WEBVTT - Lambie Unleashed 0:00:05.921 --> 0:00:07.281 Approach production. 0:00:12.481 --> 0:00:16.081 Welcome back to our Little Lady. We've been waiting to 0:00:16.121 --> 0:00:20.880 record this episode for some time. In January twenty twenty five, 0:00:21.121 --> 0:00:23.640 we headed back into Saint Helen's for the first time 0:00:24.401 --> 0:00:28.281 in almost two years. The last time we left, we 0:00:28.321 --> 0:00:32.761 felt uneasy. Maybe it was just us, but there was 0:00:32.801 --> 0:00:37.201 a strange feeling about that town. This time, driving in 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.041 it was different. I was by myself and looking forward 0:00:41.081 --> 0:00:44.281 to meeting Jackie Lamby and seeing Jason and Amanda face 0:00:44.321 --> 0:00:47.560 to face. As I drove out of my accommodation the 0:00:47.601 --> 0:00:50.521 next day, I had to pass the Fisherman's Memorial, the 0:00:50.561 --> 0:00:53.521 park where Eden was found. As I get over this 0:00:53.641 --> 0:00:58.761 hill here, i'll approach a small bridge. On my right 0:00:58.801 --> 0:01:01.801 hand side as the bay a lot of fishing boats, 0:01:02.441 --> 0:01:07.001 and then on the left is the Fisherman Memorial Park, 0:01:07.321 --> 0:01:12.401 which is also the memorial for Edon Westbrook. It was 0:01:12.441 --> 0:01:15.041 about seven am and I stopped at the wharf to 0:01:15.081 --> 0:01:18.920 walk around. I noticed while walking a lot of rope 0:01:19.041 --> 0:01:23.481 lying around, seemingly abandoned. I jumped back in the car 0:01:23.801 --> 0:01:26.360 and then drove past the place where Eden used to 0:01:26.401 --> 0:01:35.161 work Banjo's Good Arriving at Jason and Amanda's place. Jason 0:01:35.241 --> 0:01:37.921 was out mowing tidying the front yard while Amanda was 0:01:37.961 --> 0:01:41.601 putting out coffee and snacks. The first thing I saw 0:01:42.161 --> 0:01:44.241 was the new house, the building at the back of 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.041 the shed. So just got to Jason and Amanda's house. 0:01:47.041 --> 0:01:50.641 Dogs are going crazy. Jason's on the mower on the 0:01:50.641 --> 0:01:52.561 front of the moro. I've just noticed as a sticker, 0:01:53.321 --> 0:01:55.081 which is the sticker we mentioned in one of the 0:01:55.081 --> 0:01:57.361 episodes a little while ago. Now, let's go and say 0:01:57.401 --> 0:02:04.601 hi to everyone. Hello puppies. For a family that suffered 0:02:04.641 --> 0:02:07.081 so much over the last ten years, it's nice to 0:02:07.081 --> 0:02:10.241 see how excited they are about building this new home. 0:02:10.361 --> 0:02:12.601 So we've got filtered water views through there. I have 0:02:12.721 --> 0:02:14.441 good that's the bedroom up that end. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.201 Yep, it's a big five and a half plus seven. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:17.281 And a half. 0:02:17.321 --> 0:02:18.520 Oh wow, that's massive. 0:02:18.281 --> 0:02:21.321 With an on suite with a two point one eighteen 0:02:21.361 --> 0:02:23.881 hundred window. So it's just fixed window that you look 0:02:23.921 --> 0:02:26.680 out great and just a kitchen and a living dining. 0:02:26.601 --> 0:02:29.361 I can't help thinking about how proud Eden would have 0:02:29.401 --> 0:02:32.601 been of a mum and dad, just like her siblings are. 