1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Well, you have to ask yourself, gaz is are you 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: ready for the eighteen game challenge. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: We are on the eve of AFLW. 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: We are on the cuffs of a penultimate round of 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: the men. 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: There's a lot of foody to take it, and you 7 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: had the prize to double. 8 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: I'm just concentrating on Friday night over in Perth and 9 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: then back to Adelaide's Saturday Night which game is bigger? 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Quickly? 11 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: Freemantle take on Brisbane for their life, both of them. 12 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Adelaide take on Collingwood for their lives. 13 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: I think it's Adelaide Collingwood by a whisker. 14 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,319 Speaker 3: That's your Victorian parochial isn't coming in there. 15 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to stay and do detention with Ross. I 16 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: hold they can warm you up. And then all eyes 17 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: kill to Perth for a. 18 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: Big All right, here's what we have lined up for 19 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: it Tonight. Simon Goodwin is about to join us. Semo 20 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: and Horse have been deep at work and what has 21 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: been and what's still to come, And then m Moore 22 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: and Laura Kine will preview the AFLW season, the questions 23 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: that sit over season ten and the opportunity that lies within, 24 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: and then for Crack preview, Ben Dixon, David King and 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: le Mon Tanya to go deep on round twenty three 26 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: the Wednesday d day for Ossie Broadbound. And you don't 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: have to be too creative here. 28 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: No, I'm turning my eyes to Fremantle and this time 29 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: last well actually two weeks earlier. This time last year, 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: they were sitting in third position on the AFL Ladder 31 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: with four weeks ago, Jared third on the ladder, the 32 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: Freemantle Footy Club steering down. Possibly one of the great 33 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: seasons they went third, they went sixth, sixth. 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Ninth, tenth season. 35 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: Over a year later they are fourth on the ladder 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: with two weeks to go. They don't want to go 37 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 3: out like that again, Jared. And they've got the reigning 38 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: Premier who are playing for their life arriving on their doorstep. 39 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: Can't remember a bigger time for the Freemantle Footy Club. 40 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: And right now and I know Brisbane Chris Fagan began 41 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: bag know about us, but you know the last two 42 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 3: premiers haven't made the finals. The precedent for that, you 43 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: know Fagus would hate it. But we could say Jesus 44 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: is getting hard to defend. There's no precon for getting 45 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: bundled out again. So Freemantle for me, and then you've 46 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: already shown your hand. 47 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: You're going to link up with patterns in y. 48 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: Hada is going to call it and that is going 49 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: to be one of the biggest nights in West Australian footy. 50 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: There really is. Here are the two coaches for Friday 51 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 2: night in Perth. They're forming. 52 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 4: The road has been really strong this year. You know. 53 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 5: The game's much like us, built on contest and stoppage 54 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 5: and it's going to be a good head head battle. 55 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 4: But one looking forward to it's. 56 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 6: An extraordinary I think there will never been a year 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 6: in AFL footy with fourteen wins in the draw which 58 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 6: we've got at the moment doesn't get you into the finals. 59 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 6: That was what we had last year and finished fifth. 60 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 6: So it's a it's it's it's unusual, but that's just 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 6: the way it is. 62 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: Gone. 63 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: Early read themselves, read the rundown. You're heading for Adelaide. Yeah, 64 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: so Adelaide for me. 65 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: So this game is largely being framed around Collingwoods, but 66 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: think about Adelaide. This is the chance to stitch up 67 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: the minor premiership and to do it is to take 68 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: down their bogie team. They have lost ten in a 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: row against Collingwood and the past five all come with 70 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: all sorts of incident and accident, five points, one point, 71 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: two points, four points, ten points, the gnashing of teeth 72 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: every time. And then it's also to take this away 73 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: from Collingwood. They have won ten in a row at 74 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: Adelaide Oval. That's our rageous that are visiting team on 75 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: your home ground against a myriad of opponent has won 76 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: ten games there. So knock them over, reclaim your fortress, 77 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: plant your flag as the minor premier, take the last 78 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: bogie away and get on with winning the flag. 79 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: That's what's at stake for Adelaide. 80 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 3: I did this game at the MCG and you walked away, 81 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: go and Adelaidea just off. They're not there, they're not 82 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: at that level. And now here we are ten or 83 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: four weeks later and they're playing for all the chips 84 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: on top of the ladder. 85 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: So you'll be with Jason Mark Roshudo or the full team. 86 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: Jack Revolt's got a hand in there because Super Saturday 87 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: will be going as well. 88 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: Here's Matthew Knicks today. They keep getting bigger, but yeah, 89 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: this is huge. This is a team that's I know 90 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: you'll go there. 91 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: They've had the wood on us and the reason for 92 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: that they're a very good side Collingwood. 