WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 5 June

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying New Center. This is Paul Murray Live

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<v Speaker 1>a Wednesday at the start of winter one for the

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<v Speaker 1>hard course tonight. Thank you very much for watching wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you're happy to be. Thank you so much for Sharry.

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<v Speaker 1>See her again same time tomorrow night. Now, big news

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<v Speaker 1>today in the war on censoring the Internet. As we

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<v Speaker 1>know the stabbing that took place in western Sydney a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of months ago. We all know what the result

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<v Speaker 1>of that was. We know the national conversation that we

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<v Speaker 1>had to have about whether you could or could not

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<v Speaker 1>look at the crime, the alleged stabbing. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say that because someone's before the courts and we were

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<v Speaker 1>told of the time for our own good, it must

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<v Speaker 1>be censored from the Internet, particularly from the platform formerly

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<v Speaker 1>known as Twitter.

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<v Speaker 2>It is vital that we don't use social media as

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<v Speaker 2>a tool for division and fear, but instead as an

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<v Speaker 2>instrument of solidarity and social cohesion. Online spaces should be

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<v Speaker 2>safe for everyone, no matter a person's culture, faith or background.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this conversation should have also been accompanied by a

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<v Speaker 1>national chat about radicalization. In the space of a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks, ten teenagers were arrested by police on the

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<v Speaker 1>assumption that they had been radicalized by barsadized version of Islam.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, that would be too difficult a thing for

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<v Speaker 1>this government to have to deal with. So instead it

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<v Speaker 1>was a pile on Elon Musk because he thought that

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<v Speaker 1>Australia's rules should only extend as far as Australia.

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<v Speaker 3>We're seeing mego maniacs like Elon Musk going to court

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<v Speaker 3>to fight for the right to show terrorist content, alleged

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<v Speaker 3>terrorist content on his platform.

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<v Speaker 4>Its just shaws his arrogance.

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<v Speaker 5>This is an egotist, totally out of touch. He clearly

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<v Speaker 5>sees this as a vanity project for himself.

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<v Speaker 6>Elo must has no social conscience or conscience whatsoever. Quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 6>the biker should be jailed the power that that man

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<v Speaker 6>has because that platform that he's on, it's got to stop.

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<v Speaker 6>That bloke has no conscience. He is an absolute freaking disgrace.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's nothing else to say about Alel Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course it all went off to court. They

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<v Speaker 1>got their early win, but then X started to fight back.

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<v Speaker 1>They won an injunction and now today we learn that

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<v Speaker 1>the e Safety Karen is no longer going to be

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<v Speaker 1>pursuing the matter. The matter is now done. X wins,

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<v Speaker 1>the video stays, and the e safety Karen says this

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<v Speaker 1>is the reason why her fight must end for now.

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<v Speaker 2>After considering multiple litigations, the prudent use of public funds,

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<v Speaker 2>and the faylanks of lawyers that ex Corp Has lined

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<v Speaker 2>up in the Federal court, we thought it made the

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<v Speaker 2>most sense to have an independent test and of a

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<v Speaker 2>merits review through the aat of why we issued the

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<v Speaker 2>class one notice don't you love this?

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<v Speaker 1>Or the prudent use of taxpayer funds? This is an

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<v Speaker 1>instrument of the same government that spends six hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars on a speech writer. This is the same government

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<v Speaker 1>that spends forty million dollars on advertising of tax changes.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the same government that will buy not one,

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<v Speaker 1>but two brand new private planes for the Prime Minister. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>ordered under the previous government, but not canceled by this government,

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<v Speaker 1>had more than four hundred million dollars. Perhaps the ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>reality is that they knew the case wouldn't stand because

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<v Speaker 1>while the powers exist in Australia, you cannot expect the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world have to take this thing down now.

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<v Speaker 1>I very much believe that videos celebrating crime should be

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<v Speaker 1>taken down as soon as possible. But the heavy handed

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<v Speaker 1>approach here had the attempt of the government to change

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<v Speaker 1>the subject from the real one, which was the radicalization

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<v Speaker 1>of teens serves as a message of priorities, and the

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<v Speaker 1>priority wasn't the video. The priority was the other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on the internet that sends teenagers kids born here nuts

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<v Speaker 1>in the name of a bastardized version of their religion.

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<v Speaker 1>Now today we had to put up with the nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>spectacle that apparently the Labor Party is drawing a line

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<v Speaker 1>about the behavior of the Greens. Now today both sides

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<v Speaker 1>of major party politics, Well, they turned on the Greens

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<v Speaker 1>because in part they had said that they had had

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<v Speaker 1>enough of what the Greens have been saying when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to Gaza, the sort of stuff that ends up

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<v Speaker 1>giving apparent moral justification to lunatics who have been vandalizing

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<v Speaker 1>the officers of Australian politicians. Now you do notice that

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<v Speaker 1>none of these things were being said automatically in our parliament,

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<v Speaker 1>when it wasn't the MP's officers that were being attacked,

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<v Speaker 1>when it was just members of the public and a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of back and forth. Well, you know, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>part of free speech right well now that it's hit home,

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<v Speaker 1>particular for Labour Party MPs. We got the scenario today

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<v Speaker 1>where both sides of Parliament agreed the Greens are terrible

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<v Speaker 1>in this area and they use the lowest of issues

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<v Speaker 1>to make political points in this country. First, Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 7>We stand as one in this chamber, or we should

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<v Speaker 7>stand as one to make sure that we condemned the

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<v Speaker 7>unacceptable levels of antisemitism that we see playing out on

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<v Speaker 7>our streets.

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<v Speaker 1>It has no place and we.

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<v Speaker 7>Will take everything, every action we need as a chamber

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<v Speaker 7>to make sure that we condemn those acts of antisemitism

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<v Speaker 7>in our country.

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<v Speaker 1>And the Green's.

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<v Speaker 7>Political party today is properly and rightly condemned.

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<v Speaker 1>Albow in response.

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<v Speaker 5>It is unacceptable that misinformation has been consciously and deliberately

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<v Speaker 5>spread by some Green senators and Mpece have engaged in

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<v Speaker 5>this damn'sts outside offices and online.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course the Green's got to respond and

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<v Speaker 1>point the finger at anyone but themselves about the behavior

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<v Speaker 1>that has got out of control in the country since October.

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<v Speaker 3>I will not be lectured to about peace and nonviolence

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<v Speaker 3>by people who back the invasion of Gazo.

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<v Speaker 8>Children are dying children are dying because the Israeliami has

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<v Speaker 8>engineered a famine and instead.