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.281 While we're chatting about the house, Jackie Lambi and her 0:02:36.321 --> 0:02:39.201 team drive up the dirt driveway. It's not the first 0:02:39.281 --> 0:02:43.321 time she's been to Jason and Amanda's. Jackie and I 0:02:43.401 --> 0:02:46.401 sit around the table with a small team plus a 0:02:46.441 --> 0:02:50.081 cameraman who's filming for an upcoming piece of content. In 0:02:50.121 --> 0:02:53.561 the background, just behind us, there are pictures of Eden 0:02:53.881 --> 0:02:58.400 and the other kids, including some in Defense Force uniforms, 0:02:58.401 --> 0:03:02.041 something Jackie knows all about. Jackie, how are you going, 0:03:02.201 --> 0:03:04.641 I'm going, well, mate. How long have you been in 0:03:04.641 --> 0:03:07.721 Tassi for this time around? As have been in Tazi. Oh, 0:03:07.721 --> 0:03:08.361 it's been nice. 0:03:08.401 --> 0:03:10.361 I haven't been in a plane, I don't think until 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.441 since the tenth of December, so it's been very very nice. 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.560 I do a road trip twice a year, yep. 0:03:15.841 --> 0:03:17.481 I mean I'm way at the road all the time anyway, 0:03:17.481 --> 0:03:19.481 but trying to do one half because it takes about 0:03:19.601 --> 0:03:21.521 nine or ten days. So we're just coming off that 0:03:22.881 --> 0:03:24.761 and done that, which has been beautiful because the weather 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.560 it's been spectacular down here, and everybody's out and about. 0:03:27.841 --> 0:03:30.201 Because I don't everybody knows how am I don't put 0:03:30.201 --> 0:03:32.800 a jacket on, so I'm not politically out there, so 0:03:32.841 --> 0:03:34.281 people are happy to say, oh. 0:03:34.201 --> 0:03:35.081 Get here, are you going? 0:03:35.121 --> 0:03:37.361 In the caravan park, and if you if you had 0:03:37.361 --> 0:03:39.161 a liberal labor party going through there, they're going what 0:03:39.201 --> 0:03:40.801 the hell are they doing at he so actually get 0:03:40.841 --> 0:03:43.161 away with that a little bit, which I'm really grateful for. 0:03:43.321 --> 0:03:47.001 Did you grew up in Tazzi's, Tazzy Girl? Did you 0:03:47.041 --> 0:03:49.521 spend any time in Saint Helen's as a kid? No? 0:03:49.761 --> 0:03:51.841 Ours was all up on the Northwest coast. So we've 0:03:51.881 --> 0:03:54.361 got guns, planes, river, we've got we used a lot 0:03:54.361 --> 0:03:58.440 of camping out at Portsourel, Hawley Way, that sort of thing. 0:03:58.481 --> 0:04:00.601 We'd have forty of us out there during the Christmas 0:04:00.641 --> 0:04:02.961 and then a lot of my Christmas holidays once I 0:04:03.081 --> 0:04:05.361 hit about nine or ten. We're down the West coast 0:04:05.441 --> 0:04:08.521 because my mum was one of twenty one Wow yeah, 0:04:08.721 --> 0:04:11.801 very busy little family. No TV back then, mate, no 0:04:11.921 --> 0:04:15.721 electricity anyway. So if her brothers weren't mining down the 0:04:15.721 --> 0:04:18.441 West coast, they were married to minus. So we'd spent 0:04:18.521 --> 0:04:20.321 a lot of time. So that's why I'm very, very 0:04:20.361 --> 0:04:23.001 fond of the West Coast. When it comes to Rosebury 0:04:23.081 --> 0:04:25.761 tallor Queenstown, that sort of thing. A lot of politicians 0:04:25.801 --> 0:04:27.640 won't go and visit them. I love going down there. 0:04:27.721 --> 0:04:30.161 How did it happen from moving from school into the 0:04:30.201 --> 0:04:32.041 Defense Force. What was that about. 0:04:32.201 --> 0:04:33.281 Yeah, I was really lucky. 0:04:33.361 --> 0:04:34.840 I took a gap year and went to the Northern 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:38.041 Territory and worked to Catherine for twelve months, spent twelve 0:04:38.041 --> 0:04:39.361 months off and on at the Catherine Hotel. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:39.801 Motel. 0:04:41.361 --> 0:04:43.321 That's a pretty full place. You're going to get life experience. 