WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 8 September

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>so much for watching. Welcome to a big Sunday night

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<v Speaker 1>out of a massive week of Paul Murray Lives. We've

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<v Speaker 1>got an awful lot happening in federal politics, state, local,

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<v Speaker 1>the international stuff. But first, so many polls tonight and

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<v Speaker 1>detail you haven't heard anywhere else. Our I'll made grim

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<v Speaker 1>Jim the great passenger of the Australian economy. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a difference between a windsock and the pilot

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<v Speaker 1>of a plane. Which one would you actually give the

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<v Speaker 1>trust over to? Probably not the wind sock, but that

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<v Speaker 1>of course is grim Jim. He's the ones that will

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<v Speaker 1>I feel your pain, a little bit up, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit down, but always I deserve congratulations. Last week the

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<v Speaker 1>disgraceful display of trying to change the subject for their

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<v Speaker 1>own failure as politicians and members and guardians of our

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<v Speaker 1>own society when he was bashing away at the Reserve Bank.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this worked with Philip Loow, it won't work a

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<v Speaker 1>second time around. Even the former Treasurer and old Grim

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<v Speaker 1>Jim's former boss, Wayne Swan got in on it, and

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<v Speaker 1>quite correctly, the odds referred to that as a coward

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<v Speaker 1>punch to the RBA head. The RBA has been in

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<v Speaker 1>the sights of the government because if there is a

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<v Speaker 1>thirteenth interes straight rise, supposedly that will be the tipping point.

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<v Speaker 1>My belief is politically of cost of living matters. The twelfth,

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<v Speaker 1>the eleventh, the tenth and ninth, the eighth have all

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<v Speaker 1>put the Prime Minister and the Labor Party on very

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<v Speaker 1>serious notice, if not right at the end of the plank.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was the Labor Party trying to change the subject.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the media following along.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the combination of global economic uncertainty and higher interest

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<v Speaker 2>rates is smashing household budgets and slowing our economy considerably.

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<v Speaker 3>Treasurer's comments were absolutely nothing new.

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<v Speaker 4>The Reserve Bank is putting economic dogma over rational economic

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<v Speaker 4>decision making, hammering households, hammering mums and dads with rates,

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<v Speaker 4>causing a collapse in spending and driving the economy backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>But God love Australia, God love the fellow normal people

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<v Speaker 1>of this joint Because well, I don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen in an election. We needed to send a message,

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<v Speaker 1>the message that we have been relentless about and at

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<v Speaker 1>times feeling like a little bit of a loan soldier.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the past two and a bit years, we knew

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<v Speaker 1>about cost of living being major, and we knew that

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<v Speaker 1>inflation was out of control. We knew inflation was out

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<v Speaker 1>of control in part because of the actions of this government.

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<v Speaker 1>Well polar dropped tonight has shown that the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>Australians blame the government and its treasure of Grimjim Chalmers,

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<v Speaker 1>not the Reserve Bank. Have a look. This comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the far right wing annals of the Channel nine newspapers.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty one percent of all voters say, in relation to

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<v Speaker 1>the question of who do you think has greatest responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>for ki inflation down? The government fifty one percent. For

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<v Speaker 1>labor voters the majority of them, forty two percent say

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<v Speaker 1>the government. For Coalition voters the majority by a mile,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three percent say the government. For other voters everything

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<v Speaker 1>from the touchy teals all the way through to One

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<v Speaker 1>Nation and UAP and anything else in between. Forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>percent uncommitted undecided voters again about fifty percent at forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine and the seats that matter the most fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>You see one of the ways that we have slowly

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<v Speaker 1>but surely sort of got to where we've got about

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<v Speaker 1>how I do this show each and every night for

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<v Speaker 1>you is, yes, we have to talk about the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that is obviously larger than news. Yes we have to

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<v Speaker 1>point out some of the things that we think are

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<v Speaker 1>examples of people pulling the wool over your eyes. And

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes we're relentless on a particular topic because it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like the topic that should be the total absolute ram

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<v Speaker 1>ram ram focus. Well, there's an entire industry of people

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<v Speaker 1>who want to protect this government, protect its electoral chances,

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<v Speaker 1>that want to change the subject. Now, obviously to people

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<v Speaker 1>in the government want to change the subject, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>incredible how many people in the media are more than

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<v Speaker 1>happy to try to change the subject because they don't

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<v Speaker 1>experience the cost of living issues that you do. And

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<v Speaker 1>even if they are feeling a little tougher than they

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<v Speaker 1>did a little while ago, you couldn't possibly get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of the greatest government of all time. I mean, after all,

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<v Speaker 1>these were the people who almost sixty percent of Australians,

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<v Speaker 1>according to a poll in the Sorry a Redbridge Pole

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<v Speaker 1>My Apologies, said they couldn't name one thing this government

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<v Speaker 1>has done to make their life better. Almost sixty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people. Now, let's slow down, let's have a look

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<v Speaker 1>at again more of these numbers, because again, all of

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<v Speaker 1>this will be brushed away. There will be some dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>change of the subject that'll happen between now and when

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<v Speaker 1>the sun comes up. Will be I mean, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe today. Oh there's an ad attacking Peter Dutton. Who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares? That's the Labor Party trying to change the subject.

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<v Speaker 1>And just on that nuclear thing. Oh, six hundred billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>This mob, according to the CSIRO, want to spend a

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<v Speaker 1>trillion dollars on changing the power system. So just don't

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<v Speaker 1>fall for it. Let the lefties do it, not us.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we continue when I say us, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>this program. Now, interesting here again about the cost of

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<v Speaker 1>living low? Keeping cost of living low? You can tell

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know my glasses. The Liberal Party leads the

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Party by seven points. Now, remember what was the

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<v Speaker 1>promise of the last election, I'll vote Labor everything goes down. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>now that's gone. It's how the Libs, who most people believe,

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation. However, there's a significant number of undecided people.

