Speaker 1: From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Thanks
Speaker 1: so much for watching. Welcome to a big Sunday night
Speaker 1: out of a massive week of Paul Murray Lives. We've
Speaker 1: got an awful lot happening in federal politics, state, local,
Speaker 1: the international stuff. But first, so many polls tonight and
Speaker 1: detail you haven't heard anywhere else. Our I'll made grim
Speaker 1: Jim the great passenger of the Australian economy. You see,
Speaker 1: there is a difference between a windsock and the pilot
Speaker 1: of a plane. Which one would you actually give the
Speaker 1: trust over to? Probably not the wind sock, but that
Speaker 1: of course is grim Jim. He's the ones that will
Speaker 1: I feel your pain, a little bit up, a little
Speaker 1: bit down, but always I deserve congratulations. Last week the
Speaker 1: disgraceful display of trying to change the subject for their
Speaker 1: own failure as politicians and members and guardians of our
Speaker 1: own society when he was bashing away at the Reserve Bank.
Speaker 1: Now this worked with Philip Loow, it won't work a
Speaker 1: second time around. Even the former Treasurer and old Grim
Speaker 1: Jim's former boss, Wayne Swan got in on it, and
Speaker 1: quite correctly, the odds referred to that as a coward
Speaker 1: punch to the RBA head. The RBA has been in
Speaker 1: the sights of the government because if there is a
Speaker 1: thirteenth interes straight rise, supposedly that will be the tipping point.
Speaker 1: My belief is politically of cost of living matters. The twelfth,
Speaker 1: the eleventh, the tenth and ninth, the eighth have all
Speaker 1: put the Prime Minister and the Labor Party on very
Speaker 1: serious notice, if not right at the end of the plank.
Speaker 1: But this was the Labor Party trying to change the subject.
Speaker 1: Most of the media following along.
Speaker 2: Are the combination of global economic uncertainty and higher interest
Speaker 2: rates is smashing household budgets and slowing our economy considerably.
Speaker 3: Treasurer's comments were absolutely nothing new.
Speaker 4: The Reserve Bank is putting economic dogma over rational economic
Speaker 4: decision making, hammering households, hammering mums and dads with rates,
Speaker 4: causing a collapse in spending and driving the economy backwards.
Speaker 1: But God love Australia, God love the fellow normal people
Speaker 1: of this joint Because well, I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen in an election. We needed to send a message,
Speaker 1: the message that we have been relentless about and at
Speaker 1: times feeling like a little bit of a loan soldier.
Speaker 1: Over the past two and a bit years, we knew
Speaker 1: about cost of living being major, and we knew that
Speaker 1: inflation was out of control. We knew inflation was out
Speaker 1: of control in part because of the actions of this government.
Speaker 1: Well polar dropped tonight has shown that the majority of
Speaker 1: Australians blame the government and its treasure of Grimjim Chalmers,
Speaker 1: not the Reserve Bank. Have a look. This comes from
Speaker 1: the far right wing annals of the Channel nine newspapers.
Speaker 1: Fifty one percent of all voters say, in relation to
Speaker 1: the question of who do you think has greatest responsibility
Speaker 1: for ki inflation down? The government fifty one percent. For
Speaker 1: labor voters the majority of them, forty two percent say
Speaker 1: the government. For Coalition voters the majority by a mile,
Speaker 1: sixty three percent say the government. For other voters everything
Speaker 1: from the touchy teals all the way through to One
Speaker 1: Nation and UAP and anything else in between. Forty eight
Speaker 1: percent uncommitted undecided voters again about fifty percent at forty
Speaker 1: nine and the seats that matter the most fifty percent.
Speaker 1: You see one of the ways that we have slowly
Speaker 1: but surely sort of got to where we've got about
Speaker 1: how I do this show each and every night for
Speaker 1: you is, yes, we have to talk about the stuff
Speaker 1: that is obviously larger than news. Yes we have to
Speaker 1: point out some of the things that we think are
Speaker 1: examples of people pulling the wool over your eyes. And
Speaker 1: sometimes we're relentless on a particular topic because it feels
Speaker 1: like the topic that should be the total absolute ram
Speaker 1: ram ram focus. Well, there's an entire industry of people
Speaker 1: who want to protect this government, protect its electoral chances,
Speaker 1: that want to change the subject. Now, obviously to people
Speaker 1: in the government want to change the subject, but it's
Speaker 1: incredible how many people in the media are more than
Speaker 1: happy to try to change the subject because they don't
Speaker 1: experience the cost of living issues that you do. And
Speaker 1: even if they are feeling a little tougher than they
Speaker 1: did a little while ago, you couldn't possibly get rid
Speaker 1: of the greatest government of all time. I mean, after all,
Speaker 1: these were the people who almost sixty percent of Australians,
Speaker 1: according to a poll in the Sorry a Redbridge Pole
Speaker 1: My Apologies, said they couldn't name one thing this government
Speaker 1: has done to make their life better. Almost sixty percent
Speaker 1: of people. Now, let's slow down, let's have a look
Speaker 1: at again more of these numbers, because again, all of
Speaker 1: this will be brushed away. There will be some dramatic
Speaker 1: change of the subject that'll happen between now and when
Speaker 1: the sun comes up. Will be I mean, I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe today. Oh there's an ad attacking Peter Dutton. Who cares?
Speaker 1: Who cares? That's the Labor Party trying to change the subject.
Speaker 1: And just on that nuclear thing. Oh, six hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 1: This mob, according to the CSIRO, want to spend a
Speaker 1: trillion dollars on changing the power system. So just don't
Speaker 1: fall for it. Let the lefties do it, not us.
Speaker 1: All right, we continue when I say us, I'm in
Speaker 1: this program. Now, interesting here again about the cost of
Speaker 1: living low? Keeping cost of living low? You can tell
Speaker 1: I don't know my glasses. The Liberal Party leads the
Speaker 1: Labor Party by seven points. Now, remember what was the
Speaker 1: promise of the last election, I'll vote Labor everything goes down. Well,
Speaker 1: now that's gone. It's how the Libs, who most people believe,
Speaker 1: in that situation. However, there's a significant number of undecided people.
