1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: I'll get our team. Welcome to another installment the show. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: It's Fatty Harps, It's a less bow. It's Tiffany and 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: I've got a rock in my bra and I've found 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: Navana cook. Can I cook? 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Get they Harps? 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: But do you still have that rock in your undergarments? 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: Or have you sometimes it slips out? 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Oh? Really? 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? The weekend Christmas, I went missing for a week. 10 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Are you still holding onto any semblance of the inner 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: tranquility and nirvana that you brought back from the far 12 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: away lands? Or have you just faltered to your hangry self? 13 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: Well? 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 4: There, I never let myself get angry because that's just dangerous, 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 4: whether there's a rock in my bra or not. 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Well, there's a simple solution to hangar in ess. 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: It's called food. 18 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I'm all over that. 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're going to have to catch me up a 20 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: little here, guys, Why is Tiffany wearing a rock in 21 00:00:59,320 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: around it? 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 2: Actually it's in my bra. 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: That's a lot part of you. 24 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: That's part of your undergarments. 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: Even no one calls them mondays. 26 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Al Right, all right, well, both gillispo and I am 27 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: not fucking twenty one years old, So give us some break. 28 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: I did so, explained to Gillespo the aforementioned correlation between 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: Nirvana and the rock and your bra. 30 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: Well, Gillispo, when I came back from my trip to 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: the Himalayas late last year, I brought half of the 32 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: Himalayas with me. I flogged a piece of the Himalayas 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 4: off every peak we hiked to, and there was one 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: little piece that I like to just one day, I 35 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 4: walked and I popped it in my bra that I 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: just stuck my hands down. 37 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: Now, I didn't mean to do that. I was in 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: my own world then, like this is. 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 4: Not video, and I forgot about it right, and I 40 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 4: slept with it in there, and that night I had 41 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 4: the best night sleep I've ever had recorded on my 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: stra on my garment in my life. 43 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: So so now you do it every night, I'll put. 44 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: It in there sometimes. 45 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: Well, but when she did come back, and I didn't 46 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: know any of the rock story, but there was a 47 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: I reckon there was about a week where you were 48 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: really different than a week where you were kind of, 49 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, still in the ballpark. But I reckon, you 50 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: know you've not you. I reckon, you're still about thirty 51 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: percent of that. But you're definitely not exactly where you 52 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: were when you got back from me. 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: I'm not since Christmas, since after Christmas the break and yeah, 54 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: I'm exhaust Perhaps it's the pause, I reckon. 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's also because you fucked your back at 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: the gym deadlifting that that's that's exhausting as well. So 57 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: you have a deadlift glespo. I know we're not talking 58 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: about deadlifting. 59 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: I maybe you did it once or twice when I 60 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 3: was young and stupid in university. But when I saw 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: the guys, you know, strappen the belts on to stop 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: there in its falling out when they did it, I thought, yeah, 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: maybe that's not for me. 64 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: I actually think that makes you in it's more likely 65 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: to fall out because it adds abdominal pressure. Yeah there, 66 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah. I'm not a big fan of the belts. 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just going to tell for everyone 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: who wants to hear this, I'm going to give you 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: a quick tip on belts. One, it's not that they're terrible, 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: but the design of most belts is actually bad design. 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: Because most weight belts that you see is wide at 72 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: the back, like something like one hundred mil or ten 73 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: centimeters or four inches and narrow at the front quite 74 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: often like thirty mel or one and a quarter or 75 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: one and a half inches. An actual fact, that should 76 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: be the same with about one hundred mil all the 77 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: way around to actually give you that stability. Nobody needed 78 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: to know that. But just for all of those who 79 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: think I'm thinking of getting a weight belt, no, you know, preferably, well, 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say don't you use one? But I haven't 81 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: used one for I used one three times about forty 82 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: years ago, in not one since, so that doesn't mean anything. 