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Speaker 2: And welcome back. Mate. We've got a pretty exciting episode today.

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Speaker 2: We're going to review all things twenty twenty five, the season,

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Speaker 2: our little reviews, our reviews of the preseason challenge, but

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Speaker 2: also our predictions for you coming up.

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Speaker 1: Simplify season preview, correct season preview.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to do it an labored sort of introduction.

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Speaker 2: But before we do, Matthew, I don't know. I know

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Speaker 2: you're off socials and stuff because you're not that much

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Speaker 2: of a technical man. But earlier last week I did

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Speaker 2: a retirement appreciation video for one of the greatest plays

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Speaker 2: of all time, Christian Weld. Disrespectful, Yeah, mate, awesome. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he loved it, and we've got him all the

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Speaker 2: way down from Melbourn. We've actually got him on the

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Speaker 2: line here today, which is an exclusive Welchie, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the podcast, fellas.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Tomas On. Yeah, it's been a busy week. I've

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Speaker 3: got on to some really impressive podcasts like James Graham's one,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, well Wind, it's good to be here.

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Speaker 1: It's always good to crack the top ten. But welcome

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Speaker 1: to first grade. Well she congratulations on your career. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned once before, I said that when you'll find that

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Speaker 1: of your funeral given the fact that people basically eulogize

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I've come a long way because it was

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Speaker 2: Let's let's quickly unpack. Look, obviously it's all in good

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Speaker 2: fun pranks we play on each other as as as

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Speaker 2: I was actually getting a lot of negative feedback on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of a lot of supported messages. And

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Speaker 3: I just want to clarify I was put up to it.

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Speaker 3: I was boiled into it by Harry Grant as you

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Speaker 3: and I should have known. He uses blokes. He used

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Speaker 3: I mean, the signs are there, but I went through it,

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Speaker 1: Can we do do a little deep into this? So

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Speaker 1: Harry Gran's going up with Trent's zero sister, correct?

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Speaker 2: Did you not know that? No?

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Speaker 1: I did not know. Well, look, guys, I watched football

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Speaker 2: But a well, chie mate, before we let you go,

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Speaker 3: So I'm I reckon we're a huge chance, and I

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Speaker 3: and I'm trying to tell you when it would listen,

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Speaker 3: you can sleep it not, mate, I know, it's just

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Speaker 1: Well, she I was just protecting, you know, because back

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Speaker 1: go through. Well, she listened. Enjoy your travel and congratulations

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Speaker 1: make great career. Well done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Welchie. Thanks guys, we've got to get on

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Speaker 2: What a what a great A great guess. I don't

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Speaker 2: an absolute legend.

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Speaker 1: It was all in good fun.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't all good fun. Yes, Jack will turn you

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Speaker 2: We're going to dive in, mate, Let's dive in. Where

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Speaker 5: Ad couber your your eyes flashed up?

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Speaker 1: Now you were blue ship?

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Speaker 2: There's been news going by where you go. Look, you

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Speaker 2: You know someone's probably going to be battling for the spoon.

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Speaker 2: Is there a team in your opinion this year that

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Speaker 2: He was in everything. He was overcalling players who were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, from my perspective, we're going to get into some

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Speaker 1: the performances in the finals I've seen so far, Sorry,

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Speaker 1: there are some bilic emblematic of I think your club's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the preseason, I think, yeah, definitely. I think one

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Speaker 1: And we don't hate to oftentimes always come back to

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Speaker 2: If the bat you know, I think here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be what he does. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: I nearly see them in the top eight.

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Speaker 2: You don't think I can see them potentially squeezing into eighth.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I see them around ten, eleven, twelve. Yeh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's that's a really good season, given

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Speaker 1: that's a good step here. Yeah, got that, Madge, This is,

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Speaker 2: I think so? Yeah? I think I think. I think

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Speaker 2: and he comes into that seventh position, I don't think

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Speaker 2: they lose a heap.

436
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Speaker 1: Romantic storylines and sport our hand in hand ben Hunt

437
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 1: going back to Brisbane and grabbing that competition he nearly

438
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,439
Speaker 1: won as a young player sort of fitting. Yeah, I

439
00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:47,640
Speaker 1: like the Broncos. A successful year is top top four.

440
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,640
Speaker 1: If I'm mad John going on top four, I don't

441
00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: believe that. I don't believe the story is about rumblings

442
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,639
Speaker 1: comme out of Brisbane, about players been happy, they're training

443
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 1: too hard. What you've got at Brisbane, you've got probably

444
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 1: half the people up there. Well, not as far as

445
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 1: a club, but you know, I mean as far as

446
00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,160
Speaker 1: old boys and fans and whatnot. Probably half the people

447
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 1: really happy the match is there. The other half not sure.

448
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: Some'm not happy at all. So whatever anything that comes out,

449
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: they're going to be people saying, oh mate, this Rumblings

450
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 1: players are off every time they have a loss. It's

451
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 1: going to be that. Well, so, yeah, we told you

452
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 1: it's not going to work up here. The very fact

453
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 1: that how hard they've trained, and the evidence again is

454
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 1: in the troll games they played Burly. Sure it's only Burly,

455
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 1: they putat it really young sighted Burley was zero. I

456
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,399
Speaker 1: know it's against Burley. It's a big, big thing. I

457
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 1: thought against the Titans they were sensational that they rested.

458
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,360
Speaker 1: They had rested all their stars. They just built their

459
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 1: game so methodically. They were so decisive in yardage. They

460
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 1: were great defensively. I think the Titans want to score

461
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: twelve points. They scored fifty. On all those signs towards

462
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Speaker 1: that the Broncos is going to have a really big year.

463
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Speaker 1: You haven't top four, Yeah, I've got them top four.

464
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Speaker 1: I've got to win the camp. I'll say that right now.

465
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Speaker 2: Wow, we've even got to it.

466
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Speaker 1: I've got we'll do that later. I'm going to clear

467
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 1: early that I think I think the Broncos can win

468
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 1: the competition.

469
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: Bang, wow, that's a big that's wow, that's a big call.

470
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: But the really the most important player is going to

471
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 1: be Adam Reynolds. I know with Bennie Hunt's going up

472
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: there and we've got Reece Walsh and we've got Patty Carrigan.

473
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: If you tell me right now and say that Adam

474
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 1: Renins is going to have a great year like he

475
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,959
Speaker 1: did year one up in Brisbane, I absolutely back him

476
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 1: to win the competition. I say, mate, they win the.

477
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: Comp even without If look, I think as Raman's out

478
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 2: for the first six weeks, if I believe.

479
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 1: That's where Benny Hunt's going to be priceless. Come in

480
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 1: there and even that's a really good experienced half. Combinations,

481
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: they've got good depth.

482
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 2: They got good depth. Like even Billy Walters, who has

483
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 2: primarily played nine the last few years, is an outstanding

484
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 2: half and when he plays there as well. So he

485
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 2: played there in week one of trials and he played outstanding.

486
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Speaker 1: Young John Madden too, Madam jockson, good footballer, So that

487
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: they do have depth. Another big storyline, Dylan Brown is

488
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Speaker 1: going to stay at paramatter because he's got you he

489
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 1: has to declare before round ten y I believe. What

490
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: do you think, mate, I don't.

491
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think you will.

492
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Speaker 1: I don't think so you're saying he won't.

493
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Speaker 2: I don't think Dylan Brown will stay. No, I don't

494
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Speaker 2: think it will. I think I mean, he's going to

495
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: have to start well for power to pay him what

496
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Speaker 2: he's worth. And that's and that's where I think. I

497
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: think Para. I don't think Para are going to match

498
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: whatever any other team's going to offer him. That's what

499
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Speaker 2: I think. So I think you'll I think Dylan will leave.

500
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Speaker 1: It's just just got to the point of sort of

501
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: the latest figures they're saying ten years, eleven million dollars

502
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: and there's ratchet clause going in and come more.

