Speaker 1: Go on turner off three sixty rugby league from every angle,
Speaker 1: the DC drama continues to unravel right before our eyes.
Speaker 1: Tonight will unpack what's quickly become one of the most
Speaker 1: intriguing rugby league stories in recent memory. First, let's take
Speaker 1: a look at how the last twenty four hours unfolding
Speaker 1: A bit of talk about DCE and his future here
Speaker 1: on the Northern Beaches Daily. Cherry Evans, at thirty six
Speaker 1: years of age, basically achieved everything in the game. He
Speaker 1: wants one more Premiership. Ring breaking news, DC tells Manly
Speaker 1: he's leaving the club at season's end. So this is
Speaker 1: this is big.
Speaker 2: As my career comes to an end, I want it
Speaker 2: to take my time, whether that's retiring or playing on
Speaker 2: and by cutting ties with Manley this year and I
Speaker 2: felt like that was the best chance for me to
Speaker 2: have freedom throughout the year to take one time to choose.
Speaker 3: Danty did speak to us in December he was going
Speaker 3: to either retire go over seas.
Speaker 2: You know, mainly said that they weren't going to offer
Speaker 2: anything unless another club offered anything. Those offers didn't come
Speaker 2: through from the other clubs, so mainly didn't need to
Speaker 2: offer anything, which was fine.
Speaker 1: It was live on air as we speak right now
Speaker 1: breaking news. Mester Off and Penn have just contacted Fox
Speaker 1: League and so they're going to counter this with a
Speaker 1: two year offer. Said, this is far from over by
Speaker 1: the sounds.
Speaker 3: We just want to reiterate the point that the manly
Speaker 3: ring of siegals this morning point to rot and Dale
Speaker 3: Cherry Evans for the twenty six twenty seven season.
Speaker 2: Was there an offer on the table of late not
Speaker 2: until ANRL through sixty tonight.
Speaker 3: We made an offer yesterday. It wasn't a knee jerk reaction.
Speaker 3: We've been speaking about that.
Speaker 1: For a while. Would you accept that respectfully?
Speaker 2: No, because, as I said, I've been sleeping on this
Speaker 2: decision since December.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no animosity there. There's no animosity between Day and
Speaker 1: the clubs and Dramni Colver main to me, it's not
Speaker 1: only just says agitating. He suggests that something else going
Speaker 1: something suggests something else is going on here.
Speaker 3: There is no problem with Dalian the club. There's no
Speaker 3: problem with Dailian me personally. There's no problem with Daily
Speaker 3: in the coach and this shouldn't have exploded into the
Speaker 3: story it has. I reckon they could have put this
Speaker 3: away some time ago.
Speaker 1: He reiterated that would be his last year at Manly.
Speaker 1: We respected that. I mean, Dailey said last night I
Speaker 1: was in the press conference. He said, there's no animosity
Speaker 1: with the Manly club. There's no issues with the Manly club.
Speaker 1: There no real stand but this would suggest there is animoster.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's still certain around what he wants
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know if he wants to retire.
Speaker 3: He's got a coaching offer from us to coach beyond that,
Speaker 3: but it's his decision.
Speaker 1: Cherry bombshell the biggest story in rugby league in a
Speaker 1: very very long time. Let's bring the journos in, poor
Speaker 1: Crawley and Dean Bulldog Richie. I'll start with this. Were
Speaker 1: Manly blindsided by DC's bombshell announcement? Gordy Well, I think
Speaker 1: that they were to have your star player, the guy
Speaker 1: that's been there for ten years, their last premiership halfback,
Speaker 1: go on a show and announce that this is going
Speaker 1: to be his last year and he's going to leave
Speaker 1: the club. Hen's why they rang into the show.
Speaker 4: How could you be blindsided from your star player, your
Speaker 4: longest serving club player, your captain who has been debating
Speaker 4: whether to play on or not since last year, and
Speaker 4: you get blindsided on a day when he's going on
Speaker 4: a TV show. I just don't see how they've stuffed
Speaker 4: this up, Gordon. They had a hand full time he's
Speaker 4: in their backyard. He's one of the top three, if
Speaker 4: not four, top playmakers in the game. Mestrov says it
Speaker 4: wasn't a knee jerk reaction. He hasn't been low balled. Yes,
Speaker 4: he has that offer yesterday. That's a low ball offer
Speaker 4: for a top three or four half back in the
Speaker 4: game to be offered seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 4: a year.
