Speaker 1: A lot of its outside. Good morning and welcome to Outsiders,
Speaker 1: the show that champions the outsider, that person who is
Speaker 1: not afraid to challenge the orthodoxy, even in the face
Speaker 1: of being canceled and censored by the authoritarian left. But
Speaker 1: what happens to those guests? We have champions such as
Speaker 1: the epidemiologists too, we we alone gave a platform to
Speaker 1: during the draconian COVID years. And who is demonized even
Speaker 1: in the Australian Senate. Do they disappear into shame and obscurity?
Speaker 1: Quite the opposite.
Speaker 2: This is a historic day the conduct of this dangerous
Speaker 2: kind of function research which aims at taking pathogens and
Speaker 2: making them more very more transmissalong humans. Many scientists believe
Speaker 2: as we're responsible for the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 3: Yes, that was our frequent Outsider's guest during COVID doctor J.
Speaker 4: Battaya Batsataria Baticharia.
Speaker 3: Oh we love him.
Speaker 4: He was demonized by the Australian Center, demonized by the
Speaker 4: Biden administration, and now he's a top member of the
Speaker 4: Trump administration.
Speaker 2: There's always a danger that in doing this research it
Speaker 2: might leak out just.
Speaker 1: By accident even and cause a pandemic.
Speaker 2: Any nation that engages in this research endangers their own
Speaker 2: population as well as the world, as we saw during
Speaker 2: the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 5: Yes, that's right.
Speaker 6: This week saw doctor j Badicharia in the Oval Office
Speaker 6: alongside Donald Trump as he signed that executive order banning
Speaker 6: all funding for dangerous gain of function research in certain nations.
Speaker 2: This executive order puts in place of framework to make
Speaker 2: sure that the public has a say that if.
Speaker 1: Such a risk is being taken.
Speaker 2: That only scientists along won't be able to decide that
Speaker 2: that in fact, the publicans saying no, don't take this risk.
Speaker 1: And someone else who has gone on to great things
Speaker 1: since first appearing on Outsiders many years ago as an
Speaker 1: unknown outsider, a fresh face nobody knew. In fact, it
Speaker 1: was her first appearance ever on Sky News Australia. Was
Speaker 1: a young mum from the Northern Territory. Her name just
Speaker 1: Center Nampajimper Price. She's a senator now and in the
Speaker 1: best news to come out of this miserable federal election,
Speaker 1: she has thrown her hat into the ring to be
Speaker 1: Deputy leader of the Liberal Party and Senator just Into
Speaker 1: namper Jimper Price will be joining us here on Outsiders
Speaker 1: this morning for her first interview following the announcement. Also
Speaker 1: joining us in just a tick will be none other
Speaker 1: than Senator Matt Canavan, who is challenging for the leadership
Speaker 1: of the Nationals. What a huge show. So let's get
Speaker 1: kick off straight off with the latest Outsiders news. Well,
Speaker 1: Rita and James, all the leaderships are happening this week,
Speaker 1: very exciting both Matt Canavan. Canavan is going for the
Speaker 1: Nationals leadership. Let's talk about that first. Riata.
Speaker 3: Yes over due.
Speaker 4: I think it's precisely what we need to see from
Speaker 4: the Nationals. The Nationals did well at this election campaign,
Speaker 4: unlike their coalition partners who did horribly. As we've been
Speaker 4: talking about, it's kind of amusing to hear the likes
Speaker 4: of the Greens talk about the Liberals becoming Maga extremist,
Speaker 4: right Trumpian. When the Liberals went into this election with
Speaker 4: smaller liberal policies.
Speaker 3: Where they were labor like.
Speaker 4: This is what their biggest donors are telling them, are saying,
Speaker 4: we're pulling our money out because if we wanted the
Speaker 4: labor like political party, we've already got one. We don't
Speaker 4: need another imitation of Verneba well, well, yeah, so this
Speaker 4: every time the Liberals go into an election, whether it's
Speaker 4: at state level or federal level, and they run on
Speaker 4: a smaller liberal policies where they try to veer to
Speaker 4: the center or to the left, and they get absolutely smashed.
Speaker 4: The advice from the political pundits is, oh, well.
Speaker 3: You're too far right, you need to go more left.
Speaker 4: It is incredibly just asinine. We see it every single time.
Speaker 4: I've seen it in Victoria last three elections. And let's
Speaker 4: hope they learn the lessons and we don't have another
Speaker 4: smaller liberal moderate Malcolm turnbullesque in a skirt leading the
Speaker 4: Liberal Party. Matt Canavan, I think is precisely what the
Speaker 4: Nationals need and it will give them some clear policy direction,
Speaker 4: particularly when it comes to the crucial issue of net zero.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, James, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, I'm glad reader that you mentioned the
Speaker 6: Nationals and their performance in this election, and I'm glad
Speaker 6: that you mentioned Malcolm Turnable because to me, there's a
Speaker 6: great analogue between what just happened here in twenty sixteen. Now,
Speaker 6: the Liberals did not lose government, but they barely hung on,
Speaker 6: and they only hung on and it killed Malcolm Turnable.
Speaker 6: Through his entire premiership. That only with the fact that
Speaker 6: the Nats held every single one of their seats and
Speaker 6: the Liberals went way backwards. And that's exactly what we
Speaker 6: had happened here again, but just to a more extreme version.
Speaker 6: Now Peter does it. Let's be fair to him. He's
Speaker 6: no Malcolm Turble, right, you know, let's you know, let's.
Speaker 3: Try to this election.
Speaker 6: Well he tried maybe a little bit, but the problem
Speaker 6: was that there was no articulation of clear liberal values.
Speaker 6: And the thing is, liberal values are actually very straightforward.
Speaker 6: They're about liberty, they're about aspiration. They're about you know,
Speaker 6: sensible policies that help people get ahead, and it's about
Speaker 6: people making their own choices in their own life rather
Speaker 6: than you know, as the Labor and the alban Easy
Speaker 6: government say, the government has to be with you at
Speaker 6: every step of your life.
Speaker 5: And so these are not complicated things. They're not hard
Speaker 5: to articulate.
Speaker 6: But my real worry here for the Liberals is that
Speaker 6: you know, they're going to take, as you suggested, Rita
Speaker 6: entirely the wrong lesson from this, and they're gonna go
Speaker 6: and they're gonna say, oh, well, you know, we need
Speaker 6: to have less and less difference between us and Labor,
Speaker 6: who has now got the chance to set the dominant
Speaker 6: narrative in the country, which is very dangerous and I
Speaker 6: mean Rowan, look you come from the world of advertising.
Speaker 6: Product in differentiation.
Speaker 5: Is all is what.
Speaker 6: It's a credential system in a country with a voting
Speaker 6: system like ours that really needs to be clear air.
Speaker 6: If you go down this sort of small l liberal
Speaker 6: route where you just try and be all sensible, centrist
Speaker 6: and a figure that the voters will be attracted to
Speaker 6: you not the other people, well you know you wind
Speaker 6: up in the situation as say Mark Speakman is here,
Speaker 6: who's the opposition leader in New South Wales, who is
Speaker 6: proudly a centrist and says, oh the part needs to
Speaker 6: go to the center and dump this and dump that
Speaker 6: and basically just run again as we all say on
Speaker 6: this program.
Speaker 5: As Labor light.
Speaker 6: Well, you know Mark Speakman, no one believes that he
Speaker 6: will ever be premier of this.
Speaker 3: If I live in New South Wales, my vote would
Speaker 3: be going to the Mints.
Speaker 4: Why would you vote for someone who is half pregnant,
Speaker 4: someone who doesn't actually have a principled position at least
Speaker 4: with Labor, even when they go a little bit wacky
Speaker 4: with some of their policy positions, you know, it's what
Speaker 4: they believe in. When you've got the Liberals being labor light,
Speaker 4: it is inauthentic as well as being weakened.
Speaker 1: I think that's the key point. And well there are
Speaker 1: two key points. One, as James is suggesting, oppositions must
Speaker 1: oppose not for their own sake, but for the sake
Speaker 1: of the Australian people. We the people of Australia, have
Speaker 1: a democratic system that demands an adversarial relationship between the
Speaker 1: two main major parties. Otherwise we are being short changed.
Speaker 1: And that's what just happened in the election last weekend.
Speaker 1: We were short changed, we were ripped off. We were
Speaker 1: let down by the conservative side of politics who did
Speaker 1: not put our case forward. And that is a discrace
Speaker 1: and that must not be allowed to happen. My fear
Speaker 1: here is that the Liberals are going to do exactly
Speaker 1: the same thing. I don't know Susan Lay Susan with
Speaker 1: two s's, or however many essays she's got her name
Speaker 1: because she's into numerology. I don't know much about her
Speaker 1: other than she's never stood out as someone that I
Speaker 1: feel attracted to from the kind of conservative point of
Speaker 1: view the Liberals must offer us. They failed every time,
Speaker 1: and I'll be talking about this more later at ten o'clock.
Speaker 1: Every time they put forward these labor light centrist candidates,
Speaker 1: they lose big time or just narrowly scrape in. It's
Speaker 1: not good enough. We have to have a conservative leadership
Speaker 1: of both parties in the coalition. We must have Matt
Speaker 1: Canavan leading the Nationals. He's the greatest communicator they have.
Speaker 1: He's one of the most popular popular politicians I know of.
Speaker 1: He's clear, articulate, he stands up for positions that people
Speaker 1: believe in. He's a fighter, he's from the bush, he's
Speaker 1: from Queensland. Similarly, Angus Taylor and just Enter Price as
Speaker 1: a ticket together would be fantastic stick You've got you've
Speaker 1: got the one guy who's got the banking background and
Speaker 1: you've got the girl from the bush. It comes from
Speaker 1: the most extraordinary background up there in the Northern Territory.
Speaker 1: What a terrific ticket for Australians to get behind. We
Speaker 1: don't need another Canberra kind of you know, focus group
Speaker 1: driven leader of the Libs because it will end in
Speaker 1: the usual disaster that they keep offering up it.
Speaker 4: Well, can we just say about Susan Lay, Susan, do
Speaker 4: we still pronounce the name the same dest?
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think. Yeah, I have some questions
Speaker 3: about that. I think that's her judgment, so you should have.
Speaker 4: I just think on every key issue where I've noticed her,
Speaker 4: she has started off in the wrong position after and
Speaker 4: then has been persuaded or forced or I don't know,
Speaker 4: looked at the polling and the focus groups and changed
Speaker 4: her position. That's not being authentic, that's not being principled.
Speaker 4: I have more respect for her if she's stuck to
Speaker 4: original positions.
Speaker 3: On the voice she was pro, then she was against.
Speaker 4: When it comes to the Palestine Israel issue, again, we've
Speaker 4: seen a bit of a flip flopping there when.
Speaker 3: It came just last year. The last year we had that.
Speaker 4: Deeply flawed activist report, the gender wage Gap Report, which
Speaker 4: Janet Orbrickson ripped apart, I ripped apart, we had senators
Speaker 4: ripping it apart. Who was standing there saying this is
Speaker 4: a really important document and corporations have to take note
Speaker 4: of it. Susan Lay, she's the only one who seems
Speaker 4: to kind of miss the glaring holes in these activist reports.
Speaker 4: I think she just is far too comfortable playing identity politics,
Speaker 4: playing those games. I don't think this is what the
Speaker 4: Liberal Party need. They need to be They've got a
Speaker 4: massive rebuild, they need to have someone in the role
Speaker 4: who's up to the task.
Speaker 3: I don't think she's up to the toss well.
Speaker 6: And you know, beyond that, whoever leads the coalition, whoever
Speaker 6: leads the Liberals, they need to get back to these
Speaker 6: first principles, you know. And I just feel like none
Speaker 6: of the policies that they actually went to the election
Speaker 6: with really took on this real sort of conflict divisions,
Speaker 6: because they were so scared of being called, oh, maga
Speaker 6: Trump conservative right wing, that they didn't actually go out
Speaker 6: and say, look, there's a cent of Australian Conservative principles
Speaker 6: which are not maga, but are simply longstanding principles that
Speaker 6: you are the author of your own destiny. It is
Speaker 6: not the government and the way labor and it's really
Speaker 6: dangerous because potentially you could see a decade of labor
Speaker 6: here where they shift the entire political consensus of this
Speaker 6: country to one that is a poorer, one that is
Speaker 6: much more interventionist, and one where the government is with
Speaker 6: you at every step of the way, and you don't
Speaker 6: have the chance and the freedom to go and do
Speaker 6: what you want and build the life that you want,
Speaker 6: and own the home that you want, and build the
Speaker 6: business that you want and have that for your kids
Speaker 6: and grandkids, because instead everything is refracted through the lens
Speaker 6: of the state, whether it's our powerable, whether it's our education,
Speaker 6: whether it's regulation, whether it's the fact that really the
Speaker 6: only things that people do to make money any more
Speaker 6: is to go into NDIS schemes. You know, it just
Speaker 6: shows just how intellectually bankrupt labor is. And if the
Speaker 6: Liberals can't win on that with some straight talk and
Speaker 6: say you know, that's a nonsense way to live, we
Speaker 6: will all be poorer and more constrained.
Speaker 5: They don't deserve government.
Speaker 4: And that's what we've been saying all year on this program,
Speaker 4: and particularly since the election campaign was called because we
Speaker 4: were as a group aghast at what we were seeing.
