1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apoge Production. 2 00:00:10,921 --> 00:00:14,081 Speaker 2: Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashley and I'm Tiana. 3 00:00:14,361 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: This podcast is about female empowerment and encouraging you to 4 00:00:17,361 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: be your biggest, boldest, and most authentic version of yourself. 5 00:00:20,961 --> 00:00:23,281 Speaker 2: We help you shed the shame, grow to a new level. 6 00:00:23,321 --> 00:00:26,241 Speaker 2: We're gonna laugh, cry, and talk about the topics everyone 7 00:00:26,281 --> 00:00:27,801 Speaker 2: else is too afraid to talk about. 8 00:00:28,401 --> 00:00:30,721 Speaker 1: Get ready for your next level of self. 9 00:00:31,081 --> 00:00:34,201 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome back to she Rises another Wednesday episode. 10 00:00:34,441 --> 00:00:36,041 Speaker 1: We're so excited to be in your ears. 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: And today it's a beautiful topic. We're talking about how 12 00:00:37,921 --> 00:00:41,081 Speaker 2: to be both soft and strong at the same time, 13 00:00:41,161 --> 00:00:43,961 Speaker 2: because I think there's this belief that if you're too 14 00:00:44,001 --> 00:00:46,361 Speaker 2: soft and too feminine, you won't get anything done, or 15 00:00:46,361 --> 00:00:48,681 Speaker 2: you won't be able to say no. All the other way, 16 00:00:48,721 --> 00:00:52,841 Speaker 2: if you're too assertive and strong and hard, that you 17 00:00:52,881 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: can't be soft and inviting and flowy and all that beautiful, 18 00:00:57,641 --> 00:00:59,401 Speaker 2: juicy energy that we all know and love when you're 19 00:00:59,401 --> 00:01:00,961 Speaker 2: in your feminine. 20 00:01:00,641 --> 00:01:02,441 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting as well because it's almost like 21 00:01:02,481 --> 00:01:04,801 Speaker 1: this belief that you can only be one way, yeah, 22 00:01:05,081 --> 00:01:07,961 Speaker 1: only one thing, Like you're either super in your masculine energy, 23 00:01:08,001 --> 00:01:10,401 Speaker 1: you're super in your feminine you're super flowy, So we 24 00:01:10,441 --> 00:01:12,241 Speaker 1: want to have that conversation today to help you kind 25 00:01:12,241 --> 00:01:14,921 Speaker 1: of balance those energies out and to really anchor into 26 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,801 Speaker 1: how you can be both assertive but also be strong 27 00:01:17,881 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: and soft as well. 28 00:01:19,041 --> 00:01:22,241 Speaker 2: When you can blend both. You were so powerful. I 29 00:01:22,241 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: had this one girlfriend who lived in Vegas. She was 30 00:01:24,761 --> 00:01:28,681 Speaker 2: called the Ladies Coach on Instagram and Nam's Crystal Fointees, 31 00:01:28,761 --> 00:01:31,761 Speaker 2: and I was just always so drawn to her, And 32 00:01:31,801 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: now I can understand why, So let me explain it. 33 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: I met her at a Tony Robin's event, and yet energetically, 34 00:01:37,961 --> 00:01:39,881 Speaker 2: I just like felt this pull of wanting to talk 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,161 Speaker 2: to her, But I also felt really intimidated by her 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,761 Speaker 2: because I just put her on a pedestal. Everything we're 37 00:01:44,801 --> 00:01:47,161 Speaker 2: about to talk about she was that. She was the 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:53,641 Speaker 2: most fiercely strong, powerful, opinionated, not even loud, but her 39 00:01:53,721 --> 00:01:54,921 Speaker 2: energy felt really big. 40 00:01:55,081 --> 00:01:56,121 Speaker 1: It was like a bold energy. 41 00:01:56,201 --> 00:02:00,201 Speaker 2: Bold that's a good word. But then at the same time, 42 00:02:00,441 --> 00:02:03,921 Speaker 2: she had this softness where you just felt safe and 43 00:02:04,041 --> 00:02:06,561 Speaker 2: you could tell her anything and you trusted her immediately. 44 00:02:06,881 --> 00:02:09,641 Speaker 2: But like I could unload and ask for her advice, 45 00:02:10,041 --> 00:02:12,681 Speaker 2: and I always was confused. Now I've got more awares now, 46 00:02:12,761 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: but confused of how you could be both because I 47 00:02:14,721 --> 00:02:17,521 Speaker 2: think I was running more on the masculine and strong 48 00:02:17,721 --> 00:02:20,281 Speaker 2: get shit done. I've got everyone, and I can take 49 00:02:20,321 --> 00:02:23,041 Speaker 2: care of everyone financially or help them with their work. 50 00:02:23,121 --> 00:02:25,921 Speaker 2: I was more on that side. But to see someone 51 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,361 Speaker 2: be able to do both and blend them at the 52 00:02:28,361 --> 00:02:31,161 Speaker 2: same time, I was like, hell, and there's not many 53 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,561 Speaker 2: women that I have met in my life that can 54 00:02:33,601 --> 00:02:35,601 Speaker 2: do both of that. I feel like I either have 55 00:02:35,761 --> 00:02:38,001 Speaker 2: women that are quite in their masculine and their hustle 56 00:02:38,041 --> 00:02:41,201 Speaker 2: eraror and like getting shit done, or they're the other 57 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,641 Speaker 2: way and they're super flowy and feminine, but they're almost 58 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: too far that way that they're not getting stuff done 59 00:02:46,561 --> 00:02:49,321 Speaker 2: and they're they're feeling frustrated they're not getting stuff done 60 00:02:49,401 --> 00:02:52,001 Speaker 2: and you know, being taken advantage of or can't say no, 61 00:02:52,121 --> 00:02:54,561 Speaker 2: and they're wanting to be a people pleaser. But someone 62 00:02:54,561 --> 00:02:56,961 Speaker 2: that can blend both is so beautiful, And that's been 63 00:02:57,001 --> 00:02:58,881 Speaker 2: a goal of mine, is how can I bring both 64 00:02:58,881 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: of those in? And I think there is skill to it. 65 00:03:01,201 --> 00:03:03,441 Speaker 2: There is, there's a lot of skill and awareness around it. 66 00:03:03,761 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: So let's talk about it. So I think we need 67 00:03:06,121 --> 00:03:08,201 Speaker 2: to challenge the belief. I've got these notes, want to 68 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,121 Speaker 2: read it out, challenging the belief that's strength equals hardness 69 00:03:11,401 --> 00:03:14,601 Speaker 2: and softness equals weakness. That's not true. 70 00:03:14,721 --> 00:03:16,521 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so interesting, hey, because it's like when you 71 00:03:16,561 --> 00:03:20,161 Speaker 1: are more like the hardness, it feels a little bit 72 00:03:20,281 --> 00:03:23,161 Speaker 1: like rigid almost, Yeah, rigid, Like you almost are like 73 00:03:23,201 --> 00:03:27,161 Speaker 1: a fortress where like emotionally you're not super connected to 74 00:03:27,201 --> 00:03:30,041 Speaker 1: yourself and maybe a lean more like logical and you're 75 00:03:30,081 --> 00:03:32,641 Speaker 1: really in your head and you're making logical decisions, but 76 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,401 Speaker 1: you don't feel as connected to your central feminine flow, 77 00:03:35,841 --> 00:03:37,401 Speaker 1: you know. But it's almost like you have to be 78 00:03:38,241 --> 00:03:41,241 Speaker 1: rigid and firm and super strong on your boundaries and 79 00:03:41,281 --> 00:03:44,001 Speaker 1: there's almost like no adaptability. 80 00:03:43,401 --> 00:03:45,601 Speaker 2: Flexibility, no fluidity. 81 00:03:45,481 --> 00:03:47,721 Speaker 1: H I never get that right, And I think that's 82 00:03:47,721 --> 00:03:49,841 Speaker 1: a really interesting thing what you mentioned before, Like a 83 00:03:49,841 --> 00:03:51,961 Speaker 1: lot of women really do get stuck in that, whether 84 00:03:52,001 --> 00:03:54,761 Speaker 1: it be in relationships, whether it be trying to step 85 00:03:54,761 --> 00:03:57,201 Speaker 1: into a more sea or role in their work and 86 00:03:57,241 --> 00:04:00,481 Speaker 1: their careers. Because we do have to operate in that energy, 87 00:04:00,681 --> 00:04:02,281 Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean you have to be that all 88 00:04:02,321 --> 00:04:04,681 Speaker 1: the time. No, And I think that's what you're talking about. 