93 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: They do it to a lot of sides. 94 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: If it's a close game, they find a way and 95 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: that's why they've been sitting up. 96 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: The top and highly respective for so long. They've beaten 97 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: us the last ten times. What a setup that is 98 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: for the round their heads. 99 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: All right, our agenda begins with Simon Goodwin. We have 100 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: shared the journey of the senior coach right throughout the 101 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: season and as the circumstances of twenty twenty five dictate, 102 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: we will live it right to the ends. 103 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: After his sacking last week. 104 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 7: Bert Chadwick, Frank Checker, Hughes, Norm Smith and Simon Goodwin 105 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 7: are the four men that have delivered a premiership to 106 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 7: the oldest football club in this game. 107 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: That puts him rare out. 108 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 7: He's a hero of this football club and we'll be 109 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 7: forever Today. 110 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: Many people's never thought this day would come. 111 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: This is possibly the best seven eight minutes in the 112 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: club's history. 113 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: It's a gram new flag, Lily. The club are taking 114 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 4: a different approach. As I said, I totally respect that decision. 115 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 5: I've been fortunate to coach this club for nine years. 116 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 5: I work with some wonderful players, some wonderful people. It's 117 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: been a great journey, something that I certainly don't take lightly. 118 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 5: I love coaching these players. 119 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: They've given their all for this football club. 120 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 5: And that's something old Truish forever. 121 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: Simon Goodwin's time at Melbourne came to a close eight 122 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: days ago. 123 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: Simon, thanks for being here on three sixty. 124 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: Welcome Edmund Jared Evening Gas good to be on. 125 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: What gammut of emotion have you gone through over the 126 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: past week or so? 127 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: I was a real roller coaster, clearly, obviously. 128 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 5: You go through the disappointment and the emotional letdown, you know, 129 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 5: sharing the emotions with your family and friends, and then 130 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 5: you go into what's next. You go from a day 131 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 5: where you thinking about a hundred different decisions and hundred 132 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 5: different things you've got to do to waking up and 133 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 5: nothing and walking the dog three times a day. So 134 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 5: life changes pretty quickly and you move forward pretty quickly. 135 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 5: And I've been blowing away with the messages of support 136 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 5: and love and thanks and you know, I'm looking forward 137 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 5: to the next opportunity. 138 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: Those in your professions say that this is part of 139 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: it and your day will come at How confronting was 140 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: it when your night came? 141 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, it's clearly confronting. You know. 142 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 5: You go into this role and into this career and 143 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 5: knowing that at some stage it's not going to end 144 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 5: on your terms. And as I said, I'm so fortunate 145 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 5: ten years in to coach a great footy club at 146 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 5: Melbourne and the oldest footy club in the land to 147 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 5: have ten years and you know your day's coming. But 148 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 5: you know, like everything, it's confronting. When it happens, it's emotional. 149 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 5: You put so much into it, You invest so much 150 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: into it, your faunily does and at the time it's 151 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 5: you know, it's incredibly confronting. 152 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 3: I suspect most coaches getting inkling somewhere along the way. 153 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: This one appeared to come out well for me anyway 154 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: on the outside. But what about you when you've got 155 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 3: a call from Brad Green on that night? 156 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: Was it? 157 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: You know, something a foot But give us a level 158 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: of your understanding of what happened that day and how 159 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: much of a shock it was. 160 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 4: To Yeah, look it was. 161 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 5: It was a shock, There's no doubt about that. You know, 162 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: I was disappointed that that they'd come to that decision. 163 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 5: But you know, you accept that decision, but clearly you 164 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 5: know you've invested so much, and you know you're always 165 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 5: vulnerable as a senior coach, And obviously with outcome we 166 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 5: had only won seven games for the season. If you 167 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 5: look in behind some of just the outcome of the 168 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: seven wins, there's things in our game that are heading 169 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: in the right direction. And that's why I'm quite bullish 170 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: about where the group's out on the opportunity that's presented 171 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 5: in front of them, especially for the next coach. 172 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 4: So it's confronting and it is a little bit vulnerable. 173 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: We'll get to whole up. But is that it's sort 174 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: of an indication though, shouldn't you be a little aware, 175 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: like if your communication with the people who make this 176 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: decision is where it should be, that it shouldn't be 177 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: such a big shock or is that a naive approach 178 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: from someone I don't know anything about it? 179 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: Oh? 180 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 5: I think you know, as I said, the board have 181 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: got their process and it would be really wrong for 182 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 5: me to sit here and speak on behalf of the 183 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 5: board and the process that they undertook, you know, would 184 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 5: I love to have sat there and gone through what 185 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 5: I thought was going to be the process moving forward 186 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: and the strategy needed, you know, really go after the 187 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 5: job that I really wanted. 