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Speaker 1: I get a team.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another in storming the show, Tiffany and Cook, Patrick,

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Speaker 2: James Bonello, Me Fatty Harps from La tro Valley.

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Speaker 1: Hope you haveving a bloody great day.

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the It's going to say the chick

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Speaker 2: in the top left, but you can't say that because

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Speaker 2: it's an indictable offense. So we'll say the young lady

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Speaker 2: who's the top of my screen on the left, tight tip.

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Speaker 3: The thirty percent dude. Isn't that what you call with

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Speaker 3: thirty percent? Dude?

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Speaker 2: Very well, I think you freely admit you're about thirty

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Speaker 2: percent dude.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you mind it either.

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Speaker 3: That's all right, it's all right.

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Speaker 5: It makes me feel tough, brot bit of behavioral leeway

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Speaker 5: in life.

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Speaker 2: Well, two percent more dude than Patrick, So well done,

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Speaker 2: Hi Patrick, stop it?

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Speaker 4: No, then there's officially now too, aren't there? Are we

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Speaker 4: getting political on this one, because that's no, No, we're not.

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Speaker 1: We're not opening that door.

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Speaker 2: No, you're one hundred percent man, despite your T shirt

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Speaker 2: that says zombies eat flesh.

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Speaker 4: Do you like it? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I love it?

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Speaker 4: Bombie face? Can I tell us I'm good? Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I've got a bit of a funny day today. I've

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Speaker 4: got to get my car serviced and I'm chatting to

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Speaker 4: Tiff later tatt and to Tiff now. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: the most exciting thing of my day. But you know, I,

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Speaker 4: did you ever watch the Walking Dead series? The Zombie series? I?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not a zombie. I don't hate it. It's

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Speaker 2: just doesn't do it for me. You know, the Walking

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Speaker 2: Dead type stuff doesn't do it for me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I may have got a bit obsessive. I resisted.

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Speaker 4: I do. I'm one of these people who Game of Thrones.

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Speaker 4: I'm not watching it. I'm not watching that because everybody's

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Speaker 4: watching it. I'm going to resist. And then what I

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Speaker 4: do is three seasons in someone says, go on, just

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Speaker 4: try it, and then I binge it. And so I

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Speaker 4: started binging the Walking Dead and got so into zombies

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Speaker 4: that I was walking through bunnings and I'm thinking, crowbar, No,

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Speaker 4: that's too heavy to swing. What would I use use

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Speaker 4: in the zombie apocalypse? Because a crowbar is great because

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Speaker 4: it's really heavy and solid, but it's impractical. If you're

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Speaker 4: doing the swings, it's got to be samurai swords like

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Speaker 4: two sorts because they're very sharp, they're very strong, and

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Speaker 4: you can move around with them a lot. But so yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's a bit of a worry. And then I go

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Speaker 4: to garden sales, you know when they have like trash

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Speaker 4: and treasure sales and people sell tools and stuff, and

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Speaker 4: they have all the tools laid out same thing. I'm

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Speaker 4: walking around thinking, good for zombies. Nut that to be impractical.

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Speaker 4: So maybe, like, I like where you're going.

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Speaker 2: But I think samurai sword's pretty cumbersome, pretty heavy, by

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Speaker 4: And pretty big one. I used to have one.

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Speaker 2: I have a number of could I say, you did

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Speaker 4: See there you go the samurai saw that I got.

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Speaker 4: So a friend of mine heer here.

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Speaker 1: We go, Tip, Here we go tip.

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Speaker 4: Japan, and was presented with a Samurai saw and she

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Speaker 4: gave me the Samurai sword. I gifted it to a

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Speaker 4: him as a gift. But I did hold the Samurai sword.

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Speaker 4: And maybe it's because you've got painted on arms, but

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Speaker 4: I didn't think it was that heavy.

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Speaker 2: Oh, now we're having a personal attack on Jumbo. Last night,

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Speaker 2: I got picked on in the gym this morning. I'm

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Speaker 2: getting picked your arms as well.

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Speaker 5: For your shoulders was last night. So there's a correlation there.

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Speaker 4: Muscles, they're not practical muscles because the thing is your

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Speaker 4: and swing at those zombies. TIF would be okay because

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Speaker 2: So if there's three blokes in a car park and

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Speaker 2: option A is you, an option as me, Option B

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Speaker 1: I'll go all right, I reckon I might Outlast year.

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Speaker 4: I've won every one of my fights by one hundred

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Speaker 4: meters accelerating. I know this has nothing to do with tech,

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Speaker 4: do you know want to say to my tai chi students,

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Speaker 4: because tai chi, as you know, I practice tai chi

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Speaker 4: moving martial art which is good for muscle memory. But

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Speaker 4: really what it is is designed to use the opponent's

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Speaker 4: energy against them. So if someone threw a punch at you,

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Speaker 4: the idea is that, rather than resisting, you would kind

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Speaker 4: of deflect the punch. Besides, you throw them off balance.

