1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: On Scorne Lives Australia. This is the Reader Panete Show. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panahee Show. I'm 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: Danikiti Giorgio coming up tonight. The polls are getting worse 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 2: for Anthony Alberizi as the majority of voters think inflation 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: will get worse under labor. Hundreds of illegal migrants have 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: been arrested in the US as Donald Trump's immigration crackdown 7 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: comes into effect. 8 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: The Great Douglas. 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: Murray will give us his take on law and order 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: being restored in America. 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 3: America First is back. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: The Trump administration adopts a one flag policy at embassy's army. 13 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: Horowitz will join us for more. 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield on Prince Harry settling. 15 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 3: His lawsuit with the Sun in London and. 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Of course left He's losing it, including the delusional borderline, 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: scary meltdowns over Trump's genderban. 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 4: Keep one Phaeton because you just have to. Hal's eaten 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 4: hell reason always. 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: Joddy me Now is Sky News contributor Gary Hardgrave. Gary, 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: great to catch up with you. Thanks so much for 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: Jody v on the show. Look, let's start with this 23 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: latest polling. Australians have swung more support behind the Opposition 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: leader Peter Dutton in a warning sign for the Prime minister. 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 2: This Resolve poll, published in nine newspapers, shows that fifty 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: percent of voters expect inflation to get worse in the 27 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: near future. 28 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: Now if we go through it. 29 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: Dutton has gained a significant lead over Albanezi as preferred 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: Prime Minister thirty nine to thirty four percent in the 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: primary vote. Labor held steady at twenty seven percent over 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: the past month. The Coalition also steady at thirty eight percent, 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: and the Coalition kept its lead over Labor two Party 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: preferred fifty one to forty nine. 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 5: Gary. 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: Look, we're seeing a trend now with the polling. 37 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: What do you think that Peter Dutton needs to do 38 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: to keep this momentum going to really get the Coalition 39 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: over the line at the next election. 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 6: Well, it's just going to stay upright and stay focused 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 6: because this is not about Peter Dunton winning the election. 42 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 6: This is about Australia winning again, winning back Australia. 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 7: You know, the. 44 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 6: Promise of Australia has not been delivered to so many Australians. 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 6: Young and those who've migrated here are all wondering what's 46 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 6: happened to the Australia we thought we were coming to 47 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 6: be part of. I mean, Peter Dunton has got to actually, 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 6: i think, be strong in his resolve to think about 49 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 6: the long term and the medium term, not just the 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 6: short term thing. 51 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 7: So it shouldn't just be about winning an election. 52 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 6: It should be about winning Australia, you know, having Australia win. 53 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 6: And there's a lot of messaging out of Donald Trump's 54 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 6: approach where Donald Trump has been very straightforward about stuff 55 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 6: and some people you know, have had a problem with it. 56 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 6: And the more the left's heads kind of metaphorically explode 57 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 6: about Donald Trump, the more you know he's right. And 58 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 6: to get that kind of common sense narrative back it 59 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 6: is so critically important. But I've been saying for years, Denika, 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 6: on this program, on so many other programs on radio, 61 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 6: the whole lot, that you can actually see whether a 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 6: government trusts the people or not. If government over taxes, 63 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 6: over regulates, and over legislates. 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 7: Then you know it doesn't trust you. 65 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 6: And that's what we've got and I think Australians have 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 6: fed up to the back teeth with that approach. And 67 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 6: Elbow's in a world of heard and people say yippie, 68 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 6: you know, I mean, they really don't wish him well 69 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 6: at all. The trouble is this guy could get really 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 6: crazy over the next couple of months. Hears our Joe Biden, 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 6: and heaven knows what sort of stuff he might try 72 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 6: and do between. 73 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 7: Now and the election. 74 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 6: Who actually ruin the work that Peter Dutton is going 75 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 6: to have to do to restore the kind of Australian 76 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 6: promise I think a lot of us want to have. 77 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely Well, that's what Donald Trump's doing over there, America First, and. 78 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: That's what we need here. 79 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: And in fact, there's been a number of Coalition MPs 80 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: who are pushing for this bolder Australia First policy in 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: the wake of that victory. In fact, Peter Dutton is 82 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: reportedly preparing to roll out proposals on home ownership, using gas, 83 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: to lower energy bills and broader economic plans. And we 84 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: know that Trump has pledged to slash taxes, regulation, climate 85 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: change targets. 86 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: He's going quite bold. 87 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 2: So Gary, do you think that Dunton needs to really 88 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: go bigger and bolder That now is not the time 89 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: to be wasting. 90 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 7: Look, I've had. 91 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 6: Of you for years Doniger, and I've said it to 92 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 6: Peter Dutton, have known for thirty odd years exactly this 93 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 6: that I think it's like those old sort of European tours. 94 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 6: You know, follow me, follow me, here's my flag. You know, 95 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 6: people want Dunton to lead them over the hill and 96 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 6: to the next horizon, and so he should not be timid. 97 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 7: Now there are going to be people on his team. 98 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 7: So I just shut up. Let the government lose. 99 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 6: I don't think it's good enough to just have you know, 100 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 6: governments lose, oppositions don't win being the narrative over the 101 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 6: next couple of months, I think Peter Dutton has to 102 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 6: outline a vision. I don't believe that younger people, people 103 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 6: of your age and younger should be having their superannuation 104 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 6: locked up, not being able to access that kind of 105 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 6: money as even counting as a resource as an asset 106 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 6: for say buying a home. I think we should be 107 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 6: able to say, you know what, the promise of Australia 108 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 6: includes things like home ownership. It is the absolute great 109 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 6: way in which most people feel a sense of connection 110 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 6: to the economic wellbeing of the country. And we're not 111 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 6: hearing that language out of this Prime Minister who just 112 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 6: wants to follow the same old, tired, broken international, frankly 113 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 6: communist backed woke agenda about everything from climate change and 114 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 6: we've got to go ev this, where's the electricity coming from? 115 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 6: We need cheap power, we need lots of it and 116 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 6: cheap power. But almost got no plans if the wind 117 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 6: doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine and the electricity 118 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 6: goes off. And Queensland's having a pretty hot couple of days, 119 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 6: and already we've got state government departments being told switch 120 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 6: off the air con, don't use the elevator as much, 121 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 6: turn the computer off because the grid might collapse. 