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Speaker 1: H'm i Boris and this is straight talk.

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Speaker 2: You've got a great voice. Yeah, I actually said I

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Speaker 2: think you're the Matthew McConaughey of Australia.

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Speaker 1: Someone told me my voice puts them to sleep. I've

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Speaker 1: had No, that's not good.

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Speaker 3: You sho do those nice meditation talks.

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Speaker 1: No, ladies and gentlemen, just just gather your thoughts for

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Speaker 1: a moment. A bit creepy.

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Speaker 2: Different in terms of probably, like you said, Yang is

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Speaker 3: Serious legitimately.

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Speaker 1: What do young men tend to do wrong when it

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Speaker 1: comes to dating?

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Speaker 2: Oh, they're all swing no ding?

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Speaker 3: What's that mean?

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Speaker 1: Lucy Jackson and Nikki Westcott correct? How would I fuck

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Speaker 1: it up so early? We talk guys, Lucy Jackson and

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Speaker 1: Nicki Westcott Correct? How would I fuck it up so early? Well?

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Speaker 1: Straight talk, guys, Thank you so much for having us.

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Speaker 1: I know I heard you very I'm very dog really

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Speaker 1: I heard you. Guys actually didn't fight and to see me.

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Speaker 1: You flew down to come to watch Dana White slip

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Speaker 1: into the media and have a really great time the UFC.

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Speaker 1: I heard you guys are partying the UFC big time.

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Speaker 1: Is it true?

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Speaker 2: It's basically true. We're kind of just here to really

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Speaker 2: support Danyae. I don't want stouting about it off air

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Speaker 2: before and we're like, what actually happened with the Australian media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they went off, they went off and they're going

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Speaker 1: to go off about this too. Don't worry because it's

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Speaker 1: going to be a big deal. And no, totally, totally totally.

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Speaker 1: So you guys Gold Coast.

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Speaker 3: Based, we are?

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Speaker 1: Have you always both from be born up there?

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Speaker 3: No, we were both born in north Well, We're both

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Speaker 3: from North Queensland.

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Speaker 1: North Queenslanders.

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Speaker 3: So I'm from near Cans and I gra up at

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, I alsually have a branch of yellow

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Speaker 1: big grow branch at Mount iSER and I had one

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Speaker 2: Ship like full desert. It's meant to be the biggest

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Speaker 1: In terms of a tenser who live in that small area.

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Speaker 2: No, it's something to do with like the land size.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they got away with it, but

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Speaker 2: obviously being from own eyes. So that's something screaming from

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Speaker 1: But I'm standing at the top severn, what the fuck

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Speaker 2: It's actually crazy, like I've seen some wild situations growing

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Speaker 1: It was just like I thought, how good I mean

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Speaker 1: Because obviously they make big money working in the mines

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Speaker 3: These small towns are deceiving because I grew up in Tully,

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Speaker 3: So we studied together at UNI.

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Speaker 1: Where do you go study marketing? Marketing? Back were to

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Speaker 2: It was a Bachelor of Business Business major in marketing,

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Speaker 1: So that's interesting. So Red Bull goes to the universities

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Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like give you like an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: Crazy about so they've got to give you context. So

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Speaker 3: There were like no boundaries of what like we could

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So is there anything that you girls did or

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Speaker 3: Well, not we have a fashion label so like quite

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Speaker 2: I think one thing we really took from Red Bull

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Speaker 2: Your journey exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we take an individual brand. So you were

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Speaker 1: influencers together together. Yeah yeah, but so that alone, I'm so.

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Speaker 3: Glad we do it together. It would be so boring

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Speaker 3: to it on your own.

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Speaker 1: But before all your podcasts and your your fashion label

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Speaker 1: and your your booze label.

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Speaker 2: We worked separately.

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Speaker 1: You did work separately, Yeah, so, well, we.

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Speaker 3: Worked at Red Bull. Then we graduated UNI and we

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Speaker 3: both had individual like Nick worked and advertising. I worked

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Speaker 3: in fashion because that's.

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Speaker 1: Where I want to go. So when did you go

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Speaker 1: after UNI and after the Red Bull experience. Let's so.

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Speaker 2: I went down to Brisbane got my first ever know,

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Speaker 2: obviously being a part of that. It was like before

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Speaker 2: And you're going away for events and stuff, you're going together. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You want to join us, it's just so much funner.

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Speaker 2: But it's just like you know, someone's got to do it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm trying to work out how you coep it

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Speaker 3: I'm very direct.

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Well, because when you were talking right overy beginning, you

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Speaker 3: But I'll shut up now and you can just talk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, We'll just keep going. How do you manage that process? So,

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Speaker 1: Yeah you do. Yeah, we have like yeah, you just

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Speaker 2: Like I know if she's got a tummy a I

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Speaker 3: Well because I tell everyone I don't have any secret.

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Speaker 3: Think as well, like we have well we met as

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Speaker 2: Probably work ethic as well, you know, Like there's not

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Speaker 2: don't working hard with those. No, we're both kind of

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Speaker 1: And what about other ethics, like outside work ethics, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't not moral ethics, but you know, what you

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Speaker 3: Said about the beginning, Like we kind of grew up

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Speaker 2: Even like me with her family were very close. She's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And do they sort of say do they make

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Speaker 1: And you got married recently, I didngratulations you and yourself.

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Speaker 3: I'm not married. I'm single, single, very single. But it's

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Speaker 3: it's kind of good out.