89 00:04:04,681 --> 00:04:06,841 Speaker 1: It is like learning how to build that skill of 90 00:04:06,881 --> 00:04:10,041 Speaker 1: being able to switch from that more masculine energy to 91 00:04:10,641 --> 00:04:11,481 Speaker 1: feminine energy. 92 00:04:11,561 --> 00:04:13,521 Speaker 2: There's a time and place for both, and it is 93 00:04:13,561 --> 00:04:15,961 Speaker 2: about feeling into when the right time is to be 94 00:04:16,041 --> 00:04:18,241 Speaker 2: in both energies as well. I know when I'm at work, 95 00:04:18,761 --> 00:04:20,761 Speaker 2: I feel like we she rises, it's different. I feel 96 00:04:20,841 --> 00:04:23,281 Speaker 2: we blend both really well. We are very flowy and 97 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,641 Speaker 2: feminine and it's very from the heart and we've got 98 00:04:26,681 --> 00:04:28,881 Speaker 2: a big purpose in it. But we also have things 99 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,721 Speaker 2: that have deadlines, we have things we need to get done, 100 00:04:30,761 --> 00:04:32,481 Speaker 2: and both are led really well. But I think previously 101 00:04:32,481 --> 00:04:35,481 Speaker 2: in business, I've been all of my masculine and then 102 00:04:35,641 --> 00:04:38,321 Speaker 2: when I close down Baseline and I wanted to slow 103 00:04:38,401 --> 00:04:40,681 Speaker 2: down and focus on my health. Even actually, when I 104 00:04:40,721 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: had Baseline, I felt like I was separating the energies. 105 00:04:43,481 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: At work, I was masculine. Once I came home, I 106 00:04:45,681 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: was feminine. But I like blending both. Even being parenting, 107 00:04:49,721 --> 00:04:52,161 Speaker 2: I feel like it's quite masculine. These little people are 108 00:04:52,641 --> 00:04:55,001 Speaker 2: relying on you to survive. You have to be on 109 00:04:55,241 --> 00:04:58,361 Speaker 2: all the time. But bringing a feminine flow into the 110 00:04:58,401 --> 00:05:00,361 Speaker 2: way that your parent is really beautiful. You can be 111 00:05:00,521 --> 00:05:02,921 Speaker 2: strong and have boundaries with your children, but you can 112 00:05:02,961 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: also do it in a really soft, loving, fluid way. 113 00:05:06,001 --> 00:05:07,361 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be one way or the other. 114 00:05:07,641 --> 00:05:09,161 Speaker 2: And that's why I'm trying to blend that in all 115 00:05:09,201 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: areas of my life. So in my relationship, I'm strong 116 00:05:11,361 --> 00:05:13,481 Speaker 2: on my boundaries. I know what I want, I'm very 117 00:05:13,481 --> 00:05:15,441 Speaker 2: clear on that, but I deliver it in a really 118 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,801 Speaker 2: soft tone. Now I deliver it in a way that's 119 00:05:17,801 --> 00:05:20,721 Speaker 2: bringing us together and it's connecting, not rules of like 120 00:05:20,721 --> 00:05:21,721 Speaker 2: this is how you have to be. 121 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:22,561 Speaker 1: You have to change. 122 00:05:22,641 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: Yes, it's your fault. I'm over here, you know, on 123 00:05:25,281 --> 00:05:27,641 Speaker 2: my high horse. It's it's like blending both in there. 124 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,361 Speaker 2: And that's what I've always really admired with Crystal is 125 00:05:30,361 --> 00:05:31,121 Speaker 2: how she's done that. 126 00:05:31,641 --> 00:05:33,881 Speaker 1: Beautiful. Let's explod I want to explore this a little bit. 127 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,401 Speaker 1: So like when you were mentioning Baseline and the difference 128 00:05:36,401 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: between She Rises and Baseline, what do you think is 129 00:05:39,361 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: the difference between how you show up now versus how 130 00:05:42,241 --> 00:05:42,921 Speaker 1: you should have then? 131 00:05:43,121 --> 00:05:46,801 Speaker 2: Yes, I felt like with Baseline, I felt so much 132 00:05:46,961 --> 00:05:50,241 Speaker 2: weight on my shoulders and it was very like numbers driven, 133 00:05:50,561 --> 00:05:53,001 Speaker 2: like we had to be selling a certain amount of clothes. 134 00:05:53,041 --> 00:05:55,561 Speaker 2: We had to be hitting numbers to pay the wages 135 00:05:55,601 --> 00:05:58,281 Speaker 2: and to get things done. And yes, there was the 136 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,761 Speaker 2: creativity of the clothing. And I loved the marketing and 137 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:06,121 Speaker 2: the storytelling and putting meaning behind the word baseline. I 138 00:06:06,161 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: want a women wore baseline to when they put the 139 00:06:08,561 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: clothes on, to think about where their baseline was in 140 00:06:10,681 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: all areas of their life, especially their health and fitness, 141 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: and where can they raise it. There was still story 142 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,721 Speaker 2: and purpose behind it, but I felt as the business 143 00:06:16,761 --> 00:06:18,361 Speaker 2: went on it was like once we hit one goal, 144 00:06:18,401 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: it was like onto the next, and it kind of 145 00:06:20,041 --> 00:06:22,601 Speaker 2: lost that feeling of what the purpose of it was. 146 00:06:23,401 --> 00:06:26,401 Speaker 2: Whereas with She Rises, I think it started off with 147 00:06:26,481 --> 00:06:29,081 Speaker 2: such a passion project. It still feels like that because 148 00:06:29,081 --> 00:06:32,521 Speaker 2: it's so heart led. Like when we do any project, 149 00:06:32,561 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 2: even the physical product we've got coming out, our live events, 150 00:06:35,601 --> 00:06:38,801 Speaker 2: our mini events, our retreat it's so heart led. It's like, 151 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,841 Speaker 2: how do we make impact on this? How do we 152 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,801 Speaker 2: bring connection? How do we make this more expansive, how 153 00:06:44,801 --> 00:06:47,361 Speaker 2: do we make this more fun? Any tasks that we 154 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,761 Speaker 2: have to do that we're like, oh, who don't want 155 00:06:48,761 --> 00:06:50,641 Speaker 2: to do this? How do we make this more playful. 156 00:06:50,841 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna put music on, We're going to have this 157 00:06:52,521 --> 00:06:54,001 Speaker 2: little dance, we're going to film with tiktog the I'm 158 00:06:54,001 --> 00:06:54,881 Speaker 2: gonna get stuck into this. 159 00:06:54,841 --> 00:06:55,561 Speaker 1: And get it done. 160 00:06:55,681 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: It's heart led, it's purposeful, and it's a lot of 161 00:06:58,121 --> 00:07:00,801 Speaker 2: play and fun. But we're still getting shit done and 162 00:07:00,801 --> 00:07:02,961 Speaker 2: we hit our deadlines and we're achieving goals and we're 163 00:07:02,961 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: doing all of that. So I feel like the blend 164 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 2: is just so beautiful. It feels it comes from a 165 00:07:07,641 --> 00:07:10,841 Speaker 2: different place. Yeah, Yeah, that's so beautiful it is. I 166 00:07:10,841 --> 00:07:12,481 Speaker 2: feel like it makes a whole lot of difference when 167 00:07:12,521 --> 00:07:13,521 Speaker 2: it is heart led. 168 00:07:13,721 --> 00:07:16,321 Speaker 1: Yeah. And with that other role, it was like, maybe yes, 169 00:07:16,361 --> 00:07:19,241 Speaker 1: there was a still purpose and really deep intention in this. 170 00:07:19,681 --> 00:07:21,601 Speaker 1: But I feel like this last year for you especially, 171 00:07:21,681 --> 00:07:23,841 Speaker 1: has been really about coming into what feels really good 172 00:07:23,841 --> 00:07:26,001 Speaker 1: for you and making sure that you are living a 173 00:07:26,001 --> 00:07:27,521 Speaker 1: life that you were proud of and doing the things 174 00:07:27,561 --> 00:07:29,521 Speaker 1: that you want to be doing. Whereas, like with Baseline 175 00:07:29,561 --> 00:07:31,801 Speaker 1: and running a team, that was a very masculine thing 176 00:07:31,801 --> 00:07:34,121 Speaker 1: for you, but it wasn't necessarily what you wanted to 177 00:07:34,121 --> 00:07:36,361 Speaker 1: be doing or love doing. Is like running a team. 178 00:07:36,161 --> 00:07:38,041 Speaker 2: And I wanted to grow the business and then when 179 00:07:38,041 --> 00:07:40,361 Speaker 2: I went through all the transition of my brain surgeries 180 00:07:40,361 --> 00:07:43,161 Speaker 2: and everything, I was reflecting and thinking, I'm like, for 181 00:07:43,281 --> 00:07:46,841 Speaker 2: what growing it? For what? And I couldn't answer it. Yeah, 182 00:07:47,001 --> 00:07:48,881 Speaker 2: what to get a bigger team, to get more money, 183 00:07:49,481 --> 00:07:52,081 Speaker 2: to be one of the biggest brands out there? For what? 184 00:07:52,081 --> 00:07:53,721 Speaker 2: What does that bring me? It doesn't bring me more 185 00:07:53,721 --> 00:07:56,441 Speaker 2: happiness in my home. It doesn't make my heart grow bigger. Yeah, 186 00:07:56,481 --> 00:07:58,681 Speaker 2: it made impact, but not in a way that I 187 00:07:58,761 --> 00:08:01,321 Speaker 2: knew I wanted to, or I knew that could really 188 00:08:01,361 --> 00:08:03,201 Speaker 2: impact women's lives like close are great and they make 189 00:08:03,201 --> 00:08:04,761 Speaker 2: them feel confident, And I don't regret any of it. 190 00:08:04,801 --> 00:08:07,761 Speaker 2: I love it. But it's so different to how this feels. 