188 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have loved to it. 189 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 5: Do one hundred percent think that I was the right 190 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 5: person to carry this team for it. Yeah, I do, 191 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 5: because I've done it before and build this next Premiership 192 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: team that I feel is well on its way to doing. 193 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 5: But you know, that's the decision the board made, and 194 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 5: I accept that decision that they need a new voice, 195 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 5: and they want a new voice and they're going to 196 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 5: get one. 197 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: So you would have liked the chance to fight for 198 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: your job. 199 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I would have. 200 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 5: You know, I had a standard board meeting the week 201 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: before and didn't have an inkling at that point. But 202 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: as I said, I'm sure the board went through a 203 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 5: thorough process. Don't speak on behalf of the board. All 204 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 5: I can speak on is what I would have loved 205 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 5: to have done, and I would have loved to got 206 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 5: that opportunity. 207 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 3: It's a tough decision to make for Brad Green, who's 208 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: a football person, But can you give us an insight 209 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: into his and their decision, the reasoning, Like he sat 210 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 3: next to you and said, oh, we need a fresh voice, 211 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: and I understand, probably out of respect he can't be 212 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,319 Speaker 3: as forthcoming, but there must have been more than that. 213 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 5: No, that was that was the reason I got, was 214 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 5: that they needed a fresh voice, and they needed a 215 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 5: new voice and a new you know, someone new to 216 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 5: take them forward. And as I said, I accept that decision. 217 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 5: I don't need to seek anymore. I'm sure they went 218 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 5: through a bit of a deeper process of what that 219 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: looked like. 220 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: But you know, a fresh voice, I mean there must 221 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: be greater nuance to it than that. 222 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 223 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 5: Look, obviously, as I said, that's, you know, disappointed. I 224 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 5: can't speak on behalf of the board. And I know 225 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 5: people pressed me about you know what what what is? 226 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 5: You know what was the board thing? I can't speak 227 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 5: on behalf of them. I love my time coaching the 228 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 5: Melbourne Footy Club. I love the players. I love the 229 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 5: position that we're starting to build towards again. Am I 230 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 5: disappointed that I'm not going to be a part of it? 231 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 232 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 6: Am. 233 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: Did you think being a premiership coach would have afforded 234 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: you a little more loyalty with a contract still to 235 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: run for next year? 236 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 5: Look, I think what being a premiership coach does is 237 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 5: that it gives great indication that you're capable of doing 238 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 5: the job and capable of building them back to where 239 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 5: where you think they are. And as I said, we 240 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: live in an outcome based sport, so I understand that, 241 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 5: you know, the seven wins of the season isn't It 242 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 5: isn't where we want it to be right now. But 243 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 5: if you look deeper in behind, you know some of 244 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 5: the things that would be we're transitioning towards success. There's 245 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 5: a lot of good things that are in behind that, 246 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 5: and that's the disappointing part. 247 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: Did you coach for the future? 248 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: Did you coach on the journey figuring you had twenty 249 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: twenty six? 250 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? 251 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: Absolutely. You know, no matter how long I've got on 252 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: a contract, I'll always. 253 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 5: Be coaching to build a premiership team because that's what 254 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: it's about. It's not about just coaching for the now 255 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 5: and getting to a final or winning eleven or twelve games. 256 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 4: It's about building. 257 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 5: And you know, we've got some wonderful young young kids 258 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 5: that were coming through that I wanted to play, that 259 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 5: I knew that were really important to building this next 260 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 5: premiership team. And I wouldn't change anything of that, I'd 261 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 5: always coach that way. 262 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 4: It's about the team, it's about the footy club. It's 263 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: not about me. 264 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: You coached without a without the next president there was 265 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: a president in player. You coach without the next chief 266 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: executive who had been appointed and wasn't there. 267 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: Did it lead to a lack of alignment? 268 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 5: I think clearly, clearly you need alignment for success. And 269 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 5: I think if you look around the great sporting organizations 270 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 5: around the world, in business, in sport, alignment's critical and 271 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 5: and it's incrediable because it builds trust and you can 272 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 5: make some really great decisions that you need to moving forward. 