0:04:43.361 --> 0:04:45.161 Go to Catherine Hotel. Back then, it was still the 0:04:45.201 --> 0:04:47.601 Black sat in the bar. I mean that was in 0:04:48.001 --> 0:04:50.681 That was in eighty eight. That was going on. I mean, 0:04:50.761 --> 0:04:55.001 you know it isn't it. Yeah, Yeah, still didn't have 0:04:55.041 --> 0:04:57.320 them in their having county mills. So for me that 0:04:57.401 --> 0:04:59.401 was a wake up call. I'm really grateful because I 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:01.161 learned a lot about the indigenous living up there. So 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:03.681 that's one of my I really love getting at them, 0:05:03.801 --> 0:05:05.001 to those indigenous communities. 0:05:05.201 --> 0:05:05.681 I love it. 0:05:06.681 --> 0:05:08.520 So It's funny how when you do things in life, 0:05:08.521 --> 0:05:10.361 it comes back and you go, actually, I'm glad I 0:05:10.361 --> 0:05:11.801 did all of that because it's an interest I have 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:12.601 in politics. 0:05:13.241 --> 0:05:15.801 That settled me down a bit because. 0:05:15.521 --> 0:05:17.801 On my girlfriends had left year twelve and I was 0:05:17.841 --> 0:05:20.520 actually going back and I studied really really hard. That 0:05:20.601 --> 0:05:23.440 sort of settled me down and then I did start 0:05:23.481 --> 0:05:25.241 getting in that wrong crowd, and we just happened to 0:05:25.281 --> 0:05:27.841 be going down to Sencilink because two of my girlfriends 0:05:27.841 --> 0:05:30.721 by looking for jobs. And I call it the Kermit 0:05:30.921 --> 0:05:32.681 the frog bus because it used to be a green 0:05:32.761 --> 0:05:35.081 army bus running around then trying to recruit people. 0:05:35.641 --> 0:05:36.281 And we all. 0:05:36.161 --> 0:05:38.201 Decided we were going to that seat. We're going to 0:05:38.201 --> 0:05:41.721 be g I Jack's or g I Jane's and we 0:05:41.761 --> 0:05:43.601 all went into it and we're all going to sign up. 0:05:43.801 --> 0:05:45.960 So I signed up first. They got their clipboard to 0:05:45.961 --> 0:05:47.881 sign and then did a run around me. So when 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.401 I said, actually I don't want to join, he said, 0:05:49.401 --> 0:05:51.521 you'll be right, sweaty, you'll survive it. 0:05:51.721 --> 0:05:53.521 Yes, that's Saturdays. I was in within about. 0:05:53.281 --> 0:05:55.640 Twelve weeks straight in as a grunt wheel or. 0:05:55.721 --> 0:05:57.880 The Australians and one went into the transport drive. And 0:05:57.921 --> 0:05:59.721 my dad was a truck driver for many many years, 0:05:59.841 --> 0:06:00.921 fifty years of his life. 0:06:01.001 --> 0:06:02.121 So for me it was in my blood. 0:06:02.121 --> 0:06:03.761 I was sitting on Daz's and when I was six 0:06:03.801 --> 0:06:06.121 months old, you know the steering wheel that, so for 0:06:06.201 --> 0:06:07.121 me it was second nature. 0:06:07.961 --> 0:06:08.961 So I did that. 0:06:09.201 --> 0:06:11.841 My two friends went through her. They've had you know, 0:06:11.961 --> 0:06:13.841 drug and Acco whole problems. They've had men in and 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.161 out of jail. It's been really awful to watch to 0:06:16.241 --> 0:06:19.001 watch what's their lives evolved in. Things settled now they've 0:06:19.041 --> 0:06:22.200 got a bit older, a bit worn out. But yeah, 0:06:22.281 --> 0:06:25.401 so my life took a very very different avenue to 0:06:25.521 --> 0:06:26.241 what theirs did. 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:27.921 So I've always been grateful it was meant to be 0:06:28.041 --> 0:06:29.161 for me to sign up that day. 0:06:30.201 --> 0:06:33.441 Over my right shoulder. There's a whole bunch of pictures 0:06:33.481 --> 0:06:36.561 on the wall of the Westbrook clan and a lot 0:06:36.641 --> 0:06:39.761 of them are dressed in military because they're part of 0:06:39.801 --> 0:06:42.761 the Defense Force. How much has that connected you to 0:06:42.801 --> 0:06:43.401 the Westbrooks. 