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<v Speaker 3>Of talking about the victims of Burron, Minister wants to

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<v Speaker 3>make it about himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, interestingly, the Green's leader is not alone in his worldview.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that about some of the things that have

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<v Speaker 1>been happening on the streets. But tonight there's a story

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<v Speaker 1>which is broken on the front page of the Australian

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper that apparently there are members of the Defense Force,

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<v Speaker 1>people who are in the Australian Defense Force who are

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<v Speaker 1>signing anti Israel petitions. We're talking about people from the

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<v Speaker 1>Human Rights Commission, we are talking about the people who

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly understand the limits of military power. Now, again, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>your view on whether the state of Israel and the

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<v Speaker 1>government of Israel has gone too far, the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>people inside the Australian Defense Force are trying to side

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<v Speaker 1>not but the people of Palestine. But of course the

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<v Speaker 1>military force of Hamas is a disgrace. But of course

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<v Speaker 1>I don't buy any of this stuff from the Labour Party.

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<v Speaker 1>That are the Greens. They're terrible, aren't they awful? Aren't

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<v Speaker 1>they terrible? Because of course, mathematically the Labour Party basically

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't exist in the Federal Parliament without the Greens. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>they won seven seats on their own outright, seventy of

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<v Speaker 1>their seats went to preferences, of which the Greens preferences

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<v Speaker 1>were the ones that got them over the line. Seventy

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<v Speaker 1>of the seventy seven members of the Federal Parliament that

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<v Speaker 1>are there on the behalf of the Labour Party are

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<v Speaker 1>also there thanks to the preference of the Greens. So

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<v Speaker 1>I will truly believe that the Prime Minister has had

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<v Speaker 1>enough of the behavior of the Greens when he decides

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<v Speaker 1>to put them last. But of course he won't do

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<v Speaker 1>that because there's this cozy little arrangement where the Greens

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<v Speaker 1>get to protest yet support the actions of the Labor Party.

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<v Speaker 1>The Labor Party gets to have a crack at the

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<v Speaker 1>Greens but takes their preferences in the Senate. They can't

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<v Speaker 1>get anything done without the Greens, and potentially, in a

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<v Speaker 1>minority parliament, they would not be able to even form

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<v Speaker 1>a government without them. Now, we've had conversations over the

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<v Speaker 1>years about which political parties are deserving of going last.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not see how anyone could suggest that the

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<v Speaker 1>Greens should be anything but last for every major political party.

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<v Speaker 1>Now there are people inside the NP in certain states

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<v Speaker 1>who think that it's clever to send preferences to the

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<v Speaker 1>Greens because it's a way of denying the Labor Party seats.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not acceptable. The Greens are the worst possible

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<v Speaker 1>choice for Australian politics, no matter what they peddle and

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<v Speaker 1>what polls tell you that they are the voice of

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<v Speaker 1>younger generations for obvious reasons. If you are serious about

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<v Speaker 1>the threat that the Greens pose, then you should be

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<v Speaker 1>willing to put some of your own skin in the game. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even seventy seats worth of it. But at some

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<v Speaker 1>point the Labor Party should preference the Liberal Party, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Liberal Party should preference the Labor Party before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to options like the Greens. And again another example

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<v Speaker 1>about the double speak that comes out of the O

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<v Speaker 1>SOO sanctumonious Greens. Now they constantly tell us that we

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<v Speaker 1>need more housing, and we do need more housing in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. Best money in building hundreds of thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>good quality homes to be sold and rented at prices

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<v Speaker 1>people can actually afford.

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<v Speaker 3>In a wealthy country like ours. Everyone should have a

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<v Speaker 3>roof over their head and.

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<v Speaker 8>One of the key things that governments could do to

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<v Speaker 8>bring down rantsom make sure housing is.

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<v Speaker 3>More affordable is built more public housing.

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<v Speaker 8>Everyone has the right to.

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<v Speaker 3>Have a roof over their head, especially a wealthy country

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<v Speaker 3>like Australia, and so until we build more, the problems

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<v Speaker 3>is going to get worse than work worse.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess which MP from which political party is opposing

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<v Speaker 1>the building of more units in their electorate. Well, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Greens. The Greens who say we need more housing.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's in their backyard and they don't like

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<v Speaker 1>how big it's going to be, then it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>come out and oppose it. Talk about having your cake

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<v Speaker 1>and eating it too, but it'll obviously have to be

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<v Speaker 1>vegan and gluten free. Now, the latest economic numbers you've

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<v Speaker 1>heard by now that if Australia was getting its pulse checked,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd have to double check that we had one. Why

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<v Speaker 1>because according to the latest GDP, we are a heartbeat

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<v Speaker 1>away from a recession. Have a look at economic growth

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<v Speaker 1>since this government came to power, almost one percent, then

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly became point one percent, point eight, became point six

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<v Speaker 1>point four, point two point three and now just zero

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<v Speaker 1>point one percent. Technically growing. But it's like your car

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<v Speaker 1>idling at the lights, and if it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>out of tune, you take your foot off the break

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<v Speaker 1>and it starts to ever so slightly hinge forward. That

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<v Speaker 1>is the problem that we have at the moment. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the per capita recession, the one that you

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<v Speaker 1>and I are living, is one that has now gone

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<v Speaker 1>on for five quarters in a row. This has gone

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<v Speaker 1>on for the best part of a year and a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we are in a serious situation at the moment

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<v Speaker 1>where the Australian people go backwards. The government idols idols.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course the Treasurer says, this is my plan.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all working, trust me.

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<v Speaker 9>These national accounts, so we got the budget settings right.

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<v Speaker 9>They justify our approach to fighting inflation and repairing the

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<v Speaker 9>budget without smashing the economy when growth was already sought

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<v Speaker 9>and the people were already under pressure. They completely vindicate

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<v Speaker 9>our strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous. This guy will think that every single statistic just

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<v Speaker 1>backs in his worldview. The country is not even sputtering

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<v Speaker 1>zero point one percent. Every three months, the numbers go

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<v Speaker 1>down and down and down and down and down. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, in the next three months if we start

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<v Speaker 1>to go backwards, you have to wait another three months

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<v Speaker 1>after that, and it would seem unlikely that we get

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<v Speaker 1>into some technical recession. But if the majority of Australians

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<v Speaker 1>in there are in a per capita i e. Normal people,

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<v Speaker 1>a per capita recession, you are already living one. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course you can't possibly admit that in the world

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<v Speaker 1>of Canberra, because that would say you'd have to accept

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<v Speaker 1>some level of responsibility. Meantime, the Reserve Bank, now remember

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<v Speaker 1>this government has already tried to rig the process. How

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<v Speaker 1>many times they meet, they will eventually try to rid

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<v Speaker 1>the process about who is going to be deciding whether

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<v Speaker 1>interest rates go up or not. But in the meantime,

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle Bullock, who is of course the Preserved Bank governor,

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<v Speaker 1>she has said today that she will not hesitate to

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<v Speaker 1>raise interest rates if she believes that inflation, which is

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<v Speaker 1>currently nowhere near between two and three percent instead is

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<v Speaker 1>between three and four percent, that if that continues, despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the joint is going backwards in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of per capita and only just rolling forward on the

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<v Speaker 1>official statistics, she would still increase interest rates. I look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to talking about this with Stephen Conroy and with

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<v Speaker 1>Rob and Bishop in a couple of moments time in

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<v Speaker 1>a ding dong here on this Wednesday night. Megan Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>will join us as well from the United States. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, the Prime Minister and Peter Dutton do

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<v Speaker 1>not see iday on how we should keep the lights on.