273 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 5: And you know, I can only speak about my early 274 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 5: days at Melbourne. You know, Peter Jackson was wonderful in 275 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 5: setting that environment up to build that stability to have 276 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 5: six years of making wonderful decisions for the footy club 277 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 5: which are able to build the foundations for the success 278 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 5: that was needed. So I think any coach, if you 279 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 5: read any book of any successful coach, the biggest thing 280 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 5: they talk about his stability in alignment. 281 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: Is it a fractured football club. 282 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: Inasmuch as the things Jared pointed to the interim CEO 283 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 3: of the president that's they're but about to hand over physically, 284 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 3: you're at the MCG, you're at Amy Park, you're at Casey. 285 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: Does that add up to a fractured football club? 286 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: No, I think I wouldn't say that. 287 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 5: I think there's certainly been challenges that shit within that 288 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 5: and there's things that you all football clubs need to 289 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 5: work on. 290 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: Melbourne's no different. But if you walk through the. 291 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 5: Doors training at Casey Fields with those players, the environment's healthy, 292 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 5: the environment's. 293 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 4: Alive and well. 294 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 5: They're committed as ever to getting better and that's the 295 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 5: biggest part of your program to get right. 296 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 4: And they're in a really good space. 297 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 3: So what would in your mind when Melbourne support to 298 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 3: say we run that flag in twenty two anyone that 299 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 3: beautifully place the listers where it's at. What in your 300 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 3: mind has led to not having greater success than you 301 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 3: would would like and got to the point now where 302 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: you're no longer Yeah. 303 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 5: As I said, one one of the things I'm most 304 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 5: proud of, which I spoke about in my press conference 305 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 5: last week, was our ability to back up twenty two 306 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 5: and twenty three and put ourselves in top four positions 307 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 5: to give ourselves a chance to win another premiership. That's 308 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 5: difficult in the modern game, and you look in recent times, 309 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 5: there's not too many teams have only made finals finishing 310 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: the top four to give themselves opportunities. So we weren't 311 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: able to maximize those opportunities as well as we could 312 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,479 Speaker 5: to win that next premiership. 313 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 4: But it is something I'm really proud of. You know. 314 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: I listened to a podcast yesterday and it was Pete 315 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 5: Carroll Las Vegas Raiders, and he was talking about you 316 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: got to ask. 317 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 4: The question, is it tougher to build a premiership program 318 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: or maintain a premiership program? 319 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 5: And they're two very different things, and there's no doubt 320 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 5: that they've both got different challenges. But maintaining it's really 321 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 5: different because you really dig into the purpose. The intrinsic 322 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 5: motivations are really tested to their core because you climbed 323 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 5: the mountain and can you do it over and over 324 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 5: and over again? 325 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 4: And that tests every one? 326 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: Did they become an issue for the group because there 327 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: were some disciplinary issues which have been well documented. Did 328 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: they handle the success well and were you're hard. 329 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: Enough on them? 330 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: Clearly? 331 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 5: You know, you get tested in your purpose and we 332 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 5: would have done things a little bit differently through that 333 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 5: period to really make sure we had some unforeseen challenges. 334 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 4: I was tough on the group. You know. 335 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: I drove a pretty hard program through, especially post the 336 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 5: twenty one Grand Final. I drove an incredibly hard program 337 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: because I knew that getting back to that top of 338 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 5: the mountain is tough and you need to really push 339 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 5: and drive. And we had some challenges that were un 340 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 5: for seen. You know, we could have done things a 341 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 5: little bit better. But you know, the last few years 342 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 5: has been about pivoting and transitioning to what the next 343 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 5: team is going to look like. 344 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: Did the club spend too much energy fighting the fights 345 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: on too many fronts, a lot of it of its 346 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: own making, from the board to the player group, in 347 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: a period where you needed to channel all your energy 348 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: towards winning another flag. 349 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the question you'd have to ask, you know 350 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 5: that the powers to be, you know, about the energy 351 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 5: that was given to that. My energy was really about 352 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 5: what to give to the team. 353 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: You know. 354 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 5: I'm a coach of the Melbourne football team, you know, 355 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 5: and I wanted to make sure I could block out 356 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 5: the noise and give them the best opportunity for success. 357 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 5: And that's my job, and that's the way I went 358 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 5: about my business. 359 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: Has the board got a good handle on where this 360 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: club's at right now? 361 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: You'd have to have to ask them, and you'd have 362 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: to ask them. You want me to talk? No, No, no's 363 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: the question you have to ask. You've got Greenie' number, 364 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: give him a call. Yeah. 365 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: But he's spoken about the fact that he thinks there finals. 