1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: I get a team. Hi. Happy whatever day it is 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: for you. It's nine o two on a planet me 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: nine o two in the am. It's the nineteenth of 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: the third, which makes it a Wednesday. And just got 5 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: back from the cafe talking to a few people, went 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: for a bit of a stroll through suburbia. It's going 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: to be warm today in Melbos, a thriving metropolis. I 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: always default, or periodically default into radio. Don't I ever 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: notice that I do a station idea and a time 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: check and a weather update. All we need to do 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: is go to Brian and the helicopter for a traffic report, 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: and we're fucking radio again. Nonetheless, it's not radio, it's podcast. 13 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: I have been thinking about this thing I want to 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: talk about for a while, and I wrote something over 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: the last few days. I often, this is my process. 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: I often to have an idea, I'll write. The idea 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: could be a few words, it could be a sentence. 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: And I think there's something in this my creative process 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: and my cognitive process for anyone who's interested. And it 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: might be like I've been working on this thing. Notice 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: how my mind goes in seven directions. Once I've been 22 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: working on this thing, for about a week, and it's 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: I want to do whether or not it's going to 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: be an article, whether or not it's going to be 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: a podcast, or whether or not it's going to be 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: a me and someone else podcast or a solo But 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the myriad of variables around 28 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: being overweight, obesity and all of the physiological, psychological, emotional, 29 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: sociological stuff around that. Now, of course that this is 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: fraught with danger in twenty twenty five to talk about 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: such things. So my process is I write down a 32 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: sentence or two, I write an idea, and then I 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: think about how do I be honest and truthful but 34 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: also sensitive and aware, and how do I talk as 35 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: the exercise science guy who's trained thousands of people and 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: got vast, vast experience, but also as the once upon 37 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: a time fat child, fat teenager, and fat adult and 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: integrate all of that in a way where I can 39 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: share some thoughts and ideas around a topic. Then that 40 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: can be polarizing, but that's my process. And then it 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: might take me a week of jotting down things and 42 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: revisiting that page or that document on the computer, or 43 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: writing shit on the whiteboard or taking notes in my phone, 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: I'm off and out for a walk. I'll have an idea. 45 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: I put it in my phone or I either write 46 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: it or record it audio, and it might take a 47 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: month of fucking around back and forth until that initial 48 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: idea becomes a living, breathing for one of a better 49 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: term podcasts, post or conversely, sometimes I'll end up with 50 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: something that's kind of wordy, and I think this is 51 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: all as best I can tell, insightful and interesting and 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: as far as I know true, But it's way too 53 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: fucking long. People are not going to read all this, 54 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: or people are not going to listen to all this. 55 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: So sometimes I go the other way. I start with 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: something big and then I distill it into a twenty 57 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: or thirty word whiteboard message, which becomes a post on Instagram. 58 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: By the way, Instagram's going off like a frog and 59 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: a sock on Planet Jumbo. But anyway, so that is 60 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: my creative and cognitive kind of writing, thinking, recording process. 61 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: It's not very systematic, it's not very slick. It's not 62 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: something I would recommend, But as I always say, we're 63 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what works for you, what works 64 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: for you optimally, what's your best way and so for me, 65 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: it seems to be that like if I sometimes if 66 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: I think, for example, I'm going to write an article 67 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: or I'm going to write something about it doesn't even matter, 68 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: pick a topic. But then I go, I'm going to 69 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: write that, and I'm going to city for sixty minutes, 70 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: and I'm going to write it till it's done and 71 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be good, and then I'm going to 72 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: read it or share it or talk about it. And 73 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: the truth is that sometimes seven minutes into that process, 74 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about breakfast, or I'm distracted with something else, 75 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: or the phone rings, or and so it doesn't always 76 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: work out the way that you want. Where I'm going 77 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: to sit at my computer right now and for I'm 78 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: just going to turn on this creativity switch. I'm going 79 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 1: to turn it on. The tap is going to flow 80 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: for two hours. It's going to be