191 00:08:07,761 --> 00:08:12,281 Speaker 2: This feels from a really strong feminine space of leadership 192 00:08:12,321 --> 00:08:13,561 Speaker 2: and softness all in one. 193 00:08:13,841 --> 00:08:16,361 Speaker 1: And so would you say that doing things from a 194 00:08:16,401 --> 00:08:19,561 Speaker 1: place of purpose and really finding things that light you 195 00:08:19,681 --> 00:08:22,521 Speaker 1: up helps you anchor more into your feminine It. 196 00:08:22,441 --> 00:08:24,801 Speaker 2: Does, But there's strength in that feminine. It's not the 197 00:08:25,001 --> 00:08:27,441 Speaker 2: wishy washy Yeah. I don't know how to say. 198 00:08:27,481 --> 00:08:27,921 Speaker 1: It's both. 199 00:08:28,041 --> 00:08:28,561 Speaker 2: It's both. 200 00:08:28,601 --> 00:08:32,201 Speaker 1: Did you say when you are passion lead, purpose driven? Heart? 201 00:08:32,321 --> 00:08:35,561 Speaker 2: Lad, it's both energies combined and that's why it works. 202 00:08:36,401 --> 00:08:37,921 Speaker 2: That's why it works. You just hit the nail on 203 00:08:37,961 --> 00:08:40,401 Speaker 2: the head. This wouldn't work if it was all in 204 00:08:40,441 --> 00:08:42,521 Speaker 2: our feminine We weren't honoring our masculine energy because it 205 00:08:42,521 --> 00:08:43,481 Speaker 2: wouldn't get anything done. 206 00:08:43,401 --> 00:08:44,961 Speaker 1: Yet, would you just sitting around in pink track? He's 207 00:08:45,001 --> 00:08:45,361 Speaker 1: doing ithing? 208 00:08:45,361 --> 00:08:47,561 Speaker 2: Literally, And if it was all led by masculine women, 209 00:08:47,561 --> 00:08:50,721 Speaker 2: wouldn't connect and feel our purpose and our softness and 210 00:08:50,761 --> 00:08:53,001 Speaker 2: feel safe to bring in their best to your advice 211 00:08:53,041 --> 00:08:54,681 Speaker 2: and to ask us questions and to trust us to 212 00:08:54,721 --> 00:08:56,761 Speaker 2: pay three thousand dollars to come to a retreat in Bali. 213 00:08:57,201 --> 00:08:59,721 Speaker 2: That's why this works. That's why we're doing all the 214 00:08:59,721 --> 00:09:03,081 Speaker 2: things we're doing. That's why it's been so effortless. That's 215 00:09:03,081 --> 00:09:05,201 Speaker 2: why I haven't heard it worded like that. That feels really. 216 00:09:05,481 --> 00:09:05,881 Speaker 2: I love that. 217 00:09:06,041 --> 00:09:08,561 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the conversation. 218 00:09:08,641 --> 00:09:10,921 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. Don't you agree. That's why it works 219 00:09:10,961 --> 00:09:13,881 Speaker 2: because both energies are blended so goodfully, I'm lost for work. 220 00:09:13,921 --> 00:09:15,921 Speaker 2: This is an internal conversation that we probaly should have 221 00:09:15,921 --> 00:09:18,121 Speaker 2: had behind closed doors, but it's just let us Sofia. 222 00:09:18,321 --> 00:09:20,121 Speaker 1: This is what I love. I love the off the 223 00:09:20,161 --> 00:09:22,721 Speaker 1: cusp of conversations that's where you get the most raw 224 00:09:23,121 --> 00:09:25,121 Speaker 1: of what we talk about day to day. And it 225 00:09:25,241 --> 00:09:27,241 Speaker 1: is true because when you are heart led, it makes 226 00:09:27,481 --> 00:09:29,481 Speaker 1: being in your masculine easier, and it makes being in 227 00:09:29,521 --> 00:09:32,521 Speaker 1: your feminine softer. It makes you crave to be in 228 00:09:32,561 --> 00:09:35,641 Speaker 1: your feminine more. But the more that you integrate your 229 00:09:35,681 --> 00:09:39,361 Speaker 1: masculine energy, which is your structure, your responsibility, being consistent, 230 00:09:39,401 --> 00:09:42,801 Speaker 1: your discipline, showing up for yourself, a love it evil 231 00:09:42,841 --> 00:09:47,001 Speaker 1: for yourself, yes, right, creating your internal liability. You create that, 232 00:09:47,081 --> 00:09:49,361 Speaker 1: And I'm mimicking my hands right now to create like 233 00:09:49,401 --> 00:09:53,361 Speaker 1: a container. When you create that masculine wall, in that foundation, 234 00:09:53,521 --> 00:09:55,921 Speaker 1: your feminine flows within that and all you want to 235 00:09:55,921 --> 00:09:58,441 Speaker 1: do is wear little pink butterfly clips and wearing outfits 236 00:09:58,481 --> 00:10:00,761 Speaker 1: and you really feminine life. 237 00:10:01,001 --> 00:10:02,921 Speaker 2: It feels good. And isn't that the beautiful thing in 238 00:10:02,921 --> 00:10:05,161 Speaker 2: a relationship too, When there's both the masculine, femine and 239 00:10:05,201 --> 00:10:08,241 Speaker 2: polarity and both of them flow, Oh my god, that's 240 00:10:08,281 --> 00:10:10,361 Speaker 2: magic because you need both. You need both. 241 00:10:10,401 --> 00:10:11,761 Speaker 1: That's the yin and the yang energy. 242 00:10:11,921 --> 00:10:14,321 Speaker 2: And it's not saying a masculine is all in. The 243 00:10:14,441 --> 00:10:16,681 Speaker 2: masculine and feminine all and the feminine both need both 244 00:10:16,801 --> 00:10:18,921 Speaker 2: energies to be able to flow them all in together. 245 00:10:18,961 --> 00:10:20,281 Speaker 2: It's like this beautiful dance. 246 00:10:20,361 --> 00:10:24,241 Speaker 1: You know, even in relationships, a man can only meet 247 00:10:24,281 --> 00:10:26,881 Speaker 1: a feminine to the degree he's met his own feminine key, 248 00:10:27,241 --> 00:10:30,121 Speaker 1: So he can only hold your emotions, Steve right, he 249 00:10:30,161 --> 00:10:32,601 Speaker 1: can only hold your emotions to the depths that he's 250 00:10:32,601 --> 00:10:35,841 Speaker 1: held his own emotionally. And then for the woman, it's 251 00:10:36,081 --> 00:10:39,001 Speaker 1: you can only meet him intellectually to the degree that 252 00:10:39,281 --> 00:10:42,001 Speaker 1: you know you haven't met yourself intellectually, or that you 253 00:10:42,041 --> 00:10:45,201 Speaker 1: can meet yourself in your own logic, and that's the balance. 254 00:10:45,521 --> 00:10:46,281 Speaker 2: I love it. 255 00:10:46,481 --> 00:10:50,281 Speaker 1: Such a good, cool conversation. This is a really cool 256 00:10:50,321 --> 00:10:53,841 Speaker 1: conversation to have in terms of relationships because when a 257 00:10:53,921 --> 00:10:57,201 Speaker 1: woman is in her healthy masculine and it is rooted 258 00:10:57,361 --> 00:11:01,241 Speaker 1: in being able to voice boundaries, to be able to communicate, 259 00:11:01,361 --> 00:11:04,561 Speaker 1: to be able to stand up for what she believes in, 260 00:11:04,801 --> 00:11:07,881 Speaker 1: or voice behavior that she doesn't like, but does it 261 00:11:07,921 --> 00:11:10,281 Speaker 1: in a really soft way. I feel like that is 262 00:11:10,321 --> 00:11:13,721 Speaker 1: what creates the polarity in a relationship, right, because when 263 00:11:13,761 --> 00:11:15,841 Speaker 1: you are too soft in a relationship, it's so easy 264 00:11:15,841 --> 00:11:17,561 Speaker 1: for you to be walked all over. Then when you're 265 00:11:17,601 --> 00:11:20,681 Speaker 1: too hard in a relationship, then the polarity dies and 266 00:11:20,801 --> 00:11:22,961 Speaker 1: little bit connection to Yeah, because there's no room for 267 00:11:23,001 --> 00:11:25,241 Speaker 1: the man to be masculine. Yes, because you're taking on 268 00:11:25,321 --> 00:11:27,561 Speaker 1: that role. And so I just think it's a really 269 00:11:27,721 --> 00:11:30,521 Speaker 1: beautiful conversation to be able to have to learn how 270 00:11:30,561 --> 00:11:32,401 Speaker 1: to do that, and you have to be willing to 271 00:11:32,401 --> 00:11:35,001 Speaker 1: push the edges of what feels comfortable, especially as a woman. 