Speaker 4: This was such a lackluster, unprincipled campaign. The only really
Speaker 4: policy differentiation that stood out was the one that they
Speaker 4: refused to talk about, which was nuclear energy because they were.
Speaker 3: Scared of it.
Speaker 4: So why would Australian people throw out a first term
Speaker 4: labor government when you're not even giving them an alternative plan.
Speaker 3: That's clear.
Speaker 4: It was all over the shop. One thing it certainly
Speaker 4: wasn't wasn't Trumpian. You know what you're going to Dutton
Speaker 4: and the Liberals were as Trumpian in this election campaign
Speaker 4: as I'm a natural blonde.
Speaker 3: I mean, it is ridiculous.
Speaker 4: It is such an absurd notion and to and to
Speaker 4: hear people talk about that is just shows you how
Speaker 4: divorced from reality James.
Speaker 1: I'll just jump in what is critical for the leadership?
Speaker 7: You see?
Speaker 1: You can't build the sort of party that James is
Speaker 1: talking about, one based on principles of smaller government, less
Speaker 1: government interference in your lives, encouraging smaller business and you know,
Speaker 1: encouraging productivity.
Speaker 5: All of those.
Speaker 1: Things can only come from leaders who believe it in
Speaker 1: their core and they have to have lived that and
Speaker 1: believed it all their lives, not looking every five minutes
Speaker 1: for a focus group to tell them, as Kevin Rudd did,
Speaker 1: what do I what are my convictions? Said Kevin Rudd.
Speaker 1: We'll go and have a focus group so I can
Speaker 1: find out if we have that sort of leadership of
Speaker 1: the Liberal party. You're doomed. You finished. You have to
Speaker 1: have leaders who instinctively, like a Howard, like an Abbott,
Speaker 1: instinctively know what the basic fundamental liberal conservative position is. Sure,
Speaker 1: you can tinkle with it, you can build on it, whatever,
Speaker 1: but you have to come from that principle. And those
Speaker 1: core principles are long established, they're not new. We all
Speaker 1: know what they are. And unless the coalition fights tooth
Speaker 1: and nail for those positions, you're not going to win.
Speaker 1: You're not going to win.
Speaker 6: And the crazy thing here is that they had a
Speaker 6: roadmap to do this. You know, I was talking to
Speaker 6: people who were giving them policies, articulated policies on things
Speaker 6: like income splitting, which would make it easier for our
Speaker 6: parents and families and women to stay home with their
Speaker 6: kids and get a tax break off of that, you know,
Speaker 6: very simple pro family, pro woman policy. They just didn't
Speaker 6: go anywhere near it. So came close to talking about
Speaker 6: doing something about the index tax rate, but then Peter
Speaker 6: Dunt squibbed it at the last bit, said, oh, but
Speaker 6: it will cost the budget, when it's like no bracket
Speaker 6: creep costs the taxpayer, and that the focus needs to
Speaker 6: be on the taxpayer, the productive citizen, not on the budget.
Speaker 6: You know, deal with that, but you know that would
Speaker 6: have been again a huge cost of living thing.
Speaker 5: They refuse to go near it. Now, they refuse to.
Speaker 6: Go near all of these things that they just I
Speaker 6: don't think had the intellectual metal to fight for.
Speaker 4: Because we told them, James, they hadn't done the way.
Speaker 5: It had been done for them. The policy.
Speaker 6: I saw the policy on income splitting, that it was
Speaker 6: all worked out, it was given to you, that they refused.
Speaker 5: To take it.
Speaker 1: I you surprised. We had Peter Dutton during the Voice thing,
Speaker 1: during the Voice campaign. Midway through the Voice campaign, go
Speaker 1: if you don't, let's have a few other voices over
Speaker 1: hear said different voices in the States. So, I mean
Speaker 1: it was all focused group driven. You have to have
Speaker 1: people like this enterprise, people like Matt Canavan who have
Speaker 1: core beliefs that are unshakable and they will always be
Speaker 1: their guiding light. Not this kind of all hang on,
Speaker 1: what are we going to do today? What are the
Speaker 1: focus groups say, Oh, get rid of that policy. Speaking
Speaker 1: of one of those potential leaders, someone who I certainly
Speaker 1: hope that that's smart enough to make their leader Matt Canavan.
Speaker 1: Senator Matt Canavan joins us. Now, Matt, here you are
Speaker 1: on our screens, just coming up, and we've been talking
Speaker 1: about you. What are coincidence? How these things worth? Where
Speaker 1: have we got Matt? How are you? Matt?
Speaker 8: Good round you? My ears were burning for a reason.
Speaker 8: Happy Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day to all the moms
Speaker 8: out there. We need more moms, more kids, need to
Speaker 8: get that birth right up.
Speaker 1: Absolutely And I've actually met your mum and she's a
Speaker 1: great Australian as well.
Speaker 7: Matt.
Speaker 1: You've thrown your hat into the ring for the leadership
Speaker 1: of the Nationals. Why what do you hope to bring
Speaker 1: to the party. Why should why should th that's look
Speaker 1: to you. They did well in the election, obviously they
Speaker 1: could do better. What do you offer?
Speaker 8: Well, look, Rowan, I'm running because I think we have
Speaker 8: to end the tyranny.
Speaker 7: Of groupthink in our country.
Speaker 8: Over the last few years, A Paul has come down
Speaker 8: in our nation, which has not allowed the debate, which
Speaker 8: has seen any kind of descent from the prevailing views.
Speaker 8: Somehow disloyal to either the party or to the institutions
Speaker 8: of global institutions. We've somehow signed ourselves up to and
Speaker 8: I think Australian people deserve a choice, a proper choice.
Speaker 8: I don't think we got that at the election because
Speaker 8: I felt, especially in the Nationals Party, we pulled our
Speaker 8: punches sometimes we explicitly decided to turn the volume down
Speaker 8: on our party in an ultimately futile attempt to help
Speaker 8: the Liberals win seats in the city. That strategy didn't work.
Speaker 8: So we need a new plan. And I think we
Speaker 8: need to fight for our country. This is not so
Speaker 8: much about me or our party. I don't want to
Speaker 8: fight to save our party. We want to fight to
Speaker 8: save our country because roan losing right now. We're losing
Speaker 8: our wealth, We're losing our jobs, were losing our industries,
Speaker 8: we're losing our culture as people continually take take no
Speaker 8: real serious defense of what's great about our country and
Speaker 8: what we've been handed down by our ancestors. And if
Speaker 8: we don't defend our nation, we're going to hand out
Speaker 8: a much poorer country, a weaker country, a more divided
Speaker 8: country to our kids.
Speaker 7: So that's why I'm in this race.
Speaker 8: I think we've got to smash the consensus there on
Speaker 8: this ridiculous net zero idea.
Speaker 7: It was never going to work.
Speaker 8: Now it's clear it's not working and that most other
Speaker 8: countries around the world are moving away from it. We
Speaker 8: should also have no problem in standing up for merit.
Speaker 8: Why do we have to sign up this ridiculous diversity,
Speaker 8: equity and inclusion agenda which tries to divide us by gender,
Speaker 8: by sexuality, by religion, whatever it may be. Let's get
Speaker 8: back to the principle of individual merit. That'll be the
Speaker 8: best thing for our country. It's also the best way
Speaker 8: to treat each individual human being with distinct and unique
Speaker 8: special attributes. And look, we also need to of course
Speaker 8: defend our culture to defend our country. It shouldn't be
Speaker 8: seen to be biggot to want to reduce the immigration
Speaker 8: rate just because you want to protect Australians first and
Speaker 8: make sure they have a home. I'm going to stand
Speaker 8: up for all of those things, fight for those things,
Speaker 8: and whether I win or lose, I will keep fighting
Speaker 8: for the Nationals Party, keep fighting for our country.
Speaker 7: And I think we need to have this debate on.
Speaker 3: The tyranny of group think.
Speaker 4: We saw the Liberals refuse to walk away from net
Speaker 4: zero and really make this a election, a referendum about
Speaker 4: climate change and the cost of living, the cost of energy.
Speaker 4: If you do have a Susan lay As leader who
Speaker 4: is a smaller Liberal, what's that going to mean for
Speaker 4: the coalition? How strong is the coalition between the Liberals
Speaker 4: and the Nationals as things stand.
Speaker 8: Look, look, Greta, I'm not going to get involved in
Speaker 8: the leadership of another party. It's completely a matter for
Speaker 8: the Liberal Party. Well, of course we'll try and work
Speaker 8: productively with anybody who's elected, but I really am focused
Speaker 8: on our right now. Obviously, we've got a question to
Speaker 8: answer this week and we'll deal with those issues after that.
Speaker 8: But look, I'm also despite the disappointment last week. Yes,
Speaker 8: the Nationals Party in relative terms had a better outcome
Speaker 8: than the Liberals, but we didn't win government.
Speaker 7: That's our goal, that should be our task.
Speaker 8: And while it is very disappointing and disheartening for many
Speaker 8: of our supporters, I genuinely believe that the next few
Speaker 8: years could be the most exciting yet for the Nationals Party.
Speaker 8: I think we have a huge opportunity to sell ourselves
Speaker 8: in more areas around the country. We already know, given
Speaker 8: the results in recent elections, that we're very good at
Speaker 8: running local issues campaigns. Being in touch with our local
Speaker 8: communities like Michelle Landry, Andrew Wilcox, Colin Boyce down the road,
Speaker 8: all are here in central Queensland, and I just think
Speaker 8: we can take that on the road, take that nationally,
Speaker 8: fight for every different region of this country, because we
Speaker 8: often do represent people and talk often with people who
Speaker 8: have to shower after.
Speaker 7: Work, not before work.
Speaker 8: They work tough jobs, not necessarily with some climes, dirty jobs,
Speaker 8: but just you know, check out Chick's nurses on their feet.
Speaker 8: They get tired by the end of the day. You
Speaker 8: know that they're doing it tough. And we're in touch,
Speaker 8: We're on the ground, we're grounded with those people. And
Speaker 8: I think it's that kind of campaign to take that
Speaker 8: choice to the Australian people that we're on your side,
Speaker 8: where we're going to fight for you.
Speaker 7: And I will always fight for those people.
Speaker 8: Who battle in this country and because by making their
Speaker 8: life easier, by making their families better, that's how we
Speaker 8: make our country better too.
Speaker 6: James and Matt, I mean, I want to talk a
Speaker 6: little bit more about this group thig thing that you
Speaker 6: articulated there before, because I think that that sums up
Speaker 6: another way of talking about this whole phrase culture wars,
Speaker 6: which we always hear from the left, which is a
Speaker 6: way of their seeing shut up and don't talk about
Speaker 6: the changes that we're making to the culture. Tell us
Speaker 6: about what position the Nationals are in and how you
Speaker 6: square because I think it's absolutely necessary. You have to
Speaker 6: fight for something for the people, you know, for all
Speaker 6: the people who are just doing tough, ordinary everyday jobs.
Speaker 6: That the culture that we exist in matters. That if
Speaker 6: we don't have a strong culture based on these sort
Speaker 6: of values of aspiration and achievement and liberty, that we
Speaker 6: won't actually have the economy that we need to create
Speaker 6: the prosperity that we deserve in the future.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good question, James.
Speaker 8: Look, the National's Party, it's not particularly ideological. We're very practical,
Speaker 8: very pragmatic. And it frustrates me when you're in Canberra.
Speaker 8: There's a whole different way of talking, which means it's
Speaker 8: a whole different way of thinking, which means a whole
Speaker 8: different way of acting. And so people talk about culture
Speaker 8: wars left or right or moderate and small our liberal
Speaker 8: and all this other stuff which nobody out in the
Speaker 8: real ever talks like.
Speaker 7: They don't talk like that.
Speaker 8: And as my colleague Ander Wilcock summed up this week,
Speaker 8: you did it really well. Sum Up, Yeah, we don't
Speaker 8: care about right or left. We care about right or wrong.
Speaker 8: That should be the question before any political part in
Speaker 8: this country, any country looking to advance itself, is what
Speaker 8: is right or wrong for our nation.
Speaker 7: I don't care role left.
Speaker 8: I don't care if the idea comes from the left wing,
Speaker 8: or from trade union or from a right wing conservative
Speaker 8: think tech.
Speaker 7: I don't care.
Speaker 8: I want the right policies at help Australians and that's
Speaker 8: what we're always focused on in the National's Party. I
Speaker 8: think right now we should look at the fact that
Speaker 8: our electricity bills are soaring, we're losing our industries, we're
Speaker 8: losing our jobs.
Speaker 7: At at a practical level, whatever.
Speaker 8: You think about carbon emissions, climate change, whether your a
Speaker 8: right wing or your Trumpian, whatever, who cares about those labels,
Speaker 8: shouldn't the primary goal of all politicians of your government
Speaker 8: right now is to lower up power prices. That should
Speaker 8: be the primary goal of your government because people are
Speaker 8: suffering from those high power prices. It's feeding through to
Speaker 8: high grocery prices which are out of control, and then
Speaker 8: it's also leading to the loss of jobs and industries.
Speaker 8: Just under this first term of the Labor government, we've
Speaker 8: lost our plastics industry, we've lost our urear, which is
Speaker 8: the most important fertilizer industry, and we've lost our nickel industry.
Speaker 8: And that's just for starters. So I want to get
Speaker 8: back to that issue. At the election, I felt we
Speaker 8: designed our energy policy to reduce emissions.