Speaker 1: I don't care how old he is. He should have
Speaker 1: been offered it at least a million dollars.
Speaker 5: So do we believe that they were going to wait
Speaker 5: until round six because we've heard Look, i'll.
Speaker 1: Tell you what happened. In December.
Speaker 6: They open up very preliminary talks, which was going to
Speaker 6: be a one year contract with a two year club
Speaker 6: option second year. Cherry then said to them, look, I'm
Speaker 6: not sure whether I want to play anymore and I
Speaker 6: might move overseas. Manley then said we'll respect that and
Speaker 6: we'll back off, which they did. In the meantime, there
Speaker 6: was some very informal dialogue going on, and in that dialogue,
Speaker 6: Gordon your spot on, there was an unwritten agreement that
Speaker 6: they would see how Cherry was after round six, how
Speaker 6: was his body holding up mentally, and how was his
Speaker 6: form bingo after round three Manly's waiting for round six.
Speaker 6: Cherry comes out last night on national television and says
Speaker 6: I am quitting the club. It didn't tell Tony Mestroff
Speaker 6: and he didn't tell Scott Penn.
Speaker 1: So that's how they were blinded. So why that's the
Speaker 1: next question, isn't it. Why?
Speaker 4: Like again, you've got to look at the management here, dog,
Speaker 4: because it's there job to be on board with their
Speaker 4: best player. If you're dealing with a bloke with a
Speaker 4: profile like Jerry Evans and his quality of play, what
Speaker 4: he brings to your club, you've got to know and
Speaker 4: you've got to find a way to get it.
Speaker 1: But what I find interesting and a little bit strange
Speaker 1: and putting myself in DC issues and even my management
Speaker 1: cap on for a little bit. He was free to
Speaker 1: negotiate November one, right of last year. By December he
Speaker 1: told them that he was moving on right so in
Speaker 1: that month he gave them a month time to negotiate
Speaker 1: a deal, which apparently was only a one year deal,
Speaker 1: but he didn't give them much more than a month
Speaker 1: to come up with a two year, three year whatever
Speaker 1: it may be, which suggests to me something he's going
Speaker 1: on there. If he wanted to stay there, he could
Speaker 1: have taken even a few more months now to come
Speaker 1: up with an agreement and a deal that would have
Speaker 1: suited both him and the club. So it tells me
Speaker 1: that if he was so quick to make a call
Speaker 1: to move on from Marly, he wanted to go. He
Speaker 1: wanted to go last year, and there's got to be
Speaker 1: a reason for it. Reason it is.
Speaker 6: I have no doubt that he's got another club and
Speaker 6: they're paying him top dollar money.
Speaker 1: Good luck to him. That's why he's going. Mainly, no
Speaker 1: what they're not stupid.
Speaker 6: They fear that he is walking out the door because
Speaker 6: he's got big money elsewhere, and I reckon that'd be
Speaker 6: announce for the next three to four To.
Speaker 1: Defend DC though in saying what I did, I spoke
Speaker 1: to a lot of officials today at a few clubs,
Speaker 1: some heavy hitters who have spoken to who had spoken
Speaker 1: to hierarchy at Manly throughout last year, and apparently they
Speaker 1: were shopping him around and suggesting they were not going
Speaker 1: to resign him during last season, which therefore has probably
Speaker 1: got the ears pricked on a number of teams that
Speaker 1: have circled over the last few months, and there could
Speaker 1: be some stuff going on behind closed doors. But the
Speaker 1: suggestion to me is DC knowing I don't know him
Speaker 1: that well, but I know a lot of people that
Speaker 1: are really close to him. He's big on principles, is
Speaker 1: big on values, and maybe none of this just sat
Speaker 1: well with him the queen, and he made the call
Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to stick.
Speaker 4: Around made the queen he said last night where he
Speaker 4: said there hadn't been an offer and the club had
Speaker 4: said to him, if you do get an offer, bring
Speaker 4: it back to us, Like, I don't know what you think,
Speaker 4: but I would see that as disrespectful taking someone for granted,
Speaker 4: because I should. But regardless of that, he is talking
Speaker 4: about playing they haven't done their job, Bulldog.
Speaker 1: They had an opportunity.
Speaker 4: Why would he bring that quote out if it wasn't
Speaker 4: something that had played on his mind, played on his mind.
Speaker 1: It's cost him one of the best players in the cold.
Speaker 5: He said he's not sure whether he wants to play,
Speaker 5: on whether he's going to retire.