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<v Speaker 1>That's because they know that the Labor Party. So called

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<v Speaker 1>solutions aren't good enough, but the Liberal Party has not

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<v Speaker 1>put enough solutions on the table. They need to start

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<v Speaker 1>doing it to actually convert people from sort of ah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not all that into it, to actually fully making

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<v Speaker 1>the change and being willing to change the government. Now again,

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<v Speaker 1>all the evidence is this is not a one term government,

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<v Speaker 1>but it could be. It could be if some of

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<v Speaker 1>these other numbers are true. When it comes to overall

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<v Speaker 1>economic management, you can see thirty seven to twenty six,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven point lead for the Liberals right now managing the

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<v Speaker 1>finances of the government again, an eleven point lead of

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<v Speaker 1>a Liberal party over the Labor Party. Things had been

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<v Speaker 1>cracking for a while, They have been crumbling for the

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<v Speaker 1>past a little while, and im plice to say people

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<v Speaker 1>are now willing to tell a polster, and that polster

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<v Speaker 1>presumably will tell a politician. Meantime, of course, all of

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<v Speaker 1>these poles and they've been relentless, and they've been this

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<v Speaker 1>way since well kind of back half of last year

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<v Speaker 1>for now like a full year. The government's been not

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<v Speaker 1>a great place when it comes to the polls. Billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars that they have decided to take for me

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<v Speaker 1>Australian Treasury, I e. Your tax dollars to turn around

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<v Speaker 1>and buy campaign slogans going into an election. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister was at the mcg. He was there on

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<v Speaker 1>Friday night as the Hawks we're playing the Western Bulldogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he is despite the fact that he's from Sydney,

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<v Speaker 1>in sort of inner Sydney. He ended up in the

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<v Speaker 1>rooms in the sheds. He is apparently a hardcore Hawks fan.

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<v Speaker 1>But some people are calling them out and world done

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<v Speaker 1>Brownie for doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, because I feel like the Prime Minister this is

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<v Speaker 3>for the good of himself going into the Hawthorn rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>This sickens me.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony alb He's had a look at the pole all over.

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<v Speaker 3>Peter Dunton is closing and he's in front. There's a gap.

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<v Speaker 3>He feels like I need to look like a common man.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go into the Hawthorn rooms. Give it

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<v Speaker 3>up elbow now AND's buying it now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whether he's taking the pits or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is this guy's desperate to be associated

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<v Speaker 1>with anything, be more popular. You see, he used to

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<v Speaker 1>think that people wanted to come to him. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think you get a little bit of the gold dust

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<v Speaker 1>off your shoulders. Now he's desperately please, may I have

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<v Speaker 1>some more like oliver Us? Trying to get a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of start us from anyone more popular than him. And

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<v Speaker 1>again same pole. Channel nine newspapers, Channel nine TV network

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<v Speaker 1>have a look the Labour Party since the election. Their

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<v Speaker 1>primary voters down five points. That's huge. That would mean

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<v Speaker 1>that they are going to lose seats, and they would

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<v Speaker 1>lose seats to the Greens. Now, it is important to

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<v Speaker 1>note that the Liberal National Party yes way in front

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<v Speaker 1>best part of what nine points, there's still a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of points short of forty and that's where they can

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<v Speaker 1>actually win an election, which is why we keep talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a minority election so much at the moment. The

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<v Speaker 1>AFR they had another poll as well. This one was

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<v Speaker 1>the Redbridge survey which appeared in the Financial Review. It

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<v Speaker 1>says that it's going to again be a minority situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But interestingly, how many times have we sat here gone

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<v Speaker 1>through the polls together, taken the time to do so

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<v Speaker 1>over many minutes? And the reason I do this is

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<v Speaker 1>we're not just of bouncing through the headlines. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>doing what they do on Twitter. Well, read the headline

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<v Speaker 1>and nothing. We're going to get into the detail. Get

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<v Speaker 1>into it because I know you're interested, you can handle it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you like it. Because when we have

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<v Speaker 1>the information, we can win an argument. When you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the information, when you don't have the data, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're not able to have even a lead to stand

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<v Speaker 1>on sometimes in an argument. Now again, the people who've said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a one term government, I understand why they say,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand the hopeful thinking behind it, and wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>it be amazing. However, the reality of the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 1>getting to seventy six seats or even get into a

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<v Speaker 1>position where they could start to form a minority government

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<v Speaker 1>is unlikely if the Teals are all re elected. Now again,

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<v Speaker 1>according to this pole, Now, this was a different pole.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not your classic sort of one thousand to

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred people. This was thousands of people and a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of other data like census data, ABS data,

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<v Speaker 1>demographic data, population data, so all those people who moved

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<v Speaker 1>from Victoria to southeast Queensland, all of that is part

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<v Speaker 1>of their analysis. It's really interesting. These sorts of poles

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<v Speaker 1>are used heavily in the United Kingdom and they're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>damn good. So let's have a look here. If an

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<v Speaker 1>election was held now, the Coalition would win the seats

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<v Speaker 1>of Gilmore and Patterson in New South Wales. They would

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<v Speaker 1>win Lingiari that is the seat around Alice Springs in

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<v Speaker 1>the Northern Territory Lions in Tasmania, meaning that they would

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<v Speaker 1>have two of the seats there. They've already got Bass.

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<v Speaker 1>They I think could also push on Braden, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>they would also be competitive in the Teal seats of Goldstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to say I thought Zoey Daniel was

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<v Speaker 1>not moving, but according to this sort of analysis, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a chance, aren't they chance? And over in Western Australia

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<v Speaker 1>the only teal they're curtain. In more detail, let's imagine

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<v Speaker 1>their data is correct. We have an election seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>seats to form a majority government. Anything less than that

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<v Speaker 1>is the beginning of chaos. The lower the number is

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<v Speaker 1>behind seventy six, the higher the sense of chaos, because

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<v Speaker 1>the number of people you've got to go to on

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<v Speaker 1>the cross benches. The government would go from seventy eight

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<v Speaker 1>seats down two sixty four. The Liberal Party would go

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<v Speaker 1>substantially up to fifty three, but fifty three is still

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<v Speaker 1>a long way away. To give you an idea of

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<v Speaker 1>what might happen here, the Coalition could win two seats

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<v Speaker 1>Taal seats in the inner city, three in the middle suburbs,

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<v Speaker 1>three in the outer suburbs, two in provincial areas, and

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<v Speaker 1>one in rural areas. Now again you can see here

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<v Speaker 1>the Labor may pick up an inner city seat may

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<v Speaker 1>but other than that they lose in all of those

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<v Speaker 1>other areas. This would be a major change. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between that number of what sixty four seats and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy six seats fifty five three and seventy six seats

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<v Speaker 1>or sixty five seats sixty seven and sort of both

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<v Speaker 1>of them were there As many as fourteen seats are

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<v Speaker 1>considered too close to call. These include Casey, Bruce, McEwen,

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<v Speaker 1>Chisholm and Ryan in Brisbane, Tangy in Perth. Now, those

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<v Speaker 1>would be mostly Labor seats that would end up going

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<v Speaker 1>across to the coalition. However, however, before you start doing

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<v Speaker 1>the numbers in your head, or if they can get

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<v Speaker 1>to the same number as Labor, then well, of course

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<v Speaker 1>the left wing teels are going to back Labor. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to back the Libs. The Greens are going

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<v Speaker 1>to back Labor, not the Libs, and presumably once the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the cross Bench starts to go in one direction,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you end up with the chaos. Parliament led

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<v Speaker 1>by the Prime Minister is sort of the court Jesta.