Speaker 7: That's what we spoke about, zero missions, nuclear all that stuff.
Speaker 8: Look, of course it'd be better if we can have
Speaker 8: lower emissions, but shouldn't we should design our energy policy
Speaker 8: to reduce power process, not to reduce emissions.
Speaker 1: And man, isn't the problem that under Labor we've got
Speaker 1: red tape, we've got green tape, we've now got black tape.
Speaker 1: So we've got all this regulation. So you've talked about
Speaker 1: things like the live sheep trade being shut down. The
Speaker 1: gold mine that can you pally big sectors? I lower,
Speaker 1: you know, who needs a gold mine? I mean we
Speaker 1: might find some gold down there for some songline B
Speaker 1: or whatever. It was something indigenous thing. So isn't it
Speaker 1: all that the sort of stuff which is National's heartland.
Speaker 8: There's got to be absolutely there's got to be leadership
Speaker 8: here from your government to say, look, we've got to
Speaker 8: cut through all of this wasteful paper shuffling which is
Speaker 8: reducing our nation's productivity and ultimately reducing your wages. Real
Speaker 8: wages for people have gone back a decade under this
Speaker 8: first labor government, and a big part of that is
Speaker 8: the rise of a bureaucratic class, both in government and
Speaker 8: in the corporate world, that is just causing people to
Speaker 8: do bs jobs, jobs that do nothing. They don't create
Speaker 8: any wealth, any any productivity, and all they do are
Speaker 8: a drag on everyone else. And so, for example, the
Speaker 8: come Off Bank a couple of months ago to set
Speaker 8: a construction firm a one page.
Speaker 7: List of more than twenty different statements they had to
Speaker 7: make on things like modern slavery. Obviously ESG.
Speaker 8: If you don't know what ESG stands for, it stands
Speaker 8: for extreme shortage is guaranteed. You had to fill out forms,
Speaker 8: your on your relationship, on labor regulations, all this stuff.
Speaker 8: And they just wanted to build homes, this firm, and
Speaker 8: they're being asked to solve to solve global climate change.
Speaker 8: I don't know if they had to solve the Middle
Speaker 8: East peace crisis as well, but it is just an
Speaker 8: utter absurdity. Why don't we let someone who wants to
Speaker 8: build homes just build homes focus on that. Why don't
Speaker 8: we have the Department of Infrastructure in canber just focus
Speaker 8: on building roads, whereas under this government, every road they
Speaker 8: build they have to assess for its impact on climate change. Well,
Speaker 8: I've just drove the driven the Bruce Highway probably about
Speaker 8: five to six times in the last couple of weeks
Speaker 8: and it is an utter, utter disgrace, a national disgrace.
Speaker 8: Why don't we just fix that?
Speaker 7: Fix that?
Speaker 8: And I don't know about climate change, but I think
Speaker 8: we should focus on what we can control and focus
Speaker 8: on making people's lives better in a practical sense.
Speaker 1: And also, sorry, Matt, the only roads that are perfect
Speaker 1: are the beautiful roads going to windmills and solar farms
Speaker 1: which are decimating the Queensland country side. But anyway, reta just.
Speaker 4: A quick post mortem from you, and just if you
Speaker 4: can give us an insight into what was happening within
Speaker 4: the coalition, because we were obviously very frustrated throughout the campaign,
Speaker 4: wondering when we were going to see these big policies
Speaker 4: where we were going to see real points of differentiation
Speaker 4: why do you think the coalition, the Liberal Party in particular,
Speaker 4: chose to run the policy platform they did, where for
Speaker 4: the average person it was hard to tell the difference
Speaker 4: between the two parties.
Speaker 8: Well, I wish I could give you an inside view,
Speaker 8: but Rider, I haven't been on insiders, I think for
Speaker 8: six or seven years.
Speaker 7: I'm an outsider like you.
Speaker 8: I obviously had different views on what policies we should
Speaker 8: take the election on the different fronts. But look, so
Speaker 8: I don't exactly know. I don't know. I wasn't in
Speaker 8: the discussions in the room there, I do think, and
Speaker 8: I'm speaking generica then, sorry, not about necessarily this campaign,
Speaker 8: but I do think there's been perhaps an over emphasis
Speaker 8: on saying you have to stay on message and you
Speaker 8: just have one message, and there's not enough space I
Speaker 8: suppose people's minds for multiple things.
Speaker 7: Well, there's always a little bit of truth in that.
Speaker 8: I do think perhaps we need to get with the
Speaker 8: media times. You know, people are no longer just watching
Speaker 8: the six o'clock news every night. There actually is a
Speaker 8: bit of bandwidth here for some more detailed conversations. We
Speaker 8: certainly saw that in the presential election last year with
Speaker 8: long form podcast What have you. So, you know, I
Speaker 8: think IS trained people that have a hunger and openness
Speaker 8: for a little bit more detail, a little bit more
Speaker 8: of a conversation and a debate, and rather than just
Speaker 8: to focus on the ten second soundbites, which may have
Speaker 8: worked really well twenty years ago from a political tactical
Speaker 8: point of view.
Speaker 7: But you know, I like to have discussions.
Speaker 8: I like to get into the detail of things because
Speaker 8: it's only by doing that you make the right decisions.
Speaker 8: Of saying, that's what we should be focused on, making
Speaker 8: right decisions for the is range people.
Speaker 1: Well, Matt Canavan, I hope the National Party Room makes
Speaker 1: the right decision. I can tell you that if my
Speaker 1: mailbox has anything to go by, the hunger to see
Speaker 1: Matt Canavan leading the National Party goes across this nation,
Speaker 1: the width and breadth of this nation. People are so
Speaker 1: desperate to see you in that leadership role, Senator Matt Canavan.
Speaker 1: So good luck they're in the party room. And thanks
Speaker 1: for coming on Outsiders, and we'll speak again soon after
Speaker 1: the break Rita's Reality Check. Lots more here on Outsiders
Speaker 1: and just sent to Nama Jimp for Price will be
Speaker 1: joining us here on the show.
Speaker 9: For sure, watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan cognitively robust,
Speaker 9: d James Marbles Intact Morrow.
Speaker 3: And I'm Rita Panahi And soon we'll be.
Speaker 4: Delving into the world of net Zany with revelations that
Speaker 4: the Antarctic ice sheet, rather than disappearing, has lately shown
Speaker 4: signs of record breaking growth.
Speaker 3: But first, this week, as Donald.
Speaker 4: Trump was negotiating trade deals with the UK and brokering
Speaker 4: peace between Pakistan and India, we heard from the former
Speaker 4: Leader of the Free World, who, together with chief Elder
Speaker 4: abuse enabler Doctor Jill, appeared on the Lunatic Asylum masquerading
Speaker 4: as a TV show called The View. This was to
Speaker 4: show that far from being a puppet President Joe Biden
Speaker 4: was and is cognitively sound sharp as attack. It went
Speaker 4: about as well as you'd expect.
Speaker 10: The project the benefits the world having best instructional How
Speaker 10: do you need the world without of the best healthcare role?
Speaker 10: How do you need the world without having the best
Speaker 10: educations in life?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have that and no idea what he is
Speaker 3: trying to say.
Speaker 4: They're not even sure that our doctor Jill can interpret
Speaker 4: that mess. But Jill did step in to save the
Speaker 4: day when Biden was eventually asked about his mental decline.
Speaker 4: Poor Joe rattled off some lies about an insurrection, blamed
Speaker 4: Trump for the COVID pandemic unleashed by.
Speaker 3: China, before handballing the question to Jill.
Speaker 1: This is just.
Speaker 11: Sad, deeply sourced from democratic sources that claim in your
Speaker 11: final year there was a dramatic decline in your cognitive
Speaker 11: abilities in the final year of your presidency. What is
Speaker 11: your response to these allegations? Are these sources wrong?
Speaker 10: They are wrong. There's nothing to sustain that number one.
Speaker 10: Number two, you know, think of what we were left with.
Speaker 10: We left with the circumstance where we had an insurrection.
Speaker 10: I started not sense the civil war. We had a
Speaker 10: circumstance where we were in a position that we well,
Speaker 10: the pandemic because of the incompetence of the last outfit,
Speaker 10: end up over a million people dying, million people dying.
Speaker 10: And we're also in a situation where we found ourselves
Speaker 10: unable to deal with a lot of just basic issues.
Speaker 10: And I won't go into it in interest of time.
Speaker 10: And so we went to work and we got it done.
Speaker 10: And you know one of the things that that well.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, one of the things I think is
Speaker 9: that the people who wrote those books were not in
Speaker 9: the White House with us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks, Jill.
Speaker 4: Yes, it really was that pitiful as Joe and Jill
Speaker 4: sat there and claimed that he would have won the
Speaker 4: election if he ran against Trump. And when I asked
Speaker 4: why Kamala Harris didn't manage to prevail for the answer
Speaker 4: was as predictable as it was asinine.
Speaker 10: I wasn't surprised because they went the route of the
Speaker 10: sexistuit of the whole room. I mean, this is a woman,
Speaker 10: she's this, she's that. I really I've never seen quite
Speaker 10: as successful and a consistent campaign under cutting the notion
Speaker 10: that a woman couldn't lead the country, and a woman
Speaker 10: of mixed race, and they played that a failure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kamala squandered one point eight billion to lose every
Speaker 4: swing state, to lose the Electoral College and the popular
Speaker 4: vote because of racism and sexism.
Speaker 3: If that appearance on the view was to prove to.
Speaker 4: The American people that the Democrats and their propaganda arms
Speaker 4: in the media didn't cover up the biggest scandal in
Speaker 4: modern history that the President of the United States, the
Speaker 4: commander in chief, was mentally incapable of performing the role well,
Speaker 4: if that was the goal, it was a massive failure
Speaker 4: because every doubt you had about Joe Biden was confirmed
Speaker 4: by that appearance. And let's be honest, Yeah, Biden's cognitive
Speaker 4: decline didn't occur in the final year of his presidency.
Speaker 4: It was evident, clearly evident during the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 3: Campaign and even well before that. Remember this, and it
Speaker 3: get hard.
Speaker 12: I got lin it, I got hairy legs.
Speaker 13: That turned that that that that that turn blonde in
Speaker 13: the sun.
Speaker 1: And the kids used to come up and reach in
Speaker 1: the pool and.
Speaker 7: Rub my leg down.
Speaker 13: So it was training that watch the hair come back
Speaker 13: up again.
Speaker 1: They look at it. So I learned about roaches.
Speaker 13: I learned about kids jumping on my lap, and I
Speaker 13: loved kids jumping on my lap.
Speaker 4: Look, he learned about roaches, He learned about kids jumping
Speaker 4: on his lap, and he loved kids jumping on his.
Speaker 3: What's so hard to about that? I mean, corn Pop
Speaker 3: gets it.
Speaker 13: Corn Pop was a bad dude and he ran a
Speaker 13: bunch of bad boys, and I did.
Speaker 12: And back in those days and shot things have changed.
Speaker 1: One of the things he had to use.
Speaker 13: If you use palmate and your hair, you had to
Speaker 13: wear a baby cap and so he was up on
Speaker 13: the board, wouldn't listen. I said, hey, Esther, you off
Speaker 13: the board. I'll come up and drag you off. And
Speaker 13: I walked up to my car and they had those days,
Speaker 13: used to remember the street race. You bang them on
Speaker 13: the curb, Get him rusty, put him in the rain barrel,
Speaker 13: get him rusty. And I looked at him. But I
Speaker 13: was smart then.
Speaker 1: I was smart.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, Joe, you were smart back then with the
Speaker 4: rusty raizor blades in the rain barrel. But sadly, you,
Speaker 4: whoever pulled your strings, presided over the most disastrous presidency.
Speaker 3: In modern his streets.
Speaker 4: Time to go back to the beach you spent most
Speaker 4: of your presidency at and allow forty seven to clean
Speaker 4: up your mess.
Speaker 1: Fantastic and it's so good those clips. And we were
Speaker 1: talking all the time. We talked about Biden's decline here
Speaker 1: on this show, Donkey Byte for years, years and years,
Speaker 1: and right wing trumpions, oh, I don't understand what a
Speaker 1: great president Biden is.
Speaker 6: Wall you remember that when they would saying, oh, you
Speaker 6: know that was fake news. And remember there it was
Speaker 6: the moment like deep fake and all this sort of thing,
Speaker 6: and there was a moment at the G seven, remember
Speaker 6: when he wandered off and the Manuel about Crown just
Speaker 6: had to Cady go like this and pull it back
Speaker 6: in the frame because he just going over and he
Speaker 6: was sort of saluting the air somewhere and it was
Speaker 6: like Wall's and they were like, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: this is fake news. This has been deceptively edited and everybody.
Speaker 5: So here's the thing.
Speaker 6: All of these commentators, all of the people who are
Speaker 6: writing these books and all these expose as now, they
Speaker 6: were the ones who were saying that, oh, you know,
Speaker 6: these probably fine.
Speaker 5: And remember Joe Scarborough for.
Speaker 6: MESSNBC, this Joe Biden is the best Joe Biden.
Speaker 7: Probably He made.
Speaker 4: Another big call this week, so he said the AOC
Speaker 4: was very the leader of the Democrats, the future visionary.
Speaker 6: Please God, yes, please AOC be the future of the Democrats.