Speaker 1: I don't believe a where that you're telling me that
Speaker 1: he's considering retirement or going to super League. That's bullshit.
Speaker 1: That that is, that's garbage. He's playing on saying, well,
Speaker 1: this is the thing. It's either a play. Can you
Speaker 1: do you honestly think he's going to retire a playing
Speaker 1: super League next year?
Speaker 5: Not the way he's playing. Is that with the Dylan
Speaker 5: Brown deal that's just gone. That is never going to happen.
Speaker 4: But you're talking out of it. If he was thinking
Speaker 4: that the way he's been no.
Speaker 1: Because sometimes you give him the respect.
Speaker 5: So when he's played ten years and he's played the
Speaker 5: way he is and he said that's talking round six,
Speaker 5: you give him the respect, hey mate, And if there's
Speaker 5: a deal that comes along the way, bring it to us.
Speaker 6: I think Daily wanted to manage the narrative here and
Speaker 6: he's got in early.
Speaker 1: But that's irritated manly take it as read. They're not happy.
Speaker 6: Tony Mestrop's a very good CEO. I was there at
Speaker 6: the conference today and he's saying what he has to say.
Speaker 6: Because he's the front man of that. Clubs take it
Speaker 6: as red.
Speaker 5: They are filthy, so there must be animosity if he
Speaker 5: doesn't and he doesn't tell him, there's no joint press conference.
Speaker 6: There's also been amosity on both sides. Gordy, this is
Speaker 6: Manly's window to win a premiership. Cherry's last thing he
Speaker 6: wants to do is win another premiership.
Speaker 1: So he's got two years in front of him. It's
Speaker 1: his home club. He can retire a one club legend.
Speaker 1: It's all there at Manley. He says, I don't want
Speaker 1: to play that. Well, that's what's my point. There's got
Speaker 1: to be something wrong there. Because he's got a strong
Speaker 1: team where where he can win a premiership. He wants
Speaker 1: to finish on a high note, which is why he'll
Speaker 1: probably consider one of the premier clubs. That these are
Speaker 1: seven at the moment that can take them to premiership contention.
Speaker 1: Now I want to come to you with this cruel.
Speaker 1: He mentioned that the club said sorry that they'd only
Speaker 1: offer him a deal if a rival club did. What
Speaker 1: do you think of that? That's what I spoke about
Speaker 1: a minute ago.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you could not see that as
Speaker 4: disrespectful for everything that he's put in for that club
Speaker 4: over what fourteen fifteen years to have that put to
Speaker 4: you if you get another Well, if that was the case,
Speaker 4: and what he's done, I actually think what he's done
Speaker 4: has gone away and it's shown great self belief and
Speaker 4: conviction in his own ability that he's gone out and
Speaker 4: said okay, if that was the case and they weren't
Speaker 4: going to offer him a contract until another club, come,
Speaker 4: well he's gone. You know what, I'll go and find
Speaker 4: something and instead of going back to Manly, I'll go
Speaker 4: forward and I'll show you what I can do. And
Speaker 4: if that's what he's done, it's a great show of dignity.
Speaker 4: When the media started to push and prod a bit
Speaker 4: about Cherry's future, Manley then said, you know what, I
Speaker 4: think he's going to play. On on Monday at midday,
Speaker 4: Peter Gentle, the Manly recruitment guru, picked up the phone.
Speaker 6: And rang dce's agent Joe Weeby. That's when the conversation started.
Speaker 6: Nine hours later, Cherry Evans says, I'm not playing for Manley.
Speaker 6: It was deemed to be a knee jerk reaction for Manley,
Speaker 6: but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Manly. On the phone that day, So the offer was
Speaker 1: table at midday yesterday, because that's what Mainly is saying.
Speaker 1: They put an offer to his agent at twelve o'clock
Speaker 1: I think it was around yesterday, and then later that
Speaker 1: evening he's on another TV station saying that he didn't
Speaker 1: receive that or he was unaware of it until he
Speaker 1: had watched this show and seeing that Mainly had put
Speaker 1: a two year deal to him.
Speaker 6: Well, Manly is telling me that they, as I said,
Speaker 6: sent Peter Jennle to meet Joe Weeby. So I have
Speaker 6: no reason to why they would tell us a fib
Speaker 6: but it was extra ordinary the fact.
Speaker 1: That Daily tell the truth because I don't know who's
Speaker 1: telling the truth break I wish I could tell you.