503
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

504
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: So that that's monster money. Yeah yeah, and that's it's.

505
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: Clearing money, right, like that's what Nathan Cleary is.

506
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically on Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So I just

507
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 1: don't think I know that different positions with their halves

508
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 1: was supplying demand. This is the with it so few

509
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: of really elite playmakers, is the people it's just so

510
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: desperate to get them. And we've said this before and

511
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: is the fact that paramount of signing that deal is

512
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 1: just hand all the power agents and they're going to

513
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: have this. They're going to have this should fight going

514
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: forward forward for almost year by year unless they can

515
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: find a way to remove these remove these clauses, which

516
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: the agents will be no rush to do unless they

517
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: give him that mega contract is after the.

518
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 2: Only scary thing for them is they go, Mitch Moses

519
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: is how many more years is he going to play for?

520
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 2: You know, he'd be early thirties, he might have Tom

521
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: Mitch would be early thirties.

522
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't know.

523
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,120
Speaker 2: I'm probably about.

524
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: Twenty nine to thirty. I'd make him for another five

525
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 1: years in his thirties.

526
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: Hang on, Mitch Moses age thirty years old is all right?

527
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 1: So he said another five years, Yeah, let's okay.

528
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: I was going to say they'd be worried about him

529
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: retiring and they need they need a dominant half after him.

530
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Speaker 2: I mean, if he's got another four or five years

531
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Speaker 2: in him, then I think that's probably that's less power

532
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: that Dylan holds when it comes to this negotiation.

533
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: Table, right, Dylan Brown, for before I talk about his

534
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: performance against Newcastle, I think as far as staying is concerned.

535
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: As simple as it winning looks after a lot of things.

536
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 1: I think a paramount've got off to a really good

537
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: start of the year. Say after eight rounds they've one

538
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: to five, lost three, that I would say sixty five

539
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: seventy percent that he would stay. If it's the reverse,

540
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: probably the reverse as far as is concerned. But his

541
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: performance on the weekend against Newcastle, I thought he was exceptional.

542
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: In the first half. He was really good. He was

543
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: really decisive, he was strong. He played the way he

544
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: should play. But a little bit like this is my criticism,

545
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: a little bit on Dylan is that when Newcastle got

546
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: the web hand and all of a sudden they started

547
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: to dominate him with a possession dealing with quite This

548
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: is where if you're on that sort of money, that

549
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: you actually stand up okay and you put your presence

550
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: on the game to where that the scoreboard doesn't tick

551
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,959
Speaker 1: over like I did. Again, you know, with conceding points

552
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: or you're able to turn the game back your way

553
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: like a monster does, like a cleary shift, those momentum shift.

554
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 1: That's the next step for Dylan. The signs are really good.

555
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: I thought Paramatta. I thought that I thought they were

556
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: I thought they were exceptional. The only knock is the

557
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: fact that once again when they lose control of the match,

558
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: they lose control of the school board. They're going to

559
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: be able to control that better. But some good signs

560
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: around paramatter. You got them in your got them in

561
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: your eight.

562
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: Why don't we leave? I don't want to. I don't

563
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: want to give away my eight before because we're going

564
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 2: to do our eight predictions well predictions at the end.

565
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: Well, A couple of things that stood out was they

566
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: looked fit as well. They looked really fit. And I'm

567
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: hearing great reporters are in Jason Rowles. He's got a

568
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: good coaching staff there. He's got Nathan Brown, he's well

569
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: experienced in Scotty wise Man, who said before he came

570
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: from the Wallabies and English Red Union. Very good staff.

571
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: Signs are good for Paramatta.

572
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: They just looked deep and like for a coach it's

573
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 2: only been there four or five months that first week

574
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 2: of trials, like I said earlier, at immediate an immediate

575
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 2: improvement in their shape. Like you can tell they've got

576
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: really clear systems. Like a bloke like Tommy who's playing,

577
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: who's going to be tip to play the fullback to

578
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 2: start the year and run on Volkman as well. Those

579
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: two excellent, Those two who have just come into a

580
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: new system. You can tell it's simplified and they just

581
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: played outstanding.

582
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: I'll hope in coop because I know Rose is a

583
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: defensive coach, but I know he's got Nathan Brown up there.

584
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 4: He's going to be running a lot of the attack.

585
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: And one thing that a lot of the boys I've

586
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 4: heard Kaylin talk about it and I had him there

587
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 4: at Newcastle for a year was Brown.

588
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 1: He's very good at attack.

589
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 5: He oversees the attack very well.

590
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 4: He's very clear, very detailed around the way the halves

591
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: play and the way that everyone runs their lines. So

592
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: you can see a bit of that, especially the back rowers.

593
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 4: Their back rowers were running their lines to a.

594
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: T checked they were synchronized beautifully. That's a sign of

595
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: a really good, good attack and basically again a good

596
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: attack in preparation going into the year. Yeah, I like

597
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: And we said last year that there were a couple

598
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: of clubs that needed to change the formula one with

599
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: the Dragons. They've done that and I thought that we'll

600
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: talk about them shortly. I thought they looked good and

601
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: one was paramounted. PARAMOUNTA desperately needed to change your formula

602
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: and you can see the week that they've found it.

603
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: And at the moment, signs are good.

604
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: Good reports out of Nathan Brown apparently out of the

605
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: nightclub scene as well out of Paramount.

606
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: Is that the same Nathan Brown apparently?

607
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: Actually Yeah, good to see Nathan Brown being able to

608
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: balance playing as a player in Manly as well as

609
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: being assistant coach for the Paramount.

610
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: Incredible. Hopefully he keeps today judicial hearings Dolphins, this is

611
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: a big storyline. Well, they break the Wayne curse the

612
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: wayn Bennett curse, and the curse wayn Bennett curse, of

613
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: course is when he leaves the club, they just go

614
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: completely off for Cliff. The last side that we're able

615
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: to maintain and continue success after Wayne left. Let's go

616
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: way way way back to Biblical times. Were the eighty

617
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: eight canber Raiders when Jesus was playing for Jerusalem nine

618
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: eighty seven they made the Grand Final as Wayne's co

619
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: coach with Don Ferner. He left to go back to

620
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Tim Shoons assumed and they made the Grand

621
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: Fong qualified, didn't make the Grand Final, but they maintain.

622
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: Albeit it had this legendary croppy young players were about

623
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: to dominate through the nineties, but that was the last team.

624
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: The rest of them, Wayne has taken the magic and

625
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: they're floundered.

626
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I worry about that. Like the Dolphins trial

627
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: form was good, I thought it was good. But yeah,

628
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: like you said, you do worry about them after about

629
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: five or six rounds when the pressure starts to mount

630
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: on without having Wayne Bennett there. Look, they still got

631
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: an outstanding squad. Like their squad on paper is really good,

632
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: and you think they were building the last couple of

633
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: years to sort of do something special this year. I

634
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: spoiler a lot. I don't have them in my eight,

635
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, a win for them is

636
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 2: top eight. You probably need to make the top eight

637
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: to show that you've broken the Wayne curse. But I

638
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: don't have them in my top eight squa I don't

639
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: think they will. This is the most difficult time team

640
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: I think to define what is successful. Given the fact

641
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 2: that how difficult the comedy is going to be to

642
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: crack the top eight, this team could finish you know, nine, ten, eleven,

643
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: maybe even twelve, and they look made a successful season

644
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: which is some really good stuff. Christian Wolf's a terrific

645
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: coach and good raps about him. I've heard their preparation.

646
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: Has been really good and they got one of the

647
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: best young halves in the competition. Enormous year for Katoa. Yeah,

648
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: that's that's that's a really.

649
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: And I think I think they've got probably the two

650
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: most exciting youngster players in that squad, apart from Katoa.