122 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 7: That's Queensland. 123 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 6: That's on top of Victoria, that's on top of New 124 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 6: South Wales, on South Australia. 125 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 7: That's not how you. 126 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 6: Actually build a better, more confident country. So Dunton has 127 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 6: to go bold. 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 7: Nuclear is just the start. Go stronger. Peter Dutton. 129 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 3: I agree. 130 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: We're going broken backwards under labor Gary, that's for sure. 131 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: Now, look, let's pivot to Australia Day. 132 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: A major pub group who was forced to apologize about 133 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 2: a controversial Australia Day celebration ban is still refusing to 134 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: acknowledge the national Day instead encouraging Ozzie's to simply celebrate 135 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 2: the long weekend. Now, despite blatantly omitting January twenty six 136 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: as a public holiday in any of its promotional material, 137 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 2: venues owned by hospitality giant Australian Venue Co are choosing 138 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: to celebrate. 139 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: National Is on your Day, Valentine's Day and the super Bowl. 140 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 3: Go figure, Gary. 141 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: Now this is the same venue who backflipped twenty four 142 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: hours after its Australia Day celebration ban. But now it's 143 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: snubbing our National Day. Is it time to boycott venues 144 00:06:59,160 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 2: like this? 145 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 6: Well, I think we've got to be deliberate in the 146 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: way we spend our money. I had a personal twelve 147 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 6: month moratorium on spending money at Woolworth's where my first 148 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 6: job as a young cared was packing groceries at woolworth 149 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 6: So I really felt sad about that. But you know 150 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 6: I didn't spend any money in Wilworths for twelve months. 151 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 6: Now I just have come from a Woolworths store earlier 152 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 6: this evening and the flags are up. So Woolworths learned 153 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 6: the lesson from a year ago. I think Australian Venue 154 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 6: Company needs to learn the lesson as well. I'm sorry 155 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 6: for the white staff and the people working in the hotels, 156 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 6: and by the way, it's not their fault, it's some 157 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 6: idiot in a Melbourne based office, by the way, and 158 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 6: Melbourne has this kind of we're not really part of 159 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 6: Australia thing that goes through it's corporate and government world 160 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 6: in Victoria. I'm sorry to your viewers in Melbourne, but 161 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 6: it's just a reality. And Australia Day is a day 162 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 6: which is important to those who have migrated here in 163 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 6: their lifetime, become citizens by choice in their lifetime. It 164 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 6: is a day that brings us together national is only 165 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 6: your day? Sounds fair, fantastic. Oh but say this Australia Day. 166 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 7: You know, why aren't we doing it? I don't get it. 167 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: No, I completely agree with you, Gary, and go woke, 168 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 2: go broke. 169 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 3: So look what happened to Woolley and look speaking of this, 170 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: this is extraordinary. 171 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: The handing out of a double sided Australian and Aboriginal 172 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,679 Speaker 2: flag and citizenship ceremonies on the Gold Coast has actually 173 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: been axed by that council after complaints from residents. 174 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: Who would have thought. 175 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: You know, Gary, firstly, I'm shocked that there is even 176 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: a double sided flag common sense. 177 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: Fine, they've banned it, but the fact that they were handing. 178 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 2: Out these flags in the first place just irritates me. 179 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: We are one country, are we not? 180 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 6: Denika. Here is your headline. There is a flag for 181 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 6: Aboriginal Australians. It's called the Australian National Flag. You can 182 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 6: fly whatever flag you like. If you live along the 183 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 6: Murray River, you might like that Murray River flag. 184 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 7: It's got a lot of tradition. 185 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 6: But the one flag which unites this all no matter 186 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 6: where you are around the world. You know, we are 187 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 6: a country like any country that we all recognize our 188 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 6: flag when we see it. We actually allow part of 189 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 6: our flag to be used by another country as their 190 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 6: entire flag. 191 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 7: The UK used as part of our flags their flag. 192 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 6: I mean, seriously, this is a flag for all Australians. 193 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 6: I've gone to citizenship ceremonies. I was once the Citizenship Minister, 194 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 6: the first ever federal citizenship minister, and I've watched African 195 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 6: refugees kiss our flag. They love the fact they could 196 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 6: be part of Australia. Why is it this cultural cringe 197 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 6: and this PC black armed view of our history has 198 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 6: to dictate terms on this. 199 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 7: They've got it wrong. 200 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 6: The Australian flag is about unity. Australian Day is about unity, 201 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 6: citizenship is about unity. And the gold Cast Council rightly 202 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 6: have reversed this stupid idea. 203 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: Oh look, totally ridiculous. You know, in the end, we 204 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: should be proud to be Australians. It's not racist to 205 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: be proud to be an Australian. You're not a bigot 206 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: for loving this. We've got to show that pride. I 207 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 2: look forward to doing that on Australia Day. Gary Hardgrave, 208 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 2: nice to catch up. Thanks very much for joining me 209 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: on the show this evening. Joining me now is one 210 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: of the finest thinkers of his generation, the author of 211 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: international best sellers including The Madness of Crowds, The Strange 212 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: Death of Europe, and The War on the West. Douglas 213 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 2: Murray Douglas, great to be with you. Thank you so 214 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 2: much for joining me on the show this evening. I 215 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 2: want to start with Donald Trump's inauguration. You were over 216 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: in Washington, DC. What was it like to be there 217 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 2: during this historic moment in time? 218 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 8: Well, it was, as you say, historic, It was extraordinary 219 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 8: to see the president's inauguration, the excitement in Washington, the 220 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 8: extraordinary cast of characters who are around in the city 221 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 8: to see it, and yes, it really did feel like 222 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 8: a new dawn in the US. It was an astonishing 223 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 8: speech apart from anything else that Trump gave much more. 224 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 8: It's interesting to compare it to the first inauguration speech, which, 225 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 8: if you remember in twenty seventeen, was outside on that occasion, 226 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 8: but was pretty angry in tone. In many ways, it was, 227 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 8: of course, a very divisive time in America. 228 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: This felt very different. 229 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 8: It felt like a much more magnanimous Trump. 