0:06:43.841 --> 0:06:46.441 Well, that's how I got connected in the first place. Yeah, Okay, 0:06:46.601 --> 0:06:48.401 So we were helping one of the kids out with 0:06:48.481 --> 0:06:50.921 their claims and stuff like that, and so from that 0:06:51.121 --> 0:06:53.801 came that we've lost a daughter as well, and then 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.441 so I started to pick that up and then I 0:06:55.521 --> 0:06:57.881 got done onto section forty four. So I was like, 0:06:57.961 --> 0:06:59.440 I just can't do anything for you guys. I've got 0:06:59.481 --> 0:07:01.081 no privilege. I've got to know nothing. I have to 0:07:01.081 --> 0:07:03.281 step out and win my seat back section forty four. 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.361 Section forty four is because I had Scottish heritage, and 0:07:06.401 --> 0:07:09.601 I hadn't renounced because my granddad and my dad had 0:07:09.641 --> 0:07:12.121 come through, and my granddad and my dad never renounced. 0:07:12.201 --> 0:07:13.921 During that period of time, I got stuck with it 0:07:14.001 --> 0:07:15.841 as well. So I was a dual citizen. 0:07:16.161 --> 0:07:19.521 And so you essentially left politics and then came back. Yeah. 0:07:19.561 --> 0:07:23.081 I left politics for nearly two years, and the TVs 0:07:23.121 --> 0:07:24.081 were very lovely to me. 0:07:24.161 --> 0:07:27.201 I got to do celebrity. Get me out of here. Hey, guys, 0:07:27.561 --> 0:07:29.361 get I I'm about to go to the jungle. I'm 0:07:29.441 --> 0:07:31.961 so looking forward to it. I'm quite excited about going 0:07:32.041 --> 0:07:34.001 in there. So I wish me the best of luck, 0:07:34.041 --> 0:07:35.761 and I'll see you when I get back from the jungle. 0:07:36.521 --> 0:07:38.201 Yeah, I did go back to where you come from. 0:07:38.401 --> 0:07:40.841 That sort of kept me going. I think out of that, 0:07:40.961 --> 0:07:43.001 I was able to earn about sixty grand over that 0:07:43.121 --> 0:07:45.961 two years, and I used I was two or three 0:07:46.001 --> 0:07:48.601 years up in my house payments, so I diluted that 0:07:48.721 --> 0:07:50.921 right down over that two years. And then I think 0:07:50.961 --> 0:07:53.281 I spent about seventy grand to win my seatback after 0:07:53.361 --> 0:07:53.881 two years. 0:07:54.241 --> 0:07:55.281 And Dad and I would just. 0:07:55.321 --> 0:07:57.121 Be in an old van going round and ran around 0:07:57.161 --> 0:07:59.281 with Jackie Lamby all over it because I just don't 0:07:59.281 --> 0:08:00.441 come from a family with money. 0:08:00.601 --> 0:08:03.281 So what is it about politics that you love? 0:08:04.241 --> 0:08:07.241 I think for me, for politics that I love is 0:08:07.521 --> 0:08:10.521 just bringing the injustices out because apparently there's lack of 0:08:10.641 --> 0:08:13.401 courage up there. I think when you go through something 0:08:13.441 --> 0:08:15.001 that I went through, where I had to fight a 0:08:15.121 --> 0:08:19.521 government department, and I realized going through that for ten 0:08:19.601 --> 0:08:22.721 or eleven years, I worked out very early on in 0:08:22.801 --> 0:08:24.721 two thousand and the only way I was going to 0:08:24.721 --> 0:08:26.401 be able to help veterans of myself is I need 0:08:26.441 --> 0:08:29.241 to be inside the pie. I had no idea about politics. 0:08:29.561 --> 0:08:31.001 I had no idea between the lower House and the 0:08:31.041 --> 0:08:32.481 upper House. But what I did is I needed a 0:08:32.521 --> 0:08:34.801 lot less numbers to get in that cent and the 0:08:34.881 --> 0:08:36.361 only way we were going to crack this is one 0:08:36.401 --> 0:08:38.001 of U squat in there and didn't belong to a 0:08:38.121 --> 0:08:38.681 major party. 0:08:38.761 --> 0:08:41.201 That's all I knew. I knew that back in two 0:08:41.241 --> 0:08:41.961 thousand and three, and. 0:08:42.001 --> 0:08:44.561 Then it took me another ten years to actually get there. 