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<v Speaker 1>The Prime Minister believes that we should spend tens of

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<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars the cso of course, saying it's anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>between halfer and one trillion dollars to actually move from

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<v Speaker 1>the grid that used to work to the one that

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<v Speaker 1>fingers crossed might work. For his position, Peter Dutton says, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>while it's expensive, Yes, while it takes a little time

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<v Speaker 1>to get going, nuclear energy is the best way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>And put simply, the best idea is to use existing

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<v Speaker 1>coal fire power sites which are currently being planned to

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<v Speaker 1>be turned not into energy generators but in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>energy storage things like batteries, But that would not be

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<v Speaker 1>the case. Instead that power plants would go there. And

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<v Speaker 1>Albow well, he believes he's under a winner here. He thinks,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that now six out of ten Australians

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<v Speaker 1>support it as a way of getting our power and

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<v Speaker 1>getting emissions down, that he's able to scare everyone that

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<v Speaker 1>you're living in the Simpsons and your kids will turn green.

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<v Speaker 1>Not voting, but literally.

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<v Speaker 5>Nuclear power is the most expensive form of new energy

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<v Speaker 5>that certainly doesn't help with climate chain.

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<v Speaker 1>Heart of the scare, he decided to take this to

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet today and believe it or not, had actually

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<v Speaker 1>got a misinformation strike among other things from tit it Today.

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister put this tweet up saying what do these

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful parts of Australia have in common? They're at risk

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<v Speaker 1>of a nuclear reactor in their backyard under Peter Dutton.

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<v Speaker 1>Australians have waited six hundred and seventy three days for

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<v Speaker 1>details on Peter Dutton's nuclear plan. He still won't say

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<v Speaker 1>which cities, which towns, and he decided to put a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of photos out there to help scare people

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<v Speaker 1>about what may or may not be happening. Places like Newcastle, Anglesea,

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<v Speaker 1>the w Sundays, the Barossa Valley, Bridey Island, Gippsland and

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<v Speaker 1>the Hunter Valley gets a second little shout out from

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister trying to scare people, but well under

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<v Speaker 1>the Daily Mail because they had a look at some

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who replied to the Prime Minister's tweet

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<v Speaker 1>before it got a misinformation strike from x Here's some

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<v Speaker 1>of the responses as people have turned around and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that renewables are covering every blade of grass

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<v Speaker 1>in some parts of Australia. Someone says, funny, I prefer

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<v Speaker 1>a nuclear reactor over thousands of kilometers of your government

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<v Speaker 1>green lighting areas to be turned into solar Another one.

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<v Speaker 1>What do these beautiful places have in common? They're all

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<v Speaker 1>at risk of being cleared for solar panels and wind,

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<v Speaker 1>but filling up thousands of acres of solar panel farms

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<v Speaker 1>is perfectly okay. What a hypocrite you are, Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>car Waite finnuculear. Have you've seen the scars of wind

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<v Speaker 1>and solar? Another one? What's so beautiful about these things?

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<v Speaker 1>And what do they have in common? There are at

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<v Speaker 1>risk of solar panels and wind turbines in their backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Under Alba good point, you see lefties belief that they

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<v Speaker 1>can have it both ways, that they can save the

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<v Speaker 1>planet in their parts of Australia by ruining the literal

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<v Speaker 1>land in regional Australia, and because regional Australia generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't vote for the current government. Well, bugger you again.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the central problems that many people

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<v Speaker 1>have had in a long time about the transition to

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<v Speaker 1>renewable energy is that when we start to see places

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<v Speaker 1>in the cities having to bear the same scars that

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<v Speaker 1>they do in regional areas, then surprise, surprise, the same

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<v Speaker 1>issues where locals don't want it in their parts of

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<v Speaker 1>Australia would be echoed by those who push it in

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<v Speaker 1>city areas. Where is the suggestion that the local dog

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<v Speaker 1>park in Marrickville is about to be covered in solar panels.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is the suggestion that in the teal seats there's

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<v Speaker 1>any plans for a wind farm anytime soon? Oh know

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<v Speaker 1>that all goes to the bush because firstly who lives

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<v Speaker 1>there and secondly they don't vote for you. So the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister and the collective brain that says renewables only

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<v Speaker 1>effectively says bug you. Now I have to ask the question,

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<v Speaker 1>how have we come to this as a great, modern,

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful country. We've got to the state where discipline in

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<v Speaker 1>our schools is now so widely out of control that

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<v Speaker 1>they are teachers among us who are now starting to

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<v Speaker 1>think about the introduction of cameras to the classroom. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me explain. Of course, schools, according to the OECD, have

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<v Speaker 1>become major battlegrounds. I say battlegrounds because disruptive schools puts

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<v Speaker 1>us in. Some of the most disruptive schools in the

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<v Speaker 1>world according to the OECD. The qoreyam Mar says there's

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<v Speaker 1>a six million dollar sturge in assaults on teachers and

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<v Speaker 1>school staff. They go on to say that in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two to twenty three financial year, there were six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety eight classroom assaults that were lodged in

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<v Speaker 1>the state of Queensland and there were assault claims which

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<v Speaker 1>resulted in the best part of about five million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>being paid. The MP shadow Education spokesperson said the data

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<v Speaker 1>showed the state government is losing control of classrooms. So now,

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<v Speaker 1>what's a suggestion from some teachers in Queensland Body cameras

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<v Speaker 1>the same stuff the police wear, so they're able to

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<v Speaker 1>show who the aggressor is. And he said she said,

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<v Speaker 1>or he said he said, or she said she said,

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<v Speaker 1>or have they said he said, or have they said that?