83 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: David Gillespie, We're not talking about strength training rocks in 84 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: bras or in a piece or Nirvana. We were going 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: to talk about booze because you wrote an article about booze, 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: but you wanted to chat and Tip has got very 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: excited at the idea of chatting about vitamin B six. 88 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: I did not read that article. I do not know anything. 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: So Tip might have a question. But I'm just going 90 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: to open the vitamin B six door and you're going 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: to tell us, and if I think of something brilliant 92 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: or not brilliant, I'll ask it as we go. 93 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: Right. Oh okay, so. 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: No pressure, no pressure be amazing. 95 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: Can't take any credit for the original story, which was 96 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: an investigation done I think on the seven thirty report 97 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: last week on the ABC. Not a show I can 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: admit to watching terribly regularly, but I and to be 99 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 3: wandering past the telly when my wife was watching it, 100 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: and she was very interested in it. And I'll tell 101 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: you why in a moment. But the show was about 102 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: people overdosing on vitamin B six and it was It 103 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 3: featured a doctor, I think she's retired now, emergency medicine 104 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: specialist who had been diagnosed with all sorts of consequences 105 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: that are generally known to be associated with overdosing on 106 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: vitamin B six, most notably the peripheral neuropathy, which is 107 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: you know where you get tingling in your fingers and 108 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: your toes, your extremities and so on, and sometimes associated 109 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: with diabetes and so on. But B six overdosing can 110 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: be really really bad. It can be extremely toxic. And 111 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: what the story was about was that a lot of 112 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: Australians are unintentionally, particularly older women, menopausal women in particular, 113 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: unintentionally overdosing on this not because they're racing out and 114 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 3: golfing down tubs of B six supplements, but because they're 115 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: taking magnesium tablets. So really magnesium tablets are you know, 116 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: the reason most people take them is that they help 117 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 3: with leg cramps, so you know, they're good for muscles, 118 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: they help with leg cramps. There's a lot of leg 119 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: cramping going on in menopause, so a lot of women 120 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: who are approaching or in menopause are often told to 121 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 3: take magnesium tablets, which is of course why my dear 122 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: wife was watching this show with great interest, because she's 123 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: taking magnesium tablets. What she hadn't realized is that those 124 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 3: tablets often come with a very significant dose of vitamin 125 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: B six. The one she was taking had fifty milligrams 126 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 3: per tablet. Now that's meaningless to anybody who doesn't know 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: the dosing recommendations for vitamin B but the recommended dose 128 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: of vitamin B six for Australians is somewhere between one 129 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 3: and two milligrams per day, so fifty is a lot. 130 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: It's a hell of a one one and two Mili. 131 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: I was just looking right now, yeah one, as you 132 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: were doing that, I was looking at one point three 133 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: to one point seven, So yeah, give will take one 134 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: to two yep. And what did you say? Fifty million, 135 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: fifty and. 136 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: Not even not even highlighted. So you're taking a magnesium tablet. Yeah, 137 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 3: and if you if you read the fine print on 138 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: the back, you realize, actually, this magnesium tablet has fifty 139 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: milligrams per tablet? Was vitamin B six in it? Now? 140 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: Can I just read something that's interesting for this? So 141 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: this is the idea, this Australian RDII is right. So 142 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: nine to fifty year old people one point three, fifty 143 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: one to seventy that's you, David one point seven and 144 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: U Tiff. 145 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: Are we going to get to your age group soon? 146 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I'm making fun of you. Pregnant women one 147 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: point nine breastfeeding women too, So the absolute upper limit 148 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: is breastfeeding women where the RDI or recommended daily intagers 149 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: two milligrams and based on that, so even at the 150 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: very upper limit recommendation, that's got twenty five times the 151 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: recommended amount in those magnesium cells. 