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Speaker 1: There because you're put because we have a lot of show.

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Speaker 3: Take that girl in a date, No, don't. You won't

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Speaker 3: We are just similar. We're different, but we're similar.

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Speaker 2: We're different in terms of probably like you said, Ying

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Speaker 3: Serious legitimately where here we got them?

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Speaker 2: We got them after.

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Speaker 1: I have never seen anything right, I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good time.

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Speaker 3: We've got different personalities, but we have the same core

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Speaker 3: We have like very similar ideas in that space, Like

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Speaker 1: You ever have massive blues, like it never had a

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Speaker 3: We've had some fire blues.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like if we hadn't had a blue

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Speaker 1: We put it on.

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Speaker 2: Can I be squashed?

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Speaker 3: But she's strong. If anyone's going to fight anyone, I'd

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Speaker 3: fight someone to protect you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you would.

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Speaker 1: Could she fight?

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Speaker 2: I reckon? She'd absolutely.

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Speaker 1: She could be in the UF her or something.

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Speaker 2: No, but you fit.

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Speaker 1: Like this is how I think about it.

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Speaker 1: Like watching for review.

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Speaker 2: She's there like got me up and down, and I

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Speaker 3: So she got into a fight at a festival once,

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Speaker 3: Watch out. No, it's good. We have a good.

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Speaker 2: same suburbs, but yeah, we have before.

443
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,919
Speaker 1: You both live in the Gold Coast. Yeah, yeah, but

444
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 1: you live in now you're married sort of obviously living

445
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 1: with your husband. Well, yeah, we were living together.

446
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 3: We lived together for almost ten years, Nicki and I

447
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 3: feel like I didn't live with Nicky's partner now, this

448
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 3: was before him. But no, we have lived together as

449
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 3: well as work together as well as you.

450
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: Like on the bridal party and all that sort of stuff.

451
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

452
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 1: Cool, What does she say in the speechies she gives

453
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 1: you story. She cookeed serious, she ran out adrenal adrenaline,

454
00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:00,399
Speaker 1: jus did you and.

455
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,120
Speaker 3: Box bread box breath? I was like, this is I'm

456
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: dimming so hard right now?

457
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 2: Nervous why she's also she was also having a good

458
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 2: time so champagne.

459
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 3: Yeah at six a m. On the first mimosas you.

460
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 2: Know, read it from the Yeah that our wedding planner

461
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 2: gave us. Mind you you had to keep me on

462
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: the straight. Now, No, we I had a very like

463
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 2: Claire was that our managers at the wedding like, we

464
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: had a very fun, loving everyone was in a loose

465
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 2: wedding are loose wedding, but in a good way. And

466
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 2: she got up to do her speech and she actually

467
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 2: had made like a little rhyme to start it, which

468
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: was quite thoughtful, but did.

469
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Speaker 3: You little.

470
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,640
Speaker 2: It's like when we read out ads for the podcast,

471
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 2: for example, she'll be like like she just cannot get

472
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 2: it out and this and this started happening flex here.

473
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: I feel like he's probably on the cards as well.

474
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: And this started opening and I'm there like go loose,

475
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: you can know it, and she's like like, you literally

476
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: could not get past this one.

477
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: But everyone just had a lot of froze.

478
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it didn't feel like it was a tongue twister.

479
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: It didn't feel that bad because it was very casual.

480
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 3: It was just, you know, everyone's speeches were pretty loose

481
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: and fun, you know, like it's not like there was

482
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: It didn't feel like your typical wedding where the speeches

483
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 3: are really stiff.

484
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 1: But it's I guess it's on video though I watched

485
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: did you? This could be a whole episode. This could

486
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 1: be a whole episode of you, of your podcast.

487
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: Because everyone's like, how is you know? Loosest speech? And

488
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: I was like, good, were you different? Not what you'd expect,

489
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 2: but it was just funny.

490
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: You know. Well, you know when you.

491
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 3: Do things and you can't watch it back, like we

492
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: did this live stream once that got really out of

493
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: hand and I just cannot bring myself to watch it back.

494
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 3: That's what I feel about your wedding speech, because.

495
00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: Like I can't watch myself back. Yeah, it gets Is

496
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: that what I sound like? Do I sound like that?

497
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: A great voice?

498
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

499
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: Actually said I think you're the Matthew McConaughey of Australia.

500
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: Someonetimes my voice puts them to sleep. I've had a

501
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: few supposed to listen all the way through, because you

502
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: want Spotify to say, listen for the whole forty five minutes.

503
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to say you fell asleep after ten minutes.

504
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: You should do those.

505
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: Nice meditation talk.

506
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: Maybe you just just gather your thoughts for a moment.

507
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 1: A bit creepy, So let's just talk. Let's talk about

508
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 1: your businesses. So let's talk about your first I want

509
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: to talk I do want to talk about who is

510
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: Jackson West. So that's a booze brand. Yeah, what I'm

511
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: talking about. It's an actual wine like you label. Yeah,

512
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: So where do you get your wine? There's not a

513
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 1: lot of wine up where you guys come from, maybe,

514
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: but not not up north in your Queensland.

515
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: Now we get it all produced in Melbourne?

516
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: Is the where the grades.

517
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: Coming from down there, like Yarra Valley.

518
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 1: Okay, So what type of wine we want? Red? White Pinots.

519
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 1: It's red.

520
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: It's like a red blend. So it's a blend of

521
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: charas and.

