Speaker 1: All right, we're back for another episode of the Daily
Speaker 1: Telegraph Inerial podcast. Adam mobs here with Phil Rothfield, and
Speaker 1: we're waiting for Michael Carryanas to shout us some lunch
Speaker 1: because you got plenty of fresh cash.
Speaker 2: After that, I blew it.
Speaker 3: Did you lose?
Speaker 2: I lost?
Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I thought you join us? You and I not gone
Speaker 2: for the dogs? Buzz right breath, So yeah.
Speaker 1: It was he a bulldog or a rooster or a
Speaker 1: tiger rabbit. He's definitely got a tiger. Tell a funny story.
Speaker 2: So my parents help when I do three sixty on Wednesdays,
Speaker 2: they come over and help Clara with the two kids. Anyway,
Speaker 2: came Homan. There was a fifty dollar note on the table, right,
Speaker 2: I said, what's going on? Dad felt bad because he
Speaker 2: made me follow the dragons.
Speaker 4: He did not he hasn't.
Speaker 2: He listens to the poet. And I said a screen.
Speaker 2: I said it to break this morning. It is a
Speaker 2: good man. His fault.
Speaker 4: That's not his.
Speaker 1: It's not his fault. You're reckless with your money. That
Speaker 1: might be parenting as well, I guess, so.
Speaker 2: So thanks that appreciate I reckon.
Speaker 4: We should start my podcast each week with a little
Speaker 4: thing about your week and who you're dirty on about
Speaker 4: your week?
Speaker 2: Or we don't have to be dirty on someone every week.
Speaker 4: I'm not always dirty on someone. You get dirty on
Speaker 4: someone every week every week?
Speaker 2: He would, she would not every week?
Speaker 4: You know, get scooped morning.
Speaker 3: He's a funny story.
Speaker 4: I'm absolutely filthy on this reading. Well, he's back in
Speaker 4: the country. Poor bags got jet leg and I had
Speaker 4: to deal with him. I do three Triple M shows
Speaker 4: for him. I've got to do a fourth. Maybe he
Speaker 4: was supposed to be back here to day. Is he
Speaker 4: taking commission? Mobs knows I'm part time self cell trader,
Speaker 4: cell trader. It made I've been called in again off
Speaker 4: the band because of his jet pack and I'm saturabay.
Speaker 2: Does he get a sling for giving you that on Saturday?
Speaker 2: Or you just take it all?
Speaker 4: Doesn't get a penny?
Speaker 1: Did Dave Riquet get a sling for your s n
Speaker 1: I think there's my five minute crisis.
Speaker 2: Is not worth day's time to ask for?
Speaker 4: It's worth more than a fifty bucksher old man put out.
Speaker 2: Not as much as you get on Triple every one Saturday.
Speaker 4: Oh well, no comment, that's FM radio. They've got budgets, budgets.
Speaker 4: So I really enjoyed scooping yesterday. But let's talk about
Speaker 4: he wants to tell the story. Well, off you go,
Speaker 4: there was.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not a verse to an earlier or late
Speaker 1: night fanc or you book end of my day yesterday
Speaker 1: I do first phone call seven a m. Last phone
Speaker 1: call nine ten eleven, last night the fair whack, fair
Speaker 1: whack of the days.
Speaker 4: Out doing his TV. So I was coming for him and.
Speaker 1: True, so Buzz calls with the breaking news that Vale
Speaker 1: Holmes is going to be a dragon for the next
Speaker 1: three years. We turn around a really quick story and
Speaker 1: away we go. We're up online and then Captain Snooze
Speaker 1: here to my left, who if that story had broken
Speaker 1: at any point in the previous two and a half weeks,
Speaker 1: you would have been up out of bed because you
Speaker 1: were doing the Ricky O.
Speaker 2: S E. N shift for the two and a half years.
Speaker 1: Because Dave was back in the country and overcome his
Speaker 1: jet lag deck copping on sn This guy was in
Speaker 1: Blanket Bay and missed the miss the scoop.
Speaker 4: The funny thing was saying this to our audience, our
Speaker 4: huge audience. We both got the tip from the same bait.
Speaker 4: The same text val is a Dragon was six twenty
Speaker 4: six am mix was six twenty.
Speaker 2: Seven alphabetical order.
Speaker 4: First, can I sell you're blaming mine alphabetical order for
Speaker 4: me scooping that will officially.
Speaker 2: Do matete now and again.
Speaker 4: You've just got to cope with it.
Speaker 2: You did.
Speaker 4: He's doing around a long time. He's got a few commods.
Speaker 2: It's nice of you to come to the Valentine Holmes
Speaker 2: party and follow me in for the last month.
Speaker 1: Oh well, can I add this one of the mix
Speaker 1: that Valholm's management might be relatively tight with a certain
Speaker 1: colleague of ours out of Brisbane. Yes, Peter Bdell, who
Speaker 1: might be a little upset that he was thirty thousand
Speaker 1: feet in the air when this deal was. He'd be
Speaker 1: filthy upset anyway, a little bit of good job, buddy,
Speaker 1: still got a mate.
Speaker 3: Still got it.
Speaker 4: We're team mates. It's by both names on the story.
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Look.
Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts. Won we obviously legally
Speaker 1: we can't talk too much on this. But the photo
Speaker 1: that I'm merged this week, buzz another one of yours.
Speaker 3: You're first up with.
Speaker 1: This one to speak of the photo of Latrell Mitchell,
Speaker 1: which was taken without his consent, which shows him appearing
Speaker 1: to be leaning over a table with a white substance
Speaker 1: on it.
Speaker 3: Where are we at with that?
Speaker 4: Well, the integrity end is still looking into it and
Speaker 4: you know, lining up all their facts as they have
Speaker 4: to do. And I'm not sure that if there's been
Speaker 4: any admission at all about the white substance that was
Speaker 4: looked appeared to be on the table when he was
Speaker 4: an hotel rem and Dubba. I will say this though,
Speaker 4: if when the NROL get to a stage, if they
Speaker 4: need to hand out a punishment, I'm saying, if they
Speaker 4: need to, because all this is alleged, it will not
Speaker 4: be as heavy as Vale Holmes. Val Holmes was a
Speaker 4: heavy one from the integrity unit because he published the photo.
Speaker 4: He took the photo and he then published it. So
Speaker 4: he bought the thing gone wrong, Yeah, the brank gone
Speaker 4: wrong with a bag of white.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So Latrell is a completely different story in that whatever
Speaker 4: happened in that room through no fault of his own,
Speaker 4: even though he's obviously with the wrong crowd that the
Speaker 4: photo appeared. So they are different, Mick, and I think
Speaker 4: that his penalty, if there is one will be more
Speaker 4: similar to Brandon Smith, and I think it was Cameron Munster.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be interested to see how layers out because
Speaker 2: while the photo may not be his own doing.
Speaker 3: It's a bad look for the game and.
Speaker 2: It's but vou put his out there.
Speaker 4: Latrell didn't.
Speaker 2: Yes, with all these cases, I get it, but I'll
Speaker 2: I'll reserve my judgment for when the NRL hand down
Speaker 2: their penalty. But I'm not comfortable that at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure, And look Vow Vow homes and then and also
Speaker 1: the Storm Trio were all the NRL hit them with
Speaker 1: breech notices for bringing the game into disrepute because there's
Speaker 1: no there's no suggestions or allegations of illicit use or
Speaker 1: illicit substances.
Speaker 3: It was but so Val.
Speaker 1: Got what one hundred thousand with was it half suspended?
Speaker 1: And he got suspended from a test match, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Mitch Kenney got done for a stupid comment
Speaker 2: on Instagram.
Speaker 1: On Instagram, yes, and Munster and co got fined stuff
Speaker 1: on himself.
Speaker 4: The f bomb tirade, you know, and putting into the
Speaker 4: Spencerlanu thing when he shouldn't. It was subject to inquiry
Speaker 4: but this occasion, he did not put the photo out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he still brought upon himself for a that situation.
Speaker 2: That's totally Yeah. I wait to see where this ends up.
Speaker 4: Did he bring the game into disrepute? The person who
Speaker 4: took the fart on distributed to bring the game into disrepute, that's.