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<v Speaker 1>You get my point? Altercation when a student assaults a teacher. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we have spent billions of dollars trying to turn around

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<v Speaker 1>what have been very bad education results in our schools

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<v Speaker 1>for longer than a decade. The one thing that has

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<v Speaker 1>continued to get worse no matter how much money is

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<v Speaker 1>spent is classroom discipline. Yet where is the plan to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with it? Where is the plan to give teachers

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<v Speaker 1>greater rights to intervene in poorly behaved students instead in

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<v Speaker 1>places like Queensland, now indigenous students and neurodiverse students will

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<v Speaker 1>be able to appeal their suspensions if they are involved

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<v Speaker 1>in things like assaults on teachers. How have we got

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<v Speaker 1>to a place where teachers would like the same equipment

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<v Speaker 1>that the police use. We're having a look at Fortitude

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<v Speaker 1>Valley every Friday and Saturday night meantime. As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC is morally better than everyone else in the

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<v Speaker 1>Australian media. Just pick any one of their number of

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<v Speaker 1>shows who try to poke at the media that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't work for as of course, being either intellectually or

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<v Speaker 1>definitely morally inferior to the great ABC. Well, today we

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<v Speaker 1>got an incredible piece of information about just how much

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<v Speaker 1>problems there are at the ABC and not from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, not from ten years ago, but in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>in the past two years. How's this? The ABC is

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<v Speaker 1>failing to meet its own standards when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>bullying and sexual harassment. The managing director has said that

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<v Speaker 1>an internal survey found thirteen percent of respondents to the

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<v Speaker 1>National Broadcaster's News division, so this is only the News

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<v Speaker 1>division said that they had experienced sexual harassment sexual harassment

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<v Speaker 1>of the ABC in the past two years. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 1>no organization in the country does not have this problem,

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<v Speaker 1>but the ABC takes great joy in pointing out the

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<v Speaker 1>moral failings of every other organization. What about and look

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<v Speaker 1>at their own backyard. And this is on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC of course having to back pay to the

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<v Speaker 1>tune of what thirty million dollars. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>because they underpaid their staff. But what sort of work

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<v Speaker 1>environment when this force is the public service. Now they

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<v Speaker 1>may think there's something magically different about broadcasting, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same rules as the tax office. Back to the survey,

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<v Speaker 1>one quarter of respondents said they had experienced bullying at

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC, with the most common types reported as intimidation,

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<v Speaker 1>but littling and humiliating comments. Now I'm not sure exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what's being said, and I don't know if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole series of snowflake behavior, but supposedly they're better than

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else. The seven hundred and forty five employees, jeez,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a few who took the survey, So that's not everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>In the news division, ninety seven people reported as having

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<v Speaker 1>experienced sexual harassment. Sixty five percent of the respondents were women. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there couldn't be a more friendly, friendly workplace to the

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<v Speaker 1>current attitudes than supposedly public broadcasting. But twenty nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the staff in the division turned around and completed

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<v Speaker 1>the survey. So if that's the numbers of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that were actually willing to fill out the forms, imagine

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<v Speaker 1>what the reality might be, including of the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are actually the victims. For his part, the boss of

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC turns around and says, if anyone doesn't understand

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<v Speaker 1>or accept this, the ABC is not the working environment

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<v Speaker 1>for them. There will be consequences for those staff who

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<v Speaker 1>are found to have behave in an unacceptable manner, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what their role is of the ABC. Geez, you,

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon that'll be the case, because if you are

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<v Speaker 1>a blessed member of the ABC, they'll pay your private

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<v Speaker 1>legal fees when you say tofamatory things on the internet,

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<v Speaker 1>when you clearly breach editorial standards, when you're free wheeling

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<v Speaker 1>at writers festivals, etc. They'll find ways to say, Look,

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<v Speaker 1>we've canceled you, But she's amazing, isn't she wonderful? Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>she incredible? Clearly the organization is one that, like many

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<v Speaker 1>media organizations in the past, not pretending that this is

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<v Speaker 1>exclusively an ABC problem. There is a hierarchy, and clearly

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<v Speaker 1>there is a hierarchy of people who are known and

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<v Speaker 1>unknown to us as the viewers, listeners or readers of

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC, who think they can get away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because they keep doing it now, I, like anyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>understand that what was okay ten years ago is not

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<v Speaker 1>OKA five years ago, is not OKA two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and definitely is not okay today watch this space because

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<v Speaker 1>the ABC, rather than looking at itself, I would suggest,

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<v Speaker 1>will now start an investigations unit into every other person

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<v Speaker 1>who's ever criticized the ABC as opposed to the ABC itself,

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<v Speaker 1>where clearly they've got just the same problems as everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's important to follow up on stories, and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really do that enough in the media, but certainly

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to do it when it comes to one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that many of us felt straight after

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<v Speaker 1>the stabbings in Bondi a few months ago. While people

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to turn it into a gendered example of violence,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality was that it was an example about how

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<v Speaker 1>the mental health system has completely collapsed, where people fall

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<v Speaker 1>through the cracks who should be in institutions when they

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<v Speaker 1>don't take their meds and they don't see anyone, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the worst of possible things can take place.

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<v Speaker 10>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Many people like myself, straight after what happened in Bondi

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<v Speaker 1>focused on this as a need for something to be done.

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<v Speaker 11>If they improve and they get a bit better their

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<v Speaker 11>discharge from the vital services that they need, which are

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<v Speaker 11>in incredibly short supply through state of governments since the

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<v Speaker 11>closure of the Metal hospitals. They haven't done their job

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<v Speaker 11>in providing a safe and environment for the states that

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<v Speaker 11>they operate in the community metal health system is very

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<v Speaker 11>modest and is overwhelmed with demand.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's proving himself to be the best premiere in

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<v Speaker 1>the country. Chris Mins, Labour's premier in New South Wales. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he along with his mental Health Minister Rose Jackson, who

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<v Speaker 1>I know is absolutely committed to following through not just

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<v Speaker 1>saying things of press conferences, actually announce some more money

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<v Speaker 1>for exactly this type of thing. They know it's not

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the road, but it is a very

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<v Speaker 1>big step, and I wanted to give him a yay

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<v Speaker 1>for the day for actually following through on what he

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<v Speaker 1>said at press conferences as opposed to his colleague in Cambra.

