence and headed home and
Speaker 3: the teachers didn't realize because when class went back, they
Speaker 3: just assumed these kids were in sick babe. So apparently
Speaker 3: one of the kids is his name is what Steve McQueen.
Speaker 6: Like this just so the teacher just said, oh, the
Speaker 6: kids not in clab didn't come back, I assume the
Speaker 6: just in sick back, Like, wouldn't that be more reason
Speaker 6: Like if you thought they were sick and this that
Speaker 6: they were in sick bate, wouldn't.
Speaker 4: That be like more reason to check?
Speaker 6: And then I said, oh, but it's because the resources
Speaker 6: we don't have an electronic role. We had to mark
Speaker 6: them with the paper roll. But like, aren't they still
Speaker 6: not there? Like how does how does that make it?
Speaker 2: It said old thing about you should never assume because.
Speaker 4: But this is this moment.
Speaker 6: Another story Punchball Boys High which was a pretty fair
Speaker 6: to say, pretty willing educational environment a few years ago
Speaker 6: before my good friends you had did took over and
Speaker 6: did amazing things. His principal there, and one of the
Speaker 6: problems was this very thing. This is a high school, obviously,
Speaker 6: so kids were tunneling under the fence and just buggering
Speaker 6: off in the middle of the school all the time.
Speaker 6: It was just notorious, and he didn't know what to do.
Speaker 6: There was one problem. He thought they were going out
Speaker 6: to get some chickens and from Fried Chicken or El
Speaker 6: Janna Chicken from the shop because.
Speaker 4: They love the chicken and chips.
Speaker 6: And so he said, right, we're going to get the
Speaker 6: chicken and chips and do it in the school canteens
Speaker 6: so they don't have to get it.
Speaker 4: Very smart.
Speaker 6: Other thing you did it, they did it next to
Speaker 6: he went to flower Power and got some Bogan villayers. Right,
Speaker 6: He said, I want to get all your's Oligan villiers.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, sir, I'll take these. And the
Speaker 6: guy behind the count said, oh, we've got the thorn
Speaker 6: free ones. Now you don't have to go no, no,
Speaker 6: I want the thorns the thorns.
Speaker 5: Have you got a breed with extra? These kids watch
Speaker 5: the Showshank Redemption. They're like, where aret it came back.
Speaker 6: To class after life for their uniforms to shred it
Speaker 6: looking like the incredible howkun.
Speaker 1: To the rumpage of the Courier mail now and in
Speaker 1: news that will surprise absolutely none of you.
Speaker 5: Green offset schemes are failures? What carbon cop out?
Speaker 7: Wait, we've been getting ripped off green carbet offset schemes,
Speaker 7: where customers pay more for travel or bills to fund
Speaker 7: regeneration projects that offset their emissions, are.
Speaker 1: Often complete failures or impossible to track new research claims.
Speaker 1: In a study of one hundred and eighty two Australian
Speaker 1: forest projects, A and you, professor Andrew Macintosh found quote
Speaker 1: limited evidence of regeneration end quote and in almost eighty
Speaker 1: percent of cases would he cover had experienced negligible growth
Speaker 1: to projects back by AGL have actually seen a decrease
Speaker 1: in tree cover. So any of those blogs that genuinely think,
Speaker 1: oh I'm catching a plane, Yes, I will pay extra,
Speaker 1: thanks for asking quantas so I can fly guilt free,
Speaker 1: You've just been sucked in.
Speaker 5: Apparently it does absolutely nothing.
Speaker 6: Oh I actually just had to check my check to
Speaker 6: find out if my energy provider was a g L
Speaker 6: and Fine Energy Australia.
Speaker 5: They must be fine, Okay conscientious.
Speaker 6: I am so concient. But yeah, because we do I
Speaker 6: do do that. I'm one of those Oh.
Speaker 5: You don't you believe them? Trusting like for every flight
Speaker 5: you take, we'll plan a tree for you.