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<v Speaker 1>Here Kauper on the North Coast currently a National seat,

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<v Speaker 1>it could disappear and go either or most likely independent,

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of version of in and around that part

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<v Speaker 1>of the world. You could end up with some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of independent candidate there who's not a teal, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feeding in one sort of a roboak shot one. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>we told you Danteen's seat because he's gone hard when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to immigration. There is a chance that a

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<v Speaker 1>male teal this time, but a teal wearing orange but

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<v Speaker 1>still basically the same thing might be there. So all

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<v Speaker 1>of is fascinating, absolutely fascinating what the details are. And

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<v Speaker 1>just to round it out, despite the fact that these

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<v Speaker 1>people have bullied the head of the Reserve Bank, despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that if it was a liberal it would

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<v Speaker 1>be called all sorts of sexist things. But because it's labor, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just rubbish right. Inflation and Australia must be between

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<v Speaker 1>two and three percent. In order for that to be

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<v Speaker 1>the target range four all of the people started an

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<v Speaker 1>eye the economists at both Treasury and the Reserve Banks.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where the sweet spot is for the Australian economy.

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<v Speaker 1>We are close to four percent and we are three percent,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why interest rates remain as high as they

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<v Speaker 1>do with a chance of going even further above. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what we are facing right now. So again same Polster,

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<v Speaker 1>but this time interpreted by are the News Limited papers

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<v Speaker 1>over the weekend. Number one issue country mile cost of living,

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<v Speaker 1>cost of living at sixty two percent, housing not even

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<v Speaker 1>half of it the economy in general. Once you put

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<v Speaker 1>those two together, well, of course that is the number

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<v Speaker 1>one issue. Then healthcare, crime, climate change, all the money,

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<v Speaker 1>all the attention. Well, if the last election was the

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<v Speaker 1>climate change election, this one's going to be the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of living election. And if it is the cost election,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a very good chance the government is about to

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<v Speaker 1>get a size nine fair in the backside, definitely taking

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<v Speaker 1>them out of a majority. Potentially maybe on a good day,

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<v Speaker 1>something even worse than that. But it is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fun three years with the idiots in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of the asylum. You can decide whether that is

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<v Speaker 1>the cross bench or the major Party that they will

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<v Speaker 1>be propping up most likely with labor huge other issue

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<v Speaker 1>that is playing right now. Many seats in Western Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>Labor Party won four at the last election, a huge

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<v Speaker 1>all four of those could end up tumbling as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the Teal seat over one issue in particular. When

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<v Speaker 1>we were in Wa last week, I had so many

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<v Speaker 1>conversations about the government's decision to turn the tap off

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<v Speaker 1>on the live sheep industry. Now this industry, think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>The people who breed the sheep, take care of the sheep,

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<v Speaker 1>the vets that take care of them, the transporters, the

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<v Speaker 1>people loading them onto the ships, the docks, the checkers,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that. There's so many jobs associated with all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. Yet, because the Labor Party can never walk

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<v Speaker 1>away from an idea if they have an idea, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a sticking bad idea like the live export ban

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<v Speaker 1>that Julia Gillard put in place the day after animal

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<v Speaker 1>rights footage was aired on the ABC, not about what

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<v Speaker 1>was happening in Australia, but what was happening in Indonesia.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that entire industry bank turned off the entire north

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<v Speaker 1>of the country outraged. Well, they couldn't possibly repeat that

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<v Speaker 1>because they're afraid of losing those seats in the Northern territory.

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<v Speaker 1>Maths matters right now. But the assumption was, Oh, we're

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<v Speaker 1>so amazing, We're signing the arms of former labor staffers

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<v Speaker 1>to convince people that we're not changing the GST. So wa,

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<v Speaker 1>it only cares about the GST. Well guess what. It

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<v Speaker 1>also cares about this, and there is a huge effort

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<v Speaker 1>as we speak. There are trucks that are leaving Western

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<v Speaker 1>Australia that will make it through South Australia, that'll come

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<v Speaker 1>up through New South Wales and then bang into Canberra.

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<v Speaker 1>They are planning to do so on Tuesday. To make

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<v Speaker 1>it very clear how pissed off these people are. Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Seabrook we spoke to him ahead of the Bush Summit

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<v Speaker 1>in Port Headland last week. He's on the Pastoralists Association,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the groups behind this, and if he's barking

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<v Speaker 1>mad and annoyed about it, imagine what everyone else is.

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<v Speaker 1>But how articulate it is this bloke. If this bloke

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<v Speaker 1>ever put his hand up to run for anything, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>go and let a box for him. How good is

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<v Speaker 1>this blow? I think they're going to be very, very worried.

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<v Speaker 1>We know the seats, we know where the week spots are.

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<v Speaker 5>There's going to be a huge protest in Canberra on

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<v Speaker 5>the tenth.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of farmers West Australia going over there, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sport maver East.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to rock therebout well the tenth Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday in Canberra, there's going to be this huge protest.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've been talking about this issue for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been talking Tony for a long time. Will again

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<v Speaker 1>talk to some people in and around the rally as

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<v Speaker 1>it makes its way to Canberra and then after what

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<v Speaker 1>takes place on Tuesday. But this thing is so big

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<v Speaker 1>that even the person who represents the richest seat in

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<v Speaker 1>Western Australia, a place that among others, takes in Coddoslow,

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<v Speaker 1>the beautiful Cotdislow Beach, all of that area that's about

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<v Speaker 1>what an hour above of Fremantle. This used to be

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<v Speaker 1>July Bishop territory. Well, even the teal has turned around

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<v Speaker 1>and changed her mind. She was with the ban the

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<v Speaker 1>live export thing. She knows how full on this could be.

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<v Speaker 1>So even the Teal changed her mind and backs people

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<v Speaker 1>like Tony. So I want you to go to a website,

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<v Speaker 1>Keep the Sheep dot com a you Keep the Sheep

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<v Speaker 1>dot com dot Au. When you get there, you will

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<v Speaker 1>see a petition. Hit the button to take you to

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<v Speaker 1>a petition for you to put your name your details in.