Speaker 6: But it wasn't a knee jerk reactionally because many were
Speaker 6: onto it at midday that day. It shows you the
Speaker 6: separation within again, despite the fact that they say there's
Speaker 6: no animosity, there has to be and the concern now
Speaker 6: will be what will it do to the rest of
Speaker 6: their season?
Speaker 1: Do you reckon they will blow the season up?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know what it's got the possibility if
Speaker 4: they can't or it could galvanize the players.
Speaker 1: But it's going to.
Speaker 4: Create if he can sell it to them someone, whether
Speaker 4: it be the player or the management.
Speaker 5: If he can sell it to the players that I'm
Speaker 5: going to retire. I've had a great time here and
Speaker 5: I think I've got twenty more games in me. I
Speaker 5: reckon they will galvanize. You'll see it in the players.
Speaker 5: If he's going to another club.
Speaker 1: I've seen no reason why it wouldn't galvanize them. He's
Speaker 1: been a club legend for a long time. He seems
Speaker 1: to have a great relationship with the players that he
Speaker 1: plays with. They've had a really fantastic start to the year. Taker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no one likes hemates leaving, and I suppose Tom will
Speaker 1: tell them right, but they all want to win, and
Speaker 1: now he's leaving. This is their last chance because they've
Speaker 1: got no one that We'll get to this maybe later,
Speaker 1: but they've got no one really to replace him. They're
Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna shuffle the decks a little bit. I said,
Speaker 1: we'll get to that, but this is you talk about
Speaker 1: Premiership windows, it is now, it is this year, and
Speaker 1: it is with him leaving.
Speaker 4: What we do know about Manly at the moment, too,
Speaker 4: is that there's two players that carry that team. You've
Speaker 4: got all these different parts and everyone does their job
Speaker 4: really well. But if Tom travoivh' is not on the field,
Speaker 4: they probably lose forty percent chance of winning. And if
Speaker 4: DC is there, they don't win. And now they've lost
Speaker 4: one of those parts to the puzzle and moving forward
Speaker 4: with Tom's injury concerns over time they've breath. You've got
Speaker 4: it right, mate, the premiership window will slam shut?
Speaker 5: What about the what about the CEO saying that there's
Speaker 5: not a personality clash with he and the coach and
Speaker 5: he and the CEO?
Speaker 1: How can they're not has to be how can they
Speaker 1: not be Gordon?
Speaker 4: But because you've got the star player and the boss
Speaker 4: that aren't on the same page, there has to be drama.
Speaker 4: There has to be something going on.
Speaker 1: Which leads me to the next thing. This is why
Speaker 1: there's so many situations and events here that lead me
Speaker 1: to there has to be an issue there. If mainly
Speaker 1: knew that he was leaving, and he had notified that
Speaker 1: then that that he was leaving, why didn't they hold
Speaker 1: a press conference as a team, as a united front
Speaker 1: and say you know what, this has been a great
Speaker 1: relationship that we love him as a club legend, he's
Speaker 1: in his mainly polo. They sit there together and say,
Speaker 1: but you know what, he's decided for the best interest
Speaker 1: of him, in his family and in the new challenging
Speaker 1: chapter in his life, he's going to go somewhere else,
Speaker 1: and we're okay with that. Then we can move on
Speaker 1: and look ahead instead of VC going by himself without
Speaker 1: management knowing on a TV station any cities doing an
Speaker 1: interview where where they like, how do we explain that
Speaker 1: and how can you tell me there's no issues?
Speaker 6: But broth If Cherry told the club he wasn't sure
Speaker 6: what he was doing and it was more likely he
Speaker 6: was going to stop playing rugby league. Many then said,
Speaker 6: until your categoric, we'll give you some space. That's why
Speaker 6: they didn't hold a press cross because the decision wasn't
Speaker 6: definitively not.
Speaker 1: On the same page. Then if you're if he's saying
Speaker 1: one thing and they're telling you another that they're clearly
Speaker 1: not one the which which is the job of the club.
Speaker 1: Like it.
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if it was Nathan Cleary and this happened,
Speaker 4: or we spoke in recent weeks about the situation at
Speaker 4: Paramatta with Dylan Brown and these get out clauses.
Speaker 1: And we roasted the club over that.
Speaker 4: Well what mainly have done here, they've let their team
Speaker 4: down because if you had that bloke on board, you
Speaker 4: should have been odds on to keep it okay.