Speaker 6: Joe Daily tableaud journalist. If someone tells me something, I
Speaker 6: just accepted it bose value, especially to come an offset
Speaker 6: scheme it speaking of which the Mighty Telegraph has an
Speaker 6: absolutely incredible and this is just classic stuff. I did
Speaker 6: not have anything to do with this, but it's just quittessent,
Speaker 6: she'll tell you. I'm pretty sure I can imagine the
Speaker 6: editor be in English thinking of this in conference. You
Speaker 6: can almost I can almost see him leaning back as
Speaker 6: the cogs start to turn in his mind.
Speaker 4: That Sydney we have a problem, reads.
Speaker 6: The headline says, the people of New South Wales are
Speaker 6: buying fifty thousand bags of cocaine a day, with the
Speaker 6: States Police Minister Yasmen Cautley pointing the figure squarely at
Speaker 6: our federal counterparts.
Speaker 4: There's a surprise.
Speaker 6: State federal gram say it's their job to stop the
Speaker 6: drugs at the border. So great investigation, great exposure. So
Speaker 6: he's been doing a lot of work on this. But
Speaker 6: the most amazing stuff is if you look at that picture,
Speaker 6: if we can pull it up again on the front page.
Speaker 6: Behind it, the Daily Telegraph has actually hired a grater
Speaker 6: to dump six tons of sand so that you can
Speaker 6: actually get a visual image.
Speaker 4: Of how much cocaine is being consumed in Sydney. Every
Speaker 4: every every day.
Speaker 6: What is its tons of cocaine in four months, so
Speaker 6: about six thous about six times about a year, so
Speaker 6: it's just amazing huge amount.
Speaker 3: Well, if you strapolate it out, it's eighteen million bags
Speaker 3: are being snorted every year in New South Wales.
Speaker 4: Which is on die alone, it's two.
Speaker 2: Bags per resident.
Speaker 3: Let's go to the front page of tomorrow's Gold Coast
Speaker 3: bulletin where the headline reads a Ringside View high rise
Speaker 3: residents take rate hike fight up to the council. Residents
Speaker 3: have put on the gloves and are ready to go
Speaker 3: ten rounds with the Gold Coast City Council over the
Speaker 3: view tax. Opponents of a hike on units have ramped
Speaker 3: up their campaign after council agreed to a review of
Speaker 3: a controversial measure which would result in residents rates bills
Speaker 3: being adjusted depending on what floor of a building they
Speaker 3: live on.
Speaker 2: Now, up until just recently.
Speaker 3: Whether you lived on the first floor or the fortieth floor,
Speaker 3: you paid the same rates. But council are proposing to
Speaker 3: adjust the rates higher and higher as you go. So
Speaker 3: if you live on level one, two, three or four
Speaker 3: you won't get any increase at all. But if you
Speaker 3: live on levels five to ten it's a up to
Speaker 3: twenty percent increase. If you live on levels eleven to twenty,
Speaker 3: it's a thirty percent increase, twenty one to forty it's
Speaker 3: a forty percent increase. And if you live on level
Speaker 3: forty or above on a Gold Coast high rise, you'll
Speaker 3: get a fifty percent increase in your rates.
Speaker 4: Those people are complaining just.
Speaker 3: Because you live high up doesn't mean necessarily you've got
Speaker 3: a view, because some of the rate payers are saying,
Speaker 3: we used to have a view, but then another building
Speaker 3: was put in front of us, and we're still getting
Speaker 3: tax like we had our old view.
Speaker 4: It's not fair. Think how much.
Speaker 6: More the building in front of you is paying on
Speaker 6: their rates doesn't make you feel about it.
Speaker 3: Isn't the point of units though, that it doesn't cost
Speaker 3: the council that much extra in provisions because it's.
Speaker 4: Because it's done.
Speaker 2: You're in the sky.
Speaker 6: So in other homes, the more valuable a home is,
Speaker 6: the higher the rates are.
Speaker 4: So surely to tax the rich measure well, that's generally
Speaker 4: the point of taxing.
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't seem fair in terms of council rates.
Speaker 1: If it's roads rates and rubbish, we all require the
Speaker 1: same service.
Speaker 4: Yes, and every other.
Speaker 6: Like if you've got a mansion on a hill, you
Speaker 6: pay more rates than if you've got a three bedroom
Speaker 6: bungalow in the valley, So why wouldn't.