152 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 3: And they're not the worst. Like I had a quick 153 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: look around the supermarket after this, and there are a 154 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: few brands there with sixty milligrams in per tablet. And 155 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 3: the first thing that might occur to you is why 156 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: why is vitamin B six being added into these tablets, 157 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: And the answer is because vitamin B six is thought 158 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: to help with magnesium absorption. So the people are selling 159 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: magnesium perls have said, oh, well, vitamin's helps with absorption, 160 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: so we'll go ahead and whack that in the in 161 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: the pill without any real regard by the look of it, 162 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: to the possibility that you might be seriously overdosing vitamin 163 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: B six. Now, the question, by the way, is do 164 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: we need any vitamin B six. You won't find too 165 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: many supplements that claim it or that you can just 166 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: go on by the vitamin B six because we get 167 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: that one to two milligrams easily from our food supply. 168 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: So it's a water soluble vitamin. Green leafy veedged that 169 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 3: the usual story about vitamins. Okay, it's it's the sort 170 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: of thing that people don't need to supplement for deficiency. 171 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 3: Envitamin B six in Australia is almost non existent. So 172 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: and if you were deficient vitamin B six, then you 173 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: would probably be seeing a doctor who would give you 174 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: an appropriate prescription for an appropriate level of B six supplementation. 175 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 3: But the problem here is that we've got a large 176 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 3: segment of the population unintentionally taking very serious doses of 177 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 3: this stuff. Now, the TGA recently reviewed the evidence on 178 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: this in twenty twenty and decided, you know, whoopsie, this 179 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: could be a bit of a problem and required the 180 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: manufacturers to put in place warnings on anything that has 181 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 3: more than ten milligrams per dose. So the TGA says, 182 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: you know, the therapeutic goods. The regulator who regulates vitamins 183 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: in Australia said, oh geez, that's a bit unfortunate. So listen. 184 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 3: What we'll do is we'll make them put a warning 185 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: on the label. So they've got more than ten milligrams in, 186 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: they've got to say that that's the case. So I 187 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: went looking for the warning on the ones that my 188 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: wife was taking, because fifty milligrams is definitely more than ten, 189 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 3: and I certainly hadn't noticed a warning when buying them. 190 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 3: But it was there. It was there. It was in 191 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 3: very very very small print under a lot of other 192 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: very very small print in black on an orange background, 193 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 3: which is really easy to read, and it said if 194 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: you notice tingling in your fingers, stop taking these. Wow. 195 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: Wow, that is can I just read? Also, something else 196 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: interesting I'm doing research while you're doing that. So vitin 197 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: B six toxicity also known as mega vitamin B six 198 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: syndrome because when someone takes too much, as David says, 199 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: so symptoms everyone numbness and tingling hands, feet, blah blah blah, 200 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: muscle weakness. Having a really scary thought as I'm saying 201 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: all this, which I'll share with you, muscle weakness, weakness 202 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: in the legs and glutes, or a gradual deterioration of 203 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: muscle strength, painful skin lesions or bone pains, walking difficulty, 204 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: balanced difficulty, other symptoms heartburn, nausea, sensitivity, sunlight. This I'm 205 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: when I get off this call, I'm going to ring 206 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: my mum and see if my dad started taking a 207 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: magnesium supplement in the last six months, because my like, 208 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: he's getting old, but in the last six months, his 209 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: all of this stuff we're talking about is increased. It 210 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: seems to have ten xt like at a disproportionate rate, 211 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: which may or may have been not related. But yeah, 212 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: that's really interesting. And also here's another one, just quickly, David, 213 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: A twenty fifteen study conducted at London Hospital, so just 214 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: with random patients who are in there for other reasons. 215 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: They check their B six and thirty eight percent of 216 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: them had, So that's just a random sample thirty eight 217 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: percent of a general group, and ten percent of them 218 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: exhibited sensory in Europe fee and that's like they weren't 219 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: in there for that. That was just a group that 220 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: they wow. 221 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, a lot of people could be seriously overdosing 222 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: on B six without the slightest knowledge of it. A 223 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: lot of multi vitamins included, as we said, but the 224 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 3: big one here is magnesium. It's a seriously large dose. 225 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 3: By the way, you can buy magnesium tablets that have 226 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 3: no B six in them, which is of course what 227 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: I've gone and done, but you have to really be 228 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: looking for it because the vast majority of them have 229 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: B six in them, and they all have the compulsory 230 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: warning label on them in the