Speaker 2: What his actions, alleged actions. Yeah, if you don't put
Speaker 2: yourself in that situation, there is no photo, harsh Man Mick,
Speaker 2: not at all.
Speaker 1: What about the year that Littrell has had from and
Speaker 1: you know this is one of the kids called this
Speaker 1: main character Energy because they start at the start of
Speaker 1: the season in in Las Vegas and then, as you said,
Speaker 1: was quick to defend as from Man got in a
Speaker 1: public slanging match with with Anthony Mundine fronted in front
Speaker 1: of Chin Chin restaurant here in Surrey Hills over alleged.
Speaker 4: Taken care of that, got physical. Have you seen how
Speaker 4: fit the Great Man is the Golden He is very
Speaker 4: fit take care of Latrell. If it had come to.
Speaker 2: It, maybe the Rose Boys can light it up bus well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people. I'll go and break this corner.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Braid would love to. Maybe he would.
Speaker 4: I used to go right, made, I used to go right,
Speaker 4: don't worry about me.
Speaker 2: Bruise are great.
Speaker 3: Yeh know.
Speaker 4: Next, let's next topic.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just can't believe the trills. It just
Speaker 1: there's so much that goes on outside. This is the
Speaker 1: guy that flew to Mare with the premiere.
Speaker 4: So he does I reckon he does more good than
Speaker 4: bad the.
Speaker 1: Of course, and look there's obvious missteps, but he puts
Speaker 1: himself out there. He just it's not one of those
Speaker 1: you know when the critics always say shut up and play,
Speaker 1: and it just he's never gonna be on there.
Speaker 3: And I don't en courage anyone to just shut up
Speaker 3: and play. But that's a lot that he takes on.
Speaker 2: Let's see what the NR will come up with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah right, Michael, nice contribution. Yeah, you're going good.
Speaker 4: I haven't said anything. You said you're uncomfortable and I
Speaker 4: don't like you do.
Speaker 1: Well. I'm a little tired because, as I said, you
Speaker 1: booked my days yesterday and you called late last night
Speaker 1: with this.
Speaker 4: Next, shall we getting.
Speaker 1: An invoice enterall Hall of Fame induction? We were chapening
Speaker 1: the eleven names that were inducted into that Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame which is going to be held at that ceremony
Speaker 1: next week when the immortals are announced. And then we
Speaker 1: see on social media Dalel Browman blowing up about the
Speaker 1: inclusion of one less boyd.
Speaker 4: Yeah. One thing I'd like to point out to Darryl
Speaker 4: is that it's not a best and Fairest award. It's
Speaker 4: a Hall of fame. Nol Kelly's been in forever and
Speaker 4: he was sent off seventeen times when he played rugby league,
Speaker 4: so fearlessly for his various clubs and his state in
Speaker 4: his country. And so look, I can understand it's a
Speaker 4: topic for debate. I really can, because Les had the
Speaker 4: most horrific judiciary record, But there's no criteria. When you
Speaker 4: sit down to judge these thinks. There's fifteen people in
Speaker 4: the room. You get a list of names. Roy Masters
Speaker 4: did speak. You know, Roy coached this for a long
Speaker 4: period of time and spoke in his favor. And then
Speaker 4: everyone was given a piece of paper. You had to
Speaker 4: write down your five names from five to four three
Speaker 4: two one. They had them up and he was in there.
Speaker 4: And look, I don't care what I didn't vaite for him,
Speaker 4: But I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there
Speaker 4: either because you know what, everyone in that room is
Speaker 4: entitled an opinion, and there was a very good mixture
Speaker 4: of people who've been around for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: season's been made.
Speaker 2: Well, I can understand he's as towards it. But when
Speaker 2: you're in when you're in the room and you're you're
Speaker 2: sitting down and you're going through this process, they don't
Speaker 2: mention the judiciary record or anything like that at always.
Speaker 4: It just there's a tip shoot on every player and
Speaker 4: what they've done and that included. But everyone in that
Speaker 4: room was fully aware of it. You didn't need.
Speaker 2: That course, Yeah, and I.
Speaker 4: You know, and I'm sure the people who did vote
Speaker 4: for him looked at his Test match record. He was
Speaker 4: a sensational particularly in England, and he did play in
Speaker 4: an era when there was you could get away more
Speaker 4: than you do now, not that he got away with it.
Speaker 4: He was very heavily punished.
Speaker 1: Was it nine months for the year for a year
Speaker 1: for the yeah, the elbow to the broke browman's jaw,
Speaker 1: and then twelve more months for eye gouging great Billy Johnson.
Speaker 4: So he's crely lost three seasons of his career plus
Speaker 4: about thirty grand. I think it was in a civil
Speaker 4: court case.
Speaker 2: If it wasn't for that, I don't obviously he holds
Speaker 2: too young to watch him play buzz was he was?
Speaker 2: He on merit, good enough to.
Speaker 4: Mate, thunder thighs, big backside, just powerhouse. And he was
Speaker 4: a fear player, you know, he was so strong edge forwards,
Speaker 4: played different to what they did back then and needed
Speaker 4: in test match football and in origin that the fear
Speaker 4: factor player, you know, someone who you didn't want to
Speaker 4: mix with, and that was the game back then. He
Speaker 4: did able to step the mark badly a couple of times,
Speaker 4: because I said, it's not a best and fair we
Speaker 4: judged him as a footballer and I personally didn't have
Speaker 4: him in my list, but I'm not going to bag
Speaker 4: anyone who did.
Speaker 1: Ye.
Speaker 3: What about Michael Carriana's growing up?
Speaker 2: I felt old today last night I felt old because
Speaker 2: you look at all the players on that list, apart
Speaker 2: from two of them I saw well, I saw almost
Speaker 2: all their careers except for Steve Ranolf and been a Leis.
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of Steve Renoff's career, and I
Speaker 2: caught the tent and of Benny A Lice. The rest
Speaker 2: of the Hall of Fame in ductor Is. I saw
Speaker 2: all their careers for the first time has happened.
Speaker 4: And that's good because you know, people are like our
Speaker 4: kids or you know who were football fanatics and you know,
Speaker 4: I've got there, Cameron Smith's in it now and you
Speaker 4: know the Billy Slater's and the Thurston's. I think that's
Speaker 4: important and that these awards are relevant to the younger generation,
Speaker 4: not just old timers.
Speaker 2: And I can't argue with any of those guys that
Speaker 2: have been inducted. And it was really good to say
Speaker 2: Bennie las On three sixty last night in the green
Speaker 2: room he came in and he was the proudest bloke
Speaker 2: on the planet to cry Mick on people in the
Speaker 2: in the green room before he went on. He just
Speaker 2: walked into the room with a beaming smile, with his
Speaker 2: chest out and just so proud and so happy to
Speaker 2: you know, great mate Blockers already in the Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame and he goes, Block you were in together, mate,
Speaker 2: You know, it was really it was. It was really
Speaker 2: great to see the genuine emotion and how proud he
Speaker 2: was to be up in the What did.
Speaker 4: They have for dinner in the green room? Pizza.
Speaker 2: We had.
Speaker 4: Greek All right, did you stop and have a break
Speaker 4: from meeting to congratulate Benning? Yeah, because I know you
Speaker 4: love your attacker. You love your attacker, don't you we all?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so it was it was good. It was good.
Speaker 2: But all those players, I think we're all outstand who
Speaker 2: missed out? Buzz who's sort of some of the names
Speaker 2: that Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is that a secret? Or is that we had a
Speaker 4: list of thirty. I don't have the list here, but
Speaker 4: Brandy's not in there yet, is he? Greig Alexander? I'd
Speaker 4: be looking at him next time. Yeah, a bit closer.
Speaker 4: I should have bought my list in they're champions, are Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know it is so hard, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm just glad that I'll say this often. I just
Speaker 2: hate this fact in sport and in life we celebrate
Speaker 2: people too late. But these are all young guys, and
Speaker 2: they're all Hall of famers, So get him in the
Speaker 2: Hall of fame.