brilliant, and then 81 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: at midday I'll we done and bibbity bobby boo, the 82 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: world will be graced with my journeus. It doesn't work 83 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: like that, right, it doesn't work like that. So anyway 84 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about up the value or lack thereof, 85 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: that was a long precursor wasn't it the value or 86 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: lack of value, the benefit or lack thereof the signs 87 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: or the bullshit, the truth or the untruth. Get to 88 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: it harps of self help, of what we call self help. 89 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: When I say self help, I'm talking about all the 90 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: stuff that gets shared, books, posters, memes, social media, Facebook, Instagram, snapchat, 91 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: whatever that is. No, that's not it is. What's the 92 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: other one? Bloody TikTok? You know, all of those various 93 00:05:52,640 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: mediums and platforms, stuff that comes from a stage, stuff 94 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: on television, stuff on radio, stuff on YouTube, stuff of course, 95 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: on podcasts. And some of that is some of that 96 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: is potentially transformational, Some of it is pseudoscience. Some of 97 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: it is based in ideas and thoughts and philosophies that 98 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: are thousands of years old, like stoicism, and some of 99 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of almost just pop culture garbage. But anyway, 100 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that because I think sometimes 101 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: something gets said or shared or written, and then people 102 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: who maybe don't understand the complexity of a certain topic 103 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: or challenge or idea and the totality of what it 104 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: takes to address that thing, or change that thing or 105 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: create that thing, buy into an over simplification of something, 106 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: and then don't get the results or the outcome that 107 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: they thought they would following this simplistic, overly simplistic, often 108 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: misleading pseudoscience, and then they're devastated. All right, So this 109 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: is what I've written over the last few days. I 110 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: want to share it with you. I'll kind of commentate 111 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: as I go. I've called this the shadow side of 112 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: self help. Sounds sinister, doesn't it. The self help industry 113 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: promises transformation, happiness, and success through simple formulas or more accurately, 114 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: formulae and positive thinking yep, yep. Beneath the shimmering surface 115 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: lies a troubling reality. Much of what passes for self 116 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: help is actually a hodgepodge of feel good platitude, pseudoscience, 117 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: and oversimplified solutions that can often do more harm than good. 118 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: Many popular self help teachings rely on the seductive but 119 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: scientifically dubious law of attraction good oh law of attraction, 120 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: the idea that positive thoughts magically and mysteriously attract positive outcomes. 121 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: This concept ignores the complex reality of systematic barriers, privilege, 122 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: the randomness of inherent life, and a myriad of other 123 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: intersecting and complicating and impacting variables, and when someone fails 124 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: to manifest their desires despite thinking positively, they're often left 125 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: blaming themselves, feeling shitty self loathing, rather than recognizing the 126 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: flawed premise on which they're operating. So, in other words, 127 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: they blame themselves. It's not the principle or the idea 128 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: or the magical concept that's the problem. It's me. I'm 129 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: the problem. I'm not doing it. So this is why 130 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: I say, sometimes self help, or what masquerades its self help, 131 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: is actually not only is it not helpful, it's damaging. 132 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: It's potentially harmful. It's potentially creating problems where there weren't any. 133 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: The self help industry thrives on creating problems, or some 134 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: of it does, on creating problems where none exists, and 135 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: then selling solutions to those fictitious problems. Normal human emotions 136 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: like occasional sadness or anxiety are pathologized as defects requiring intervention. 137 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: This commercialization of discontent creates an endless cycle of seeking 138 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: and purchasing cures for being human. A lot of self 139 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: help content promotes a dangerous indo digitalism by suggesting that 140 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: all problems and all solutions lie within the self. This 141 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: perspective conveniently ignores social, economic, and political factors that profoundly 142 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: impact and shape our lives. Social support, community connection, and 143 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: systemic change are frequently sidelined in favor of individual mindset shifts. 144 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: And while managing our mind, I think is the ultimate 145 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: challenge for us humans as we navigate life on the big, 146 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: big blue revolving ball. Put your teeth back in harps. 