366 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he felt you should have been playing finals this year. 367 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: Yes, which you've spoken about the fact that he is 368 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: a club in transition. So that's the odds with where 369 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: they're at. So your capacity to convince them is not 370 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: to the point where obviously you'd like it. 371 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. I talk about this all the time. 372 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 5: I think at the start of every season there's probably 373 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: fourteen or fifteen teams that have a want and a 374 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 5: desire to play finals. There's no question about that. I 375 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 5: don't like the word expectations. I've got a view that 376 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 5: you are looking to build your next premiership team. You know, 377 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 5: I want to be someone that builds premiership teams and 378 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 5: just getting to the finals isn't the outcome you're looking for. 379 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 5: And there's a lot of things that go into that, 380 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 5: and sometimes you know, seven wins compared to twelve wins. 381 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 4: There isn't much in it. 382 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: But what you want to make sure you're seeing is 383 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 5: the transition to what you're trying to become. 384 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 3: And that's where you think they're at right now. So 385 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: if a coach comes along and says, where have you 386 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: left this club at? The playing list is transitional. So 387 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: where's that Petrarca, where's that leave? 388 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: Oliver? 389 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: Where's that leave? May in particular in terms of are 390 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: they going to. 391 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: Be part of this next Yeah, I think But for 392 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 5: the next coach, I think it's set up incredibly well. 393 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 5: I'd be incredibly excited by the group that they've got 394 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: available to them. The talent's coming through and you know, 395 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 5: their decisions that I don't have to make anymore. 396 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: So you made decisions around what you were going to 397 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: do with that senior corps. Had you contemplated breaking that 398 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: up at the end of this. 399 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 5: Season, That's something, as I said, that's something that would 400 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: stick stay between myself and the board and everyone you 401 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 5: know at the football club. That's not for me need 402 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: to make those decisions or speak about. You know, I've 403 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 5: coached these guys for a long, long period of time. 404 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: I love them all dearly. 405 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 5: I think they're wonderful people and wonderful players, and I 406 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 5: think they are all icons of the Melbourne Footy Club. 407 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: Notwithstanding you're not going to answer it publicly. Had you 408 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: presented that to the board on the previous Monday night. 409 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 4: No, I'd spoken to the board. 410 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,719 Speaker 5: It was just a standard board meeting about you know, 411 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 5: where we were in the season, where we're at and 412 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 5: what we're trying to do. 413 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 3: The selfless mantra that drove you to a success. I 414 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 3: remember the time vividly. It was the catch cry of 415 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,239 Speaker 3: the whole setup being in Perth over the time. It 416 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: was not about it was parking individual ego and embracing 417 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 3: team and they did it to a point where the 418 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: individual accolades just flowed. That was the irony of it all. 419 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: So I think they've got away from that. Is that 420 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: harsh or is there some truth to that? 421 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 5: That's clearly when you know that success is there when 422 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 5: everyone can just fully give themselves over the team and 423 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 5: just being incredibly humble and hungry, and that's when you 424 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 5: know your team's ready for success and there's no doubt. 425 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 5: Post success is more challenging, you know, it just is 426 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 5: there's more self interest, more eager that starts to kick in, 427 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 5: and that's something that everyone needs to be aware of 428 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: and ultimately is a footy club, you want to be 429 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 5: a humble, hungry organization that's completely tam orientated. 430 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 2: Do you think. 431 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: There was a degree of impatience around you were trying 432 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: to transform the connection piece? There's actually some data around 433 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: to say you did it in the last six weeks, 434 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: which I'm sure you're not oblivious too, but I don't 435 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: know whether your board was oblivious to it or not. 436 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: Did you pay the price for not being. 437 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: Able to resolve quickly enough that core issue in your game? 438 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no question that was an issue for us 439 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 5: over a period of time. Probably in the end it 440 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 5: costs us a couple of finals in twenty three and 441 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 5: it was clearly a facet abad game that we needed. 442 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: To work on and get to work too quickly. 443 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 5: And right now in the last sort of nine ten weeks, 444 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 5: it's been transitioning to a point that's in the top 445 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 5: six in the competition, and that's really exciting. 446 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 4: Clearly, the connection and the reality to. 447 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 5: Transition the ball for one of the ground, the connection inside, 448 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 5: fifty percent direct score per entry, all that stuff is 449 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 5: transitioning in the right direction, and they're the numbers that 450 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 5: sometimes you look in behind around what we're trying to 451 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 5: do and what we're trying to generate for success outside 452 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 5: of just the win loss. 453 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: On Did you watch on Sunday? 