651
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: The Hammer, who I think he's going to have a

652
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: huge year. I think he's going to be I've got

653
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: the early crow on Hammer's career. I think he'll end

654
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 2: up being probably the greatest Indigenous player.

655
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: Of all time. So you're talking Arthur Boots and Jonathan

656
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: Thurst and Greg Ingless all those good man, that's some

657
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: sort of it's a big call. I know, he's incredible player.

658
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: And I think I just think he's phenomenal and I

659
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: think for someone look someone like g I, you know, Mal,

660
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: these these phenomenal Indigenous players, but the Hammer's just so

661
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: special fair I watching him play, I would I would

662
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: have loved to have played with the Hammer, Like he's

663
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: just such a good player. He's just he's so strong

664
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: for someone who's kind of not a big bloke. He's

665
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: not a big bloke, but he's so strong for how

666
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: skinny he is, and he's so quick, Like it's a

667
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: rare attributes that you've got.

668
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: When you love to see him have two years preparation

669
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: then jump on the blocks in a two hundred meter final.

670
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: Just the way he moves beautiful, it's like a four

671
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: hundred meter Look the great edwin Moses means nothing to

672
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: you younger guys, but incredible player. Right, he's a big

673
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: one Melbourne storm. Right, do you absolutely guarantee me, Coop,

674
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: Do you put your life on it that they are

675
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: top four?

676
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I do, I think because I think the

677
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: biggest the biggest thing that kind of disrupts the storm

678
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: is when they have storm, they have spine that's not

679
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 2: on the paddock consistently. You saw with perhaps the last

680
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: couple of years, even with months to last year, when

681
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: they kind of go hot and cold, they really struggled

682
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: to gel when they come back together. I think even

683
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: this year, let's say a pat gets hurt for a

684
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: decent block or a huge or a month to gets hurt,

685
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: the depth that they've gotten the squad right now, Well,

686
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: she spoke about the start Sewer to cover fullback Jonah

687
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: to cover the halves, and they have someone else we

688
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: spoke about earlier anyway, there was someone else in the

689
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: spine to cover it. But oh sorry, Tyron wish up

690
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: as well. There wishpying to the contortionist. So they've got

691
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 2: the contortionists there as well to cover a lot of

692
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: the spine. So I think even if you see two

693
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: of them get hurt, they've got these blokes who started

694
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: probably at any other club, who were willing to go

695
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: straight in and do a job. So I think they've

696
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: got just a huge advantage. And I think even if

697
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: you see him get hurt, you're going to see him

698
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: still make the top four.

699
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: Presumption's dangerous simply because if you're presuming, then it's very

700
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: dangerous when a team does as well. Yeah, doesn't mean

701
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: if they're champions like a Jerome or Harry just go yep,

702
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: we're naturally going to take the next step. Sometimes it

703
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: doesn't happen a side. An example twenty eighteen North Queensland Cowboys.

704
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,959
Speaker 1: Remember halfway through that, yeah twenty seven and lost they lie.

705
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 2: Thurston was so JT's last year. The twenty eighteen one yes, yes,

706
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: it was so twenty.

707
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: Seven and they lose thirst and halfway through the competition

708
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: they're going nowhere, Michael Morgan goes into seven and they

709
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: just go on an amazing and talolo. They do amazing

710
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: run into the Grand Final. Were ultimately beaten by the

711
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: Melbourne Storm. But they start the next year's competition favorite.

712
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: Everyone goes, well, all these young guys are a year older,

713
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, first and comes back into the side. Here

714
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: they go. They finish bottom four.

715
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 2: Now they did face top bottom four. I remember the

716
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 2: last game was Cowboys verse Titans. It was Thurston's last

717
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: game and it was yeah, they were they were playing

718
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: in the bottom four. They didn't really care.

719
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: Look if you ask me, what do you think, well,

720
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: I think the difference is between that side and this

721
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: side is Craig Bellamy.

722
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: Of course, I think Belly eight hasn't not made the

723
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: top eight. Ever, I believe he's saying his due and

724
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: he's well, the only time he did was Salary Cap.

725
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: They didn't make top eight, so not saying his jew.

726
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: I don't think you'll ever take a team outside of

727
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: top eight. So I just think I just think he'll

728
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: have them. His biggest fear because he's a paranoid. He

729
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: gets paranoid about, like he knows what to be paranoid about.

730
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: What about the people aren't talking about me?

731
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 4: Are no?

732
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: But I think he's I think he would have been

733
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: paranoid going into this season thinking we're losing no one

734
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: are they will I will refuse to let this squad

735
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: be complacent and think that where you know that we

736
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: earned we were going to we earn a final now,

737
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 2: So I think they're going to be hungry.

738
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: Great coaches are paranoid abyd defeat like they're paranoid going

739
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: I can almost feel if he's been failure coming, like

740
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: they CeNSE it all the time, whether the other naive

741
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: ones just don't see it. And I think someone who's yeah,

742
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: this is the only thing Coops, is that every single

743
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: thing that I feel points to me being a guaranteed

744
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: top four guarantee to be their Grand Final day. But

745
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: I've just seen I've seen it before, not with the

746
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: Melbourne storm. But really give you a bit of history

747
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: here twenty twenty one Penrith, who they've been in the

748
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: Grand Final South Sydney South. Next year you don't make

749
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: the fine twenty twenty two, they'll beat Paramatta. The next year,

750
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: Parameters don't take play finals. Twenty twenty three, that amazing

751
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: Grand Final, the bit the Bruis and Broncos. The Broncos

752
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: is just going to take the next step. Look at

753
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: that side thing at the competition. The Broncos have a

754
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: disaster that I meant the finals. So the history point.

755
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Uthing mouse to you about all three of those teams,

756
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: all three of those teams. Coaches are not there anymore.

757
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: Exactly one thing about you, Craig six Take me back

758
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: to twenty sixteen. All right, even twenty eighteen, Stormer beaten

759
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 2: both of those Storm after twenty sixteen go on to

760
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: win twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, they have heartbreak against the Roosters.

761
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: Roosters go back to back the year after. Even though

762
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: I think Storm came home a Premiers that year and

763
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: then twenty twenty Storm win it. I think Storm have

764
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: a better ability because of the leadership by Craig Bellamy

765
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: of bouncing back after adversity and after big losses like that.

766
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: He's able to make them. He's able to draw on

767
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: that and motivate the playing squad like other coaches can't.

768
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: Purely on John's bet I have them. Of course I

769
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: have them in the top four. Are they my top four?

770
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: Of course they are. But what I'm saying is, do

771
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: not presume.

772
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: Hey baby, I'm not presuming showing my expertise.

773
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: Wayne Bennett took at the Wayne Wayne curse right now,

774
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: the Wayne the gift of Wayne. Does he get Bunny

775
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: strap back into the final football Well, this is.

776
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: The thing, Matthew. If you asked me earlier in the week,

777
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: I would have said yes. But the news coming out during.

778
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: This week you actually come Cam Murray out.

779
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: For the season with an achilles, I believe, and Latrell

780
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 2: has already sort of hurt his hamstring and training. Don't

781
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 2: know how bad it is with Latrell. But the Cam

782
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 2: Murray one's so big because I look at that. I look.

783
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: I said to someone earlier a couple of weeks ago,

784
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: I said it would be all Souse are missing is

785
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: like another big forward, another big sort of enforce or

786
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: forward in that team. Like it just like another origin forward,

787
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean, another sort They got so many backs, but

788
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: they need another sort of forward now losing probably their

789
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: best forward, the most consistent forward of the last five years,

790
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: Cam Murray. I think it's just I think it's too much.

791
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. I when someone asked me whill they make it,

792
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: I say, I thought themselves. I think they'll creep in.

