1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: This is the Fits End with Kate Richie podcast. We 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: want to pay tribute to celebrity doctor and I would 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: say friend of the show. I think he joined us 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: maybe five times or so over the years, doctor Michael Moseley, 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: who has passed away unfortunately unfortunately, as you may have 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: read over the weekend, this has been a really really 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: scary time for everyone that follows him, but importantly his 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: family and friends in not knowing the whereabouts as it 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: was before the body was found over the weekend. 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: I just know this just fascinates me, this story that 11 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: a man and remember how glued we were to him him. 12 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: We've had him in here so many times, and it's 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: about you know, he's dedicated his whole life to longevity 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: and staying healthy. He changed your life. I mean, you're 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: on the five two for a while, and yeah, even 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: fasting that minor fasting that people were doing around the world, 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: and how good that was for you. 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 1: He changed so many lives and he brought so much 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: eduction to people, and he continued to develop. I mean 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: I've been sitting there with his book on my desk, 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: which was one of his most recent I think there's 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: still one more to come. Out, which no doubt will 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: become a tribute to Michael Moseley. But four Weeks Still 24 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: Better Sleep is one of the recent books he had, 25 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: But the Five to the Fast eight hundred, they're all 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, gut health was a big one that he 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: looked into as well. But you know, he really did 28 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: change so many, so many lives, and this has been 29 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: a great reminder of just how fragile life actually is. Tommy, 30 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: we were reading and I think Ash mentioned the news. 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: They're now putting it down to heat exhaustion. 32 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, sting, he sat down and lost consciousness is what 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: they're saying this morning after. 34 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: But there was a fall involved. 35 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a fall near that resort where he 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 3: was found, so I think they have CCTV footage of 37 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: him falling. But then he sort of stumbled down to 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 3: the side of that resort and he was so close 39 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: to being found. 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: He was one hundred means so he was one hundred 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: meters from the ocean, which would have cooled his body down. 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: I mean heat exhaustion. I've had that before, and you're delirious, 43 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: you don't know what you're doing. This is the thing. 44 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: And whether he would have jumped into the water and 45 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: knew what was happening or you just don't know about. 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: But the other thing as well we talk about is 47 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: a man who studied so much about you know, staying 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: healthy and longer and stuff like that, he didn't take 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: his phone with him on the walk. And it's little 50 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: things like this. It's just I mean, it was extremely 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: unlucky what happened. But I just for a man who 52 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: you would think Michael Moseley would live to one hundred 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: and twenty. 54 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: You would, naturally because of all the study and all 55 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: the great medical work that he's done as a doctor 56 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: and also in the science field, but also just for 57 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: the average man and an average person that's looking to 58 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: better their life and be a healthy version of who 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: they are. So you would suggest that at some stage 60 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: if there was a fall involved, he has hit his 61 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: head or there's some injury to. 62 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 3: His heat exhaustion. 63 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: He had his umbrella with him which you saw, which 64 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: was heat protection he took for the walk. But the 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: walk was meant to be twenty minutes to half an hour. 66 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, but see if you once you start going, it's 67 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: hard to and he was on a cliff. 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: You could see there was a lot of rocks. 69 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: He got to the fence line and he was one 70 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 2: hundred meters from the water. But that your body starts 71 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 2: to shut down, and once you lose consciousness and you're 72 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: in that sun forty degrees heat. 73 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: It's just unbelievably sad. It's unbelievably tragic To pay tribute, though, 74 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: and we loved obviously having him as a guest on 75 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: the show because he was so informative and why is 76 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: the entire time we thought we'd play a little bit 77 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: of our last chat with Michael Mosley, doctor Michael Moseley, 78 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: and he's talking about the experiments that he did, and 79 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: this was just part of the great human he was. 80 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: You don't just study this, you actually do it yourself, doc, 81 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: don't you You put on ten to fifteen kire loos and 82 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: then you try to take it off with this diet. 83 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 4: I did the original reason why I invented five two 84 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 4: dits because I discovered seven years ago that I was 85 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: a type two diabetic, yes right, and my dad had 86 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: died complications of it. So that's when I'd never heard 87 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: of intimate fasting. And I was a doctor who had obviously, 88 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: like every other doctor, had learned nothing about nutrition at 89 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: medical school. 90 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: So I went off and I. 91 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 4: Found out about it and invented five to diet. I 92 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: lost ten kilos, bloodshains went back to normals perfect stayed there. 93 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: But to write the new book, which is The Fast 94 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: eight hundred, I'm advocating at the beginning that you do 95 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 4: a rapid weight loss diet. At the beginning, that's eight 96 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: hundred calories for up to eight weeks. Now, in the 97 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: clinical studies they found average weight loss of fourteen kilos 98 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: doing that approach. Okay, so this is for people who 99 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: have quite a lot of weight to shift, or who 100 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: have type two diabetes, or who have pre diabetes, or 101 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 4: perhaps have problems there you know, high cholesterol scores. 102 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: Yes, so they have a. 103 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: Reason why they want to shift off quite a lot 104 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 4: of weight pretty fast. And again what surprising is the 105 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 4: studies show the faster you lose it, the more likely 106 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: you are to keep it off long term. And that's 107 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: kind of surprising. We're always told slow and steady, yes, 108 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: and yet there have been a series of really big studies. 109 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 4: There was one in the UK recently who did rapid 110 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 4: weight loss eight hundred carries lost and kept off ten 111 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: kilos over a year. Whereas those doing the stow and 112 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 4: stead he lost one kilo. I love life hacks, you know, 113 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: that's kind of what I am. Absolutely love exploring the 114 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 4: science a bit. That's why I loved I really really 115 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: enjoyed researching writing Clever Guts because it is just your 116 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: gut is so interesting, and the things that go on 117 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: down there. It really is an undiscovered planet filled with 118 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 4: the world's weirdest creatures. 119 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful he said, isn't it. And it brings 120 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: it brang a lot of medical knowledge and understanding of 121 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: the human body to our ears and to our understanding. 122 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: So we celebrate Michael Mosley and his tragic passing, and 123 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: we think of his friends and of course his family 124 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: at this time. 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