522
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what the other one, to be honest.

523
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 1: Because the reason I asked this question is.

524
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 3: We actually got asked this the other day and I

525
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know what it tasted.

526
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 2: Basically, we were like our target market r wine connoisseewers,

527
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: nor do they probably love a red like we do.

528
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 2: We need to give them like an entry level red.

529
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: So how much we're talking about twenty bucks or something?

530
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, roughly, yeah, because you buy it in a packet three.

531
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just online.

532
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,120
Speaker 1: So because this is the the in a business sense,

533
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: this is your very typical I've got an audience, We've

534
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 1: got you've guys got an audience. We're going to have

535
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: a product because it's hard to commercialize your podcast. I

536
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: mean you can get some ads and stuff like that,

537
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: but actually hard to really commercialize it. But get to everybody,

538
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: and you've got to find the product that suits your audience.

539
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: So what sort of research do you guys do? How

540
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: do you work out you know, our audience would like

541
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: to get a bottle of red wine to twenty five

542
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: bucks or would pack a three.

543
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 3: We kind of just model it off literally like ourselves

544
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: when we were our audience's age, Like we you know,

545
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: we were always just think about kind of what we

546
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: were doing when we were twenty five, what we were wearing.

547
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 3: Because our biggest brand I guess that we own is

548
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: our clothing label. That would be our biggest one. But yeah,

549
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 3: we kind of just do we really just use ourselves

550
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: as we are our own customers.

551
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: Because Jagger and Stone came first. That was our first business,

552
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: and then the podcast and.

553
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: The Jagerstone's the clothing. Yeah, the clothing label. I'll come

554
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: back to that in a sec. So Jaggerstone came first.

555
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: So that's your first press. You had a product before

556
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: you had your podcast audience. Yeah, that's mad. So that's yeah.

557
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 3: So we started initially doing Instagram together.

558
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: So what was your audience like, like in terms of

559
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: festivals parts, Like we would go to festivals and wear

560
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: these crazy matching outfits that would be that was like

561
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: kind of our thing, like in Color or La Cambrella.

562
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, all different brands, but like you know, I guess

563
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 3: we were kind of more known for those like crazy

564
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 3: prints and stuff, and that's kind of how we initially

565
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: grew our audience. And then we started Jagger and Stone

566
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 3: when we kind of decided to leave our jobs to

567
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: commit full time to I guess pursuing our own thing together,

568
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: and then about a year later the podcast started and

569
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: then it's just kind of gone from there.

570
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: So I'm actually pretty intrigued by this. That process is

571
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: sort of in reverse to the sort of process most

572
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: other people do. They go out and do a podcast,

573
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: They create an audience, and they say building a product,

574
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: and they sell the product to the audience, whereas you

575
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: had a product then you build a podcast. So but

576
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: if you just go back, let's just move the wine

577
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: thing aside of a second. But I don't feel about

578
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: wine because I have a whiskey business, and like, you know,

579
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm always interested white people do booze.

580
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 3: I did because we like to drink.

581
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: I did it for no reason other than my dad

582
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: loved whiskey. And I don't know if that's really a

583
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: very good business reason. It's done right, it's a good product. Yeah,

584
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't make any fucking money out of it though,

585
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: like made nothing like but the government time the government

586
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: takes it ship, get it distributed. You know, you've got

587
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: to put in a box and nice box, send it off.

588
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: You know, you make about ten bucks. Yeah, and I'm

589
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: selling for two hundred. I'm making it. Like maybe it

590
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: might be a bit more than that, but I get

591
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: to make about ten bucks a bottle. It's only not

592
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: worth it.

593
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: For the whiskey. Sounds like a good drug.

594
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: Why not straight? I should say Australia's best single moore

595
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: to use in a row.

596
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: Oh.

597
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: Barrel with that barrel. But it's but it's still like

598
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: it's hard to make money out of these things. And

599
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm sort of curious as to how you

600
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: go about it, Like, like why did you decide to

601
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: have its price.

602
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: Honest funny story.

603
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, our wine's in a bit of like a transition

604
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 3: period at the moment. We just kind of bought out

605
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: our business.

606
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: Partners because you've got to go with someone who can

607
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: do it, yes, jumping on the grapes and picking the

608
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: grapes and stuff like that. Although we would yeah, although

609
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: we actually I tell you what, that would be good

610
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 1: good image, like your good content for.

611
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: We actually.

612
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we we'd always spoken about it in the background,

613
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: and then because we were like, it's the most it's

614
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: the product that makes the most sense for us. We

615
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: drink wine, target market drink wine, like we drink a lot.

616
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: Of wine on the show or just in general, just

617
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: in general, not really on the show.

618
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: Actually we did recently. When we drink on the show,

619
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: it's bloody, hilarious more.

620
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: Tones bottle of wine. What do well.

621
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: We used to when we first started the podcast, We

622
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: used to drink when we recorded a lot, like all

623
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: the time, and then yeah, it just kind of got

624
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 3: a little bit rogue and I was like I just

625
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 3: can't also be drinking this much.

626
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: And we also didn't really realize how many people would

627
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: start listening, so we were like clean it up a bit, shall.

628
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: We, Because there's that like there's a there's a group

629
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: of girls which is Jane, Lou and Gen George.

630
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 3: You are that, oh like mine to drink is drinking wine.