793
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: But my concern is squad depth. Now, when you lose Mari,

794
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: that's that's big. Lewis Dodd's still sort of unknown how

795
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: he's going to adapt. I think you'll play more of

796
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: a six ro old code, you'll playing more seven. A

797
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: big one is Shuster you play with Josh. Wayne's the

798
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: sort of guy to get the best out of players.

799
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: Is again these rumblings which don't mean anything, people saying, oh,

800
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: he's not really happy, he won't be playing Round one.

801
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: They're not sure. They're not sure if they can get

802
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: Shui playing really good football, getting back towards his best

803
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: football like he did what I've been twenty at Manly

804
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: and that's that's a big, big boost. But it's bringing

805
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: him a long way back. Hopefully he can.

806
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know he hasn't trained a lot. I know

807
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: he heard his car for a couple of times, so

808
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: I know it's hard to get into a rhythm when

809
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 2: you're not on the training. But he's had issues with

810
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: his cars before, so I hope that he's a skinny roster.

811
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like steps.

812
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesl like depth. So that's that's where I think.

813
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: I probably if you asked me at Sally Week, I

814
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: would have said South's slip into the eight. I don't

815
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: see it happenings bow in you for a sec, I reckon, sure, sorry, cool.

816
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 4: Uh see, it's a funny theme there. There's a common

817
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: thing there with the South Sydney sides under Wayne. Both

818
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: the years that I was there, the big talk about

819
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 4: the team was similar thing. Middle depth, not big enough.

820
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 4: I think he's I think Wayne's smart enough now to

821
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 4: know exactly what he needs in the middle and what

822
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: he what he is expecting to see out of them.

823
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 4: I reckon they're going to sneak into the eight still,

824
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 4: even with cam Out, I think Wayne's are good enough.

825
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: Is that a lock?

826
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 4: I think I think Wayne's good enough at seeing.

827
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 5: Who's available, who's available.

828
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 4: Amongst the competition in the scrap heat to bring in

829
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: and fill that position for him for the especially the

830
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 4: first what is it going to be the first four

831
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 4: months of the season with cam Out?

832
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: At least took check on that. I'm looking forward to

833
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: see Tellers dunker under Wayne. I really like tell us

834
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: the player. He sort of played a little bit with

835
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: all the coaching instability Underwayne, He'll.

836
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 5: At the All Stars com at the All Stars.

837
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: He was fantastic. He couldn't see, couldn't see anyone get

838
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 4: him down to the ground. He was just And did

839
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 4: you see that triple cut out tunnel ball he threw

840
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 4: from the middle nearly set up another try.

841
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: He was very you've taught me into it. Top four right,

842
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: Jack's lot.

843
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: If there's partners listening, Jack's Locke sounds to make.

844
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: The Warriors are interesting one for me. Warriors. The problem

845
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: with the Warriors is the players have lost are significant.

846
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: Firstly Tohu Harris, but he was experienced and he chipped

847
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: him with a bit of play making. Just a clever

848
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: footballer under Shawn Johnson says everything. He's an iconic half

849
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: iconic player and a real sort of player who elevated

850
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: all those young players around him. Fanuel Blake is the

851
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 1: biggest loss of any team in the competition this year.

852
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: For Noel, Blake's just he's a phenomenon. He that's that's

853
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: a bloke that they got. Jane Fisher. Harris got there.

854
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: But you can't replace any Phenola.

855
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: No, No, I think he's just individually he's him and

856
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: Paying Hass individually are the two best front rowers in

857
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: the whole camp. Individually, you know, Moses and Fisher Harris

858
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: have been unbelievably consistent for that Pandra team. But you

859
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: take two individual front rowers, like they are just the

860
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: perfect mold of what you want in your team. They're

861
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: they're so individually talented. And I just think Warriors were

862
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: impressive in the trials, but I think they're just like

863
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: we said, they're just two big losses, like they're just wait,

864
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: there's too many big guns that they've lost.

865
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: Wade Egans their most important player Coup because if you

866
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: have a look at their spiny Loop Metcalf, Chanelle, Harris,

867
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: Devita and Tomary Martin that there's no straight out seven there.

868
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: There are three players who's natural inclination is really to

869
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: run the football, which is okay, But you're gonna need

870
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: Wade to can have a big season. He's gona have

871
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: to jump out. He's gonna have to a really big year.

872
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: I think he's he's yeah, he's one of the most

873
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: underrated hookers. I remember we are the one thing about

874
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: Waygan is he's never looked to pass in his life, Like,

875
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,479
Speaker 2: he's never wherever he's passing. He never looks where he's passing.

876
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: He's the king of the no looker. Yep, we were

877
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 2: having a beer down you were down there. We're having

878
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: a beer down the Colorado. Not long ago, for Corey

879
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: Wodell's birthday. Wado was there and I was into him, saying, mate, start,

880
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: can you start looking where you pass? So then for

881
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 2: the rest of the night, Wado, when he would talk

882
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: to me, he'd refuse to look at me. So he

883
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: goes he looked away from me and go, oh, golla,

884
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: this this rumor's mate. He doesn't even look when he drives.

885
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: Oh really apparently always looking at it.

886
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: And the same thing when he kisses his missus.

887
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: No, they're he's never actually never, actually doesn't even what

888
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: his wife looks like. On the positive for the Warriors

889
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: is watching them in the trial games. At least the

890
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: Warriors know what they've lost, They know what the type

891
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: of team they are. You'll see them revert to their

892
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty twenty three formula, their twenty twenty three formula.

893
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: They begin the year by this. Well, the whole the

894
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: whole system was beul on this high ball retention. Right,

895
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: whatever possession, you've got to make the most of it.

896
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: You know that high completion kick well and defend furiously.

897
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: Pour seventy five percent of your energy into what you

898
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: do in defense, and that carried him a long way.

899
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: I thought last year they lost sight of exactly what

900
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: type of team they were and they ventured too far

901
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: away from that. I thought they tried to do too

902
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: much with the ball from halfway into the year, but

903
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: I think the returned to that formula. Unfortunately. I just think,

904
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: you know, with the players they lost, I don't see

905
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: him playing finals football. Yeah, Dogs, are they just going

906
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: to make Do you think they take the step that

907
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: most people think they're going to do and just naturally

908
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: next year become a top four side.

909
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: Look, I don't know. I don't have him in my

910
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: top four. I have him very close, but I don't

911
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: have him my top four. I think I think they're

912
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 2: this might seem ask, but I think they're just missing.

913
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: They're missing one more key to the puzzle to push

914
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,720
Speaker 2: them into a top four side.

915
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

916
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: I hope they prove me wrong because I like watching

917
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: the Dogs play and I think last year, their shape

918
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: and their defense was really good, a really big improvement.

919
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: But I can't quite hip put the nail on the

920
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: head with exactly what they're missing. But I just think

921
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: they're missing one more weapon potentially in the spine that'll

922
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: take them to the next level. A bit of an

923
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: older head. I know they were going hard after Moses

924
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,959
Speaker 2: and stuff for a bit there. Someone like that.

925
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: Would have been Hump, would have been a good picka.

926
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: I know they wanted for Nell Blake as well. They

927
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 2: went really hard for for Blake, which a front rower

928
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: like that would have been really good because they've had

929
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: a small pack.

930
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: And the other thing is with Neel Blake, he's a

931
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: good decision maker with the football. He can ball play,

932
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: he can give you a direction as well. I like

933
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: the fact they've got their own established style they built

934
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: that last year. It's a smaller pack. We said, like

935
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: the bearing Cameron Sirallo be really hoping that the spoed

936
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: of the rucks maintained that they clean those rocks up.

937
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: The foot on the ball doesn't have too big an

938
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: effect on the spoon of to play the ball. Sexton

939
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: was very very good last year. He jumped out of

940
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: the ground he should be as good again. My thing

941
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: about it with the Bulldogs is that for a Bulldogs fan,

942
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 1: don't think that you know a past mark's top four season.