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<v Speaker 12>There's a linkage of course between homelessness, housing, the New

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<v Speaker 12>South Wales health system and their interactions with New South

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<v Speaker 12>Wales Police. And if we can make an early investment

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<v Speaker 12>with new initiatives that are actually working in the community,

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<v Speaker 12>then not only can we save money when it comes

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<v Speaker 12>to other parts of spending for the New South Wales government,

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<v Speaker 12>we can make a difference with someone's wife who's going

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<v Speaker 12>through a terrible experience and maybe suffering from crippling mental

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<v Speaker 12>health diagnoses.

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<v Speaker 1>In the States, Hunter Biden remains in court multiple charges

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<v Speaker 1>all in and around a gun that he should have

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<v Speaker 1>admitted that he was not supposed to have. Why because

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<v Speaker 1>of a series of mental health issues that came as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of drug abuse. But you may remember that

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<v Speaker 1>at the height of the twenty twenty election, we were

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<v Speaker 1>not allowed, allegedly to tell you about the existence of

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<v Speaker 1>a laptop, one that apparently had been left by Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Biden that explained not just his drug use, but also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the big guy, all the payments and the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of it. He was referred at the time by

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<v Speaker 1>intelligence officials as Russian disinformation. Well guess what was produced

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<v Speaker 1>today literally as evidence in the case against Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 1>in court. Yep, the laptop that apparently never existed.

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<v Speaker 13>Opening Stevens today in the trial of President Biden's son

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<v Speaker 13>Hunter on federal gun charges. Prosecution telling jurors he lied

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<v Speaker 13>about his drug use on a government background check to

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<v Speaker 13>buy a gun, and they introduced evidence from his laptop.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean it was always true? Well done a Miranda

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<v Speaker 1>Devine and the New York Post who never never gave

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<v Speaker 1>up on the reality of that laptop. Funnily enough, though,

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the other evidence it's on the laptop not to be

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<v Speaker 1>used for anything, just this one thing in relation to

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the gun charge. As for the fight between Hunter's father

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<v Speaker 1>and Donald Trump for the presidency coming up in November,

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<v Speaker 1>the next big event is going to be the debate,

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<v Speaker 1>which will take place towards the end of this month.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be on CNN for coverage here in the lead

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<v Speaker 1>up and post here on Sky News. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>show you the latest polls though. These are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened after the court case. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>not many that have happened after the court case, So

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<v Speaker 1>these numbers may bounce around. But Trump nationally forty one

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine, and because Kennedy is writing at the best

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<v Speaker 1>part of ten percent, there has not been a big

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 1>change in the overall mix. Remember that's the national picture

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<v Speaker 1>of fifty states. Well, what about the seven states that

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<v Speaker 1>most matter? Again, the most recent poll these that have

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<v Speaker 1>been dated in the past seven days. So Trump winning

0:28:11.640 --> 0:28:17.280
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia.

0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:20.040
<v Speaker 1>If that all comes true, he gets to two seventy votes,

0:28:20.119 --> 0:28:23.919
<v Speaker 1>nice and easy. Nevada, which previously people had said was

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 1>in Trump's column by five points, is now back to

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 1>a tie. Now Wisconsin would be expected to go back

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to a tie as well, so it is getting tighter.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>But if the numbers aren't moving even after the court case,

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<v Speaker 1>that will be fascinating to see. Independents, however, have said

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly by a significant number of about six out of ten,

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 1>that they would think very strongly about voting for Biden

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:51.240
<v Speaker 1>because Trump is now a convicted felon. Of course he

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>will hope to appeal that, but that will not be

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>done before the next election. But perhaps the reason why

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the number is not really moving back Biden's way is

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<v Speaker 1>because of what is the top issue for voters. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>of course it's cost of blooming and the economy. But

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<v Speaker 1>the number two and clearly number two issue that is

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<v Speaker 1>driving people all around the country is.

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<v Speaker 14>It was just one percent of voters who said that

0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 14>it ranked fifteenth on the list of most important problems

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.680
<v Speaker 14>in the United States. Look at where we are today

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.880
<v Speaker 14>May of twenty twenty four, the last Paul conducted by

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 14>galp It's up to eighteen percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And who do they trust on the issue?

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<v Speaker 14>Because back in June of twenty twenty Biden was actually

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<v Speaker 14>trusted more on the question of border security and immigration

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<v Speaker 14>by a single point. Look at where we are in

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<v Speaker 14>May of twenty twenty four. My goodness, gracious, look at

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 14>this huge jump that Donald Trump has gotten. He is

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 14>now ahead on this issue by twenty seven percentage points.

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<v Speaker 14>So it's not just that immigration is more at the

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<v Speaker 14>top of voters minds than it was four years ago.

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 14>It's that who they trust on the issue has tanged tremendously.

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<v Speaker 1>So Joe Biden today I picked up the same pin

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<v Speaker 1>that he used to reverse many of the Trump border

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>decisions and put many of them back, not all of

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 1>them back. And apparently, of course it will only kicking win.

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<v Speaker 1>Two and a half thousand people have passed eight and

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<v Speaker 1>every day. That means nine hundred and twelve and a

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 1>half thousand people will be allowed to cross the border,

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>and then his rules will kick in, something that reporters

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<v Speaker 1>who've been watching the southern border for years say is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a problem.

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<v Speaker 15>You have to focus on the true details here. Yes,

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 15>he is going to limit and restrict asylum to some

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 15>people who cross the border illegally in between ports of entry.

0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 15>But he's going to continue bringing in tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 15>of migrants per month using this CBP one app and

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 15>flying them into the country.

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Via these parole flights. So the illegal.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 15>Crossing numbers may go down a little bit, but he's

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<v Speaker 15>bringing more people into the country through quote unquote lawful pathways,

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:56.360
<v Speaker 15>which are just programs He's created at the executive level.

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<v Speaker 16>Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So he says he'll slam the door if on anyone

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<v Speaker 1>two and a half thousand people cross the border illegally.

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<v Speaker 1>That of course will turn out to be three point

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>six million people should he be re elected over the

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.480
<v Speaker 1>next four years. And he's sculping it from the Lift,

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>who of course the weakest part of the Democratic bise

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>at the moment, because of what's happening in Gaza. He's

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>going Trump.

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<v Speaker 17>I think the President could have handled this differently. I've

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 17>told him that directly, and I think that we have

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<v Speaker 17>to lean in as Democrats to an inclusive vision of immigration,

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 17>and we really have to make continue to point out

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<v Speaker 17>all the differences that we have with Donald Trump, who

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 17>is theenophobic racist, has said terrible things about immigrants.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 18>I know that is not who President Biden is, but

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<v Speaker 18>using the same tools that Donald Trump used is actually

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<v Speaker 18>a big problem for Democrats to be able to continue

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 18>to show those differences and keep our base with us.

