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Speaker 1: This is the Fitsy and Whipper with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: A story that you would have been jarred by over

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Speaker 2: the weekend as it continues to develop is the spiking

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Speaker 2: of the.

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Speaker 1: Drinks that has taken place in Loos? Is it? How

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Speaker 1: I say?

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Speaker 2: This is really confronting and the news this morning is

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Speaker 2: also the tragic passing of two of the people involved,

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Speaker 2: Bianka Jones who's nineteen, and also Holly Bowles. They are

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Speaker 2: two young girls on a trip of a lifetime. They

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Speaker 2: are from Melbourne and their families have now spoken about

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Speaker 2: their passing and they're working with the authorities to try

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Speaker 2: and gain an understanding of what took place at the

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Speaker 2: bar at Nana's backpacker hostel.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, that's where they were staying. The barb was elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: That brings the death toll to six people that drank

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Speaker 2: this so called Tiger vodka, which was the free shots

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Speaker 2: that was passed around.

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Speaker 1: There was a bottle on each table.

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Speaker 2: I think there was over one hundred people there that

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Speaker 2: were offered free drinks that night. Ten people still in hospital.

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Speaker 2: But the story of how they passed as well and

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Speaker 2: the correspondence with their friends of messaging you back and

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Speaker 2: forth as they were sort of on the bathroom floor

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Speaker 2: and they were said to be vomiting blood at the

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Speaker 2: same time.

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Speaker 1: It's not just absolutely horrendous, it's.

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Speaker 3: Been very confronting seeing the vision of family members obviously

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Speaker 3: a very long trip to make over there, to be

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Speaker 3: just absolutely heartbreaking.

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Speaker 2: So our understanding is that the drink was laced with methanol.

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Speaker 2: So the question that remains is how did the methanol

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Speaker 2: end up in the drink?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so let me understand this is are they saying,

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Speaker 3: is this something that it was spiked on purpose or

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Speaker 3: it was its accidental it was something that there's some

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Speaker 3: process that goes wrong, I think with the making of

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Speaker 3: the alcohol.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to establish that did it happen during

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Speaker 2: production or was this a deliberate spiking. That's the hardest

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Speaker 2: part to determine, and that's what they're going to look

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Speaker 2: into now, as they were with the families.

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Speaker 1: Tommy, you were saying earlier, what's methanol in?

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Speaker 4: Oh, well, it's in lots of like plastics and paints

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Speaker 4: and car You can use it for like car parts

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Speaker 4: and anti freeze, not for human not for consumption, right, And.

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Speaker 1: Have they come out and said that it was a

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Speaker 4: Don't know, They just don't know, but they have they've

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Speaker 4: shut everything down so to try and you know, pinpoint that.

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Speaker 4: But they haven't said yes, but they have detained the

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Speaker 4: owner of the hostel and who was working there as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're handing out free bottles of this stuff,

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Speaker 2: I mean your mind runs doesn't know it's a natural

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Speaker 2: a deliberate spiking why you're handing out free bottles of

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Speaker 2: but sure Tiger vodka, the locally made vodka.

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Speaker 3: And unless you are intentionally trying to harm people, we

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Speaker 3: know that there's been a history of methanol poisoning. I

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Speaker 3: So I think people are obviously very aware of the

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Speaker 3: like just no, absolutely not. So is it a way

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Speaker 1: That's the other option, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: You wonder if it was just a top up because

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Speaker 2: they needed to fill a bottle. You don't know what

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Speaker 2: goes on over there thirteen twenty four to ten. I

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Speaker 2: know it's a heavy topic for your Monday. Have you

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Speaker 2: ever had a drink spiked? Have you ever had something

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Speaker 2: or for the way it was meant to be consumed?

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Speaker 1: Like, it's really really scary.

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Speaker 2: These two girls, especially when we speak about the Australian

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Speaker 2: They're on a low budget, so they've got communal rooms

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Speaker 2: the saddest part two to think that the chat and

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Speaker 2: then the correspondence and the text were silent. So they

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Speaker 3: They were meant to check out that day. I think

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Our thoughts with the families.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to share a story or you

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Speaker 2: know more about this, give us a call and get involved.

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Speaker 1: This morning, we're.

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Speaker 3: Going to go to a Nushka in north Manly. Good morning, morning.

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Speaker 1: And what happened?

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Speaker 5: I was about the same age, which is the scary thing.

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Speaker 5: I was about nineteen or twenty and just want to night.

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Speaker 5: That was friends and you know, they're given a free

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Speaker 5: kind of yeah, unconscious, so you don't know what happened.

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Speaker 2: So you give it a free bottle, you've consumed that

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Speaker 2: and then you don't remember or you passed out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I was unconscious for a couple of

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Speaker 6: And yeah wow?

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Speaker 5: And was this locally No, this was also in Southeast

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Speaker 1: And where were you when you'd passed out?

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Speaker 5: I was still in the club, so they thought I'd left,

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Speaker 5: but I was still there.

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Speaker 3: And what are your thoughts on why this happens? Do

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Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, it's hard to say. You know, I

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Speaker 5: think obviously everyone's trying to make a profit and perhaps

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Speaker 2: Who knows, because you're in that part of the world too.