230 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: It felt like. 231 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 8: A Trump who was on top of all of the 232 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 8: things you wanted to do, who had fought through a 233 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 8: whole set of policies in the last eight years and more, 234 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 8: and knew how to enact them. I thought that it 235 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 8: was also it was just in general, a sort of 236 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 8: positive new Dawn like speech. And maybe that's for many reasons, 237 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 8: but one of which is of course, the fact that 238 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 8: this was such an extraordinary landslide of a victory for him, 239 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 8: you know, the Republicans winning the popular vote for the 240 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 8: first time in decades, and much more. 241 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: You could feel the president felt. 242 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 8: The mandate that he had and the opportunity, the historic 243 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 8: opportunity that he now has. And yes, an amazing time. 244 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: Oh look, absolutely, and I think it's given a real 245 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: sense of optimism for the first time in many years. 246 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: And I felt like that was definitely conveyed during his 247 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: speech as well. Now we need to talk about this 248 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: woke bishop who went on a wild activist rant during 249 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: a church service for Donald Trump. Here's a reminder of 250 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: what happened, and I think that JD. Vance's face really 251 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: says it all. 252 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 9: I ask you to have mercy upon the people in 253 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 9: our country. We're scared now. There are gay, lesbian, and 254 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 9: transgender children in Democratic Republican and independent families, some who 255 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 9: fear for their lives. 256 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: Now, this bishop, Marianne Edgar Bood has now gone on 257 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: a pre tour of America. Here she is on the 258 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: view who are unsurprisingly gushing over her. 259 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 10: You seem to have more fearlessness than anyone in Congress 260 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 10: right now, maw you were so gentle, you were so respectful, 261 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 10: you were very demure and very mindful. 262 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 9: A lot of people, as I said, in our country 263 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 9: right now, are really scared. I wanted to take the 264 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 9: opportunity in the context of that of service for unity 265 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 9: to say we need to treat everyone with dignity and 266 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 9: we need to be merciful. I was trying to counter 267 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 9: the narrative that is so divisive and polarizing. 268 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: Douglas. 269 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: She's out there now talking about mercy and understanding, yet 270 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: couldn't wait to do all these press interviews. What do 271 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: you make of what she did at that service and 272 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: how she's gone about it since? 273 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: Well? 274 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 8: I thought it was completely disgraceful and the great example 275 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 8: of where the Episcopalian church has gone in recent years. 276 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: There was nothing really about God in this. 277 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 8: I mean, you would have thought that she'd have taken 278 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 8: the opportunity to talk about God in some way. 279 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: She didn't. 280 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 8: She just had a set of boring Democrats, left wing 281 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 8: talking points. First of all, by the woman, the obscenity 282 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 8: of talking about trans children. There's no such thing as 283 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 8: a trans child. No child is just born in the 284 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 8: wrong body. And if people are fearful, as she said, 285 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 8: which I'm really not sure they are, but if they 286 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 8: were fearful, then it's because of people like this barmie 287 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 8: bishop who go around claiming that Donald Trump is going 288 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 8: to come and kill their trans. 289 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Children or whatever. 290 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, people have to be indoctrinated into 291 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 8: that kind of fear, and people like her have perhaps 292 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 8: managed to do that to some of there would be flop. 293 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 8: It's just one of those occasions though, when you know, 294 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 8: you remember what has gone wrong where a large segment 295 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 8: of the church. It's not just the Episcopalian church. But 296 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 8: you know, this is a moment and it doesn't happen 297 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 8: that often in America any more than Australia or Britain. 298 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 8: This is a moment for the church to shine, you know, 299 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 8: and actually to talk about God, to talk about Jesus, 300 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,479 Speaker 8: talk about the Christian. 301 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: Faith for instance. 302 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 8: This would seem like prime time to do that. But 303 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 8: only a banal bishop like this thinks that instead of 304 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 8: talking about God they should do their boring talking points, 305 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 8: which if anyone wants to see they can get on 306 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 8: the view any day. It's just a real disgrace that 307 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 8: somebody like her is in that position, and as I say, 308 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 8: a demonstration of the church is failing, that they would 309 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 8: have just this third rate political hack when they could 310 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 8: have had somebody who was talking about God and representing 311 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 8: God on earth. 312 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I can think of no one further away. 313 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 8: From that position than her, and she or sure she'll 314 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 8: enjoy her two or three days of being lauded for 315 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 8: her incredible bravery. And after that, I hope she disappears 316 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 8: into the oblivion from which she came. 317 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 3: Oh look, don't we all that would be great? 318 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 2: And Donald Trump overnight's also demanded a public apology. He's 319 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: posted to truth Social saying the so called bishop who 320 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: spoke at the National Prayer Service on Tuesday morning was 321 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: a radical left, hardline Trump hater. She brought her church 322 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: into the world of politics in a very ungracious way. Douglas, 323 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: You know, Trump is right here. What business did she have? 324 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: And and it goes to what you alluded to before turning 325 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: what was meant to be a great church service into 326 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: a political one. 327 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: It's so strange. 328 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 8: I mean, and you know, just to demonstrate that there 329 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 8: should be such a thing as consistency. I wouldn't have 330 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 8: wanted to hear a sermon from a very right twing 331 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 8: bishop explaining how tough we should be on illegal migrants either. 332 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: I mean, she said we've got. 333 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 8: To have mercy on illegal migrants and how scared they are, 334 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 8: and I mean that's just ridiculous. 335 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you can just do that forever. 336 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 8: But the counterpart is you could just talk about all 337 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 8: the crimes that some illegal migrants have committed. But again, 338 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 8: who wants to hear that from a pulpit. You can 339 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 8: hear that in some of the news if you want. 340 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 8: You can hear it on it. You can see it 341 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 8: on x you can see it on YouTube, you can 342 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 8: see it in the newspapers. You can read the New 343 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 8: York Post, and you can read the crimes that have 344 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 8: been committed by illegal migrants. But once you step into church, 345 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 8: you would hope that you would get something other than 346 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 8: the day's news, and something about the eternal and the 347 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 8: divine and the sublime, and so, you know, just the 348 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 8: heart sinks. One of the things I've said for years 349 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 8: is that the response to the mad left wing infiltration 350 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 8: of almost every institution in our societies should not be 351 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 8: countered actually by the right wing infiltration of the churches 352 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 8: or music. 353 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: Or anything else. 354 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 8: It should be the depoliticization of the non political world. 