WEBVTT - The Police Incident Between Rhi And Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome back to the Maths Tunny Podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to an episode that will not be funny in

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<v Speaker 1>the slightest. Many of you have seen some articles and

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<v Speaker 1>new stories floating about Re and Jeff over the last

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<v Speaker 1>I think like twelve twenty four hours, you've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>asked me what the go is.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this episode, I am going to just.

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<v Speaker 1>Go through this situation, and please know prior to listening

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<v Speaker 1>to any of this that Jeff has denied any wrongdoing

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<v Speaker 1>and has denied on record to Chatter who broke the

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<v Speaker 1>story everything you're about to hear, and just to stick

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<v Speaker 1>to the facts, I'm essentially just going to read Chatters

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<v Speaker 1>new story from top to bottom, starting with their headline

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<v Speaker 1>because they broke this story. Cops come firm AsSalt probe

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<v Speaker 1>into Maths Room Jeff after an incident left Re with

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<v Speaker 1>minor injuries prior to their split. He denies any wrongdoing.

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<v Speaker 1>The article then says Victoria Plice have launched an investigation

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<v Speaker 1>into an alleged incident between married at first sit golden

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<v Speaker 1>couple at Jeff and Ree prior to their sudden split.

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<v Speaker 1>Chatter has exclusively learned police were called to the pair's

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<v Speaker 1>Melbourne apartment in the leafy suburb of I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we should say the suburb on June first, about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four hours before they confirmed they'd abruptly ended their romance

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<v Speaker 1>after two years together. Saucy said the incident left Ree

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<v Speaker 1>with what cops have described to Chatter as minor injuries. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>forty one, was interviewed by police but released without charge

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<v Speaker 1>pending summons. According to a Victoria Police statement provided to

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<v Speaker 1>this website, a police spokesperson said police are investigating and

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<v Speaker 1>a soul in suburb. On the first of June. Officers

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<v Speaker 1>were called to the address about six thirty am. A

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<v Speaker 1>woman sustained that minor injuries and a forty one year

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<v Speaker 1>old mine was interviewed and released pending summons. The party

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<v Speaker 1>is unknown to each other. The article then continues and

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<v Speaker 1>says multiple sources have identified the individuals named in the

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<v Speaker 1>statement as Jeff and Ree. Jeff has appointed Melbourne lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>Senad Dysdevik to represent him in the probe. When asked

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<v Speaker 1>for comments about what happened in the early hours of

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<v Speaker 1>the morning in question, mister Dysdevik was tight lipped, but

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<v Speaker 1>there vehemently I can never say that word vehemently denied

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff had done anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Hato Chatter.

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<v Speaker 1>At no stage was my client arrested, charged or detained,

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<v Speaker 1>and no summons has been issued to him Chatter then

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<v Speaker 1>and there asco By saying, but the emergence of police

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<v Speaker 1>involvement in the reality television pairs split provides never before

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<v Speaker 1>known details on the question that has baffled fans what

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<v Speaker 1>happened between Jeff and Ree. I'm not gonna now speculate

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<v Speaker 1>on the incident because that is insensitive and this is

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<v Speaker 1>like something serious and it's also a police matter. It

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<v Speaker 1>is worth noting there again that Jeff's low denied Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>did anything wrong and says that no summons has been

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<v Speaker 1>issued to him. I assume still because that comment was yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>and since this incident, Jeff went to Europe for a

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<v Speaker 1>month and he's now back in Australia. One thing I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to talk about, though, is the media involvement

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<v Speaker 1>in this. And like with an article like this, what

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell you from working at Endless Publications is

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<v Speaker 1>it is very hard to get over the line unless

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<v Speaker 1>all the facts are correct and your publications legal team,

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<v Speaker 1>like every website, newspaper magazine would ever have like one

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<v Speaker 1>lay if not a team of lawyers where any issues

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<v Speaker 1>that could be potentially defamatory, you know, they have to

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<v Speaker 1>go over those articles like with a fine column and

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<v Speaker 1>make a choice, can we publish this, do we stand

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<v Speaker 1>by this? Is their merit to this, and obviously Chatter

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<v Speaker 1>have deemed yes they are going to publish and stand

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<v Speaker 1>by this. And from a legal point of view, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as he's lawyer said, hasn't been arrested, charge

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<v Speaker 1>detained and know someone's has been issued to him, still

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<v Speaker 1>they have to also lead with his denial because that's

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<v Speaker 1>still the fact of this story. With things like this,

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<v Speaker 1>should just have to stick to the facts and not

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<v Speaker 1>very away from that. But one interesting thing, and why

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about the media's take on this,

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<v Speaker 1>is because Daily Mail actually kind of broke the story

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<v Speaker 1>on the fifteenth of June, so literally what a month

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<v Speaker 1>ago today, But they didn't name Rhein Jeff, which some

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<v Speaker 1>of you I think may remember because I saw it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of doing the rounds and socials because this article

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<v Speaker 1>just created a guessing game which felt a bit insensitive.