Speaker 1: That's because they know that the Labor Party. So called
Speaker 1: solutions aren't good enough, but the Liberal Party has not
Speaker 1: put enough solutions on the table. They need to start
Speaker 1: doing it to actually convert people from sort of ah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not all that into it, to actually fully making
Speaker 1: the change and being willing to change the government. Now again,
Speaker 1: all the evidence is this is not a one term government,
Speaker 1: but it could be. It could be if some of
Speaker 1: these other numbers are true. When it comes to overall
Speaker 1: economic management, you can see thirty seven to twenty six,
Speaker 1: eleven point lead for the Liberals right now managing the
Speaker 1: finances of the government again, an eleven point lead of
Speaker 1: a Liberal party over the Labor Party. Things had been
Speaker 1: cracking for a while, They have been crumbling for the
Speaker 1: past a little while, and im plice to say people
Speaker 1: are now willing to tell a polster, and that polster
Speaker 1: presumably will tell a politician. Meantime, of course, all of
Speaker 1: these poles and they've been relentless, and they've been this
Speaker 1: way since well kind of back half of last year
Speaker 1: for now like a full year. The government's been not
Speaker 1: a great place when it comes to the polls. Billions
Speaker 1: of dollars that they have decided to take for me
Speaker 1: Australian Treasury, I e. Your tax dollars to turn around
Speaker 1: and buy campaign slogans going into an election. Well, the
Speaker 1: Prime Minister was at the mcg. He was there on
Speaker 1: Friday night as the Hawks we're playing the Western Bulldogs.
Speaker 1: Now he is despite the fact that he's from Sydney,
Speaker 1: in sort of inner Sydney. He ended up in the
Speaker 1: rooms in the sheds. He is apparently a hardcore Hawks fan.
Speaker 1: But some people are calling them out and world done
Speaker 1: Brownie for doing it.
Speaker 3: Well, because I feel like the Prime Minister this is
Speaker 3: for the good of himself going into the Hawthorn rooms.
Speaker 3: This sickens me.
Speaker 1: Anthony alb He's had a look at the pole all over.
Speaker 3: Peter Dunton is closing and he's in front. There's a gap.
Speaker 3: He feels like I need to look like a common man.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go into the Hawthorn rooms. Give it
Speaker 3: up elbow now AND's buying it now.
Speaker 1: I don't know whether he's taking the pits or not.
Speaker 1: But the reality is this guy's desperate to be associated
Speaker 1: with anything, be more popular. You see, he used to
Speaker 1: think that people wanted to come to him. So I
Speaker 1: think you get a little bit of the gold dust
Speaker 1: off your shoulders. Now he's desperately please, may I have
Speaker 1: some more like oliver Us? Trying to get a bit
Speaker 1: of start us from anyone more popular than him. And
Speaker 1: again same pole. Channel nine newspapers, Channel nine TV network
Speaker 1: have a look the Labour Party since the election. Their
Speaker 1: primary voters down five points. That's huge. That would mean
Speaker 1: that they are going to lose seats, and they would
Speaker 1: lose seats to the Greens. Now, it is important to
Speaker 1: note that the Liberal National Party yes way in front
Speaker 1: best part of what nine points, there's still a couple
Speaker 1: of points short of forty and that's where they can
Speaker 1: actually win an election, which is why we keep talking
Speaker 1: about a minority election so much at the moment. The
Speaker 1: AFR they had another poll as well. This one was
Speaker 1: the Redbridge survey which appeared in the Financial Review. It
Speaker 1: says that it's going to again be a minority situation.
Speaker 1: But interestingly, how many times have we sat here gone
Speaker 1: through the polls together, taken the time to do so
Speaker 1: over many minutes? And the reason I do this is
Speaker 1: we're not just of bouncing through the headlines. We're not
Speaker 1: doing what they do on Twitter. Well, read the headline
Speaker 1: and nothing. We're going to get into the detail. Get
Speaker 1: into it because I know you're interested, you can handle it,
Speaker 1: and I know you like it. Because when we have
Speaker 1: the information, we can win an argument. When you don't
Speaker 1: have the information, when you don't have the data, then
Speaker 1: you're not able to have even a lead to stand
Speaker 1: on sometimes in an argument. Now again, the people who've said, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a one term government, I understand why they say,
Speaker 1: and I understand the hopeful thinking behind it, and wouldn't
Speaker 1: it be amazing. However, the reality of the Liberal Party
Speaker 1: getting to seventy six seats or even get into a
Speaker 1: position where they could start to form a minority government
Speaker 1: is unlikely if the Teals are all re elected. Now again,
Speaker 1: according to this pole, Now, this was a different pole.
Speaker 1: This is not your classic sort of one thousand to
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred people. This was thousands of people and a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of other data like census data, ABS data,
Speaker 1: demographic data, population data, so all those people who moved
Speaker 1: from Victoria to southeast Queensland, all of that is part
Speaker 1: of their analysis. It's really interesting. These sorts of poles
Speaker 1: are used heavily in the United Kingdom and they're pretty
Speaker 1: damn good. So let's have a look here. If an
Speaker 1: election was held now, the Coalition would win the seats
Speaker 1: of Gilmore and Patterson in New South Wales. They would
Speaker 1: win Lingiari that is the seat around Alice Springs in
Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Lions in Tasmania, meaning that they would
Speaker 1: have two of the seats there. They've already got Bass.
Speaker 1: They I think could also push on Braden, but anyway,
Speaker 1: they would also be competitive in the Teal seats of Goldstein.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to say I thought Zoey Daniel was
Speaker 1: not moving, but according to this sort of analysis, that's
Speaker 1: a chance, aren't they chance? And over in Western Australia
Speaker 1: the only teal they're curtain. In more detail, let's imagine
Speaker 1: their data is correct. We have an election seventy six
Speaker 1: seats to form a majority government. Anything less than that
Speaker 1: is the beginning of chaos. The lower the number is
Speaker 1: behind seventy six, the higher the sense of chaos, because
Speaker 1: the number of people you've got to go to on
Speaker 1: the cross benches. The government would go from seventy eight
Speaker 1: seats down two sixty four. The Liberal Party would go
Speaker 1: substantially up to fifty three, but fifty three is still
Speaker 1: a long way away. To give you an idea of
Speaker 1: what might happen here, the Coalition could win two seats
Speaker 1: Taal seats in the inner city, three in the middle suburbs,
Speaker 1: three in the outer suburbs, two in provincial areas, and
Speaker 1: one in rural areas. Now again you can see here
Speaker 1: the Labor may pick up an inner city seat may
Speaker 1: but other than that they lose in all of those
Speaker 1: other areas. This would be a major change. Now, the
Speaker 1: difference between that number of what sixty four seats and
Speaker 1: seventy six seats fifty five three and seventy six seats
Speaker 1: or sixty five seats sixty seven and sort of both
Speaker 1: of them were there As many as fourteen seats are
Speaker 1: considered too close to call. These include Casey, Bruce, McEwen,
Speaker 1: Chisholm and Ryan in Brisbane, Tangy in Perth. Now, those
Speaker 1: would be mostly Labor seats that would end up going
Speaker 1: across to the coalition. However, however, before you start doing
Speaker 1: the numbers in your head, or if they can get
Speaker 1: to the same number as Labor, then well, of course
Speaker 1: the left wing teels are going to back Labor. They're
Speaker 1: not going to back the Libs. The Greens are going
Speaker 1: to back Labor, not the Libs, and presumably once the
Speaker 1: majority of the cross Bench starts to go in one direction,
Speaker 1: that's how you end up with the chaos. Parliament led
Speaker 1: by the Prime Minister is sort of the court Jesta.