454 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 4: I did the second half. 455 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 5: I had a bit of a lunch at a birthday 456 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 5: lunch in Paddington that I wasn't planning to go to, 457 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 5: but when I got home, you know, I sat there 458 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 5: obviously with some mixed emotions initially, but ultimately when the 459 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 5: game was on. 460 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: The line, I want them to win. 461 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 5: I love the players, I love the group, and I 462 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 5: love the coaches and all the work that's gone into 463 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 5: trying to get the wins on the board. 464 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 4: And I was cheering from the game. 465 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: Have you had the chance to sit down with a group? 466 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 5: I spoke to the group pro the press conference and 467 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 5: shared my love for them and what they've given me 468 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 5: and over the journey. And I've taken Max and Jack 469 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 5: out for a and just a little bit of a 470 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 5: reflection last Thursday. 471 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: Did you ever so love at the start of the year. 472 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 5: Oh, that's a big part of you know, footy is 473 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 5: to connect connection and we had work to do in 474 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 5: that space. 475 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 4: Was to reconnect and to get. 476 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 5: Everyone back on the same page as a football team. 477 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 5: And then from that connection point you can grow some 478 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 5: wonderful things. And that was well on the way. But 479 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 5: you know, people criticize the love side of it. Connection 480 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 5: is a big thing, and the first part was to 481 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 5: bring them back together. 482 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 3: I've just been a point of the coach. I come 483 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 3: to you and say, what do they need in your 484 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 3: eyes to take them to the next step. 485 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 486 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 5: Look, you know clearly the game's becoming a transition game 487 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 5: and you need to make sure that you've got the 488 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 5: capacity to be able to do that. You need to 489 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 5: be able the capacity to execute consistently over time under pressure. 490 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 5: And I think, as I said that the recruiting and 491 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: list management team have done a great job in the 492 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: last couple of years have started to bring those type 493 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 5: of players into the footy club. I think there's no 494 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 5: doubt there's more of that needed. And as I said, 495 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 5: I think the next coach is going to be pleasantly 496 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 5: surprised what he's got at his disposal. 497 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: Those test kings that have held you in such great stead. 498 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: We're talking to buy any and Oliver on those boys. 499 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 3: Have they got the capacity to change with the changing time. 500 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely, they're changing now. 501 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 5: I'm watching them now, how they're going about you know, 502 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 5: how they train, how they move, what they focus in on. 503 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: It's different and they're starting to evolve their games to 504 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 5: a different level. And I think you know they've all 505 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: got still some great years of footing ahead of them. 506 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: You will be in demand, I have no doubt about that. 507 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: Is have in fact the Giants. Have you spent time 508 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: with the Giants this week? 509 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 5: I've spent some time up in Sydney and I'm going 510 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 5: to catch up with a whole range of different people. 511 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 5: I'm open minded to doing anything in football. I love 512 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 5: the game, I love coaching. I want to get away, 513 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 5: have a spell, relax, do some PD and coaching is 514 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 5: never complete. You want to get better and I know, 515 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 5: with experience and everything that I've gone through with some 516 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 5: p D, I'm going to come back even better. So 517 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 5: I'll speak to any club that is in the process 518 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 5: of trying to build a premiership team and think that 519 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 5: I can add some value. 520 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: That's the pause and the coaching journey, which is what 521 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: been eleven straight years at Melbourne. You don't seem overly 522 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: wounded by it. 523 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 2: Are you are? You guarding against that or we not 524 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: seeing that? 525 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: No, I just I'm an optimistic person. I look at 526 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 5: opportunity and everything happens for a reason. As I said, 527 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 5: I was so fortunate to bet a great footy club 528 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 5: for eleven years. That journey has come to a close. 529 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 5: Another one awaits for me, A new adventure awaits. I'm 530 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 5: looking forward to that and I'm looking forward to my 531 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 5: next stint in the AFL. 532 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for being part of our program throughout the year. 533 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 4: It's good to have you. 534 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 3: Thanksgas On behalf of the Melbourne Faithful, Jared one of 535 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: only four premiership coaches and hopefully we add to that. 536 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: It's good even at the minute you're. 537 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: In rare air. 538 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 2: You're the only ones fill alive. Thanks, good luck for 539 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: what comes next. 540 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: Simon Goodwin The journey of the coach throughout the season.