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Speaker 2: Did you mention it to the authorities at all? Or

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Speaker 2: you just went on I'm like, oh, that's what happens

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Speaker 1: It was terrible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it's being young, you kind of don't

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Speaker 5: it's really scary.

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Speaker 2: So on you once you so the following day, did

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Speaker 2: you continue to be sick.

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Speaker 5: Or yeah, it was pretty on well for the next day,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, luckily nothing worst happened.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Phil in Marowena. Good morning Phil, Legends,

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Speaker 3: Good Phil.

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Speaker 1: What's your story.

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Speaker 6: Well, when I was a lot younger, me and my

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Speaker 6: best mate had taken both our girlfriends out to the

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Speaker 6: couple of cheeky drinks, have a good night, you know,

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Speaker 6: just being young and having fun. Right, and we'll get there.

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Speaker 6: We've had a few pre drinks, so me and my

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Speaker 6: best mate were like, well, let's go to loo and

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Speaker 6: we said the girls, you guys want to go grab

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Speaker 7: I'll go from there.

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Speaker 6: When we come back, they're going, oh, these nice guys

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Speaker 6: What's what's happened? But we've just gone this is too

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that bad.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well we couldn't we couldn't drive. There's no taxis

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Speaker 6: incoherent thata way where were you? Fortunately, I in this

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Speaker 6: area on the Sunshine Coast in Queensland, right. Yeah. And

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Speaker 6: the next day, like when we talked to the girls

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Speaker 3: And your drinks were okay then, is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: You bought your own and they'd been gifted these drinks from.

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Speaker 6: These Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's very specific what happened,

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Speaker 6: and it was very clear the malicious intent of what

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing yeah, it must happen so often, but people

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Speaker 3: don't report it because somehow they think that they are

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Speaker 3: their response. They've been out drinking, they've been they've made

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Speaker 3: their choices. Maybe they drank a bit too much, and

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Speaker 3: you when everything's a bit blurry anyway, you're not quite

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Speaker 3: sure how you come white the finger.

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Speaker 2: Andrews who parks, Hello, Andrew. You've actually been to this

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Speaker 7: I had fourteen years ago, and it's sort of like

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Speaker 7: the adventure capital of Laos, and we were worn not

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Speaker 7: that happened to the girl.

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Speaker 1: So deliberate spiking, you're.

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Speaker 7: Saying, Andrew, deliberate biking fourteen years ago?

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Speaker 7: God, like it was still there then, and.

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Speaker 1: Were you backpacking Andrew at the time. Yeah, it was,

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Speaker 1: so it was a bit of a party scene over there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's sort of liked, yeah, because they achieving whitewater

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Speaker 7: rafts and all that sort of cuff, and a lot

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Speaker 2: Amazing you had that information that someone obviously shared with you.

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Speaker 2: Was that the do you know if that was the

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Speaker 1: Don't drink any.

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Speaker 7: why just because of that reason that happened to the

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Speaker 1: The other Day's just awful, isn't it now? So that

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Speaker 1: area is known for it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but because it's not known at

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Speaker 7: the time, like, no one will be about it. So it's

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, because that bar to to where they went, Andrew,

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Speaker 2: you know, they the expos they had one to one

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Speaker 2: reporter was in there yesterday. There's a menu of drugs

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Speaker 2: that you can buy, so you know, the law. The

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Speaker 2: law is out the window in this bar where they were.

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Speaker 2: You can buy the you want and it's advertised freely.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. It's as well. You

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Speaker 7: can get any drug on the street just by asking

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Speaker 7: a local. Really, and I'll look you up.

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Speaker 2: Andrew, thank you, mate, appreciate the story. Emily's in part

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Speaker 2: that I am hi, and you've had your drink spiked?

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 8: So my friend was actually the target. A girl tried

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Speaker 8: I didn't know that it wasn't from him, so I

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Speaker 8: drank it, and yeah, it was pretty bad girl for

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Speaker 8: like three days.

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Speaker 2: The girl tried to spike your male friend's drink. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so she bought him the drink or did you say

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Speaker 2: it happened?

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Speaker 8: She gave him a drink that she'd obviously bought from

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Speaker 8: home because it was it was out in like a bush, right,

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Speaker 8: but she'd obviously gotten from home. And then he passed

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Speaker 8: it to me and then I got spiked, and you yeah,

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Speaker 8: and what was the effect? The effect? I was bedroomen

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Speaker 8: for three days and I was so sick, I was

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Speaker 8: vomiting for hours. I couldn't yeah, I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: If there is a point though, where you need to

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Speaker 3: make the decision to call triple zero and you get

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Speaker 3: to the hospital, I guess you think that these things

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Speaker 3: are going to pass and then it's too late.

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Speaker 2: It's like what you said, Kate, sometimes you're not sure

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Speaker 2: if the details blurry anyway. Yeah, so you're kind of

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Speaker 2: not sure where you're at. And thanks for your story.

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Speaker 2: That is really scary. We'll keep you up to date

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Speaker 2: on the news. This is continues to develop. It's Whipper

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Speaker 4: They