Speaker 1: Here Kauper on the North Coast currently a National seat,
Speaker 1: it could disappear and go either or most likely independent,
Speaker 1: some sort of version of in and around that part
Speaker 1: of the world. You could end up with some sort
Speaker 1: of independent candidate there who's not a teal, but it
Speaker 1: feeding in one sort of a roboak shot one. Also,
Speaker 1: we told you Danteen's seat because he's gone hard when
Speaker 1: it comes to immigration. There is a chance that a
Speaker 1: male teal this time, but a teal wearing orange but
Speaker 1: still basically the same thing might be there. So all
Speaker 1: of is fascinating, absolutely fascinating what the details are. And
Speaker 1: just to round it out, despite the fact that these
Speaker 1: people have bullied the head of the Reserve Bank, despite
Speaker 1: the fact that if it was a liberal it would
Speaker 1: be called all sorts of sexist things. But because it's labor, oh,
Speaker 1: they're just rubbish right. Inflation and Australia must be between
Speaker 1: two and three percent. In order for that to be
Speaker 1: the target range four all of the people started an
Speaker 1: eye the economists at both Treasury and the Reserve Banks.
Speaker 1: So that's where the sweet spot is for the Australian economy.
Speaker 1: We are close to four percent and we are three percent,
Speaker 1: which is why interest rates remain as high as they
Speaker 1: do with a chance of going even further above. That's
Speaker 1: what we are facing right now. So again same Polster,
Speaker 1: but this time interpreted by are the News Limited papers
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Number one issue country mile cost of living,
Speaker 1: cost of living at sixty two percent, housing not even
Speaker 1: half of it the economy in general. Once you put
Speaker 1: those two together, well, of course that is the number
Speaker 1: one issue. Then healthcare, crime, climate change, all the money,
Speaker 1: all the attention. Well, if the last election was the
Speaker 1: climate change election, this one's going to be the cost
Speaker 1: of living election. And if it is the cost election,
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance the government is about to
Speaker 1: get a size nine fair in the backside, definitely taking
Speaker 1: them out of a majority. Potentially maybe on a good day,
Speaker 1: something even worse than that. But it is not going
Speaker 1: to be a fun three years with the idiots in
Speaker 1: charge of the asylum. You can decide whether that is
Speaker 1: the cross bench or the major Party that they will
Speaker 1: be propping up most likely with labor huge other issue
Speaker 1: that is playing right now. Many seats in Western Australia.
Speaker 1: Labor Party won four at the last election, a huge
Speaker 1: all four of those could end up tumbling as well
Speaker 1: as the Teal seat over one issue in particular. When
Speaker 1: we were in Wa last week, I had so many
Speaker 1: conversations about the government's decision to turn the tap off
Speaker 1: on the live sheep industry. Now this industry, think about it.
Speaker 1: The people who breed the sheep, take care of the sheep,
Speaker 1: the vets that take care of them, the transporters, the
Speaker 1: people loading them onto the ships, the docks, the checkers,
Speaker 1: all of that. There's so many jobs associated with all
Speaker 1: of this. Yet, because the Labor Party can never walk
Speaker 1: away from an idea if they have an idea, and
Speaker 1: it's a sticking bad idea like the live export ban
Speaker 1: that Julia Gillard put in place the day after animal
Speaker 1: rights footage was aired on the ABC, not about what
Speaker 1: was happening in Australia, but what was happening in Indonesia.
Speaker 1: Remember that entire industry bank turned off the entire north
Speaker 1: of the country outraged. Well, they couldn't possibly repeat that
Speaker 1: because they're afraid of losing those seats in the Northern territory.
Speaker 1: Maths matters right now. But the assumption was, Oh, we're
Speaker 1: so amazing, We're signing the arms of former labor staffers
Speaker 1: to convince people that we're not changing the GST. So wa,
Speaker 1: it only cares about the GST. Well guess what. It
Speaker 1: also cares about this, and there is a huge effort
Speaker 1: as we speak. There are trucks that are leaving Western
Speaker 1: Australia that will make it through South Australia, that'll come
Speaker 1: up through New South Wales and then bang into Canberra.
Speaker 1: They are planning to do so on Tuesday. To make
Speaker 1: it very clear how pissed off these people are. Tony
Speaker 1: Seabrook we spoke to him ahead of the Bush Summit
Speaker 1: in Port Headland last week. He's on the Pastoralists Association,
Speaker 1: one of the groups behind this, and if he's barking
Speaker 1: mad and annoyed about it, imagine what everyone else is.
Speaker 1: But how articulate it is this bloke. If this bloke
Speaker 1: ever put his hand up to run for anything, I'd
Speaker 1: go and let a box for him. How good is
Speaker 1: this blow? I think they're going to be very, very worried.
Speaker 1: We know the seats, we know where the week spots are.
Speaker 5: There's going to be a huge protest in Canberra on
Speaker 5: the tenth.
Speaker 2: A lot of farmers West Australia going over there, a
Speaker 2: lot of sport maver East.
Speaker 1: We are going to rock therebout well the tenth Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Tuesday in Canberra, there's going to be this huge protest.
Speaker 1: Now we've been talking about this issue for a long time.
Speaker 1: We've been talking Tony for a long time. Will again
Speaker 1: talk to some people in and around the rally as
Speaker 1: it makes its way to Canberra and then after what
Speaker 1: takes place on Tuesday. But this thing is so big
Speaker 1: that even the person who represents the richest seat in
Speaker 1: Western Australia, a place that among others, takes in Coddoslow,
Speaker 1: the beautiful Cotdislow Beach, all of that area that's about
Speaker 1: what an hour above of Fremantle. This used to be
Speaker 1: July Bishop territory. Well, even the teal has turned around
Speaker 1: and changed her mind. She was with the ban the
Speaker 1: live export thing. She knows how full on this could be.
Speaker 1: So even the Teal changed her mind and backs people
Speaker 1: like Tony. So I want you to go to a website,
Speaker 1: Keep the Sheep dot com a you Keep the Sheep
Speaker 1: dot com dot Au. When you get there, you will
Speaker 1: see a petition. Hit the button to take you to
Speaker 1: a petition for you to put your name your details in.