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Nothing to say here, all right, quick break back when

0:31:58.000 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>well plent need to talk about everything from the grains

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<v Speaker 1>in a whole lot more. Broman Bishop versus Stephen Conroy,

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Conroy versus Bromwin, Bishop ding Ding, get ready for

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the big battle this Wednesday night, Megan Kelly, before we're done. Oh,

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited. Let's get straight into it right now.

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 1>They can hit as hard as they want. Nobody will

0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 1>be sent to the sin bin. There is no HIA

0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>rules that exist on debate television. Brom and Bishop is

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>here carry out a champ is always on a Wednesday

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>night and trying to take a crown each and every week.

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>But Alas he always finishes just that inch short. He's

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>none other than the wonderful Stephen Conroy who's here to

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.320
<v Speaker 1>help from the Labour Party. So Bromwin. Today we saw

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>fire and brimstone from the Prime Minister about the disgrace

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<v Speaker 1>that was the Greens. Okay, fine, let's all just agree

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>to put them last. Isn't that the ultimate test?

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<v Speaker 10>Absolutely? But I saw him read a speech. I saw

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 10>Peter Dutton speak from the heart and with passion, good

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 10>point and the comparison was riveting. And then of course

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 10>we've seen all the footage of albo is. Yes, our

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 10>fat elbow speaking as he doesn't change his spots, he's

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 10>still elbow the trot.

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, certainly, by the way, I love that yes, apparently

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been able to get access to his office since January.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Why are we only hearing about this in June? All right?

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Unless it was all sort of partially time towards today.

0:33:19.040 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>But Stephen again, I understand the mathematical problem for the

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Labor Party right, which is you can't win every seat

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>on primary, so at some point you're going to need preferences.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.040
<v Speaker 1>At some point you need to do how to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is a safety that comes with the number

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>that comes from the Greens. But are we really supposed

0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to believe that Labour's really blowing up with the Greens

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>when you need the Greens and unless you're going to

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>put them last, it's all a bit of a pantomime,

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 16>Well, look, I mean, just so I've got some historical

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 16>context here, Adam Bant is in Parliament as a member

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 16>for Melbourne.

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>Because the Liberal Party, and it's a disgrace Adam band.

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<v Speaker 16>So just what made sure that.

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I said it in the editorial? I completely tell you my.

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<v Speaker 4>Advice spot don't do it.

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:05.959
<v Speaker 19>But there you go.

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 16>And I believe that Broman, I absolutely very believe that.

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 16>So both parties have a challenge on this less so

0:34:14.360 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 16>for the Liberals, because I think I suspect they will

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 16>actually do follow Bromin's advice this time. Labor they've got

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.640
<v Speaker 16>a range of candidates that they put last, usually ahead

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 16>of the Greens. I mean Pauline Hanston.

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 4>Right wing far right wing.

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 16>Groups usually get put last, so Labor always has to

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 16>balance up between the ideological extremes. I think there's a

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:47.840
<v Speaker 16>case building that the Greens shouldn't get Labour's preferences. I

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 16>think their behavior, their blatant anti semitism, is making.

0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:54.919
<v Speaker 1>It harder for Labor.

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 4>To deal with this.

0:34:57.040 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 16>And I think the increasingly extreme views that have emerged

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 16>from the Greens over the last twelve months on these

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.240
<v Speaker 16>issues means.

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 4>Labour's got to have a very very good look at

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 4>what it does.

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:16.240
<v Speaker 16>In many circumstances well surround the country on that issue.

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 10>But Stephen, the Green's anti semitism was on show as

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 10>early as twenty eleven, I mean when they had their

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 10>whole policy which was to ban boycott Jewish businesses. It's

0:35:33.520 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 10>been there, bubbling away and under the surface.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>But it is fair to say we are where we

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>are now, and it is interesting to hear somebody who

0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 1>understands numbers, like Stephen saying like, I think we're kind

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of getting to that point in the same way as

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 1>I said, at some point in time, the Liberal Party

0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>has to say, of all of the options, you know what,

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>labor's the least worst and vice versa. Instead, when it's

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>just this sort of fight to the death and you know,

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 1>as long as you die, then I'm okay, Well, it's

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 1>much worse for the country.

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 4>Isn't it.

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 10>Well it is. I mean the Greens are an absolute disgrace.

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:13.120
<v Speaker 10>They deserve to be bottom of everybody's voting ticket, no

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 10>matter who they prefer with you, they really are. When

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 10>I saw bat rise in the Parliament having been worn

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:27.279
<v Speaker 10>by the Speaker what rising on indulgence means, and then

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 10>he sets out to try and debate it, which is

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 10>you know, and I know has to be done by

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.760
<v Speaker 10>a different mechanism at a different time in the parliament.

0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>His face it was just so full of hate. It

0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>was just dispiriting. I just want to get off the

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.279
<v Speaker 1>ticket here for a moment, because I quickly want to

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about what the Reserve Bank bosses had to say

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>amazingly today with us just barely sputtering along this is

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>what she says about interest rates. Have a look, if.

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<v Speaker 20>We think we're on the narrow path, we can stay

0:36:59.160 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 20>basically pretty much where we are, not ruling anything in,

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 20>ruling anything out.

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>But if it.

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 20>Turns out, for example, that inflation starts to go up again,

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:11.479
<v Speaker 20>or it's much sticky than we think, we're not getting

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 20>it down, then we won't hesitate to move and raise

0:37:14.200 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 20>interest rates again.

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Now, Stephen, I know you're such a fan of the

0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Reserve Bank, especially it's most recent decisions to go up,

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:25.759
<v Speaker 1>But preparing us again when growth is zero point one

0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>percent and we're in a pick capita recession, that's matt

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 1>it is.

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:30.280
<v Speaker 4>It is extraordinary.

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 16>For ten years, they've got their wage forecasts wrong. They

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 16>predicted wages up here, wages have been down here, and

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 16>that's been the reason why we've got to have interest

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.840
<v Speaker 16>rates at various levels. Then don't forget it's not that

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.719
<v Speaker 16>long ago. Michelle bullergaself tried to say, it's got too

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:52.120
<v Speaker 16>many people having haircuts going to the cinema, that sort

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 16>of stuff. I mean, they keep trying to cherry then

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 16>it was services inflation. They keep trying to.

0:37:56.960 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 4>Cherry pick one statistic out.

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 16>Of twenty to try and justify their completely ludicrous positions.

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 16>They are driving the economy into the ground. It is

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 16>time to start backing off before you send this country.

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:12.560
<v Speaker 1>Into a recession.

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 16>It's already as everyone's talking about a capita recession, and

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.200
<v Speaker 16>that is having serious impact and consequences.