Speaker 4: The rewriting of history here is incredible. Then you've got
Speaker 4: a figure like Jake Tapper, who was part of this
Speaker 4: cover up, who facilitated it, who attacked people who questioned
Speaker 4: Joe Biden's cognitive decline when he pends a book saying no, no,
Speaker 4: this was terrible and I had nothing to do with
Speaker 4: it please.
Speaker 3: You cannot allow that she fixed.
Speaker 5: That was the free.
Speaker 1: Now I want to talk more about the leadership because
Speaker 1: the leadership of the Liberal Party is absolutely critical. And
Speaker 1: if you're in the Liberal Party and you don't understand
Speaker 1: how important this is to the people of Australia. If
Speaker 1: you think it's some sort of tricky thing to advance yourself,
Speaker 1: forget yourself on or the focus groups or your mates,
Speaker 1: the investor group or whatever. You're making a huge mistake.
Speaker 1: If you get this wrong. You really let Australians down.
Speaker 1: You let them down last weekend. Don't let them down
Speaker 1: again this week. Just going to say a couple of things.
Speaker 1: Campbell Newman has sent me a text talking about Susan Lay,
Speaker 1: and I'll quote Campbell Newman from when he was so
Speaker 1: the Federal Environment Minister that this is talking about Susan Lay,
Speaker 1: a federal Environment minister that overturned Campbell's high value a
Speaker 1: project that his governments had approved for Cape York. It
Speaker 1: was meant to provide real jobs and economic opportunity for
Speaker 1: Aboriginal people in remote communities. And Susan Lay was led
Speaker 1: by the nose by Canberra bureaucrats in the Department and
Speaker 1: killed the project using the environmental protection et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 1: absolutely disgraceful. In Campbell Newman's opinion, he goes on with
Speaker 1: some other things as well. I'd just like to say
Speaker 1: about Angus Taylor. I thought pretty much the only highlight
Speaker 1: during the election campaign, with the various debates and so on,
Speaker 1: was how Angus Taylor took the fights up to Jim Chalmers.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a very impressive debate. I thought
Speaker 1: that was one of the few highlights though.
Speaker 6: Sorry, can I just inject a little bit of you know,
Speaker 6: we just we all just watched the same campaign here,
Speaker 6: and just a moment ago, we were talking about the
Speaker 6: economic policies, you know that the Liberals brought to the
Speaker 6: table and I'm sorry, but you know, he was the
Speaker 6: shadow treasurer, and what did we have in the way
Speaker 6: of prosecuting a real case for tax cuts and smaller governments.
Speaker 6: You know, they got all modeled up on working for
Speaker 6: home and you know, cashier in public service. That was it,
Speaker 6: and then you know you get a little bit of
Speaker 6: fuel excise tax cut. They really really really need to
Speaker 6: get their act together in terms of really figuring out
Speaker 6: There was a chart in The Economist this week they
Speaker 6: worked out that Australia has more public service per capita
Speaker 6: than just about any other developed nation.
Speaker 1: And it was a year ago that I had Angus
Speaker 1: Taylor at a Liberal Party event which I hosted. It
Speaker 1: was a debate where he clearly made the point that
Speaker 1: it would be Liberal Party policy to cut the number
Speaker 1: of public servants in Candra by thirty six thousand, and
Speaker 1: that was a commitment. Now, you can blame Angus Taylor
Speaker 1: and you can blame Susan Lee, both of them were
Speaker 1: deputies in the election campaign, but the blame has to
Speaker 1: sit with the lead of Peter Dutton and the HQ
Speaker 1: that ran that. Yes, of course criticize a lot of
Speaker 1: you're right to criticize, but any criticism I'm afraid that
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party have to be recognized that any criticism
Speaker 1: of Angus Taylor, they can also apply to Susan Lay
Speaker 1: who is the deputy during that election.
Speaker 4: Of course, but I think in my mind Angus Taylor's
Speaker 4: performance during the election campaign was underwhelming, to put it mildly,
Speaker 4: But if the choice is between him and Susan Lay,
Speaker 4: well it's Angus Taylor every day of the week and
Speaker 4: twice on Sundays.
Speaker 3: It's no question. If you want to rebuild the party,
Speaker 3: if you want.
Speaker 4: To actually have any chance of holding labor accountable for
Speaker 4: the next three years and actually being in a position
Speaker 4: to take a policy platform that sound to the next.
Speaker 3: Election, you need to start today.
Speaker 4: You can't just write off the next couple of years
Speaker 4: and say well, we'll have a different leader by the
Speaker 4: time the election.
Speaker 1: Into what we're wrong.
Speaker 3: To start get running exactly.
Speaker 4: And I think I'm going to be talking to just
Speaker 4: into an Abergen Price shortly. But Angus Taylor, just Enterprise,
Speaker 4: that's the team to rebuild the Liberal Party.
Speaker 1: That's what excites the liberal part of the voters out there,
Speaker 1: Coalition voters out there. There is no question. If I
Speaker 1: don't know what your two inboxes are like, but my
Speaker 1: my in box has been flooded with people going, yes, please,
Speaker 1: we want Matt Canavan, we want just enter Price, and
Speaker 1: we want as you said, we'd rather Angus Taylor any
Speaker 1: day over. So you know what's going to happen if
Speaker 1: if you want, if you want your focus groups listen
Speaker 1: to the actual people of Australia. That's who usual.
Speaker 6: But there's a real danger though, I mean, think about
Speaker 6: what happens if Susan Lay does get up as leader,
Speaker 6: and let's think about what happens then if Matt Canavan
Speaker 6: gets up as leader in the NATS, what happens to
Speaker 6: the coalition?
Speaker 4: Hoped that coalition possibly hold. Only last year Susan Lay
Speaker 4: was attacking Matt Canavan over that gender wage gap report
Speaker 4: because Matt Canavan and Alexantique and others very smartly actually
Speaker 4: had a look at it, saw the massive flaws in
Speaker 4: the entire report, suggesting that you know, women are being
Speaker 4: systematically discriminated against doing exactly the same roles, the same hours,
Speaker 4: but getting paid less when we know that's not happening
Speaker 4: when you actually look at what the data represents. And
Speaker 4: that's just one issue, but just about on every consequential issue, James,
Speaker 4: I think there's a split between those twos.
Speaker 5: There's a very big difference.
Speaker 6: But you know, there's also a real worry because within
Speaker 6: the Liberal Party, and I know coming out of New
Speaker 6: South Wales and the moderate wing of the party here
Speaker 6: in New South Wales, there is a push on to
Speaker 6: make sure that whoever the leader is basically abandons any
Speaker 6: difference between the Liberals and the Labor Party on energy.
Speaker 6: It says we will just go along with Labour's targets
Speaker 6: and take that issue entirely off the table as a
Speaker 6: point of difference. Now, big renewables investors will do very
Speaker 6: very well.
Speaker 5: Off that the rest of us not so much.
Speaker 6: And that's why we need that point of difference on energy,
Speaker 6: because energy is just a transfer of Well, just quick
Speaker 6: to these go.
Speaker 1: No, I'll just pick up on James's one hundred percent
Speaker 1: correct and we will know on Tuesday if the Liberal
Speaker 1: Party go for Susan Leigh and ignore the opportunity of
Speaker 1: Angus Taylor and just enterprise. You, the Liberal Party, have
Speaker 1: shown that you are completely in the pocket of the
Speaker 1: renewables investors. You're no different to the Teals. That is
Speaker 1: what you will prove to us on Tuesday. It's up
Speaker 1: to you. You either support the people of Australia or
Speaker 1: you support your renewables investors mates in the hedge funds.
Speaker 1: Your choice, but we are watching and we will not
Speaker 1: let you forget that choice ever.
Speaker 4: And let's not forget also, because the Liberals have now
Speaker 4: lost two elections embracing net zero. Before that that had
Speaker 4: a climate change election, they won the winnable election nineteen
Speaker 4: because they said we are going to prioritize affordability and
Speaker 4: reliability over emission targets. Now they won that debate. That
Speaker 4: wasn't that long ago. That was not that long ago,
Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. Since then, we saw Scott Morrison last time
Speaker 4: we betrayed.
Speaker 1: He did a U turn, he for traded. I'll be
Speaker 1: talking about that and shortly. But yeah, absolutely one hundred
Speaker 1: percent from Rita and this Liberal Party. All eyes of
Speaker 1: Australia are on you. You back your renewables investors, mates, and
Speaker 1: we will never ever ever let you forget it. So
Speaker 1: make the right choice. We're going to take a short
Speaker 1: break now, Sorry, we'll be coming back and lots more
Speaker 1: to talk about. Let's any and we'll have just Center
Speaker 1: Price on the show shortly in a tea. You're watching Outsiders,
Speaker 1: and thank you so much for watching Outsiders every Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: And Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there.
Speaker 1: We have many mums who love watching Outsiders and we
Speaker 1: really appreciate the fact that you do. Net Zany is
Speaker 1: the zany world of net zero. We were talking about
Speaker 1: it with Matt Canavan earlier. Net zero policies are an
Speaker 1: absolute obsenity. What they're doing to people. But it's all
Speaker 1: based on the premise that the ice caps are all
Speaker 1: going to melt and that the seas are all going
Speaker 1: to rise, and this doomsday scenario on this show. We've
Speaker 1: never accepted that premise. And now we learn that the
Speaker 1: James Nrita, the Antarctic ice has made a surprising rebound
Speaker 1: in mass. Sciences say and antactic ice sheet has shown
Speaker 1: signs of record breaking growth after decades of contributing to
Speaker 1: global sea level rise. Yeah, has experts revealed their theories why.
Speaker 1: I study published in Science China Earth reveals between twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one and twenty twenty three, the AIS gained mass
Speaker 1: at a rate of one hundred and eight gigatons per year,
Speaker 1: a remarkable reversal from previously RITA games Well, yes.
Speaker 3: Record breaking growth.
Speaker 4: We have to send out commiserations to the little doom goblin,
Speaker 4: Greta Thunberg. She will be devastated, but you know what,
Speaker 4: she's moved on to other issues. She's got Palestine pro
Speaker 4: Palestinian anti Israeli activists these days, so maybe she doesn't
Speaker 4: care about this.
Speaker 5: Maybe she's good.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm just waiting to find out which side
Speaker 6: in India Pakistan is going to take because you know.
Speaker 1: That's a hard one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a hard one.
Speaker 4: A lot of the lefties who you know, very eager
Speaker 4: to put little symbols on there.
Speaker 6: We haven't had any flags in anybody's Twitter.
Speaker 5: Pakistan.
Speaker 6: I stand with India where I need to know what
Speaker 6: do I put in my ex head or to show
Speaker 6: that's a good right on person.
Speaker 1: Someone who has not been such a good right on
Speaker 1: person was the BBC James who they've edited. So they
Speaker 1: tried to claim that they have made some net zero claims.
Speaker 1: It turned out to be false.
Speaker 4: Well, they corrected Richard Tye, the from Reform UK, the
Speaker 4: Deputy leaded there. He said only four percent of global
Speaker 4: warming was you know, tripable attributable to mankind, man made,
Speaker 4: and very quickly corrected by Fiona Bruce, the host of
Speaker 4: the program, saying oh no, no, no, it's thirty percent
Speaker 4: or whatever. She and they've just quietly gone back and
Speaker 4: edited that out because yeah, it turns out, yeah, Richard
Speaker 4: Tys may have been right.
Speaker 1: That's of course he was right, and that's it's worth
Speaker 1: making the point that reform in the UK is absolutely
Speaker 1: going gangbusters. As we've talked about last week with Myron
Speaker 1: and you'll be seeing a lot more of that. And
Speaker 1: it's based on tackling net zero, which in the UK
Speaker 1: is devastating life in the UK, and even Tony Blair
Speaker 1: has come out and said oop net zero, that's that's
Speaker 1: got to go. So it is a political issue and
Speaker 1: Australians want to bury the Liberal Party wants to bury
Speaker 1: their head in the sand and to point someone like
Speaker 1: Susan Lee to be the Lee. It's Lee apparently Lee.
Speaker 1: But the way she spells the name two s is
Speaker 1: in Susan, which is Suzanne to me, but no, it's
Speaker 1: too you know why, it's the two s's. You know why?
Speaker 5: Why is that?
Speaker 1: Because she believes in numerology, and numerology is this weird
Speaker 1: thing that went on through the advertising world in the nineties,
Speaker 1: which is why if you put an extra letter in
Speaker 1: your name, you get an extra number and that adds
Speaker 1: up to whatever. It's Sorry, Reds and Marcus Jackson can sus.
Speaker 6: And been on this here because you know what's really
Speaker 6: funny to be here about, you know, labor and the
Speaker 6: left of the Greaves and all the sort of the
Speaker 6: woke left media out there, is that they have it
Speaker 6: picked up on this bit of New age wo. If
Speaker 6: you get a politician, well, I've seen a few attempts
Speaker 6: in some you know, dirt sheets to put it out there,
Speaker 6: but you know, pretty much they've left that one alone.
Speaker 6: It's so funny because it's like, you know, if she'd
Speaker 6: gone out there and said, oh, I have a professed
Speaker 6: Bible believing Christian, it's like they'd be going like, oh, new.
Speaker 5: Berology, Yeah, okay, we can talk there. You know you
Speaker 5: got a new age WU.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine getting up yes in my name because
Speaker 4: that's going to change what precisely.
Speaker 1: Which it's like astrology and type numbers in the universe
Speaker 1: R H I T A.