272 00:11:35,081 --> 00:11:39,001 Speaker 1: We're so familiar and so used to tiptoeing and walking 273 00:11:39,041 --> 00:11:40,601 Speaker 1: on eggshells and being skinned. 274 00:11:40,681 --> 00:11:43,841 Speaker 2: Like everyone'm happy put everyone else for us, Please keep 275 00:11:43,881 --> 00:11:45,721 Speaker 2: the harm and be the piece maker. Yeah, Yeah, be 276 00:11:45,761 --> 00:11:48,201 Speaker 2: the peace maker. We don't want to create conflict or 277 00:11:48,201 --> 00:11:52,401 Speaker 2: to be combative or to challenge people. But I think 278 00:11:52,441 --> 00:11:54,521 Speaker 2: that's a really necessary part of the journey. Like we 279 00:11:54,681 --> 00:11:56,401 Speaker 2: have to be willing to stand in that, and that 280 00:11:56,441 --> 00:11:58,961 Speaker 2: comes from a place of self respect. It does, because 281 00:11:58,961 --> 00:12:01,481 Speaker 2: it's being strong in who you are, but doing it 282 00:12:01,521 --> 00:12:04,041 Speaker 2: in a really feminine way. That's exactly right. You're still strong, 283 00:12:04,081 --> 00:12:06,401 Speaker 2: you're not weak for how boundaries and being strong, but 284 00:12:06,401 --> 00:12:09,121 Speaker 2: you're doing it in a soft, feminine, safe way. 285 00:12:09,281 --> 00:12:12,481 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you can be strong, but you don't have 286 00:12:12,521 --> 00:12:15,321 Speaker 1: to be rude. Yes, you can be strong, but you 287 00:12:15,321 --> 00:12:18,041 Speaker 1: don't have to be disrespectful. Yeah, exactly. This is the 288 00:12:18,081 --> 00:12:19,921 Speaker 1: conversation that kind of needs to be had because I 289 00:12:19,961 --> 00:12:25,041 Speaker 1: think people correlate being strong with being combative, disrespectful, rude, 290 00:12:25,241 --> 00:12:28,681 Speaker 1: too much, too cold, selfish, all of those negatives. Yes, 291 00:12:29,041 --> 00:12:30,761 Speaker 1: when actually it's not that at all. It's just the 292 00:12:30,761 --> 00:12:33,961 Speaker 1: way that you approach the situation a having situation. 293 00:12:33,681 --> 00:12:36,481 Speaker 2: And that's done in a tone. Also your body language. 294 00:12:36,121 --> 00:12:38,801 Speaker 1: As well everything. Yeah, how kind you are, how self 295 00:12:38,841 --> 00:12:42,481 Speaker 1: you are, how respectful you are of that person moment there. Okay, 296 00:12:42,521 --> 00:12:43,961 Speaker 1: I just want to have a conversation. Can we do 297 00:12:44,001 --> 00:12:46,081 Speaker 1: this together? Yeah, as opposed to you did this and 298 00:12:46,121 --> 00:12:48,441 Speaker 1: you did that, like is different. You're going to have 299 00:12:48,481 --> 00:12:49,881 Speaker 1: a very different experience. 300 00:12:50,001 --> 00:12:52,761 Speaker 2: That's beautifully said. Something else too, that we've got written 301 00:12:52,761 --> 00:12:56,321 Speaker 2: down here, softness makes us quote unquote too emotional. We've 302 00:12:56,321 --> 00:12:58,361 Speaker 2: been taught to tough enough if you want to be 303 00:12:58,361 --> 00:13:00,441 Speaker 2: taken seriously. I think this is really true in this 304 00:13:00,521 --> 00:13:02,641 Speaker 2: day and age too, when we're trying to be CEOs 305 00:13:02,681 --> 00:13:06,001 Speaker 2: and boss babes and take lead. When we do that, 306 00:13:06,121 --> 00:13:09,241 Speaker 2: it comes at the cost of suppressing our feminine energy 307 00:13:10,001 --> 00:13:13,481 Speaker 2: and ignoring our intuition. Then we get resemful and we 308 00:13:13,481 --> 00:13:15,881 Speaker 2: don't feel happy and we don't feel fulfilled because we've 309 00:13:16,001 --> 00:13:18,161 Speaker 2: been taught that to be that certain way, we have 310 00:13:18,201 --> 00:13:21,441 Speaker 2: to like push aside what truly feels right fast. 311 00:13:21,761 --> 00:13:23,601 Speaker 1: That's so true, isn't it. It is, And it's a 312 00:13:23,641 --> 00:13:26,401 Speaker 1: really hard thing to do, being the CEO, being the hustler, 313 00:13:26,441 --> 00:13:28,281 Speaker 1: being there. But then it's like neglecting. 314 00:13:27,881 --> 00:13:30,281 Speaker 2: Rest exactly at what costs. 315 00:13:30,321 --> 00:13:32,361 Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to rest or If I rest, then 316 00:13:32,401 --> 00:13:35,361 Speaker 1: I'm lazy or I'm trying to be in the very 317 00:13:35,401 --> 00:13:37,441 Speaker 1: sea or driven energy. It's like, well, now there's no 318 00:13:37,481 --> 00:13:39,801 Speaker 1: space in that, and you completely shut that out entirely, and. 319 00:13:39,761 --> 00:13:41,441 Speaker 2: You create a story that if I rest, then I'm 320 00:13:41,441 --> 00:13:42,841 Speaker 2: not going to get everything done, so then I won't 321 00:13:42,841 --> 00:13:44,161 Speaker 2: be successful. Then I won't be able to be this 322 00:13:44,241 --> 00:13:45,481 Speaker 2: year boss, babe. 323 00:13:45,641 --> 00:13:47,801 Speaker 1: It's so true. Such a spiral, isn't it. 324 00:13:47,881 --> 00:13:50,961 Speaker 2: You're spiraling to burn out? Yeah, good to anyone. 325 00:13:50,761 --> 00:13:53,121 Speaker 1: Especially it'll come around every four weeks when your period 326 00:13:53,121 --> 00:13:56,841 Speaker 1: comes away the silent very strongly. 327 00:13:57,201 --> 00:13:58,521 Speaker 2: We literally are going to get someone on to talk 328 00:13:58,561 --> 00:14:01,441 Speaker 2: about different phase of our cycle, because holy molly, it's 329 00:14:01,761 --> 00:14:02,521 Speaker 2: the conversation. 330 00:14:02,641 --> 00:14:04,041 Speaker 1: It's so important. 331 00:14:04,721 --> 00:14:07,001 Speaker 2: Where your core out first. Probably most of you in 332 00:14:07,041 --> 00:14:09,321 Speaker 2: your feminine. But where's it showing up and is it 333 00:14:09,361 --> 00:14:11,081 Speaker 2: showing up in a positive way or a negative way? 334 00:14:11,121 --> 00:14:12,641 Speaker 2: Are you able to blend them both? Or do you 335 00:14:12,681 --> 00:14:15,241 Speaker 2: feel resistance when we say any of this, And if 336 00:14:15,281 --> 00:14:17,201 Speaker 2: you feel any resistance or any triggers and be like, 337 00:14:17,241 --> 00:14:19,241 Speaker 2: oh no, that's not right for me or whatever, like, 338 00:14:19,321 --> 00:14:21,801 Speaker 2: explore that because there's something there for you, because there's 339 00:14:21,801 --> 00:14:23,961 Speaker 2: something there for all of us when we talk about this. 340 00:14:24,121 --> 00:14:25,761 Speaker 2: I want to go home and journal on it and 341 00:14:25,801 --> 00:14:26,881 Speaker 2: see what else comes up for me. 342 00:14:27,681 --> 00:14:30,201 Speaker 1: I would love to know how in the past you 343 00:14:30,361 --> 00:14:34,201 Speaker 1: have felt when you've operated predominantly in your masculine energy 344 00:14:34,441 --> 00:14:37,001 Speaker 1: versus how you feel when you're predominantly in your feminine energy, 345 00:14:37,281 --> 00:14:39,761 Speaker 1: Like what states are you in? What kind of headspace 346 00:14:39,801 --> 00:14:41,761 Speaker 1: are you in? How do you feel when you're in 347 00:14:41,921 --> 00:14:43,521 Speaker 1: opposing energies and not both. 348 00:14:43,761 --> 00:14:46,961 Speaker 2: I definitely had a story that women that are two 349 00:14:47,041 --> 00:14:49,681 Speaker 2: in their feminine don't get anything done. Yeah, And I 350 00:14:49,761 --> 00:14:52,241 Speaker 2: was really fearful of that because I've been out of 351 00:14:52,281 --> 00:14:54,441 Speaker 2: home since I was like just on sixteen. I've worked 352 00:14:54,481 --> 00:14:56,881 Speaker 2: since I was thirteen. I've operated from a place of 353 00:14:57,401 --> 00:14:59,481 Speaker 2: the story that I needed to take care of myself 354 00:14:59,561 --> 00:15:01,321 Speaker 2: and makes it to happen. I've got great work ethic 355 00:15:01,361 --> 00:15:04,041 Speaker 2: and it served me. I wouldn't be where I am 356 00:15:04,041 --> 00:15:07,041 Speaker 2: today if I didn't have that mindset and that masculine energy. 357 00:15:07,081 --> 00:15:10,681 Speaker 2: So I really love that about me. But as I've 358 00:15:10,761 --> 00:15:14,121 Speaker 2: grown and become a mother and been through burnout stages, 359 00:15:14,201 --> 00:15:17,321 Speaker 2: I've seen that it also can be too far one 360 00:15:17,321 --> 00:15:20,521 Speaker 2: way or the other. So I've enjoyed it when I'm 361 00:15:20,561 --> 00:15:22,881 Speaker 2: in it because I've achieved so much and I set 362 00:15:22,881 --> 00:15:24,441 Speaker 2: goals and I've got them done. I got to experience 363 00:15:24,441 --> 00:15:25,801 Speaker 2: so many things, and I've been able to provide for 364 00:15:25,841 --> 00:15:28,441 Speaker 2: people and help people, and that was always really beautiful. 365 00:15:28,921 --> 00:15:31,601 Speaker 1: So would you say it stopped you from fearing that 366 00:15:31,721 --> 00:15:34,841 Speaker 1: it might make you quotations lazy? Yeah, sake, it definitely 367 00:15:35,041 --> 00:15:37,561 Speaker 1: made you fearful of stepping into your feminine energy. 