631
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, They've got a huge audience, massive audience, and they

632
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: hold functions and they do drink wine like that's it's

633
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: a wine and cheese I think. And they get live

634
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: and they also get like in person and they also

635
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: get like people streaming in and that's pretty cool. I've

636
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: spoken at a few of those events. And because Jen

637
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: George is I know Jane through various other place, but

638
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: Jen George's a good friend of one of my sons.

639
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: They went to union together or something of that. And

640
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: that's a great it's a great little business. They kill them.

641
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is really cool.

642
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm actually in their Facebook group and it goes off. Yeah.

643
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, we with the with the wine, well, we

644
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: had we wanted.

645
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: To start it, and then we found the right people

646
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: to start it with and producers, someone to supply the

647
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: wine sales. They already have like another alcohol brand, so

648
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: it was kind of just like felt very fitting.

649
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: Yep.

650
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: But then blessings for them, they actually ended up selling

651
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 2: their business and got it got out of the game.

652
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: So with someone else also then we just kind of

653
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: like decided to buy them out. So at the moment

654
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: with the wine, it is in like a bit of

655
00:29:59,000 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: a transition.

656
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: So the two of you, you've sort of become business,

657
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: probably not forced, but just through you know, circumstances, you

658
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: become business people. Like you're no longer influencers doing marketing

659
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, like trying to work out what

660
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: dress to wear to a festival softa. You're now in

661
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: the guts of business, like you're buying people out, getting documents,

662
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: briefing lawyers, negotio.

663
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Speaker 2: A couple of trusting around.

664
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Speaker 1: Ye structures, structures like corporate structures, you know, like what's

665
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: the best structure to have? Should I have a family

666
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: trust or a partnership between the two of you or

667
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: is it a company or dividends and blah blah blah.

668
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: How does that shit feel?

669
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: Overwhelming?

670
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, very much of learning all the time. Like we

671
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: have a lot of Like we've learned a lot over

672
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: the years, but honestly, there's always still so much more

673
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 2: to learn. But I guess one thing, we have had

674
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 2: the same accountants since word go which is helpful because

675
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: we can kind of like rely on them for business

676
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: advice and stuff. But yeah, that just reminds me how

677
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: your tax bill, bro I.

678
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: Forgot to sign something really important the other day, just

679
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: reminded me of literally then.

680
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: But that's a big transition, and I'm not signing a pigeonhole.

681
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: But like two girls who did a degree in marketing

682
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: and good creators, very good in the creative game, all

683
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: of a sudden you start getting overwhelmed, not overtaken by

684
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: the amount of administration you've got to do. When you're

685
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: in business, there's a lot of administration.

686
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: I'll tell a good story about what the first time

687
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: I realized we were kind of like getting a bit business,

688
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: ye is when we were trying to buy our one

689
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: of our warehouses, so we've got we actually just sold one,

690
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: but it was one that we just sold, so we

691
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: were trying to buy a third. So basically we bought

692
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: the warehouses that Jagger and Stone are now in like

693
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: our office, and then the next one next door came

694
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: up for sale, and so we always said we want

695
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: to be you know, second rider passage whatever to get

696
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: in for sale anyway, So sure enough it comes to us,

697
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: and we were kind of like going back and forth

698
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 2: about it, and I said, oh, yep, this rate, like

699
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: this is a price blah blah blah, Yeph, no worry.

700
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: So we're in the background setting up with our trusts,

701
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: and I spoke to the real estate and I said, listen,

702
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 2: I'm awake. Can this wait till Monday? And he goes,

703
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: I'll check with the seller. Yep, you GOLs are good

704
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: for Monday anyway. So it comes Monday midday. Hey, girls,

705
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: Unfortunately you've taken too long. We're taking it. We're taking

706
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: it to market fifty grad more starting price.

707
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 3: Good luck.

708
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: And then we just goes so and I was like,

709
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: oh my god, raddle and I went back through my

710
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: messages with him and I said, were like, you.

711
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: Told him that we needed and to monday.

712
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: Then you start second guessing things. And I was like,

713
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: oh my god, I need to look. And I looked,

714
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: and sure enough he'd agreed to saying monday, and I

715
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: just went, I don't know. And then he calls me, Hey, Nikki, yeah, look,

716
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: you know things are changed, blah blah blah. Lucy just

717
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: grabs the phone, Hey, Giles, Lucy here, I don't know

718
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: how the fuck you do business, but this isn't it, mate,

719
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: And just.

720
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: Year old real estate agent has been in the game

721
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: for so long, and I was just like, I don't

722
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 3: know how you run your business, Giles, but this isn't it.

723
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: You said we've got it in writing that. You said

724
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: we had to on Monday, take the money and call

725
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: it a day. And he was like, and so he goes,

726
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to talk to the tellers.

727
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to talk to the sellers. He goes, yeah,

728
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: we'll call me back, and it calls back. He goes, well, girls,

729
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how you've done it. They've agreed to

730
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: the price all these ridiculous terms, which we were like,

731
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 2: game on, and he goes. His final thing was, well,

732
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: I don't know you that well, but I think you'll

733
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: go farign business.

734
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 3: So what's an idiot anyway? Sorry, Giles.

735
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: But the process of that process of becoming like tough

736
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: enough to negotiate with the real estate agents I need

737
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: to negotiate with, especially older ones of that experience. They've

738
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: done about a million deals, they've seen every response.

739
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, literally, I think he was just China. They were

740
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: just trying to obviously.

741
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: The market fifty up to well, that's it.