147 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: There are a bunch of, as I always talk about, 148 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: external out of our control variables that are going to 149 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: impact us as well. So we need need to navigate 150 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: both that internal world of us and that external world 151 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: that we inhabit. Perhaps most concerning is how self help 152 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: can function as a form of gas lighting. And when 153 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: people facing genuine hardship are told their circumstances result from 154 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: negative thinking or insufficient gratitude, it trivializes their struggles and 155 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: deflects attention from addressing real injustice. True personal growth often 156 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: involves embracing complexity, sitting with discomfort, and acknowledging that there 157 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: are no universal solutions. It requires critical thinking and discernment, 158 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: precisely the qualities that many self help gurus discourage In 159 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: favor of unquestioning belief and that whole kind of three 160 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: steps two five steps two. You know, here's my solution paradigm. 161 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: Join the thought cult, believe me by the idea, by 162 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: the program. You know. And while there are great programs, 163 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: there are great you know, presenters, there are great books, 164 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: there are great teachers. Just like in any field, there's 165 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: also the opposite. And as you know, I suggest here 166 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: all the time that Craig Harper is not the solution 167 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: to anything. In fact, I'm of myself, I'm no value 168 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: to you. I'm not the solution, but rather the guy 169 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: that is trying to steer you towards a solution, like 170 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: the conduit to ideas and strategies and information and resources 171 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: and perhaps knowledge and awareness and insight, none of which 172 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: is me. I'm just pointing towards that stuff. And if 173 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: I get, if I get to the point where I'm 174 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: trying to convince you that I'm the answer for you, 175 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: which I'll never get there. But if somehow I did, 176 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: you should definitely unfollow, unsubscribe, and not listen anymore. While 177 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: there are evidence based approaches to improving well being, they 178 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: really come packing in the simple marketable formulas that dominate 179 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 1: best seller lists. Real help might be less glamorous than 180 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: its self help counterpart, but it offers something far more valuable. 181 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: A significant portion of self help content is designed to 182 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: be emotionally uplifting rather than practically useful. And while it's 183 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: good to have a little bit of a emotional or 184 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: motivational or inspirational inputs, we still need to be strategic. 185 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,959 Speaker 1: We still need to be able to solve real world 186 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: problems with real world practical strategies and solutions and phrases 187 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: like just believe in yourself or think positive, or I 188 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: can be all you can be, or you can do 189 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: anything you achieve. It sounds great, but it's just it's 190 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: just not helpful. It's inspiring, but it doesn't. It doesn't 191 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: add any real value or substance. And while mindset NOTTIM 192 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: is a matter, they're not on their own. They're not 193 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: magic bullets. The oversimplification of complex psychological, emotional, sociological, interpersonal, 194 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: and behavioral changes leads people to believe that motivation alone 195 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: is enough, when in reality, meaningful change requires effort, discipline, 196 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: self control, strategy, and sometimes professional guidance. Many self help 197 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: gurus make bold claims without scientific backings, pseudo scientific ideas 198 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: psychobabble such as rewhyre your brain instantly, really or raise 199 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: your vibrational frequency to attract success, misleading audiences to thinking 200 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: that there are shortcuts to personal growth reward without work, 201 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: getting to the top of the hill without doing any climbing. 202 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: And while neuroscience and psychology provide evidence based strategies for change, 203 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: these also take time and effort and consistency. It's not 204 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: some instant rewiring of the brain or mystical magical energetic shift. 205 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: Even widely accepted self help principles, like the idea that 206 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: it takes twenty one days to form a habit, that 207 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: it's not true. That's based in myth. There's no research 208 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: around that. There's no rigorous studies or science around that. 209 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: The reality is that behavioral change varies significantly among individuals 210 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: and depends on multiple factors, including reinforcement, environment, and psychological conditioning. 211 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: And think about the idea that you know, we go 212 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: twenty one days to form a habit. And also, I 213 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: think they say some people say break a habit, Well, 214 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: what if the habit I'm trying to break is a heroine, 215 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: a heroin addiction or whatever. It's that I should swear 216 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: less or whatef. It's that I should cut back on 217 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: my coffee from five to two a day. I mean 218 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: the idea that there is an arbitrary number of days 219 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: to form a habit or break a habit. I mean, 220 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: even just thinking logically, when we think of the myriad 221 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: of variables around the different types of addiction that exist 222 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: or habits that we want to make or break, and 223 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: then you think about the other variable of the individual, 