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<v Speaker 1>There are eighty one thousand at least signatures. Let's get

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<v Speaker 1>it to one hundred thousand tonight, Keep the Sheep dot

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<v Speaker 1>com dot au. Do you believe the live sheep industry

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<v Speaker 1>has improved itself from fifteen years ago? Hell? Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you trust people like Tony about the welfare of

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<v Speaker 1>the animals, Yes I do. Do you care about everyone

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<v Speaker 1>along the production line here? Yes? I do? Then you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Keep the Sheep dot com dot au. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>the Sheep dot com dot au here is part of

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<v Speaker 1>their social media feed. This is an excellent campaign being

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<v Speaker 1>run beautifully. It's rare to see this stuff and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really matter with you're the center left, center right.

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<v Speaker 1>But they are coalescing around it, and this is as

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<v Speaker 1>professional a job as I've ever seen a community group

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<v Speaker 1>be able to pull up when you're pushing back against lefties.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep the Sheep dot com dot Au. Now, Bruce and

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<v Speaker 1>Denise Morcombe are beautiful people. They should have been the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian of the Year. Instead, the committee decided, of course

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<v Speaker 1>to make Jeffrey Rush the Australian.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there's un Daniel, as we know, kidnapped, murdered. The

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<v Speaker 1>search was horrific all those years ago. They have turned

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<v Speaker 1>all of that heartache into going around schools providing kids

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<v Speaker 1>with warning from about how to be safe. They also

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<v Speaker 1>want a register publicly available of anyone who is a

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<v Speaker 1>sex offender in Queensland today. The promise of the money,

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<v Speaker 1>the promise of the establishment of it, came from the

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<v Speaker 1>man who we fingers cross hope is the next Premier

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<v Speaker 1>of Queensland, David Cruci Foley. So if you care about

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<v Speaker 1>this issue, you've got a side to pick now. This

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<v Speaker 1>is about ensuring that parents are able to keep their

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<v Speaker 1>children away from dangerous predators. Daniel's Law long overdue on

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<v Speaker 1>its way in Queensland should there be a change of

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<v Speaker 1>government around October now. Also, remember last week I told

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<v Speaker 1>you about the scary number of people who end up

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<v Speaker 1>dying on the regional roads of Australia. Now again being

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly honest with you, I'm not going to pretend that

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't gone a little room on some of these roads.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to pretend that in all my life,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done something stupid on the road. Done plenty, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But every now and then there is a particular accident,

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<v Speaker 1>or there's a particular bit of detail or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it reminds you that this is not a toy.

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<v Speaker 1>You can hurt yourself, you can hurt other people. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you can kill yourself or other people as well. We

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<v Speaker 1>told you that the shocking data that showed that it's

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<v Speaker 1>very significant. In fact, more than half of all the

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<v Speaker 1>people who die on the roads, they do so in

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<v Speaker 1>regional areas. So people need to slow down, whether we

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<v Speaker 1>like it or not, whether it's annoying because we can't

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<v Speaker 1>get the thing up to top gear and we can't

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<v Speaker 1>hear the room. We all get it right, slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>Bathist is a race run by other people, not by

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<v Speaker 1>those of us trying to get too Bathists, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why, And you said Walsh, today is announced

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<v Speaker 1>the their new way of trying to bring the road

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<v Speaker 1>toll down. Yes, they'll make revenue out of it, No

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<v Speaker 1>question is for average speed cameras. Now these are currently

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<v Speaker 1>focused on trucks. They will now be turned onto cars.

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<v Speaker 1>So imagine there's one town and two hundred k's up.

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<v Speaker 1>The other end of the road is another town, probably

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<v Speaker 1>not two hundred k's but let's imagine liftgo on the

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<v Speaker 1>other side of the Blue Mountains trying to make your

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<v Speaker 1>way to Bathist to go and watch the Bathist races. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's an average speed camera there that would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to work out. You go through it at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go through the second one at another time,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it's anything over the one hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 1>or the average time that's supposed to be there, then bang,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to get booked and you're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>booked for speeding. I don't want to get book for speeding.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to get booked for speeding. So

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<v Speaker 1>no one is warned, but you are going to get

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<v Speaker 1>booked for speeding if you go too fast in between

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<v Speaker 1>point A and point B.

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<v Speaker 5>The difference here between a mobile speed camera and an

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<v Speaker 5>average speed camera is that as you're traveling over say

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<v Speaker 5>fifteen or sixteen kilometers, they'll measure your speed over that

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<v Speaker 5>period rather than simply at a point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now told you last week about all the places that

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<v Speaker 1>are the concern right now in and around bushfires. Bushfire

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<v Speaker 1>season apparently going to be a warm spring, the particular

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<v Speaker 1>focus right western Victoria, Northern Territory, top half of Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we know that as we move into summer, the

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<v Speaker 1>potential places for bushfires, well, it's a lot of differ places. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Inevitably every bushfire is interpreted by the Prime Minister of

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens Twitter, the ABC is everything's about climate change.

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<v Speaker 1>But the truth is that some of the intensity of

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<v Speaker 1>these fires, once they are lit, happens to do with

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<v Speaker 1>what's on the ground, the fuel that is on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>So before there is any major bush fire, before somebody

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<v Speaker 1>turns around and says to say so is a denial

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<v Speaker 1>of climate change. There is a report today that worries me.

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<v Speaker 1>Just last week we had all of the different firebosses

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<v Speaker 1>from the country gathering in Sydney. They did so to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the preparedness for spring. One of the ways

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<v Speaker 1>you can do that is to clear the crap off

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Hazard reduction, all right, I want to use

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<v Speaker 1>all the other terms. Hazard reduction is the one they

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<v Speaker 1>want us to use or use it over and over right. However,

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<v Speaker 1>just forty five percent of the hazard reduction that was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be done in the lead up to this

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<v Speaker 1>fire season has not been done. That's Near South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>The total hazard reduction burns by the Rual Fire Service

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<v Speaker 1>for the period of July one last year to June

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<v Speaker 1>thirty this year was one hundred and thirty nine thousand hectares.

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<v Speaker 1>They were supposed to get on top of three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirteen thousand. Now they'll say there were days it

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<v Speaker 1>was too windy here, there were days it was too wet,

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<v Speaker 1>there were days that was too warm. Seriously, you know

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that the amount that they strive for

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<v Speaker 1>each and every year feels like it gets smaller and smaller.

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<v Speaker 1>So when they failed to live on even smaller targets

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to bigger targets because they didn't meet the

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<v Speaker 1>one last year, you get my point. Hazard reduction so

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<v Speaker 1>vitally important, but greenies hate it. And we all know

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<v Speaker 1>who's sort of in charge of the general conversation. Last year,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, not the twur months just gone with

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<v Speaker 1>the twelve months before that. In New South Wales, they

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<v Speaker 1>completely just twenty eight, twenty eight percent of everything that

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be dealt with off the ground. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do I talk about it because it matters, because it

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<v Speaker 1>could be the difference between life and death for people.