742
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 2: The market started booming, so fair enough, they probably could

743
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: have got more for it. But I was like, well,

744
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: this is a this ship's him writing this is yeah.

745
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: Because but because as soon as you said it, as

746
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: soon as you were mentioning that process, I thought himself.

747
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: If I was real estate Asian, I would have said

748
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: to my client, but the vendor, I would have said,

749
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: the vendor, listen, these women, they definitely want to buy

750
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: this place. Yeah, so why don't we just tell them

751
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: that there's you can have for another fifty.

752
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of what they would I guess low

753
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: key doing.

754
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

755
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, But but then do you feel really comfortable that

756
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: Lucy is the sort of person will jump all over

757
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

758
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: Because I.

759
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: Was. I was talking to him because I do a

760
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: lot of the admin email Admin girl. She comes in

761
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: and she comes in when winning the big bad wolf

762
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: to blow, and.

763
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 3: It's kind of I never had any intention of actually

764
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 3: getting that angry, but I was like, genuinely pissed off.

765
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: I was like, that's so not that's so not play

766
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 3: on to like, because I was pull it away from

767
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: it and I was.

768
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: Like, and you know, I was having that conversation that

769
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: I was like, well, Joels, I don't really understand, Like

770
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the messages now you said it would

771
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: be fine. We've been working blood, working tirelessly in the

772
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: background to set up all this stuff and blah blah blah,

773
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: and Lucy just had enough jobs. It's Lucy.

774
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: So you're you've got two warehouses now we just told.

775
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: Technically, yeah, lots.

776
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: We haven't settled, as we say, no.

777
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: We have settled on that way. So basically there was

778
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: three that we owned, but we take up two that

779
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 2: they made into one.

780
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: And warehouses used for your stock? Is that office?

781
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: We actually run our stock out of a three p

782
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: L now just for like less work like stuff?

783
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: Really, yes? Can I do? I want to get onto

784
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: the stuff? So, like, how many people are working for

785
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: you guys?

786
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: Now, there's about seven of us that work full time.

787
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: Is that in the fashion brand or that that's the

788
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: fashion brand?

789
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well one of them kind of, I guess is

790
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: an assistant to us in so she might do a

791
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 3: few different bits and bobs for us. She might do

792
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 3: podcasting stuff or whatever. So but just in the fashion brand, Yeah, there's.

793
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: Six and a half in the fashion moon. But what

794
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: about everything else they go over all well then podcast

795
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: everything else.

796
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 2: All those teams are kind of like external.

797
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: The s c A.

798
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: We are with s c A with A the you're

799
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: on listener yes yeah, okay, so yeah, so so just

800
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: so people, So when I say I do, they'll produce

801
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: it for you. They will actually find the guests. Do

802
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: you have guests sometimes? Okay, So they will find a guess,

803
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: they'll produce it for you, they'll cut it up, they

804
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: edit it, and then they'll distribute it for you. And

805
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: then they also find the advertisers exactly, and then and

806
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: they they you do a profit share or a revenue

807
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: share type deal.

808
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 3: And then we're also on the radio, which is under

809
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 3: s c A as well on the Hit network.

810
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: So you guys got a radio show, yes, cap up,

811
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: and you're on hit a.

812
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: 's Friday Saturday night.

813
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: So they it's actually pre recorded, actually on pre record.

814
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: I'm not spending my Saturday night at the radio.

815
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: So you're not doing country in Western or something like that.

816
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: We're doing it's just kind of like about a lot

817
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: of pop.

818
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 3: It's just like top forty stuff. We don't actually choose

819
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: the music, which I really feel like we need to

820
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 3: preface that because people.

821
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: Like, is that your song?

822
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: We don't like Taylor's with for that much.

823
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: My Korean cleaner. I've got a cleaner. His name is Josh,

824
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 3: and he's this lovely Korean man with three kids. And

825
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: he came to my house the other day and he's like, oh, Lucy,

826
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: I heard you on the radio the other night and

827
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: I was like, thanks, Josh. He goes loved the music

828
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: you chose. I don't choose the music, Josh, but thanks.

829
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: Because that's that's with SCA as well at the radio station.

830
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: So it's important to support your podcast with some other

831
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: form of media like that really helps.

832
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: Oh, they're great, Like there's like we do a whole

833
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: break called like the podcast where you play and they

834
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: put it in like the little you know how they

835
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: have that crazy voice over that. It's like.

836
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: We just thought it was so incredible.

837
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: When we started doing the radio, we were just like, wow,

838
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: what a highly highly produced.

839
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: So many so many, it's very.

840
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: Like over stimulating.

841
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: So when you say they're external, like that's there's teams exactly,

842
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: but you didn't have to manage your teams, which is.

843
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: Great, work very closely with them, Like our producer of

844
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 3: our podcast, We speak to you at least once a day,

845
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 3: Like we kind of have like so many different things

846
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: that we speak to the radio team probably two or

847
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: three times a week. We talked to our manager.

848
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: Claire consistently, the same team, so it's a great support.

849
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: So does that is that that sort of bopping around

850
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: the joint, Like you're one minute you're doing in your

851
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: fash bread, next minue you're doing something with the one,

852
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: next minute you're doing something for radio, next thing you're

853
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: joined to produced for the podcast. Does that fit well

854
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: into your ad?

855
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 3: No, not at all. It's really I get a really overstemmed.

856
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, and I kind of have.