224 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: like we are all psychologically, emotionally, energetically, biologically, physiologically, neurologically different. Now, 225 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: of course you know, of course you and I will 226 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: not change the same habit or create the same habit, 227 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: or eat the same food, or do the same thing 228 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: and produce the same outcome in the same amount of time, 229 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: because we ain't the same. And so this this idea 230 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: that pervades in you know, this pop psychology, self help 231 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: personal development space of you know, the three five seven 232 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: step plan to anything creates more problems and disappointment and 233 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: frustration for people than it does happiness, joy and long 234 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: term success. I guess another dangerous aspect of the self 235 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: help world is toxic positivity. So that's the idea that 236 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: you should always be happy and grateful and optimistic no 237 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: matter what. And while fostering a positive outlook and you know, 238 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: being the solution focused person is beneficial, but suppressing or 239 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: ignoring negative emotions can lead to emotional repression, increased stress, 240 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: and even a decline in mental health. So we're we're 241 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: of the problems. Like real self help acknowledges struggles and 242 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: successes and doesn't pretend that life should be all fucking sunshine, affirmations, 243 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: Disney movies and puppies. So where yep, life sometimes is 244 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: a motherfucker. It's messy, it's uncomfortable, it's unfair. Bad things 245 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: happen to good people, you know, people that we love die, 246 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: people that we love get sick, you know, all of 247 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: that stuff that you know. But in the middle of 248 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: all of that, the variable that we're trying to control 249 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: as much as possible is our thinking and choices and 250 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: behaviors and actions and reactions. But at the same time, 251 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: we're human. We're going to have good days and bad days. 252 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: We're going to get grumpy, we're going to get happy, 253 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: We're going to get sad, We're going to get pissed off, 254 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: We're going to get joyful, where we're going to find solutions, 255 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: we're going to obsess about problems that don't yet exist. 256 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: And then, as I always say, it's lunchtime. So this 257 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: is the part out of the human experience that you know, 258 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: I think we need to acknowledge we're not chasing perfection. Hopefully, 259 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: we're chasing improvement and growth and development in an intelligent, 260 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: maintainable way. I think also, you know, the self help industry, 261 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: if that's the right word, it can subtly suggest that 262 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: if you're not happy or you're not successful, then that's 263 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: your fault. Well, again, so many different factors that influence that, 264 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: and this kind of thinking can lead to unnecessary guilt 265 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: and self blame, and then the process ignore systemic environmental, financial, practical, 266 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: and psychological factors that influence all of us and our 267 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: well being and our mindset and our happiness and our 268 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: day to day, moment to moment experience. And not only 269 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: there is some self help advice misleading and doesn't lead 270 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: to a good outcomes or positive change. But sometimes it's damaging, 271 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: sometimes it's harmful. So advice like quit your job and 272 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: follow your passion, well, I think people should try and 273 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: find something that feels less like work and more like 274 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: a passion. I do think that, But at the same time, 275 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: I don't think we need to make that decision on 276 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: Monday and leave the job on Tuesday. If we're not 277 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: in a financial or practical situation to make that work. 278 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: And while it sounds appealing, it can be financially reckless. 279 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: But what we can do is we can take that 280 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: idea I would like to do something else. I would 281 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: like to get out of this job, or this industry 282 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: or this situation, and over time strategize and create a 283 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: pathway towards something that's much better than what we're going 284 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 1: to what we're currently doing. But stepping out of it 285 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: having an idea at twelve o'clock and throwing in the 286 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: toile at one pm probably not a great plan. Having 287 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: said all of that, I'm not saying that all self 288 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: help is bad. I literally live in the self help, 289 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: personal development, human behavior space. I like to think, you know, 290 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: as somebody who's falling towards the finished line of a 291 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: doctorate in psychology, I'd like to think that the stuff 292 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: that I share is hopefully use a friendly and it 293 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: makes sense, but it's also pretty sound in terms of 294 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: its scientific rigor. But as always, you know, I don't 295 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: believe something that I say because it seems to make sense. 