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 10>Steven, we haven't had a full on recession since Paul Keating.

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 10>The recession we had to have it took us ten

0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:30.839
<v Speaker 10>years to recover. Now we've got a treasurer who thinks

0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:35.680
<v Speaker 10>everything's wonderful, it's going swimmingly. He's a snake oil salesman.

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<v Speaker 10>I just pull him the snake jarma. But basically what

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<v Speaker 10>he's saying is all our policies have been great. What's

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<v Speaker 10>he done. He's forced up wages, which has forced up inflation.

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<v Speaker 10>It's chasing and chasing and.

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<v Speaker 4>Chase up wages.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, forced up wages which now buys less. So what's

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<v Speaker 10>the point you wors off petrols up excises up the value.

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<v Speaker 16>You economically illiterate. I've never actually considered to be economically

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<v Speaker 16>illiterate until well the point you've just made.

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<v Speaker 4>Not Stephen, not so grow wage growth, chasing inflation.

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<v Speaker 10>You're in trouble, and everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Knows the Fair Work Commission.

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<v Speaker 16>The Fair Work Commission is generally considered this week to

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<v Speaker 16>have struck.

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<v Speaker 4>The middle ground between its still over.

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<v Speaker 10>It's still over the inflation rate didn't it, So it's

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<v Speaker 10>still chasing. But the bottom line is that the government

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<v Speaker 10>is stimulating. On one hand, says it's.

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<v Speaker 4>These are the lowest flame made workers we have.

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<v Speaker 10>We have got the insane energy policy, which means that

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<v Speaker 10>everything goes up because everything is touched by the cost

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<v Speaker 10>of electricity. There is nothing this government has energy made

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<v Speaker 10>it better.

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<v Speaker 4>For the energy relates were better.

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<v Speaker 1>Let you all lo elected.

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<v Speaker 10>They're better off before your lot were elected.

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<v Speaker 4>No matter what they have falling real wages under you.

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<v Speaker 10>Every person is suffering because of your policy, your body's policies.

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<v Speaker 1>Now maybe it's the life of Brian.

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<v Speaker 16>What are the Romans done for us been apart from

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<v Speaker 16>roads or apart from aqueducts.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like the life of Brian. Real wages going down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not going to be cheering the wages or

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<v Speaker 1>going up.

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<v Speaker 10>There is nothing that this government has done. Nothing, nothing

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<v Speaker 10>makes well.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I think too little texts, I think too little,

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<v Speaker 1>too late. When it comes to the practical side of

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>the tax stuff. Of course, you know the idea of

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 1>every mansion in the country getting bill relief. I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>pleased that that's going to be one of the true

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<v Speaker 1>labor legacies of Snake. What was Snake Chairman? Snake Charman?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, cool? I like it. Thank you guys, out

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<v Speaker 1>of time. We'll do it again next week, I promise longer.

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<v Speaker 1>It means I have to shut up earlier in the show,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's more of you guys every wedding. Stay, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I get the emails, so just get a little focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the news. All right, quick, right back with more,

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<v Speaker 1>including the wonderful Megan Kelly. Next, our favorite time of

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<v Speaker 1>the week to talk to our favorite person in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>not on than the one and only Megan Kelly. Megan,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? My love?

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<v Speaker 19>Great to be here now.

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<v Speaker 1>Hunter Biden is in a trial right now. It's three

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<v Speaker 1>felony charges. He's in a world of pain. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's going.

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<v Speaker 19>He's going down and he's going down hard.

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<v Speaker 21>His best chance is that he's being tried in front

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<v Speaker 21>of a Delaware jury. I mean, he's in federal court,

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<v Speaker 21>but it's still Delawareans and they love the Bidens in Delaware,

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<v Speaker 21>and Jill Biden is sitting front and center in the courtroom,

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<v Speaker 21>and so you know, she's beloved by pretty much everyone,

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<v Speaker 21>and there she's telegraphing this is a loving family. Everyone's

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<v Speaker 21>had a drug problem in their family. This is a

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<v Speaker 21>disease that's affected everyone. And really it's just poor, helpless hunter.

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<v Speaker 21>But the reality is they have him dead to rights

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<v Speaker 21>on the actual charges. There's no question that he filled

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<v Speaker 21>out the form falsely and that he had a gun

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<v Speaker 21>that he was not authorized to have.

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<v Speaker 19>He's going to argue possession.

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<v Speaker 21>Did he really have it or was it really just

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<v Speaker 21>under the control of his dead brother's widow who he

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<v Speaker 21>was having an affair with. Okay, none of that's going

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<v Speaker 21>to work unless we just have jury nullification, you know.

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<v Speaker 21>And the jury nullification is when the jury knows they're

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<v Speaker 21>supposed to find one way and they just won't.

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<v Speaker 19>They just say, I'm not finding him guilty.

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<v Speaker 21>I don't care, I don't care what this verdict form

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 21>has tells me I have to do, because really, his

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<v Speaker 21>defense so far seems to be on the possession charge.

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<v Speaker 21>I really didn't never hold it that much. Philly's kind

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<v Speaker 21>of halle Biden not me. How did it get magically

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<v Speaker 21>from the gun store to your house? Why are you

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<v Speaker 21>pictured with it in your waistband in all your weird

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<v Speaker 21>drug photos. But okay, let's give him that one. How

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 21>is he going to get out of the fact that

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<v Speaker 21>he lied on the application form by saying he wasn't

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<v Speaker 21>an active user and he wasn't an addict? Now, he

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<v Speaker 21>might say he's been arguing an open air opening statement

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:09.279
<v Speaker 21>that he wasn't using like at that moment, so he

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<v Speaker 21>wasn't sniffing cocaine as he was filling out Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 21>on the forum, and that he thought, I guess he was,

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 21>you know, somehow sober because he'd recently.

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<v Speaker 19>Been to rehab. But his book contradicts all of those claims.

0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 21>His book makes very clear he was an active addiction before, during,

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<v Speaker 21>and after the application. So his best hope again is

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<v Speaker 21>during nullification. And if I were Hunter, I'd have Jill

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<v Speaker 21>Biden sitting in the front row too.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, one of the things that I've mentioned a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times when people just don't think is true, can

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<v Speaker 1>you please confirm to us that Hunter Biden, after his

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<v Speaker 1>brother died, ended up hooking up with his dead brother's wife.

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<v Speaker 19>It's a lot, it's a lot to take in. So

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<v Speaker 19>it's just what you thought.

