1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Christa 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: naming it. It's Thursday May sixteenth. Four years. That's how 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: long taxpayers have got to enjoy the benefits of the 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: government's Stage three tax cuts. After that, higher tax rates 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: will kick back in. That's despite Treasurer Jim Chalmers big 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: cost of living pitch on Tuesday night. 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: We are easing pressure on Australians while investing in our people, 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: our economy and our future. 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: The Treasurer said on Wednesday. The government won't means test 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: the three hundred dollars energy rebates announced in the budget 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 1: because it'll take too long and cost too much. That's 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: despite his concession that well for your Australians with more 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: than one home could claim multiple subsidies. You can read 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: our experts ongoing analysis of Labour's third federal budget right 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: now at the Australian dot com dot au. The fight 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: over a contentious piece of evidence in the appeal of 17 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: Christopher Michael Dawson has gone down to the wire. The 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 1: former rugby league star has asked the New South Wales 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: Court of Appeal to overturn his conviction for the nineteen 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: eighty two murder of his first wife. In today's episode, 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: the Last Moments of Chris Dawson's latest attempt at freedom. 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: In twenty thirteen, Marilyn Dawson posted a picture to Facebook. 23 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: A friend, Ray Butler, had his arms slung around his 24 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: old footy mats, her husband Paul on the left, and 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: his twin brother Chris on the right. They're beaming at 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: the camera. They'd enjoyed similar reunions in the decades since 27 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: they shared the paddock at Gosford Rugby League Club, where 28 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: Butler was a manager. The twins played for the club 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: after they left the Newtown Jets. The Dawsons went on 30 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: to be teachers when their footy careers wound down, but 31 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: they stayed in touch, catching up at club events and 32 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: family gatherings. Their spouses Marilyn, who was married to Paul, 33 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: Chris's wife Lynn, and Ray's wife Sue got to know 34 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: each other too. When that picture was posted to Facebook 35 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen. Sue and Lynn had long since died, 36 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: but their stories are forever intertwined. Five years after that 37 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: picture was taken, Chris Dawson was charged with Lynn's murder. 38 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: We now referred to her as Lynn Simms at the 39 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: request of her family. She disappeared from Sydney's Northern Beaches 40 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, leaving her beloved four and two 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: year old daughters behind. Inquiries conducted by police and members 42 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: of Lynn's family failed to get answers about what happened 43 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: to the young mum, but the cold case was given 44 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: new life by The Australian's investigative podcast The Teacher's Pet, 45 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: created by our colleague Hedley Thomas. In twenty twenty two, 46 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: Dawson was brought. 47 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: To trial. 48 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Decades in the making. 49 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: Chris Dawson found guilty of murdering wife Lynette at Bayview 50 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: forty years ago. 51 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Justice Ian Harrison sentence Dawson to twenty four years in 52 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: prison for the crime, and now the former rugby league 53 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: star is hoping to have the conviction quashed in the 54 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: state's highest court. In hearing the case in twenty twenty two, 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: Justice Ian Harrison didn't dwell on the evidence of Ray Butlin, 56 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: the former rugby league player, told the court his wife Sue, 57 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: had seen a woman she believed to be Lynn Simms 58 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: at a fruit market where she worked in the weeks 59 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: after Lynne disappeared from Bayview. Butlin said Sue called Lynn's 60 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: name and walked towards her, but that the woman didn't respond. 61 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: He said she got into a car and drove off. 62 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: Here's what Justice Ian Harrison said about Ray Butlin's evidence. 63 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: It is a ma of no controversy in these proceedings 64 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: that Lynette Dawson did not drive. Miss Butlin's alleged sighting 65 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: fleeting at best would place Lynette Dawson at the Culnara 66 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: fruit Barn getting into a car and driving off. Mister 67 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: Dawson has submitted that that expression is capable of accommodating 68 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: the concept that she got into a car and was 69 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: driven off. It follows that the woman seen by Miss Butlin, 70 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: having regarded the evidences, highly unlikely to have been Lynette 71 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: Dawson if she drove away by herself. 72 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: But in court on Monday, Belinda Rigg, the public defender 73 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: representing Chris Dawson in his appeal, said Sue Butlin's story 74 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: was quite extraordinary. One of the grounds of Dawson's appeal 75 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: is that he was at a significant forensic disadvantage in 76 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: proving his innocence because of the long delay in bringing 77 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: charges almost four decades We've used voice actors to bring 78 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: you the words spoken in court. 79 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: That's a very clear egis sample of a deceased person 80 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: whose evidence was crucial. That very type of detail has 81 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: been lost because of the delay. All we have is 82 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: an impoverished hearsay account from her former husband. 83 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: The Teacher's Pet creator Hedley Thomas wrote on Monday that 84 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: placing such weight on Sue Butler's account was a fool's 85 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: errand if for no other reason than Ray Butlin openly 86 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: admitted his wife was known to tell tall stories for attention. 87 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: He said as much at an inquest into Lynn's death 88 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: in two thousand and three, and her account of seeing 89 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: Lynn Sims at the fruit Barn on the New South 90 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: Wales central coast was just that hearsay or gossip or fantasy. 