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Speaker 1: The city and with Kate Richie podcast.

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Speaker 2: We haven't had this beautiful man in the studio for

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Speaker 2: quite a while. It's the magnificent doctor here. It has

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Speaker 2: been far too lot this I think. I think I

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Speaker 2: predate Kate.

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Speaker 3: We haven't dated. It's a pre dat.

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Speaker 2: I hope you to move to.

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Speaker 1: What you actually won the backyard cricket game for my

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Speaker 1: team last year? Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure I've wron it for.

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Speaker 1: You the last two Yeah, it's been very impressive.

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Speaker 2: Can you come along to our backyard cricket game again

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Speaker 2: at Kiribilly House.

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Speaker 3: I keep my schedule open until that happens.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely October four, let's lock it in. Can we also

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Speaker 2: talk to something that's very close to your heart and

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Speaker 2: very serious, and this is fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so you can visit the drink Wise website to get

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Speaker 2: more information. But why is this so important to you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's one hundred percent preventable. That's why it's

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Speaker 3: something that people need to know about. So fas D

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Speaker 3: or fee alcohol spectrum disorder is a permanent neurological condition

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Speaker 3: that occurs when the fetal brain is exposed to alcohol.

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Speaker 3: Pride to pregnancy, during pregnancy or breastfeeding.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's important to have conversations about it too,

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Speaker 4: because you can look at any bottle or glass you

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Speaker 4: know of alcohol and there's a Sometimes you can look

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Speaker 4: down into the line on the sticker and there's a

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Speaker 4: pregnant woman with a cross through it. But beyond that,

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's been a lot of conversation. And

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Speaker 4: it feels as though there's been assumption that everyone is

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Speaker 4: well educated on those facts, but it's not always the case.

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Speaker 3: No. And the thing is, the science says there's no

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Speaker 3: proven safe amount, and I think it is something that

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Speaker 3: as a community we need to support pregnant mother. I

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Speaker 3: mean that it's a bit rough. Okay, so what you

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Speaker 3: get to carry the child for nine months, then you

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Speaker 3: have to breastfeed. We'll kind of just sit back and

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Speaker 3: applaud a driver. This is this is difficult, and I

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Speaker 3: think for partners, for family, for everyone else, supporting that

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Speaker 3: they're not drinking during that period of time is just

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Speaker 3: as important as supporting and all the other things that

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Speaker 3: are happening with pregnant.

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Speaker 1: So good idea fits you had an issue, didn't you,

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Speaker 1: because you were working at a bar.

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Speaker 2: Memory This was a moral dilemma, right, because I had

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Speaker 2: a woman on a Friday night and the place was pumping,

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Speaker 2: and a woman and she was visibly pregnant, and she

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Speaker 2: was ordering shops. So I went to my bar manager

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Speaker 2: and I said, I'm not going to serve this woman anymore,

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Speaker 2: and he said, you will serve. If she wants a drink,

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Speaker 2: you will serve her. And I found it really hard.

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Speaker 2: I was about to walk out on the job.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously the statistics are there, so we know

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Speaker 3: it's a permanent condition. We know it impacts the development

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Speaker 3: of the brain, and we know that no alcohol is

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Speaker 3: the safest option for your child in that circumstance. It's

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Speaker 3: a really it's challenging, and whether you're working at a bar,

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Speaker 3: whether you are a friend at a lunch, whether actually

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Speaker 3: having the conversation is a really difficult thing to have.

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Speaker 3: But I think that's where you have to educate yourself.

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Speaker 3: And I think that people that are thinking about being pregnant,

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Speaker 3: people that are around those that are pregnant, need to

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Speaker 3: educate themselves and help guide people towards the good information.

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Speaker 3: That's what you know. That's why drink Wise is making

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Speaker 3: a big push here. To help educate everyone. But that's

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Speaker 3: a challenging one. Fits much.

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Speaker 1: I can I bring something else up, just sort of

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Speaker 1: closer to home. A made of mine has been considering

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Speaker 1: this new drug, which I believe is very popular, called impic.

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Speaker 1: Do you know much about it? Like there's any information

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Speaker 1: I could pass on to the made he might be listening.