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<v Speaker 1>And yep, it means I'll make the same point over

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<v Speaker 1>and over again until someone starts to listen. Now, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the week that I think we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get our best indication yet about whom is not just

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<v Speaker 1>going to be leading, but most likely going to win,

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<v Speaker 1>between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. Why because the only

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<v Speaker 1>debate is going to be taking place this week Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been showing the bookies for a while. They showed

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<v Speaker 1>Harris up, then they showed Trump up. Now they show

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<v Speaker 1>basically even because they believe that Right now Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>leading in Pennsylvania and Nevada, remember those seven key states. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be able if he can win both of those,

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<v Speaker 1>he wins the election. But see how tight that's starting

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Now. The amount of money in this pool

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<v Speaker 1>is unbelievable. It's millions and millions and millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's big fluctuations starting to happen. Also, I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>of Nate Silver. Now that silver is a dater guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He now works for himself. He used to work for

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<v Speaker 1>thing called five thirty eight ABC News, Okay, that being

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<v Speaker 1>ABC News in the United States. If you read, see

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<v Speaker 1>or hear anyone saying that Trump is leading Harris by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty points, they don't know what Nate Silver does. What

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<v Speaker 1>Nate Silver does is talk about probability of winning. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be winning by one or it could be

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<v Speaker 1>winning by one hundred, but the point is right now

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<v Speaker 1>he sees the race that Kamala Harris came back up

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<v Speaker 1>to where Joe Biden was, which was still remember before

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<v Speaker 1>the debate, last debate, losing to Donald Trump. He believes

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<v Speaker 1>that once you have a look at the polls, you

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<v Speaker 1>have a look at the demographics, you kind of do

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, similar to the polling I spoke about before,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump would end up winning in Arizona, Nevada, he would

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<v Speaker 1>win in Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and a chance of

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<v Speaker 1>taking out the two blue walls, which the book you

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<v Speaker 1>say Harris will win in Michigan and Wisconsin. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>be clear, the debate, I believe is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a full court press of the media to say Harris

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<v Speaker 1>has now finally hit the bar of being presidential. She

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<v Speaker 1>has finally hit the bar of being ready to lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we saw no convention bump. After all those people

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<v Speaker 1>from Oprah to former presidents were saying she's the greatest,

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<v Speaker 1>She's the greatest. The media going nothing happened, nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you will see the media trying to immediately

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<v Speaker 1>build the narrative from the second the debate is over,

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<v Speaker 1>that not that she just didn't win, but she is now.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't ever have to acknowledge him again. Vibes and

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<v Speaker 1>push forward. Now again, we'll all see. If Trump is terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it, we'll show you the result. All

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<v Speaker 1>of this happens Wednesday at eleven am Australi in Eastern time.

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<v Speaker 1>Read a panicky and I will yes do the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of political goggle box thing where we will sit back

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<v Speaker 1>and we will watch it for you. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see to see the two great mates who

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<v Speaker 1>are obsessed with all of this stuff, giggle, laugh and

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<v Speaker 1>poke fun at these people, we shall do. So. You'll

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<v Speaker 1>see it at sky on news dot com dot a

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<v Speaker 1>U high lots at our show Wednesday night. But as

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<v Speaker 1>for what happened today to show their strength and power.

0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Thousands of people turned up in one of those blue

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<v Speaker 1>Wall states, this one in Wisconsin. Again, Democrats supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be leading here, but as far as the eye could see,

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd was there for Donald Trump, and he ripped

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<v Speaker 1>in old school showing he's ready to go for this

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<v Speaker 1>debate Wednesday morning Australian time, Tuesday night in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you can believe it, fifty nine days from now,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to win Wisconsin. We're going to defeat

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<v Speaker 1>Comrade Kamala Harris, and we are going to win the

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<v Speaker 1>White House, that gorgeous, beautiful White House. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>win it. And we're going to turn this country around,

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<v Speaker 1>because this country is a failing nation right now. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a laughing stark all over the world. I love Comrade Kamala. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's the nickname. Let's lock it in. Let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You all know I want Trump to win. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell you the Details's going to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen. I'm going to tell you why.

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<v Speaker 1>You're you going to read all the headlines that have

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<v Speaker 1>already decided before she's the debate that she's won the debate.

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<v Speaker 1>As for Harris, she's doing debate PEP prep in Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that means when she's in between meetings she pops

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<v Speaker 1>out and has these little pre arranged photo things. Why, because,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the room's full of fans or fans know

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 1>she'll be here in an hour, they turn up. She

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get exposed to anything serious. It's all just people

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<v Speaker 1>who love them, giggle and all the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that lady you can see the older lady holding

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<v Speaker 1>up her iPhone, Well, wasn't she buying right into the

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<v Speaker 1>garbage that if Donald Trump gets elected the country will

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<v Speaker 1>fall into a fire pit? Have look at this rubbish.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be fine. We are all in this together,

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<v Speaker 1>Yes we are.

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<v Speaker 7>We're gonna be fun, Yes we are.

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<v Speaker 1>But the giveaway as to why that wasn't quite the

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<v Speaker 1>organic moment that you felt. Kamala Harris made an assumption

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<v Speaker 1>that when you walk up to a person of a

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<v Speaker 1>certain age, you're standing next to her person of a

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<v Speaker 1>certain age, and they're hanging out on the weekend together.

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<v Speaker 1>They might know each other. But the reality was the

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<v Speaker 1>old lady, demographically appropriate, was picked to be one of

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<v Speaker 1>those people that were sort of percutchingly worried about Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>to be consoled by the empty pants suit the young

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<v Speaker 1>gen Za again the future is female. Say they pick

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<v Speaker 1>it all right, and the old lady forgot not to

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<v Speaker 1>say that all of it was fake.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a relative of yours.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you go to a lawyer and it's here, and

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<v Speaker 7>I don't work so much Sheffield.

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<v Speaker 1>Real people, real erosion, real emotions, but not a real moment.