355 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 8: You know, there are ever few there have been in 356 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 8: recent years, ever fewer spaces to use one of the 357 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 8: left's favorite phrases, Ever fewer spaces in which you can 358 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 8: actually escape from politics. Because the left has pushed politics 359 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 8: into everything. I hope that this is just another reminder 360 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 8: to conservatives and liberals and others alike, we need spaces 361 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 8: that are not politicized, where you're not going to get 362 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 8: a sermon literally in the church and non literally anywhere 363 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 8: else where. We can just focus on other. 364 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: Things as well. 365 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 8: And as I say, I mean that should really be 366 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 8: the conservative response, say strip the politics out. 367 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And this is exactly why Donald Trump's been elected 368 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: because people are sick of this absolute nonsense. Now you 369 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: mentioned illegal migrants there, and it started already. More than 370 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 2: three hundred illegal migrants have been arrested by ICE during 371 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: raids in and around sanctuary cities across the US. This 372 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: includes sex offenders and other violent criminals. Douglas, this is 373 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: just the beginning of what clearly is a massive task 374 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: ahead for Ice and borders our Tom Homan. But how 375 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 2: good is it to see law and order slowly and 376 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: finally being restored. 377 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 8: Well, as I've said for many years, if you don't 378 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 8: have a border, you don't really have a country, or 379 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 8: at least you won't have a country very soon. The 380 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 8: way in which illegal migration has been encouraged in recent years, 381 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 8: not just in America, but of course in Britain, Europe 382 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 8: and elsewhere has been really shocking. It has undermined the 383 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 8: fabric of these societies, and it rewards the illegality. At 384 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 8: the first point, many people like that Barmie Bishop will 385 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 8: have will be thinking about, you know, these people saying 386 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 8: they're not all or not all these illegal migrants and criminals. 387 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 8: That's true with the fact that obviously not all of 388 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 8: them have raped and murdered people since entering the US illegally, 389 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 8: but all of them have broken the law by entering 390 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 8: the US illegally. And meantime, by the way, you know, 391 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 8: this is another of those great things that undermines one 392 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 8: of the central fabrics of a society is you know, 393 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 8: legal migration is hard. Getting asylum actually for legitimate reasons 394 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 8: is hard. And the fact that at the same time 395 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 8: as that reality exists, you just have this other world 396 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 8: where any one who just breaks the law is allowed 397 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 8: to do so is just something that has massively undermined 398 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 8: the United States of America as with other developed democracies. 399 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 8: It is a huge task ahead for the Trump administration, 400 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 8: there's no doubt about that, and they are going to 401 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 8: be fought against by Democrat governments in sanctuary cities, Democrat 402 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 8: authorities in sanctuary cities like New York and like the 403 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 8: cities in California, and we'll we'll just see what happens. 404 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 8: But I think that one very important thing about this 405 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 8: is it's not just that America and the American voters 406 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 8: who voted in Donald Trump are watching. I think the 407 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 8: world is watching because countries like Italy, Spain, France and 408 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 8: others that have millions of illegal migrants in their countries 409 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 8: that they have totally failed to deport. Britain is another example, 410 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 8: more than a million illegal migrants in the UK, totally 411 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 8: total failure of the government, total failure of the state 412 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 8: to enforce the border laws. If Donald Trump can do 413 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 8: this in America, then maybe there's a blueprint for other 414 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 8: countries saying, you know, we are fair minded countries, we're 415 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 8: good countries, which is why so many people want to 416 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 8: come to the developed world. There must be something we're 417 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 8: doing right. But we're mad if we think we can 418 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 8: just have open borders and anyone in the world can 419 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 8: walk in. So the American voters will be watching Trump. 420 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 8: But my prediction is that governments across Europe and elsewhere 421 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 8: will also be watching very carefully and hoping that he 422 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 8: succeeds and that they can. 423 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: Follow absolutely and hopefully he sets that standard. Now I 424 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: want to ask you about the cease fire deal between 425 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: Israel and Tamas. We're already seeing the first of some 426 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: of the hostages being released. But Douglas, you know, in 427 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: your view, will this really ever truly end this war. 428 00:22:55,320 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Well, it's very early to say. My expectation is no. 429 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 8: I'm extremely pleased for the hostage families whose daughters were released. 430 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 8: Three girls women were released. Of course, at the weekend. 431 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 8: There has been an awful lot of praise of countries 432 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 8: like Katar in particular, for helping to affect this release. 433 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 8: There are still many scores of hostages in Gaza, an 434 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 8: international array of hostages in Gaza who were stolen, kidnapped 435 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 8: from their loved ones on October the seventh, and Hamas, 436 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 8: in its unbelievable necrophilic style, is also holding onto the 437 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 8: bodies of murdered hostages, and the Israeli negotiators having to 438 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 8: deal with talking about how to get dead bodies back 439 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 8: from Hamas's clutches, as well as hopefully as many living 440 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 8: hostages as possible. I think there are just two things 441 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 8: quickly I would say about this. The first is that 442 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 8: whether or not the war ends really relies on Hamaz 443 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 8: could have stopped this war, and indeed it could have 444 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 8: not started it, and that would have been a good idea, 445 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 8: wouldn't it. But there's one other corner which does have 446 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 8: to be highlighted, which is the role of Kata. Kata 447 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 8: is one of the thunders and hosts of Hamaz, and 448 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 8: it is galling to some of us to watch the 449 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 8: praise being dished out to Katar and the Emir at 450 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 8: the moment. My view, rather perhaps old fashioned, a niche 451 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 8: one at the moment is that if you try to 452 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 8: burn down your neighbour's house, then if you provide a 453 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 8: fire extinguisher fifteen months later, you shouldn't be enormously over 454 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 8: praised for your actions. And that's the situation that Katar 455 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 8: is in. They should be made to give all of 456 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 8: the hostel back. None of the hostages should have been 457 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 8: in guars in the first place. They were stolen and 458 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 8: it's high time that all of them were given back, 459 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 8: and I hope the Trump administration will make it clear 460 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 8: that that is its priority. So far, they've been very 461 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 8: strong on that, but it requires regional partners to do 462 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 8: their bit and not to play this double dealing game 463 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 8: that countries like Katar have. 464 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely spot on as always, Douglas Murray. 465 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: Really good to speak with you. Thank you so much 466 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: for joining me on the show this evening. 