368 00:15:37,281 --> 00:15:40,041 Speaker 2: Wor so so scared. And I never wanted to be 369 00:15:40,081 --> 00:15:42,921 Speaker 2: appear to be lazy or a failure. I didn't want 370 00:15:42,921 --> 00:15:45,881 Speaker 2: to rest, and I also want to rest because being 371 00:15:45,921 --> 00:15:49,201 Speaker 2: masculine and being busy and getting shit done meant I 372 00:15:49,201 --> 00:15:51,561 Speaker 2: didn't have to feel what was underneath all of it. 373 00:15:52,321 --> 00:15:55,441 Speaker 2: And I remember Megsie talking about this often over the 374 00:15:55,561 --> 00:15:58,161 Speaker 2: last five years. Of how she notices when women are 375 00:15:58,161 --> 00:16:00,161 Speaker 2: really busy that they're distracting. And I had a lot 376 00:16:00,161 --> 00:16:03,001 Speaker 2: of resistance around it, and I honestly wasn't until I 377 00:16:03,001 --> 00:16:05,761 Speaker 2: got diagnosed with my brain anergism that I still and 378 00:16:05,881 --> 00:16:09,561 Speaker 2: reflected and it hit me like a fucking tsunami. I 379 00:16:09,641 --> 00:16:12,561 Speaker 2: was like, wow, I can see how being busy served 380 00:16:12,601 --> 00:16:15,521 Speaker 2: me to distract me away from what was going on underneath. 381 00:16:16,281 --> 00:16:18,921 Speaker 2: And I got to question everything. I did question everything. 382 00:16:19,041 --> 00:16:20,841 Speaker 2: That's why my life has changed so much in the 383 00:16:20,841 --> 00:16:24,121 Speaker 2: twelve months, which is really beautiful. So yeah, I love 384 00:16:24,161 --> 00:16:27,361 Speaker 2: both energies, but I definitely don't want to operate predominantly 385 00:16:27,401 --> 00:16:29,921 Speaker 2: in one or the other. There's different times and places 386 00:16:29,921 --> 00:16:32,121 Speaker 2: that I operate from both, and I like blending both together. 387 00:16:32,241 --> 00:16:34,161 Speaker 2: Having this conversations made me realize, I think I've gotten 388 00:16:34,161 --> 00:16:36,441 Speaker 2: really good at it having both there. 389 00:16:36,601 --> 00:16:38,401 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel like I do that really well. 390 00:16:38,481 --> 00:16:41,721 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel super masculine or super feminine when 391 00:16:41,721 --> 00:16:44,521 Speaker 2: I get home. For example, we joke about it, but like, 392 00:16:45,001 --> 00:16:47,481 Speaker 2: if Steve's there, you bet your I'm too weak to 393 00:16:47,481 --> 00:16:50,441 Speaker 2: carry the groceries. When I come home from the groceries, 394 00:16:50,521 --> 00:16:52,681 Speaker 2: he straight away comes out and carries all the groceries 395 00:16:52,681 --> 00:16:55,441 Speaker 2: for me. If he's not there, you bet your I'm 396 00:16:55,521 --> 00:16:58,121 Speaker 2: up for the challenge to do one load and one 397 00:16:58,161 --> 00:16:58,681 Speaker 2: load only. 398 00:16:58,841 --> 00:17:01,161 Speaker 1: We're not coming back for a secondary for a second. Yeah, 399 00:17:01,201 --> 00:17:01,881 Speaker 1: one and done. 400 00:17:01,961 --> 00:17:04,561 Speaker 2: When he's around, I'm like a soft little baby. Ye 401 00:17:04,761 --> 00:17:06,041 Speaker 2: take fucking care of me. 402 00:17:06,281 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: He should be. 403 00:17:06,961 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 2: Even last night, we've got these two sheds out the 404 00:17:10,721 --> 00:17:14,401 Speaker 2: side of our house and it was cold. I was like, Bait, 405 00:17:14,441 --> 00:17:16,561 Speaker 2: can you go get my suitcase. He's like yeah, wow. 406 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 2: I was like, it's just really cold, and he's been 407 00:17:18,961 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: got it for me. But he's laughing, like too cold 408 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:22,321 Speaker 2: for you, baby cold? 409 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: You know he loves it. 410 00:17:23,321 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. 411 00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: He's like, let me take care of you. You know 412 00:17:25,921 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: it's so funny. I'm like that with my dad and 413 00:17:28,041 --> 00:17:31,441 Speaker 1: my dad down, I feel like I'm his little girl. Yeah, 414 00:17:31,561 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: he's around, and you know it's funny. I worked on 415 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,801 Speaker 1: site doing carpentry for five years. Yeah, I'm a qualified 416 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,441 Speaker 1: trade qualified carpenter. Yeah, and I did it for five 417 00:17:39,521 --> 00:17:41,961 Speaker 1: years working on site, and I worked for my dad. Yeah, 418 00:17:42,001 --> 00:17:44,561 Speaker 1: he knows I'm very well, capable, very capable, But I 419 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,321 Speaker 1: still I'm his little girl when he's around. 420 00:17:46,441 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love being in that and he loves taking 421 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,041 Speaker 2: care of you too, absolutely, like little things like hey, darling, 422 00:17:51,041 --> 00:17:52,801 Speaker 2: I filled your petrol up. Yeah, thank you dad. 423 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: Oh my, so nice, beautiful, just interesting. You know what? 424 00:17:56,761 --> 00:18:00,321 Speaker 1: And that comes down to feeling safe with the masculine. 425 00:17:59,801 --> 00:18:02,041 Speaker 2: Isn't it because of the moment you're not carrying shame. 426 00:18:02,201 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, the moment you feel safe with the masculine, immediately 427 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:08,561 Speaker 1: you're dropping into that feminine. Yeah, because you know consciously 428 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:12,001 Speaker 1: and unconsciously that that man has got you. Yeah. You 429 00:18:12,041 --> 00:18:13,801 Speaker 1: don't have to step up into the role because you 430 00:18:13,801 --> 00:18:17,001 Speaker 1: don't trust his leadership. Yeah, you automatically go, No, I 431 00:18:17,001 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: trust his leadership, He's gone. Yeah. 432 00:18:19,481 --> 00:18:20,921 Speaker 2: I used to have a story too. Now I don't 433 00:18:20,921 --> 00:18:22,041 Speaker 2: know why that spiked at them, but I used to 434 00:18:22,041 --> 00:18:25,481 Speaker 2: have a story too that if I was asking, even 435 00:18:25,481 --> 00:18:27,921 Speaker 2: Steve were like any man to do something, I then 436 00:18:28,001 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: created a story that I was a failure, that I 437 00:18:29,481 --> 00:18:32,561 Speaker 2: couldn't do it. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, where do you think 438 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,561 Speaker 2: that came from? I think just from having to learn 439 00:18:35,561 --> 00:18:38,441 Speaker 2: how to do things for myself. Yeah, not ever relying 440 00:18:38,521 --> 00:18:41,561 Speaker 2: on a man, because I'd never had a safe masculine 441 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 2: growing up. So yeah, leaving home so early and needing 442 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:46,241 Speaker 2: tovent for myself. 443 00:18:46,241 --> 00:18:46,801 Speaker 1: I suppose. 444 00:18:47,041 --> 00:18:49,161 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just felt like if I couldn't do it 445 00:18:49,201 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: and I needed a man, that I was weak. I 446 00:18:51,761 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: wanted to know that I could always take care of myself. 447 00:18:54,321 --> 00:18:56,281 Speaker 2: But it's like now I know I can, but I 448 00:18:56,281 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: don't want to. 449 00:18:56,961 --> 00:18:58,001 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want you. 450 00:18:57,961 --> 00:18:58,601 Speaker 2: To take care of it. 451 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,401 Speaker 1: It's interesting I had the opposite thing so I experienced. 