943
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: The nature of this year is if you made the

944
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: first week of the finals, and you make the first

945
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: week of the finals again, that's a good year. If

946
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: you go second week with the finals, people, that is

947
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: a great year. So see, I see the Bulldogs sort

948
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: of sitting but first week at best, second week, I don't.

949
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Coop. I don't yet see them as

950
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: the top four side. There's still one more special player

951
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: away too. Okay, let's have a look at this. Who

952
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: finishes high? Coop? These are three teams. When we talk

953
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: about that log jam in the middle of the team

954
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 1: and how hard is going to be able to crack

955
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: the eight, these three probably symbolic the Dragons, the Roosters

956
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: and the Raiders. Who finishes high set of those three?

957
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 2: You know what, I came into this with a different

958
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 2: idea in my head. But I'm going to go and

959
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: this is this is my little hot take. I'm going

960
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: to say the Raiders. At first, I thought it was

961
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: between Dragons and Roosters. I think the Roosters have lost

962
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: a lot of troup. But I'm going to say the Raiders,

963
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: I think they're flying under the raidar. They haven't recruited

964
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: basically anyone, but I think everybody in their team is

965
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: going to go to the next level this year. I

966
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: think Hudson Young, he's consistently is a gun. I think

967
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: we're going to see though, the two most exciting Ethan

968
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: Strange and Kyle Weeks. I think Kyle Weeks is going

969
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: to be good the Trolls, He's outstanding. I think last

970
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: year did a good job filling in for half back

971
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: for Jamal Foggery. Apparently Jamal has been training the house

972
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 2: down as well. The boys down there have been saying

973
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: and I think they had a big loss with Zach

974
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: Hoskin the Mule, who was top four in the dal

975
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: Ems after five rounds last year before we got hurt

976
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: for Ages. But I think Kyle Weeks is going to

977
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: go to a really high level this year. I think

978
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: he's going to be People will start to talk about

979
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: him potentially for an Origin spot. That's how good I

980
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: think it will go.

981
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: I don't have the Raiders in my eight I have

982
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: so much respect for the Raiders because they're a young side.

983
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: But they just punch them like they punched above their weight.

984
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: They fight hard.

985
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

986
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: The thing I love about the Raiders is you know,

987
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 1: they're seven to seven and a half sometimes eight every week.

988
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: Like put it this way, if you don't turn up

989
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: and you're not on and you turn up and just

990
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: want to go through the Martians, they're going to beat you. Yeah.

991
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: That But the thing about it is with the Raiders,

992
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: and they'll admit this, So of course they're aside that's

993
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: got to really punch above their weight. That does you know,

994
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: it fatigues them as you goes on a little bit.

995
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,439
Speaker 1: But I get respect in the fact that they built

996
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: that they built their base the right way. Primarily, a

997
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: rugby league side first and fomas first and foremost has

998
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: to be a tough side to beat. That's what they're

999
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: going to be. That's the Raiders.

1000
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 4: Actually, cople We've got about a list of questions asking

1001
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 4: about the Raiders from listen to the time and he said,

1002
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: he asked, if the Raiders are to make the top

1003
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 4: eight this year, who's going to be the key which player?

1004
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 2: I'll be foggedy Well, I just said him, my man,

1005
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: I said, I think Kyle Weeks, I think he's going

1006
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 2: to think about the Raiders years gone by. They've always

1007
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: kind of relied on their pack and offloads for kind

1008
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: of their spark. That's where they get a lot of

1009
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: their tries from. They kind of get they get messy tries,

1010
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 2: they bring you down to their and they scrap. But

1011
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: I think Kaya Weeks he is he's the spark for

1012
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: him this year. I think what he's going to bring

1013
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: out on the edges, it'll be attacking.

1014
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: Foggy's very good play, very very well regarded Jamal Foggerty

1015
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 1: amongst his teammates and against and amongst opponents. There's a

1016
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: bit of talk, a little bit of talk about you know, contract.

1017
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean I can't even negotiate. I don't lot that

1018
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. But he and Ricky will worked.

1019
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: Out well, mate, Jamal Foggery. I don't let's let me

1020
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: take you back. Let's draw on my personal experiences for it.

1021
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: In two thousand and nineteen Sunshine Coast Falcus Reserve Grade

1022
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: for the Melbourne Storm. In our team that year, we

1023
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: had myself, Nico Hines, Ryan Pappenhausen for a bit justin

1024
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 2: Olham Curtis Scott, Tuna, Tino fas aUI, Harry Grant, and

1025
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: then amongst and then a couple of really really good

1026
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 2: reserve grade plays who have been around for a while,

1027
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 2: like Todd Murphy, and then and then me fifty feet

1028
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 2: of crap and then me, don't put shit on me,

1029
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 2: all right, because that was that was my peak. We went,

1030
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 2: we broke the record for the most wins in a season.

1031
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: I think we lost one game all year. And then

1032
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: we got to the pre limb and come up against Burley.

1033
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 2: Jamal Fogget he was there. This is just before he debuted.

1034
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: He's about twenty six at the time, and he just

1035
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: kicked us off the park. Kicked three forty twenties in

1036
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: the first half. Jamal did and the game and he

1037
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: kicked eight repeat sets in the first half, and I

1038
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 2: remember we were like shit, like we just we did

1039
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: so much defense and we're just blown off by the

1040
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: first half that there was just nothing left in the

1041
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: tank of the second half. So he's now standing player.

1042
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: Jamal to listening. We know he loves the podcast too.

1043
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:40,919
Speaker 1: Trivic story Roosters we had of course with Angus Kricht,

1044
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: and he're talking about he said, the players just relishing

1045
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: the fact that they had low expectations, but not having

1046
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: brand and then not having semi walker players that have

1047
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: left go I just see I see them middle of

1048
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 1: the road might.

1049
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: Be wrong, that's what I agree. I would have had

1050
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: him in the top eight if they had Sam and

1051
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: Branda from the start of the year. I think they're

1052
00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: coming back.

1053
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: Like round four side I finish out of those three

1054
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: are the Roosters, Raiders and Drags. I've got Dragons highest.

1055
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: I don't mind it havem pressed by the Dragons. I

1056
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: like the look of him. Kyle was good. Kyle Flanagan

1057
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: was good. The halves played well in the preseason. I

1058
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: think he and Lachlan play a little bit too similar.

1059
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: I think depth and the playmakers is a problem. But

1060
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: I just like what they did in defense. They play

1061
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: good power football. The Gathe move is going to be

1062
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: great for the club. It's going to be great for Gotha.

1063
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: Gatha needed to change, and he looked. He's looked terrific.

1064
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: All the reports coming out are good as well. Okay, right,

1065
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: let's talk about coaches understrained. The coaches understrained for me,

1066
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: Toddy Payton's understrained. Know about it. Adam O'Brien benjis, he'll

1067
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: admit that himself. And the fact that you know they've

1068
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: up the roster and got some good players are going

1069
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: to look to him now saying come on, Ben to

1070
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: what you can do with it and to a lesser extemp.

1071
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: But after the trials, Deserbee, Deserbe probably putting more pressure

1072
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: on his on his club than the owners putting on him.

1073
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: But Deserbe geez.

1074
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it dres are safe. Only the fact

1075
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: that they don't to me like they know there's expectation

1076
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: on them, a low they don't have the expected should.

1077
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 1: Be like he'd have been. I thought that. I thought

1078
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: they performance against the Broncos graceful. Yeah, he'd have just

1079
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: made taken the ball with them.

1080
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 2: I don't think. I think the outside looking in though,

1081
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 2: a lot of the times you see coaches get sacked

1082
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: because people start hammering the team in the media and

1083
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 2: then the owners start to they feel the pressure and

1084
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: they sack some much. I don't think they're going to

1085
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: feel it.