467 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: It's a great pleasure as always. Thank you. 468 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,360 Speaker 2: Still to come. Lefties losing it? Plus, the Trump administration 469 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: adopts a one flag policy at embassies. Army Horowitz joins 470 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: us with the latest from the US. Now it's time 471 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: for lefties losing it. Do you ever have a bad 472 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 2: day and forget people's pronouns, because that's exactly what happened 473 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 2: to this teacher. 474 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 3: So I had a kid on Monday. They said their 475 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 3: pronouns were she her. 476 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 11: Then on Wednesday, yesterday, they came to me and they said, 477 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 11: you know what my pronouns are? 478 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 3: They them, I want you in the glass Tuesday them. Okay, cool. 479 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 12: Great. 480 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 9: They come to class today, there's names on desks. 481 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 3: In groups for as science seats. 482 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 12: They can't find theirs because I guess my first class 483 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 12: match it off. 484 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 11: So I go to the class. 485 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: Hey is she in anyone's group? Does anyone see her name. 486 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 3: It took me five minutes to realize that I did. 487 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 2: Oh whoop see, And it took you five minutes to 488 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: realize just it's not good enough. It's really not good enough. 489 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: And what do you do when you make such a 490 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 2: grave era of judgment? 491 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: What I did? 492 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 7: When they were sitting by themselves. 493 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: I approached them and said I screwed up, didn't I? 494 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 3: And they said, yep, jay, how can you live with yourself? 495 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: With all that disappointment? 496 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: Now to the Britney Spears level breakdowns over Trump's executive 497 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: order on genders. 498 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 11: Our new president has declared on day one of his 499 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 11: presidency that our country will no longer recognize any gender 500 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 11: aside from male or female. As a non binary person 501 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 11: who lives in the United States of America, I'm a 502 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 11: New Yorker. I live in New York. I'm not going anywhere. 503 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 11: I love the city. Uh all right, okay, So if 504 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 11: I'm no longer a human legally speaking, of course, I 505 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 11: might as well have fun. So how am I spending 506 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 11: my day this inauguration day? I Am going to go 507 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 11: commiserate with my fellow queer people at my favorite lesbian bar. 508 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 11: Ready for the. 509 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 7: Circus, Roll up, roll up? 510 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: Is that circus recruiting. 511 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 4: And as long as you draw breath, every breath you 512 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 4: take is a rebellion. Keep on fighting because you just 513 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 4: have to hail Satan hall reason. 514 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 3: Always love that, absolutely love it. 515 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: And can someone please check on this next person who 516 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: is apparently coming to save America. 517 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 5: Something is known me off. 518 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 6: Maybe you're thinking too much, lugging out at the noise, DNA. 519 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: Then give me the rush. 520 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 12: Remember what I was doing. 521 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: I'm never double to come. Here's the side of my wage. 522 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 5: Here's the cover of my wave. 523 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I've got a theory that maybe they might 524 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: need some saving. And you know, I know just the 525 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 2: woman actually funnily enough for that job. Here she is 526 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 2: the woke Bishop of America herself, ah, in all her glory, 527 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,719 Speaker 2: she'll do it with those eyes, especially save the dying 528 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: gender crusade. And speaking of that bewildering bishop, it looks 529 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 2: like she's found her loyal disciples in none other than 530 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 2: the American liberal media. 531 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 13: Your turne there so serious and genuine. You see him, 532 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,959 Speaker 13: he's still face. He then looks down, but he's listening 533 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 13: to every word you say. As you made that personal 534 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 13: plea to him. What were you looking at him in 535 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 13: that moment? What kind of response were you perhaps hoping 536 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 13: for in that moment? Because it was gentle. I mean 537 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 13: it was. It was intense and passionate, but yet. 538 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 3: It was gentle. 539 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 13: It was not ugly or confrontational. It wouldn't expect it 540 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 13: to be. But you know, these are hard things to 541 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 13: talk about in that context. Particularly, you seem to strike 542 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 13: a nerve. 543 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 10: You seem to have more fearlessness than anyone in Congress 544 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 10: right now. Man, you know, Bishop, I was struck by 545 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 10: your tone. You were so gentle, you were so respectful, 546 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 10: You were very demure and very mindful. 547 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: Well, look, if the view ever need an exoricism, then 548 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: they certainly no whey to go? 549 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 3: Now? 550 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: How to look at this delicious demolition of a puffed 551 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: up pronoun reporter on live TV. 552 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 14: First day on the job. President Trump's sign and executive order? 553 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 14: You know, the US government only recognizing two genders out 554 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 14: female they're unchangeable. You know, if elected as prime minister, 555 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 14: is that something that you're going to kind of walk 556 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 14: in line with or what are your feelings on that 557 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 14: executive order? 558 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 15: Well? I don't know, do you have any other genders 559 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 15: that you'd like to name. 560 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Me personally. 561 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 14: I'm just asking more so, if you're in line with 562 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 14: what he is saying. Do you agree with what he's saying? 563 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 14: Is that something that you would be lockstep with? Theyf 564 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 14: elect as prime minister. 565 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 15: Well, I'm not aware of any other genders than men 566 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 15: and women. I mean, if you have any other that 567 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 15: you want me to consider, you're welcome to tell. 568 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: Me right now. 569 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 14: Well, there's well there's personally, I am a man, I 570 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 14: am a people says this man. There there are people 571 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 14: there who you know, they say they're gender neutral. 572 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 7: You are a man. 573 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 14: Yes, there are people there who say there are some genderutral. Yeah, 574 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 14: they say they're gender neutral. Uh, they're you know there, 575 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 14: they are a trans person. Is that something that you 576 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 14: would recognize here? Whereas in the stage at least with 577 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 14: their US government the way they're seeing it, there's only two. 578 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 2: I'm only aware of twough could watch Pierre on repeat 579 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: every day. Joining me now is journalist and filmmaker Army Horowitz. 580 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 3: Army, thank you for joining me. Good to see you. 581 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: Let's start with The lefts continued meltdown over Elon Musk's 582 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: gesture at the inauguration, which they are desperately insisting was 583 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: a Nazi salute. But now best selling author Gerald Posner, 584 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: who has written books on Hitler, youth, and the Nazi 585 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: regime and is very informed on this topic, has said, quote, 586 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 2: as non fiction authors of books about the Third Reich 587 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: and as co founders of Anti Semitism Watch, a nonprofit 588 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: that monitors anti Jewish hate worldwide, we know real Nazi 589 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: and fascist rhetoric and actions. When we watch this video clip, 590 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: we thought it was nothing more than him reaching out 591 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: to a large crowd in a moment of intense excitement. Ami, 592 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 2: how much more proof does a left need that this 593 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: was not a Nazi salute? 