Speaker 2: The same which is based on land right value.
Speaker 6: I think it's based on the value of the value
Speaker 6: of the high There's not that.
Speaker 1: Many councils on a hill though, is there castles on
Speaker 1: a hill?
Speaker 5: Rather to the front page of the Oars before we.
Speaker 1: Leave you, Miles in abortion attack on chrisal Fooley, Hang
Speaker 1: on a minute, Chris A.
Speaker 5: Fuley hasn't said anything about abortion.
Speaker 1: Probably Stephen Miles and his front bench have launched a
Speaker 1: scare campaign on abortion in the last ditchployee to stay
Speaker 1: in power with the help of women voters, despite l
Speaker 1: MP leader David Chris of Fooley's insistence he will not
Speaker 1: change laws and would continue funding Labour's forty two million
Speaker 1: dollar abortion action plans. So Miles seems to have taken
Speaker 1: a leaf out of the book of the Democrats in
Speaker 1: America and decided to run on an issue that literally
Speaker 1: isn't an issue.
Speaker 5: As Chris of Fooley. As Miles has.
Speaker 1: Been uploading all this nonsense to his social media christ
Speaker 1: Aph Fuoley has repeatedly said, this is a nonsense.
Speaker 5: Where's the misinformation? Disinformation people cracking down on this?
Speaker 6: But what's Christopholly's relationship with Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4: That's what we're going to go to a break.
Speaker 3: Will we come back a Victorian golfer donz a wig
Speaker 3: and address to try and get a discount being offered
Speaker 3: to female golfers. We'll show you how that goes in
Speaker 3: just a second. Well, with less than fifty days to
Speaker 3: the election, the US presidential race is heating up now.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I'm sure you're aware of
Speaker 3: in the US is that there's no compulsory voting. See,
Speaker 3: I've really got to motivate people to get out there
Speaker 3: and vote. And so Donald Trump, well he was very
Speaker 3: motivational in New York this week.
Speaker 8: We can do all of this and more, but patriotic
Speaker 8: New York must get your asses out to vote.
Speaker 4: Got to get out, Get to go out.
Speaker 8: Harry, Get up, Harry, Harry, get your fat ass out
Speaker 8: of the couch. You're going to vote for Trump today, Harry,
Speaker 8: Get up, Harry, come on, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 3: Harry, what do you reckon, Joe, Harry, get your fat
Speaker 3: ass out of the couch.
Speaker 2: Is Harry inspired or.
Speaker 6: Is I like to think Harry is a real person.
Speaker 6: I like to I like to imagine that Donald Trump
Speaker 6: was actually thinking of someone called Harry, who's notoriously lazy,
Speaker 6: just sitting there watching Seinfeld. It's a brilliant it's a
Speaker 6: brilliant strategy. Strangely enough, he does something that he knows
Speaker 6: is going to go viral. The only way he can
Speaker 6: win is if he gets some surge in people coming
Speaker 6: out to vote who otherwise wouldn't vote. Every single russet
Speaker 6: On Trump voter is going to wade through, you know,
Speaker 6: crocodile infested.
Speaker 2: Who want us to vote for him.
Speaker 6: So he's got and that's not enough as it stands now,
Speaker 6: and so he's got to get He's got to get Harry.
Speaker 6: He's got to get Harry, who was otherwise just going
Speaker 6: to sit this one out, and somehow get him energize.
Speaker 1: I got to get Harry to move your ass.
Speaker 8: Harry.
Speaker 1: Well, just before we leave you tonight, a golf club
Speaker 1: in Victoria who has offered a special six day deal
Speaker 1: at a reduced rate for female players got more than
Speaker 1: they were asking for when an old mate player decided, well,
Speaker 1: since we can identify as whatever we like nowadays, I
Speaker 1: want the cheaper rate, Kerrie, is it.
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm identifying as a female now and I'm just
Speaker 7: about to inquire about the new membership.
Speaker 4: He goes, Kerry, I'm now identifying as a female. I
Speaker 4: just wanted to inquire about the new membership deal. Had
Speaker 4: to answer that, No, you need to delegate if you
Speaker 4: want to have a discussion. Then you know your.
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