Speaker 5: Then well, if he's going to leave Manly and we
Speaker 5: spoke about their premiership window, who does he.
Speaker 1: Go to take your pick?
Speaker 4: There's probably eight or nine clubs that could do with him,
Speaker 4: Like in the Faired income stakes. You've got Cleary that's
Speaker 4: the best half back in the league. You've got Jerome
Speaker 4: Hugh's number two. In my eyes, DC is three, but
Speaker 4: some might say Mitchell Moses. Then probably what Reynolds or
Speaker 4: Leuai would come after that. So all the teams below
Speaker 4: could do with Daily Cherry Evans.
Speaker 6: The three clubs that have been mootured all day and
Speaker 6: speculated have been the Roosters, the Titans and the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: And the Bulldogs, and the Bulldogs will be the smoky.
Speaker 6: The Titans is a funny one because DC dramatically backfipped
Speaker 6: up there in fifteen. I don't think they'd have him back,
Speaker 6: but he's very close to them and form.
Speaker 5: But you think with Daisy there. They had a lot
Speaker 5: of success together. You think they still have a pretty
Speaker 5: good relationship. They do, But yeah, I'm not talking for
Speaker 5: the club.
Speaker 1: But so all's going to happen there all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Now we are saying that he's going to be playing
Speaker 1: next year after the confusion of last.
Speaker 6: Manly still hope breath that he will re sign. Look
Speaker 6: it's probably PINEK and.
Speaker 1: Fifty I record that's'll get out elsewhere. It's not.
Speaker 6: It's not happening break but they must still have some
Speaker 6: day saying that just offer today but while they go
Speaker 6: through the charade has been back now National TV here
Speaker 6: is a re backflip once? Who say you won't backflip again? Real,
Speaker 6: I'm just saying if they've lodged the offer, it clearly.
Speaker 1: Means that there is some internal.
Speaker 4: Or is that just to pacify the fans. That's just
Speaker 4: a public show of you know, we're still want in here,
Speaker 4: pacify the fans. But they had seven hundred, had four
Speaker 4: months to get it right, mate, and they didn't do it.
Speaker 6: Do you think seven hundred a year is low balling
Speaker 6: a player who is still exceptional, but he's going on
Speaker 6: thirty seven years old.
Speaker 4: I reckon at least two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
Speaker 4: a year.
Speaker 1: No, I think if he's a top three half, finely
Speaker 1: I would have signed him for two years. And not
Speaker 1: only would you have had one of the best hards
Speaker 1: in the game who is a club man and a
Speaker 1: greater of the club, but you would have had two
Speaker 1: years to prepare for your next move. But don't they
Speaker 1: don't have time to even prepare for life after DC.
Speaker 5: Didn't Ben Hunt go for six hundred and he was
Speaker 5: on a million, that's four hundred less.
Speaker 1: They could have went for Locke Galvin. They could have.
Speaker 1: They could have said, all right, we'll have DCE and
Speaker 1: and we'll zero in on a player of the caliber
Speaker 1: of lock Yavin.
Speaker 4: Put it to you this way, would you rather, right
Speaker 4: this minute for next season, signed Dylan Brown for one
Speaker 4: point three one point four or DCE for one point
Speaker 4: three one point four for the next two year?
Speaker 1: Clearly, but it won't be. So that's what he's market.
Speaker 1: But like thirteen years younger Orange, forget that, forget the
Speaker 1: birth certificate. He's still You can't he is still in
Speaker 1: the half backs.
Speaker 5: And you cannot forget the burst off because for two
Speaker 5: years you can because Father Time is undefeated.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, father Time's undefeaed.
Speaker 4: But Gordy, I say this right, if he leaves Manly
Speaker 4: at the end of the year, unless they get a halfback,
Speaker 4: is good. They will not be winning a comp next year.
Speaker 4: There are a chance if he's not saying that's.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying that I'm saying another sixty games out
Speaker 5: of a thirty six year old body in one of
Speaker 5: the toughest competitions in the world.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4: If you've got you got your premission, which which leads
Speaker 4: us to the next the next question about where he
Speaker 4: goes and you think about what where the roosters are
Speaker 4: at the moment, and they have Sam Walker, James Dedesko,
Speaker 4: Robson comes next year, They've got a powerful young pack.
Speaker 1: Because we'll get to where he may land after this.
Speaker 1: But DC, you said, you know, his reputation took a
Speaker 1: hit after the Titans back flip, as you mentioned before,
Speaker 1: we still haven't got is there a.