594 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: And why are they so desperately pushing this narrative? 595 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 16: Look, with all due respect to the gentleman you just quoted, 596 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 16: I don't need an expert on this, Okay, Thanika. This 597 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 16: is so stupid that if you send me, if a 598 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 16: producer send me this in advance saying we're going to 599 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 16: talk about this, I would have said, I'm not talking 600 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 16: about it. This is so dumb, but we have to 601 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 16: talk about it because the left, and when I say it, 602 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 16: by that the left, I mean basically the entire. 603 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 5: Media has been making this into a thing. 604 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 16: They're not arguing or discussing whether or not he made 605 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 16: a Nazi salute. 606 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 5: That'd be dumb enough. They're saying that he did it. 607 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 16: That's what CNN is saying, that's what the view is saying, 608 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 16: and so as it is beyond ridiculous. 609 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 5: Thinika. 610 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 16: Look, I think I have some skin the game on 611 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 16: this thing. Okay, I'm a Jewish man. I kind of 612 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 16: know what. 613 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 5: I have a pretty good Nazi radar. Okay, I know 614 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 5: what a Nazi is and what is that Nazi. 615 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 16: I've called him out. I've called him out on this show. 616 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 16: I've called him out of my personal life and other shows. Okay, look, 617 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 16: I don't want to pull the You know, I've got 618 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 16: Jewish friends card who know Elon. But I've got Jewish 619 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 16: friends who know Elon. Sorry I had to drop that 620 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 16: they know him. Well, Okay, the man is not a Nazi. 621 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 16: In fact, he's Pilo Semitic. Ben Shapiro went to Auschwitz 622 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 16: with Elon Musk and the latter gave a speech against 623 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 16: anty Semitism. Now, the question is not whether or not 624 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 16: he is a Nazi, because that's a dumb, stupid argument. 625 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm not gonna indulge you any longer. The question 626 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 5: is why why are they doing this? 627 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 16: Well, look like racism Nazi is the last resort when 628 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 16: you have nothing else to say, all your policies have 629 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 16: clearly failed. It's the Nazi life boat they have to 630 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 16: cling to as. 631 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 5: A last resort. 632 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 16: For maybe as a hail Mary pass, we can do 633 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 16: something to move momentum back to us, we'll attack. It 634 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 16: didn't work with Donald Trump, he won the election. We 635 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 16: got to move on to something else. So let's go 636 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 16: to Elon Musk. That's what's happening here. Look, Chris Murphy 637 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 16: was talking to Elistafanik in Congress, and Chris Murphy asked her, 638 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 16: you know, by the way, rule number one, when you 639 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 16: were a lawyer talking and this is obviously not a 640 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 16: legal courtroom, but rule number one, you're a lawyer talking 641 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 16: to a witness. 642 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 5: So much what we see in Congress, they're talking to witnesses. 643 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 16: If you don't ask a question, you don't know how 644 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 16: the person is going to answer. So when Chris Murphy 645 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 16: asked her the question about the Nazi salute, again not 646 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 16: asking her, it should be dumb enough if he did it, 647 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 16: but a saying that he was doing a naz salute. 648 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 5: He got demolished and stream rolled by. 649 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 16: At Leista Panic, who, by the way, has a little 650 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,280 Speaker 16: bit of credibility on this because she is the poster 651 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 16: girl when when the Hamas protesters, the Hamas supporters were 652 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 16: attacking Jews, she was the person who called out the 653 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 16: presidents of a number of different schools and she just 654 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 16: ran right over him. And then then you've got the 655 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 16: other part of the left, like AOC calling this out. AOC, 656 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 16: you won't call out Hamas who slaughtered thousands of Jews 657 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 16: today in not fifty or one hundred years ago. Today 658 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 16: they are killing and slaughtering Jews. 659 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 5: You'll call them out. 660 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 16: You won't call out the new neo Dazis, but you'll 661 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 16: call out some fake playbook about calling someone. 662 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 5: Who is pro Trump an old neo Nazi. It's ridiculous, 663 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 5: sick of it. Don't want to talk about anymore. Let's 664 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 5: move on. 665 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 2: I totally agree. The hypocrisy is astounding. Now all right, 666 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 2: let's move on, army, because finally America First is back. 667 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 2: The Trump administration is adopting a one flag only policy. 668 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 2: Blocking US embassy is an outposts from flying Pride and 669 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 2: Black lives matter, flags, army, it stars and stripes all 670 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: the way. 671 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 16: Again, I don't know how this is a controversy. Okay, right, 672 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 16: I don't know why this is crazy. Why are you 673 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 16: calling out and having an issue with the American. 674 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 5: Flag being the only flag you're allowed to fight? 675 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 16: The flag, by the way, which color covers justice and 676 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 16: liberty and democracy for everyone. Okay, look quick, little little anecdote, 677 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 16: if you will indulge me, Dadia for a moment. So 678 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 16: my coffee shop cross the street fro where I live, 679 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 16: love very much, but like most coffee shops, most barista's 680 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 16: very left wing. Don't know why they end up wanting 681 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 16: to work coffee shops, but they do. 682 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 5: I'm sure you know about that as well. 683 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 16: And they during Pride Month they are always fly actually, 684 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 16: actually they put the Pride flag all year long, not 685 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 16: just during Pride Month, which is totally there. They're able 686 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 16: to do that. I got an issue with that. And 687 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 16: on June teenth they actually fly the Juneteenth flag. Didn't 688 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 16: know there was a Juneteenth flag. I learned my coffee 689 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 16: shop there was one. Okay, fine, go ahead and do 690 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 16: that as well. You know what, they don't fly on 691 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 16: July fourth, on July. 692 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 5: Fourth, the day of Independence. They don't fly the American flag. Okay. 693 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 16: When I asked them why aren't they why aren't you 694 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 16: flying the American flag today? 695 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 5: They said, what are you some kind of racist? That 696 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 5: was their response. 697 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 16: Look, this is not just anti Americanism, right, which it is. 698 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 16: It's also a level of self hatred. Right, that's really 699 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 16: what if you will, I don't if you want to 700 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 16: be if I want to put them my psychologists couch, right, 701 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 16: I'm a psychologist. I just play one on Sky News Australia. 702 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 5: But that's what it is. It's self hatred. 