very very fine print 231 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: way way at the back. But this is a serious, 232 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 3: serious issue, and the story on seven thirty, which I'd 233 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 3: recommend anyone go take a look at. I'm sure Tiffany 234 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: can put a link in the show notes, but anyone 235 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: can go look at that, and I think it's worth 236 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: watching it because this is a doctor that they're talking 237 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: about She's an emergency medicine specialist, has been, has practiced 238 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: all her life, and knew nothing about this, absolutely nothing 239 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: about this. The TGA says, oh, we told all the doctors, 240 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: and she's saying, well, no one told me. And I 241 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: rather suspect that many gps don't know about this, and 242 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 3: even if they do know about B six toxicity, they're 243 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: probably not asking their patients are you taking magnesium tablets? 244 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: Because putting the two together is a bit of a leap. 245 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: Imagine if it was I mean anything else where we said, 246 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, like, for example, I think the idea for 247 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: sodium is something like two thousand milligrams a day or something. 248 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: Two grams is it? But imagine if imagine if so 249 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: two thousand milligrams because it's salt, and we go, oh, yeah, fuck, 250 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: you can't have too much sold it'll kill your blood 251 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: pressure and all that, right, Imagine if there was something 252 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: that had, you know, twenty five times that, so instead 253 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: of two thousand, it had fifty thousand milligrams of salt, 254 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: we'd all be running around with our arms in the air. 255 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: But you know, well, the other thing to know about this, 256 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 3: sorry to interrupt you, but the other thing to know 257 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: about this is we get rid of I mean, we're 258 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 3: urinate out like all water soluble vitamins. You know, we 259 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 3: get rid of this stuff. The trouble is we're pretty 260 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: good at retaining it too. So one tablet that contains 261 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: fifty milligrams is thirty days worth. It will take us 262 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 3: thirty days to get rid of that let alone. If 263 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 3: we're taking it every single day, which is usually the 264 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: recommended dose from magnesium tablet, then you are seriously taking 265 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: it because then it's a cumulative effect. 266 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: That old kind of I was going to say lifestyle. 267 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: It's not a lifestyle. But I actually used to train 268 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: a doctor I wish I'm not going to mention in 269 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: his name, and this was I've trained a bunch of doctors, 270 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: but this was early day. I clearly remember him saying 271 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: to me when I was talking him about vitamins. He goes, well, 272 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: they don't really do much for a start, That's what 273 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: he said. And he goes, but you can't overdose on 274 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: any of that stuff. You'll just piss it out. Excuse 275 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: my language, but that's what he said. But I'm thinking, 276 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: and for a long time I believed him that. Well, 277 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: it didn't really matter, like, you know, if you took 278 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: if you took too much, it didn't matter because you're 279 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: just weird out when you go to the toilet. 280 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, I was definitely in that camp too for 281 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: a long time. But there's starting to be some really 282 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: concerning things even with water. So there's two different types 283 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 3: of vitamins, fat soluble and water soluble. The vast majority 284 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: of them, the ones we come across normally are water soluble, 285 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 3: so vitamin C, vitamin B and so on, and yeah, 286 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: will urinate those out. But even with vitamin C, the 287 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 3: people think you you can't possibly have too much of 288 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: a good thing with that. There really are some quite 289 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: concerning studies about links between high dose vitamin C and 290 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 3: urinary issues in males, so prostate cancer and other urinary difficulties. 291 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: So look, I don't want to be scaring your listeners 292 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: to death on that one, but there are studies out 293 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 3: there that sort of ring alarm bells about that. Now 294 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 3: they are high dose y. You know, I'm not saying 295 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: popping the occasional vitamin C is going to be doing 296 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 3: anyone any harm, But yeah, I don't think it's entirely 297 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: true to say that there are no there's no chance 298 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: of harm from vitamin consumption. But particularly where you're talking 299 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 3: about something like this where the person's not intentionally taking 300 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 3: the vitamin at all. They don't even know they're taking 301 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 3: the vitamin. 302 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: That's the important thing. Like they are literally being given 303 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: a ridiculous sleep MEGAMEGAMEGA dose of something that they didn't choose, 304 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: Like they're actually getting it for the magnesium. 