Speaker 1: There are eighty one thousand at least signatures. Let's get
Speaker 1: it to one hundred thousand tonight, Keep the Sheep dot
Speaker 1: com dot au. Do you believe the live sheep industry
Speaker 1: has improved itself from fifteen years ago? Hell? Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: Do you trust people like Tony about the welfare of
Speaker 1: the animals, Yes I do. Do you care about everyone
Speaker 1: along the production line here? Yes? I do? Then you
Speaker 1: go to Keep the Sheep dot com dot au. Keep
Speaker 1: the Sheep dot com dot au here is part of
Speaker 1: their social media feed. This is an excellent campaign being
Speaker 1: run beautifully. It's rare to see this stuff and it
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter with you're the center left, center right.
Speaker 1: But they are coalescing around it, and this is as
Speaker 1: professional a job as I've ever seen a community group
Speaker 1: be able to pull up when you're pushing back against lefties.
Speaker 1: Keep the Sheep dot com dot Au. Now, Bruce and
Speaker 1: Denise Morcombe are beautiful people. They should have been the
Speaker 1: Australian of the Year. Instead, the committee decided, of course
Speaker 1: to make Jeffrey Rush the Australian.
Speaker 4: Of the Year.
Speaker 1: Well there's un Daniel, as we know, kidnapped, murdered. The
Speaker 1: search was horrific all those years ago. They have turned
Speaker 1: all of that heartache into going around schools providing kids
Speaker 1: with warning from about how to be safe. They also
Speaker 1: want a register publicly available of anyone who is a
Speaker 1: sex offender in Queensland today. The promise of the money,
Speaker 1: the promise of the establishment of it, came from the
Speaker 1: man who we fingers cross hope is the next Premier
Speaker 1: of Queensland, David Cruci Foley. So if you care about
Speaker 1: this issue, you've got a side to pick now. This
Speaker 1: is about ensuring that parents are able to keep their
Speaker 1: children away from dangerous predators. Daniel's Law long overdue on
Speaker 1: its way in Queensland should there be a change of
Speaker 1: government around October now. Also, remember last week I told
Speaker 1: you about the scary number of people who end up
Speaker 1: dying on the regional roads of Australia. Now again being
Speaker 1: incredibly honest with you, I'm not going to pretend that
Speaker 1: I haven't gone a little room on some of these roads.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend that in all my life,
Speaker 1: I've never done something stupid on the road. Done plenty, right,
Speaker 1: But every now and then there is a particular accident,
Speaker 1: or there's a particular bit of detail or anything like that,
Speaker 1: and it reminds you that this is not a toy.
Speaker 1: You can hurt yourself, you can hurt other people. Of course,
Speaker 1: you can kill yourself or other people as well. We
Speaker 1: told you that the shocking data that showed that it's
Speaker 1: very significant. In fact, more than half of all the
Speaker 1: people who die on the roads, they do so in
Speaker 1: regional areas. So people need to slow down, whether we
Speaker 1: like it or not, whether it's annoying because we can't
Speaker 1: get the thing up to top gear and we can't
Speaker 1: hear the room. We all get it right, slow down.
Speaker 1: Bathist is a race run by other people, not by
Speaker 1: those of us trying to get too Bathists, all right,
Speaker 1: which is why, And you said Walsh, today is announced
Speaker 1: the their new way of trying to bring the road
Speaker 1: toll down. Yes, they'll make revenue out of it, No
Speaker 1: question is for average speed cameras. Now these are currently
Speaker 1: focused on trucks. They will now be turned onto cars.
Speaker 1: So imagine there's one town and two hundred k's up.
Speaker 1: The other end of the road is another town, probably
Speaker 1: not two hundred k's but let's imagine liftgo on the
Speaker 1: other side of the Blue Mountains trying to make your
Speaker 1: way to Bathist to go and watch the Bathist races. Well,
Speaker 1: there's an average speed camera there that would be able
Speaker 1: to work out. You go through it at this time,
Speaker 1: and you go through the second one at another time,
Speaker 1: and if it's anything over the one hundred and ten
Speaker 1: or the average time that's supposed to be there, then bang,
Speaker 1: you're going to get booked and you're going to get
Speaker 1: booked for speeding. I don't want to get book for speeding.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to get booked for speeding. So
Speaker 1: no one is warned, but you are going to get
Speaker 1: booked for speeding if you go too fast in between
Speaker 1: point A and point B.
Speaker 5: The difference here between a mobile speed camera and an
Speaker 5: average speed camera is that as you're traveling over say
Speaker 5: fifteen or sixteen kilometers, they'll measure your speed over that
Speaker 5: period rather than simply at a point in time.
Speaker 1: Now told you last week about all the places that
Speaker 1: are the concern right now in and around bushfires. Bushfire
Speaker 1: season apparently going to be a warm spring, the particular
Speaker 1: focus right western Victoria, Northern Territory, top half of Queensland.
Speaker 1: Now we know that as we move into summer, the
Speaker 1: potential places for bushfires, well, it's a lot of differ places. Now.
Speaker 1: Inevitably every bushfire is interpreted by the Prime Minister of
Speaker 1: the Greens Twitter, the ABC is everything's about climate change.
Speaker 1: But the truth is that some of the intensity of
Speaker 1: these fires, once they are lit, happens to do with
Speaker 1: what's on the ground, the fuel that is on the ground.
Speaker 1: So before there is any major bush fire, before somebody
Speaker 1: turns around and says to say so is a denial
Speaker 1: of climate change. There is a report today that worries me.
Speaker 1: Just last week we had all of the different firebosses
Speaker 1: from the country gathering in Sydney. They did so to
Speaker 1: talk about the preparedness for spring. One of the ways
Speaker 1: you can do that is to clear the crap off
Speaker 1: the ground. Hazard reduction, all right, I want to use
Speaker 1: all the other terms. Hazard reduction is the one they
Speaker 1: want us to use or use it over and over right. However,
Speaker 1: just forty five percent of the hazard reduction that was
Speaker 1: supposed to be done in the lead up to this
Speaker 1: fire season has not been done. That's Near South Wales.
Speaker 1: The total hazard reduction burns by the Rual Fire Service
Speaker 1: for the period of July one last year to June
Speaker 1: thirty this year was one hundred and thirty nine thousand hectares.
Speaker 1: They were supposed to get on top of three hundred
Speaker 1: and thirteen thousand. Now they'll say there were days it
Speaker 1: was too windy here, there were days it was too wet,
Speaker 1: there were days that was too warm. Seriously, you know
Speaker 1: and I know that the amount that they strive for
Speaker 1: each and every year feels like it gets smaller and smaller.
