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Speaker 1: This here's a fancy podcast. This happened to me a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago. You actually you were with me

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Speaker 1: when it happened. I had my first ever panic attack.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I sat next to a woman

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Speaker 1: on a plane yesterday who had a panic attack on

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Speaker 1: the plane thirteen twenty fourteen. If you were right next

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Speaker 1: to someone when they have a panic attack, it's really scary.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's scary for the person having it, and it's

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Speaker 2: also scary trying to understand where the person having it's at.

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Speaker 1: I that was the first time it ever happened to me.

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Speaker 1: We were doing a corporate gig for the Australian Hotels Association,

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Speaker 1: remember with and there would have been two thousand people there.

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Speaker 1: And just before we went out, okay, I looked into

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Speaker 1: the crowd and there was one guy who was looking

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Speaker 1: at me and staring at me, and I, for some

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Speaker 1: reason in my brain, I'm going that guy's going to

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Speaker 1: rip me apart. And I said to Whip, I can't

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Speaker 1: go out. I'm frozen, really talk but this is this

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Speaker 1: is the kind of thing that you've done a thousand

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Speaker 1: times before. Though, Yeah, it was. It was so weak,

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Speaker 1: it was so weird, so we had to drag me

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Speaker 1: out by the legs, and then she put a mic

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Speaker 1: from my mouth and it was all right. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: we yesterday on the flight half an hour late, which

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Speaker 1: it's not like quantas, and then on the tarmac for

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Speaker 1: another half hour. Cake right, So on the tarmac and

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Speaker 1: this woman sitting next to me, I could see that

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Speaker 1: she was starting to get restless. And then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, in front of everyone, She's looked at the

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Speaker 1: flight attendants and gone how long? And I've gone, how

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Speaker 1: long do we have to wait for? And they've gone, well,

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Speaker 1: we haven't heard anything from the pilots yet, and she goes,

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Speaker 1: we'll find out how far we are in the line.

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Speaker 1: So then I've she starts hyperventilating, and I'm like, going,

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Speaker 1: what's going on here? We finally take off. We're in

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Speaker 1: the air and she's asking, I need I need headphones,

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Speaker 1: I need headphones. I need to watch the entertainment. So

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Speaker 1: she's watching her entertainment and my I'm sitting extra, I'm

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Speaker 1: on my phone and the sun was I was reflecting

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Speaker 1: off my phone into her, Ah, can you please put

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Speaker 1: your phone away? Oh my god? Then hyperventilating again, and

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Speaker 1: I was going, oh my gosh, I'm watching this meltdown.

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Speaker 1: Were you saying oh my gosh or were you thinking something?

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Speaker 1: Because I know how patient you can be.

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Speaker 3: You would have recorded it and Tommy would have said, no,

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Speaker 3: we can't play. I did start, but yeah, but you

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Speaker 3: couldn't say to her, look, everything's okay?

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Speaker 1: Are you okay?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just going to throw it out there, and.

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Speaker 3: She would have said no.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I think? I think I'm a

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Speaker 1: pretty good judge of character, and I can tell if

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Speaker 1: that if it's an actual panic attacking, or if you

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Speaker 1: are actually just you've got a short fuse and you're

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Speaker 1: making people's lives difficult.

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Speaker 2: So she was more of a Karen than a panic attack.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've worked in radio for twenty one years

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people that like to make

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Speaker 1: people's lives difficult.

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Speaker 3: You're here, you sit next to them, you sit next

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Speaker 3: to them every day, and now they follow you on.

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Speaker 4: A fly Kim, Hello, Hey, how are you going by?

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Speaker 1: Good Kim?

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Speaker 2: What happened to you?

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Speaker 4: Well, my mom's been sick in hospital and the last

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks, and I suppose it just got to

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Speaker 4: me after I had had a visit with her, and

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Speaker 4: I was driving home, just about to hop onto the

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Speaker 4: ring road and like I physically couldn't drive no more.

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Speaker 4: I pulled over and this gentleman on a motorbike pulled

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Speaker 4: over next to me, and he's like, a U okay,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, I think I'm having a panic attack.

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Speaker 4: He made me take off my socks and shoes. He

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Speaker 4: puts something on YouTube about a breathing exercise, and just

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Speaker 4: tap my hands a whole time.

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Speaker 1: So you froze, Kim, you could not like you were

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Speaker 1: physically struggling to drive the car.

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Speaker 4: I physically could not drive my car anymore, like I

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Speaker 4: suffered with anxiety, but that panic attack, I literally thought

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Speaker 4: I was dying.

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Speaker 1: Oh I can be frightening, aren't you? How lucky that

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Speaker 1: that was the day that that man was there, and.

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Speaker 4: You know it was there, Like I just feel like

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Speaker 4: he was supposed to be there in this moment. He

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Speaker 4: talked me through it like he was absolutely amazing. I

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Speaker 4: wish I had got his name and numbers, just to

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Speaker 4: thank ing.

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Speaker 2: But like, Kim, how long did it take for you

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Speaker 2: to calm down and sort of realize that you were

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Speaker 2: safe and everything was okay?

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Speaker 4: He stayed with me for a good twenty minutes until

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Speaker 4: I calmed down. He made me take off my socks

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Speaker 4: and shoes. Could he said, you know, you feel more

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Speaker 4: grounded when you're near the first you could want to do. It.

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Speaker 4: Was amazing that he was there.

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Speaker 1: I think if I asked this lady next to me

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Speaker 1: to take off his shoes and his socks, she probably

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Speaker 1: would have sucked me.

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Speaker 3: He would have loved to have watched it. She would

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Speaker 3: have loved heard that long. And I'm going to hold

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Speaker 3: your hand and we're going to do a breathing exercise

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Speaker 3: on a YouTube video. Stick with me, lave. This is

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Speaker 3: the fifty with Brand Pate podcast. For all great shows

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