305 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: At least with vitamin C, if you're taking high dose 306 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 3: vitamin C, you know, if you're chugging half a bottle 307 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 3: of thousand milligram tablets vitamin C every day, you know 308 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: you're doing it. It would be something to work your 309 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 3: way through. So and you might well think to yourself, 310 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: I wonder if I should do a bit of research 311 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 3: about whether this is good for me or not. But 312 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 3: in this circumstance, you don't even know you're doing it. Now, 313 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 3: with the fat soluble vitamins, you've got to be even 314 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 3: more cautious because a lot of them are permanently part 315 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: of us or don't go away quickly. So there are 316 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 3: certainly other vitamins where you know there are maximum limits 317 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 3: for very very good reasons. 318 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: So I've just enlisted the services of my personal assistant 319 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: also known as chat GPT, and he tells me because 320 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: mine's a bloke, so certain vitamins can be toxic when 321 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: consuming excessive amounts, which we know, particularly fat soluble vitamins. Yeah, 322 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Vitamin A, D, E, and K is on their list. 323 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: Wow A symptoms headache, dissiness, nausea, liver damage, blurred vision, 324 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: fucking our bone pain or fractures, and during pregnancy, excessive 325 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: viamin A can cause birth defects. 326 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 327 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: Vitamin D in takes above four thousand iu a day 328 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: and not recommended. Nausea, vomiting, kidney damage, muscle weakness, calcification 329 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: of soft tissues. Vitamin E includes risk of bleeding, impaired 330 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: blood clotting blah but blood Vitamin K rare but can occur, 331 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: liver damage and hemolytic anemia. Water the wages quickly, B 332 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: six and B three. 333 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. The thing though, once again coming back to it, 334 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: is you're not going to be act dentally taking any 335 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 3: of those the BC except B six, except B six. Yeah. 336 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 3: I mean for most of those, you are going to 337 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 3: be quite intentionally taking them, probably under the advice of 338 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: a health professional, because you've been diagnosed as being deficient 339 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 3: in some way, and there's probably a really good reason 340 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: for that, but this one, you're getting huge doses, way 341 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 3: over the recommended limits, doses that require warnings on products, 342 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: and and you don't even know it. 343 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: Amazing, that's amazing, and so well that, like, what what 344 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: would happen from? I mean, you're a lawyer as well 345 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: as a researcher and a general bloody noel, but we 346 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 1: love you for that. What would what would have to 347 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 1: happen for? I mean, this is maybe a bigger question 348 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: than then I should ask, But what would have to 349 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: happen for that? Like? What's the process? Would that years 350 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: to undo that? So that they're assuming you warnings on 351 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: labels and stuff? Ah? 352 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. I think it would take one 353 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 3: big lawsuit to get to get some pretty serious action there. Personally, 354 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 3: I think the TGA should be doing more than requiring 355 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 3: people to put virtually invisible warnings on labels when there's 356 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 3: something like this going on, particularly when they themselves have 357 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 3: assessed the evidence and said there is real risk of 358 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 3: harm here, you know, I feel we should get more 359 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 3: from our regulators when there's something like this going on. 360 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: I don't think we should be hearing about it on 361 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: a news show on Telly. I think it should be 362 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: our regulators jumping all over this and saying, hang on, 363 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: this can't happen. 364 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, can I ask? I was going to say, can 365 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: I ask a personal question and then ask a personal question? 366 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: So ignore the first question. My personal question is do 367 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: you take any supplements? And if so, what if you're 368 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: happy to share? 369 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: I have started in the last few years taking garlic pearls. 370 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: That's the only supplement I take. 371 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: Is that because you've got six kids and you don't 372 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: want any more? 373 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: There are other ways to sort that out. I'll share 374 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 3: you some pictures later. 