452 00:19:02,721 --> 00:19:04,801 Speaker 1: Like my dad, He's very much been there for me, 453 00:19:05,241 --> 00:19:07,521 Speaker 1: yes throughout, like growing up and stuff like that, but 454 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: I did create a belief that I couldn't do anything 455 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,321 Speaker 1: without my dad, so I had to Yeah. So it's 456 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: like I had to learn one how to get rid 457 00:19:17,201 --> 00:19:18,801 Speaker 1: of that. But anytime I tried to do something, I'd 458 00:19:18,801 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: be like, oh see, I can't do it. And then 459 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:21,561 Speaker 1: I'd be like, Dad, I need help. Yeah you know, 460 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: I mean coming in and help you, come in and 461 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: help out. But he would always be my savior, and 462 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,801 Speaker 1: for as long as I had that savior, I never 463 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: learned how to do anything on my own. And it 464 00:19:29,681 --> 00:19:32,721 Speaker 1: wasn't until I started my own business did I have 465 00:19:32,801 --> 00:19:34,721 Speaker 1: to learn how to figure it out on my own. 466 00:19:34,721 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: And it's not that he didn't support me through it. 467 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: He just wasn't coming in saving me when it a 468 00:19:39,241 --> 00:19:41,841 Speaker 1: shit got really hard, you know, So I think that 469 00:19:41,921 --> 00:19:44,321 Speaker 1: was something I had to unlearn, that belief of like, 470 00:19:44,521 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm not capable unless he helps me, because I can't 471 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,241 Speaker 1: do it on my own. And then when you build 472 00:19:49,241 --> 00:19:50,801 Speaker 1: that belief that you can do it on your own, 473 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: life changes because you can be supported, but you can 474 00:19:53,561 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: also support yourself too. That's a really important thing I 475 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: think every woman needs to learn. 476 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's even little things around the house, like you know, 477 00:20:00,521 --> 00:20:01,521 Speaker 2: I know a lot of women are like I have 478 00:20:01,561 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: to clean up after my partner data. They're not capable. 479 00:20:04,321 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: They are ca They're very capable, but like I like 480 00:20:07,441 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: to take care of my men in that way, Like 481 00:20:09,441 --> 00:20:12,241 Speaker 2: I like to do those little things. It feels feminine 482 00:20:12,281 --> 00:20:15,161 Speaker 2: to nurture and to be the caretaker and to help 483 00:20:15,241 --> 00:20:17,761 Speaker 2: him relax after a hard day. They're very capable. 484 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,521 Speaker 1: And you know what as well, even with those things, 485 00:20:19,521 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: it's like that might feel really good for you, but 486 00:20:21,241 --> 00:20:22,761 Speaker 1: for another woman that might feel like, oh, I don't 487 00:20:22,761 --> 00:20:24,081 Speaker 1: really want to do that, true, you know what I mean. 488 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,241 Speaker 2: So it's like that's. 489 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,801 Speaker 1: Dependent on each woman and how. 490 00:20:26,681 --> 00:20:28,081 Speaker 2: You've relationship dynamic. 491 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, how you feel good nurturing. Yes, and it's just 492 00:20:30,721 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: getting to know what that looks like for you, so 493 00:20:32,721 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: good or bad or wrong. If it doesn't feel good 494 00:20:34,761 --> 00:20:36,121 Speaker 1: for it, doesn't feel good for you. But if it does, 495 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,921 Speaker 1: do that, explore what that looks like for you. 496 00:20:39,201 --> 00:20:39,961 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool. 497 00:20:40,001 --> 00:20:40,921 Speaker 1: I love this conversation. 498 00:20:41,041 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 2: Me too. It's so fun. Let's do a little role play. 499 00:20:44,521 --> 00:20:47,801 Speaker 2: Oh oh, I feel like you're really good at this. 500 00:20:47,921 --> 00:20:51,521 Speaker 2: I'm scared now if someone comes to you and ask 501 00:20:51,681 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 2: you to do something that you really don't want to do, 502 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: could you give an example of what a healthy feminine 503 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,001 Speaker 2: would say? And maybe not unhealthy, but if feminine that's 504 00:21:02,001 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: not anchored in who she is and is scared to 505 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 2: ruffle feathers or say no, can you give examples of 506 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,281 Speaker 2: both how you'd reply, hay Tis, I'm moving house this weekend. 507 00:21:10,441 --> 00:21:11,801 Speaker 2: Can you come help me for a few hours to 508 00:21:11,801 --> 00:21:14,001 Speaker 2: packle my house up? Like I just yeah, it's gonna 509 00:21:14,001 --> 00:21:15,041 Speaker 2: be a big day. Can you come help me? 510 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: Honestly, the first thing, without actually thinking, the first thing 511 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:20,001 Speaker 1: that came to my mind would be the unintegrated feminine 512 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,041 Speaker 1: would probably be either say yes and be super passive aggressive. 513 00:21:24,481 --> 00:21:26,641 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so it'd be like oh, I'll say yes 514 00:21:26,681 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: and be resempful. 515 00:21:27,561 --> 00:21:30,001 Speaker 1: Yeah theah okay, So like they would probably say yes 516 00:21:30,001 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: and do the people pleasing thing. You would know about it. 517 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: You would know that they're not happy about it. 518 00:21:34,041 --> 00:21:36,281 Speaker 2: So give me an example, the tone, the energy, the words, 519 00:21:36,281 --> 00:21:38,561 Speaker 2: what would that look like, just so women can like 520 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,481 Speaker 2: they're listening, they can look out for that next time 521 00:21:40,681 --> 00:21:42,321 Speaker 2: and see if they do that and behave like that. 522 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:44,561 Speaker 1: It would probably be like huffing and puffing like oh 523 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: yeah when yeah, you know, like how long is it 524 00:21:47,481 --> 00:21:47,921 Speaker 1: going to take? 525 00:21:48,441 --> 00:21:48,761 Speaker 2: Yes? 526 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: Is it going to take long? I've got you to do, 527 00:21:51,281 --> 00:21:53,481 Speaker 1: I've got things to do, like I don't know, Yeah, 528 00:21:53,481 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: of course we will help you. Yeah, it's fine, yes, okay. 529 00:21:57,241 --> 00:22:00,281 Speaker 1: It's very passive, aggressive and very does the energy behind 530 00:22:00,321 --> 00:22:01,761 Speaker 1: me saying yes, but you know that don't want to 531 00:22:01,761 --> 00:22:03,521 Speaker 1: do it. And then what will lead up after that 532 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,201 Speaker 1: is probably a lot of punishment, okay, of like, oh, 533 00:22:06,321 --> 00:22:07,801 Speaker 1: in the huffing and puffing and you'll. 534 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 2: Not for you, I really didn't want to do it, 535 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 2: that's right, okay. 536 00:22:10,201 --> 00:22:12,481 Speaker 1: Whereas like somebody who I believe was in their feminine, 537 00:22:12,721 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: who was strong in their boundaries, would probably be like, 538 00:22:15,201 --> 00:22:16,761 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so excited that you're going to 539 00:22:16,761 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: be moving. That's amazing. I don't think I'm going to 540 00:22:18,961 --> 00:22:20,481 Speaker 1: be able to help you in this because I have 541 00:22:20,721 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: X y Z. However, what I can do is, you know, 542 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: I might pop in in the afternoon. I'll bring you 543 00:22:24,721 --> 00:22:25,201 Speaker 1: all lunch. 