Speaker 6: Chance, well, that's what happened on the Gold Coast.
Speaker 1: There is there a chance that the fans turn on
Speaker 1: him after after this. Well, it'll be interesting to be
Speaker 1: at Brookvale. This Sunday, Manly plays Paramatta. Will the fans
Speaker 1: boo him Eels fans booed Dylan Edwards, Dylan Brown Rather,
Speaker 1: of course they will. But do you brew a club legend?
Speaker 1: I think is very different to the d c d
Speaker 1: He's one of a premiership. He's in great form. He's
Speaker 1: played very good consistently, i'd say their best player for
Speaker 1: nearly ten years, you know, and and he's he's been
Speaker 1: offered a one year wants or two, didn't get what
Speaker 1: he wanted from the club, decided to move on. Very different.
Speaker 4: I think he goes out and has a blinder, they'll
Speaker 4: be they'll be billing the chairman's box mate, That's what
Speaker 4: It'll be, one or the other.
Speaker 1: And that's the unfortunate thing. Paint hats when he was negotiating.
Speaker 5: He's been the best player for the last seven years,
Speaker 5: so it doesn't but that's what fans do. Of course,
Speaker 5: if DC he thinks he's going to run out there
Speaker 5: and not ruffle any I'll.
Speaker 6: Just throw a link out here goes and there's no
Speaker 6: concrete left and right. Joe last week, Joe Weebe is
Speaker 6: Daily's manager. Joe Weebe manages James Tedesco the Rooster's fullback,
Speaker 6: and Joe Weebe manages Rhes robson who will be.
Speaker 1: We're going to we're going to talk about it. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk about this a bit later. But you're
Speaker 1: both just leading me down the garden path to the Roosters,
Speaker 1: so let's talk. Come through the door then. I don't
Speaker 1: enough want to go through your door. But anyway, the
Speaker 1: Roosters there there, their name keeps popping up, and we
Speaker 1: know what Nick polaitis is like. We know he's missed
Speaker 1: a few lately and their recruitment hasn't been ideal. We
Speaker 1: know they're short on halves, especially at present. We know
Speaker 1: that they did a similar pulled off a similar deal
Speaker 1: with a similar style of player in Cooper Kronk, which
Speaker 1: won them a premiership. Could he end up at the Roosters?
Speaker 1: Really end up at the Roosters?
Speaker 6: I think, if you're putting me on the spot, Brak,
Speaker 6: I reckon the Roosters are favorites. I think if I didn't,
Speaker 6: just because I would have said about Joe Weebe about
Speaker 6: the Roosters, they need a half back.
Speaker 1: Robbo loves Dce. Nick's very close. Have you heard anything
Speaker 1: or is it just your opinion. It's summation. So I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he would definitely be.
Speaker 7: There, but I I think he's your opinion well, adding
Speaker 7: up to and two, doctor, I reckon the Dogs.
Speaker 4: Gus loves him what he makes. He makes them into
Speaker 4: a premiership the Dogs.
Speaker 5: There is a lot of romance about him going back
Speaker 5: because that's his family name.
Speaker 1: It's it's anonymous. I don't think he wants to go
Speaker 1: back to Redcliffe for his family. That's wrong here.
Speaker 6: I think I think from the Northern Beaches and the
Speaker 6: three girls go to Northern Beaches schools. So if he
Speaker 6: does go to the Roosters, he can stay home and
Speaker 6: the kids stayed with school.
Speaker 1: A premiership and if he goes to in my opinion,
Speaker 1: goes to the Roosters or the Dogs. He slides into
Speaker 1: two teams that he takes too into premiership contention. He
Speaker 1: goes to the Dolphins, not so much the Dolphins. He
Speaker 1: may get a couple of hundred thousand, which one would
Speaker 1: you go to it there's the Roosters and the Dogs.
Speaker 1: If I'm him right now, the Dogs. I look at
Speaker 1: the Dogs team and I've been saying it for a
Speaker 1: while they are half back. And this is no disrespect
Speaker 1: to Sexon because he's doing a magnificent job. But they're
Speaker 1: a top eight easy team on the edge of the
Speaker 1: four right now. DC instantly takes them to a top
Speaker 1: four team and takes them into premiership contention, but the
Speaker 1: rooster is complete side the Roosters would be a magnificent
Speaker 1: buy two, I believe, and he would take them into
Speaker 1: premiership contention as well. But I think maybe just the
Speaker 1: Dogs have the edge with the side they've got, the
Speaker 1: way they're playing, the confidence they've built the players. He
Speaker 1: will make Burton a much better player because DC controls
Speaker 1: the team. He is vocal, which Burton isn't. Burton takes
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure off him. He can just run,
Speaker 1: kick and do his job. And we all know Kright
Speaker 1: and the rest of them, so you know, I'd lean
Speaker 1: towards them, But I actually think he'd be great for
Speaker 1: both teams.