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<v Speaker 1>This was not just a random walking. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>pre plan. There was a setup. You put all the

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<v Speaker 1>demographically appropriate people together, you will assume that they're just

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<v Speaker 1>randomly surging towards see how they do it. Plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>that insight between now and election Day, and plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>We are hearing conversation with none other than the wonderful

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<v Speaker 1>Linda Scott about to finish up her time on the

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<v Speaker 1>City of Sydney Council and her time advocating for local

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<v Speaker 1>government at a national cabinet. She might be slightly excited

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<v Speaker 1>couple weeks ago. CHRISTI Mxsweening, of course, are different from

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<v Speaker 1>the pr Council. She's joining us now as well. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>my dear friend. So I'm gonna start with you first, Christy,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you find most interesting about all of that

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<v Speaker 1>scroll of polling that we talked about before that has

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<v Speaker 1>got been there is Look, lots of parts to minority government,

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<v Speaker 1>not a lot of parts to government for the coalition,

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<v Speaker 1>But jeez, issue after issue, sentiment after sendiment. Albo is

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<v Speaker 1>in a world of trouble and he's already spent billions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars to get to this point.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, momentum is a funny thing in politics, and I

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<v Speaker 6>think the polling is sort of bang on where it

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<v Speaker 6>says fourteen seats are too close to call a too

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<v Speaker 6>close to see a projection this far out. I think

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<v Speaker 6>that there is a chance of the Liberals winning back

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<v Speaker 6>some of the till seats. It won't be all of them.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think there's certainly truth and it does align

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<v Speaker 6>to the strategy that the coalition is progressing win back

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<v Speaker 6>those outer suburban seats on the fringes of our capital cities.

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<v Speaker 6>I will also say this too, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>chat from the East Coast political media because of course

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<v Speaker 6>that is where the media is. I will predict right

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<v Speaker 6>here and now that I think they're going to have

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<v Speaker 6>to learn about Western Australia pretty quickly. We're going to

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<v Speaker 6>go full term to an election after the March eighth

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<v Speaker 6>state election. In Western Australia. There are four seats there

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<v Speaker 6>in WA that Labor hasn't won since they won the

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<v Speaker 6>first time in two thousand and seven, and they didn't

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<v Speaker 6>win them again until two thousand and twenty two. At

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<v Speaker 6>least three of them look very shaky and I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>go to an election if I was Labor until I

0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 6>could overlay those state election results to see how far

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 6>the gloss is coming off Labor. With four seats there

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<v Speaker 6>in Western Australia, it's going to be a daylight savings election.

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<v Speaker 6>East Coast media, You're going to have three hours to

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<v Speaker 6>wait so called minority or win or lost, and you

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<v Speaker 6>better learn about WA.

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<v Speaker 1>See it's a bit like the American election too. People

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to work out Nevada, right, You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to go basically all the way out to California time,

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the middle of the night. In the US,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be the same here. Interestingly, look my

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<v Speaker 1>sense of Western Australian being there last week, and again

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to pretend to sort of know it

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<v Speaker 1>inside and out as if I'm living there, but things

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty good there in terms of the local economy, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's definitely a stench around the Prime minister.

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<v Speaker 1>Differently a stench around labor. Whether that's again interrelated with

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<v Speaker 1>the state party. Well, again, that's the issue with Queensland.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll all find out together what frightened in the most

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<v Speaker 1>about all of those poles, because jeez, as a labor person,

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<v Speaker 1>you okay, we're probably going to be get minority, but

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<v Speaker 1>what was the thing where you went? Okay?

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I think Anthony Albanezi is still clearly preferred leader

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<v Speaker 7>and he is still polling when you look at after

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<v Speaker 7>preferences to be able to be likely to form government

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<v Speaker 7>more likely than Peter Dunton. There's no doubt though that

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<v Speaker 7>cost of being pressures are really you know, hitting people's households,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's front of mind for very sensible reasons. I

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<v Speaker 7>do want to say this though, the opposition of released

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<v Speaker 7>two big policies, and both of them, now we've got

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<v Speaker 7>the evidence, will actually hurt cost of living. Right, So

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<v Speaker 7>the drawdown super policy, particularly for young people, likely to

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<v Speaker 7>drive up house prices, but makes people choose between a

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<v Speaker 7>healthy retirement and a house like that's just done reasonable.

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<v Speaker 7>Most adult Australians don't have to choose about that, why

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<v Speaker 7>I should young Australians. And the second one is about

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<v Speaker 7>the cost of nuclear power, right, not putting aside the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that they've said they want to have a power

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<v Speaker 7>plant in Muscle Brook in the Hunter Valley of New

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<v Speaker 7>South Wales. We've just had a massive earthquake there this weekend.

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<v Speaker 7>So I do think Peter Dutton is not playing this

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<v Speaker 7>very well like he might be polling okay because Australian's

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:50.759
<v Speaker 7>hip pockets are hurting. But his two main policies that

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<v Speaker 7>he is announced are going to make cost of living

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<v Speaker 7>worse and as the election gets closer, people start to

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<v Speaker 7>pay attention to.

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<v Speaker 1>That or so Christy the question I do have to say,

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<v Speaker 1>is Labor down down five points in the election, Libs

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<v Speaker 1>are only up one, so they're spreading kind of everywhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the preference question matters. As I've said a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mean, I've said it. I remember you know how

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<v Speaker 1>many times in the twenty nineteen election, right, what you

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<v Speaker 1>do with number two will determine who becomes the government?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? If bugging them all or Labour's going to

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<v Speaker 1>get back in all right, If you show the same

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<v Speaker 1>preference discipline on the right with one Nation, UAP, libertarian

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of it, then twenty nineteen might happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, Christy to that question of what the opposition

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<v Speaker 1>has to do. We know the disillusionment with the government,

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<v Speaker 1>but how do you turn them into the supporters of

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<v Speaker 1>the alternative?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, there's my new show in this, Paul, with you

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 6>mentioning preferences. Right, I think we're going to have a

0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 6>position and the Greens have said the gloves are off,

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<v Speaker 6>we're going after your seats. Lab but they're polling fifty

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<v Speaker 6>percent in seats like McNamara and Wheels. They can win

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<v Speaker 6>it out right. They've also got a very high vote

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<v Speaker 6>in seats like Perth. In Western Australia, that's another one

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<v Speaker 6>to watch. The Liberals also have a high vote too,

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<v Speaker 6>but the Labor can't win it without the Greens preferences.

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<v Speaker 6>So Greens preferences of the twenty twenty two election were

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<v Speaker 6>twelve percent nationally. Of course so were higher in some electorates,

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:22.160
<v Speaker 6>but the national vote was twelve percent. Is tracking upwards.

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<v Speaker 6>So with the Grands saying to Labor, we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>not preference you in some of these seats, and I

0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 6>think they're going to go up to about ten seats

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<v Speaker 6>and some of those will be a two term strategy

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<v Speaker 6>that they think they can win. Freemantle in Western Australia

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<v Speaker 6>is another risk of the Greens taking away their preferences.