Speaker 1: So when they failed to live on even smaller targets
Speaker 1: as opposed to bigger targets because they didn't meet the
Speaker 1: one last year, you get my point. Hazard reduction so
Speaker 1: vitally important, but greenies hate it. And we all know
Speaker 1: who's sort of in charge of the general conversation. Last year,
Speaker 1: by the way, not the twur months just gone with
Speaker 1: the twelve months before that. In New South Wales, they
Speaker 1: completely just twenty eight, twenty eight percent of everything that
Speaker 1: was supposed to be dealt with off the ground. Why
Speaker 1: do I talk about it because it matters, because it
Speaker 1: could be the difference between life and death for people.
Speaker 1: And yep, it means I'll make the same point over
Speaker 1: and over again until someone starts to listen. Now, this
Speaker 1: is the week that I think we are going to
Speaker 1: get our best indication yet about whom is not just
Speaker 1: going to be leading, but most likely going to win,
Speaker 1: between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. Why because the only
Speaker 1: debate is going to be taking place this week Now.
Speaker 1: I've been showing the bookies for a while. They showed
Speaker 1: Harris up, then they showed Trump up. Now they show
Speaker 1: basically even because they believe that Right now Trump is
Speaker 1: leading in Pennsylvania and Nevada, remember those seven key states. Well,
Speaker 1: he'll be able if he can win both of those,
Speaker 1: he wins the election. But see how tight that's starting
Speaker 1: to be. Now. The amount of money in this pool
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. It's millions and millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: So there's big fluctuations starting to happen. Also, I've heard
Speaker 1: of Nate Silver. Now that silver is a dater guy.
Speaker 1: He now works for himself. He used to work for
Speaker 1: thing called five thirty eight ABC News, Okay, that being
Speaker 1: ABC News in the United States. If you read, see
Speaker 1: or hear anyone saying that Trump is leading Harris by
Speaker 1: twenty points, they don't know what Nate Silver does. What
Speaker 1: Nate Silver does is talk about probability of winning. Now,
Speaker 1: it could be winning by one or it could be
Speaker 1: winning by one hundred, but the point is right now
Speaker 1: he sees the race that Kamala Harris came back up
Speaker 1: to where Joe Biden was, which was still remember before
Speaker 1: the debate, last debate, losing to Donald Trump. He believes
Speaker 1: that once you have a look at the polls, you
Speaker 1: have a look at the demographics, you kind of do
Speaker 1: all that stuff, similar to the polling I spoke about before,
Speaker 1: Trump would end up winning in Arizona, Nevada, he would
Speaker 1: win in Georgia, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and a chance of
Speaker 1: taking out the two blue walls, which the book you
Speaker 1: say Harris will win in Michigan and Wisconsin. But let's
Speaker 1: be clear, the debate, I believe is going to be
Speaker 1: a full court press of the media to say Harris
Speaker 1: has now finally hit the bar of being presidential. She
Speaker 1: has finally hit the bar of being ready to lead.
Speaker 1: Now we saw no convention bump. After all those people
Speaker 1: from Oprah to former presidents were saying she's the greatest,
Speaker 1: She's the greatest. The media going nothing happened, nothing happened.
Speaker 1: I think you will see the media trying to immediately
Speaker 1: build the narrative from the second the debate is over,
Speaker 1: that not that she just didn't win, but she is now.
Speaker 1: She doesn't ever have to acknowledge him again. Vibes and
Speaker 1: push forward. Now again, we'll all see. If Trump is terrible,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it, we'll show you the result. All
Speaker 1: of this happens Wednesday at eleven am Australi in Eastern time.
Speaker 1: Read a panicky and I will yes do the sort
Speaker 1: of political goggle box thing where we will sit back
Speaker 1: and we will watch it for you. So if you
Speaker 1: want to see to see the two great mates who
Speaker 1: are obsessed with all of this stuff, giggle, laugh and
Speaker 1: poke fun at these people, we shall do. So. You'll
Speaker 1: see it at sky on news dot com dot a
Speaker 1: U high lots at our show Wednesday night. But as
Speaker 1: for what happened today to show their strength and power.
Speaker 1: Thousands of people turned up in one of those blue
Speaker 1: Wall states, this one in Wisconsin. Again, Democrats supposed to
Speaker 1: be leading here, but as far as the eye could see,
Speaker 1: the crowd was there for Donald Trump, and he ripped
Speaker 1: in old school showing he's ready to go for this
Speaker 1: debate Wednesday morning Australian time, Tuesday night in the US.
Speaker 1: And if you can believe it, fifty nine days from now,
Speaker 1: we are going to win Wisconsin. We're going to defeat
Speaker 1: Comrade Kamala Harris, and we are going to win the
Speaker 1: White House, that gorgeous, beautiful White House. We're going to
Speaker 1: win it. And we're going to turn this country around,
Speaker 1: because this country is a failing nation right now. It's
Speaker 1: a laughing stark all over the world. I love Comrade Kamala. Great,
Speaker 1: if that's the nickname. Let's lock it in. Let's see
Speaker 1: what happens.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: You all know I want Trump to win. But I'm
Speaker 1: going to tell you the Details's going to tell you
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. I'm going to tell you why.
Speaker 1: You're you going to read all the headlines that have
Speaker 1: already decided before she's the debate that she's won the debate.
Speaker 1: As for Harris, she's doing debate PEP prep in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Now that means when she's in between meetings she pops
Speaker 1: out and has these little pre arranged photo things. Why, because,
Speaker 1: of course the room's full of fans or fans know
Speaker 1: she'll be here in an hour, they turn up. She
Speaker 1: doesn't get exposed to anything serious. It's all just people
Speaker 1: who love them, giggle and all the rest of it.
Speaker 1: And that lady you can see the older lady holding
Speaker 1: up her iPhone, Well, wasn't she buying right into the
Speaker 1: garbage that if Donald Trump gets elected the country will
Speaker 1: fall into a fire pit? Have look at this rubbish.
Speaker 5: We're going to be fine.
Speaker 1: We're going to be fine. We are all in this together,
Speaker 1: Yes we are.
Speaker 7: We're gonna be fun, Yes we are.
Speaker 1: But the giveaway as to why that wasn't quite the
Speaker 1: organic moment that you felt. Kamala Harris made an assumption
Speaker 1: that when you walk up to a person of a
Speaker 1: certain age, you're standing next to her person of a
Speaker 1: certain age, and they're hanging out on the weekend together.