1086
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: Toddy Payton the Cowboys. So the Cowboys again, we spoke

1087
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys of twenty eight and with all this

1088
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: expectation and did nothing. The Cowboys that might have been

1089
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: twenty one or twenty two when they the year before

1090
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: they all they could have won the comp. They just

1091
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: miss making the Grand Final, would have been against Pendrith.

1092
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: Must have been twenty two the next year, didn't fire

1093
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: a shot. Last year they were better, but they never

1094
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: looked like a premiership force. They've come out and said no,

1095
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,479
Speaker 1: they're about to go through a rebuilding face. I don't

1096
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: think the owners will that patient with Toddy. Toddy he

1097
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: needs a big year.

1098
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they've had it. They've had one

1099
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: of the best squads on paper for the last five years.

1100
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: They've had an outstanding squad from one to seventeen. They

1101
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: lose Valentine Holmes. They lose Chad Townsend, who they'd kind

1102
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: of dropped a reserve go last year anyway. But I

1103
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 2: think they've gained Carl Lawton, who's an outstanding player and

1104
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 2: a friend of the podcast. Shout out Carlos. But Johnny Batman,

1105
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: I like people forget that. Bateman has just gone up

1106
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: there and I think if he can replicate the form

1107
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: from two thousand and sort of that seventeen that he

1108
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 2: had out the Raiders. I think Johnny would be a

1109
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: huge addition to how they play up there, because we

1110
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: said it before when they're on, when they're on and

1111
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: Rhys Robson's running and drink, he's on the advantage line,

1112
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 2: they get quick playtables and they go That's how Johnny

1113
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: Bateman plays. And that's where you see Johnny Bateman coming

1114
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: to his own when they get quick playtables and they play.

1115
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: Off the cuff. So that's I look at the roster

1116
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: and you're Rubn Cottiger, Jermyn and I, you're married to Langey,

1117
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: You're dead and all those come on. That's that's a

1118
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: top four roster. Yeah, you can play top four football

1119
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: with that roster. So they've got to have a big year. Knights.

1120
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 1: Knights always concerned me. Watched him in the whole game. Again,

1121
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: there was no Kalin there. But then again Pendrith didn't Sorry, Paramount,

1122
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: I didn't have a lot of guys. You know that.

1123
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: Again we's been over the last two or three years.

1124
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: You know. It's the halves situation is, it's so many

1125
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: halves on the book on the books can't quite rely,

1126
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: I can't quite find the right combination. Players are in

1127
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: players are out. There's tends to be instability, players are unsure.

1128
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: There's just a lot going on. Young Fletcher Sharp. They're

1129
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: talking about him moving into six. I think it's premature.

1130
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: I like what he does. I like he's a bit

1131
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: of a spark with the football. I like that in

1132
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: the young sixes. That can bring a little bit to

1133
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: something unorthodox. The defensive side worries me. Going from an

1134
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: edge defender or basically a wingles center and then moving

1135
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: into at NROL level straight in the halvesfending around three

1136
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: and four in that can be really, really tough. There's

1137
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 1: a couple of things in the trial game against PARAMOUNTA.

1138
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: They keep going at him. Terrific young player at this

1139
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: point in your career. I want to see him in

1140
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: the outside backs. But Newcas. You look at the team,

1141
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean looks through the Jesus A good team there.

1142
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: I like to look at Bradman best. Bradman looks fair.

1143
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: But he looks good. Saw Jeff Finnick the other day.

1144
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: I saw him, did you Yeah? I saw him. I

1145
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: was out at a dinner. You said to say good Ad.

1146
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 2: Sorry I forgot to say it to you. I thought

1147
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 2: I'll say it on the air Jeff good Fellow, he

1148
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 2: was saying, and he says, Bradman is an outstanding son

1149
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: in law. Why is that funny?

1150
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 3: Mate?

1151
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: Nothing nothing, Jack.

1152
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 1: If you speak to Bradman, he looks terrific. There's just

1153
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: one just one little bit of extra weight. He news

1154
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: to lose that necklace with best.

1155
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 2: I like it. It's heavy.

1156
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: Do you like it?

1157
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: I like it.

1158
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: I like that.

1159
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 5: I like he's legged at with the Egyptian God and

1160
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 5: Nebus on it.

1161
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: So I don't like. I don't mind having playing that,

1162
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: having that sort of swagger. I love it when boxes,

1163
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: when you see Floyd Mayber and those guys walking that,

1164
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: I love that. I guess what I guess, But they

1165
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: step in the ring by themselves.

1166
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about no mate, I don't know. You're on

1167
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,479
Speaker 2: your I mean, Jef's gonna come after.

1168
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: But what what I mean is, sometimes, like you know what,

1169
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: because it's an individual sport people in team sports, That's

1170
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1171
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 2: It reflects, It reflects badly in team sport. But I

1172
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: don't think it's.

1173
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: Rugby leagues, Ruby leagues tough enough, but you come up

1174
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: against guys, tough, experienced guys who look at Bradman who

1175
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: got best there and go, yes, I'm up against him

1176
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: this weekend. You know what I mean?

1177
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe people, but you're old school. People don't see

1178
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: it like that anymore. Players, players in the current mob

1179
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: don't see it like that anymore.

1180
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: See back in nowaday, what you'd read. We'd always read

1181
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: through the papers, all the teams would to just find

1182
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: something they're not positioned. Team or player would say, and

1183
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: they're just plaster.

1184
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't do that. People don't do that. Why

1185
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: don't they? I don't know. I think the mentality is

1186
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: because there's so much bullshit in the media now, and

1187
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: like people don't want to read it about themselves. No

1188
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 2: one kind of looks at it. So then if something

1189
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 2: is said, it either falls through to the keeper, falls

1190
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: through the cracks, or people just like to focus on themselves.

1191
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: As much as we made it was a journey, right.

1192
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: Sometimes we get there and we say, mate, can you

1193
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: interview this opposition playing in the pack and just did

1194
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of misquoting. So one day he interviewed

1195
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: a player. We're going into a really big game before

1196
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: the finals, and that team that he was playing for

1197
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: how to win the week before and they got it

1198
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: over this experienced pack. So he interviewed him and he

1199
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: was creating in the paper, saying, oh yeah, mate, I

1200
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 1: stuck it to that pack. We'll wait sure it until

1201
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: I give it to the nights pack this week. So

1202
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: it was in the paper. So the boys are like, yes,

1203
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: and as chief and and buts. He were just tearing

1204
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: into him. He was going, your mate, misquoted me.

1205
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: I love Willie Chambers. Will Chambers was the best I've

1206
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: ever seen. He used to research. So we would me,

1207
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: Harry and Nico would be up on the computers checking

1208
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: the team we're about to play for reserve grade the

1209
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 2: next week. And let's say we're playing towns with Blackhawks,

1210
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 2: and for example, they had Cali Phi five lower on

1211
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: the wing. Back in those days, he'd been in reserve grade.

1212
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: He was killing a reserve grade and Chambers go, who's

1213
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 2: playing in that team? And I've been showing the team

1214
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: and he go right next day, he'd be researching. He'd

1215
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: go on like their Facebook and ship and he'd come

1216
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: with notes for us to sledge if we wanted to

1217
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 2: sledge them. He'd have notes about their family members. Oh well, okay,

1218
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: Chambers was I was like Chambers made if you put

1219
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 2: this much detail into your footy.

1220
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: Then the chambers to be the sort of guy who

1221
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: came up against Bradman I reckon. He walk up to

1222
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: him when they first got to the ground before warm

1223
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 1: up and with his own thing and just go mate,

1224
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: I've got you this. I'll swap you at halftime. It's

1225
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: got second best.

1226
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: You know, James is hilarious, mate, he was that. He

1227
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: was that creative with his ledgers.