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Speaker 4: But really it's about disarming, getting them away from you,

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Speaker 4: and then running off. You don't fight people, you just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that sounds like the worst martial art ever. Okay,

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Speaker 2: as a relaxation practice, awesome. But rather than try and

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Speaker 2: and run, why not just punch the person in the

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Speaker 2: face who's try want to hurt you, just run in

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Speaker 2: the first place, because maybe they can run faster. We

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Speaker 2: don't recommend violence at all, avoid violence at all costs,

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Speaker 2: but if you need to protect yourself, do so. T

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Speaker 4: Do you know a grown man blubbering like a child

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Speaker 4: probably would make you seem so pathetic they wouldn't hit

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Speaker 4: you anyway. I don't know from experience, No, I really haven't.

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Speaker 4: I know. I think I've only ever been in two fights,

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Speaker 4: and I could kind of embarrassed to say this, But

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Speaker 4: there was a bully at school who was bigger than

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Speaker 4: everybody else, and it was my turn to be bullied.

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Speaker 4: So I punched him in the face and he was

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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, so you bullied the bully.

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Speaker 4: I believe the bully. Yeah, that's a true story.

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Speaker 2: So you just told us about you don't fight, you

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Speaker 2: deflect and you run, and then you just seconds later

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Speaker 4: Somebody discovered side. Now I'm going to get.

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Speaker 2: You've got to get your fucking stories straight. You keep

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Speaker 4: And you're an idiot because, come on, let's face it,

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Speaker 4: fifteen hormones go and all that sort of stuff actually

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Speaker 2: Which hormones? Exactly did you have going? That's my question?

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Speaker 4: No, don't you remember how hard it was being a teenager.

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Speaker 4: It was awful. I was really bad at being a teenager.

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Speaker 2: I'm bad at being a human, doesn't matter what the

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Speaker 2: fucking ac je. I'm still trying to figure sit out.

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Speaker 2: That's why I talk about human behavior always.

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Speaker 4: H I was a nerd all my life. I don't

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Speaker 4: think I've ever not been a nerd, you know, I was.

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Speaker 4: I had my photo in the paper at thirteen on

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Speaker 4: to be part of the Doctor Who fan club.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's and you're still talking about that seventy years later.

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Speaker 2: Else you told everyone my arms are painted on. I

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Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about tech. Well, it's

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Speaker 2: it's not really it's very low. I know, I know

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Speaker 2: that's your job. But TIF have you ever listened to

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Speaker 2: a fiction book?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I listen to shit all the time, but it's always

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Speaker 2: you know, self help of psychology or whatever. Have you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like it. I can't do it, really, No,

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Speaker 5: I have to read them fiction books. I've read nonfiction.

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Speaker 5: I listened to nonfiction, but I can't do fiction.

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Speaker 2: On I've never listened to one in my life, but

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Speaker 2: It's called The Gray Man. It's the most ridiculous. I

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Speaker 2: mean it's it's it's full of violence and revenge and

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Speaker 2: retribution and heroism. But it's so fucking ridiculous. But my

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Speaker 2: And I woke up at five o'clock this morning. I

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Speaker 2: so want to know what happens next. I got out

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Speaker 2: And it's like, I don't know what it is twelve hours.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, eleven hours in I feel like there's going

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Speaker 2: is it that we have? I know that that's been

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Speaker 1: Mate?

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Speaker 4: Science fiction? Fiction has been my bread and butter since

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Speaker 4: I was probably about seven years older. Case I started

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Speaker 4: off with The Magic Far Away Tree right Enid Blyton,

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Speaker 4: And I said, oh really, And they said no, no,

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Speaker 4: sci fi just blew my head apart. I just started

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Speaker 2: What's the best? What's your favorite all time? And I

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Speaker 2: know you're going to say it's too hard, But if

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Speaker 4: Fiction, I'm going to say, too, it's either Dune and

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Speaker 4: I know it's been made into a series with Timothy

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Speaker 4: Chip to my fae Geala May, who yet is like

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Speaker 4: the hottest property like in Hollywood at the moment. Amazing

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Speaker 4: guy because he's doing the Dylan movie at the moment

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Speaker 4: as well, and he sings really well. And the others.

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Speaker 4: The Foundation series by Isaac Asimov, because Foundation is kind

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Speaker 4: and again that's been made by Apple, So both of

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Speaker 4: these are now being adapted screen adaptations, which are both

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Speaker 4: very very high quality screen adaptations. And by coincidence, and

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Speaker 4: then anything by Arthur C. Clark, because Arthur C. Clark

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Speaker 4: literally invented the future. He invented the communication satellite. Asimov

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Speaker 4: came up with the term robotics like everything in science

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Speaker 4: now and science fiction visionaries. It's kind of funny that

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Speaker 4: them to come up with dystopian future sci fi scenarios

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Speaker 4: This is an actual real thing, So, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Patrick. This does not make for good listening. When you

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Speaker 4: because they do sometimes have people who do stupid things

436
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Speaker 4: on court, and we're not on the actually on court

437
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 4: as well, people in the crowd doing doing things. I

438
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 4: can remember one year someone jumped onto the court and

439
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 4: it was like it was a civil disobedience thing that

440
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Speaker 4: they were kind of trying to. I think they raised

441
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Speaker 4: a banner and they feel unfilled the banner and and

442
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 4: jumped onto the court. But it wasn't you know who

443
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Speaker 4: was it was it Martina and the rattleover who was

444
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Speaker 4: the tennis player who got stabbed?