Speaker 1: They might know each other. But the reality was the
Speaker 1: old lady, demographically appropriate, was picked to be one of
Speaker 1: those people that were sort of percutchingly worried about Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: to be consoled by the empty pants suit the young
Speaker 1: gen Za again the future is female. Say they pick
Speaker 1: it all right, and the old lady forgot not to
Speaker 1: say that all of it was fake.
Speaker 5: That's right.
Speaker 1: This is a relative of yours.
Speaker 7: Well, you go to a lawyer and it's here, and
Speaker 7: I don't work so much Sheffield.
Speaker 1: Real people, real erosion, real emotions, but not a real moment.
Speaker 1: This was not just a random walking. It was a
Speaker 1: pre plan. There was a setup. You put all the
Speaker 1: demographically appropriate people together, you will assume that they're just
Speaker 1: randomly surging towards see how they do it. Plenty of
Speaker 1: that insight between now and election Day, and plenty of
Speaker 1: the debate tonight on Ladies Night this Sunday evening. If
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Speaker 1: We are hearing conversation with none other than the wonderful
Speaker 1: Linda Scott about to finish up her time on the
Speaker 1: City of Sydney Council and her time advocating for local
Speaker 1: government at a national cabinet. She might be slightly excited
Speaker 1: couple weeks ago. CHRISTI Mxsweening, of course, are different from
Speaker 1: the pr Council. She's joining us now as well. Hello,
Speaker 1: my dear friend. So I'm gonna start with you first, Christy,
Speaker 1: what did you find most interesting about all of that
Speaker 1: scroll of polling that we talked about before that has
Speaker 1: got been there is Look, lots of parts to minority government,
Speaker 1: not a lot of parts to government for the coalition,
Speaker 1: But jeez, issue after issue, sentiment after sendiment. Albo is
Speaker 1: in a world of trouble and he's already spent billions
Speaker 1: of dollars to get to this point.
Speaker 6: Look, momentum is a funny thing in politics, and I
Speaker 6: think the polling is sort of bang on where it
Speaker 6: says fourteen seats are too close to call a too
Speaker 6: close to see a projection this far out. I think
Speaker 6: that there is a chance of the Liberals winning back
Speaker 6: some of the till seats. It won't be all of them.
Speaker 6: And I think there's certainly truth and it does align
Speaker 6: to the strategy that the coalition is progressing win back
Speaker 6: those outer suburban seats on the fringes of our capital cities.
Speaker 6: I will also say this too, there's a lot of
Speaker 6: chat from the East Coast political media because of course
Speaker 6: that is where the media is. I will predict right
Speaker 6: here and now that I think they're going to have
Speaker 6: to learn about Western Australia pretty quickly. We're going to
Speaker 6: go full term to an election after the March eighth
Speaker 6: state election. In Western Australia. There are four seats there
Speaker 6: in WA that Labor hasn't won since they won the
Speaker 6: first time in two thousand and seven, and they didn't
Speaker 6: win them again until two thousand and twenty two. At
Speaker 6: least three of them look very shaky and I wouldn't
Speaker 6: go to an election if I was Labor until I
Speaker 6: could overlay those state election results to see how far
Speaker 6: the gloss is coming off Labor. With four seats there
Speaker 6: in Western Australia, it's going to be a daylight savings election.
Speaker 6: East Coast media, You're going to have three hours to
Speaker 6: wait so called minority or win or lost, and you
Speaker 6: better learn about WA.
Speaker 1: See it's a bit like the American election too. People
Speaker 1: are gonna have to work out Nevada, right, You've got
Speaker 1: to go basically all the way out to California time,
Speaker 1: middle of the middle of the night. In the US,
Speaker 1: I think it'll be the same here. Interestingly, look my
Speaker 1: sense of Western Australian being there last week, and again
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pretend to sort of know it
Speaker 1: inside and out as if I'm living there, but things
Speaker 1: are pretty good there in terms of the local economy, right.
Speaker 1: I think there's definitely a stench around the Prime minister.
Speaker 1: Differently a stench around labor. Whether that's again interrelated with
Speaker 1: the state party. Well, again, that's the issue with Queensland.
Speaker 1: We'll all find out together what frightened in the most
Speaker 1: about all of those poles, because jeez, as a labor person,
Speaker 1: you okay, we're probably going to be get minority, but
Speaker 1: what was the thing where you went? Okay?
Speaker 7: Look, I think Anthony Albanezi is still clearly preferred leader
Speaker 7: and he is still polling when you look at after
Speaker 7: preferences to be able to be likely to form government
Speaker 7: more likely than Peter Dunton. There's no doubt though that
Speaker 7: cost of being pressures are really you know, hitting people's households,
Speaker 7: and that's front of mind for very sensible reasons. I
Speaker 7: do want to say this though, the opposition of released
Speaker 7: two big policies, and both of them, now we've got
Speaker 7: the evidence, will actually hurt cost of living. Right, So
Speaker 7: the drawdown super policy, particularly for young people, likely to
Speaker 7: drive up house prices, but makes people choose between a
Speaker 7: healthy retirement and a house like that's just done reasonable.
Speaker 7: Most adult Australians don't have to choose about that, why
Speaker 7: I should young Australians. And the second one is about
Speaker 7: the cost of nuclear power, right, not putting aside the
Speaker 7: fact that they've said they want to have a power
Speaker 7: plant in Muscle Brook in the Hunter Valley of New
Speaker 7: South Wales. We've just had a massive earthquake there this weekend.
Speaker 7: So I do think Peter Dutton is not playing this
Speaker 7: very well like he might be polling okay because Australian's
Speaker 7: hip pockets are hurting. But his two main policies that
Speaker 7: he is announced are going to make cost of living
Speaker 7: worse and as the election gets closer, people start to
Speaker 7: pay attention to.
Speaker 1: That or so Christy the question I do have to say,
Speaker 1: is Labor down down five points in the election, Libs
Speaker 1: are only up one, so they're spreading kind of everywhere else.
Speaker 1: And then the preference question matters. As I've said a lot.
Speaker 1: I'm mean, I've said it. I remember you know how
Speaker 1: many times in the twenty nineteen election, right, what you
Speaker 1: do with number two will determine who becomes the government?
Speaker 1: All right? If bugging them all or Labour's going to
Speaker 1: get back in all right, If you show the same
Speaker 1: preference discipline on the right with one Nation, UAP, libertarian
Speaker 1: all the rest of it, then twenty nineteen might happen again.
Speaker 1: But again, Christy to that question of what the opposition
Speaker 1: has to do. We know the disillusionment with the government,
Speaker 1: but how do you turn them into the supporters of
Speaker 1: the alternative?