Speaker 4: Would he work with Sam Walker? Because Sam Walker's what
Speaker 4: one hundred games into his career, twenty two years of age,
Speaker 4: He's an out and out seven. Jerry Evans is an
Speaker 4: out and out seven. Would it work together? You don't
Speaker 4: think it would. I'm not saying it wouldn't because you've
Speaker 4: seen it origin, you know, like you just go back
Speaker 4: to and and Jonathan Thurston is a great exam I think.
Speaker 1: Is semi such an instinctive player. Semi plays off the
Speaker 1: cuff and he's got his little kick and he's passing.
Speaker 1: You don't know whether he's going to play short or along.
Speaker 1: He's very much played what you see in front of him.
Speaker 1: And if there's anything he probably needs to work on
Speaker 1: to get him to that premiership level is his organizational
Speaker 1: skills and getting roosters to certain points on the field,
Speaker 1: which is a DC specialist. I think they can bine great.
Speaker 1: I think he would take pressure of Walker. But what
Speaker 1: I would do crawls if I'm a hierarchy to the
Speaker 1: roosters and this this opportunity comes up with DC, I'm
Speaker 1: going to Walker and I'm going how do you feel
Speaker 1: if we make a play at him?
Speaker 4: And that's the thing that you wouldn't and you wouldn't
Speaker 4: think it would upset Sam Walker, But given his age
Speaker 4: and his potential, that's the last thing you don't need that.
Speaker 1: And I do also wonder what.
Speaker 4: It does for their their academy program that they've been
Speaker 4: so outspoken about that they see this is the future
Speaker 4: of the.
Speaker 1: Club and all those two years two years it is
Speaker 1: two years. It's a lot of them next year in
Speaker 1: the year after. But like the Bulldogs and the Roosters
Speaker 1: that the halves coming through are exceptional. I think it's
Speaker 1: Rodwell and Woods at the Bulldogs. They're two to three
Speaker 1: years away, so it's actually perfect more. I think for
Speaker 1: the Bulldogs it is a perfect.
Speaker 5: To get to give a young half back one more
Speaker 5: year is not going to hurt him, Like to give
Speaker 5: him a bit more experience, to play a few more
Speaker 5: games away from the spotlight is only going to help him.
Speaker 6: I think you keep Sam Walker in touch with the negotiations,
Speaker 6: but I don't think you necessarily go and ask him.
Speaker 1: Whether you would approve of a player coming to the club.
Speaker 1: I don't think he deserves that pressure.
Speaker 6: You mean, well, you said before you would go to
Speaker 6: Sam Walker and ask him. If Sam you feel he
Speaker 6: says I don't want him here, well then you've got
Speaker 6: to you've got a problem.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't say that. He's not going to say that.
Speaker 1: But I actually think we're not going to say. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I find I want I want DC because
Speaker 1: they're a better chance to win because then they believe
Speaker 1: that they help with the decision. But you don't like
Speaker 1: the players making those decisions. Let's not making the decision,
Speaker 1: but you don't need to let him make the player
Speaker 1: unfront with him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been up front, you know, treating him with
Speaker 6: a bit of response, I said Cruls Initially, I said,
Speaker 6: you keep him involved in the negotiations and keep him updated,
Speaker 6: but you don't ask.
Speaker 1: Him whether he gets some sort of approval to get
Speaker 1: him there. That's a good summation, thank you. All right?
Speaker 1: Despite mestrof and DC, after fifteen years at the club
Speaker 1: and a premiership winner and most cap player, does he
Speaker 1: leave on bad terms? He lives on bad terms I
Speaker 1: think in terms of management, But as a footballer and
Speaker 1: his teammates and the Manly fans, I think, hold on.
Speaker 5: Why if he doesn't know what's going on and Manly
Speaker 5: were blindsided, doesn't that come down to his manager, not
Speaker 5: the actual management from Manly.
Speaker 1: Are you saying it's Joe Webey's fault.
