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Speaker 1: Seeing Whipper with Kate Richie podcast. Hi, we know it

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Speaker 1: scares a lot of and where let me hear.

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Speaker 2: You say, AI, he does scare a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: and where you can take it? This is an unbelievable story.

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Speaker 2: Fifty two year old man from North Carolina. So this

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Speaker 2: is back in twenty eighteen. His name is Michael Smith Smith.

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Speaker 2: He partnered up with an AI music company and a

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Speaker 2: music producer to mass produce an enormous catalog of tunes

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Speaker 2: through AI. So wasn't doing himself, the computer was doing

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Speaker 2: it for him. He created several fake accounts to spread

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Speaker 2: the music around so it wouldn't seem like one person

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Speaker 2: suddenly could create fully produced tracks at rates faster than

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Speaker 2: any known person in the history of the human race.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: He then created a network of bots. I still don't

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Speaker 2: understand bots. Yeah, right, But he created a network of

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Speaker 2: bots to listen to all the songs from the made

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Speaker 2: up bands at a rate around about.

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Speaker 1: Six hundred and sixty thousand streams per day. In the

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Speaker 1: last five years six years, he's.

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Speaker 2: Taken home ten million dollars in streaming royalties from Spotify.

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Speaker 3: I heard about this guy.

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Speaker 1: From Amazon Prime Music.

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Speaker 3: He played the system I mean, he broke.

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Speaker 1: The law so streaming more because he's spots.

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Speaker 3: He's basically engineered fake accounts.

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Speaker 1: Is that illegal, Well.

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Speaker 3: It is, yeah, because at Spotify and the teas and seas,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it would say that you need to be

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Speaker 3: a legitimate person and therefore when you enter the details,

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Speaker 3: they need to be correct and honest.

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Speaker 2: But streaming services usually they have fraud detection systems in place,

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Speaker 2: but he found a method of circumventing that detection.

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Speaker 1: For a while.

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Speaker 2: So he created randomized song and artist names that were

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Speaker 2: convincing enough to provide an air of legitimacy. So bands

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Speaker 2: like Calm Identity and Zaigo Washdands are some of the

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Speaker 2: thousands of bands that he put up on Spotify.

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Speaker 1: And they would have all these bots that.

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Speaker 2: Would stream six hundred and sixty thousand streams of these

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Speaker 2: bands a day. It's clever, Spotify are going, wow, this

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Speaker 2: band's taken off.

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Speaker 1: Let's send them out some royalties.

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Speaker 3: Is the type of guy that will end up working

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Speaker 3: for the government, hacking into things or changing things.

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Speaker 2: But yeah again, but yeah, he got busted day.

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Speaker 1: This is the thing. I mean, how how good would

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Speaker 1: have it been for a few years there when you

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Speaker 1: were just.

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Speaker 3: Going to feed.

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Speaker 2: You know what, in a way I agree with Kate.

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Speaker 2: You feel like you're not breaking the law too much.

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Speaker 4: No, I didn't say that. I didn't say so you're

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Speaker 4: a I asked whether it was illegal. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: just blows my mind, this kind of thing, because I

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Speaker 4: can I can't turn the TV on, So how on earth?

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Speaker 1: So he works out how.

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Speaker 3: To be like saying, we're going to run a pole

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Speaker 3: to see how many people really enjoy theme Queen, and

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Speaker 3: then you go behind the scenes and generate all sorts

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Speaker 3: of algorithms to make it look like it feels like

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Speaker 3: everybody has voted for the Now.

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Speaker 4: I get it, guys, thanks so much for filling me.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's not really your area. You just admitted you

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Speaker 3: don't know how to turn the team.

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Speaker 4: Not my area, but it's also not an area I

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Speaker 4: am interested in.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't have to get you if you did the

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Speaker 2: call out to Campbelltown, you wouldn't need your own bots.

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Speaker 1: You could get it.

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Speaker 2: You could get an army of Kate Richie fans that

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Speaker 2: could support it.

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Speaker 4: What music music I could do the Catho I could

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Speaker 4: perform at the Catholic Club.

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Speaker 1: Could you that's great. Don't you dare write that down?

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Speaker 1: How many songs you wanted to? More than happy toorks

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Speaker 1: all over again? I am going tomorrow, Jackson.

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Speaker 2: I'm on chat GPT now from a small suburb called Campbelltown.

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Speaker 4: It's a city made, it's a city.

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Speaker 3: It's the center of Sydney.

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Speaker 4: Well it's not the center Southwest. I'm not singing.

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Speaker 1: When are we doing that?

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Speaker 3: Tom Because the soccer.

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Speaker 1: Was awesome around every.

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Speaker 3: Straight onto the cathoe. Tell them we need to book

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Speaker 3: and a richie.

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Speaker 1: It could be the name of the band, the Campbelltown Kate?

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Speaker 2: What what what?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: What? What? What? What? Here's my bots what?

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Speaker 2: Here's my but Okay, let's not here's my but what what?

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Speaker 1: Here's my butt?

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Speaker 4: But I meant stage a magic trick fits in?

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