857
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: Now we've we've actually because we've been doing it now

858
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: for many years, so we've kind of only five shies. Yeah,

859
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,240
Speaker 3: we've only just kind of nailed the balance, the balance

860
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: of like on this day, we have a Jagger and

861
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 3: Stone day and no offense to any of our other projects,

862
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: but we don't talk on those days. Like, don't try

863
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 3: and book a meeting, Okay, don't try and do this

864
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: unless it's like really important, just because otherwise we just

865
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: don't end up ever getting any actual work done. All

866
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: we do because we record radio and podcasting a week.

867
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: We're kind of recording for like two true big days

868
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 3: where we barely even on our phones to do any

869
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: emails or anything, so.

870
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: So you chunk out ten parts over.

871
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 2: So we do we do two a week, so we

872
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: only record two back time, which we'll exactly yeah, So

873
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: we'll do that every Tuesday day and then the radio

874
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: will do every Thursday. So it's kind of like there's

875
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: half a day here and there gone.

876
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about that? Viism And I've

877
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: been through the process with SAH many many years ago,

878
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: but how do you feel about that process? Given that

879
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: it sort of determines if you just feel like going

880
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: down of Born Bay for the week you can't. It's

881
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: sort of like you're pretty much running your calendar to

882
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: someone else's calendar, or your calendar to your listener's calendar.

883
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 2: With the SCA that we've found is like because we

884
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: do travel a lot, but they have offices in Sydney, Melbourne.

885
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: It's been Gold Coast, so it is kind of flexible

886
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: in that sense because you can kind of just plug

887
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: in from anywhere into your show, which has been great.

888
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: But if it is if we have to go away,

889
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: we just know and we just honestly bang out a

890
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: lot of pre recording at once.

891
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: But if you're trying to get married, for example, which

892
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: is you know, more recently, you've got to sort of

893
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: think about, Yeah, we.

894
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: Did a lot of big recording days.

895
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of pre planning. But it sounds like

896
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: more complicated than it is. It's just kind of like

897
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: any job really, like you have to get your work

898
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: done before you go and leave anywhere. But one thing

899
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: that I have noticed with because we are I guess

900
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: work for ourselves, and we have for ages, and then

901
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 3: when you kind of start, especially radio, because it is

902
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 3: more to the you know, time restraints and stuff of

903
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 3: the station.

904
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: Which by the way, runs in terms of when radio

905
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: was on. When radio is off, like you won't be

906
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: putting much out. You won't be recording in December.

907
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: Because as well time slot in December.

908
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: But not ordinarily your show would not be during the

909
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: off season. Yes, you might feeling you might take over

910
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: someone else's role on holidays, but but you're always running

911
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: your agenda or your calendar to the other calendars always.

912
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: It's so, and you said something interesting, we work for ourselves,

913
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: but actually in fact you're not, I mean and a

914
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: lot of people sit out and think, oh wow, how

915
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: good it would be to work for yourself. But when

916
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: you're work for yourself, you're working to your audience it self.

917
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: So you're your list You're going to work to your listeners,

918
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: and when your advertisers want to put stuff on your

919
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: content with your alongside your content out to the listeners

920
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: and they're trying to sell to. And then when you're

921
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: clothing business, that's probably going Christmas times probably when your

922
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: busiest times. So it sounds like you're busy all the time.

923
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: Literally. It's funny with the radio because obviously in our

924
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 2: contract we have these live filling periods which we actually

925
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: love doing. Like the live radio, it's so so much adrenaline,

926
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 2: like we have a we have a great time.

927
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: So what was the love feeling? What's that?

928
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: Just like as in on live, like no pre recording

929
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: every night, five days a week like doing a live

930
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 2: so you know, let's kind of build things out during

931
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: the week with callers and stuff. But that was straight

932
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 2: after Black Friday, which obviously is e commerce's biggest time

933
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: of the year, and in the leader Friday, I'm pretty

934
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: sure last year wasn't it, So we kind of were like,

935
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: that's one of those moments where we went, wow, probably

936
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: shouldn't have taken that because we were like working the

937
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: whole day with our Jagger team, then going into the

938
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: radio at night and still podcasting. So we were like, we're.

939
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: Not very good at time managements.

940
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but that's an interesting point, very interesting point.

941
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: I think topical entrepreneurs always take too much on and

942
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: it's not that bad because I mean, you'll give yourself

943
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: an up and caunt and say well, I'm not doing

944
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: that again. We will YouTube probably talk to each other

945
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 1: and say well we'll stop taking too much and saying

946
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: yes to everything. But actually to be entrepreneur always does

947
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: it when you get through it to go oh, that

948
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: wasn't too bad, and then someone will come along and say,

949
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: look do you mind doing this?

950
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: You know.

951
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: Ship will do it? Is that sort of your your caper?

952
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: Like that is that your rhythm?

953
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: We like doing everything. That's the challenge as well, because

954
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: we actually like, I'd happily just do everything. It's super fun.

955
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: But I think when we find the pressure is mainly

956
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: when our business at home is struggling and we feel

957
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 3: like we're neglecting it because we've got staff, and we

958
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: don't have much middle management, like we the goals all

959
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 3: report directly into us. So that's where where we were

960
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: finding a lot of overwhelm was like if we were

961
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: doing all these other things and then like our staff

962
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 3: were like waiting on us Frances or when the business

963
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 3: wasn't proprietors.