445
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking of her, now I wasn't was

446
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: a young girl Martina Hingis okay, yep.

447
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, I remember that. Yeah. I

448
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: mean how do we get there?

449
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 4: Monitoring and and and the idea is that if someone

450
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Speaker 4: has as a known violent defender and their monitor potentially

451
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Speaker 4: they could be flagged as someone to be watched. You

452
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 4: know how I don't.

453
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 2: I know the gators closed on this, But how bad

454
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Speaker 2: is the security when someone can get out of the stands,

455
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Speaker 2: cross a tennis court at a major event and stab

456
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Speaker 2: one of the best players in the world in front

457
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Speaker 2: of thousands of people. Like you'd want to review security

458
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 2: after that, wouldn't you. Well, the thing is, how do

459
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Speaker 2: you track people? They do have, I mean no, but

460
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: you've got to have security on court so that if

461
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Speaker 2: someone runs out, Well, they do, but they've got well

462
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Speaker 2: yes and no.

463
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Speaker 4: There are security at the entrances to all the courts

464
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Speaker 4: and they have them. You know, they have the officials,

465
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Speaker 4: but they don't have like big burly bloke standing on

466
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Speaker 4: the court ready to run on. I mean I think

467
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Speaker 4: they should.

468
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Speaker 1: They should have.

469
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Speaker 2: They should have because that can happen if that's a

470
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Speaker 2: potential occurrence. Would like, if I can jump over a

471
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Speaker 2: fence with a knife and run out, why wouldn't you

472
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Speaker 2: have Anyway, we're digressing, but.

473
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Speaker 4: You could use that argument sitting at a cafe in

474
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Speaker 4: Hampton Street. If we're sitting there at a cafe, someone

475
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: could just rush up to you. Of course I could

476
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Speaker 4: take my button knife and spread my jam over you.

477
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Speaker 2: You're very argumentative today. It doesn't matter what I suggest,

478
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: you don't agree with anything. Like what is what is

479
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: wrong with you today? It's like you're never like it.

480
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Speaker 2: That's a good idea, Craig, Like, it's so fucking controversial.

481
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Speaker 1: What's wrong with you?

482
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Speaker 4: Have you?

483
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: Are you? Did you not sleep? Are you hungry? Are

484
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: you in a bad mood?

485
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Speaker 4: The fuck?

486
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Speaker 1: Stop being so Stop being so objectionable to everything.

487
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Speaker 4: Stop saying dumb stuff and then I'll agree with you.

488
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Speaker 1: Oh, I rest my case.

489
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Speaker 2: What staying that we should protect our elite athletes at

490
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Speaker 2: the Australian Open is a dumb thing after somebody got stabbed?

491
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Speaker 4: Really happened often Unfortunately, the reality of it is, do

492
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Speaker 4: we want to live in a police state where everything

493
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Speaker 4: we is monitored? Because of the fact that.

494
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Speaker 2: What has that got to do with a person? A

495
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 2: police state? Talk about go to the fucking extreme. I'm saying,

496
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Speaker 2: let's just protect our athletes from being stabbed, and you

497
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Speaker 2: bring it up to, oh, do we want to live

498
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Speaker 2: in a police state? No we don't, but let's not

499
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Speaker 2: let people get stabbed, shall we?

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Speaker 4: How many people get stabbed at the Australian Open? None?

501
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Speaker 4: One No, that wasn't at the Australian Open.

502
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Speaker 1: Yes it was. It wasn't wherever it was, whatever, whatever

503
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Speaker 1: event it was.

504
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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is the majority of people do

505
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Speaker 4: the right thing, and there's always going to be a

506
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Speaker 4: wild card factor where someone is going to do something

507
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 4: bad to somebody, whatever, wherever it happens to be, and unfortunately,

508
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Speaker 4: you know, how do you combat that. I don't know

509
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Speaker 4: that there is a way to do that. But the

510
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Speaker 4: good thing is most people do the right thing at

511
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Speaker 4: the right at the right time. So I think that's

512
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Speaker 4: you know.

513
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Speaker 2: You could say that, you could say that, for like,

514
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: most people are not going to steal your money, but

515
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: we still prepare for that. Most people are not going

516
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 2: to hack your computer, but we still prepare for that.

517
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Speaker 4: Well, that's why when people go to big events like

518
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Speaker 4: the Australian Open, they have their bags checked when they

519
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 4: go in. They make sure that they you know, that

520
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 4: people go through They have metal detectors and stuff like that,

521
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 4: so you know, whether it's a concert or a sporting event,

522
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 4: they do have preventive measures and they do try to

523
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Speaker 4: flag if they think that there might be someone who

524
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Speaker 4: might be problematic, and there is security entrances and security

525
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: on the gates of most of the venues. But you know,

526
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Speaker 4: I kind of don't know whether you're suggesting that there'd

527
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Speaker 4: be you know, ten burly blokes standing there at the

528
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Speaker 4: end of the court ready to run in. I think

529
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Speaker 4: that just seems excessive.