Speaker 4: Penny of Life said something beautiful when on TV last
Speaker 4: night he said, Mum and Dad aren't around us here
Speaker 4: it Yeah, and to show and talks about what you're saying,
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Comes, you know, And that's on with you. I think
Speaker 1: you know because Cameron Smith is Karen Smith.
Speaker 2: Is an immortal. Okay, I don't think anyone. I haven't
Speaker 2: heard anyone say he's not an immortal. So induct him
Speaker 2: next week. He's an immortal. What do we wait for? Well,
Speaker 2: they're only going to induct one mate, only one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's still the best. What do you think that, I'm
Speaker 2: just doing the t go on. I still think he
Speaker 2: should be in. I'd have him in. I think I
Speaker 2: don't think anyone thinks he's not going to be in immortals.
Speaker 4: Well, he can be an immortal. He might be in
Speaker 4: a mortal next week because they've moved a five year
Speaker 4: limit a three year limit, and there's no question he will.
Speaker 2: Be in immortal So why do we wait then, buzz.
Speaker 4: Because they have it is the most precious recognition.
Speaker 2: I understand it.
Speaker 5: But if you're so so exclusive, I'm only in the
Speaker 5: room who might have thought that Brett Kenny was wrongly
Speaker 5: overlooked previously, that Ron Coot was wrongly over that Peter Sterling,
Speaker 5: or I know someone in the room.
Speaker 4: I know someone in the room Vader for Alfie Langer,
Speaker 4: and I'm not going to mention her because I asked afterwards.
Speaker 4: I understand, So you've got to acknowledge history. I get
Speaker 4: all that, Buzz, I understand, and this is not a knock.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying don't if you got if there is
Speaker 4: there a belief that those guys should be an immortal,
Speaker 4: no worries. But do you believe kemps Me should be
Speaker 4: a model. Of course he's but it wednesday. If we
Speaker 4: do it next year, what's the problem.
Speaker 2: Why do we wait on these things.
Speaker 4: Because Peter Valandi's runs the show? Only let us do one?
Speaker 2: Well? I would have we're talking about exclusive. I've been
Speaker 2: pretty I've said John's and smith that's it from my generation,
Speaker 2: that's it. To keep it exclusive. I don't kept we
Speaker 2: don't induct another one for ten years. Doesn't bother me,
Speaker 2: fifteen years, whatever the case may be. But Cam'smiths and
Speaker 2: a mortal get him in there. What do you think, Buzz?
Speaker 2: Get your opinion. I think Brett Kenny should be one.
Speaker 2: But am I suffering ills biased with that? I loved
Speaker 2: watching Bret Kenny play. He was the ultimate eyes up
Speaker 2: footy player that you just knew if the game was
Speaker 2: on the line, you needed something, but would provide it.
Speaker 3: I loved him at paramatter.
Speaker 4: He's one of the most skillful, frequcy talented players I've
Speaker 4: ever seen.
Speaker 1: And premierships, Kangaroo Falls, yeah, everything, But.
Speaker 4: You know, everyone's got an opinion. You can't chuck them
Speaker 4: all in Mobsie, I.
Speaker 3: Just asked for one, but apparently Mick got him at
Speaker 3: the back of the.
Speaker 4: Kit has got to stay so exclusive, I am.
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with you more there, Buzz.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm really hanging out to see who gets it.
Speaker 2: You know, in thirty years, I've got two players.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but mate, you've just said, how you know.
Speaker 2: I don't have Lockier and Thurston. I've got Smith and Johnson, a.
Speaker 4: Lot of people, with a lot of people, and Joey
Speaker 4: even said thought he was better play than shore.
Speaker 2: We It's an opinion, of course it is, and that's
Speaker 2: why you get fifteen in the room, so no one
Speaker 2: can control the room. Course, of course, I'm just saying
Speaker 2: from my point of view, they're the only two that
Speaker 2: I have. My mind might change.
Speaker 4: In Okay, I have to pull you up here, Billy Slater. Yes,
Speaker 4: I will take Ray Warren's view over anyone else. He
Speaker 4: is on the record rabbits as saying Billy Slater was
Speaker 4: a better player than Graham Changa Langlan's. Now for Raps
Speaker 4: to say that that is huge because I remember Chang
Speaker 4: at the end, but I didn't see Hm at his
Speaker 4: peak like Raps would it. Just see what I mean,
Speaker 4: because I was like my opinion.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, my opinion might change in
Speaker 2: ten or fifteen years once I watched more forty.
Speaker 4: I'd say this with the greatest respect, And I'm glad
Speaker 4: you're talking about it. You're not in a position really
Speaker 4: to compare to Langland of course, like.
Speaker 2: Of course not, no, no, And I'm talking like That's
Speaker 2: why my titel vision has been strictly my language. The
Speaker 2: blokes that I've I've seen plenty of and in ten
Speaker 2: or fifteen years my opinion might change a bit on
Speaker 2: Slater first and having watched a lot more footy and
Speaker 2: compare them to a lot more players. Yeah sure, but
Speaker 2: I'm only saying from and they're great players. And if
Speaker 2: Billy Slater got inducted as an immortal, I want to
Speaker 2: be sitting here blowing up even third. I wouldn't, but
Speaker 2: I just wanted to be the most exclusive list.
Speaker 4: The panel was a good mixture of oldies and you
Speaker 4: Ba Bdell was on it, Bomba's you know, because queenslant
Speaker 4: had to be properly recognized. But Bama was on it.
Speaker 4: And then old Stevie Rickets, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So they've got Queens cupboard and you need people like
Speaker 4: them to weigh up our Fie against you know what
Speaker 4: we're talking.
Speaker 3: About Stirlo or you know, yeah, or Ricky or you know.
Speaker 4: Ricky kept Alfie out the Australian side many times.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a good debate that we'll be having on Thursdays. Yeah,
Speaker 2: once there's an induction, So that'll be cool to get
Speaker 2: an invite to the I'll be there black tie. There's
Speaker 2: a black eye, I think.
Speaker 4: So you got a suit suit.
Speaker 3: Supplied by Fox Lea.
Speaker 4: You've actually paid pursuit. There is a suit in your
Speaker 4: war Dragon paid for.
Speaker 2: There's more suits in my wardrobe that I've paid for
Speaker 2: than I've been given.
Speaker 4: I'm going to promote my podcast on Socials this soufternoon
Speaker 4: with the revelation that you have actually paid for one
Speaker 4: of your suits.
Speaker 2: Maybe you can get your I paid for the lot
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand folds. Maybe we can get a sponsor
Speaker 2: for maybe we can get someone addresses for Wednesday night?
Speaker 4: Ninety seven point six?
Speaker 2: Do you reckon? Can you throw it out? See if
Speaker 2: someone wants to dress us on Wednesday for Wednesday?
Speaker 4: To do that, I need a bit of makeup. You
Speaker 4: see the fan last night, I haven't seen that. I've
Speaker 4: turned out. I take blood Benners and the cheeks was
Speaker 4: brighter read anyway, and the dog had scratched my Oh
Speaker 4: maybe I looked.
Speaker 2: One hundred blaving Milo for how you look?
Speaker 4: I look one hundred and five on that last night.
Speaker 2: I sat there that being like good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one Blake said I shouldn't drinking so much port,
Speaker 4: you know, and all that ship seen. No, I got
Speaker 4: some really nice feedback.
Speaker 2: I'll have to watch over the weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Before I move on, I just want to point your
Speaker 1: attention to something, because this.
Speaker 4: Is dangerous when you you had lib a lot.
Speaker 1: This this is really good because on the back of
Speaker 1: Steve and If being a Hall of Famer, Eddie Franklin
Speaker 1: of our colleagues at News Local, has done a piece
Speaker 1: on a mirror Reneuf. She's the niece of the Champion
Speaker 1: of Bronco and she's sixteen and she suffers she's just
Speaker 1: one of five children in Australia suffers for something called
Speaker 1: limbic encephalitis. She is a champion, champion sportswoman in her
Speaker 1: own right rugby seven's rugby league touch footage and she
Speaker 1: is electric. But this stuff that she suffers, she has
Speaker 1: multiple siezes a day. She can have siezures. If she's
Speaker 1: got a tournament on a gala day, she might have
Speaker 1: a seizure where she misses the game and then comes
Speaker 1: back and scores two tries and kids of winning penalty goal.