0:08:44.641 --> 0:08:47.561 So my journey I ended up in a psich unit. 0:08:47.601 --> 0:08:48.961 I ended up walking out in front of a car. 0:08:49.041 --> 0:08:51.121 In two thousand and nine. I was on a lot 0:08:51.161 --> 0:08:54.601 of pharmaceuticals. I was heavily drugged for many years as 0:08:54.641 --> 0:08:56.441 I lot, because it's the only way I could control 0:08:56.521 --> 0:08:59.841 the pain. I had no life whatsoever. My life was 0:08:59.921 --> 0:09:01.841 just being making sure my boys were fed. That was 0:09:01.921 --> 0:09:04.961 my daily routine because I just the pain was unbearable. 0:09:05.641 --> 0:09:08.321 So anyways, so we dried out all of superannuation and 0:09:08.401 --> 0:09:10.361 we ended up taking all that out to try and 0:09:10.481 --> 0:09:12.841 keep the house in two thousand and nine. 0:09:13.441 --> 0:09:14.401 So I had nothing left. 0:09:14.441 --> 0:09:16.281 So when I walked into politics at forty four, I 0:09:16.321 --> 0:09:19.601 had about four bucks in the bank, no superannuation and 0:09:19.761 --> 0:09:22.361 nothing and nothing, no house left, anything, nothing, that was it. 0:09:22.601 --> 0:09:24.041 That's all I had. In the clothes on my back. 0:09:24.321 --> 0:09:26.321 For the first three months I was in politics, I 0:09:26.481 --> 0:09:29.601 was wearing clothes from Venice and the Second and the opshops. 0:09:29.841 --> 0:09:30.841 That's how I survived. 0:09:31.441 --> 0:09:33.601 There's one thing you notice when you're talking to Jackie. 0:09:33.761 --> 0:09:37.361 She's a fighter. She's not the traditional politician. There's no 0:09:37.481 --> 0:09:41.281 airs or graces, no hauling punches, and that's why she's 0:09:41.361 --> 0:09:45.561 one of Australia's most popular politicians right now. She doesn't 0:09:45.641 --> 0:09:48.521 come from money or privilege and I sort of see 0:09:48.561 --> 0:09:53.041 similarities between her life and Jason and Amanda's. Jackie, like 0:09:53.161 --> 0:09:56.721 Amanda is feisty when it comes to right versus wrong. 0:09:57.281 --> 0:09:59.681 There is nothing that I hate more than cover up, 0:10:00.281 --> 0:10:02.801 especially dealing with the militey. Over time. We just come 0:10:02.841 --> 0:10:06.481 out of a Royal commission el because of the cover ups. 0:10:06.361 --> 0:10:06.681 That go on. 0:10:06.841 --> 0:10:09.441 I've seen that as being military police. I know how 0:10:09.481 --> 0:10:11.201 it works in there. Oh my god, if you want 0:10:11.241 --> 0:10:13.841 to cover it up, she's in the institution, she'll get 0:10:13.921 --> 0:10:14.321 covered up. 0:10:14.761 --> 0:10:16.001 So for me, it's all. 0:10:15.921 --> 0:10:18.041 About what's the right thing. I was brought up to 0:10:18.241 --> 0:10:21.241 know right from wrong. You know, not to steal, not 0:10:21.441 --> 0:10:23.841 to lie, and that's what it is. It's just a 0:10:23.881 --> 0:10:26.881 bloody cover up up there. Disgust me. It's an institution. 0:10:27.401 --> 0:10:31.641 Anything that's institutional, whether it's our universities, whether it's defense, 0:10:32.001 --> 0:10:35.161 whether it's politics. All right, those people come institution and 0:10:35.241 --> 0:10:37.161 what they do is that the first thing that they're taught, 0:10:37.241 --> 0:10:40.521 especially the hierarchy, is cover the institutions asked at all costs, 0:10:40.961 --> 0:10:43.881 at all costs. Doesn't matter whether you're taking people's lives, 0:10:43.921 --> 0:10:46.961 you will cover the institution's ass at all costs. Nah, 0:10:47.281 --> 0:10:49.521 I don't think so. No, when it comes to people's lives. 0:10:49.961 --> 0:10:51.681 If I can't wake up and put the boxing gloves 0:10:51.721 --> 0:10:53.681 on first thing in the morning, before I do anything else, 0:10:53.681 --> 0:10:55.321 before I even go to the toilet. 0:10:55.921 --> 0:10:58.321 Then I'm not in politics. Those boxing gloves have got 0:10:58.361 --> 0:11:00.401 to come in and they've got to be on first 0:11:00.441 --> 0:11:01.001 thing in the morning. 