Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Maths Tunny Podcast, and
Speaker 1: welcome to an episode that will not be funny in
Speaker 1: the slightest. Many of you have seen some articles and
Speaker 1: new stories floating about Re and Jeff over the last
Speaker 1: I think like twelve twenty four hours, you've kind of
Speaker 1: asked me what the go is.
Speaker 2: So in this episode, I am going to just.
Speaker 1: Go through this situation, and please know prior to listening
Speaker 1: to any of this that Jeff has denied any wrongdoing
Speaker 1: and has denied on record to Chatter who broke the
Speaker 1: story everything you're about to hear, and just to stick
Speaker 1: to the facts, I'm essentially just going to read Chatters
Speaker 1: new story from top to bottom, starting with their headline
Speaker 1: because they broke this story. Cops come firm AsSalt probe
Speaker 1: into Maths Room Jeff after an incident left Re with
Speaker 1: minor injuries prior to their split. He denies any wrongdoing.
Speaker 1: The article then says Victoria Plice have launched an investigation
Speaker 1: into an alleged incident between married at first sit golden
Speaker 1: couple at Jeff and Ree prior to their sudden split.
Speaker 1: Chatter has exclusively learned police were called to the pair's
Speaker 1: Melbourne apartment in the leafy suburb of I don't think
Speaker 1: we should say the suburb on June first, about twenty
Speaker 1: four hours before they confirmed they'd abruptly ended their romance
Speaker 1: after two years together. Saucy said the incident left Ree
Speaker 1: with what cops have described to Chatter as minor injuries. Jeff,
Speaker 1: forty one, was interviewed by police but released without charge
Speaker 1: pending summons. According to a Victoria Police statement provided to
Speaker 1: this website, a police spokesperson said police are investigating and
Speaker 1: a soul in suburb. On the first of June. Officers
Speaker 1: were called to the address about six thirty am. A
Speaker 1: woman sustained that minor injuries and a forty one year
Speaker 1: old mine was interviewed and released pending summons. The party
Speaker 1: is unknown to each other. The article then continues and
Speaker 1: says multiple sources have identified the individuals named in the
Speaker 1: statement as Jeff and Ree. Jeff has appointed Melbourne lawyer
Speaker 1: Senad Dysdevik to represent him in the probe. When asked
Speaker 1: for comments about what happened in the early hours of
Speaker 1: the morning in question, mister Dysdevik was tight lipped, but
Speaker 1: there vehemently I can never say that word vehemently denied
Speaker 1: Jeff had done anything wrong.
Speaker 2: Hato Chatter.
Speaker 1: At no stage was my client arrested, charged or detained,
Speaker 1: and no summons has been issued to him Chatter then
Speaker 1: and there asco By saying, but the emergence of police
Speaker 1: involvement in the reality television pairs split provides never before
Speaker 1: known details on the question that has baffled fans what
Speaker 1: happened between Jeff and Ree. I'm not gonna now speculate
Speaker 1: on the incident because that is insensitive and this is
Speaker 1: like something serious and it's also a police matter. It
Speaker 1: is worth noting there again that Jeff's low denied Jeff
Speaker 1: did anything wrong and says that no summons has been
Speaker 1: issued to him. I assume still because that comment was yesterday,
Speaker 1: and since this incident, Jeff went to Europe for a
Speaker 1: month and he's now back in Australia. One thing I
Speaker 1: do want to talk about, though, is the media involvement
Speaker 1: in this. And like with an article like this, what
Speaker 1: I can tell you from working at Endless Publications is
Speaker 1: it is very hard to get over the line unless
Speaker 1: all the facts are correct and your publications legal team,
Speaker 1: like every website, newspaper magazine would ever have like one
Speaker 1: lay if not a team of lawyers where any issues
Speaker 1: that could be potentially defamatory, you know, they have to
Speaker 1: go over those articles like with a fine column and
Speaker 1: make a choice, can we publish this, do we stand
Speaker 1: by this? Is their merit to this, and obviously Chatter
Speaker 1: have deemed yes they are going to publish and stand
Speaker 1: by this. And from a legal point of view, because
Speaker 1: I mean, as he's lawyer said, hasn't been arrested, charge
Speaker 1: detained and know someone's has been issued to him, still
Speaker 1: they have to also lead with his denial because that's
Speaker 1: still the fact of this story. With things like this,
Speaker 1: should just have to stick to the facts and not
Speaker 1: very away from that. But one interesting thing, and why
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about the media's take on this,
Speaker 1: is because Daily Mail actually kind of broke the story
Speaker 1: on the fifteenth of June, so literally what a month
Speaker 1: ago today, But they didn't name Rhein Jeff, which some
Speaker 1: of you I think may remember because I saw it
Speaker 1: kind of doing the rounds and socials because this article
Speaker 1: just created a guessing game which felt a bit insensitive.