375 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Ple he's done. 376 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: No, but garlic piells are primarily because there's been some 377 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: really really interesting research. There's a particular chemical in garlic 378 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: that prevents the attachment of many viruses, and so if 379 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 3: you want a general prophylactic against being infected with a 380 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: multitude of viruses, then it's not a bad habit to 381 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 3: get into. And how that are chomping on garlic every day? Yeah? 382 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: What's in garlic pills? Here we go? 383 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 3: Oh, so does chat ebt have a name? Is it 384 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: Fred or something like that? 385 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah? 386 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 3: Brian, Brian Brian. 387 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: What supplements do you I should know this, but I 388 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: actually don't. What supplements do you take regularly? 389 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: I take creatine, fish oil, and I just had just 390 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: got back into taking magnesium, which is why I fell 391 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 4: over backwards after seeing that article. 392 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: Did you go did you look at the amount of 393 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: whatever I forget already? B six sorry B six in 394 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: your magnesium? 395 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: And I think it was from memory. I think it 396 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: was like forty milligrams or something. 397 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: Wow? 398 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow? 399 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: And where are those those pills now? 400 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 3: In the bin? 401 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: It's a powder and he's going straight in the bin. 402 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: Hey, Gil, I spose I've got another related but not 403 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: specific to this conversation, but related question. So I recognize 404 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: started reading labels, you know, on food and supplements and 405 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: pills and powders and potions. And I don't know when 406 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: I was as long as they've been around late thirty years. 407 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: And and because I've read so many labels, and I 408 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: look at them, you know, look at the whatever I'm 409 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: going to buy, not just the ingredients, but then the 410 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: breakdown of what's in per hundred grams. I reckon that 411 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: at least half of the things that I look at 412 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: that what is in that what is in the the 413 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: one hundred milligrams you know, per hundred milligrams, what you 414 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: know the different vitamins, minerals, macro nutrients, fat, protein, carbs, sugar. 415 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: I reckon they're inaccurate. I reckon a huge amount of 416 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: them are inaccurate. Do you do you is there Do 417 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: you have any insight into that, like. 418 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: Any inaccurate in what sense what it was? 419 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: As in, I don't like, I don't think what they're 420 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: saying is in there? Is in there? Yeah? 421 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: I think what's an example? 422 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I literally looked at something the other 423 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: day and it was per hundred grams and if you 424 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: added up that just the protein and the carbohydrate, it 425 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: came out to one hundred and twelve grams per hundred grams. 426 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 3: Well then that was it an American product? 427 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: No, No, okay, it was Australian. But I mean literally, 428 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: like when I was looking at it, and I don't 429 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: want to throw anyone under the bus, but I was 430 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: looking at it, I'm like, well, what this label says? 431 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: And it also I was looking at something and it 432 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: also said like I literally looked at this product which 433 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: is a supplement, and it said that it had this 434 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: huge amount of protein in it, and I looked at 435 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: the ingredients and there was not only was there not 436 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: that amount of protein, there was zero protein in there. Zero. 437 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 3: Wow, okay, like zero. 438 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: There was not one ingredient in this product that contained protein. 439 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: There are significant penalties for false and misleading conduct in 440 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: the labeling of products, so you could report that manufacturer 441 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: to the TGA or who I think they're the regulator, 442 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 3: and they would be investigated. So by and large, I've 443 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 3: found products are roughly right. I would say that, but 444 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 3: I'm only looking at food products. I'm not looking at 445 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 3: supplements and so on. Sometimes you see one where it's 446 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 3: clearly impossible, where either it doesn't add up to one 447 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 3: hundred or there's just no way that product contains that 448 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: much protein or fat or carbohydrate or whatever it is 449 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: they're claiming, and it's clearly an error on the label. 450 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: But I'd say I've encountered that maybe one in one hundred, 451 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: which is probably too high. But yeah, I haven't found 452 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 3: it's an extremely regular currents. 453 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, wow, Well that was interesting. I think we'll 454 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: do the other one next time. But that was good. 455 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: Have you got any questions tip? Before we say goodbye 456 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 1: to the great man. I'm actually I'm actually keen to 457 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: go and look at my magnesium and see what's in there, 458 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: because it might be going. I think it's probably going 459 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: to be going in the bin. 460 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: I'm just yeah, replacement. 