Speaker 1: There's a wonderful story on our websites at the mom
Speaker 1: if you want to go and have a little bit.
Speaker 1: She also as part of it, she's struggling to turn
Speaker 1: short term memories into long term memories, to convert them.
Speaker 1: So it's almost like that fifty First Dates movie a
Speaker 1: little bit but Drew Barrymore where it's real light. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they've spoken with the parents and talked about their you know,
Speaker 1: this disease looks like it will be will shorten her
Speaker 1: lifespan and they don't know how to quite get across it.
Speaker 1: But just go and have a read of it because
Speaker 1: it's a really lovely piece of I'll send you the
Speaker 1: link or I'll post it around.
Speaker 2: Your niece.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously got the blood of champions running through
Speaker 1: a veins and just wish her all the best because
Speaker 1: absolute got a great yarn. But look, we're going to
Speaker 1: move on to something that you guys fought over before.
Speaker 3: Was the vow Holmes to the Dragons.
Speaker 1: I want to hope Mick the figures that you were
Speaker 1: quoting of what voal Holmes is due to be on
Speaker 1: next season on his back ended deal.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, at one point one point five he's
Speaker 2: due to earn next year. Was due to earn it
Speaker 2: the Cowboys next year. Obviously in the last year of
Speaker 2: that six year mega contract that he signed when he
Speaker 2: returned from the NFL to play fullback. Was the it's
Speaker 2: a lot of money. It made him one of the
Speaker 2: highest paid. It makes him one of the highest pay
Speaker 2: players in the competition.
Speaker 4: Wonder did that? Do we beg Paramatta for doing a
Speaker 4: stupid deal? It was probably Pari Peter Para or something
Speaker 4: that's stupid.
Speaker 2: Well, they had two mega deals there, Jason Tomalolo and
Speaker 2: Valentine Homes and the table.
Speaker 4: They'd be contributing i'd presume to for next.
Speaker 2: Year, a couple hundred thousand next year and then he'll
Speaker 2: be on around eight eight to fifty at the Dragons. Well,
Speaker 2: the Dragons were paying eight eight fifty for the next
Speaker 2: couple of years for Valentine Holmes, obviously a lot of money.
Speaker 2: He hasn't been great this year our homes, but for
Speaker 2: what the Dragons needed, he was the perfect player on
Speaker 2: the market. They needed a guy that can play anywhere
Speaker 2: in the outside back, center, wing, full back and a
Speaker 2: goalkicker with Zach Lomax leaving the club. So he ticks
Speaker 2: all those boxers Premiership winner, experienced, still playing origin hasn't
Speaker 2: had a great year, right, I think we can all
Speaker 2: con see he hasn't been at his best this year,
Speaker 2: but I think for the Dragons are really important by yeah, great.
Speaker 4: Buye like for like replacement with and Hunt not his best,
Speaker 4: it's just good than Sorry sorry sorry Why am I.
Speaker 1: Was going to ask you about putting him into the
Speaker 1: heart into that spine with Ben Hunt? And do you
Speaker 1: see him playing at fullback or do you think he's
Speaker 1: going to be an outside back?
Speaker 4: Look, I still think they're invested in Sloane. I think
Speaker 4: he's better than a winger. Maybe in the center, but
Speaker 4: what Lomax has done this year as a winger shows
Speaker 4: how valuable a winger is, so you can pay big
Speaker 4: money now I reckon and play him on the wing.
Speaker 4: But look, he's definitely a fullback option because Sloane's still
Speaker 4: got work to do.
Speaker 2: He's a better fullback option than Lomax is in terms
Speaker 2: of I think he just plays the position better. A
Speaker 2: Lomax fam has been irresistible this year, no doubt. In
Speaker 2: an ideal world for the Dragon, Sloan is their fullback
Speaker 2: because it means he cemented that spot and you know
Speaker 2: that we all see the upside in him. So I
Speaker 2: think for next year if the Dragon, you know, in
Speaker 2: a perfect world, vows at center or wing and Sloan's
Speaker 2: the number one.
Speaker 1: If you're a Dragons fan, Buzzy, you see they've picked
Speaker 1: up Valheims and Damien Cook for next year, you're happy
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they desfinitely need a middle. I think we're going
Speaker 4: to get to that the needs of all the clubs.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think it's nice. It's a good strong
Speaker 4: roster off the back of the most improved team in
Speaker 4: the comp. I think they're more improved than Canterbury in
Speaker 4: that they ran.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think there as improved as Canterbury,
Speaker 2: but they are. They are vastly improved.
Speaker 4: To concede that Cavin Surrounde should be coached to.
Speaker 2: The year now, yeah, I agree. Yeah, he's done an
Speaker 2: outstanding job. And you look at that Dragon's Ross. Don't
Speaker 2: forget Lomax is coming out of that squad and for
Speaker 2: next year. But I was a little bit critical of
Speaker 2: the Cook sign, but he's been really good the past
Speaker 2: four or five weeks, Damian Cook, and he adds some
Speaker 2: much needed experience because you look at that club. You know,
Speaker 2: the last couple of years when Ben Hunt's been missing,
Speaker 2: they've had Black Lorry captain to make the team at
Speaker 2: the moment, Jack de Bellen's been captain. And now you've
Speaker 2: got Vour Homes and Damian Cook to representative senior players
Speaker 2: and then the lookout to add one more in established
Speaker 2: middle and then I think they will be it for
Speaker 2: the short.
Speaker 3: Term and so established middle.
Speaker 1: The name that keeps getting bendied around in some circles
Speaker 1: is Reagan Kemball Gillard.
Speaker 2: I think if they had to rank their wish list,
Speaker 2: he'd be number one of all the props that are
Speaker 2: available at the moment. I think I think it's just
Speaker 2: the Moneys too. They're too far apart on the money
Speaker 2: bus no, but not as much as Saffi. And the
Speaker 2: issue is with safii's the amount the Newcastle would be
Speaker 2: willing to potentially tip in. Chemical Gilla's got twelve months
Speaker 2: left on his deal. The stumbling block will be there
Speaker 2: is he's sort of wanted a three year deal. I
Speaker 2: don't think the drag is going to come at that.
Speaker 2: I think, you know, and idea what they take him
Speaker 2: for two? And I think he'd be really good signing
Speaker 2: for two years for the Dragons.
Speaker 3: It's not a it's not in bad form kembrill Gill
Speaker 3: has been.
Speaker 2: I think he'd be great for two. I wouldn't go
Speaker 2: three years, but for two years.
Speaker 4: For Challenger there I recommended. Paris problems this year has
Speaker 4: been lack of middle field dominance, energy momentum. And you
Speaker 4: know it's ok to blame the Moses injury and you
Speaker 4: know that I don't think you've played off the front foot.
Speaker 4: And I'm not as rap in his form as much
Speaker 4: as others are. He was nowhere near origin selection.
Speaker 2: It hasn't been known as good as he has the
Speaker 2: last couple of years, but no one in Paramatunta really
Speaker 2: has except for Mitch.
Speaker 4: You know, I think that's where it all starts going,
Speaker 4: no doubt.
Speaker 2: And that's that was Paramount's strength, was their power game,
Speaker 2: and they didn't have much else after that, Right, That's
Speaker 2: what that That's what Brad Arthur built that squad around that,
Speaker 2: that real power even.
Speaker 4: Clearly LEUI great players, right where are they without Fisher,
Speaker 4: Harris and Moses Leeta?
Speaker 1: And I think you'll see that with Ryles is going
Speaker 1: to try and get a bit more mobility into that
Speaker 1: middle paramatter in the way they play, because you know,
Speaker 1: defensively they leak tries out one and I just don't
Speaker 1: know off the defense of just well enough to.
Speaker 2: Very hard to have two highly paid props, which is
Speaker 2: what paramatter situation is at the moment. But I think
Speaker 2: if I think it'd be a good tigning for the
Speaker 2: Dragons there for two years, I think he'd fit in
Speaker 2: well in that forward pack another experienced players, so similar
Speaker 2: to what.