544 00:22:25,681 --> 00:22:26,041 Speaker 2: Yes. 545 00:22:26,241 --> 00:22:29,561 Speaker 1: And the beautiful thing about that is, with boundaries, it's 546 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,201 Speaker 1: a lot about feeling what feels good for you. So yes, 547 00:22:33,241 --> 00:22:35,681 Speaker 1: it's letting them know in a really soft and gentle way, 548 00:22:35,761 --> 00:22:37,961 Speaker 1: I'm unable to help you with this. But then it's 549 00:22:38,041 --> 00:22:40,041 Speaker 1: meeting them in the middle and going, but you know what, 550 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,441 Speaker 1: this time I can do. So it's like you might 551 00:22:42,441 --> 00:22:44,641 Speaker 1: not be able to help them move, but that night 552 00:22:44,681 --> 00:22:46,481 Speaker 1: you might go when you buy them a housewarming gift. 553 00:22:46,561 --> 00:22:48,321 Speaker 2: Yes, so they still feel loved and taken care of. 554 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:50,601 Speaker 2: You feel good, You've honored yourself, You're still caring for them. 555 00:22:51,041 --> 00:22:52,481 Speaker 2: It's like the beautiful lend that's right. 556 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,961 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's all I had off the time. 557 00:22:54,961 --> 00:22:58,521 Speaker 2: No, that's perfect. Okay, cool, that's perfect. I love that. Alrighty. Well, 558 00:22:58,561 --> 00:23:00,801 Speaker 2: we hope you guys enjoyed this conversation. I really love 559 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,241 Speaker 2: talking about masculine femin energy. I'd actually love to get 560 00:23:03,281 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: like a female expert on this love. Yeah, a female expert, 561 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: maybe a male expert to hear the different perspectives because 562 00:23:09,681 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: it's a really important conversation. And even though I've done 563 00:23:12,761 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 2: a lot of learnings around this and you've done a lot, 564 00:23:14,681 --> 00:23:17,001 Speaker 2: like I still learn a lot from you. There's always 565 00:23:17,001 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: more ways to learn or different perspectives or examples that 566 00:23:19,721 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: people can give that we can expand on this. 567 00:23:22,321 --> 00:23:24,481 Speaker 1: I would love to learn more, and I would love 568 00:23:24,521 --> 00:23:26,681 Speaker 1: to have a male and a female because I think 569 00:23:26,761 --> 00:23:30,281 Speaker 1: having a female perspective and a male perspective is very important. Yeah, 570 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,401 Speaker 1: so we should do that. 571 00:23:31,561 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: But if anyone knows anyone that specializes in this, this 572 00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,001 Speaker 2: is their niche just to what they talk about, maybe 573 00:23:36,041 --> 00:23:37,761 Speaker 2: they coach people in it, let us know. Pop it 574 00:23:37,761 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 2: into our she Riser's Facebook forum and we'd love to 575 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 2: get the one as guests. 576 00:23:41,201 --> 00:23:43,281 Speaker 1: Also, if you have anything that you need a little 577 00:23:43,281 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: bit of Best the Advice on, or you have a 578 00:23:45,001 --> 00:23:47,801 Speaker 1: question in regards to this episode, pop it into the 579 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: submissions for Best the Advice, Because if you're struggling right now, 580 00:23:51,681 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: you're struggling to balance the masculine and feminine energies, or 581 00:23:54,201 --> 00:23:56,481 Speaker 1: you're feeling like, oh, I'm too hard or I'm too 582 00:23:56,561 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: soft and I need a little bit of guidance. Yeah, 583 00:23:58,441 --> 00:24:00,001 Speaker 1: pop it in there and we'll be happy to answer 584 00:24:00,001 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: your questions and then we can expand on this conversation. 585 00:24:01,961 --> 00:24:04,041 Speaker 2: Yeah, that link will be in the description box below. 586 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: Otherwise once again in our Facebook forum, or you can 587 00:24:06,241 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 2: pop them do our dams as well. But this is 588 00:24:07,921 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: something you also help a lot of your clients with, right, Yeah, 589 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,561 Speaker 2: it's a common thing that kind of comes in. Can 590 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: you talk about how you coach people through this? 591 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so predominantly around relationships, So that's kind of the 592 00:24:17,441 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: strong suit, right, because it really shows up in our 593 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,761 Speaker 1: intimate relationships. And so obviously it's dependent on the situation 594 00:24:22,921 --> 00:24:24,561 Speaker 1: or what they're going through. But I have a lot 595 00:24:24,561 --> 00:24:27,161 Speaker 1: of women come to me who really find themselves feeling 596 00:24:27,201 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: quite disconnected from their partners and they don't really know 597 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: what's happening in the relationship. So they're going, you know, 598 00:24:32,521 --> 00:24:35,041 Speaker 1: he's doing this, and they're super focused on the man's 599 00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: behavior but not really aware of how they're contributing to it. 600 00:24:39,201 --> 00:24:41,041 Speaker 1: And so what I get my clients to focus on 601 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:43,681 Speaker 1: is to really go within instead of always worrying about 602 00:24:43,681 --> 00:24:46,641 Speaker 1: what the man is doing, going okay, what can I control? 603 00:24:46,761 --> 00:24:48,681 Speaker 1: And we help them go within and go, okay, let's 604 00:24:48,681 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: audit all of your behavior, the way that you show up, 605 00:24:51,681 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: how you speak to them, how you communicate, how you 606 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,041 Speaker 1: feel in your own body, and how connected you are 607 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: your pleasure. And then we go, okay, let's revamp this, 608 00:25:00,241 --> 00:25:04,121 Speaker 1: and so we reinvent them from inside out and then 609 00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:07,121 Speaker 1: it only comes out tenfold in the relationship. And I've 610 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: had a client of mine who's been with her partner 611 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,481 Speaker 1: for fourteen years and we work together for a couple 612 00:25:11,481 --> 00:25:15,761 Speaker 1: of years, and she has completely transformed her communication, not 613 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: only in her parenting skills with her children, but with 614 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: her partner. She's like, we are the best that we 615 00:25:21,001 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: have ever been. And it's so powerful because she's like, 616 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,361 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known how to do this without these 617 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,721 Speaker 1: new communication tools, or without softening myself and not being 618 00:25:28,721 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: in my head all the time. And that's why this 619 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: work is so powerful. That's awesome. 