964
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: The proprietors, so what I call the proprietor's nick. The

965
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,280
Speaker 1: proprietor's going, yes, exactly, you've got to do this work. No,

966
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,240
Speaker 1: nothing will happen unless you do it exactly.

967
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 3: Your answer the.

968
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: Off like that document you've got to sign that you

969
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: have signed exactly.

970
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: But we're working on that's like an US problem, do

971
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like that can be resolved.

972
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: It just had to. We just had to kind of

973
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,720
Speaker 3: get in there. And we're actually already this year seeing

974
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: a lot of improvements in that we've restructured the team

975
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: a bit. We've got another staff member on and stuff.

976
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: So that's like even with our new staff member coming

977
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: on and we're like, that's going to be a big

978
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: month for the team. So Claire, our manager, I just

979
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: email her and be like block out, no trouble in

980
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: this these weeks. Do you know what I mean, In

981
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 2: the past, we just kind of like let ourselves be available,

982
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: whereas now we're like, let's hone in on this because

983
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: then our future selves will thank us for that and

984
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: then we can go do the fun things.

985
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: So you're both young, but you're just recently married and.

986
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: We're not that young.

987
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Mark, Yeah, relatively speaking, So I'm looking to double You're right.

988
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: So do you ever think to yourself, well, I'm not

989
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: going to always be single, I'm not going to always

990
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: be without a kid.

991
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: Oh what's that?

992
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: What's that look like for you in the future or

993
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: is that scary or you don't give a shit.

994
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 2: I feel like it's scary for sure, Like I guess

995
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: even just being married, it's like like I'm definitely going

996
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 2: to have kids eventually, and that it's definitely scares me

997
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: because I'm like, right now our lives are chaos. But honestly,

998
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: I think you just make it work if it happens, Like,

999
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: if it happens, it happens, and you've got a plus

1000
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: one then so maybe you won't be able to go

1001
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: away four times a week, but I'm sure you can

1002
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 2: just make it work. I don't like to be too

1003
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: stressed about it.

1004
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: But that's a pretty we both done. It seems like

1005
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: you get too overwhelmed by stuff, and if you do,

1006
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: you just roll with it.

1007
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I.

1008
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 3: Think, Yeah, comparatively to I think we definitely can be stressed,

1009
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: and I can certainly be a diva at times. But

1010
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 3: I think comparatively to, yeah, I think we are kind

1011
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: of still just people that when not that having a

1012
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: baby is shit, things happen, but like when things happen

1013
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: that maybe you weren't exactly planned for you, we just

1014
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 3: kind of go, oh, well, got to deal with it now.

1015
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: The baby didn't sleep all night yea and had to

1016
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: go emergency war because I thought she was going be

1017
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: able to breathe because she had a flu. And I'm

1018
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: turned off for the podcast.

1019
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: Kind of people that end up at the restaurant having

1020
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: a wine with our baby, like we're not going to

1021
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 3: be There's a.

1022
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: Lot of friends that have had kids recently, and you know,

1023
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: they're like, it is hard. Of course it's hard. Of

1024
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: course they're sleepless nights, but you know it's not like

1025
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: it is what you make of it if you want to, like,

1026
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: you can also let the baby fit into your life,

1027
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: and like, I don't want any mother to come because

1028
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: I know it's not that easy, but that's the mindset

1029
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to go into it with, like obviously things

1030
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: will change, but I also want the baby to try

1031
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: and fit into my life. And I think we've done

1032
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 2: a good job of like you know, we'd like Liu said,

1033
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: we do work for ourselves. If it ever doesn't work,

1034
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure she'll be like sweet the kids being up

1035
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: all night, that's fine, neck. We can record on thervo.

1036
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: It's not going to be like a.

1037
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: Crazy, unbelievably good attitude.

1038
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: Though.

1039
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 1: I got two more questions for you, because I getting

1040
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: wound up to go to a question for you know

1041
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: how that works produced away saying come acord, yeah, So

1042
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: I'll go to more questions even though that's not on

1043
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: the list. The The first question is why do you

1044
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: think your podcast is so popular and banging, like, what

1045
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: is it? What is it? What's it? What is it

1046
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: in the content that works so well?

1047
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: I think in the Australian podcasting space, yep. I think

1048
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 3: that there are a lot of female duos, but I

1049
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: don't think that there may be are any that are

1050
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 3: as unpolished as usgangans Bogan.

1051
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: That's it, but Kathy Kim, we actually dressed up as Kathin.

1052
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to because I've seen a

1053
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: few of the stuff on your instance.

1054
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just kind of like very relatable and but

1055
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 3: is it natural? Honestly, I'm the biggest overshare you'll ever meet,

1056
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: like legitimately, some of the things that I've said on

1057
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 3: that podcast, Mark, I hope you don't ever listen because

1058
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: you're a man, but like huge oversharer and we just

1059
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: have got a very genuine friendship which I think people

1060
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: can relate to or they like.

1061
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: Like sometimes we forget the things we say in the

1062
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: pod because we'll just go off on a tangent and

1063
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: plant together like the friends we are, Like even when

1064
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: we're not recording and we're not at work, we still

1065
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: like we do not run out of shit to talk about.

1066
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the same thing for fifteen years.

1067
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: Like the other day, my husband's in the background at least, know,

1068
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 2: like just like on the phone to each other for

1069
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: ages and he's like you still on the phone. Baby's like,

1070
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: how what are you guys talking about? Now? We're actually

1071
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: talking about but we just because.