Speaker 4: He played for Australia.
Speaker 2: So I think if they can add him and then
Speaker 2: I think they will complete the Dragons rosso like their
Speaker 2: next target is definitely an established middle and then they'll
Speaker 2: maybe some tinkering towards the bottom end of the roster
Speaker 2: rather than some top end signings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, I guess we'll be talking extra
Speaker 1: sadam well this weekend's games. Obviously, we've got a short
Speaker 1: turnaround for Pan at the Storm for the battle for
Speaker 1: the minor Premiership.
Speaker 3: Where do you see it going?
Speaker 2: I think I can't wait for the game. Both sides
Speaker 2: haven't been at their best over the last couple of
Speaker 2: weeks Penrith, Edwards, Fisher, Harris bark h Jins. They lose
Speaker 2: their two second rollers though the Storm spine hasn't been great.
Speaker 2: I think Jerome Hughes has sort of carried that those
Speaker 2: Munster hasn't found his top gy yet, Harry Grant had
Speaker 2: an indifferent season and Pappenhausen has shown glimpses of getting
Speaker 2: back to his best form. But I think it's going
Speaker 2: to Obviously it's going to be a cracking game. It'd
Speaker 2: be awesome. It's going to weet the appetite for what
Speaker 2: we're going to see in the finals run. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm excited for the game. But I think the Panthers
Speaker 2: at home.
Speaker 4: I'm much more impressed with Storm I think than you are.
Speaker 4: They're leading the comp for a reason. And you talk
Speaker 4: about the Big four of the Pappenhouse and the Grants
Speaker 4: and Hughes Munster, I think they have some of the
Speaker 4: most underrated footballers in this competition. I love Jack Howse
Speaker 4: in the centers.
Speaker 2: He's gone a long way, hasn't he?
Speaker 4: Love Tyrone was sharp, Nick Meanie what a footballer? Will Warbrick,
Speaker 4: Grant Anderson? What made their dead set and their edge forwards?
Speaker 4: Bloor and Contowa. I'm not but what I'm saying that
Speaker 4: even though those guys and you're right, months has been
Speaker 4: slow coming back, there are an all around great football side.
Speaker 4: It's not just those senior players, No doubt, I reckon
Speaker 4: they'll beat Penrith.
Speaker 2: But it's crazy to think we're talking about team one
Speaker 2: and two and we're finding holes in their performance and
Speaker 2: they're click hut and the best teams in the competition.
Speaker 4: I'm not finding holes, and what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying is that they're improving.
Speaker 4: Ivan Clear has been able to manage another year of origin.
Speaker 4: They have them made. It's incredible coaching.
Speaker 2: It's scary for the rest of the competition when we're
Speaker 2: saying that these two are the click cut best sides
Speaker 2: and there's still more in them.
Speaker 4: I saw a bald Old piece the other day and
Speaker 4: he compared him to the Dragons and the great South
Speaker 4: Sides that they've done that, and then you look at
Speaker 4: the penwith side if they hadn't been a cap and
Speaker 4: they could do on and do it mate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were talking about Jack House before, and that's
Speaker 1: funny because two years ago we're talking about well not
Speaker 1: even that, about that Melbourne had signed him to a
Speaker 1: five year deal and which was going to be going
Speaker 1: some decent money and he was stuck at the Sunshine
Speaker 1: Coast Falcons.
Speaker 4: He was sluggish, mate, Yeah, waiting for him to come along.
Speaker 2: But hasn't he The penny hadn't dropped? Yeah, Now you
Speaker 2: a fan, he's been great.
Speaker 3: Fair.
Speaker 2: I think he's so tough to me. He took some
Speaker 2: time to learn the game, I think is probably the
Speaker 2: best way to describe it. The have been a top
Speaker 2: flight player and play origins and you know they very
Speaker 2: rarely get it wrong. But they emarked him and look
Speaker 2: what's happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we had questions, didn't we And then no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even on the back of last week when Penrith
Speaker 1: beat were well below par against Paramatta, but Paramata alway
Speaker 1: stepped up against in Paramount with injury ravage. But you
Speaker 1: go back to the week before when Nathan clearly put
Speaker 1: on that master class, you go, Okay, there's there's a
Speaker 1: lot of improvement still to come. But how far out
Speaker 1: from the finals you want to be playing at one
Speaker 1: hundred percent buzz?
Speaker 3: What do you want to be?
Speaker 4: Well? You want to be warming up now? I would think, yeah,
Speaker 4: preaking this time of the year.
Speaker 2: I won't worry about either the side that loses today.
Speaker 2: Put it that way, like, even if they know they
Speaker 2: won't happen, but if once I gets pumped, I still
Speaker 2: wouldn't care because they're still not.
Speaker 4: A psychological advantage for later on.
Speaker 2: Don't Paramount definitely won't carry anything because they just don't
Speaker 2: seem to carry anything. And Melbourne have had enough players
Speaker 2: there win big games that don't think it matters to them.
Speaker 1: You know, what are your other big games for the weekend?
Speaker 1: Brewster's els means nothing really.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of games that have top eight run
Speaker 2: for Cakes like Dogs, Dolphins, Yeah, Dolphins, Ramifications, Bunderberg psalter
Speaker 2: Over there, Yeah, a big runner for Saturday three o'clock.
Speaker 4: Good Saturday three game. You're going up, met I thought
Speaker 4: you work Saturdays.
Speaker 2: I do on the cameratown.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're Cambletown right for.
Speaker 2: The blockbuster between the Tigers and the Rabbit at.
Speaker 4: So I'll have to be on duty again. What time's
Speaker 4: your game?
Speaker 2: Seven thirty? I'll cover here, thank you.
Speaker 4: You'll come near the game on that how i'll cover
Speaker 4: breaking news? Well, you've got headsets, I believe it is
Speaker 4: to what's happening in the game. I'm sure like I
Speaker 4: have with.
Speaker 2: Play and Red Ricky while.
Speaker 4: In Paris, I'm sure I've got to carry the Lottis.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've done nothing but the but no, And then
Speaker 2: you look at the Sunday games Dragons Titans with the
Speaker 2: Dragon like it's a mass win game for the Dragons.
Speaker 2: They go to the Sharks next week, so they can't
Speaker 2: afford like they'll be play this. I don't see him
Speaker 2: beating the Sharks. Likely three losses in a row head
Speaker 2: and into the back end of the season. So they
Speaker 2: just got final way. It doesn't matter if it's the
Speaker 2: ugliest win of the season. They just got to find
Speaker 2: a way to get that job done.
Speaker 1: And he had the bounce back factor with the Titans
Speaker 1: too after last week.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, no, I'm going to Shark Park and you
Speaker 4: know where you this week? Yeah yeah, when you remember, right,
Speaker 4: the Sharks. When you remember, you go and watch your
Speaker 4: team play. But you know what I'm hanging out for
Speaker 4: this week. I want to see Fletcher Sharp live. I
Speaker 4: want to see his speed and he reminds me so
Speaker 4: much of Ponger's debut as a winger up in the Cowboys,
Speaker 4: and they played him. You know, he's not Callum Ponger,
Speaker 4: but he's so exciting and I like go to gains
Speaker 4: to what's the opposition as much as your own team,
Speaker 4: you know, sounds really exciting.
Speaker 2: The alf was good.
Speaker 4: I have my pon christ You've got a massive seafood
Speaker 4: lunch early in the day. Then I waddled back to
Speaker 4: work and finished the column. Then I got up there
Speaker 4: and I was in the party, pies and all sorts.
Speaker 2: Of that's not very rolls yea underwhelming. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Caviar Ms runs the cooking up there, catering, whatever you
Speaker 4: want to call it. He knows how to make a pile.
Speaker 4: They're not Big Ben. There's still a big Ben pie mate.
Speaker 2: They're up there with Garlos once on Sunday.
Speaker 4: Oh mate, I'm not into commercial side. I'm here her informer.
Speaker 4: I don't care whose sponsors.
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 4: We had to control that, we don't. We have some
Speaker 4: important we do we do.
Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to you guys because.