Speaker 5: No, But what I'm saying is, can't DC, if you've
Speaker 5: been there that long, if you've got that much experience,
Speaker 5: can't you pick up the phone?
Speaker 1: Why has it gone.
Speaker 4: So so that's that's what we've been talking about to
Speaker 4: be between him and the management of the club for
Speaker 4: this to work out. I don't think you can possibly
Speaker 4: take away what Jerry Evans has done for that club.
Speaker 4: I don't think the fans will.
Speaker 1: Could it be the coach? Have you guys heard anything? Oh,
Speaker 1: there's speculation swirling around last twenty. Speculation is he's fallen
Speaker 1: out with either Sea Bold or Mestroff. We asked Mestrof
Speaker 1: straight to his face today he said that is bullshit.
Speaker 1: He has not fallen out with Sea Bolt and he
Speaker 1: has not fallen out with Tony Mestrov. So manly's vehemently.
Speaker 1: The speculation is did you ask DC? No?
Speaker 4: Someone someone is not telling the whole story because the
Speaker 4: fact of the matter is the bloke that's played the
Speaker 4: most games for that club, the current captain, is leaving
Speaker 4: and he made his decision, as Brave said on National TV,
Speaker 4: and didn't do it ader to press a sitting beside
Speaker 4: Mestrov and the coach.
Speaker 1: There's got to be a drama, well said, all right now, DC,
Speaker 1: when he moves on, I'm hearing the going to shuffle
Speaker 1: the deck. So Brooks is going to move the half
Speaker 1: back and turbout of five eighth. Is that the mail?
Speaker 1: Is that what they're saying. There's talk around the Northern
Speaker 1: Beaches that Turbo could shift into six.
Speaker 6: I personally would think it would be insanity. I don't
Speaker 6: think that's Tom's position. Tom's a fullback. Gordon, you're laughing
Speaker 6: at me because you would disagree.
Speaker 5: I no, no, I think Tom, with his injuries, I
Speaker 5: think he's a center right. But I've never seen Tom
Speaker 5: kick the ball. I'm not saying Tom is one of
Speaker 5: the greatest players. When he's on the field. He's one
Speaker 5: of the greatest players that our game's ever seen. But
Speaker 5: I don't think Tomas.
Speaker 1: But Luckier did it do it? And so Greg realized
Speaker 1: that played five eight in the Grand Final?
Speaker 4: Correct the other the other The other part to the
Speaker 4: problem though, is is Luke Brooks the man that again
Speaker 4: is going to keep that Manly Premiership window.
Speaker 1: Open because I lost their number seven. Brooks.
Speaker 4: He has done a good job since he's gone across
Speaker 4: from the Tigers playing that deputy role outside Cherry Evans.
Speaker 4: Is he is he capable of continuing on where Cherry
Speaker 4: Evans was.
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. That's the question. Mark and that's
Speaker 1: the jury is out because even last year when when
Speaker 1: Tom or DC were in Brooks, he didn't play as
Speaker 1: well as he did when they were in the side.
Speaker 1: So it's a big responsibility for him.
Speaker 6: And he said, manly, he's got a million bucks now
Speaker 6: too with his money, spend it on well.
Speaker 1: Rugby League's strange.
Speaker 6: People pop up all the time and you don't think
Speaker 6: there's anyone.
Speaker 1: On before next year. Lachlan Galvin, he's off next year.
Speaker 1: A year after that, I'm saying, but he's going next
Speaker 1: year is another one. The situation up there like this because.
Speaker 4: Next year is not the domino that you know what
Speaker 4: I mean that that starts a chain reaction around the game.
Speaker 4: Like Reynolds's situation I wrote about this week on Fox
Speaker 4: Sports is that he's off contract. He hasn't made a
Speaker 4: decision if he wants to play on. But if he
Speaker 4: does make a decision in say, let's say two months,
Speaker 4: that he wants to play on and the Broncos don't
Speaker 4: have room to keep him, where does he go? Because
Speaker 4: they've got Ezra Man coming back there, still got Ben Hunt,
Speaker 4: They've got about fourteen hookers up there, Like where does
Speaker 4: Renee go?
Speaker 1: If he wants to play, he might be happy there
Speaker 1: cause and take less to stay, whereas that's what you
Speaker 1: would do if he was happy.
Speaker 4: Or there might be six or seven clubs again looking
Speaker 4: for an experienced bloke to come in and do a job.
Speaker 1: Made it for one season. Okay, quickly before we go,
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