1072
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: We just like talking to each other. I think people

1073
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: really feel maybe that, yeah.

1074
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 2: They feel like it's easy listening. You feel like you

1075
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: could be getting ready with your friends. It's kind of

1076
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: like just feels Yeah, we don't preach.

1077
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 3: Because we don't really have like really strong opinions about things.

1078
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 3: So it's not like we're there, you know, talk a

1079
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: lot about like even if it is a pop culture

1080
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 3: one they might have really strong views on certain things.

1081
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: Were kind of just a little bit more lighthearted than that.

1082
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: And I don't feel like there's many people doing that.

1083
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: Maybe it's probably why it's been popular.

1084
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: Our producer, male mid twenties, has a question, you know,

1085
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: he specifically asked me to ask you what, and you

1086
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: guys will have an opinion, and also your audience probably

1087
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: feed you back stuff. What do young men of his

1088
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: in his genre I tend to do wrong when it

1089
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: comes to dating? Oh what do you know?

1090
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 2: They all swing?

1091
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: No ding?

1092
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: What's that mean?

1093
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I've.

1094
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: Got to Well, he's listening, don't worry about it. And

1095
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: this is recorded, and we will bring this up in

1096
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: our next group meeting.

1097
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 3: And you give him a serving man.

1098
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: You want to hear something.

1099
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 3: They're all full of ship for lack of a better word,

1100
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: like so they just you know, A guy even like

1101
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: keeps messaging me we need to catch up, and I'm like, yeah,

1102
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm home on Wednesday and Thursday. Wednesday and Thursday day

1103
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 3: may have free days, but booking, I'm very busy. I'm

1104
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 3: away on Monday, Tuesday, I'm away to the rest of

1105
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 3: the week. Just just completely bypasses making a plan. Then

1106
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 3: I walked past him and I'm like, oh hey, and

1107
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 3: he's like, we really need to catch up for a

1108
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 3: dream and I'm like.

1109
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: Wednesday Thursday you swing, No, did, but then reply to

1110
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: every story like oh, it's like just take me out.

1111
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

1112
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 2: Want a pen pal and yeah.

1113
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 3: The amount of pen pals, the amount of talking stages

1114
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 3: that I had, I don't do them anymore, Like strictly

1115
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: no talking.

1116
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: Lucy just calls about that I do.

1117
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: I literally go. A guy followed it unfollowed me the

1118
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 3: other day and I go, did you just follow and

1119
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 3: unfollowed me?

1120
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: Like what are you doing looking at your page seeing

1121
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: who's followed and unfollowed you?

1122
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: I noticed because it must have come up in my

1123
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: thing because we've got mutuals, so I could see that

1124
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 3: he followed me. I was, Oh, this is this cute boy?

1125
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden I looked again, like a

1126
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: day later, and he unfollowed.

1127
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: The girlfriend probably said to him, why are you following?

1128
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just yeah, all swing not ding is

1129
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 3: a good one. There's a million other things that they're

1130
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: doing wrong, but that's definitely one.

1131
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: And Mike and this one. This questions. My question always

1132
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: in a fascinating with people when they come up with

1133
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: a brand name jagr and stone Jack is Itjaggle or

1134
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: jagrant Jagger and as in Mick Jagger?

1135
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: Well yeah, well well we had to spell it differently

1136
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: because we got to his people really no trademarkt and

1137
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 2: so we went to court.

1138
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: Wow, so we're spelled.

1139
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: It was J A. G. G.

1140
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: Doublestone.

1141
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 2: And then basically our second ever collection that we release,

1142
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 2: we on our email get this letter because trademarks are

1143
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 2: taking on such a long time to come through. It

1144
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: took like about nine months or whatever, so IP Australia

1145
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 2: obviously approved.

1146
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: It, checked out emails back then lucky I always have.

1147
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: And fair just before fair to say you catchy sos?

1148
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

1149
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: You go through cut up the cloth and she just

1150
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: stands behind and make sure, it's all stitched up.

1151
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 3: No, really, I just really am bad on emails. Like

1152
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: I'm pretty good. I do a lot of other things

1153
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: that like that run the business in certain ways, but

1154
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 3: I just really don't like my emails.

1155
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: I don't blame me, so yeah, let's be honest. Yeah.

1156
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: So then then when it went out to like when

1157
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: it was advertised, obviously someone contested it, and so we

1158
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: were kind of like, oh, I thought we had a chance,

1159
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: and we went to court, didn't win.

1160
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: Ironically, we wasn't. It had nothing to do with me, nothing.

1161
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: What did they have something to do with, Like you

1162
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: picked those two words like.

1163
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 2: Well, Jagger is like Lucy like is in like the

1164
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: more jugger lightning bolt like crazy energy, and then I

1165
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: was the stone like.

1166
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 3: The ground really so yeah that makes sense.

1167
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: So Yang type deal much.

1168
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just sounded cool.

1169
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: It does sound cool, yeah, and.

1170
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 3: Something we didn't even know at the time, but we

1171
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 3: can add to it to give it more gusto is

1172
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: I'm Lucy Jackson, j A Jagger and Nikki Westcott Stone

1173
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: st Stone.

1174
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: Following that someone commented on something recently.

1175
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: But actually that's you never let the truth get in

1176
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 1: the way of a good story and by the way

1177
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: to a ways about storytelling and and and I think

1178
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 1: you guys are experts at it. And I've really enjoyed myself.

1179
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: They've been a great convert than thanks

1180
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having us us