1228
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: Brad and love just play you look terrific, but we

1229
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: love you, brother. Don't do it. Don't do it. Just

1230
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: bring other people into the fight. Stop hammer and step

1231
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: into the room with other guys. Right, it's not put

1232
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: pressure on each other and Benji look love Benjamin himself

1233
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: is the fact that expectations have risen. Of course there's

1234
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: going to be pressure.

1235
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 4: But what comed do you think if if they do

1236
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 4: good off to a say they go on oher.

1237
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: And five start is with five is in, no wins.

1238
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 4: No wins the first five rounds the Tigers. Do you think, Benji?

1239
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 4: Is there a possibility that Benji will be sacked early

1240
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 4: in the year.

1241
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: Benji himself, there's there's always a possibility that if you're

1242
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: if you're a coach who is going into off the

1243
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: back of a disappointing year and you get off to

1244
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: a really slow start like that. Yeah, they'll admit themselves.

1245
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, and I'd like to think so,

1246
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: they will give They will give Benji the year, They

1247
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: will give Benji the time to bed these combinations down.

1248
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 1: I think Benji, I actually think like in a lot

1249
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: of ways, Benji and Luis. I think Jerome and Benji

1250
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: will strike up a really good coach player combination. They'll

1251
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: have a great relationships. Well that's what I think. Sharky

1252
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: scoops Yep.

1253
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: What do I think about? What where they're going to finish?

1254
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: I'll asked quest trying to think of this because I'm

1255
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: not going to Can they win the comp of course

1256
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: they can win the comp Can someone so anything can

1257
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: win the comp? Right? Are you bullish on them winning

1258
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 1: the competition? Do you have them in your very?

1259
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: They're not in my lock. I don't think Sharks are

1260
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 2: a lock for top four. I think they are this

1261
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: is his best chance. I think this is the best

1262
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 2: they've looked for a top four spot with the addition

1263
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: of Phanil Blake. But I just think they are missing something.

1264
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 2: But I think they've got the squad to unlock it.

1265
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I don't think they need to buy

1266
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: someone to unlock what they've got. I think they've got

1267
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,479
Speaker 2: a really dangerous team, but something's just got to click

1268
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: for them. I think it's particularly an attack. I think

1269
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 2: that's where they lie. I think defense kind of can't

1270
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 2: like they can worry about that. They'll get their defense right.

1271
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: But I think the attack is they're very focused on

1272
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: shape and their detail on their shape, and I think

1273
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: rather than one thing I like about how Melbourne trained,

1274
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: Melbourne trains sometimes not just set up for shape. Sometimes

1275
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: they they practice playing off chaotic, play the balls when

1276
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: there's one marker, and like not just practicing up for

1277
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 2: a big shape.

1278
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: They practice you're playing reactive.

1279
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they play. They practice reactive football really well and

1280
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 2: they you see that sometimes the tries that they score

1281
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 2: are so simple, but it's all rehearsed chaos and yeah,

1282
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: I think sharks like that. That's what I think the

1283
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: Sharks like. But I think they've got the squad that

1284
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: if they can learn that and that if they've been

1285
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 2: practicing over the break, I think they can really nail

1286
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: a top four spot.

1287
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: I said a peuple of times. There's two types of football.

1288
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: There's long menu football and the short menu football. Long

1289
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 1: menu football is playing football. Let's go through to the

1290
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: far past four, let's go three. We're going to do

1291
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: this into that short menu football is you're talking about

1292
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: reactive football. It's like not worrying about going big long

1293
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: shapes or working the positions for that. It's just dummy

1294
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: half gets out or first receiver gets the ball and

1295
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 1: he goes and everybody just get on the front foot.

1296
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: Look the hit gaps. I'm with you. I'm with you

1297
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: about the Sharks. I want to see more from the

1298
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: Sharks outside of just for now Blake arriving. And when

1299
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: I watched the Patrol the other night, I looked and

1300
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: when they played and they had a good win. But

1301
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: when I watched the when I watched the Sharks, I went, oh, yeah,

1302
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: they've picked up where they've left off. I don't want

1303
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: to see that from a team. What I want to

1304
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: see from a team is I watch them in that

1305
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: first trial game, I go wow, I can see what

1306
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: they've worked on. That's what I want to see from them.

1307
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, great mate of this family's

1308
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: Nico heines. I think he and Brayden Trindle they need

1309
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: to work out exactly how their combination is going to work.

1310
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: I think if I had any advice to Nico, I'd

1311
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: say this, Nico, if if you're going to become more

1312
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: of a reactive player, don't see that as emotion. Right

1313
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: for me, Nico, Nico could almost play. I see Nico's

1314
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: football has almost been the like a little bit like

1315
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: Munster when he's at his best. Is that you're part

1316
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: six and you're part one. But Nico's last three years

1317
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 1: have looked what Nico has achieved in the last three years,

1318
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 1: it's been pretty remarkable. But I just think as far

1319
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: as their combination is concerned, I think it really help

1320
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: Nico sometimes to just relinquish a little bit of control

1321
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: and say the tricky mate, you just run the side

1322
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 1: for a while. I'm just going to float around a

1323
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: pick and choose my mate. Yeah, I have a big season.

1324
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I sort of look. I was looking at

1325
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 2: the stats from the first trial with Nicholas, and I

1326
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: think he had about eight runs. He had more runs

1327
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 2: than Tricky. I would love to see on average. I

1328
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: remember Nico at his best. I think he's at his

1329
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 2: best when he has double digit runs each game, when

1330
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: he and that's that's and look, it's easy to say,

1331
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: run the football, run the football. Sometimes it may not

1332
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: present itself every game to run. But I think a

1333
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: good game for Nicko. And when I know Nicko's on

1334
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: is when he's his first in six is always running,

1335
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 2: and I think I think he played really well in

1336
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: that first trial.

1337
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: The other thing, two halves get into a natural algorithm.

1338
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: We catch the ball and move it the same way

1339
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: as someone's look at I look at Nico and I

1340
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: look at Tricky, and they're very comfortable the way their ballplay.

1341
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: But that comfort sometimes make us comfortable for the defense

1342
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: as well. And I catch and I see him floating

1343
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: on that forty five float float. Sometimes you've got to

1344
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: change up the way you present yourself to defense. Sometimes

1345
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: you're a little wide and you look a little straighter.

1346
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: You're looking to do the same thing. You're looking to

1347
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 1: target the same defender, but you just give them, give

1348
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: them a different look. Don't let them get comfortable. Manly,

1349
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: if Tommy Turbo has an Andrew three year, how far

1350
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: to manly go?

1351
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: Sky's a limit for if Tommy Turmo is injury free.

1352
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: I think. I think the way Turbo finished the year

1353
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: last year with the Australian Kangaroos, that was back to

1354
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: dalim Turbo. That was back to Dallium turbo form. I

1355
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 2: think if he replicates what he did in that Kangaroo shuge,

1356
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 2: which I don't see why he can't. He's been and

1357
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: the boys say that he's been training the house down,

1358
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: he's been really fit, he's been really good, he's really comfortable.

1359
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: So I'm adamant that Manly and I said this last year,

1360
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:49,479
Speaker 2: and I felt like that when I was there, Manly

1361
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 2: can win the comp. Manly can genuinely win the comp.

1362
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 2: They are good enough that they can win the comp.

1363
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: The only thing they struggle with this consistency where their

1364
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: best is a ten and their worst the three. So

1365
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: they can rock up one day and they just nothing

1366
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: goes right for them.

1367
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. When I think are Manly straight away, first thing

1368
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: comes to minds is a dry Sunday after into Brookvale

1369
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: Oval and after twenty five minutes a lot they're going

1370
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: to win by sixty points, but then somehow they just

1371
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: let the opponents back into the game. He's up tight.

1372
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: Mel I think a great season for me is for

1373
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: merely a fantastic season's top four, But that's their seriling.

1374
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: For me, I don't see him as that next level time.