296 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: Don't automatically believe it because of that or you like me, 297 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: But maybe consider it and take it for a test drive. 298 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: As I always say, if I say something that to 299 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: you seems like a good idea, then perhaps put it 300 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: into practice for a minute or a moment or an hour, 301 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: and then see what happens and do your own research. 302 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: So there's a valuable guidance out there, grounded in psychology, 303 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: behavioral science, real world kind of application. But I think 304 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 1: it's it's crucial that we all approach self help with 305 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: a critical mindset. So I've got a few questions that 306 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: I think are pertinent that we should ask ourselves as 307 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: we consider taking on a piece of advice that we 308 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: get from wherever it is, whether it's from a podcast 309 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: or a whiteboard post or someone else's ig or whatever 310 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: it is Facebook doesn't matter. The question one is is 311 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: this evidence based or just anecdotal? Now, just because something, 312 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: just because there isn't research on something, doesn't mean that 313 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: that anecdote might not be valuable or insightful. But it's 314 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: good to distinguish. It's good to know that just because 315 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: old mate Craig doesn't eat lunch, and just because Craig 316 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: gets good results on two meals a day, and just 317 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: because Craig does X, Y and Z, right, Well, that's 318 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: all anecdotal, that's all lived experience, that's all my experience, right, 319 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: And while that's evidence based in the one of one sense, 320 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: it's not broadly representative of everybody. So back to that. 321 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 1: You know, this is what I do, and this is 322 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: this is my protocol, this is how I did it. 323 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: These were the outcomes based on these outcomes, this started 324 00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: these results, this is my interpretation, this is what I did, 325 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: this is why I did it, and this is what 326 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: I got. Right Now, we can also do a deep 327 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: dive into the science and we can look at broader 328 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: research and we can see what's happened on mass or 329 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: we can see what the science tells us about certain 330 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: protocols or certain treatments or certain programs or whatever it is. 331 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: But it's always good to you know, even if somebody 332 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: that you like and respect gives you a bit of 333 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: advice that seems to make sense, it's always good to 334 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: do a little bit more research. Inform yourself, or maybe 335 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: even if you want to be really boring, go and 336 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: read a few papers and a few studies. If you 337 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: don't know how to do that, it's probably not a 338 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: terrible thing to do to go into somewhere like Google scholar, 339 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: which is a really good starting point Google scholar to 340 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: be able to start to get an insight into reading 341 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 1: some kind of first hand research. And what's really good 342 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: about now is twenty twenty five. Now is you might 343 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: read something that and so much, especially that kind of 344 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: high level academic research paper stuff is mumbo jumbo. Well 345 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: it's true, most of it's true, but it's in language 346 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: that's very hard to decipher and understand sometimes. But you 347 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: can literally download those articles in the chap GP or 348 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: Claude or whatever AI you use, if you use AI 349 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: and say, can you explain this ten page report or 350 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: this ten page journal article in one page of user 351 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: friendly language, and it'll do it for you. So there's that. 352 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: The next question that we might want to ask in 353 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: terms of thinking critically about self help is does this 354 00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: piece of advice offer real solutions to real problems, to 355 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: real complicated, real world problems and or challenges, or is 356 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: it a drastic over simplification that just sounds good. The 357 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: next question is does this piece of advice encourage self awareness, 358 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: self reflection, critical thinking and action, or just passive agreement 359 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: and conformity, like I think anything that doesn't make you think, 360 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: Like hopefully this little extravaganza right now makes you think 361 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: and it gets you to do a deeper dive, because ultimately, 362 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, the world's your classroom. Every day is a 363 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: lesson you're the student. But also you know you need 364 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: to choose who your teachers are, who you're going to 365 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: listen to, and that you know that's a myriad of 366 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: people and a myriad of resources. But you need to 367 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: be discerning in terms of who you pay attention to 368 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: because there's you know, so much stuff available and perhaps 369 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: even more discerning I should say about who you trust. 370 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:36,360 Speaker 1: Next question is is this information backed by you know, experts, science, 371 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: legit information or is it just is it a sales pitch? 