WEBVTT - Crooked River Road | 3 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:09.200 Carrying body is very very heavy. When you find somewhere 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:11.479 you want to dump a body, you don't dump it 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.319 ago he I've never been there before. They don't. They 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.560 go to places they know best, but they believe no 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:19.640 one knows where they are. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.799 I'm Ashley Hanson. This is episode three of Deershell, a 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.840 podcast by True Crime Australia. Mick Ashwood spent the best 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:32.720 part of three decades hunting criminals. He's taking us into 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.840 the mindset of a killer and what he's learned about 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.400 how they cover their tracks. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:42.120 They go through a change, they become depressed and scared 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.600 of being identified. So where they place the body, there's 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.440 so much into that. So if you don't know what 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.760 to do when you feel some first time, you don't 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:51.559 know where to dump the body, you don't know how 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.600 to protect yourself. What you want to do is place 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.560 yourself as far asway from the victim as you can. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.000 Put them in a spot that's a long way from 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:03.080 where anyone saw you. And these are subconscious drives in 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:09.479 people's heads. They don't care about the VIATO. You've got 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:12.280 a factor that in is this person a criminal psychopath? 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.839 Because they have no empathy, They feel sorry for themselves. 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.920 If they get caught let's see it. They then modify 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:22.640 their behavior so they don't get caught next time, or 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.319 if it was close call, they move the bodies someone 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.319 like over mylac. Bodies tend to get closer to where 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.160 the person lives as they get more confident with time. 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.240 On this case stood, I don't know if it was 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.440 done on their own, but because of the failing at 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.240 the beginning of the investigation, that may never be known. 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:52.480 This is someone's life who got ripped away from them, 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.640 who got completely ripped off. And she was so special, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.600 and she would have done so many beautiful things and 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:02.280 she did, and she was so special to so many people. Yeah, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.920 I just want everyone to know that she was one 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.520 of the good ones. She didn't deserve it. She was 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:09.360 in the prime of her life, she was having fun, 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.120 She really cared about the people around her. 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.239 We just all got ripped off, and her especially. 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:19.760 I don't know whether she knew what was happening to 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.520 her or what was going to happen. I don't know 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.560 how long she suffered for. I don't know how scared 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:28.120 she was. I'm never going to know that. That's haunting. 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:38.120 This is the untold story of Rochelle Child's, a twenty 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:41.560 three year old who was brutally murdered. Her killer has 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.679 never been caught. To understand the motivation and mind of 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:49.480 Rochelle's killer, detectives need to collect and examine all the 0:02:49.520 --> 0:03:02.960 available evidence. Let's recap. There's a nine hour gap in 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:08.040 Rochelle's movements that's troubling detectives. Her last confirmed sighting was 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:11.680 leaving Camden Holden on Thursday, the seventh of June just 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:16.280 after five pm. Nine hours later, her burning body was 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:20.400 found one hundred kilometers away at seven Mile Beach in 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:24.280 the early hours of Friday morning. The location is linked 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:29.519 to another woman's unsolved murder, fueling suspicion a serial killer 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:34.120 is targeting women. Police say they found no evidence of 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:39.200 a struggle or forced entry at Rochelle's home in Bargo. Meanwhile, 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:43.640 her abandoned car turns up at the Bargo hotel, leaving 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:48.800 her family and investigators wondering who she was meeting and why. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.760 Let's return to seven Mile Beach. Every time I go 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:03.560 back there, I learned something new this trip. I'm heading 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:07.120 there with cold case expert retired New South Wales detective 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.480 Sergeant Damien Lund. He's been pouring over the brief of 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.520 evidence for months and I'm looking forward to his insights. 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:20.320 What does it feel like being here for the first time. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.480 You'll notice that I've got the hands in my pocket. 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.520 It's just out of my always good for me to 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.440 as when I was a police officer, to go to 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.039 the seat in the crime and you'd never know she 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.800 was here. There's no rip, there's no flowers planted here, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.440 there's no area hasn't been touched. You wouldn't know if 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.039 you walk, if you're walking long here, that this is 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.240 where a body was found, knowing that she was here. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:46.760 It's really it's really sad. It's really sad to find 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.039 that a young woman in a prime of a life, 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:55.120 her life ends here, and just a callous way that 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.400 she was dubbed here and just discarded like a piece 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:01.960 of rubbish and set on fire. The offender or offenders, 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.600 he's got no regard for any human life. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:10.040 Sexual predators commonly use fire to destroy evidence. Rochelle's killer 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:14.719 doused her body in unleaded petrol, seemingly determined to leave 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:15.679 no trace. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:21.840 Well initially, Accelerate would have really gone bush car sort 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.240 of thing, you know, because it burns off very quickly. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.800 The petrol. It's got a high flash point, so boom, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.760 it would have gone straight up and then would have diminished. 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:33.360 To do that without getting injured, you'd have to use 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.359 a match, you know, you'd have to stand back and 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:37.240 flick not. You couldn't do it with the cigarette lighter. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:38.120 Is it good book? 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.560 And often enough you get the singer spumer, you know, 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.120 particularly on their hands on the face I linked and 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.960 everything from the arsness that I've locked up, have caught 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.760 torch things. They've got some sort of checking her injury, 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.560 you know, they've got you can tell them that they've 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.160 got their hands have been out, that their follicles on 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.240 their hands have been singed in the hair and the eyebrows. 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:02.080 Sometimes if it's enough, why here, this is a whole? 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.320 Why here? What is it? Just an opportunist excite from 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.080 somewhere off the side of the road. If you could 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.760 have gone in another hundred leaders in your body would 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.080 have seen that flavor from the road. So did something happen? 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:14.320 Really? 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.159 He really hardly quick and really fast. 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.560 Detectives have always believed Rochelle's killer had intended to hide 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.679 her body She was found naked from the waist down 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.880 in the fetal position, next to an in ground concrete tank, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:36.320 the tank I went looking for with Iva Davies, the 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:40.440 first lead investigator. Remember when Ivor arrived at the scene 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.240 in two thousand and one, the tank's heavy concrete lid 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:49.440 had been slightly pushed back, suggesting someone tried to open it. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:52.760 Here's iv from episode one. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.359 I think they went to great lengths to hide her body, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.159 but it didn't work out, so then it was just 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.720 had hotly done in haste. Just they've had enough. They 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:04.599 must have been driving around with the corpse in the 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.600 body for Harris, and I just think that when this 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.600 didn't pan out, they've had enough. You're not going to 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.320 just put a rear torch and get rid of the evidence, 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.760 just get out of dodge. So just picture a concrete tank. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.840 I don't know how deep it was, it might have 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.360 been maybe a meter meter and half, but above the 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.600 ground was maybe three to four hundred and it had 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.520 the concrete lid on it. Stick had a meter and 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.560 a half around maybe a meter. So when you slid 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:33.480 it off, which they did to at least a quarters away, 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:36.960 you can clearly see the gate valves, water junctions. Everything 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.720 was close to the service. It wasn't like a two 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.200 meter drop, so as obviously we're not going to get 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.840 the deceased in there. So I think in haste they 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.920 just dropped it into the shallow, put an excillain over it, 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:49.520 and tortured it. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.960 Now Damien's in the same spot and mapping out the 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:54.880 crime scene with me. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.600 I think it was about here probably, I think it 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:04.760 was about here. I wonder if that could have been 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.480 it that hold air. 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:09.920 It seems to have been further in. 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:14.080 It. 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:19.600 Yeah, we look it's been filled in. There should be 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.360 some sort of lid or something other on top of it, 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:31.320 maybe some concrete. Here it is, This is where the 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:31.800 tank was. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.880 Oh my gosh, that's it. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:34.080 Here. 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:41.160 It is here, now here it is that's been covered in. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.200 Looks of the original concrete. It's been taken away. And 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:53.960 this is like a heart plastic diameter's right circular. 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.960 It's exactly the same size that ever explained. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.719 He's so close to here. 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:00.240 It is here. 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:04.080 I can lift it up. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:05.520 There's a road. 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:08.640 I can lift it up. 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:10.480 Well, you're standing on it. 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:11.600 I can lift it up. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:15.040 Be careful. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.560 That's the valves that we're talking about just got shells. 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:25.640 So do you think the reason maiming the body wasn't 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:26.640 placed in the tank. 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.720 Was not that it couldn't fit, couldn't lift it couldn't 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.199 lift it couldn't lift it. That's what probably is the 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.400 more important question. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.360 So now we're both thinking what stopped the killer from 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.319 hiding Rochelle's body in the tank. Was the lead too heavy? 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.480 Was it impossible to do alone? We're going to explore 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.640 the evidence in more detail later on, but if you'd 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:54.760 like to see the tank now, visit Dear Rochelle dot 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.439 com dot au for exclusive access to pictures, interactive evidence 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:03.040 from the CA, videos and more. What we do know 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.720 it's Rochelle was found beside the tank, was burning, her 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:10.800 body planned b Was it the work of someone acting alone? 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.959 Before you hear eyewitness accounts from that rainy night on 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:18.360 the Crooked River Road which is also known as GIRoA Road. 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.440 Let's listen to part of a police press conference held 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.520 by detectives Scott Cook in a cold case appeal. 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:29.280 We believe that that commodore may have traveled between Bargo 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.559 and GIRoA where she was found on the evening that 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.199 she went missing. We believed that the vehicle was driven 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.280 by someone other than Rochelle. But what we really need 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.800 to explore further at this time is where that car went. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:47.040 It was seen at the Bargo Hotel in the evening 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.360 of the seventh, again on the eighth, and again on 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:53.240 the night before it was recovered by police, and so 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:55.599 we want to try and fill in where that vehicle was. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.760 We're particularly interested in whether the vehicle was at petrol stations. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.800 Rochelle was burned and there was accelerant we believed to 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.600 be petrol all over the place. 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.920 You're going to hear about multiple sightings on different sides 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.680 of the road. The tank is on the eastern side 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.440 of Crooked River Road near the beach, and directly opposite 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.000 is the entrance to a quarry owned by Cleary Brothers. 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.840 The witnesses have given approximate times to police, allowing us 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.199 to construct a timeline, but it's difficult to know the 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.160 exact order in which the car switched from one side 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:35.360 of the road to the other. It was rainy and dark. 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.839 None of these witnesses could have predicted the enormity of 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.840 what they were actually seeing driving through Seven Mile Beach 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:47.679 that evening the first suspicious sighting could have been as 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:52.000 early as twenty past ten on the Thursday night, four 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:56.840 hours before Rochelle's burning body was discovered. These are actors 0:11:56.960 --> 0:11:59.720 voicing police summaries of their statements. 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.400 An Australian Navy Air crewman by the name of David 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.600 Bryan Oxley was heading home from HMAS Albatross at Naura. 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:11.000 Driving north through seven Mile Beach. He saw a car 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.560 parked on a left verge of Jiroa Road facing north. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.880 He noticed the tower lights were on. Mister Oxley told 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.960 police he'd owned commodorees and was familiar with the tail 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.040 light configuration. He identified the vehicle as a dark blue 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.640 early model Commodore VB or VH. He didn't see anyone 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.120 in or around the car. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:37.720 That description sounds pretty similar to Rochelle's blue VB Commodore. 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:42.720 Between ten thirty and eleven pm, another witness drove past. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:47.920 Driving north along Dureua Road on June seventh, two thousand 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.360 and one. Robert James Wilson had just passed Seven Mile 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:54.320 Beach Holiday Park when he saw a blue BC Holden 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.360 Commodore in a car park area on the eastern side 0:12:57.400 --> 0:13:01.480 of the road opposite the caravan park. He slid down 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.720 because he thought the car might belong to a friend. 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.320 He couldn't see the front of the car, but noticed 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.520 the boot was open. He told police he saw two people, 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.800 one with dark hair, lying on the ground and another 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.160 with sandy colored hair standing next to them. 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:21.160 Did Robert Wilson just see the killer standing beside Rochelle's body? 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:25.040 She just meet us from the concrete tank. We know 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:28.640 her body never made it inside the tank. This next 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.160 sighting places the car on the other side of the road. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.400 Between ten thirty and eleven forty PM, Marie and Dallas 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.760 Akroyd were traveling home to Bomaderry when their attention was 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.800 drawn to a dark, older model parked car near the 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.920 gate to the Cleary brother's quarry. It stood out because 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.200 it was late and isolated, and they remember seeing somebody 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.440 swump down in the driver's seat like they were trying 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:56.120 to hide. Missus Akroyd told police she believes the person 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.640 was male and of a small build, but she couldn't 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:02.599 be sure. To Ackroyd remembers saying to his wife that 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:08.760 seems strange. They didn't see any fire or smoke, so. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.520 By the time the acroids traveled through. The car was 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:13.800 on the opposite side of the road to the tank. 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.160 That makes me wonder what was the killer looking for 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.560 and why were they moving back and forth? All that 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:25.560 movement is risky, suggesting they were becoming increasingly desperate and 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.920 they needed to cover their tracks. Time was running out. 