1375
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: I generally can see him doing it. But the problem

1376
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: is I can see him, I can see him winning

1377
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: the comp and I can also see him missing out

1378
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: on the eighth.

1379
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: Well, what a headline you've done there, What an amazing headlight?

1380
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: Right a coops here? Yep, we're sitting here full time.

1381
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: Whistles are blown in the Grand Final. At the end

1382
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five Grand Final. Have the Panthers just

1383
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: won five comps in a row?

1384
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it's just too I

1385
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: think they've lost a lot of big troops over the

1386
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: years and they've turned up and still won. I thinks

1387
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: it's a huge missing.

1388
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: Piece at that tipping point.

1389
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: It's a big like Corus Sow that was a huge loss.

1390
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: They replaced it with Mitch Kenny, who's been a rock

1391
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: for that team. He's outstanding, he's a heart and soul

1392
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 2: of it, you know, but missing Jerome and they haven't

1393
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: replaced him with it with somebody who's like a Mitch Kenny,

1394
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 2: who comes in and is a genuine in that position,

1395
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: Blaze Telungey, they said it's going to play six there.

1396
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm not sold on Blaze being a six in general

1397
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 2: right now unless he just plays as a ball playing

1398
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: six and compliments Nathan like that. But I don't see

1399
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: them winning end again.

1400
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: But the problem is too, if they lose Nathan for

1401
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: a stretch, they've got that luxury where Jerome was able

1402
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: to step in and stabilize the season. Still, that's that

1403
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: sort of depth is difficult. I mean, what do you think, Well,

1404
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: if someone come to me and said, hey, mate, I'll

1405
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: give you five fifty for for Penrith to go five

1406
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: and able to take it, I wouldn't. I'd want I'd

1407
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: want to around seven dollars something like that. So for

1408
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,760
Speaker 1: that point, I'll risk it. I just look at the

1409
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 1: fact I think the Jerome on the back of it.

1410
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,200
Speaker 1: When they've lost Crichton, They've lost so many players over

1411
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: the years. I just reckon the Jerome one is one

1412
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: where it really starts. Just bite a little bit.

1413
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and each year you go, you try to win

1414
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: another camp. They've been they've been the peak. So they've

1415
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: been the team that other teams look at as the

1416
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: Apex for the last since twenty twenty one. Right, that's

1417
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 2: a long time to go at the top where every

1418
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: single year you're on the whiteboard at every team's preseason,

1419
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: they go, this is the team we need to beat,

1420
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: this is the team that we need to go past

1421
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 2: to be contenders this year.

1422
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: That's right.

1423
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: And they've shown up every year and they've done it.

1424
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 2: Evan and Nathan and Yowey and all those boys have

1425
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: done such a good job to continue to get better

1426
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: each year and somehow win a camp. But I think

1427
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: it's too I think it's too big a step now.

1428
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: These blokes they've won four and they've gone for five

1429
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: in a row. We won one comp right in ninety seven,

1430
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: and that ninety eight years was hard as you ever

1431
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: had because every time we played aside, they're going right out.

1432
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: We're going to stick to these blokes and show it

1433
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 1: they're not as good as they think. There. That was

1434
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: every single week and you just you just they don't

1435
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: get a weekend off. Every single week they're playing. It

1436
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: seems like finals, finals, finals, atmosphere finals. Intensity. Okay, right up,

1437
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: we don't get there way Top eight now competition winner,

1438
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 1: who's the top three in the dam When it settles

1439
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: after round twenty six, who are the top three.

1440
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: I've got I'm going to start at three, right, I've

1441
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: got Mitchell Moses finishing at number three. I think, look,

1442
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 2: the key to win the dally Am it's you don't

1443
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: have people stealing points off you, and I think mix

1444
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: if they win, I think Mitch is going to He's

1445
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: had Gutho' stealing points here a lot sure, so I

1446
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 2: think he will be three number two. I've got my

1447
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 2: man Hamiso tabioai Fido. I think he gets a lot

1448
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: of points. Of the dolphins up there, I don't I

1449
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: still don't see him in the top eight, but I

1450
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 2: think that's still rally up a lot of points. Number one.

1451
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 2: And here's my reason why he's going to win the

1452
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: daal a m Jerome Loue is not there to take

1453
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: his points off him anymore. I think this is the

1454
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: year Nathan Cleary gets his dally M. Yeah, I think

1455
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: this is the year. I think if he goes through

1456
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 2: his career and doesn't get a daly M, it'll be

1457
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 2: the biggest travesty in the NRL ever because he's he's

1458
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 2: going to go down as probably nearly the greatest player

1459
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: of all time. If he doesn't end up with I

1460
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 2: think you will. Yeah, he needs to end up with

1461
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 2: a dallim So I think this is the Nate does it.

1462
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: I've got third. Tom Travoyevich said four back in him

1463
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: to have an injury free season. Turbot Ye number two.

1464
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: I've got Nathing Cleary, same reason, No jerone, not going

1465
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: to pinch number one. I've gone for four doing it

1466
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: Adam Fenil Blake, Phil Blake for a big Dalian medal.

1467
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: It's a huge course. Top eight coops gives you top.

1468
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 2: Eight, all right, Number eight Paramatta eels Okay, I've got

1469
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 2: the paramatt of seals. Number seven, I've got the Raiders.

1470
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 2: I've got the Raiders. I think they're finally going to

1471
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: crack that eight. Number six mainly Seagulls. Number five, can

1472
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: every Bulldogs number four, the Sharks number three, Penrith number two,

1473
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 2: Broncos minor premiers again, Melbourne Storm.

1474
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll go one. I'll go from I'll go for

1475
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: the fruit of the root. I'll go number one. I'll

1476
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: go on Penrith Yep. Then I've gone the Broncos third

1477
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: of Melbourne Storm. Fourth, I've got the Sharky's fifth I've

1478
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: gone the Dogs sixth. I've got the manly ring of seagulls. Now,

1479
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: we've got the same top six. Okay, so seventh and eighth.

1480
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: I had a pool of five teams. I had Paramatta

1481
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: South's Dragons, Roosters and Dolphins. I've settled on seventh, Paramatta

1482
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: eighth Dolphins. Wow, I reckon Dolphins. I think I'll be

1483
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: back in contold to have a big year and breaking in. Okay, okay,

1484
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: Grand Final day, Coop, who's going to be mate? I

1485
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: reckon We're going to have the same And this is

1486
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: the funny thing because we are genetically merged to the hip,

1487
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: but we also think alike, don't we? As we can

1488
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: just see from that top eight, Mum says, I've got

1489
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: Storm and Broncos. I think the Storm versus the Broncos

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Speaker 1: in the Grand Final.

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Speaker 2: And as we know Craig Bellamy, I mean he's He's

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Speaker 2: win rate against the Broncos is outstanding. He really loses

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Speaker 2: against those guys. Storm take it out.

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Speaker 1: I'm going Penrith and Brisbane. Wow, big one pen versus

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Speaker 1: Brisbane and the winner. I've gone the Brisbane Broncos to

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Speaker 1: grab a competition in matches first year and the first

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Speaker 1: title the Broncos since two thousand and six.

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Speaker 2: So there you are.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, boys, Jack, give us one Jack. Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: win the cap? Make?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think I think the comp's going to be won

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Speaker 4: by someone different this year. I think the Sharkies.

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Speaker 1: Oh why not?

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Speaker 2: A couple of big calls from you today.

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Speaker 4: Also, Cop does not forget Vegas. We're going to be

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Speaker 4: in Vegas for the episodes coming up Big week Ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Fletched, Heidi, the Great Martin of Fire, Sammy Burgess. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a couple of surprise guests maybe who knows, so really yeah?

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Speaker 4: Oh, we might even have a surprise guest for the

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Speaker 4: Family podcast on the Friday. We don't know.

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Speaker 2: Guys keeping here to the floor.

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Speaker 1: Take it easy.