91 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: There's no documentary evidence of Sue Butlin's sighting because she 92 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: never gave police an official statement. It's not even clear 93 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: if police ever spoke to her. Detective Sergeant Paul Magar 94 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: from the New South Wales Homicide Squad said he couldn't 95 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: recall if it was followed up during the investigation he 96 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: pursued in the early nineties, but yet it was Sue 97 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:07,679 Speaker 1: Butlin's story that saw the investigation eventually abandoned. In making 98 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: his submissions to the court on Wednesday, Crown Prosecutor Brett 99 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: Hatfield said Justice Ian Harrison was right to dismiss Sue 100 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: Butlin's story. The reason Dawson cares so much about the 101 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: supposed sighting is because it would prove Lynn was alive 102 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: after January eighth, nineteen eighty two, when Harrison found she 103 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: was killed by Dawson. But Hatfield argued any accounts of sightings, 104 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: bank statements or phone calls from Lynn Dawson have come 105 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: either directly or indirectly from Chris Dawson. Don't forget. You 106 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: can access this kind of detailed news analysis and commentary 107 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: around the clock with a subscription to The Australian check 108 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: us out at the Australian dot com dot a U 109 00:06:52,400 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: We'll be back after this break. One of the most 110 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: important voices in this story is that of a teenage 111 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: babysitter known only as j C. Jace was a student 112 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: at school on Sydney's Northern Beaches where Chris Dawson taught 113 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: in the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties. She 114 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 1: came from a troubled home and lived at the house 115 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: at Bayview for a while at the end of nineteen 116 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: eighty one before Lynn Simms disappeared. She later married Chris 117 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: Dawson and they had a child together. Justice Ian Harrison 118 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: found the evidence given by j C a trial was credible, 119 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: and Chris Dawson's new barrister, Belinda Rigg, agreed he was 120 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: right to accept it, with one exception. Rigg argued on Monday, 121 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: Jac's account of Lynn's disappearance shouldn't be believed because her 122 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: story changed between the time she first gave a statement 123 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: to Belice and the trial in twenty twenty two. When 124 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: she spoke with Detective Damian Lune in nineteen ninety, j 125 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: C said words to the effect of Lin's gone come 126 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: back and stay with me. Some years later, she allegedly 127 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: told her friend, the author Rebecca Hazel, that Lynn had 128 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: taken some time away, and at trial, jac said Dawson 129 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: had collected her from a postgraduation trip to Southwest rox 130 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: with the intention of installing her at the family home 131 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: to function essentially as a wife to him and a 132 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: mother to his children. Rigg argued on Monday, Jace's original 133 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: account where she said Lynn's gone was the most accurate 134 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: because she'd repeatedly asked Dawson when Lynn would be returning. 135 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: But Justice Christine Adamson said those kinds of questions were 136 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: understandable for a teenager who wasn't at that time operating 137 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: under the assumption that Lynn was dead. We used voice 138 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: actors to bring you the words spoken in court. 139 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 4: Her evidence is that she asked the question when she 140 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 4: was absolutely at the end of her tether, because she 141 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: was eighteen years old and she's looking after a four 142 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 4: year old and a two year old twenty four and 143 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 4: living with the applicant. So the only reprieve from her 144 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 4: point of view is if the mother of these two 145 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: children comes back. It wasn't until later when j C 146 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 4: was in Queensland. I think that it occurred to her 147 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 4: as a possibility. 148 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: Justice Adamson is one of three Supreme Court justices hearing 149 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: Chris Dawson's appeal, along with Court of Appeal President Justice 150 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Julie Ward and Justice Anthony Payne. Belinda Rigg said on 151 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: Wednesday there were significant issues with Jc's credibility. The public 152 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: defender said Jace may have been motivated to retaliate against 153 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: Dawson following their divorce, and said her claim that Dawson 154 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: had attempted to hire a hitman to kill Lynn was extreme. 155 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 4: If one looks at the fundamentals of her evidence, they 156 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 4: were all supported. She was very, very significantly corroborated on 157 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 4: pretty much everything that mattered except the hit man, which 158 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 4: was rejected, and the Crown accepts we shouldn't take into account. 159 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: Justice Adamson added, judges have to be really, really sure 160 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: when they're considering this kind of evidence. 161 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 4: Which may explain why his honor cautiously and appropriately didn't 162 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: accept that evidence but accepted everything else. 163 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: When he read his judgment over six hours in twenty 164 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: twenty two, Justice Ian Harrison said repeatedly that it should 165 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: be taken in full. 166 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 3: However, my ultimate findings take account of all of the 167 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 3: evidence considered as a whole. 168 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: But in wrapping up his submissions on Thursday, Crown Prosecutor 169 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: Brett Hatfield said, in appealing his conviction on grounds relating 170 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: to very specific findings within the seven hundred plus paragraph judgment, 171 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: Chris Dawson's representatives were doing the opposite. The argument is 172 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: doing precisely what his Honor said shouldn't be done. Compartmentalizing 173 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: different sections of finding. The three justices have retired to 174 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: consider their decision on the appeal. While they're weighing up 175 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: if Dawson's conviction should be quashed. He'll remain incarcerated at 176 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: the Clarence Correctional Center near Gosford. Peter Dutton will deliver 177 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: his Budget reply speech in Parliament tonight. The Opposition leader 178 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: will focus on key issues like migration, housing, community safety 179 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: and the cost of living crisis. Come back to the 180 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: front tomorrow for our analysis and follow all the action 181 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: at the Australian dot com dot au