703 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 16: And you know, I find it so despicable that the 704 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 16: Biden administration, which of course said you can fly different 705 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 16: kind of flags, and specifically said, right, the Biden administration 706 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 16: specifically said to US embassies you could fly the BLM flag, 707 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 16: the BLF flag, which is responsible for destroying over five 708 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 16: billion dollars in property across America, responsible for dozens of 709 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 16: deaths Danica, including police officers. 710 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 5: But that was okay, okay. 711 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,919 Speaker 16: But now we have a new president and there's hey, 712 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 16: you know what, it's moral cleanup in Aisle five please, 713 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 16: and that's what this president is doing. 714 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,359 Speaker 2: Look absolutely and It's about time for sure. Now, Look, 715 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 2: the Pentagon will begin deploying as many as fifteen hundred 716 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 2: active duty troops to help secure the southern border in 717 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: coming days, putting in motion President Donald Trump's plans to 718 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 2: crack down on immigration. And it remains to be seen 719 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 2: if they'll end up doing law enforcement there, but army. 720 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 2: I mean, this was a mandate that Trump was elected 721 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: on to crack down on immigration. So how important is 722 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 2: it that this next administration actually succeeds in doing so? 723 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it could be more important. 724 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 16: I mean, this is this is why this administration won, right, 725 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 16: It won on the economy number one, and a close 726 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 16: number two was immigration. When you let millions of people 727 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 16: in this country, there's going to be a price to pay. 728 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,919 Speaker 16: And the prey was the price was this administration lose 729 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 16: the election and Donald Trump winning. Let me see you 730 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 16: recognize this person this quote? Yeah, there's nothing else I 731 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,359 Speaker 16: can do within my power to secure the border. Now 732 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 16: you may not recognize the person. I wasn't I wasn't 733 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 16: swallowing my words, right, I wasn't dribbling from my mouth. 734 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 16: But there's a SENTI what Joe Biden said when asked 735 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,280 Speaker 16: why you're not securing the border. 736 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 5: Look, it was obviously we now know it was all 737 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,879 Speaker 5: within his power because we had the next president doing it. 738 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 16: He could have put troops to the border. He chose 739 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 16: not to do it, right, He could have hit all 740 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 16: he wants behind. I don't have the executive power to 741 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 16: do it, as we all know he did. He could 742 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 16: have done all the thing that Trump is doing. He 743 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 16: could have had deportations with Trump is now going to 744 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 16: begin to do. He could have built, could have continue 745 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,399 Speaker 16: to build the wall, which he's stopped doing, which now 746 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 16: Trump will complete. And more importantly, Botherly than all of 747 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 16: these things, even even the soldiers of the border, even 748 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 16: more important is remain in Mexico. That was the number 749 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 16: one tool that the Trump administration used to stem the tide, 750 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 16: telling Mexico, these people will stay on your side of 751 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 16: the border, and then we'll vet them as they come through. 752 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 16: That's what's going on today right now. The troops aren't 753 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 16: as necessary because of that one policy that the Biden 754 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 16: administration decided to flip on. Okay, this is ridiculous, and 755 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 16: now we're showing this is why Biden lost exactly on 756 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 16: this issue. 757 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's stop clearout now, isn't it now? This 758 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: is interesting, Army, because conservatism is making a comeback. There 759 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 2: are reports that liberal parents are now the ones actually 760 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,200 Speaker 2: clashing with their conservative sons. After the election, we know 761 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 2: that Trump gained significant ground with the youth vote and 762 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 2: one fifty three percent of men aged eighteen to forty four, Armie, 763 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 2: why do you think that Trump appeals to gen Z 764 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 2: so much? 765 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 16: Yeah, the truth is, I don't know, and nobody really knows. Right, 766 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 16: this is actually a quirk in demographics. We all thought 767 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 16: that the young vote was going to go to Joe Biden. 768 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 16: It was trending that way for a very long time, 769 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 16: and there seems to be like we're going to be 770 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 16: saved by gen Z. I know, we kept looking at 771 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 16: gend saying who are you people? But the truth is 772 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 16: gen Z, particularly gen Z mails, are ones who may 773 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 16: for a long time keep us demographic alive for the 774 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 16: Republican Party. I find Oh, it is so delicious to 775 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 16: watch parents get upset to their kids about their politics. Look, 776 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 16: there's always this debate of nature versus nurture, and I've 777 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 16: always said that if you if you have kids, you 778 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 16: know that nature wins nurture. 779 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 5: Loses. 780 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 16: Nature is always the number one issue when it comes 781 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 16: to what a kid is like. And those parents who 782 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 16: are pushing this democratic liberal dogma on their kids for 783 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 16: all these years, he's learned a hard lesson on how 784 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 16: it works with life. And yeah, apparently the kids and 785 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 16: this this kind of boomerang that was an Australian term. 786 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 5: I think I just used what they thought. 787 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 16: This boomerang is now happening with gen Z and I'm 788 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 16: here for it. 789 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 5: I love it. I love it too. 790 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 3: It is an Aussie term and your spot on it's 791 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: so good. 792 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,359 Speaker 2: That the younger generation now sponges and wanting to learn. Now, 793 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 2: speaking of the younger generation, Baron Trump appears to be 794 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: following in his father Donald Trump's footsteps. He's preparing to 795 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 2: launch a luxury real estate venture with two young business partners. 796 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 3: I feel like Baron is. 797 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 2: Really the success story out of this election. He helped 798 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 2: his father, got him onto those podcasts like Joe Rogan. 799 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 2: But you can say that this is a young entrepreneur. 800 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 2: How big of a future do you think he's got now? 801 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 5: He's a comer, no question about it. 802 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 16: I mean, look, frankly, all of Trump's kids are you 803 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 16: want to talk about how somebody can raise children and 804 00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 16: you see who your children are a. 805 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 5: Reflection of you. 806 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 16: Look at his kids, look at not just the kids, 807 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 16: but who they married. Also, it's a wonderful family. This 808 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 16: is a family who's going to make a difference. I 809 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 16: think they're all going to get involved in business of politics, 810 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 16: no question about it. I think that it's a reflection 811 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 16: on the president, reflection on his ex wife and his 812 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 16: current wife and how they raise his kids. They're wonderful kids. 813 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 16: I've had a chance to meet a number of them. 814 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 16: They're great, they're smart, and yeah, I think it's wonderful. 815 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, a big, bright future ahead for Baron. But you're right, 816 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 2: the rest of them are just as impressive. Ami Horowitz, good. 817 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 3: To see you. Thanks very much for joining me on 818 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 3: the show this evening. 819 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 5: Always a pleasure. 