Speaker 3: Because it's like the letter h.
Speaker 6: Hey, can we tell you it's a club your university think
Speaker 6: which the university thing?
Speaker 3: But can we just say about our friend Susan two.
Speaker 5: Ss yes please.
Speaker 1: I call it? This goes with that, as this goes
Speaker 1: with that at Susanne, Yes, we've got the ad we
Speaker 1: might have before we do that. We got there and.
Speaker 5: We don't have the singer for you.
Speaker 1: This goes with that at Susan. So at the party room,
Speaker 1: they could go, well, let's this goes with that Anderson
Speaker 1: just sent.
Speaker 4: The alternative prime minister thinking that adding letters to your
Speaker 4: name random Lee at the age of forty odd fifty
Speaker 4: odd is going to change your fortunes. And let's not
Speaker 4: forget the reason she was demoted. And there was a
Speaker 4: fairly significant political scandal over using taxpayer funds to travel
Speaker 4: to Queensland to purchase a investment property. Again, that is
Speaker 4: something that hasn't been spoken about much. But I guess
Speaker 4: what if she becomes leader and we talked about incessantly,
Speaker 4: So let's just put it all.
Speaker 3: On the table.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, Wacademia, James, You've got a good story.
Speaker 5: Oh I love this here.
Speaker 6: So Columbia University, which of course was you know, one
Speaker 6: of the brown zeros of at the Semitic jee hatred
Speaker 6: and pro Hamas pro Hezbollah protesting last year. Well, now
Speaker 6: you know the Trump administration has come out and said
Speaker 6: we're going to cut some of these grants here that
Speaker 6: we've been giving you. Now you're seeing some protests that
Speaker 6: they've just had this past week at Columbia, and now
Speaker 6: as a result, they're going to be saying they're going
Speaker 6: to cut as many as one hundred day staff members.
Speaker 6: Now't know whether it's professors or janitors or God helpers,
Speaker 6: some of those bloated administrators that have helped run Columbia
Speaker 6: down from a proud institution to what you're.
Speaker 5: Seeing on your screen.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 5: The fascinating thing here two things.
Speaker 6: Number one, Columbia has a fourteen point eight billion dollar
Speaker 6: US endowment, so that's like twenty billion Australian dollars. So
Speaker 6: like the idea that a few government grants is going
Speaker 6: to cause them great pain and penury, it's.
Speaker 5: A bit of a nonsense.
Speaker 6: But the other thing too, when you saw those protests
Speaker 6: there on the screen, well, this time around, rather than
Speaker 6: letting the protesters come in and destroy the library and
Speaker 6: in camp for days and weeks and months, instead, this
Speaker 6: time the universe said, okay, we've actually got to get serious.
Speaker 5: They lock the protesters.
Speaker 6: In the library, only let them out if they had
Speaker 6: a university ID, and the dozens and dozens who didn't
Speaker 6: were arrested for trespassing. Many of them are in the
Speaker 6: country on visas, and the Secretary of State has said
Speaker 6: we are kicking them out. So I think that there
Speaker 6: has been a real sea change in the way universities
Speaker 6: of America deal with this stuff. And it is about time.
Speaker 6: And that's a really good change that we are seeing
Speaker 6: under the trop administration.
Speaker 3: Just a side note on that.
Speaker 4: What was interesting the numbers who were arrested that day
Speaker 4: and identified overwhelmingly female.
Speaker 3: And again we've got to not discount liberal.
Speaker 4: Maybe if the liberal has just become a little bit
Speaker 4: more left wing, all these feral far left women will
Speaker 4: start voting for them.
Speaker 3: That is something we've got to start talking about.
Speaker 4: We are seeing men, young men increasingly go right, but
Speaker 4: we are also seeing young women.
Speaker 3: Go very left.
Speaker 4: And this activist left is feral left phenomenon amongst leftist women,
Speaker 4: I think is something that's under discussed.
Speaker 1: I agree we need to discuss it after the break.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a short break after the break.
Speaker 1: Senator just Center Caampa Gym for Price joins us in
Speaker 1: a tick. Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rita stand for
Speaker 1: nothing and you'll lose Panahe James, mediocrity is death. Morrow
Speaker 1: and myself Rowan ban the bedwetters Dean. Over the next
Speaker 1: forty eight hours, the Coalition opposition has a chance to
Speaker 1: turn the savage loss of last weekend into a victory
Speaker 1: for the future. I have long argued that there is
Speaker 1: plenty of great conservative talent on the opposition ventures most
Speaker 1: but by no means all of it in the Senate,
Speaker 1: and that what the Coalition leadership and HQ keep offering
Speaker 1: us is not what the people actually want. All of
Speaker 1: this will change if Matt Canavan becomes Leader of the Nationals,
Speaker 1: and just since a NAMPA Jim Price becomes deputy leader
Speaker 1: to Angus Taylor. Leaving the Liberal Party in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: Tony Abbott, a conservative conviction politician who espoused Mensian values
Speaker 1: and spoke common sense one government for the Coalition in
Speaker 1: a landslide.
Speaker 14: I can inform you that the government of Australia has
Speaker 14: changed for just the.
Speaker 12: Seven you obviously enjoyed hearing it. So let me say
Speaker 12: it again. The Government of Australia has.
Speaker 1: Changed weirdly and unforgivably and twenty fifteen are kind of
Speaker 1: collective madness to call the Liberal Party, and that's being polite.
Speaker 1: That landslide winning Conservative Prime Minister Tony was replaced by
Speaker 1: a man of no conservative convictions who had even toyed
Speaker 1: with joining the Labor Party, a man beloved of the
Speaker 1: ABC and The Guardian. His career spawned in the hedge
Speaker 1: fund world of Goldman, Sachs and the dot com boom,
Speaker 1: and from that moment the rot set in. Since that time,
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party has been cursed by slick marketing, focus
Speaker 1: group driven types who use the Liberal and National parties
Speaker 1: not for the benefit of mensies, forgotten people, not for
Speaker 1: Howard's battler's, not for Tony's trades, but for a kind
Speaker 1: of globalist renewables investment, progressive, woke, labour light teal wanta
Speaker 1: be crowd who are only interested in what their mates
Speaker 1: and the hedge funds tell them to do. At the
Speaker 1: following election in twenty sixteen, Malcolm Turnbull lost nearly all
Speaker 1: of Abbot's seats. He then sulked in his Harbourside mansion
Speaker 1: all night long and had to be coaxed out by
Speaker 1: Alan Jones to come and deliver what was a bitter
Speaker 1: and angry victory speech.
Speaker 15: But by this stage it's about midnight, and eventually he
Speaker 15: has to go to the hotel. He arrives too late,
Speaker 15: too unhappy. One of the paradoxes is he's won the election,
Speaker 15: but he acts as though he's lost the election.
Speaker 1: Malcolm Turnbull then wasted most of his prime ministership on
Speaker 1: frivolities like same sex marriage and trying to cobble together
Speaker 1: a failed energy policy which clearly the public were unimpressed by,
Speaker 1: so much so that the Liberals then turf Turnbull outs
Speaker 1: and installed Scott Morrison. Turnbull wallowed in self pity and
Speaker 1: self delusion, telling my old boss at the Spectator, Andrew Neil,
Speaker 1: that he'd been dumped, discarded like a spare dish on
Speaker 1: a lazy Susan because the Liberals feared Malcolm would win election.
Speaker 16: But you were famously the centrist MP, and yet you
Speaker 16: were still the fourth Australian Prime minister in eight years
Speaker 16: to be discarded. Well you're got an example of a
Speaker 16: centrism in retreat.
Speaker 1: Well well yeah, but basically you could argue that their
Speaker 1: concern was not that I would lose the election, but
Speaker 1: rather that I would win it.
Speaker 16: You're telling me your own party didn't want you to
Speaker 16: win the next lee.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just saying if you analyze credit. Well yeah, no,
Speaker 1: Andrew Neil was right, that was not credible. But the
Speaker 1: point here, jokes aside, is that as Andrew Neil had spotted,
Speaker 1: Turnbull was the Altar's centrist. He represented the whole concept
Speaker 1: of a centrist government as opposed to a conservative one.
Speaker 1: I'll get back to that in a minute. Scott Morrison,
Speaker 1: who replaced Malcolm Turnble, went on to win the twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen miracle election, as I and Iileen had predicted he would.
Speaker 1: I have always believed in miracles, except, of course, it
Speaker 1: was no miracle. Morrison won because he promised not to
Speaker 1: go any further on net zero than Australia had already
Speaker 1: committed to. He repeatedly maintained throughout the twenty nineteen election
Speaker 1: campaign that Australia would comply with what it had already
Speaker 1: signed up to, but would go no further. This was
Speaker 1: not a centrist position, This was an acceptable Conservative compromise position.
Speaker 1: But to use a biblical metaphor, as Scott Morrison was
Speaker 1: so fond of, eighteen months after his miracle election, at
Speaker 1: COP twenty six in Glasgow, Morrison became Judas Iscariot and
Speaker 1: betrayed the solemn pledge he had made to the Australian
Speaker 1: people and his Conservative supporters. In particular, he signed us
Speaker 1: up to net zero. Why because both he and Josh
Speaker 1: Fredenberg repeatedly told us some obscure hedge fund managers overseas
Speaker 1: had told them to so forget the Aussie butler Scomo
Speaker 1: was now dancing to the so called centrist moderate tune
Speaker 1: of the overseas investment mob. The world is changing and
Speaker 1: the world's response to climate change is changing the world.
Speaker 1: It is changing the global economy. What nonsense. It was
Speaker 1: a catastrophic mistake. Morrison made a fool of himself at
Speaker 1: the Glasgow conference and never recovered from that fundamental, fatal
Speaker 1: betrayal of the Australian people. Seven months later he was
Speaker 1: ditched and defeated by Anthony Albanesi.
Speaker 17: Would a coalition government remain in the Paris courts, Yes,
Speaker 17: we will, and I've said that.
Speaker 1: I'll get back to that in a second. Meanwhile, even
Speaker 1: Tony Blair in Britain is now advising dumping net zero,
Speaker 1: as Trump, China, Russia, India and all the large industrial
Speaker 1: economies are doing. After Scott Morrison, we've got Peter Dutton.
Speaker 1: Peter Dutton pledged to remain in that Paris agreement regardless
Speaker 1: as you just saw, of the incredible financial harm it
Speaker 1: is doing to everyday Australian households. Excited to stay in
Speaker 1: complete madness, The lesson here for the Coalition should be simple.
Speaker 1: Every time they have gone down the so called centrist
Speaker 1: moderate route, governed by focus groups, driven by pandering to
Speaker 1: the ABC and the Guardian, and by fear of the
Speaker 1: left so called progressive zeitgeist, they have been soundly defeated
Speaker 1: or just narrowly scraped in. In nearly twenty years, the
Speaker 1: Coalition have only had two impressive victories, both born of conviction.
Speaker 1: Every other election recentrist small target, don't rock the boat,
Speaker 1: pander to the left, listen to the focus group's platform
Speaker 1: or candidate the Coalition have run has failed abysmally.
Speaker 5: Now, we didn't do well enough during this campaign.
Speaker 1: That much is obvious tonight and I accept for responsibility
Speaker 1: for that. No, PD, you certainly did not do well enough.
Speaker 1: You actually deceived us, we the Australian people. You were
Speaker 1: a conservative during the Voice or pretended to be, which
Speaker 1: you won handsomely, and then veered straight back into the
Speaker 1: Labor lights center where you lost disastrously. We were all
Speaker 1: duked into thinking you might actually pursue an anti labor,
Speaker 1: aggressive conservative and common sense agenda, but you didn't. You
Speaker 1: made a joke of Australia by scampering away from anything
Speaker 1: vaguely who Trump and worms so scared even the wonderful
Speaker 1: statement make Australia great again. How could you argue with that?
Speaker 1: Because some snotty kid running a focus group told you
Speaker 1: it was boxic to be associated with Donald Trump. Peter Dutton,
Speaker 1: when the chips were down, was just another moderate, just
Speaker 1: another centrist, driven by fear of the focus groups, fear
Speaker 1: of the ABC and fear of the Guardian, fear of
Speaker 1: the left not good enough. This was an election driven
Speaker 1: by fear, and the punters spotted it. You could see
Speaker 1: it in Peter Dutton's eyes every time he spoke on
Speaker 1: that miserable campaign. You could see it in the eyes
Speaker 1: of those few MPs permitted to say just a few
Speaker 1: words hope, I don't get it wrong. If I may
Speaker 1: paraphrase my mate Rich show, Eventually the mob will see
Speaker 1: the fear in your eyes. If the Nationals and Liberals
Speaker 1: now this week are idiotic enough to elect yet more
Speaker 1: so called centrist or moderates to lead them, you are doomed.
Speaker 1: Coalition MPs have a very clear choice this week in
Speaker 1: both party rooms. Centrism monitorism has brought you nothing but
Speaker 1: grief and failure, and more importantly, centrism has let down
Speaker 1: the silent majority of Australians who long to vote for
Speaker 1: conservative common sense values time after time. From the high
Speaker 1: point of twenty thirteen, it's been a long, slow, miserable decline,
Speaker 1: fueled by pandering to moderates to the misery of last weekend.