Speaker 6: Well, there's my new show in this, Paul, with you
Speaker 6: mentioning preferences. Right, I think we're going to have a
Speaker 6: position and the Greens have said the gloves are off,
Speaker 6: we're going after your seats. Lab but they're polling fifty
Speaker 6: percent in seats like McNamara and Wheels. They can win
Speaker 6: it out right. They've also got a very high vote
Speaker 6: in seats like Perth. In Western Australia, that's another one
Speaker 6: to watch. The Liberals also have a high vote too,
Speaker 6: but the Labor can't win it without the Greens preferences.
Speaker 6: So Greens preferences of the twenty twenty two election were
Speaker 6: twelve percent nationally. Of course so were higher in some electorates,
Speaker 6: but the national vote was twelve percent. Is tracking upwards.
Speaker 6: So with the Grands saying to Labor, we're going to
Speaker 6: not preference you in some of these seats, and I
Speaker 6: think they're going to go up to about ten seats
Speaker 6: and some of those will be a two term strategy
Speaker 6: that they think they can win. Freemantle in Western Australia
Speaker 6: is another risk of the Greens taking away their preferences.
Speaker 6: For Josh Wilson, that's why Alberneze has made him a
Speaker 6: junior minister to fight the election and give him resources.
Speaker 6: So with we just don't know what the Grains are
Speaker 6: going to do with their preferences. So the coalition's job
Speaker 6: from now on is to drive that wedge between labor
Speaker 6: and the grains and get the Greens to take away
Speaker 6: those preferences in more and more labor states.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously you can produce a how to
Speaker 1: vote card saying you do whatever you want with your
Speaker 1: preferences as long as you go here and finish out
Speaker 1: the things you can't run a just vote one strategy,
Speaker 1: but obviously not going to end up preferencing the Libs.
Speaker 1: But it is going to be fascinating again in relation
Speaker 1: to the ta or game, the Greens are going to
Speaker 1: go about that.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think again we're freemantle.
Speaker 1: They're going to go, you know what, we think you
Speaker 1: should vote the leaders Green vote.
Speaker 7: New South Wales like government elections this coming Saturday, and
Speaker 7: it is people are going to be looking very closely
Speaker 7: at the Greens and how they preference across the one
Speaker 7: hundred and twenty eight so that they're running in more spaces.
Speaker 7: They're very ambitious and they think they're going to take
Speaker 7: some councils. So I think it is Christy is absolutely
Speaker 7: right to say that the Greens are I think threatening
Speaker 7: and possibly likely to preference the Libs above Labor in
Speaker 7: a range of federal seats. They're very ambitious, they've got
Speaker 7: their own agenda, it's very separate from Labors, and I
Speaker 7: think it will be really important to watch how they
Speaker 7: preference and whether they'll be able to keep those sort
Speaker 7: of core environmental people and match them up with their
Speaker 7: other base, you know, particularly people who don't believe in vaccinations.
Speaker 7: You know, they've got an unusual base, the Greens, and
Speaker 7: how they sort of tie them all together and then preference.
Speaker 7: It's a tough job for them, but they're polling very
Speaker 7: well all right now.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that an issue we all thought had
Speaker 1: kind of been resolved or at least was sort of
Speaker 1: part of the mix two years ago, which was what
Speaker 1: questions will be asked with the senses that the governments
Speaker 1: sort have reopened in the past two weeks and like
Speaker 1: all the sort of the snakes jumping out and they've
Speaker 1: just gone everywhere. Right now. I've made this very clear
Speaker 1: last week. Right, this is not advocacy. It's just I'm
Speaker 1: a data guy. Right now, I'm a dumb data guy.
Speaker 1: But still I want to know what's going on. So
Speaker 1: you should ask questions of every possible persuasion right now. Yes,
Speaker 1: you may feel a little confronting when you turn it
Speaker 1: and see gender and it's not two options. You may
Speaker 1: feel a little when it's sexually okay, right, I understand
Speaker 1: all that, But the senses. It's just about knowing how
Speaker 1: many people I hear true information about where they are,
Speaker 1: everything from homelessness to mansions from again men women and yes,
Speaker 1: this is a population of people who don't identify as
Speaker 1: both identify as one. Okay, it's going to be a
Speaker 1: small number, but knowing it's not going to kill anyone.
Speaker 1: But for some reason the government said, oh, we're not
Speaker 1: going to do this because we've got to open up
Speaker 1: division where who was going to blow up about this?
Speaker 1: All right? And remember most people do the census online,
Speaker 1: so it's not like, oh, imagine someone sending you twenty
Speaker 1: eight pages is not going to happen much. People do
Speaker 1: it online now, all right, Now we learn today Jim Chalmers,
Speaker 1: desperately trying to put it all back in the horse
Speaker 1: after letting it out of the horse for no reason whatsoever,
Speaker 1: announced that what we all thought was going to happen
Speaker 1: two weeks ago will actually now still be happening.
Speaker 2: Be in the next census questions on both sexual preference
Speaker 2: and gender identity. There will, David, we'll be adding a
Speaker 2: new topic which covers both sexual orientation and gender. That'll
Speaker 2: be the first time in the twenty twenty six census.
Speaker 2: You know we have listened to the community.
Speaker 1: If you listened, you wouldn't have even started this process.
Speaker 1: But anyway, again, Christy, most people watching don't care for
Speaker 1: the people who do find something about this offensive. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be antagonistic. I'm just saying the reason
Speaker 1: you ask is to have an accurate picture of Australia.
Speaker 6: Look, it's the national document. I don't mind having that data.
Speaker 6: What's wrong with having as much data as possible so
Speaker 6: we can define outcomes and that can feed into various
Speaker 6: policy platforms. The reality is, I mean, particularly I live
Speaker 6: here in Victoria. Despite being a proud West Australian. Somebody
Speaker 6: says to me, there's a lot of you in proud
Speaker 6: Rests Starlings.
Speaker 1: None of you want to live there.
Speaker 6: So I'm here in Melbourne and the reality is in Victoria.
Speaker 6: If you fill out any government form whatsoever, it asks
Speaker 6: you what your sexual orientation is and whether your male
Speaker 6: female non binary. That's okay. That started collecting. I think
Speaker 6: this is a way to have that at a national level.
Speaker 6: A lot of the states do it for various documents,
Speaker 6: certainly in health collection data. But what make it a
Speaker 6: huge issue the cynic in me says the government just
Speaker 6: wanted to either ignore it because they are wary of
Speaker 6: the polls. They think it might be something that might
Speaker 6: offend out a suburban, more traditional labor voters versus inner
Speaker 6: grains voters. I don't know what they overthought in terms
Speaker 6: of this one all.