820 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 3: Still to come. 821 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: Prince Harry has seconded his lawsuit with the sun Kinsey 822 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 2: Starfield joins me next with the detail, Well, it's still 823 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: getting messier and messier in it ends with us feud 824 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 2: between co stars Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. 825 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 3: Lively and her husband Ryan Reynolds want. 826 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 2: A judge to gag Baldoni's lawyer claiming he's making false 827 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 2: statements about the case. Joining me now is Entertainment and 828 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: Royal reporter Kinsey Schofield. Kinsey, thanks for joining me. What 829 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 2: is the couple claiming? 830 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 12: Now, you're not kidding when you say this is getting 831 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 12: mess here the author of that book deleting her Instagram account, 832 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 12: Another who plays Baldoni's sister in the film being harassed 833 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 12: online for siting with Blake today. What's going on is Blake, 834 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 12: Lively and Ryan Reynolds asking a judge to gag Justin 835 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 12: Baldoni's lawyer, claiming he's making false statements about the case. 836 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 12: They filed a letter in court on Tuesday, and in 837 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 12: it they asked the court to issue a protective order 838 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 12: to stop him from talking. 839 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 3: They believe that it's a. 840 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 12: Continuation of the smear campaign that Blake initially claims happened 841 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 12: while they were promoting the film. 842 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 2: Wow, okay, I feel like every day there's something different, 843 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 2: which is such a shame because it's detracted so much 844 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: from the movie. But this is not going away anytime soon, 845 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: I don't think, Kinsey. Now, let's talk about the inauguration outfit, 846 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: the one everyone is talking about, worn by Lauren Sanchez, 847 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 2: the fiance of Amazon billionaire Jeffrey Bezos, a blazer with 848 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: Laurne Gerray underneath at the inauguration. Now, Sanchez has started 849 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 2: to clap back at some of the haters. 850 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 3: Kinsey, what has she said? 851 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 12: Well, I mean, I do she's trying to have a 852 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 12: good attitude about it. You know, Whitney Cummings went at 853 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 12: her talking about how cheap she looked in the lease, 854 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 12: and not only did Laura and Sanchez like it, but 855 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 12: she left a heart. I don't know if she's killing 856 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,799 Speaker 12: people with kindness and that's how she's trying to navigate this. 857 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,120 Speaker 12: But I you know, I think that she's trying to 858 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 12: take it as best as she can. 859 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,240 Speaker 7: I don't I. 860 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 12: Imagine she knew what reaction she was going to get 861 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 12: when she walked in with her Victoria's Secrets brush showing. 862 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what else she thought was going to 863 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 3: have it. 864 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she knew exactly what she was going 865 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 2: to do if she's going to wear an outfit like that. 866 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, maybe she is killing people with kindness, But gosh, 867 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: it's been the talk of the internet. 868 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 3: Now let's talk about Prince Harry. 869 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 2: He has settled his lawsuit with the son's publisher over 870 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,360 Speaker 2: claims of unlawful information gathering between nineteen ninety six to 871 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 2: twenty eleven. Kinsey, what was this over and what was 872 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 2: the agreed outcome? 873 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean this was a win for Prince Harry. 874 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 12: Today the son issued a rare apology for years of 875 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 12: intrusions into his private life and agreed to pay a 876 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 12: substantial and damages to settle this lawsuit in court. Harry's 877 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 12: lawyer at a statement from Newsgroup Newspapers offering a full 878 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 12: apology to Harry for the serious privacy violations committed by 879 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 12: the son between nineteen ninety six through twenty eleven. And 880 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 12: this statement extended beyond the case itself, acknowledging that Princess Diana, 881 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 12: Harry's late mother, also was affected by some of these 882 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 12: privacy invasions. So I've heard personally that Megan has encouraged 883 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 12: him to settle these forever. She feels like this is 884 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 12: the only way for them to move forward. I imagine 885 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 12: they're both very happy in Montecito today. 886 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, they probably have. I just find it hypocritical. 887 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 2: I mean, Harry's the one that always wants privacy. It 888 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 2: always fills the beans on the Royal family. I can 889 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 2: just never figure that guy out now. Also speaking of 890 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 2: Prince Harry, he has posed for photographs with a fire 891 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 2: service therapy dogs who have been helping cruise and residents 892 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,280 Speaker 2: impacted by the California wildfires. 893 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 3: Kinsey, what's he been doing. 894 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 12: You know, posing for photos. I'm sure that he means well, 895 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 12: But to quote Justin Beiateman today on Pierce Morgan, I 896 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 12: don't know who these people are. 897 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,120 Speaker 3: I don't know. 898 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 12: Why they were there walking on possible human remains. Maybe 899 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 12: they mean well, but what the heck are they doing there? 900 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 3: Now? 901 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 2: Look, I agree, and I mean it goes to the 902 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 2: fact that both he and Megan pose for the photo 903 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 2: opportunities right after the California fires when they were hugging people. 904 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,319 Speaker 2: I feel like he only makes these public appearances when 905 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: there's cameras and photographs in the room. Otherwise you never 906 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 2: hear from him at all. So I just find it 907 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 2: all very unusual now, Kinsey. King Charles has privately congratulated 908 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 2: Donald Trump on his inauguration. 909 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 3: What has he said. 910 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 12: Well, he talked about the enduring special relationship between the 911 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 12: UK and the US, and this was confirmed by Bucky 912 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 12: him Palace. But did you know that Milania and King 913 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 12: Charles have been pen pals four years? I loved I 914 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 12: don't know why I love that information so much, but 915 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 12: I just think that is. 916 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,839 Speaker 3: The sweetest thing. 917 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 12: So I'm not surprised that the King reached out to 918 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 12: President Trump. You know, I do believe that there is 919 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 12: a loving relationship between the families minus Prince Arian Megan Markle, 920 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 12: but you know, they should probably be concerned about that. 921 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 12: But yeah, I thought that that was super sweet of 922 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 12: the King. But I'm not surprised knowing that he hand 923 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 12: writes letters back and forth to our new first Lady 924 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,240 Speaker 12: Milania Trump. 925 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 2: I just think that is so special and so beautiful. 926 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 2: And to be honest, Kinsey, I'm actually not surprised because 927 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,839 Speaker 2: King Charles is so traditional by the way he communicates, 928 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,279 Speaker 2: so probably sitting writing a letter means so much to him, 929 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 2: and I've got to say I really appreciate that. But 930 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 2: how sweets that they're pen pals. I think that's lovely, 931 00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 2: Kinsey Schofield, good to see you. Thank you very much 932 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 2: for me on the program this evening. Well that's it 933 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 2: for me. 934 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 3: Up next is Newsnight. Good Night,