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<v Speaker 21>Hunter Biden couldn't couldn't get any creepier when Bo Biden,

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<v Speaker 21>I think was easily the best Biden. It's very sad

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<v Speaker 21>that he died at a young age. I actually think

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<v Speaker 21>he would have had a great future in democratic politics,

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<v Speaker 21>and as far as I can tell, he wasn't a

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<v Speaker 21>dirtbag like the brother. He was the Attorney General of

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<v Speaker 21>the state of Delaware, and he had a great future

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<v Speaker 21>ahead of him. And I think the old man Joe

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<v Speaker 21>had put most of the family's lockstock and trade into

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<v Speaker 21>the first son, Bo, but tragically he died. He did

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<v Speaker 21>serve in Iraq, and Joe Biden says he is exposed

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<v Speaker 21>to the chemical burn pits there, which caused a brain tumor.

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<v Speaker 21>He did not die in Iraq, but he died supposedly.

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<v Speaker 21>I haven't seen the reports on this myself, but from

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<v Speaker 21>that experience, but in her grief, Hallie Biden, Bo's widow,

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<v Speaker 21>I think was taken advantage of by Hunter Biden, who,

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<v Speaker 21>without question, I'm sure was grieving the loss of his brother,

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<v Speaker 21>but who expresses that grief by going over and stopping

0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:58.680
<v Speaker 21>the grieving widow of your dead brother. I mean, especially

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.360
<v Speaker 21>because you know, I don't know, like I kind of

0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 21>give her a pass because she's so grief stricken. This

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 21>is probably the closest thing she has to bo Biden.

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<v Speaker 21>And I'm sure she was. I mean, no person in

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<v Speaker 21>their right mind was sleep with Hunter Biden, so it's

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:17.160
<v Speaker 21>obvious she wasn't a right mind. And yet you know,

0:45:17.280 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 21>he was in the midst of his constant, ongoing drug thing,

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<v Speaker 21>and nobody in the family had the good sense to

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<v Speaker 21>stop him, including Joe Biden. So yeah, that's what happened.

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<v Speaker 21>Not surprisingly, it didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, everything last week was about Trump being found

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<v Speaker 1>guilty on old counts. Do you think he's actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to get sent to gile Although found some other wise

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<v Speaker 1>of punishing the former president just a couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>before the Republican Convention.

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<v Speaker 21>You know, I've been surprised at the amount of buzz

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<v Speaker 21>over here amongst legal scholars.

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<v Speaker 19>I really respect that.

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<v Speaker 21>He's likely to I mean, we all know he may,

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<v Speaker 21>and I think I thought almost all of us predicted

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<v Speaker 21>he will not. But more and more I'm seeing amongst

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<v Speaker 21>very credible legal and political observers a prediction that he

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<v Speaker 21>will be sentenced to jail. Now, even those people are

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<v Speaker 21>saying the odds are it will be a suspended sentence

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<v Speaker 21>where the first time you get in trouble with the law,

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<v Speaker 21>maybe they say a year in jail or two months

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<v Speaker 21>in jail or two years in jail, but you don't

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<v Speaker 21>actually have to serve it unless you get in trouble

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<v Speaker 21>again during that time and then it kicks right in.

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<v Speaker 19>You've got to go serve the whole bit.

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<v Speaker 21>But even just the sentence like that he would have

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<v Speaker 21>to go to jail suspended or not, would be an earthquake.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, it would be.

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<v Speaker 21>An absolute earthquake. And I still remain convinced that this

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<v Speaker 21>judge won't do it. The theory boils down to yes.

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<v Speaker 21>While virtually no falsification of business records cases get jail

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<v Speaker 21>time unless somebody's falsifying records to cover up like a

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<v Speaker 21>violent felony, you know, it has to be something bad,

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<v Speaker 21>really bad, not federal election law violations or whatever the heck.

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<v Speaker 21>The jury came to the conclusion this was on the

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:01.839
<v Speaker 21>underlying frame. But the argument is that what he's really

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<v Speaker 21>been found guilty of is conspiracy to steal an election,

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<v Speaker 21>and that I mean the Democrats think that warrants at

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 21>least the political death penalty and certainly some time in jail.

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<v Speaker 21>We've got James Comey, the former FBI director, going on

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<v Speaker 21>TV saying he can be put in jail. We'll get

0:47:17.400 --> 0:47:20.359
<v Speaker 21>him a double wide with the double white trailer and

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:24.439
<v Speaker 21>he can sit in the prison yard. So what they're

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:28.840
<v Speaker 21>saying is that Trump has to go serve prison time

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<v Speaker 21>in solitary confinement, which is arguably the worst punishment you

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 21>can give any prisoner for who knows how long. Because

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 21>he wrote down legal expenses instead of hush money payment,

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<v Speaker 21>it makes sense, right, perfect, But.

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<v Speaker 1>Dount Democrats dream of him in the orange jumpsuit, the

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<v Speaker 1>image of him somehow being alone and crying himself to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep in a gile cell.

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<v Speaker 19>Well, he is a rabid partisan.

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<v Speaker 21>And I say that not only because he donated thirty

0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:59.719
<v Speaker 21>five dollars to Biden and has stopped the far right

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 21>con Spiracy subgroup. It was a crazy title that he

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 21>earmarked his money for. That showed he really loathes the right.

0:48:07.920 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 21>But I say it because he ruled I mean overwhelmingly

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<v Speaker 21>for the prosecution in that trial.

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<v Speaker 19>It was so bias.

0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.880
<v Speaker 21>Somebody called him a prosecutor in a judge's robe, you know,

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:18.479
<v Speaker 21>like the secret prosecutor on the bench. I think that's

0:48:18.520 --> 0:48:23.040
<v Speaker 21>exactly right. So I make, you know, no excuses for him.

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:27.160
<v Speaker 21>He's capable of it. But I also think he's astute

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 21>and he might be feeling how that would play on

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:35.120
<v Speaker 21>the other side as well. You know that in the

0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 21>same way the Trump mugshot is now invaluable.

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:41.600
<v Speaker 19>It's everywhere. His supporters love it.

0:48:41.600 --> 0:48:44.319
<v Speaker 21>They're running around with T shirts and actual coffee mugs

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<v Speaker 21>and so on. I think the judge realizes what a

0:48:47.360 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 21>risk that would be. And if I had to put

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:51.759
<v Speaker 21>money on it, because I still silly me have some

0:48:51.800 --> 0:48:54.399
<v Speaker 21>belief in the judicial system, I would say he's going

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<v Speaker 21>to do what he would do in any other case.

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<v Speaker 21>And that's why I am one of the people who

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<v Speaker 21>believes there will not your jail sentence