Speaker 1: If the Coalition want the voters to return the lesson
Speaker 1: is crystal clear. Change tac and elect conservative leaders who
Speaker 1: will fight too and nail for true conservative common sense
Speaker 1: values unashamedly, not fearful. Those values at Menzies fought for
Speaker 1: for the forgotten people being crushed yet again under the
Speaker 1: oppressive socialist nightmare of a labor government. I urge all
Speaker 1: Australians who care about this country that I view on
Speaker 1: the Coalition to win back government from this labor horror show,
Speaker 1: not in nine years, not six years, but in less
Speaker 1: than three years. The fight begins today, It begins tonight.
Speaker 1: It begins when you have leaders who are fearless, who
Speaker 1: understand everyday Australians and who will fight for them with passion,
Speaker 1: with verve, with common sense, and refuse absolutely refuse to
Speaker 1: endlessly pander to the camera bubble of focus groups and
Speaker 1: research power points just sent to Nampa. Jimba Price won
Speaker 1: the hearts and minds of two thirds of the nation
Speaker 1: during the astonishing Voice referendum. She is from the bush,
Speaker 1: her upbringing an astonishing and unique Australian tale. She is
Speaker 1: that rare politician, a person who is smart as a whip,
Speaker 1: but just speaks good old faired incer mo osie common
Speaker 1: sense and cuts through all the political bs coalition and died.
Speaker 1: The country are blessed to have her in our parliament.
Speaker 1: Both Matt Canavan and Angus Taylor are born leaders nothing
Speaker 1: from both from the bush, both rock solid Conservatives who
Speaker 1: aren't beholden to the big end of wokedown. So I
Speaker 1: say contact your Liberal and national local MPs today tomorrow
Speaker 1: and urge them to elect Matt Canavan to the leadership
Speaker 1: with nat Angus Taylor and just sent the NAMPA Jimper
Speaker 1: Price to lead the Libs. Let's make Australia great again.
Speaker 1: Did I say that? Speaking of which, Shadow Minister for
Speaker 1: Indigenous Australians just sent a Nampa Jimper Price joins us.
Speaker 1: Now just seems great to see you. Congratulations, You've thrown
Speaker 1: your hat into the ring. For the deputy leadership of
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party. Tell us why tell us what you
Speaker 1: think Australia needs that only you can provide.
Speaker 18: Well, good morning Rowan, and good morning to all the
Speaker 18: sky viewers are today. Yes, I have made the decision,
Speaker 18: and the decision wasn't taken lightly. Of course, I did
Speaker 18: it with a lot of consultation, particularly with my family.
Speaker 18: My family are so important to me, my husband Colin,
Speaker 18: my sons, they are who are important to me, and
Speaker 18: I wanted to make sure that I was doing this
Speaker 18: fully knowing that we were going into this as a family,
Speaker 18: because that is to me a fundamental value that we
Speaker 18: need to get back to, certainly in this country, and
Speaker 18: we need to be able to support families. Now, obviously
Speaker 18: we've had such a heartbreaking loss and from that, you
Speaker 18: know you were right in saying that we ran an
Speaker 18: election driven by fear and that should never have been
Speaker 18: the case because the Australian people could see that some
Speaker 18: of us had some wonderful policies, but we were stifled
Speaker 18: from being able to give that message tell Australians what
Speaker 18: it was we were providing what we had on offer
Speaker 18: and do it with conviction.
Speaker 19: That was a lost opportunity.
Speaker 18: Now after the result of their referendum, it was evident
Speaker 18: what we needed to do.
Speaker 19: Instead of looking at the polls and thinking.
Speaker 18: Look, we're not going to win this, we had to
Speaker 18: get in there and actually change the narrative, lead the
Speaker 18: narrative in the argument, and also hang around the neck
Speaker 18: of the Prime Minister his failings pin his lies to him.
Speaker 19: That is what we needed to do.
Speaker 18: And so, you know, I'm very passionate about our country
Speaker 18: and the direction in which it is going because I've
Speaker 18: seen how socialism has destroyed the lives of those that
Speaker 18: I love in remote communities, and with the Labor government
Speaker 18: now in power for three more years, it is the
Speaker 18: most marginalized who miss out the most, you know, let
Speaker 18: alone every.
Speaker 19: Day Australians in all of this.
Speaker 18: And so I guess the fighter in me feels, you know,
Speaker 18: I'm obliged to step up.
Speaker 19: You know, I've had a blessed life. Although I've overcome much.
Speaker 18: Disadvantage in my life as a single mother who raised
Speaker 18: three kids as a teenage mother, you know who's had
Speaker 18: I've got four beautiful sons. Now I've understood what it
Speaker 18: meant to struggle, but to also understand my own capabilities,
Speaker 18: if you like, I have been a small business owner
Speaker 18: and operator, and the most rewarding thing for me in
Speaker 18: positions like that was providing an opportunity for young people
Speaker 18: to be employed employed, both Indigenous and non Indigenous, and
Speaker 18: watching them realize their own capability.
Speaker 19: That to me has always been the most.
Speaker 18: Rewarding element of what it is that I've whatever it
Speaker 18: is I've been involved in over the years, including you know,
Speaker 18: establishing a women's music program for Indigenous women here in
Speaker 18: Central Australia that's grown right across the territory, to enable
Speaker 18: Indigenous girls and women to buck the trend of being
Speaker 18: told you don't belong in a music room, but to
Speaker 18: establish their own music careers, to establishing and growing the
Speaker 18: women's football league here in Alice Springs and watching young
Speaker 18: women realize their potential out on the footy field. Ultimately,
Speaker 18: this is what I'm driven by, and if we're going
Speaker 18: to be successful going forward, we need to allow Australians
Speaker 18: to realize their own potential, and that is to create
Speaker 18: that environment through good common sense policy for all Australians.
Speaker 18: You know, I'm a mother of four sons, so it's
Speaker 18: not just young women that I want to support.
Speaker 19: I want our young men.
Speaker 18: To realize that they are valued and they are important
Speaker 18: just as well. And so this is what drives me ultimately,
Speaker 18: and given you know what I've faced in my life
Speaker 18: and what I've had to overcome, certainly within my broader
Speaker 18: family as well, this beautiful country has given me those
Speaker 18: opportunities and it is why I stand where I stand now.
Speaker 3: The center of the Liberal Party do have an identity
Speaker 3: crisis right now? How are you going to be part
Speaker 3: of that solution?
Speaker 4: And we're having a lot of folks, a lot of
Speaker 4: some would call them grifters, suggesting that what the Liberals
Speaker 4: need is a quota system. They need to have gender
Speaker 4: quotas like labor. Do are you an advocate for that.
Speaker 18: I'm certainly not an advocate for gender quotas.
Speaker 19: I never have been.
Speaker 18: I'm all for meritocracy. I think that is the way
Speaker 18: we have to move forward. I mean, if you look
Speaker 18: to Labor, you know, they stand up and they sproute
Speaker 18: that they support women. When have they or will they
Speaker 18: ever see put an Indigenous woman in a position where
Speaker 18: she has the opportunity to go for deputy leader of
Speaker 18: their party.
Speaker 19: It's not going to happen for a very long time.
Speaker 18: You know, this is about meritocracy, This is about achievement,
Speaker 18: This is about bringing hope to the Australian people and
Speaker 18: the Liberal Party that we can absolutely rebuild if we
Speaker 18: remember where we've come from and use those values to
Speaker 18: create policy and to move forward. You know it is
Speaker 18: because of Liberal values, you know, the freedom of the individual,
Speaker 18: but responsibility that is the ultimate formula to realize one's
Speaker 18: capacity to achieve and be successful in life, no matter
Speaker 18: what form that looks like. Entrepreneurialism is something that I
Speaker 18: have been pushing, particularly for our most marginalized because they
Speaker 18: are living under socialist rule in remote communities dependent on welfare.
Speaker 18: We as Liberals can provide an environment and change the
Speaker 18: circumstances so that they can become entrepreneurial in their own
Speaker 18: right like other Australians have the opportunity to do. We
Speaker 18: need to believe in those values again and that and
Speaker 18: have the courage to go out there and fight in
Speaker 18: that way.
Speaker 6: James sat I'm listening to you articulate these Liberal values
Speaker 6: in a way that I think is in some ways
Speaker 6: clearer and more precise than many in the Liberal Party
Speaker 6: managed to do during this past campaign, which brings me
Speaker 6: to the question, then, you know, why did you decide
Speaker 6: to make this move across the hall from the Nationals
Speaker 6: to the Liberal Party given that the Liberals have been
Speaker 6: in this identity crisis which some have even suggested is existential,
Speaker 6: And how long had you been considering making this shift.
Speaker 18: Look, this is actually something that I wanted to do
Speaker 18: when I was first elected, but there were some that
Speaker 18: were preventing me from doing so and put a block
Speaker 18: in my way of being able to make that choice.
Speaker 18: And being new to the game, I thought, well, you know,
Speaker 18: I don't want.
Speaker 19: To rock the boat.
Speaker 18: I will follow tradition and do as traditional tradition tells
Speaker 18: as part of the Country Liberal Party to sit in
Speaker 18: the Nationals party room. Don't get me wrong, I am
Speaker 18: love I loved being a national We share the same
Speaker 18: values that I don't see that we don't share the
Speaker 18: same values. I have been very grateful for the opportunities
Speaker 18: that the National Party under David Little Proud's leadership have
Speaker 18: provided me. But I felt in this situation we're faced
Speaker 18: with a crisis and me feeling like inside truly i've
Speaker 18: been a Liberal. I wanted to make that step, and look,
Speaker 18: that step wasn't you know like that. There's been suggestions
Speaker 18: that I was being courted five days before the election.
Speaker 18: That's nonsense. There was no such courting going on. In
Speaker 18: fact this decision. My wonderful husband reminded me, you know
Speaker 18: a few days after the election, remember how you wanted
Speaker 18: to do this, Why don't you consider it this time?
Speaker 18: And I went, you know, you're absolutely right because, and
Speaker 18: I think I've said it before, I tend to be
Speaker 18: one Tom. I guess run toward danger if you like,
Speaker 18: or help out where I can. Ultimately, I want to
Speaker 18: be effective. I want to help, I want to support,
Speaker 18: I want to rebuild, because ultimately I've got more to
Speaker 18: lose in that it's my marginalized family members leaving under
Speaker 18: socialist rule that will continue to suffer under bloated bureaucracies
Speaker 18: that labor. All they do is set up bureaucracies. They
Speaker 18: don't listen to the little people on the ground, but we,
Speaker 18: as part of our liberal values do It's the forgotten
Speaker 18: people we're interested in, not heads of bloated bureaucracies where
Speaker 18: labor funnels money and effectively buys their votes.
Speaker 19: That's not what I'm interested in.
Speaker 18: But this is the fight that we're up against and
Speaker 18: given I've been experiencing this all my life.
Speaker 19: The opportunity is there.
Speaker 18: If I don't take it, it might not come. It's
Speaker 18: one of those things sometimes in life you have to
Speaker 18: you have to take those risks in order.
Speaker 19: For the greater good.
Speaker 1: And just senter. I think people, your critics will go, oh,
Speaker 1: she's just a one trick pony. She did the voice
Speaker 1: and so on. But for me, the critical thing about
Speaker 1: the voice. Obviously I agreed with the outcome, but the
Speaker 1: critical thing was how you took a position where you would.
Speaker 1: Everybody told you you were going to lose. The focus groups,
Speaker 1: the opinion polls, everybody apart from the Spectator, Australian and
Speaker 1: outside has of course told you you were going to lose.
Speaker 1: But you decided you're going to fight this. You put
Speaker 1: everything on the line. You put your reputation, your career,
Speaker 1: everything on the line to fight that. You had the
Speaker 1: help of Warren Mundane, but basically it was the two
Speaker 1: of you who really won that thing and won the
Speaker 1: hearts and minds of Australians. So tell us how you
Speaker 1: would and to me, that marks you out as a warrior,
Speaker 1: and as a warrior that is what we did not
Speaker 1: see in the election campaign. And the most common criticism
Speaker 1: of the Liberal Party or the coalition election campaign is
Speaker 1: where's the fight? Where's the fight to labor? You've spoken
Speaker 1: about taking the fight to labor. How would you do
Speaker 1: that from day one, from Tuesday onwards? How would you
Speaker 1: take the fight to labor?
Speaker 18: Absolutely, in my view, the campaign start right now. It
Speaker 18: started yesterday, because we're already hearing from Labor that the
Speaker 18: soon to be reappointed Treasurer that it's going to take
Speaker 18: apparently it's going to take yet another term, a third term,
Speaker 18: in order to get productivity where it needs to be.
Speaker 18: He's already stating that they're going to fail the Australian people.
Speaker 18: We can't let them get away at any point with
Speaker 18: their broken promises and their lies to the Australian people.
Speaker 19: We've got to highlight the fact that.
Speaker 18: All they rely on is mudslinging. And when that's all
Speaker 18: you've got, when all you have got is to berate someone,
Speaker 18: to call them names, to attack their character, it's because
Speaker 18: you have nothing to offer.
Speaker 19: It is our job.
Speaker 18: As the Liberal Party, as part of the broader coalition,
Speaker 18: to execute that argument effectively and get that clear messaging
Speaker 18: across to the Australian people. And look, can I also
Speaker 18: say that I absolutely endorse Angus Taylor. He is a pragmatic,
Speaker 18: deep thinking individual who I would absolutely be privileged to
Speaker 18: serve beside going forward for the benefit of the Liberal
Speaker 18: Party and the Coalition.