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Speaker 3: No, So here's where the evidence is. Funny. I'm wearing

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Speaker 3: a few different hats because I'm also the medical director

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Speaker 3: for Digital Wellness, so we work in this. We're seeing

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Speaker 3: a lot of it. We're involved with the CSIRO and

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Speaker 3: the Total well Being Diet. The one thing that comes

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Speaker 3: out of all of the science when it comes to

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Speaker 3: these weight loss medications is without a solid meal plan, exercise,

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Speaker 3: and long term strategy, they're not actually successful. So the

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Speaker 3: whole idea of what they do is they help prevent

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Speaker 3: you from feeling hungry. But what we know is that

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Speaker 3: there's some you know, there's still specific groups that it

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Speaker 3: works for. And we're talking about the top end of

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Speaker 3: the spectrum here, those that are at a point where

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Speaker 3: other things failed, OBEs, where their BMI is over a

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Speaker 3: certain level, and it is a medication that should not

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Speaker 3: be wandered into without the proper medical guide.

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Speaker 1: Of course I will let him know he had other

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Speaker 1: questions about human growth hormones as well, but we'll wait

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Speaker 1: till next week. He'll be listening again.

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Speaker 3: Whatever are you trying to achieve? I have had this

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Speaker 3: conversation with you. Yes, my garage, which is not far

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Speaker 3: from yours, and he's completely free, is open one hundred.

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Speaker 1: But you'll know exactly what she did to me, and

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Speaker 1: I'll be free.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Roches's garage open.

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Speaker 2: Can we abuse you a little bit more because we

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Speaker 2: have had quite a few callers ring in roch Whenever

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Speaker 2: we have you in, we have medical questions with listeners.

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Speaker 2: Jerry's given us a call from Jordan Springs. Jerry, you

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Speaker 2: got doctor Andrew Rochford's here.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Doc, I do have a question about pregnancy. I

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Speaker 3: know that smoking is bad, but can the same be

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Speaker 3: said for vaping? God, that is an understatement to say

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Speaker 3: that smoking is bad. Yes, smoking is very bad. Vaping's

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Speaker 3: the same, not necessarily specifically the same impacts, but absolutely

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Speaker 3: the impact on the lungs, the health of the mother

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Speaker 3: and also of the unborn child. The impacts and the

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Speaker 3: same with alcohol. No smoking, no vaping is the safest option.

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Speaker 1: Same rule applies.

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Speaker 3: So from my point of view, I'm obviously I'm a

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Speaker 3: national ambassador for drink Wise. For them, they've got a

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Speaker 3: lot of information on their website that just helps guide

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Speaker 3: and answer a lot of these questions, a lot of

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Speaker 3: frequently asked questions, some of the tricky and curly ones.

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Speaker 3: So that's a really great place to start for you

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Speaker 3: or for anyone trying to find out information to do

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Speaker 3: with alcohol and pregnancy and feed all alcohol spectrum disorder,

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Speaker 3: but anything to do with alcohol. I mean, the conversation

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Speaker 3: around alcohol has completely changed, and the generations have changed.

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Speaker 3: And I know that because I've actually been involved from

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Speaker 3: the point where my son I think I joined drink

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Speaker 3: Wise when Archie was he was four or five. Garchie's

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Speaker 3: now seventeen. It was his seventeenth birthday on Monday, and

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Speaker 3: it's really interesting now to be in the position where

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Speaker 3: I'm having the conversation with him about responsible drinking and

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Speaker 3: generational drinking.

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Speaker 2: So he asked you for a drink, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: No, So we've got a deal that if he doesn't

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Speaker 3: drink until he's eighteenth, there's a reward, So it's nothing

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Speaker 3: to do with the reward. It's more that he just

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Speaker 3: wants to prove his old man role. God Okay, but

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Speaker 3: it's really interesting to hear him talking about his friends

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Speaker 3: and his mates and we've all been through it, so

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Speaker 3: all I would say top of list is educate yourself.

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Speaker 3: Get really good information from trusted resources. Drink Wise is

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Speaker 3: a great place to start.

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Speaker 2: It is always a pleasure to have you up. We

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Speaker 2: do love you and for more information on feeder alcohol

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Speaker 2: spectrum disorder, make sure you visit the drink wise website.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you, mate, thanks for coming.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. Y Anda with Kate Ritchie is a Nova podcast.

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