530
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Speaker 2: Well, I think burley blokes or burley women for that matter,

531
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Speaker 2: and I don't.

532
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Speaker 1: I just mean very cap just.

533
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Speaker 2: Put exactly, and by that I mean very capable female ninjas.

534
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Speaker 4: We know as quickly.

535
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you.

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Speaker 2: Patrick, so regarding TikTok, what so is it back on?

537
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Speaker 2: So we're recording this on the twenty fourth Friday. Is

538
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Speaker 2: it back on in the States or what?

539
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 4: For a very short time? Yeah? Yeah, it's back on.

540
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: As soon as Trump gone in it went back on again.

541
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 4: But it was only a very short time, I believe.

542
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Speaker 2: Did you notice also that he came out and he went,

543
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: by the way, we're going to do petrol cars. We're

544
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: gonna yeah, by the way. He didn't say fuck electric cars,

545
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: but he almost did, now you know it.

546
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: Interestingly, in Norway they're now almost all electric. They're going

547
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: to be a country in the world to go all electric,

548
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: which is kind of interesting and technically, I think in

549
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: TikTok it was twelve hours after shutting it down, it

550
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 4: went back on again, so it was only twelve hours.

551
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Speaker 1: Hey, tell me about mirror, mirror on the wall. I'm

552
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: looking at your list. I'm interested in that.

553
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been looking into tech. That was so ces.

554
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 4: The Consumer Electronics Show was in Las Vegas, not that

555
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 4: long ago. It comes up around January every year and

556
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: it's just this massive, massive event where all the new

557
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: consumer products get showcased. And what's becoming more and more

558
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: interesting is the kind of a holistic way of monoching

559
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: our health. So when you use a health tracker, say

560
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 4: it's a smart watch pulling all that information together. Smart scales.

561
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 4: I got some smart scales for Christmas. So when I

562
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 4: step on my scales, it measures my BMI, my body fat,

563
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff, and it tracks my weight

564
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: over the week. And I get onto the scale, I

565
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: cry a little bit or I smile a little bit,

566
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Speaker 4: depending on what day it is.

567
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Speaker 1: But how often do you cry?

568
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:27,360
Speaker 2: Oh?

569
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 4: Not often? No, But you know, if your wait goes up,

570
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,239
Speaker 4: you feel a bit bad, don't you, And then if

571
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: it goes down, you feel a bit woo. I kind

572
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: of need a Homer Simpson. You know the whoo, it's

573
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 4: good and it's like dog let it's down.

574
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: But how much can I If you're a dude, so

575
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: I can ask this, how much do you weigh? Oh?

576
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 4: It varies between about sixty eight kilos and maybe sixty

577
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: nine kilos?

578
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: What what?

579
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 5: What?

580
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: Okay?

581
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: So if you get on your sixty nine a, it's sad.

582
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: The fuck is wrong with you?

583
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 4: But how much to you?

584
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: Oh? Wait, eighty five? Ishy, it depends eighty four to

585
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: eighty six.

586
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're a bigger burlier blake than me, as

587
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: we kind of pointed out earlier.

588
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: Ye dysfunctional, useless, bigger burly bloke allegedly.

589
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: How much to paint it on arms? Way?

590
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: Last night one of the blokes in the gym said

591
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: to me, he said, do they have a lost and

592
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: found here? And I go yep, And he goes, well,

593
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: I might go up and see if I can find

594
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: your shoulders. I'm like, that was pretty hurtful. It was

595
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 2: fucking funny, though, I'm like, that is great, that is great.

596
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: It fucking it hurt me mortally because I don't have

597
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: I have quite big delts like the muscles, but my

598
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: actual clavicular with is not so I don't have really

599
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 2: naturally wide swimmer sholders.

600
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Speaker 1: But it was really hurtful. But it was so fucking

601
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Speaker 1: funny that I just had to laugh.

602
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: So the other day and I can't tell it. Can

603
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 4: I tell the joke? And then TIF cut it out

604
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: if we think it's inappropriate? And I can't even say that.

605
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: Now it's still out of No, you can't. You can't it,

606
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 4: is it? See?

607
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: Is it insulting to any group of people?

608
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: Yes? Actually, yeah, let's not talk about it. I'll tell you.

609
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: Then you definitely can't.

610
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: And everybody's like, please, no, no, hold them the start

611
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: of it and they can look it up themselves. By

612
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: the way, you didn't finish telling us about mirror mirror.

613
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: What the fuck does this mirror do?