Speaker 19: I'm a coalitionist all the way.
Speaker 18: I'm absolutely for that for being part of the team
Speaker 18: that wants to revive our nation, take back Australia.
Speaker 19: From the clutches of labor that we know going to
Speaker 19: continue to destroy the joint Senator.
Speaker 1: Did you send to Namigmperprize? Good luck on Tuesday? The
Speaker 1: nation will be watching. Thanks so much for coming on Outsiders,
Speaker 1: and I'll remind you as you were on Outsiders many
Speaker 1: many years ago, and it's always great to have you
Speaker 1: here at Senate. Did you send to namigimpro Prize? We
Speaker 1: shall see what happens on Tuesday. What a wonderful woman
Speaker 1: and a great mum. They're on Mother's Day after the break, James, Donkey,
Speaker 1: vibe and tick.
Speaker 6: Hello, you're watching Outsiders with your host Rowan Dean and
Speaker 6: Rita Panty. And of course I'm James Morrow and I
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Speaker 6: hear in Australia woke to the news that the US
Speaker 6: President had inked a deal with British trade negotiators. Trump
Speaker 6: even called reporters into the Oval Office to listen in
Speaker 6: on speakerphone as he made a call with the UK
Speaker 6: Labor Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
Speaker 20: Once again, I want to thank Prime Minister starm He's
Speaker 20: been terrific for his partnership in this matter. The special
Speaker 20: relationship and external bond, it's really an external and an
Speaker 20: internal bond between our two countries will soon be stronger
Speaker 20: than ever before, and we really do. We have a
Speaker 20: great relationship. I want to just say that the representatives
Speaker 20: of UK have been so professional and it's been an
Speaker 20: honor doing business with.
Speaker 1: All of them, and in particular the Prime Minister.
Speaker 6: Well, so good for the US, good for the White House,
Speaker 6: good for Donald Trump. He's finally landed his first post
Speaker 6: tariff's trade deal and the bond markets should be very
Speaker 6: happy about that. Indeed, But while Britain is now getting
Speaker 6: reduced tariffs on its aluminium and steel. Out of this,
Speaker 6: there is something else to note. According to the UK Telegraph,
Speaker 6: the US will now also get a chance to red
Speaker 6: flag major Chinese investments in Britain, a key step as
Speaker 6: it works to rewrite the Global Trading Order to punish
Speaker 6: Beijing for years of currency manipulation, unfair trade practices and
Speaker 6: you know, just general belligerent now. One source quoted by
Speaker 6: the Telegraph said that the clauses would act as a
Speaker 6: sort of veto on Chinese investment, adding that it was
Speaker 6: considered quote extremely important to the US during the trade talks.
Speaker 6: Well you can see where this is going for Albanzi,
Speaker 6: can't you, Because you see Ethny Albanisi is really keen
Speaker 6: to cut a deal with the US and prove that
Speaker 6: he is able to stand up for Australian interests in
Speaker 6: the midst of Trump's trade war. But he also wants
Speaker 6: to prove that he can deal with Trump, who had
Speaker 6: a few nice words to say about him without even
Speaker 6: knowing who Peter Dutton was.
Speaker 20: Ah benis I'm very friendly with I don't know anything
Speaker 20: about the election.
Speaker 5: He's been very very nice to me, very respective to me.
Speaker 5: I have no idea who the other person is that
Speaker 5: ran against him.
Speaker 20: And you know we've had a very good, real.
Speaker 5: Nice warm Well I'm sure Peter doesn't love that.
Speaker 6: But the problem is that in trade negotiations any demand
Speaker 6: to crypt Chinese investment in Australia would really infuriate Beijing, which,
Speaker 6: as Australian farmers, vintnors and coal miners know all too well,
Speaker 6: is willing to punish local producers for any perceived insult
Speaker 6: coming from Candra.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 6: The UK, of course, is in a far better position
Speaker 6: than Australia. I mean, China is Britain's fifth largest trading
Speaker 6: partner and a total two way trade between the pair
Speaker 6: is only a bit more than one tenth that between
Speaker 6: Britain and the EU just.
Speaker 5: Across the channel.
Speaker 6: But Australia, well, here we are a long way away
Speaker 6: from everyone. We don't have that advantage of close major
Speaker 6: trading partners and markets right nearby. So as a result,
Speaker 6: China is by far our latest largest trading partner, and
Speaker 6: the failure of successive governments to wind this back, even
Speaker 6: after COVID give us some big warning on that score,
Speaker 6: means that Beijing has a lot more sway here, So.
Speaker 5: There's an eleven.
Speaker 6: Now for Australia, then, is that as much as our
Speaker 6: political leaders talk tough about stepping up for our sovereignty
Speaker 6: and our interests, the hard economics mean that we have
Speaker 6: far less room to move than we would like Now.
Speaker 6: China happily server navigates our coast and conducts live fire
Speaker 6: exercises in the Tasman. They've issued apoplectic grievance letters that
Speaker 6: amount to attacks on our sovereignty. And all of this
Speaker 6: is not, to be sure, the fault of labor alone,
Speaker 6: though the Albanese government has certainly done everything it can
Speaker 6: to cripple our self reliance by driving up energy costs
Speaker 6: and regulations and paying to service our sorry and making
Speaker 6: our service industry with various slush future funds. But both
Speaker 6: sides of politics have presided over a tremendous decline in
Speaker 6: Australia's ability to actually make things, and both have yet
Speaker 6: to come up and come to grips with the fact
Speaker 6: that not only is the world changing, but that it
Speaker 6: had to change. Trump or not fault Trump's approach all
Speaker 6: you like, but on the big question of China, he
Speaker 6: is fundamentally correct, even The Wall Street Journal, which has
Speaker 6: been very critical of Trump of late, has said that
Speaker 6: the approach outlined by the President and particularly his Treasury
Speaker 6: Secretary Scott Bessett, indicates that he is trying to bring
Speaker 6: allied trading partners together to force Beijing to mend its ways. Australia,
Speaker 6: on the other hand, has blithely let itself become increasingly
Speaker 6: dependent on China, and with the honorable exception of Scott Morrison,
Speaker 6: our leaders have been unwilling to rock the boat.
Speaker 5: Change and choices are coming.
Speaker 6: Trump is leading the way and it is now up
Speaker 6: to Albanisi to manage what is happening correctly.
Speaker 1: Great stuff, Thanks James and James. We now have an
Speaker 1: American pope.
Speaker 6: We do have an American pope. Pope Leo the fourteenth.
Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah, named after Pope Leo the thirteen,
Speaker 1: who was named after Pope Leo the twelfth.
Speaker 7: Ah.
Speaker 1: Yes, But what Pope Leo the thirteenth do well.
Speaker 6: Pobabio the thirteenth was really really interesting here because he
Speaker 6: was the pope from the late eighteen hundred store i
Speaker 6: think nineteen oh eighteen seventy eight to nineteen oh three.
Speaker 6: Lear the thirteenth was a pope who was very much
Speaker 6: about trying to figure out a way to accommodate and
Speaker 6: bring the moral voice of the Catholic Church into a
Speaker 6: world that was rapidly industrializing, and he did that through
Speaker 6: in cyclicals like erm Novarum. Now Lear the fourteenth is
Speaker 6: really interesting. There's a lot of people who say, oh,
Speaker 6: it's just another woke pope in the tradition of Francis.
Speaker 6: But frankly, I'm not so sure. There's a lot of
Speaker 6: signs here that this actually could be a turn away
Speaker 6: from Francis and multi well, you know, Rita, I'll tell
Speaker 6: you this year. His Latin is impeccable. He is actually
Speaker 6: a fan of the Latin Mass, with which Francis hated.
Speaker 5: He has spoken about.
Speaker 6: The church's need to help the world come to grips
Speaker 6: with the new changes that were going through with Ai
Speaker 6: and everything else. And there was a little detail that
Speaker 6: on his pectoral cross when he was announced as pope
Speaker 6: he was wearing a like from a Spanish bishop who
Speaker 6: in nineteen thirty eight was killed by Spanish Marxists in
Speaker 6: the Spanish Civil War.
Speaker 5: Now to me, you are.
Speaker 1: He's also a climate change not he's part of the
Speaker 1: he wants to worship.
Speaker 4: Earth and Mother of Earth, pine about deportation policies.
Speaker 3: I mean, really stick to your knitting.
Speaker 4: So you know what, I'll have a bit more faith
Speaker 4: when he comes out far more strongly than his predecessor
Speaker 4: and says something about the persecution of Christians.
Speaker 6: And let me give you something else. So here's another
Speaker 6: point on that. There was a potential pope in Prolin
Speaker 6: who was the Secretary of State for the Vatican, who
Speaker 6: was the guy who inked a truly evil and sinister
Speaker 6: deal with the Chinese Communist Party. He was knocked out.
Speaker 6: The male is that those first three black smoke ballots
Speaker 6: were all about blocking him, and it was a group
Speaker 6: of American bishops that blocked that guy. So this guy
Speaker 6: is a hell of a lot sounder than this. But
Speaker 6: also I think just everybody out there, you know the
Speaker 6: left right paradigm, that's two hundred year old idea. This
Speaker 6: is a two thousand year old institution. So you know,
Speaker 6: the Church is always going to have a different view,
Speaker 6: probably to us on issues like borders. And that's fine,
Speaker 6: but the fact is trying to put a pope two.
Speaker 1: All of years.
Speaker 3: But opining about climate.
Speaker 1: Change is about climate change worshiping. There we'll get into this.
Speaker 1: I'm going to get speaking of climate change.
Speaker 6: I'm doing showby showby we will I'm doing a segue, James,
Speaker 6: don't interrupt my segment.
Speaker 1: Well, as we go to lefty lunacy and the more
Speaker 1: vandalizing of paintings, this time a three hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: year old painting has been destroyed by these eco climate cultures.
Speaker 3: And actually damaged this one.
Speaker 1: Because we've got a bit of a let's have a look.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 12: Hard to much it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think five years in prison oil not
Speaker 1: just stop oil paintings.
Speaker 4: It's just it's seriously, we need to see a few
Speaker 4: of these serving a decent because going to destroy some
Speaker 4: priceless piece of.
Speaker 3: Art that we just can't allow that to happen.
Speaker 4: They have just got away with this time and time
Speaker 4: again in different countries. They're go in front of these
Speaker 4: leftist judges and give them a slap on the wrist.
Speaker 4: Now it needs to be punished properly. This is a
Speaker 4: domestic terrorism, is what it is.
Speaker 5: Cultural It's worse than domestic. It's cultural terrorism.
Speaker 6: It's actually it is part of the much greater cultural Marxist.
Speaker 5: Project to undermine all of the foundations.
Speaker 6: Of our civilization, of which, of course these great works
Speaker 6: of art that they go out and attack regularly is
Speaker 6: all about. So you know, it has to be seen.
Speaker 6: It's not just about just stop oil. It's about a
Speaker 6: greater cultural project.
Speaker 1: Well, speaking about cultural Marxism. A beautiful portrait done by
Speaker 1: Johannes Leak, the cartoonist on the Australian and their son,
Speaker 1: of course of Bill Leak. He's done. Bill Leek put
Speaker 1: many portraits into the Archibalds. Johannas has now done a
Speaker 1: superb portrait of Alex Rivchin and it's absolutely beautiful and
Speaker 1: it captures the kind of sorrow that Alex Rivchin has
Speaker 1: felt over the last eighteen months since October seventh. But
Speaker 1: the reality, the joke here is that the archieballs did
Speaker 1: not select this. Instead, let's have a look at a
Speaker 1: couple of the pieces they did select. Oh, there's one
Speaker 1: great portrait that was selected. And here's another great portrait
Speaker 1: that was selected by the Archie boys.
Speaker 3: That's no.
Speaker 1: And here this was accepted by the.
Speaker 3: Archie What I think I scribbled that just in the
Speaker 3: air Breaker.
Speaker 1: And that was accepted by the Archibalds.
Speaker 5: So there Ian.
Speaker 1: If you go to visit the Archiballs and see those
Speaker 1: magnificent works of art, what you will not see is
Speaker 1: Johannes leek superb portrait of a man Alex Ripchen at
Speaker 1: a very critical point in our history when anti Semitism
Speaker 1: is right. I've been so disgusting. You can see the
Speaker 1: the sorrow, the fear, the heartbreak, and Alex is the
Speaker 1: pathos on Alex. Thank you, James. And now you were
Speaker 1: a critic, weren't you at one point? There you go
Speaker 1: and you can see that in that work about That's
Speaker 1: what portraits are supposed to do. They're supposed to capture
Speaker 1: a bigger story than just the portrait.
Speaker 3: Why do you think that was a big Let me.
Speaker 1: Get Let's have a guest Leak, son of Bill Leak,
Speaker 1: and a portrait of the Australia's that was most one
Speaker 1: of the Australia's most famous Jews. Oh what do you
Speaker 1: think they were thinking?
Speaker 3: I tell you, I tell you the artists.
Speaker 5: To the style because you know, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Because you can see, you can actually recognize the person
Speaker 1: you hate.
Speaker 6: To sort of gage with the six you don't want
Speaker 6: to sell like a philistine, but an awful lot of
Speaker 6: those paintings that you just showed up there on the
Speaker 6: thing on the screen, they look like they'd be tacked
Speaker 6: up with magnets on somebody's fridge, you know. But putting
Speaker 6: that aside, you know, Bill Leak and your house classically
Speaker 6: trained artists, and you know this is the other thing
Speaker 6: too that I think is the objection, you know, the
Speaker 6: Leak family the subject, but also the classical beauty there.