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<v Speaker 6>For Josh Wilson, that's why Alberneze has made him a

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<v Speaker 6>junior minister to fight the election and give him resources.

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<v Speaker 6>So with we just don't know what the Grains are

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<v Speaker 6>going to do with their preferences. So the coalition's job

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:56.440
<v Speaker 6>from now on is to drive that wedge between labor

0:37:56.640 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 6>and the grains and get the Greens to take away

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.760
<v Speaker 6>those preferences in more and more labor states.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, obviously you can produce a how to

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.799
<v Speaker 1>vote card saying you do whatever you want with your

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>preferences as long as you go here and finish out

0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the things you can't run a just vote one strategy,

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>but obviously not going to end up preferencing the Libs.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is going to be fascinating again in relation

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to the ta or game, the Greens are going to

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<v Speaker 1>go about that.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think again we're freemantle.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to go, you know what, we think you

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<v Speaker 1>should vote the leaders Green vote.

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<v Speaker 7>New South Wales like government elections this coming Saturday, and

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.440
<v Speaker 7>it is people are going to be looking very closely

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 7>at the Greens and how they preference across the one

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:39.840
<v Speaker 7>hundred and twenty eight so that they're running in more spaces.

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 7>They're very ambitious and they think they're going to take

0:38:42.040 --> 0:38:45.520
<v Speaker 7>some councils. So I think it is Christy is absolutely

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 7>right to say that the Greens are I think threatening

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 7>and possibly likely to preference the Libs above Labor in

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:54.399
<v Speaker 7>a range of federal seats. They're very ambitious, they've got

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 7>their own agenda, it's very separate from Labors, and I

0:38:58.239 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 7>think it will be really important to watch how they

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<v Speaker 7>preference and whether they'll be able to keep those sort

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<v Speaker 7>of core environmental people and match them up with their

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<v Speaker 7>other base, you know, particularly people who don't believe in vaccinations.

0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 7>You know, they've got an unusual base, the Greens, and

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 7>how they sort of tie them all together and then preference.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a tough job for them, but they're polling very

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<v Speaker 7>well all right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that an issue we all thought had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of been resolved or at least was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>part of the mix two years ago, which was what

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<v Speaker 1>questions will be asked with the senses that the governments

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<v Speaker 1>sort have reopened in the past two weeks and like

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 1>all the sort of the snakes jumping out and they've

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:43.840
<v Speaker 1>just gone everywhere. Right now. I've made this very clear

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:47.279
<v Speaker 1>last week. Right, this is not advocacy. It's just I'm

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:50.040
<v Speaker 1>a data guy. Right now, I'm a dumb data guy.

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But still I want to know what's going on. So

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you should ask questions of every possible persuasion right now. Yes,

0:39:58.000 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 1>you may feel a little confronting when you turn it

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>and see gender and it's not two options. You may

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:06.040
<v Speaker 1>feel a little when it's sexually okay, right, I understand

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:09.239
<v Speaker 1>all that, But the senses. It's just about knowing how

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>many people I hear true information about where they are,

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:18.399
<v Speaker 1>everything from homelessness to mansions from again men women and yes,

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>this is a population of people who don't identify as

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>both identify as one. Okay, it's going to be a

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>small number, but knowing it's not going to kill anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason the government said, oh, we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do this because we've got to open up

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 1>division where who was going to blow up about this?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? And remember most people do the census online,

0:40:38.520 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like, oh, imagine someone sending you twenty

0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 1>eight pages is not going to happen much. People do

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:47.280
<v Speaker 1>it online now, all right, Now we learn today Jim Chalmers,

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 1>desperately trying to put it all back in the horse

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>after letting it out of the horse for no reason whatsoever,

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:55.200
<v Speaker 1>announced that what we all thought was going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>two weeks ago will actually now still be happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Be in the next census questions on both sexual preference

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<v Speaker 2>and gender identity. There will, David, we'll be adding a

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<v Speaker 2>new topic which covers both sexual orientation and gender. That'll

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<v Speaker 2>be the first time in the twenty twenty six census.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we have listened to the community.

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<v Speaker 1>If you listened, you wouldn't have even started this process.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, again, Christy, most people watching don't care for

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>the people who do find something about this offensive. I'm

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>not trying to be antagonistic. I'm just saying the reason

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<v Speaker 1>you ask is to have an accurate picture of Australia.

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<v Speaker 6>Look, it's the national document. I don't mind having that data.

0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 6>What's wrong with having as much data as possible so

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 6>we can define outcomes and that can feed into various

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:56.759
<v Speaker 6>policy platforms. The reality is, I mean, particularly I live

0:41:56.800 --> 0:42:00.640
<v Speaker 6>here in Victoria. Despite being a proud West Australian. Somebody

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 6>says to me, there's a lot of you in proud

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:02.800
<v Speaker 6>Rests Starlings.

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:03.839
<v Speaker 1>None of you want to live there.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm here in Melbourne and the reality is in Victoria.

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<v Speaker 6>If you fill out any government form whatsoever, it asks

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 6>you what your sexual orientation is and whether your male

0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 6>female non binary. That's okay. That started collecting. I think

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.720
<v Speaker 6>this is a way to have that at a national level.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.320
<v Speaker 6>A lot of the states do it for various documents,

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 6>certainly in health collection data. But what make it a

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<v Speaker 6>huge issue the cynic in me says the government just

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 6>wanted to either ignore it because they are wary of

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 6>the polls. They think it might be something that might

0:42:44.600 --> 0:42:50.360
<v Speaker 6>offend out a suburban, more traditional labor voters versus inner

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:55.600
<v Speaker 6>grains voters. I don't know what they overthought in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of this one all.

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<v Speaker 1>Too clever by half right. I'll tell you what they

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>were most worried about in a second. But Linda first, right,

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<v Speaker 1>how did this day two weeks? Wasn't this some promise

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>somewhere down the back of the bus in and around

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<v Speaker 1>the last election campaign? We just need data and who

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<v Speaker 1>is the conservative group that's been screaming it no? What? Look?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it is welcome that the census is going

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<v Speaker 7>to include questions about the LGBT IQ plus community. It's

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 7>important that we get that information. This does have to

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 7>go through the Parliament though, and so let's be clear.