614
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: So now you can get smart mirrors. So what they

615
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: do is they bring together the technology like smart scales,

616
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Speaker 4: smart watches and integrate them so that when you are

617
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: looking in the mirror, you can you can to your

618
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 4: heart rate, blood pressure, and so this smart tech, and

619
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 4: this was a conceptual thing, this smart technology, because you

620
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: can get smart mirrors. Now, Oh, hi Fritz, sorry that

621
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 4: mis Fritz just saying hello, you can get smart tech

622
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 4: now that includes smart mirrors so that they look like

623
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Speaker 4: a normal mirror, and then you can bring up a

624
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: screen that overlays as I said, heart rate, blood pressure,

625
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: that sort of stuff. So the idea being is that

626
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: when you incorporate the idea of AI to monitor all

627
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: these what seemingly are unrelated, you know, monitoring devices like

628
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 4: your scales or your smart watch, it then puts it

629
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: all together and you're able to be given that that

630
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: kind of overall holistic health monitoring. So if you're if

631
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: you're you know, if your weights being tracking too high,

632
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: if it picks up your heart rate going up at

633
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: a time when it shouldn't be going up, those are

634
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: the types of things that these smart mirrors will pull

635
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 4: it all together. And it's something that you get on

636
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 4: your scales in the morning, you stand in front of

637
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 4: the mirror and you can see an overview of what

638
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: your health situation.

639
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: Is other than make you cry. Your scales. What the

640
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: ones the smart scales one? What do they tell you?

641
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 2: What's the data that you get, where did you get them?

642
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: And how much did they cost give or take.

643
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,719
Speaker 4: Man I think the scale, I don't think the scale

644
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: was very expensive I'm trying to think it might have

645
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: been maybe ninety bucks, ninety one hundred bucks.

646
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: Do you have to stand on in bare feet to

647
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: get the body? Does it give body composition?

648
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 4: Well, what it does is sometimes it tells me to

649
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: get back on the scales. So it's called UFI Life.

650
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: I'm just bringing up the app on my phone now

651
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: because I'm going to I'm looking at the analytics. But

652
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 4: it gives you b and my body fat. You've got

653
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 4: a goal and a weight. Gosh, the graph goes up

654
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 4: and down a lot. I'm just going to show you that.

655
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Speaker 4: I don't think you can see it. Yeah, yeah, it

656
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: shows you know, yeah, the overall amount. It talks about calories,

657
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: so I guess the idea is just overall tracking. I mean,

658
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 4: I don't know me engage it's mate. I just saw it.

659
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: It was on sale. I thought I need that.

660
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: Can I ask what it tells you your body fat

661
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: percentage is?

662
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: Since it's twenty two point eight, is that bad?

663
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: No?

664
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: That's all right? Is that's all right? Yeah?

665
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: It's I would say you're not I would say you're

666
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: not twenty two point eight.

667
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: I would say that's not accurate.

668
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: I would guess your body fat percentage, and I've measured

669
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 2: probably over ten thousand people's body fat. I would think

670
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: you are between sixteen and nineteen. Okay, so I think

671
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: that's high. But also you've got to remember everyone who's

672
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: listening to this, who goes, I'm going to go get

673
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: some scales that tell me, you know, like without trying

674
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: to get exercise science, dude, But like your wait matters,

675
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: but it matters to a point, like really what is

676
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: most important as body composition. So let's say Patrick and

677
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: I are similar height. I'm a little bit taller, but

678
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: not a lot, but he's now twenty kilos lighter than me.

679
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: But we could have a similar body fat percentage despite

680
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: the fact that I'm twenty kilos heavier.

681
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: And that's not bad.

682
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: That's just a bit more muscle and maybe different bone

683
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: density or whatever. But being lighter is in general terms,

684
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: depending very general terms, it's probably better, but it's not

685
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: necessarily better. So and also, those those ninety dollars scales

686
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: from a like they use a thing called bioelectrical impedance,

687
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: which is when you're standing on it, it's at the

688
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 2: very best, it's kind of a guess. But the good

689
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: thing about those is that using the same essentially the

690
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,479
Speaker 2: same tool and the same protocol, So in that sense

691
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: you're going to get some consistency.

692
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just I'm glad that you brought that up,

693
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: because what it does is it has two sensors for

694
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: each foot, so you've got these little round discs and

695
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: sometimes it asks you to get back on the scale

696
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: make sure your feet are dry. But I'm assuming that

697
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 4: it's electrical conductivity through your body from and that's it

698
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 4: finds out what your body fat in next.

699
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: Is exactly, and how hot hydrated you are or aren'ts

700
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: can affect that because it basically measures how quickly those

701
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: electrical impulses move through your body. When I was fat,

702
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: I used to get on the scales and I'd say

703
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: one at a time.

704
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Please.

705
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: That's an oldie, but a good isn't it. Which that

706
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: used to hurt my feelings as well. Hey, tell us

707
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: about Instagram debuts video editing, Like, I'm an instagrammer, is this?

708
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: Can I use this?

709
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 4: Well? This is because of the TikTok thing, because Instagram

710
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 4: hasn't traditionally had those sorts of tools that are built

711
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: into TikTok. But with all this noise going on particularly

712
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 4: in the US, it's such a massive market and if suddenly,

713
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 4: you know TikTokers can't tick their tok, then wow, well.

714
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: That sounds sexual, but okay, well it just.

715
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 4: Means if they're giving them similar tools, people are going

716
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 4: to jump platforms because don't.

717
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: Come in, I'm ticking my talk, get out, shut the door.