Speaker 2: But the headline was the scandal that could end.
Speaker 1: Maths Australia alleged assault Rocks franchise after damning claims about
Speaker 1: UK version. Here's what we can tell you as nine
Speaker 1: braces for impact, and then the article goes A police
Speaker 1: investigation into an alleged assault by a former Maths Australia
Speaker 1: style against a person known to them could potentially pose
Speaker 1: a series ending threat to the franchise. Married at first
Speaker 1: Site is already under intense global scrutiny after the UK
Speaker 1: version was engulfed in a major scandal involving serious allegations
Speaker 1: about contestant safety and welfare. The Daily Mail cannot legally
Speaker 1: report any of details of this incident, including the date,
Speaker 1: location or people involved. However, we can disclose that it
Speaker 1: happened after filming and Daily Mail then go, please confirm
Speaker 1: this week they were investigating an alleged assault. The former
Speaker 1: Maths participant was interviewed and released pending summons. Daily Mail
Speaker 1: then go, These bare facts are all we can tell
Speaker 1: you for now, and then they go into Across its
Speaker 1: thirteen seasons, there have been more than two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventeen individual participants on Maths Australia, which is produced by
Speaker 1: Animal Shining Australia. For the nine network, and to me,
Speaker 1: when we talk about a legal perspective, often this is
Speaker 1: this thing called group defamation, where if because it's like
Speaker 1: an implication, say say you've got a group of friends
Speaker 1: and the five of you and someone for some reason
Speaker 1: wrote some crazy article about you and that group and
Speaker 1: they said one person in this group is doing xyz
Speaker 1: and it's some crazy accusation of what violence are something illegal.
Speaker 1: You as that small group of people could say, hey,
Speaker 1: even though you didn't name us, that is damning to
Speaker 1: all of our reputations. So therefore this we can do
Speaker 1: a group defamation action against you. And for me, the
Speaker 1: way Daily Mail kind of ended that little thing about
Speaker 1: an incident where they don't say the incident or give
Speaker 1: any details to then go across its thirsteen seasons they
Speaker 1: have in more than two hundred and seventy individual participants.
Speaker 1: To me, that's them going, hey, we've got this thing
Speaker 1: we're telling you about, but we're not actually telling you
Speaker 1: anything about and it could be anyone within two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy people. Therefore, there's no suggestion of who it
Speaker 1: could be in the slightest if that makes sense. And
Speaker 1: then that article then from Dally Mail just goes into
Speaker 1: all the recent stuff about my UK and the allegations there,
Speaker 1: and it becomes like a wider piece where they implied
Speaker 1: this individual incident could be the reason Maths Australia ends
Speaker 1: like So to me, what is interesting, I suppose is
Speaker 1: why did Daily Mail's lawyers back then, when they would
Speaker 1: have known it was RhE and Jeff think, Hey, we
Speaker 1: don't want to name, we don't feel confident to do that,
Speaker 1: we don't feel there's enough here or you know, legally
Speaker 1: we can stand by this. But then now chatter maybe
Speaker 1: their legal team are less.
Speaker 2: Concerned, or maybe there's something new.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but then, yeah, it's just interesting when
Speaker 1: we talk about like the media involvement and getting things
Speaker 1: over the line. And again just to say Jeff denies
Speaker 1: any wrongdoing, his lawyer says that, and his lawyer again
Speaker 1: just to say, has reminded us Jeff has never been arrested,
Speaker 1: charged or detained and no someone's has been issued to him.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the latest on this story. If there's
Speaker 1: any updates, I will let you know. And again it's
Speaker 1: just worth remembering that this I know it's attached to
Speaker 1: reality TV, but this is like a.
Speaker 2: Real thing and it's a serious thing.
Speaker 1: And this morning I woke up and I was scrolling
Speaker 1: TikTok and I saw several clips like not dramatizing it,
Speaker 1: but it was like Rhan Jeah for solo charges, and
Speaker 1: I was just a bit like, let's slow down and
Speaker 1: not treat this as we would treat stuff from the show.
Speaker 2: That's all I got for today. Yeah, I have a
Speaker 2: lovely night, so yeah,