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:35.440 Around twelve thirty am, Jack Edmund had just finished work 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.320 at a dairy farm who was driving north on Gireaux 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.440 Road when he spotted a small car park near Cleary Brothers. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.040 Tigh beams are on. He flashed his lights to get 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.080 the driver to dim them, but nothing changed. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.720 He says his vision was impaired. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.920 By the bright headlights. Didn't see anyone around or any 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:53.920 smoke or fire. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.360 Fifteen minutes later, a business owner by the name of 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:02.520 Gerardhas was heading home from work. He owned the Cowtex 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.560 Star mart in South Nara. Mister Has told police he 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:09.960 saw a parked car facing south on Giurea Road with 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:10.880 its high beams on. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:15.600 He didn't see anyone then around two am, for the 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:18.960 first time, flames was seen in the area. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.440 Shelley Heatherington was driving home late from work when she 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:29.040 spotted a fire in the bush. 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:30.400 Traveling through GIRoA. 0:15:31.120 --> 0:15:33.760 She told police the flames were almost a meter high 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.880 and purple and blue in color. Shelley grew up on 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.600 a farm and it looked like an accelerant fueled fire 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.360 to her. Then she saw a car with no headlights 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.200 doing a U turn in the middle of the road 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.280 right in front of her. She described the car as 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.960 an older model, square shaped vehicle, similar to an old Holden. 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:59.240 Did Shelley Heatherington almost collide with the killer Fleeing this scene. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.160 Was the killer heading back to the Bargo Hotel to 0:16:03.360 --> 0:16:07.200 dump Rochelle's car. I'm stunned by how many close calls 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:11.000 they had. There were no other known sightings of that 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:15.520 car that evening. Just fifteen minutes after Shelley saw those 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:20.160 blue and purple flames, security guard Craig Duck spotted the fire, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:24.440 pulled his car off the road and discovered Rochelle's body 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:33.680 next to the concrete tank. Rochelle's shoes, her handbag, and 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.880 her mobile phone, as well as a bedsheet she kept 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.760 in her boot, were later found dumped at different locations, 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.480 offering an insight into the killer's likely escape route. When 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.240 police were looking for evidence, they canvassed to various service 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:53.800 stations for CCTV from Bargo to the South coast. But 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.200 as you'll hear from Detective Scott Cook, some of those 0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:58.760 tapes were lost. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.320 We're not sure whether they're missing. We may be able 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.800 to still locate them. A lot of these matters from 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.720 all around the state have been transferred and moved to 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.479 different parts of the organization and different police stations as 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:15.520 they close and rebuild, and often exhibits such as some 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.800 of the tapes get mixed up. So we're confident we're 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.600 still searching through the archives. There was a period in 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.440 time when a lot of the exhibits from unsolved matters 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:26.720 were put in boxes and sent to archives. 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.960 But I've discovered police do have two segments of CCTV 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:37.239 in their possession. The detectives flagged suspicious. Now remember an 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.920 accelerant later confirmed to be unleaded. Petrol was used on 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.760 Rochelle's body, and her blue Commodore was believed to have 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.800 been driven to GIRoA, just over an hour away from Bargo, 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:53.200 so police and Rochelle's family believe her car wouldn't have 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.240 made it to the South Coast without a pit stop. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.359 Rochelle's parents that bicar was kind and often had to 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.680 be filled up with petrol every twenty minutes. You mentioned 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:09.600 petrol stations already. Is there any CCTV or that sort 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:11.000 of technology that you will now. 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:11.399 Look back on. 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.760 Yes, any CCTV footage that we have and that we 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.960 can locate will definitely be re examined. There are new 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.160 technologies around enhancement processes that may be available. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.159 But police can't explain why the CCTV they do have 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:30.440 that's been flagged has never been released to the public 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:33.919 or even shown to Rochelle's family to see if anyone 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.800 in that video recording is identifiable, it will go a 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:41.160 long way to rule it in or out of the investigation. 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.879 For the first time, you'll hear why these segments of 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:49.320 CCTV were flagged. The first recording was captured at the 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.439 South Narrow Celtics service station on the night Rachelle disappeared. 