718
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: So it makes sense that they're going to try to

719
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 4: you know, Instagram is trying to put in video editing

720
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 4: tools to match what TikTok already offers, because everyone's going

721
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 4: to try to get the tens of millions of people

722
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 4: who are using it, and if you can offer platform,

723
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: it's going to give them the same way to do it,

724
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 4: if you can download all your data, because the thing

725
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 4: is that the band is still going to go ahead,

726
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: but now they's giving people more time. So they had

727
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: twelve hours without it, and it means you can download

728
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: all your videos and of course people are going to

729
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 4: want to upload them to another platform, and it makes

730
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: perfect sense that if you can do it on Insta

731
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 4: and they give you all the tools to do it,

732
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 4: then it's a smart move by Instagram. When you think

733
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: about it, Are you on Instagram? No, I'm not on

734
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 4: any social media. I mean, look, the business that I

735
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 4: run does do social media management, so I have to

736
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 4: have accounts to be able to manage my client accounts

737
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: and business accounts. But I've got a one of my colleagues, Robert,

738
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: does all of that stuff. I'm bloody hopeless. I kind

739
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 4: of stopped using social media maybe about seven years ago.

740
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 4: I just look. I used to and there's still occasionally

741
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 4: old post. You know, when I was doing my podcast regularly,

742
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: I'd be posting the artwork from the podcast and little

743
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 4: snippets and all that sort of thing. But to be honest,

744
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 4: I found one of the challenges. See Instagram. I like

745
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: to use a lot because I take lots and lots

746
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 4: and lots of photos. T If I send your photos

747
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 4: and stuff, you know, you know, I really enjoyed. I've

748
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: got a good friend in Germany and we send photos

749
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 4: of plants, you know, like scenery and stuff like that,

750
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: and it's really nice. But I found myself uploading photos

751
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 4: and then deciding whether or not the photos were good

752
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 4: enough based on the reaction other people had. And now

753
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: I don't give a shit. I don't care what other

754
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 4: people think of my photos. If I get in I

755
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 4: ooymn out of taking a photo of a sunrise, a landscape,

756
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: a beautiful scene, and that's all that matters to me.

757
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: And I just found that I was becoming too reliant

758
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: dependent on likes and ticks and you know, thumbs ups

759
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: and all that sort of thing, and I think that

760
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: it can really dictate your state of mind, and it's

761
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: and I pulled out of it seven years ago. I

762
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 4: just thought, I don't really care. I don't want to

763
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 4: know what people are doing. I don't want to get

764
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 4: stuck down the rabbit hole. And it's very easy to

765
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 4: do that when you're flicking through and scrolling, you the

766
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 4: whole thumb scroll and you just read the next one

767
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: and the next one and the next one, and you know,

768
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 4: you think, I've just spent forty minutes looking at stupid

769
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 4: video clips of things that really, you know, don't really

770
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 4: mean anything to the great grand scheme of things. Tiff

771
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 4: just sent me something. Now I'm going to jump off.

772
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: He said it asn't pay attention.

773
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 5: And the minute I sent him a photo, he looks

774
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 5: at it as soon as I did it.

775
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 4: It's Luna, it's TIFF's dog, and she's sent it on WhatsApp.

776
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: I use WhatsApp because that's why I can connect directly

777
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 4: with my friends. But Tiff sends me some gorgeous photos

778
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 4: of Luna. You know.

779
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: That's how I just say, don't let the listeners and

780
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: I get in the way. You two, like, do you

781
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: want do you want us to give you the room?

782
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: Do you want us to do you want me to

783
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 2: pull the shades and fuck off?

784
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 4: Because Luna is a cute dog. Come on, Crago, you've

785
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 4: met Luna. She is beautiful.

786
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 2: Well that's not in doubt. It's just that that nobody

787
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: can see that picture except you.

788
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 4: Two, but they can take my word that it's she.

789
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: Is beautiful, like you Patrick, you're beautiful. Tell us about

790
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: three D printed guns.

791
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: This has become a bit of a worry because there's

792
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 4: you know, it's like any tool that's out there, good

793
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 4: and bad. So NASA, for example, are now using three

794
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 4: D printing technology to make really really efficient, cheaply produced

795
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: like transmitting to what do they call them, like trans transmitters.

796
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 4: The I don't have a little connector things that like, ye, totay,

797
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: I don't ask us to Yeah, I'm trying to describe

798
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: something that was kind of s there in the back

799
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 4: of my head. But anyway, NASA is using three D

800
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 4: printing to make little radar dishes. Will say, I'll look

801
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 4: into that in a minute. It'll come back to me.

802
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: But the contrast being that there has been a big

803
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 4: upsurge and what they're calling ghost guns. Okay, so this

804
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 4: is here in Australia we're talking about, so not overseas.

805
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 4: The problem is that we heard about the idea of

806
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 4: three D printing guns a few years ago, but the

807
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 4: technology wasn't quite there yet because the filaments or the

808
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 4: elements that are used to make these three D objects

809
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: so effectively. A three D printer is a printer that layers.