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<v Speaker 7>It will be a test for Peter dutn't it will

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<v Speaker 7>be a test for the Greens, who've already given some

0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:38.319
<v Speaker 7>signals that they want to vote against this legislation. I agree, Paul,

0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:42.400
<v Speaker 7>it's pretty straightforward, clear legislation. You know, we should be

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 7>listening to the National Statistician and getting these questions into

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 7>the senses. That's a welcome move. I certainly hope that

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:53.000
<v Speaker 7>people don't play politics with the legislation and that they

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:56.240
<v Speaker 7>just ticket on through efficiently when Parliament is sitting hopefully

0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.440
<v Speaker 7>this week, and we can all just move on with

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:00.800
<v Speaker 7>what is a really important statist you call document for

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.440
<v Speaker 7>Australia's Look.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you where the worry is going to be here,

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>which is when you fill it out. It's fine for

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, adult one, adult two. Then you get to

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>child one, child too. Right. If the question once you

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:18.920
<v Speaker 1>hit child gives you that option, people are going to

0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>find a way to be annoyed about it. Right again,

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>you know my thing, which is to leave the kids alone.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there is a very small subset of subset

0:44:29.360 --> 0:44:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of subset of subset of subset of somebody who wants

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.800
<v Speaker 1>to fill that out, then it doesn't change any of

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:38.359
<v Speaker 1>our lives. Right. If it's pushed on them, fine, I'll

0:44:38.400 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>be the first to be ripping in if there's you know,

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>some sort of safe schools program in inner city Victoria

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:49.440
<v Speaker 1>that's telling the kids how to answer. But otherwise it's

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.719
<v Speaker 1>just a data exercise. Let's see what happens this week

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<v Speaker 1>in Parliament. Quick break back with more. We'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Harris and Trump debate and where to from here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a massive and I mean massive news story

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<v Speaker 1>that's just happen in and around that and polling coming

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<v Speaker 1>from New York point a set. Thank you very much

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<v Speaker 1>for watching. Don't forget to rule a report a couple

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<v Speaker 1>ten thousand numbers for that petition. Make sure you hit

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<v Speaker 1>it before we're done tonight. So, Linda Scott, Christy McSweeney,

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the Trump Harris debate, I think whatever happens in that

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 1>hour is probably going to be the bit that will

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<v Speaker 1>push it just in this direction or just in that direction,

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<v Speaker 1>and then basically nothing will be able to change it

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<v Speaker 1>from that point. Now, of course, we don't know media

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 1>rights and heart attacks and god forbid, right, but we

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know that New York Times has just dropped in

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<v Speaker 1>an opinion poll though, and it says Trump nationally is

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<v Speaker 1>up by one point forty eight to forty seven. Interestingly,

0:45:53.960 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 1>sixty percent of the country say it's hit it in

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the wrong direction. Fifty three percent of women say they're

0:45:58.680 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>going to vote Harris sent of men, so they're going

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to vote Trump. So the debate you're obviously going to

0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:08.279
<v Speaker 1>be cheering on for sort of the Kamala swing. If

0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>you could give her the free advice of how to win.

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 1>What is the free advice that? What's the thing you

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 1>want to see? Do you want to see him sort

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 1>of crumble in, not knowing how to antswer, melting like

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the wicked witch of the West, or her going excuse me,

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:22.399
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, what do you want to see?

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<v Speaker 7>Look, I think nobody can control what Donald Trump's going

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<v Speaker 7>to do with this debate, not even his own team, right.

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<v Speaker 7>This is why they've gone for the format where they

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:33.239
<v Speaker 7>can sort of mute the microphones. I was joking with

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.440
<v Speaker 7>my teenager son the other day and saying, oh, you know,

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.680
<v Speaker 7>debates don't matter that much, and he went, well, they

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 7>did for Biden.

0:46:38.840 --> 0:46:41.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 7>Defer to the wisdom of my children. So look, I

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<v Speaker 7>do think the debate will matter, and I do think

0:46:46.160 --> 0:46:48.479
<v Speaker 7>a lot of Americans will be tuning in and will

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.920
<v Speaker 7>it determine whether or not they'll vote for you know, Alb,

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 7>maybe not. Will it determine, though I've talked to you

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.480
<v Speaker 7>about this before. Will it determine whether they turn out

0:46:57.520 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 7>to vote or not? I reckon yes. This is a

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.799
<v Speaker 7>big motivator for how well you candidate performs, whether you

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 7>get momentum in these final few weeks. Ballot papers go

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.480
<v Speaker 7>out this Friday, you know, this is really on their doorsteps,

0:47:10.520 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 7>and Americans will tune in, make a decision about whether

0:47:13.880 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 7>or not to vote, and then that will carry So

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<v Speaker 7>I think this is going to be a critical debate

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 7>for Harris. She's got to perform well. She's got to

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<v Speaker 7>get those clear messages across about how she'll make a difference,

0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:25.839
<v Speaker 7>and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Media will define that she's done all of those things

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<v Speaker 1>even before we begin. And of course we'll do the

0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.040
<v Speaker 1>gogglebot political goggle box thing here again. I'll show the

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<v Speaker 1>highlights Wednesday night. Christy, you've got less than a minute here,

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<v Speaker 1>but give me a sense of what you want to

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<v Speaker 1>see out of this.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I have to go to Parliament and watch our

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:45.359
<v Speaker 6>own debate, laters, so I'll be watching that one as

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:49.360
<v Speaker 6>well in the background. Look, she has really struggled to

0:47:49.400 --> 0:47:53.600
<v Speaker 6>stop waffling. People are making fun of the Democrats trying

0:47:53.640 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 6>to win on the vibe, and I think that's true.

0:47:57.480 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 6>I think she really needs to start speeding in soundbites

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:06.439
<v Speaker 6>around policy and around direction and around delivering and less

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:10.399
<v Speaker 6>waffle and Donald Trump he needs a lot less waffle toe.

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 6>It's a battle of wafflers at this debate. I think

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 6>they both need to be strong.

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.360
<v Speaker 1>My sense is he doesn't have to swing for what

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 1>he seems to be the knockout blow, all right, because

0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.760
<v Speaker 1>by struggling and missing and struggling and missing and struggling

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.080
<v Speaker 1>and missing, the perception of the hour is going to

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 1>be he was trying to knock her out and she

0:48:28.719 --> 0:48:32.000
<v Speaker 1>won because she survived. No, No, enjoy the discipline of

0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the microphones being on and off. Answer the question that's

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<v Speaker 1>there or not, because right now, going into it, if

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<v Speaker 1>he's in front, he's the one with more to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning you shrink yourself into a ball, make your way

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<v Speaker 1>through the hour, and then push home whatever lead you've

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<v Speaker 1>already got, and don't fall into the moments. But free advice,

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. Thank you Linda, Thank you Christy. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see you again. Next week. That's our show for tonight

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<v Speaker 1>Tuddah