0:11:01.241 --> 0:11:02.881 So you know, it's great not to belong to those 0:11:02.961 --> 0:11:06.241 major parties and come out bear to fight for people 0:11:06.281 --> 0:11:08.761 without any restrictions. And I had no restriction. I tell you, 0:11:09.241 --> 0:11:11.641 if I believe there's an injustice done and I can 0:11:11.681 --> 0:11:14.001 watch that family hurting and those people around them, I'm 0:11:14.001 --> 0:11:15.641 going to fight like a bitch. That's what I do 0:11:16.121 --> 0:11:18.601 until I get the bloody answers. And I can smell 0:11:18.641 --> 0:11:20.641 it because I was in military police. She can smell it. 0:11:21.001 --> 0:11:21.161 You know. 0:11:21.161 --> 0:11:22.841 I'm around people all the time. You got, yeah, something's 0:11:22.841 --> 0:11:26.321 not right here. It's your bullshit radar, and it needs 0:11:26.361 --> 0:11:28.201 to be up all the time. The longer run politics, 0:11:28.241 --> 0:11:28.921 a better it gets. 0:11:30.281 --> 0:11:32.881 Jackie first met Jason and Amanda when she was helping 0:11:33.001 --> 0:11:35.561 with the family and a private matter that we won't 0:11:35.601 --> 0:11:39.241 discuss here, but I wanted to know why, specifically she 0:11:39.401 --> 0:11:41.681 dug into the case of Enan Westbrook. 0:11:42.081 --> 0:11:43.881 I think when I looked at it, the first thing 0:11:44.001 --> 0:11:47.761 I thought, that's interesting because a young person that age 0:11:47.801 --> 0:11:51.441 doesn't hang themselves, Veterans hang themselves, first responders hang themselves. 0:11:51.801 --> 0:11:53.601 A lot of people will jump, and those. 0:11:53.521 --> 0:11:57.281 Kids usually cut their wrists, all taken overdose. And my 0:11:57.401 --> 0:11:59.401 other thing was, gee, that's a clever little girl to 0:11:59.721 --> 0:12:02.281 tie that around. How hell did she get up that tree? 0:12:03.081 --> 0:12:06.041 It just didn't make sense of just none of it did, 0:12:06.081 --> 0:12:08.721 and I couldn't get the answers that I needed. So 0:12:09.361 --> 0:12:10.961 for me, I backed off that a little bit. And 0:12:11.001 --> 0:12:12.641 then some other people come into the game. Because I 0:12:12.681 --> 0:12:14.201 only got so many people and I've got so many 0:12:14.281 --> 0:12:16.321 jobs to it, they'll relive very heavily on them getting 0:12:16.321 --> 0:12:19.001 that evidence for me. And then I use my political 0:12:19.081 --> 0:12:21.041 power to go even further and go roll, Well, you 0:12:21.161 --> 0:12:23.361 do the RTI out for me or thefo Y out 0:12:23.401 --> 0:12:25.801 for me, because you know where it is. So I'm 0:12:25.841 --> 0:12:28.481 doing this. I'm playing the person in between. Something stunk 0:12:28.481 --> 0:12:30.961 about this whole case. I'm sorry, but me having that 0:12:31.041 --> 0:12:33.361 military police experience for five years, I thought things don't 0:12:33.361 --> 0:12:33.841 add up. 0:12:33.921 --> 0:12:37.081 And where's the rope? Where's the autopsy farers. 0:12:37.121 --> 0:12:40.521 We're the only state where these people can't say I 0:12:40.561 --> 0:12:44.801 want those autopsy photos. It's absolutely disgusting. I've got guy 0:12:44.881 --> 0:12:47.001 Barnett down there the AG which is about as much 0:12:47.081 --> 0:12:48.161 help as a wet paper bag. 0:12:48.681 --> 0:12:50.561 I don't have a lot of time for him at all. 0:12:51.241 --> 0:12:53.721 That makes me anngry, and that makes me fight even more. 0:12:54.361 --> 0:12:56.761 Just get the autopsy photos and pass the bastards over. 0:12:57.161 --> 0:12:58.601 I can see you wasting time because I'm going to 0:12:58.641 --> 0:13:00.361 come down on you like a bloody bitch anyway. 