620 00:25:32,241 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: Do you find that kind of work someone needs to 621 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: work with you for a couple of years, because I 622 00:25:36,441 --> 00:25:38,361 Speaker 2: know that, like you, lately, you've had some clients You've 623 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,041 Speaker 2: got like a new package deal at the point where 624 00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 2: you have a phone call with them and then you 625 00:25:42,001 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: work with them through Voxer, which is like a voice 626 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: message kind of app. Do you find to work on 627 00:25:46,281 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: this stuff? It can be something that is resolved and 628 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,721 Speaker 2: you can get a lot of results in a week. 629 00:25:50,761 --> 00:25:52,281 Speaker 2: Or is this more of a long term container? 630 00:25:52,441 --> 00:25:54,721 Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, it depends. So the clients of mine who 631 00:25:54,721 --> 00:25:56,481 Speaker 1: have stayed with me for years are more because they 632 00:25:56,561 --> 00:25:58,961 Speaker 1: love the work. They're like, oh my god, I've grown 633 00:25:59,001 --> 00:26:01,681 Speaker 1: growth seekers. They're growth seekers right, They're like, oh my god, 634 00:26:01,681 --> 00:26:03,321 Speaker 1: I want to be plugged into this. I want bro 635 00:26:03,481 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: I want to be the best version of myself. And 636 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: then they stay and stay and stay. It's a conscious choice. 637 00:26:08,201 --> 00:26:10,841 Speaker 1: You don't need years for this stuff to work. And 638 00:26:10,961 --> 00:26:12,601 Speaker 1: like what you were mentioning, I do have a new 639 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: offer where we can just do one call and then 640 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: you get five days of boxer support as well. And 641 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: it's basically a deep dive on one specific problem within 642 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,281 Speaker 1: your self worth or your relationship and how that might 643 00:26:24,281 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: be showing up in your relationship. So this is like 644 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,561 Speaker 1: very an isolated problem for us to go cool, let's 645 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: work through this together. You get support after that and 646 00:26:32,241 --> 00:26:34,561 Speaker 1: I'll help you integrate it, and then you get to 647 00:26:34,561 --> 00:26:36,681 Speaker 1: go on and like continue implementing that in your life. 648 00:26:36,721 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 2: I just love that because I had a friend of 649 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: a friend of mine that I put onto you because 650 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,321 Speaker 2: she'd had this massive blow up with her partner about 651 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:46,281 Speaker 2: this specific topic that kept coming up in their relationship, 652 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:48,921 Speaker 2: and she booked that with you. Had the one call, 653 00:26:48,961 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: so you got to know everything about the situation. Then 654 00:26:50,921 --> 00:26:53,241 Speaker 2: for the next five days, she was so plugged into 655 00:26:53,241 --> 00:26:55,161 Speaker 2: you and like worked through something that she had struggled 656 00:26:55,201 --> 00:26:57,041 Speaker 2: for the last ten years in her relationship. And I 657 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,561 Speaker 2: was like, remember, you're telling me about it, and I 658 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: knew about it because it was my friend and you're 659 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: my friend, so it was okay to talk about. But 660 00:27:03,041 --> 00:27:04,841 Speaker 2: I was like, wow, it blows my mind how much 661 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: can be done in one week of full plug in 662 00:27:07,441 --> 00:27:10,001 Speaker 2: and support and focusing on your own stuff. And it 663 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,481 Speaker 2: was really powerful to watch her transform and like that's 664 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 2: changed her whole relationship just with a week of work. 665 00:27:15,001 --> 00:27:17,681 Speaker 1: He'd be really surprised, or how much you can grow 666 00:27:17,761 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: and overcome within a short period of time. It's almost 667 00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: this belief when it comes to personal development work that 668 00:27:22,961 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: it has to be this long slow burn. It's not 669 00:27:25,321 --> 00:27:27,441 Speaker 1: that you just either you don't have the right information, 670 00:27:27,681 --> 00:27:30,641 Speaker 1: you're not looking at the correct problem for what you're 671 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: looking for, you don't understand how to resolve it. So 672 00:27:33,521 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: when you don't know those three things, it makes it 673 00:27:35,201 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: really hard to actually achieve it and overcome it. But 674 00:27:37,201 --> 00:27:40,521 Speaker 1: you can see growth and change within yourself how you 675 00:27:40,521 --> 00:27:42,321 Speaker 1: show up and how you interact with your partner or 676 00:27:42,681 --> 00:27:45,921 Speaker 1: your intimate relationships really quickly when you know the right tools. 677 00:27:46,001 --> 00:27:47,561 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're getting asked the right question, You've got 678 00:27:47,561 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: the right support. Right girlfriends, we talk about things all 679 00:27:50,801 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: day every day. We're constantly growing and learning together. But 680 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,041 Speaker 2: if you don't have that around, it's so cool that 681 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,241 Speaker 2: you offer something like that. So if anyone wanted to 682 00:27:57,281 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 2: book that with you or getting more information, did they 683 00:27:59,241 --> 00:28:00,081 Speaker 2: just go to your Instagram. 684 00:28:00,201 --> 00:28:01,761 Speaker 1: Yeah, it just head to my Instagram and it'll be 685 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,281 Speaker 1: my link in my bio. You can focus session in there. 686 00:28:04,321 --> 00:28:06,921 Speaker 1: You'll see it options there. You just head to Tiana 687 00:28:06,921 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: Bundalo which is t I j A n A b 688 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 1: U n d A l O, and it'll be the 689 00:28:12,441 --> 00:28:14,281 Speaker 1: link in my bio. It's so cool. Or if you 690 00:28:14,281 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: feel like you don't know which one you want to 691 00:28:16,001 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: choose and you need a little support on how to 692 00:28:17,921 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: choose which option will be best for you can just 693 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,521 Speaker 1: send me a dam when we can chat about it. 694 00:28:21,521 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 2: It's so cool, so many cool options, and trust me, 695 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: it's very good having a best his life cash. I 696 00:28:26,921 --> 00:28:28,481 Speaker 2: get plugged into this all the time, but I want 697 00:28:28,521 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 2: to talk about that because even at out she Rises DMS, 698 00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: there's so many questions coming through and women that don't 699 00:28:34,201 --> 00:28:36,521 Speaker 2: have support if in our best you advice, like they're 700 00:28:36,561 --> 00:28:39,001 Speaker 2: stuck in these cycles with their relationships, and it's like 701 00:28:39,601 --> 00:28:41,441 Speaker 2: there is support for that, there is help for that, 702 00:28:41,681 --> 00:28:43,401 Speaker 2: and it's just really cool. So thank you for your 703 00:28:43,441 --> 00:28:45,121 Speaker 2: work because it only helps me, but I know it 704 00:28:45,121 --> 00:28:46,321 Speaker 2: helps so many other women as well. 705 00:28:46,761 --> 00:28:50,481 Speaker 1: So powerful. Yeah, we'll see you on the next episode. 706 00:28:50,841 --> 00:28:58,161 Speaker 1: By