810
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 4: So when you think of a printer that you use

811
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 4: to print pictures, you've got a flat surface. You could

812
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 4: almost say it was two D, a flat surface that

813
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 4: that prints a picture.

814
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: But if you unlike a motorbike.

815
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: As you start layering that, if you imagine that the

816
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 4: ink then goes into layers and layers and higher and

817
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 4: it becomes three D. It has debt like a motorbike.

818
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: Barklp deep, it has depth. Unlike Patrick, stop it just kidding,

819
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: just kidding, We love you, but you did say my

820
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: arms were painted on.

821
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, true, because you remember a few years ago there

822
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 4: was that healthcare executive that got assassinated in New York.

823
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 4: It's believed that the guy who is.

824
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: That was like a month ago.

825
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: Wasn't that long ago? Yeah? Well, it was a three

826
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: D printed gun with a three D printed silencer attached

827
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 4: to it. And so the concern is straighted now, I

828
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 4: guess everywhere is that there are no there's no codes,

829
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: there's no markings on the guns. They can be printed

830
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: on a domestic printer, and that's a big concern, and

831
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 4: so they're calling them ghost guns. There's no way to

832
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 4: track them. You know. One of the big things that

833
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: happened one of the you know, it's terrible when you

834
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 4: get these massacres, and we saw that in Tasmania. What

835
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: was it twenty years ago? Twenty five years ago?

836
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: Way more? Yeah, like thirty Port Arthur was like the eighties,

837
00:41:59,719 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: I think.

838
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 4: But the thing, no, I think it was later in

839
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: that he might have been the early nineties. But you're right,

840
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: actually probably laid eighties, early nineties. But the thing is

841
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: that John Howard is revered almost in the United States

842
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: as the Australian Prime minister who got rid of guns,

843
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: you know, to remember those really vivid scenes of guns

844
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 4: being you know, squashed up and destroyed. And he is

845
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 4: used as not a test case per se, but put

846
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 4: up on a pedestal as somebody he probably needed to

847
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 4: because he was pretty short, but put up on a

848
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: pedestal as somebody who did something pretty amazing by getting

849
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: rid of all those firearms. And now there's a real

850
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 4: concern with law enforcement, with police around the country that

851
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 4: it's now becoming so easy to three D print these

852
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 4: weapons and they look like mirth guns, they look like

853
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 4: you know, two but they're actually really functioning guns. So

854
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 4: that's a real problem at the moment.

855
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: That well, I mean, crooks and criminals are creative, mate'll

856
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: they'll do whatever they can to you know, because getting

857
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: a gun in Australia, I mean you can't really, it's

858
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: very all you can and it's very difficult. But a

859
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: nine ninety six by the way, so you were more right,

860
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: you were more correct than I was.

861
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: What are they?

862
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: They are they made of a because some of the

863
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: ones I've seen a while ago though they were made

864
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 2: of a like a like a polomar, like a plastic

865
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: or something. These ones three D printed that or are

866
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: they metal or are they some other material.

867
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: They're just a tough and plastic. They use a filament,

868
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: so it works. These different methods for three D printing.

869
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 4: Some of them use a fluid and they pass a

870
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 4: laser or a light through it that then hardens and

871
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 4: forms the three D objects. So if you imagine a

872
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: cylinder full of fluid, you pass the light through it,

873
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 4: but the light is directed to in layers effectively to

874
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 4: build up the object, and then when you take it

875
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: out of the fluid, the only the part that's been

876
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 4: touched by the light or the laser is what solidifies.

877
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 4: But generally, I think most people when they think of

878
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 4: three D printing, they just think of a filament. So

879
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 4: you know, you've got a a spool of a plastic.

880
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: But they've been been able to now make these filaments

881
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: a lot more, a lot harder, and which means if

882
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 4: you were manufacturing a fake gum generally now that the

883
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: plastics are toughened plastics, so they're just using and I

884
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 4: think ceramics are kind of being used as well, and

885
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 4: there are metal printers as well. But learn is that

886
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: the cheapest end of the line has now got to

887
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 4: a higher standard because there's two aspects to it is

888
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 4: resolution of the printer. So the early three D printers

889
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 4: were a bit chunky, a bit like playing Minecraft. Am

890
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: I going to ailienate? I say, Minecraft? There is any

891
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: movie coming out about Minecraft? Looks really fun? So Minecraft

892
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 4: is the game where it's all blocky, Yeah, pixelated space invaders,

893
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: lots of blocks that make up the picture rather than lots,

894
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 4: and so the more dots, the higher the resolution. Yeah. Anyway,

895
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: so the three D printing technology has got a higher resolution,

896
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: which means what you're producing is actually is going to

897
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: be better quality and more toughened.

898
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: Just quickly.

899
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Last one, which is not on your list, but it's

900
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: on my list. I wanted to ask you. So maybe

901
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: three or four months ago, you very cleverly introed the

902
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 2: show and then interviewed fake me with pre prepared responses

903
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: where you had I don't know what the correct term is,

904
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 2: but you'd stolen.

905
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: My voice and what do you call it? When you

906
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: do that?