Speaker 1: Too clever by half right. I'll tell you what they
Speaker 1: were most worried about in a second. But Linda first, right,
Speaker 1: how did this day two weeks? Wasn't this some promise
Speaker 1: somewhere down the back of the bus in and around
Speaker 1: the last election campaign? We just need data and who
Speaker 1: is the conservative group that's been screaming it no? What? Look?
Speaker 7: I think it is welcome that the census is going
Speaker 7: to include questions about the LGBT IQ plus community. It's
Speaker 7: important that we get that information. This does have to
Speaker 7: go through the Parliament though, and so let's be clear.
Speaker 7: It will be a test for Peter dutn't it will
Speaker 7: be a test for the Greens, who've already given some
Speaker 7: signals that they want to vote against this legislation. I agree, Paul,
Speaker 7: it's pretty straightforward, clear legislation. You know, we should be
Speaker 7: listening to the National Statistician and getting these questions into
Speaker 7: the senses. That's a welcome move. I certainly hope that
Speaker 7: people don't play politics with the legislation and that they
Speaker 7: just ticket on through efficiently when Parliament is sitting hopefully
Speaker 7: this week, and we can all just move on with
Speaker 7: what is a really important statist you call document for
Speaker 7: Australia's Look.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you where the worry is going to be here,
Speaker 1: which is when you fill it out. It's fine for
Speaker 1: you know, adult one, adult two. Then you get to
Speaker 1: child one, child too. Right. If the question once you
Speaker 1: hit child gives you that option, people are going to
Speaker 1: find a way to be annoyed about it. Right again,
Speaker 1: you know my thing, which is to leave the kids alone.
Speaker 1: But if there is a very small subset of subset
Speaker 1: of subset of subset of subset of somebody who wants
Speaker 1: to fill that out, then it doesn't change any of
Speaker 1: our lives. Right. If it's pushed on them, fine, I'll
Speaker 1: be the first to be ripping in if there's you know,
Speaker 1: some sort of safe schools program in inner city Victoria
Speaker 1: that's telling the kids how to answer. But otherwise it's
Speaker 1: just a data exercise. Let's see what happens this week
Speaker 1: in Parliament. Quick break back with more. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: the Harris and Trump debate and where to from here.
Speaker 1: There's also a massive and I mean massive news story
Speaker 1: that's just happen in and around that and polling coming
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Speaker 1: it before we're done tonight. So, Linda Scott, Christy McSweeney,
Speaker 1: the Trump Harris debate, I think whatever happens in that
Speaker 1: hour is probably going to be the bit that will
Speaker 1: push it just in this direction or just in that direction,
Speaker 1: and then basically nothing will be able to change it
Speaker 1: from that point. Now, of course, we don't know media
Speaker 1: rights and heart attacks and god forbid, right, but we
Speaker 1: don't know that New York Times has just dropped in
Speaker 1: an opinion poll though, and it says Trump nationally is
Speaker 1: up by one point forty eight to forty seven. Interestingly,
Speaker 1: sixty percent of the country say it's hit it in
Speaker 1: the wrong direction. Fifty three percent of women say they're
Speaker 1: going to vote Harris sent of men, so they're going
Speaker 1: to vote Trump. So the debate you're obviously going to
Speaker 1: be cheering on for sort of the Kamala swing. If
Speaker 1: you could give her the free advice of how to win.
Speaker 1: What is the free advice that? What's the thing you
Speaker 1: want to see? Do you want to see him sort
Speaker 1: of crumble in, not knowing how to antswer, melting like
Speaker 1: the wicked witch of the West, or her going excuse me,
Speaker 1: excuse me, what do you want to see?
Speaker 7: Look, I think nobody can control what Donald Trump's going
Speaker 7: to do with this debate, not even his own team, right.
Speaker 7: This is why they've gone for the format where they
Speaker 7: can sort of mute the microphones. I was joking with
Speaker 7: my teenager son the other day and saying, oh, you know,
Speaker 7: debates don't matter that much, and he went, well, they
Speaker 7: did for Biden.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I.
Speaker 7: Defer to the wisdom of my children. So look, I
Speaker 7: do think the debate will matter, and I do think
Speaker 7: a lot of Americans will be tuning in and will
Speaker 7: it determine whether or not they'll vote for you know, Alb,
Speaker 7: maybe not. Will it determine, though I've talked to you
Speaker 7: about this before. Will it determine whether they turn out
Speaker 7: to vote or not? I reckon yes. This is a
Speaker 7: big motivator for how well you candidate performs, whether you
Speaker 7: get momentum in these final few weeks. Ballot papers go
Speaker 7: out this Friday, you know, this is really on their doorsteps,
Speaker 7: and Americans will tune in, make a decision about whether
Speaker 7: or not to vote, and then that will carry So
Speaker 7: I think this is going to be a critical debate
Speaker 7: for Harris. She's got to perform well. She's got to
Speaker 7: get those clear messages across about how she'll make a difference,
Speaker 7: and the.
Speaker 1: Media will define that she's done all of those things
Speaker 1: even before we begin. And of course we'll do the
Speaker 1: gogglebot political goggle box thing here again. I'll show the
Speaker 1: highlights Wednesday night. Christy, you've got less than a minute here,
Speaker 1: but give me a sense of what you want to
Speaker 1: see out of this.
Speaker 6: Well, I have to go to Parliament and watch our
Speaker 6: own debate, laters, so I'll be watching that one as
Speaker 6: well in the background. Look, she has really struggled to
Speaker 6: stop waffling. People are making fun of the Democrats trying
Speaker 6: to win on the vibe, and I think that's true.
Speaker 6: I think she really needs to start speeding in soundbites
Speaker 6: around policy and around direction and around delivering and less
Speaker 6: waffle and Donald Trump he needs a lot less waffle toe.
Speaker 6: It's a battle of wafflers at this debate. I think
Speaker 6: they both need to be strong.
Speaker 1: My sense is he doesn't have to swing for what
Speaker 1: he seems to be the knockout blow, all right, because
Speaker 1: by struggling and missing and struggling and missing and struggling
Speaker 1: and missing, the perception of the hour is going to
Speaker 1: be he was trying to knock her out and she
Speaker 1: won because she survived. No, No, enjoy the discipline of
Speaker 1: the microphones being on and off. Answer the question that's
Speaker 1: there or not, because right now, going into it, if
Speaker 1: he's in front, he's the one with more to lose.
Speaker 1: Meaning you shrink yourself into a ball, make your way
Speaker 1: through the hour, and then push home whatever lead you've
Speaker 1: already got, and don't fall into the moments. But free advice,
Speaker 1: see what happens. Thank you Linda, Thank you Christy. We'll
Speaker 1: see you again. Next week. That's our show for tonight
Speaker 1: Tuddah