0:13:00.761 --> 0:13:01.681 And That's what I'm going to do. 0:13:01.801 --> 0:13:03.241 And I'm not giving this up until I find and 0:13:03.241 --> 0:13:07.041 I reckon we're about this close. Was also the kids now, 0:13:07.121 --> 0:13:09.761 speaking to the kids, and then when Edy passonated go 0:13:09.801 --> 0:13:11.721 and put the makeup and that on, and you know, 0:13:11.921 --> 0:13:14.921 just that they noticed the bruising on her and the 0:13:15.001 --> 0:13:16.081 broken teeth and all that. 0:13:16.521 --> 0:13:18.881 That was the clature for me, So no, something's wrong here. 0:13:19.361 --> 0:13:20.881 First all I couldn't understand how you get up the 0:13:20.921 --> 0:13:22.801 bloody story with this bloody rope, how she learned how 0:13:22.801 --> 0:13:25.481 to tie these things. What I could see about the 0:13:25.521 --> 0:13:28.361 investigation was from me that they got there, they went, 0:13:28.641 --> 0:13:32.321 she hung herself. That's the investigation over. They didn't look 0:13:32.361 --> 0:13:35.121 at anything else. You know, I still don't know where 0:13:35.121 --> 0:13:37.281 the forensics are off the rope. That rope to me 0:13:37.801 --> 0:13:39.481 is the clinch of the rope and the top. We 0:13:39.601 --> 0:13:41.841 need to look at those autopsy photos and I need 0:13:41.881 --> 0:13:43.401 that rope, and we still don't know where the rope is. 0:13:43.681 --> 0:13:45.721 And the more pressure on them, you keep putting pressure 0:13:45.801 --> 0:13:48.521 on these people, what happens is the institution starts to 0:13:48.561 --> 0:13:50.721 fall apart because one of them will go, shit, I'm 0:13:50.721 --> 0:13:51.521 not going down with this. 0:13:52.081 --> 0:13:53.321 I'm not going down this. I'm going to go and 0:13:53.361 --> 0:13:55.401 spilm my guts. That's where I want it. 0:13:56.121 --> 0:13:59.521 Last night, on the opening night of the Senate, Jackie 0:13:59.601 --> 0:14:03.601 Lamby spoke again under parliamentary privilege about Eden's case. 0:14:04.401 --> 0:14:07.001 There's been all ten years since much Love fifteen year 0:14:07.001 --> 0:14:09.761 old Eden Westbrook was found hanging in a park in 0:14:09.801 --> 0:14:13.241 Saint Helen's, Tasmania. Ten years since the police told her 0:14:13.281 --> 0:14:16.161 family that she had taken her own life. Ten long 0:14:16.281 --> 0:14:19.601 years for the Westbrook family fighting through their grief to 0:14:19.641 --> 0:14:22.681 search for answers. The police said it was suicide, but 0:14:22.761 --> 0:14:26.121 the evidence that Edie was murdered just keeps stacking up. 0:14:26.721 --> 0:14:29.681 As I stated in my speeches in July November last year, 0:14:30.001 --> 0:14:33.161 this whole coast stinks to high heaven of incompetence. The 0:14:33.241 --> 0:14:36.921 ongoing failure to provide the autopsy photos to Amanda and 0:14:37.001 --> 0:14:39.881 her husband, Joseph Westbrook so that we can have them 0:14:39.921 --> 0:14:44.081 independently scrutinizes frankly shocking. What are they trying to hide, 0:14:44.961 --> 0:14:48.361 especially in the light of evidence from Edie's sisters who 0:14:48.561 --> 0:14:52.681 applied makeup to Eden before she was cremated that she 0:14:52.881 --> 0:14:57.201 had facial bruising and shattered teeth, evidence which flies in 0:14:57.281 --> 0:14:59.681 the face of the comments by the Chief Magistrate in 0:14:59.801 --> 0:15:03.401 twenty twenty two of Tasmania there were no signs of 0:15:03.441 --> 0:15:05.121 trauma to Eden, according. 0:15:04.761 --> 0:15:08.721 To her Jesus. Then there were the inquiries by the Ridgewater. 0:15:08.361 --> 0:15:11.641 Police some months after Eden's death with a key witness, 0:15:12.001 --> 0:15:15.361 Kim Woodcock, as to whether she noticed marks on Eden's wrists. 0:15:15.881 --> 0:15:17.601 It was apparently suggested. 0:15:17.161 --> 0:15:19.841 That Eden's hands may have been tied behind her back, 0:15:20.121 --> 0:15:22.561 makes it very difficult to hang yourself. Then there is 0:15:22.601 --> 0:15:24.961 what appears at this stage to be the complete failure 0:15:25.281 --> 0:15:27.241 took a secure and preserve the. 0:15:27.281 --> 0:15:29.201 Evidence never seen anything like in my time. 0:15:29.481 --> 0:15:32.161 I'm talking about the rope that Eden supposedly used. 0:15:32.681 --> 0:15:35.121 In any case like this, the body and the rope. 0:15:35.201 --> 0:15:37.201 Are the two most crucial pieces of evidence. 