Speaker 1: No, I need to talk to you about the bottom
Speaker 1: of the ladder, because we need to give some content
Speaker 1: for the people who, like myself, support one of the
Speaker 1: struggling clubs. So I want to see which of these
Speaker 1: bottom four teams can bounce back quicker, because you saw
Speaker 1: what the Bulldogs have been able to do, although they've
Speaker 1: been in the doldhens for a while. The second year
Speaker 1: with Siraldo, now they've gone really well. Dragons, Yeah, the Dragons.
Speaker 1: So the bottom four teams at the moment Tigers, Eels, Rabbitos,
Speaker 1: Warriors in universe order.
Speaker 2: The Warriors I.
Speaker 1: Checked at the start of the week. They've lost seven
Speaker 1: games this year by six points or fewer. You're in
Speaker 1: a couple of those and you're sort of into but
Speaker 1: are we masking issues there? So where do you where
Speaker 1: do you see? Let's start with the Tigers. They've got
Speaker 1: Jerome Lewis, Sania Taruva, Jurel Skelton coming in next season,
Speaker 1: losing Isaiah Papalti obviously in junior Tupo. But what do
Speaker 1: you make of their rostas and their chances so far?
Speaker 3: Sorry, obviously, I.
Speaker 2: Think the the positive side for the Tigers is that
Speaker 2: they've got their one, six, seven nine locked in and
Speaker 2: not when you're a struggling club, that's usually a concern.
Speaker 2: So I think that's the upside when you look at
Speaker 2: the Tiger's bullers locked in, Galvin hopefully you know, is
Speaker 2: contracted for next year, Little Eye's long term chorus out,
Speaker 2: and then you've got the Silver as well waiting in
Speaker 2: the wings, who looks like a likely player. So the
Speaker 2: benefit for the Tigers is that most clubs that are
Speaker 2: struggling in the bottom four are trying to find that.
Speaker 2: So that's the that's the tick, right. I think fin
Speaker 2: who has been Samuel has been really good. I've really
Speaker 2: enjoyed him this year. Fino Apollo has been you know,
Speaker 2: he's an ever. Look, he could potentially go to November one.
Speaker 2: They've got to try and get him locked in because
Speaker 2: he's a long term part of that club. But then
Speaker 2: you know, the roster sort of falls away after.
Speaker 4: That seriously, And I understand everything you've said about that spine.
Speaker 4: It's a great spine. Just spoke about it. You know,
Speaker 4: Rugby league clubs in this era need big, strong, fast,
Speaker 4: aerobic front rowers, right. They do not have one to
Speaker 4: save themselves, right, and it's going to come back to
Speaker 4: their momentum. And Stefano was a huge, huge loss. Now
Speaker 4: rich I was sitting there with a two million dollar
Speaker 4: checkbook buying freaking wingers. No, No, I like his patients.
Speaker 4: I spoke to him Ellion the weekend. He's not going
Speaker 4: to make mistake of previous West Tiger buying and just
Speaker 4: rush out and jam someone in there and overpay them.
Speaker 2: But they need.
Speaker 4: Campbell Gillard, Yeah, more than Saint George need Campbell Gillard.
Speaker 4: They have their front row is so limited.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I can't. I can't agree with you, but
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of holes in that roster.
Speaker 2: But the upside is that they've got the players in
Speaker 2: the hardest position to fill in the most important position.
Speaker 2: They've got them locked in.
Speaker 4: You know, Canterbury had this Sam Hughes fella, Yeah, who
Speaker 4: I think has been nearly the discovery of the year
Speaker 4: what he's done they need.
Speaker 3: To, but is there someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've done well with like King and Hughes and
Speaker 2: Curran and stuff like that. The Dogs. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. The Tigers need to sign they need me,
Speaker 2: I agree, and they don't forget that John Bateman situation
Speaker 2: is still unresolved.
Speaker 4: Again is not going and SAMUELA Feiner they're not going
Speaker 4: to give you. They're good a need just.
Speaker 2: But of course, but I'm saying like that's just another
Speaker 2: layer to the how they let PAPOALII go I don't understand.
Speaker 2: I know he hasn't been great, but you look at
Speaker 2: the side that he signed for. He's just proves that.
Speaker 4: There's everyone who leaves kicks goals.
Speaker 2: I just think that one's going to be one of
Speaker 2: they regret because he was not on stupid money. Pupaly,
Speaker 2: He's an elite back rower who just has struggled. But
Speaker 2: then if he's getting back in a side with that
Speaker 2: spine and he's feeding off one of those guys a
Speaker 2: bit more, I think it would have been a great combination.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about the Eels obviously gaining exact Lomax, which
Speaker 1: is a nice pickup, but Ethan sand has blazed to
Speaker 1: lunging out the matter, Arth are likely to join them
Speaker 1: where the seat a lot of work for Ryles too,
Speaker 1: There's a lot because there's still a lot of uncertain
Speaker 1: of there Mobbs.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. If you look at that roster and
Speaker 2: you know, unable to get rid like Sell, Ryan Madison
Speaker 2: looks unlikely, Cibo's still on the chopping block, Sean Lane
Speaker 2: now it's Reagan Cambell Gillard, right, So I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot to happen. And there's obviously been some innuendo
Speaker 2: that the pub has shut down regarded Mitchell Moses, so
Speaker 2: there's a lot to change in that ross. I do
Speaker 2: think it needs a generational shift, and I think that's
Speaker 2: what Jason Ryles is trying to do. But if you can't,
Speaker 2: if there's no buyers, well then you're stuck with them,
Speaker 2: and then you're you know, you're sort of in a
Speaker 2: position where the player knows is not exactly wanted, but
Speaker 2: he doesn't have a better option, so he stays there.
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about the Eels roster for next season.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I got a lot of faith in Ryles,
Speaker 4: who's the young fellow who made the depressive, impressive debut
Speaker 4: than Charlie Geimer. Charlie Geimer is a very very good player.
Speaker 4: Mick and look might be ready for twenty six and
Speaker 4: RL games next year. But having people like Kim coming
Speaker 4: back to yeah, yeah, yeah, you had those two with
Speaker 4: this pack and Hopgood's a very very good point. They'll
Speaker 4: miss t Laga. Yeah, you're right, But I don't know
Speaker 4: where they go with recruitment, Bobsy. I don't know how
Speaker 4: much money do they have who is available?
Speaker 2: Well, they've got nar until they can sell.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I got a little bit because of the players offer
Speaker 2: that they had out for him, but they need to
Speaker 2: move before they can buy. Otherwise, Jason right is going
Speaker 2: to have to get the best out of the players
Speaker 2: that are there. There's still some talent there. You know.
Speaker 2: Roy Madison's played Origin not that long ago. Short Lane
Speaker 2: was one of the most dynamic back rollers in the game.
Speaker 3: Not that long ago, you know, the player of the two.
Speaker 2: So there are some there's talent in that ros so
Speaker 2: that he just needs to try and get the best
Speaker 2: out of if he's going to be unable to sell them.
Speaker 3: I think you're twelve eighteen months away with Para.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jim Sarentino sent me an interesting text recently talking
Speaker 4: about you know, not making excuses, but Moses missed fifteen games,
Speaker 4: Simmons and fourteen games, hop good, thirteen games, see eleven games,
Speaker 4: parloas nine games to a large seven games. They have
Speaker 4: been knocked about, they have.
Speaker 2: But no one's been knocked about as much as the
Speaker 2: next lay we're going to talk about.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I'm sorry for taking sorry to take
Speaker 4: my listeners into private text messages.
Speaker 3: And that was good content, very good.
Speaker 2: One was a better segue, though, you're gibbering.
Speaker 1: What about the South? So they're they're bringing Jamie Humphis
Speaker 1: next year from Manly. They lose Tom Burges, just lose
Speaker 1: Damien Cook you and akn you and Acres comes in.
Speaker 3: How do you see that going?
Speaker 2: And Locky Ilias is an unknown Lewis Dodd, there's so
Speaker 2: much pressure on theis DoD next year.
Speaker 4: What money is your mixed seven?
Speaker 2: I think so seven seven fifty yeah, wow, money, big,
Speaker 2: big money.