907
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: You'd basically you'd sampled my voice and then you'd I

908
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: used AI and a.

909
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 4: Voice generator to yep.

910
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So basically you can type something in and use

911
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: this use my voice and get me to in inverted

912
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: commas say anything right. Well, as I was listening to

913
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: this book, this thirteen hour book I was telling you

914
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 2: about at the top of the show, I was thinking,

915
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: like the days of voice actors and that are going

916
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: to be maybe a thing of the past eventually. Like

917
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: with these scripts, you could just get this, you know,

918
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: AI generated voice in inverted commas to read entire books flawlessly.

919
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 4: Well, actually, it's a very interesting point you bring up,

920
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 4: because Audible is already doing that with their paid actors.

921
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: They're giving them licensing fees to use their voices so

922
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 4: they can churn out books a lot more quickly as

923
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 4: you can imagine having a real person read an audio

924
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: book and get it produced. You've got to be in

925
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 4: front of the microphone, and as a human being, a

926
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: twenty hour book or an eleven hour book is a

927
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 4: lot to read so in one sitting, and you'd have

928
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 4: to get it produced, whereas if you're using AI. So

929
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 4: Audible announced last year for the first time they were

930
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 4: going to be using some of their voice actors sampled

931
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 4: voices to read audiobooks so they can churn them out quicker.

932
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 4: But they're going to be paying licensing fees and another

933
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: interesting story that I was going to chat about, and

934
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 4: this is a nice little segue the movie The Brutalist

935
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 4: that is coming out at the moment. In fact, I

936
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 4: was going to go to seed it at the weekend.

937
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: That's a movie. It's a true story about a brutalism.

938
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 4: Is that this is an architectural design style and it's

939
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: about a guy fleeing Europe who was a Jewish guy

940
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: who came to the United States became a very famous architect.

941
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 4: And what they did was because I think it's I'm

942
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 4: going to say Hungarian, but the accent is really specific,

943
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: this Jewish Hungarian accent. And because the actors, you know,

944
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: weren't able to quite get it, they've used AI technology

945
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 4: to sample their voices and make their accent sound more authentic.

946
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 4: Now to replace the voice, they've just used this AI

947
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 4: tech to tweak the voice a little bit to make

948
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 4: the actors sound more authentic to the region there. And

949
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: I think it's Hungarian, but wherever it is. So if

950
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 4: you would acting and doing an American voice, and Australians

951
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 4: are really good at doing an American voice, but if

952
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 4: you weren't quite right, if you wanted a Savannah voice

953
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 4: and not a New York voice. Then they would be

954
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 4: able to tweak that so that you would have the

955
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: right accent.

956
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: Did you know they've been doing that one?

957
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: That's fucking fascinating and makes total sense, But I can't remember.

958
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: I'm if this is not right, it's close to right.

959
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: So there's a thing called audio tuning.

960
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 4: If this is not right, it's close to right, it's.

961
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: Either yeah, but I could say.

962
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: Stop it, okay, So I think the term is audio

963
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 2: tuning where singers who were not quite in tune they

964
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 2: use tech to basically make them sing in tune, which

965
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: is why some artists when you hear them live, are

966
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 2: fucking terrible. Oh yes, because their voice has been manipulated

967
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: in production and the record's awesome, but live they sound

968
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: like dogshit.

969
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: Remember Millie Vanilli was, Well, they didn't they didn't even sing.

970
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 4: They mind, they.

971
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: Didn't even sing. They were just a fucking they were

972
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: just musical frauds. Hey, we're going to go tell people

973
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 2: how they can find you and get some of those

974
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: ninety dollars scales.

975
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 4: I don't even please don't quote me on the price

976
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 4: the youthy scales. And I can't exactly remember what they

977
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 4: are websites now is the name of well, it's not

978
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 4: the name of my business. Actually, did I tell you

979
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: that I set up a new company structure. Now I've

980
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 4: now called my business Bigger on the inside media, trading

981
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 4: as Genesis Effects. Not that anyone cares about that, but yeah.

982
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm not sure why you shared that, but okay.

983
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 4: Well because it's kind of cool. You know how long

984
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: it took me to be two days to.

985
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: Try to Why didn't you just call it the tatis.

986
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 4: No, because it has a doctor who reference for people

987
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: who get it, but people who don't get it. Bigger

988
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: on the inside media, it means we're small, but we

989
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 4: do lots of big things. So I thought that there's

990
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 4: representative of what we do because we do we do

991
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 4: lots of stuff and no more. Just go to websites

992
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 4: now dot com.

993
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: You could have just done that.

994
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: You could have just said that, because when you've got

995
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: to explain all that shit, it really loses the value, doesn't.

996
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: It's if you reckon. He's been mean to me today.

997
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm staying out of it. You too, I'm staying out

998
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: of this.

999
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: There's nothing but love. I love you. I love you

1000
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: twelve percent more. We'll say goodbye fair but don't worry everyone.

1001
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: We actually do love each other.

1002
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 2: It's just it's almost like it's almost like brothers punching

1003
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: each other on the arm.

1004
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: No, fuck you, it's a bit of that.

1005
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 4: So you go there