0:15:37.721 --> 0:15:39.441 Repeater requests to. 0:15:39.481 --> 0:15:41.561 The Tasmanian Police and the Police Minister. 0:15:41.401 --> 0:15:43.801 Have failed miserably to provide any. 0:15:43.721 --> 0:15:46.721 Information about the location and the status of the rope. 0:15:47.481 --> 0:15:48.441 The Right to information. 0:15:48.561 --> 0:15:52.281 Forensic documents suggests that police quickly decided. 0:15:51.881 --> 0:15:53.321 That Eden's death was a suicide. 0:15:53.401 --> 0:15:55.641 Nothing to see here because she had rope fibers in 0:15:55.721 --> 0:15:59.241 her hands. Seriously, go and do your investigations properly, and 0:15:59.321 --> 0:16:01.561 because Amanda Westbrook said that the rope was from a 0:16:01.641 --> 0:16:02.441 craypot at. 0:16:02.321 --> 0:16:05.321 Their home, except that Amanda says she never this. 0:16:05.361 --> 0:16:07.761 And it's not in the statements, although she may have 0:16:07.881 --> 0:16:10.401 commented that it was similar color to the ropes at 0:16:10.401 --> 0:16:13.761 their place and couldn't rote fibers in Eden's hands also 0:16:13.881 --> 0:16:17.241 be indication of struggle and murder. The police never followed 0:16:17.361 --> 0:16:20.441 up on this issue of the rope with the west Books, 0:16:20.601 --> 0:16:24.041 nor nor did they disceal the evidence. You didn't go 0:16:24.161 --> 0:16:26.361 across the road to the wharf where all. 0:16:26.321 --> 0:16:29.401 That rope is. You never even across that road. You 0:16:29.521 --> 0:16:32.521 didn't do your evidence properly. Her mom and dad until 0:16:32.561 --> 0:16:34.561 twelve days after their daughter. It appears they. 0:16:34.441 --> 0:16:36.601 Didn't check the nearby wolves like I've said, which was 0:16:36.641 --> 0:16:38.801 straight across the ropes ropes everywhere. 0:16:39.201 --> 0:16:41.081 Eden's case, the death of a child, a young and 0:16:41.161 --> 0:16:42.801 intelligent woman, and what should have. 0:16:42.801 --> 0:16:48.041 Been a highly suspicious circumstances, involves an unbelievably flawed police 0:16:48.121 --> 0:16:51.641 investigation like nothing I have ever come across in my life, 0:16:51.921 --> 0:16:56.961 and poor use of intelligence, multiple forensic failures, including unaccredited 0:16:57.001 --> 0:17:02.681 forensic services, inadequate investigate investiative reviews, including a review by 0:17:02.721 --> 0:17:06.761 Saint Helen's police officer following a form referral from the 0:17:06.801 --> 0:17:10.120 Commission of Inquiry into Sexual Abuse in early twenty twenty 0:17:10.201 --> 0:17:13.640 three after whistleblower nominated a person of interest and an 0:17:13.681 --> 0:17:17.521 actual suspect in Eden's death, and no written statements were 0:17:17.561 --> 0:17:20.881 taken from that person either. And the tasmane in Coroner's 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:24.080 Act ninety ninety five is simply not fit for purpose. 0:17:24.561 --> 0:17:27.681 It's not even possible for our Attorney General, the first 0:17:27.761 --> 0:17:31.961 law officer in Tasmania, to intervene in extraordinary circumstances like 0:17:32.041 --> 0:17:34.600 this and direct an inquest into this case. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:36.481 With the only state that does this. By the way, 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:37.801 we're bloody miles. 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:41.840 Behind a compromised and corrupted coronial system with a dishonest 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:45.241 pedophile cop involved, who was a coroner's associate and who 0:17:45.281 --> 0:17:49.001