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:57.680 These are the words written in the police log ten 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:04.200 PM unknown for VBVH commodore pass entrance to shop parked 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:08.840 near entrance possible unknown female out of car, blonde hair, 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:14.600 dark top, light, slacks. Then three minutes later, same female 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.520 in shop motor vehicle parked at the same position. Female 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.359 has handbag over right shoulder. The car is observed at 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.840 the petrol station for another seven minutes, then at ten 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:30.320 point fifty pm, the log says Commodore blue in front 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.720 of shop reversing back. Appears to be a male in 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:38.120 front passenger site. The petrol station that captured this security 0:19:38.240 --> 0:19:41.080 video is only a twenty five minute drive and where 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:45.800 Rochelle's body was set alight three hours later. The second 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:49.639 piece of CCTV was from a different petrol station nearby, 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.360 the East Narrom Mobile Service station, on the same night. 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:58.439 Just a little later, the police log reads eleven forty 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:03.240 five unknown Comodore or dark color, two males. Driver fills 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:07.639 up passenger into shop. Then driver vehicle lights stayed on, 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:11.560 blocking regio plate whilst filling up. Two minutes later, the 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:15.640 mystery men in a similar card to Rochelle's drive off 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:19.119 into the night. You have to wonder was it an 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.480 accident the car's headlights were left on, or was it 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:27.000 a deliberate attempt to disguise the Commodore's number plate. Now 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:30.080 this was recorded about two hours before Rochelle was found 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:35.399 just nineteen kilometers away. Damien and I are mulling over 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:39.000 the witness statements. While we're at seven Mile Beach, Damien 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.520 wants to have a look at the location where Jody 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.960 Fsis was discovered four years before Rochelle. 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:48.920 I'm just going to follow the track down here. 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:51.919 Herehere isn't it. 0:20:53.800 --> 0:20:57.320 Rochelle was placed was within three hundred and sixty meters 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:01.360 awhere Jody Thesis's body was located. And that's not uncommon 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:05.840 for these things to occur in an investigation to throw 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:08.280 off the investigators and put them on a different tangent 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:12.680 for their investigation. And it's done on purpose so that 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:15.639 the heat would come off you if you're involved in 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:19.639 this homicide, that you deflect any in questionable conduct that 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.719 you've been involved in or any suggestion that you may 0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.760 have been involved. And that's what they do. And it's 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.080 not out of the ordinary that these things do happen, 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:28.000 because they'd have happened. 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:32.160 It would take twenty years for Jody's murder to be solved. 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:37.200 In twenty seventeen, her husband, Stephen Frank Thesis, was found 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.160 guilty of the eighteen year old's murder. 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:45.400 It has taken far too long to make Stephen Thesis 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:49.000 pay for his crime and his victim's family can hardly 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:52.960 believe the battle is finally over. The cruel, heartless and 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:56.280 savage killer jaled for at least sixteen and a half 0:21:56.440 --> 0:22:00.480 years for strangling Jody Fsis, his eighteen year old wife 0:22:00.560 --> 0:22:03.520 of just three months in their illa war a lounge room, 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.680 burying her body in a shallow grave at seven Mile 0:22:06.800 --> 0:22:09.600 Beach and claiming she had simply disappeared. 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:16.399 Back in two thousand and one, Jody's killer hadn't been caught, so, 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:21.000 as it expect, the prime suspect, her husband, Steven Fisis, 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:25.760 was investigated over Rochelle's murder. He would give evidence at 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:29.200 Rochelle's inquest where he demonstrated he could prove he was 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.680 working at a woole and Gone club as a security 0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.840 guard on the night Rochelle was killed. Was the fact 0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:38.680 Rochelle's body was placed so close to the spot where 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:43.560 Jody was buried a coincidence or was this done intentionally? 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:45.399 Damien has a theory. 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:50.240 It's a smart thinking because you've got an unsold thomaside already, 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:52.720 so you put another body within that three to five 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.840 hundred meters and people are going to be saying whether 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:57.760 she was a killer on the list were. In fact 0:22:57.800 --> 0:22:59.240 it two separated homicides altogether. 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:03.240 Police at the time did quash this serial killer theory, 0:23:03.760 --> 0:23:07.160 but don't underestimate how many police resources it would take 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:10.840 to get to that point. So with Stephen fsis ruled 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:14.560 out by police and Sash no longer a person of interest, 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.720 the list of pois is narrowing. 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:30.000 Oh, don't go. 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.199 Shit, it's got to be soon. Shan't get him up 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:34.760 the top of here. 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:36.240 Yeah, come. 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:39.600 Yes. 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.159 Rochelle treasured her holder and she had big plans for 0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:50.680 doing it up. She was saving up to paint it 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:54.320 cherry red, but after her murder it was cased for 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:58.440 forensic testing. There's a story behind how Christy got it back. 0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:03.760 So had it for ten years out at Marulin and 0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:06.000 they said that we could have it back. Did we 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:08.600 want it back? Mum and Dad didn't want it, but 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:14.080 I wanted it so Dad, because I was broke. Dad 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.399 put new ties on it and got it transported up 0:24:17.520 --> 0:24:20.560 to my father in law's house at the time because 0:24:20.640 --> 0:24:23.480 he had property, So we had it at his house 0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:26.200