Speaker 4: You'll be all over at the trials, won't you? Never
Speaker 4: don't give him time. I'm going to give you some advice.
Speaker 4: A journal three days of are going to give you
Speaker 4: some advice. Don't jump early.
Speaker 2: So we don't need a pre season interview with him.
Speaker 4: Or no, not an interview about his form. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to know. You don't keep sort of settling
Speaker 4: in period, Adam. He suggests there's an experienced director.
Speaker 2: Of this that recruits herbs.
Speaker 4: Well, i'ming them up again today because there's invoice voices.
Speaker 1: And obviously we didn't mention the other big recruit, Wayne Bennett.
Speaker 2: Wayne Bennett.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there is the best recruit ever, isn't it.
Speaker 2: You know they're an enigma sou City, but Foundations they're
Speaker 2: of a good site.
Speaker 4: Graham hasn't played all years. You sound like a breaken record.
Speaker 4: But Tom Burgess is going and where they're mids, the
Speaker 4: mids worried.
Speaker 2: Maybe Moale, like Count Kalmon Tongue has done a really
Speaker 2: good job in the middle, has that become his.
Speaker 4: They're not off the back, off the back fence sort.
Speaker 2: You know. Then you have Cammurray playing at the team
Speaker 2: when Jo comes back. I played busted since.
Speaker 4: Round one and they're not hard nosed, grumpy, angry middles
Speaker 4: representative players. Look look at their neighbors. Look at the
Speaker 4: roosters with Lindsey Colin's and Victor Bradley and Spencer Leno.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, it's a good point. It's a good point.
Speaker 4: I think that there's not an enforced So there's what
Speaker 4: I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: Think of those sides, they're better placed to push for
Speaker 2: the top eight next year. You're the ones that we're
Speaker 2: talking about.
Speaker 4: And Wayne seems to manage front row is better than anyone,
Speaker 4: doesn't he you know, he can seems to be able
Speaker 4: to get more out of them than you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's and it's still a decent roster
Speaker 2: next year, Louis Dodd, how does he work out? Like
Speaker 2: that's a huge question because if he works out, then
Speaker 2: Wine and goes back to the centers and get White
Speaker 2: and Campbell Graham on either side, that becomes a dull
Speaker 2: you know, with will.
Speaker 4: Be interesting come back with Wine there.
Speaker 2: So there's there's still a pretty high color of the side.
Speaker 4: Where are you tipping him?
Speaker 2: Tip him in the eight?
Speaker 4: Is it Wayne's record because of the roster?
Speaker 2: I think combination of both. Yeah, you've got him in
Speaker 2: the puzz We're doing our early.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to do it. When I speak and
Speaker 4: deliver content, I need to be sure it's a very
Speaker 4: old taken.
Speaker 2: No, I never rush.
Speaker 4: I love that the judiciary this week.
Speaker 1: What about your The Warriors obviously had a slump, and
Speaker 1: I mentioned before the record of close losses, but aging
Speaker 1: squad for Nola blake out Jazz Tavanga requirements.
Speaker 2: Obviously, Johnson out the door.
Speaker 1: There's Fisher Harris in young Jet Cleary comes in that system,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if he'll be first grade ready yet.
Speaker 3: It's a big step up from Flegga. Not for him.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's the plan.
Speaker 3: No, No, have him been first grade next year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, concerns around the Warriors. The Roger two of us
Speaker 2: is shack experiments center. I know Chance is a really
Speaker 2: good player, but I'd be trying to flip that and
Speaker 2: have Arts at center and see if that works with
Speaker 2: Roger back at fullback. Luke Metcalf's been a huge blow
Speaker 2: for him because he was really good at the start
Speaker 2: of the year and he's he's got what Buzz has
Speaker 2: been banging on about all show speed. You know, he's
Speaker 2: been really good for him. So he'll take a leading
Speaker 2: role next year with Sean Johnson gone.
Speaker 4: He can play to not just speed, he can play.
Speaker 2: The four packs still elite with Fanilla Blake gone, Fisher
Speaker 2: Harris comes in, you know, and I think you know
Speaker 2: to Harris looks a little bit banged up, obviously injured at.
Speaker 4: The midto very banged un so I concerned.
Speaker 2: About him next year. Didn'l Walker has done an awesome
Speaker 2: job playing as fourteen or coming on. It's starting a
Speaker 2: lock at the moment. So again the nucleus is there
Speaker 2: more so than Parramatta and the Tigers.
Speaker 4: But but apart from Fisher Harris, which is a huge signing,
Speaker 4: but it's really just to cancel out with Vanua Blake.
Speaker 4: I don't see a lot of improvement outside of a
Speaker 4: hit meck.
Speaker 2: Have no, not externally. The improvement has to come internally.
Speaker 2: Now they will have some money with the Sean Johnson decision.
Speaker 2: What they do if they go to the market and
Speaker 2: what they look for, you know that that will be interesting.
Speaker 2: But I think the forward pack is still pretty elite
Speaker 2: for the it's a good forward pack.
Speaker 4: You're either elite or you're not. You don't say pretty elite, elite,
Speaker 4: close to elite, that's what you're looking for.
Speaker 1: Pretty elite. We're casual cup teams running going really well.
Speaker 1: Wade Egan with a season under his free seasons.
Speaker 2: Like he's about to get injured every game.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, isn't it.
Speaker 2: He's a good player, don't get me wrong, and one
Speaker 2: of the most improved and competition, but it just just
Speaker 2: looks like he's.
Speaker 1: The best product to come out of Lithgo Wade Egan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: right beyond me.
Speaker 4: I had to mention, didn't you?
Speaker 3: All right verdicts out of that?
Speaker 1: So who's who's best places sous buzz.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd probably have to agree with you.
Speaker 2: We've got Next Warriors.
Speaker 4: Who else we got West West or Warriors, Power Warriors,
Speaker 4: West Tigers.
Speaker 2: I just think the Tiger, the Tigers and Eels have
Speaker 2: the most potential if we're talking about this in a
Speaker 2: month's time, to be in completely different situations, the Eels
Speaker 2: in terms of selling and what they can buy, and
Speaker 2: the and the Tigers in adding to that rostar. So
Speaker 2: I think as it is, the.
Speaker 4: Problem with adding to the roster is the very reason
Speaker 4: players leave, because you get a choice of playing for
Speaker 4: Bellame or Benji. You had a choice of playing for
Speaker 4: Robber or Benji. You get a choice to playing.
Speaker 2: For of course, and of course I doubt Jerome went
Speaker 2: to the Tigers for Benji. Yeah, you know there is
Speaker 2: some sway there.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's got some sway too with a couple of
Speaker 4: young Penrith players and drag over with him. Maybe.
Speaker 2: So I'd have Eels and Tigers, but it's there up
Speaker 2: in the air and they can change. I just I
Speaker 2: like the Tigers for the fact, as I said, they're
Speaker 2: spines settled and usually it's musical chairs in the struggling sides.
Speaker 3: We better move on to your listener questions. A few.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen these all of them. Let me just
Speaker 4: send through.
Speaker 2: Oh no, a sorry, all right, these are the ones
Speaker 2: from Twitter? What are from JP? What are the eventual
Speaker 2: game times going to be when the Bears and be
Speaker 2: Png come in? Saturday is Sunday?
Speaker 1: What's Saturday nine thirty Sunday six pm? What do you
Speaker 1: think of Sunday six pm? Maybe a three o'clock kickoff
Speaker 1: Saturday earn in Perth for five into Sydney on a Saturday.
Speaker 4: Maybe a six o'clock game. No, it couldn't have a
Speaker 4: six because the other way around, the New Zealand side
Speaker 4: when they eventually come in, will be a six o'clock.
Speaker 2: Twenty years So yeah, when we go because we only
Speaker 2: have one more game despite two teams yeah eventually being added,
Speaker 2: and I think it will be Sunday night is the
Speaker 2: most like and then when we go to twenty, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'd love Monday night footy back, but Buzz
Speaker 2: doesn't want it because it'd be three to sixty. But
Speaker 2: it'd be twenty thirty by then, So we used to be.