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<v Speaker 2>But the headline was the scandal that could end.

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<v Speaker 1>Maths Australia alleged assault Rocks franchise after damning claims about

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<v Speaker 1>UK version. Here's what we can tell you as nine

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<v Speaker 1>braces for impact, and then the article goes A police

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<v Speaker 1>investigation into an alleged assault by a former Maths Australia

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<v Speaker 1>style against a person known to them could potentially pose

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<v Speaker 1>a series ending threat to the franchise. Married at first

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<v Speaker 1>Site is already under intense global scrutiny after the UK

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<v Speaker 1>version was engulfed in a major scandal involving serious allegations

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<v Speaker 1>about contestant safety and welfare. The Daily Mail cannot legally

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<v Speaker 1>report any of details of this incident, including the date,

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<v Speaker 1>location or people involved. However, we can disclose that it

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<v Speaker 1>happened after filming and Daily Mail then go, please confirm

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<v Speaker 1>this week they were investigating an alleged assault. The former

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<v Speaker 1>Maths participant was interviewed and released pending summons. Daily Mail

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<v Speaker 1>then go, These bare facts are all we can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you for now, and then they go into Across its

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen seasons, there have been more than two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen individual participants on Maths Australia, which is produced by

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<v Speaker 1>Animal Shining Australia. For the nine network, and to me,

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about a legal perspective, often this is

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<v Speaker 1>this thing called group defamation, where if because it's like

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<v Speaker 1>an implication, say say you've got a group of friends

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<v Speaker 1>and the five of you and someone for some reason

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<v Speaker 1>wrote some crazy article about you and that group and

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<v Speaker 1>they said one person in this group is doing xyz

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<v Speaker 1>and it's some crazy accusation of what violence are something illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>You as that small group of people could say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>even though you didn't name us, that is damning to

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<v Speaker 1>all of our reputations. So therefore this we can do

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<v Speaker 1>a group defamation action against you. And for me, the

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<v Speaker 1>way Daily Mail kind of ended that little thing about

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<v Speaker 1>an incident where they don't say the incident or give

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<v Speaker 1>any details to then go across its thirsteen seasons they

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<v Speaker 1>have in more than two hundred and seventy individual participants.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, that's them going, hey, we've got this thing

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<v Speaker 1>we're telling you about, but we're not actually telling you

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<v Speaker 1>anything about and it could be anyone within two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and seventy people. Therefore, there's no suggestion of who it

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<v Speaker 1>could be in the slightest if that makes sense. And

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<v Speaker 1>then that article then from Dally Mail just goes into

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<v Speaker 1>all the recent stuff about my UK and the allegations there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it becomes like a wider piece where they implied

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<v Speaker 1>this individual incident could be the reason Maths Australia ends

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<v Speaker 1>like So to me, what is interesting, I suppose is

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<v Speaker 1>why did Daily Mail's lawyers back then, when they would

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<v Speaker 1>have known it was RhE and Jeff think, Hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to name, we don't feel confident to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't feel there's enough here or you know, legally

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<v Speaker 1>we can stand by this. But then now chatter maybe

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<v Speaker 1>their legal team are less.

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<v Speaker 2>Concerned, or maybe there's something new.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but then, yeah, it's just interesting when

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about like the media involvement and getting things

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<v Speaker 1>over the line. And again just to say Jeff denies

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<v Speaker 1>any wrongdoing, his lawyer says that, and his lawyer again

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<v Speaker 1>just to say, has reminded us Jeff has never been arrested,

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<v Speaker 1>charged or detained and no someone's has been issued to him.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's the latest on this story. If there's

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<v Speaker 1>any updates, I will let you know. And again it's

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<v Speaker 1>just worth remembering that this I know it's attached to

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<v Speaker 1>reality TV, but this is like a.

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<v Speaker 2>Real thing and it's a serious thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And this morning I woke up and I was scrolling

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok and I saw several clips like not dramatizing it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like Rhan Jeah for solo charges, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just a bit like, let's slow down and

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<v Speaker 1>not treat this as we would treat stuff from the show.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I got for today. Yeah, I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lovely night, so yeah,