461 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 3: I did find one, but I don't have it in 462 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 3: front of me. Unfortunately. I got it. I think it 463 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: was at the local calls. There's quite a lot of 464 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: brands of magnesium, but one of them had no added anything. 465 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 3: It was just straight up magnesium. 466 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: While I've got you here and while we're still recording, 467 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: I want to say two things. One is blatant plug 468 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: and one is some info that I keep getting when 469 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: I say keep a couple of times a week I 470 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: get asked this. So the first one is, so the 471 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: mayo that David recommended that it is, the mayo that 472 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: I use is called good fat Mayo. It's called good 473 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: fat Mao. I buy it all worse. It's about twelve 474 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: bucks or something. 475 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 3: Too much, is what it is. It's too damn much. 476 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: It is it is. 477 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of I mean, you can buy the shit 478 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: one for four, but fuck the shit one, shout and 479 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: get the good one for twelve. But I mean, it's 480 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: not unless you're spooning it on with a dessert spoon. 481 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: It lasts a fair one. It's called good fat mayo. 482 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: I have no affiliation with them. I'm not suggesting you 483 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: buy it. But for the people who keep asking me, 484 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: what was the one that he recommends and the one 485 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: that I use, That is the answer to your question. 486 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: Twelve bucks. 487 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: Just on that one, Hang on on that one. I 488 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: will send. I will send Tiffany the recipe. It is 489 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: very easy to make mayo? How very easy? 490 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: How long does that? 491 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: It takes out takes me on a minute to make it. 492 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 3: So you need olive oil and an egg. So it's, well, well. 493 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: We're here, Just give the fucking recipe. 494 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he just did, didn't he. 495 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: I'll I'll give it to you in writing, because you 496 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: know there's some technique. But but yeah, it's it doesn't 497 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: take long as long as you've got a blender. If 498 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 3: you haven't got a blender, it will take you a 499 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 3: long time. 500 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: Wow, I'm pretty sure. Anyway. And the other thing I 501 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: want to say, which is completely unrelated to guests by gillspo, 502 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: but February three, my new mentoring program kicks off. Everybody, 503 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: February three, go to my website Craig Harper dot net 504 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: and have a captain cooker that mate, We appreciate you 505 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: as always. That was I reckon. That was better than 506 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: last week. So well done. Keep trying. 507 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: I'll try try harder. 508 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,959 Speaker 1: Do your best. And also, how fucking good is your 509 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: kid by the way, James. 510 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: James, Yeah, I mean he's got a new cover. 511 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: You're on the slide, he's on the rise. 512 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 3: Tell you what he's thing on Monday. I mean I 513 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: was watching the media keeping an eye off for him, 514 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 3: and I think he ended up well over two hundred 515 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: media appearances on Monday, So that's amazing. 516 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: And if you don't know what you're talking about. Everybody 517 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: interviewed James a week or so ago and it came 518 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: out well, it had to. It was embargoed until Monday yesterday. 519 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: What is today? Monday? Monday six am and our stuff 520 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: goes up at midnight, so we had to put it 521 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: up yesterday. But great chat with him, and yeah, no, 522 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: he is apart from the fact that the work he's 523 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: doing is great and great, I mean it's just a 524 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: great thing that he's doing and highlighting something that needs 525 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: to be highlighted and addressing it. But also, Yeah, he's 526 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: so good. Is such a natural? Yeah, so well done him? 527 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: Will you? 528 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: I know you probably don't say things like this because 529 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: you're an old fashioned dad, but is there any pride 530 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: in there? Do you go? 531 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 3: Fuck? 532 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: He's doing all right? 533 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: Look I know he's got room improvement. You know what 534 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 3: I mean? 535 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: Have you been to the Ron Harper School of Platitudes? 536 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 3: Come away with the two points? That's all the man is. 537 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. All right, Mike, We'll see you next week. 538 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: Alright, I see you later.