Speaker 4: Doing three, right, I'll moved to Wednesdays.
Speaker 2: Will were used to be doing three sixty?
Speaker 4: I won't have your rotating system.
Speaker 2: Will you used to be doing three sixty and twenty thirty?
Speaker 4: No absolute guarantee, but don't worry about it.
Speaker 2: Then, James wants to know, in the absence of a draft,
Speaker 2: teams low on the ladder be given a larger salary cap.
Speaker 2: This week could be done on a five year average
Speaker 2: and a sliding amount where the team finishes last has
Speaker 2: a ten percent cap larger than the team who finishes
Speaker 2: first would tanking. Yes, look the reason the AFL.
Speaker 4: The reason the AFL had two strong Sydney clubs who
Speaker 4: could one day play in a Grand Final, GWS and Swans,
Speaker 4: is the the fact they were not given trades necessarily,
Speaker 4: but given.
Speaker 3: Extra and they still get that taken away and then
Speaker 3: I think they're getting something.
Speaker 4: So look, I think we've got to stop being so selfish,
Speaker 4: and we do need the cut. The highlight of this
Speaker 4: season has been the comeback of the Bulldogs. No question.
Speaker 4: We need the West Tigers to do it next year.
Speaker 4: We do and if they need help to do it,
Speaker 4: you know what.
Speaker 2: So I don't like it. I think you get if
Speaker 2: you manage your cap properly and you recruit properly and
Speaker 2: look after your junior is probably eventually you're going to
Speaker 2: be rewarded.
Speaker 4: But I've been explaining the whole thing. They can't sign
Speaker 4: players outside of Lui. They all want to go.
Speaker 2: It's not the rest of the competitions is probably my
Speaker 2: I think sometimes we appeal to long lowest common denominator
Speaker 2: in this game, and I don't like. I think I.
Speaker 4: Can't have the bad clubs dragging the rest of the
Speaker 4: game back. Michael, That's what I'm saying, Well, let's help them.
Speaker 2: I don't know is Luke wants to know. Is there
Speaker 2: a defensive problem in the NRL or Hack just getting
Speaker 2: too good.
Speaker 4: It's a six against it's a six against, the speed
Speaker 4: of the game, the fatigue, the.
Speaker 2: Sixty is a good point. It's a good point again.
Speaker 4: So everything's faster good no good analysis buzz Well, Canterbury
Speaker 4: defend good. Yeah, Penrith defend good.
Speaker 2: It was interesting apparently like Canbury missed a lot of tackles,
Speaker 2: but the way the defensive structure works, they just keep
Speaker 2: turning up for each other. It's interesting.
Speaker 4: Like forty thirty four score lines.
Speaker 2: I think you can have a great six twelve six
Speaker 2: game as equally as you're gonna have a thirty twenty game.
Speaker 2: Like it just depends on the quality of the game,
Speaker 2: and the score line doesn't necessarily mean it's a good
Speaker 2: or bad.
Speaker 1: It didn't really like a thirty six to thirty four
Speaker 1: game last week, but we'll move on.
Speaker 2: Yes from emails, thank you for your emails. This is
Speaker 2: from Josh. Do you think it's tall poppy syndrome or
Speaker 2: something else. Panthers post up the pas and the media
Speaker 2: well turns against it, but the Bulldogs performed. The Broncos
Speaker 2: try celebration. Have to win, and people say winners can
Speaker 2: do what they want. Likewise, dam Luis shows a bit
Speaker 2: of mischievous and he's quickly labeled to grub and everyone's
Speaker 2: hateless but read read Marney gives out much worse and
Speaker 2: gets labeled as a player of the board dog's need
Speaker 2: and good for the sport.
Speaker 1: I think Marny's copped a fair bit of grief this year,
Speaker 1: isn't He's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what he's saying, like, yeah, you know Penrith,
Speaker 2: But I think the Panthers boys this year turned it
Speaker 2: down a little bit. I think I.
Speaker 4: Love seeing excitement on steroids.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know issue, They're my favorite thing.
Speaker 4: Last week, did you see to be the pang Eye
Speaker 4: junior jump onto that pilon?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love.
Speaker 4: I love that. I let these buggers be characters.
Speaker 3: You be happy.
Speaker 4: If you can't, I'm not sure read Marny's behaviors character.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, it's not fun.
Speaker 4: But I love seeing these guys. Okay Cooker especially talk
Speaker 4: about otherwise.
Speaker 2: But if you can't, if you if you're a Pennyworth
Speaker 2: player and you're in your early twenties whatever, you've just
Speaker 2: won three comps, you're playing with your mates at your
Speaker 2: childhood club, you can't have swagger a little bit of
Speaker 2: swagger then please so yeah, we enjoy it. Oh my
Speaker 2: question about dry Field. A lot of rumors from the
Speaker 2: British media that he wants to return to the NRL.
Speaker 2: Any mail buzz and I.
Speaker 4: Can't say I've got Marlon that mate.
Speaker 2: I haven't either. And also is it true he's a
Speaker 2: he's a Dragons, Yeah yeah, he's half full back? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard his name mentioned. Good player and Jack
Speaker 2: in the club round there, Jack wellsby buzz.
Speaker 4: I haven't heard that Helen's Helen had a tough year.
Speaker 2: I've heard his name from a lot of clubs that
Speaker 2: they'd be interested in, nothing specific, but I haven't heard
Speaker 2: Field's name mentioned.
Speaker 4: Speaking of the UK Siper, I'm going to give a
Speaker 4: wrap through and as he coach over there, Willie Peters
Speaker 4: what he done with?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And who are normally a club that fights relegate? They're
Speaker 4: leading the comp?
Speaker 2: You bet was?
Speaker 4: Yes, I have thoughts much. I wouldn't go there for holiday.
Speaker 4: Mick correct shout out to our listeners in whole. Your
Speaker 4: quality of questions has dropped off a little bit too. Well,
Speaker 4: they're not my questions, Mike. Should Central Queensland be considered
Speaker 4: for an expansion? Post twenty thirty? Post twenty thirty some
Speaker 4: good NRL product Ben Hart and Munster Matt Scott Matt
Speaker 4: seeing Dave Taylor. I'd love a central Queensland side if
Speaker 4: they had infrastructure. That's the Cristadium, the infrastructure and the
Speaker 4: population to sustain a team. That's my concern. It work
Speaker 4: a lot better than P and G in my view,
Speaker 4: but that's just my view. I don't want to pooh
Speaker 4: on the P and G party, but I'm not so
Speaker 4: sure about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, PG be nineteen and then twenty will be a Queensland.
Speaker 4: Are you sure about P and G?
Speaker 2: No, how's anyone sure about PG? I hope support the game, mate,
Speaker 2: I hope it works. I think it's a cool. I
Speaker 2: hope it works. Support your game.
Speaker 4: Support Rugby league is your bread and butter.
Speaker 2: How am I death right in the game? Okay, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Skip it inn because Tommy Sanks is out there waiting
Speaker 1: coach chick and carry.
Speaker 2: I'm at the game tonight, so I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: Are you just come on? I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's last night with our Japanese exchange students, so it's
Speaker 3: his pick.
Speaker 4: Followed your social and a lovely job with the young fellow.
Speaker 2: Sydney Tower last night. He enjoyed that, So I just
Speaker 2: took a photo of you and you're on TV.
Speaker 4: You should be on Kentucky, Kentucky, Well you could talk
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 2: Rugby league is an old.
Speaker 4: When when you slay down a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, what's the older version of you've seen? He's but
Speaker 2: kent is probably not our democratic get down a new
Speaker 2: South both tourism. He can sell Sydney to the world.
Speaker 2: So you going out for dinner? Did you say?
Speaker 4: It's his choice?
Speaker 3: But he likes his obviously he likes his, his noodles
Speaker 3: and stuff.
Speaker 1: But I think he was talking about meat, meat, meat
Speaker 1: this morning, so it might be going to a stake here.
Speaker 4: Like a really good young fellow mate and your.
Speaker 3: Good kid, and I've met him.
Speaker 2: Well, I enjoy your footy.
Speaker 4: We'll talk next week, say guys,