Speaker 6: And that is that I think that you know that
Speaker 6: that is that is our heritage, that is our artistic heritage.
Speaker 6: And every time we downgrade that, you know, we and
Speaker 6: we celebrate mediocrity. You know, we are taking away.
Speaker 1: Upont And haven't got another segue for you, James, straight
Speaker 1: into the art in New Times Square in New York
Speaker 1: and as well, a similar statue has been put up
Speaker 1: by different artists in Florence, of all places. So there's
Speaker 1: the Times tell us about this, Ja, We're going to
Speaker 1: tell us about Well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this statue of a fictionalized character. I think it's
Speaker 4: around twelve, mildly obese woman.
Speaker 3: It's not a beautiful work.
Speaker 4: Why you would put that up instead of putting up
Speaker 4: something that is I think any public art needs to
Speaker 4: be not just thought provoking. It needs to add some
Speaker 4: esthetic beauty. It needs to make the place better. And
Speaker 4: I think we've lost sight of that both with the
Speaker 4: modern architecture, with some of the modern art. We're seeing
Speaker 4: the sculptures that the element of beauty is almost offensive
Speaker 4: to them.
Speaker 3: They want to have this, and I think.
Speaker 4: It's it's a six society that does not celebrate Square.
Speaker 6: Tim Square is you know, an absolute sewer. It is
Speaker 6: just one of the worst places.
Speaker 1: Like back to your Marxist point earlier, James, that both
Speaker 1: those works of art one smack bang in the middle
Speaker 1: of where the Renaissance took place in the Piacity signor
Speaker 1: there in Florence right opposite David As it's it's an
Speaker 1: everyday woman, a black woman on her phone or whatever.
Speaker 1: The one in Times Square is should every day black.
Speaker 5: One square, They should have Travis pickleby the story.
Speaker 7: The points here is.
Speaker 1: The nauseating wokeness. Oh, let's you know, it's this whole
Speaker 1: all portraits and things, which is not true. But this
Speaker 1: is what the Woks say is of white men, and
Speaker 1: you know, so let's have a black woman. So this
Speaker 1: is there. This is the full extent of their creativity
Speaker 1: rather than a white man. Let's have a black beautiful.
Speaker 1: Of course, there are stunning black beautiful women that have
Speaker 1: been in art featured three So it's all it's all Marxism,
Speaker 1: it's all degrading, you know, as you were saying classical.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't mind if it's if it's a
Speaker 4: real person, whatever they look like. But you can make
Speaker 4: a piece of art be beautiful.
Speaker 1: Of course, you can around.
Speaker 4: Regardless of who the subject matter is, and it enhances
Speaker 4: the environment. People see it, they stop and and it
Speaker 4: brings something to them. I think we've just lost that,
Speaker 4: and we see it with modern architecture in particular.
Speaker 1: It's one of my absolutely and it's been lost deliberately.
Speaker 1: And that's this school of marx We don't make beautiful things.
Speaker 1: After the break Canbrah Clown Show in a tick roll up,
Speaker 1: roll up, step right this way. Yes, it's the Canra
Speaker 1: clown Show, where the traveling Election Show has finally wrapped up,
Speaker 1: leading laughter and tears the length and breadth of the country.
Speaker 1: Here's one brave journalist who manage to ask a decent
Speaker 1: question of Albosa, the ringmaster. At the end of the tour, We're.
Speaker 21: Just frightening the living daylights out of everybody About Peter Dutton.
Speaker 21: He's matched both most of your health spending commitments, including
Speaker 21: on medicare. So why do you run around with this
Speaker 21: gay campaign?
Speaker 1: That was decent journalism, unlike this reprehensible and disgraceful nonsense
Speaker 1: from the ABC's chief scold Sarah for Ferguson. I told
Speaker 1: the Coalition they should have got rid of the ABC.
Speaker 22: Let's just talk about this sensibly. Just we saw you
Speaker 22: wearing a make Australia Great Again hat at a time
Speaker 22: when Donald Trump poison to the world. We saw you
Speaker 22: give a speech in which you used a Donald Trump
Speaker 22: value statement to make Australia gay get great again. So
Speaker 22: can I come back to the question are you partly responsible?
Speaker 22: Can I the Liberal Party? Let me come to Peter
Speaker 22: Dutton's loss of his seat at me.
Speaker 19: Let me come back to the question. That's a whole
Speaker 19: lot of mudge just slung right.
Speaker 1: There, indeed, and the nonsense didn't get any better on
Speaker 1: Q and A.
Speaker 16: Donald Trump is toxic in Australian politics and and he
Speaker 16: should be.
Speaker 1: Yes. That was former Liberal Senator George Brands auditioning for
Speaker 1: a role as chief clown in the new Big Top.
Speaker 1: Either that or he wants a job at the ABC. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the Teal Clown suffered a severe bout of premature celebrations
Speaker 1: this week as they danced away the night enjoying the
Speaker 1: victory of Teal Zoey Daniels. And here they were still
Speaker 1: celebrating the next day, but then sadly tears of a
Speaker 1: clown reality crept in and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: it's this bloke has wiped the smile off all their
Speaker 1: faces because he had in fact one. Yes, welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Burley Griffin Big Top. Tim Wilson, Liberal Leader,
Speaker 1: hopeful and former popular Parliamentary song and dance man seeing
Speaker 1: here embracing his leader, mister Trumbull the clown after together
Speaker 1: they won the same sex marriage clever sites.
Speaker 7: Ah.
Speaker 1: Yes, happy days and memories were all involved. I'm sure,
Speaker 1: even in all its new and progressive glory, is Parliament
Speaker 1: really all it's cracked up to be? Not? According to
Speaker 1: this Greens lady before this interview, Max Chandler Maida yesterday
Speaker 1: called Parliament a sick place and bloody awful.
Speaker 8: What did you make of those comments from one of
Speaker 8: your now former colleagues.
Speaker 7: Tom.
Speaker 19: Of course the Parliament can be a bloody awful place.
Speaker 1: But what's it like being in the Greens. Surely it's
Speaker 1: all progressive, sweetness and light, not according to Marine.
Speaker 3: And in my.
Speaker 21: Thirty years in Australia, I have worked in many organizations
Speaker 21: before I stepped into politics, and I have experienced racism.
Speaker 3: In each and every single one of them.
Speaker 21: And yes I have experienced racism in the Greens, oh dear.
Speaker 1: Understandably, some of the Greens fans were clearly upset when
Speaker 1: everybody's scariest Green plan, adam Ant, sorry Adam Bant, I
Speaker 1: always make that mistake, was turfed from the Burley Griffin
Speaker 1: big top this week, discarded like the soggy Greens leftover
Speaker 1: on a lazy Susan at the local Chinese Here is
Speaker 1: when he thought he was going to win, but then
Speaker 1: reality and this tragic announcement.
Speaker 17: A short time ago, I called the Labor candidate for Melbourne,
Speaker 17: Sarah Whiitty, to concede, to congratulate her and to wish
Speaker 17: her all the best as the next member for Melbourne.
Speaker 1: It appears some of adam Ant's sorry Adam Bant's fans
Speaker 1: were not impressed. This is someone called Abby Chatfield.
Speaker 6: Something the great people can put me out of power
Speaker 6: water pathetic campaign.
Speaker 3: But chuck yourself to Abbey Chatfield and this is what
Speaker 3: you get.
Speaker 5: Lazy okay.
Speaker 1: And here's Abby again, struggling to make sense of it, all.
Speaker 23: The anxiety about Adam Bant losing his seat. I didn't
Speaker 23: even think it was possible for Adam Band lose his seat.
Speaker 23: I think it's possible. What I have seen, it's been
Speaker 23: neck and neck. I don't get how that is.
Speaker 7: Is it?
Speaker 1: Nick in Nick or Nick and Nick? Yes, that would
Speaker 1: appear to be the end of Adam Ant, sorry Adam Bant,
Speaker 1: at least for the time being. But what would Adam Bant,
Speaker 1: sorry Adam Ant have to say? I mean hyperbo hyperpreme exaggeration,
Speaker 1: hyperbole has pronounced by Julia Gillard. Well, James, you've got
Speaker 1: a good story for great.
Speaker 6: Story for Bernie Sanders, you know, the great socialist. Well,
Speaker 6: you know, it's always the thing with these socialists, it's
Speaker 6: like one rule for them, one rule for everybody else.
Speaker 6: Apparently he's a big, big, big fan of the private
Speaker 6: jet and he got called out all this by Brett
Speaker 6: Bayer on Fox News.
Speaker 24: Have a look at this free Beacon says Bernie Sanders
Speaker 24: spent two hundred twenty one thousand on private jets fighting
Speaker 24: the oligarchy, tour paid for by friends of Bernie Sanders.
Speaker 24: That you've spent millions of dollars in campaign funds on
Speaker 24: private jet travel over the years. How do you push
Speaker 24: back on both of those things?
Speaker 25: The last time you saw Donald Trump during the campaign
Speaker 25: mode at National Airport?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it doesn't.
Speaker 24: But he's also not fighting the oligarchy.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 25: And you run a campaign and you do three or
Speaker 25: four or five rallies in a week. The only way
Speaker 25: you can get around to talk to thirty thousand people.
Speaker 25: Think I'm going to be sitting on a wedding line
Speaker 25: at United waiting. You know what, thirty thousand people are waiting.
Speaker 25: That's the only way you can get around. No apologies
Speaker 25: for that.
Speaker 6: Did you turn around on the line waiting to check
Speaker 6: in for his flight at United? It's always away with this.
Speaker 3: We're socialists with three homes.
Speaker 4: One mode, you know what he's candidate? What are you
Speaker 4: talking about? What campaign? And two you're a socialist. Donald
Speaker 4: Trump is not a socialist. Donald Trump boasts about his wealthare.
Speaker 1: Most people have to work as well and like to
Speaker 1: get to their.
Speaker 3: Job with those plus exactly.
Speaker 1: Now, Rita, Rita, We were very critical of an ad
Speaker 1: from done for Jaguar cars last year and oh, looks
Speaker 1: like we might have been correct.
Speaker 4: Well we were, because they're now bringing out their own
Speaker 4: sort of version of the cyber truck.
Speaker 3: To was a great cyber truck. And they are going
Speaker 3: to walk away very quickly from.
Speaker 4: That ridiculous, woke ad which completely had nothing to do
Speaker 4: with the actual product. It was really such a bizarre
Speaker 4: concoction of it.
Speaker 1: It was just weird transgender thing with no car, no Jaguars,
Speaker 1: nothing sexy. And they're getting a new ad agency, as
Speaker 1: they should. James and I was also intrigued by this one.
Speaker 1: In Canada.
Speaker 7: Just listen to this.
Speaker 1: So the police was making an announcement about an important
Speaker 1: police matter.
Speaker 4: And can I just say what this matter is? This
Speaker 4: is this is why this is so shocking. This was
Speaker 4: a tragic story. Two young kids missing for a better
Speaker 4: part of the week. Police were scaling back their search,
Speaker 4: didn't expect to find them alive, and in the most
Speaker 4: serious of circumstances, they start a press conference with this.
Speaker 19: Good afternoon.
Speaker 14: I am Corporal Coroly McCown, Provincial Republican from me Officer
Speaker 14: for the Nova Scotia ur CMP. Thank you all for
Speaker 14: being here today, Just la capitel, Carle McCann, Jean Diefromacivelecas
Speaker 14: Melci de vos. First, I acknowledge that we are in Micmagi,
Speaker 14: the traditional and unseated and satral territory of the Migmah people.
Speaker 14: I also recognize that African Nova Scotians are a distinct
Speaker 14: people whose histories, legacies and contributions have enriched that part
Speaker 14: of mcmagie known as Nova Scotia for over four hundred years.
Speaker 26: What unbelievable any but that's that's what happens when when
Speaker 26: you just have this as routinely uttered, this incoherent nonsense,
Speaker 26: whether it's a sporting event, whether it's Anzac day, whether
Speaker 26: it's a work meeting, whether it's a school assembly.
Speaker 4: Well, don't be surprised if you're hearing at the start
Speaker 4: of the time while.
Speaker 1: The parents are waiting for the news about the kids,
Speaker 1: you've got all this nonsense. Welcome to country and there
Speaker 1: you go as well. That's a Canadian welcome to country.
Speaker 1: We borrowed the terminology first Nations. We borrowed the whole
Speaker 1: concept of all this endless the Green irony.
Speaker 6: The Green irony very quickly is that it is based
Speaker 6: on a very sort of hard right idea of blood
Speaker 6: and soil nationalism. That's where all of this comes from.
Speaker 6: It is not left wing. It's actually something that the
Speaker 6: Nazis drew on too well.
Speaker 1: It's just insanse, this whole welcome to country thing, and
Speaker 1: it's going to be ramped up under labor. There you go.
Speaker 1: We'll have lots more to say about that next week,
Speaker 1: but that's all for this week's show. Make sure during
Speaker 1: the week you watch reda Panahee every evening at eleven
Speaker 1: and on Friday. What a night Friday is seven o'clock
Speaker 1: the world According to Rowan d in eight o'clock the
Speaker 1: US Report, James nine o'clock read a panne left his leader.
Speaker 1: That's it, Ross Greenwood, now bye,