372 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: Is that marketing? Is it clever marketing thinly disguised as 373 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: some kind of science, And there's so much of that, 374 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: so much of that. My next question is what is 375 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: my data telling me? What are my results, my outcomes 376 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: telling me? Because you and I are always producing results, 377 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: and if we're smart, we'll pay attention to those results. 378 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: We'll correlate the results back to our behavior, and will 379 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: correlate our behavior back to our intention and our goal 380 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: setting out, and then the data will tell us what 381 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: is working, what is not working, what is efficient, what 382 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: is inefficient. And so I think sometimes some of the 383 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: best lessons and the best insights and the best moments 384 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: of awareness and awakening is not to listen to Craig Harper, 385 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: but to listen to yourself, to listen to your body, 386 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: to listen to your own data. And I think, you know, 387 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: just while all of this stuff is, you know, not 388 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: all of this Some of this stuff is informative and 389 00:28:53,040 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: interesting and potentially helpful and supportive and inspirational. Your life 390 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: is the project, like your life is an ongoing research process. 391 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: If you make that. That is why, of course I 392 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: call this show that you project is because, and I've 393 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: said it many times, but on Planet You, you are 394 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: the project. The project. On Planet You is the person 395 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: in the mirror. You're trying to manage your mind and 396 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: your emotions. You're trying to manage your choices, You're trying 397 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: to manage your actions and reactions. You're trying to manage 398 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: your energy and your emotions and your feelings and your 399 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: doubts and your insecurity. You know, you're trying to manage relationships. 400 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: You're trying to manage your talent and resources. Like that 401 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: is you every day showing up to the cold face. 402 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: That is you trying to manage you. You know, you 403 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: are the project. You are the study. You are the researcher, 404 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: and you are the participant. You are the n equals 405 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: one on planet you. Yeah, real personal growth. It's not 406 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: about shortcuts or magical thinking or relentless positivity. It's about 407 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: It's about you, understanding you. It's about self awareness. It's 408 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 1: about effort. It's about work. It's about being the calm 409 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: and the chaos. It's about being the solution person. It's 410 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: about being able to deal with the unfairness, the bullshit, 411 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: the mayhem, the good days the bad days. Yeah, it's 412 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: all that. It's all that. It's all that real world, 413 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: practical stuff that is not necessarily holding out a hand 414 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: for money. It's not necessarily someone trying to manipulate or 415 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: coerce you into another program or product or something. And 416 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: it's really it's just ultimately, it's universal wisdom and insight 417 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: that we can all tap into if it's the right stuff. 418 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I rambled there. You know. You know 419 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: when you get to the end of your thing, this 420 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: is what I do. I'm just going to ramble now, 421 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: fucking you know when you get to the end of 422 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: your thing and you go, fucking now, I was going good. 423 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm just going to give you my honest self assessment. Now. 424 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: I felt like I was going good then for a while. 425 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: Then I got a bit waylaid and distracted. This is 426 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: the problem with me. This is the problem. This is 427 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: a learning moment for me and maybe few This is 428 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 1: the problem. When I freestyle, things are clearer and I 429 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: don't get tripped up. Like right now, I'm freestyling. There's 430 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: nothing written down. I didn't plan to do this. But 431 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: when I go, oh, I'm going to write something, and 432 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to share that shit that I've written. And 433 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: then as I'm reading to you, as I'm going through 434 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: my dot points or my paragraphs, I realize as I 435 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: say it out loud, eh, this fucking reads better than 436 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: it sounds, you know. Um, But anyway, I will solder on, 437 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: I will keep doing I like you. I will keep 438 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: doing my very best to be better for me and 439 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: also for you. I will do my very best to 440 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: be a better teacher and coach and mentor and podcaster 441 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: and you, for better or worse. While I was going 442 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: to say you will, you will be part of my 443 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: fuck up. So you may not. You may go not 444 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: last episode. I'm out. Don't blame you anyway. Let's see 445 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: how much of this stuff we can get through together. 446 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: Love your collective guts is. Have a good day. It's 447 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: now nine thirty eight. I'm a little peckish. See you tomorrow.