Speaker 1: Welcome to the Code NRL Show for another week with
Speaker 1: me as always, Michael Carrianas and Brent Reid. Guys, welcome.
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Speaker 1: a funny week. There's been little bits of news around.
Speaker 2: It's been swiped by the Swans.
Speaker 1: I've got to say that it's been swampwamped by the Swans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the crisis management of the Swans?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 1: No, seriously, I'm you know what, Dave?
Speaker 2: When you when the start, I was thinking maybe we
Speaker 2: should dig into the Swans.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not so much. I just think about League show,
Speaker 1: but I wonder about r L clubs are watching the
Speaker 1: way the Swan's handled the crisis this week. And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is, I reckon. I'm going to
Speaker 1: give I'm going to give the Swans a wrap on
Speaker 1: this front. They held a press conference yesterday that was Wednesday.
Speaker 1: This was a Sunday story that broke. They put the
Speaker 1: chairman and see up for a wide ranging press conference.
Speaker 1: Every question answered. So therefore, we've seen ERLD clubs in
Speaker 1: the past. They hang on to these things for so.
Speaker 2: Long, Dave, I reckon in the world clubs, as Mick
Speaker 2: drops his phone, I think ner old clubs are sitting
Speaker 2: back going thank god, it's not us. I don't think
Speaker 2: they're even looking at the Swans of how they've handled
Speaker 2: the situation.
Speaker 1: I think there's I.
Speaker 2: Think they're going I disagree. Thank god it's not.
Speaker 1: Rugby later Now I get that, of course, that.
Speaker 2: There's season's gone, they've stood down those they're gone, done dusted.
Speaker 2: The other thing too big to yawning is a big
Speaker 2: Swans fan.
Speaker 4: The other thing this is like obviously a serious matter.
Speaker 4: I'd heard of one of those players.
Speaker 1: Again, I'm not discussing the individuals. I'm discussing what NRL
Speaker 1: clubs learned from the other one. It was interesting, sting
Speaker 1: was that throughout this entire week none of the players
Speaker 1: or coaching staff have been wearing Swan's apparel, no sponsorships,
Speaker 1: no logos. All In effectively, they're Low's gear.
Speaker 2: Which is probably a smart idea because sponsors don't want
Speaker 2: to be dragged into this stuff. Yeah, it's hard to avoid,
Speaker 2: right because they're wearing.
Speaker 1: I think clubs follow suit on.
Speaker 2: That smart Well, hopefully we don't have to deal with
Speaker 2: the Dave. Hopefully our games mature enough and advanced enough
Speaker 2: we don't have this stuff happening. Yeah, it's been a while.
Speaker 1: Actually Touchwood, well we did have Toby Rudolph Mooning Mooning.
Speaker 2: Well, that's true, but that's that's a trivial. That's the
Speaker 2: scheme of things.
Speaker 1: That's that's a two hundred and twenty fine.
Speaker 2: I think that's neither here nor there right in the
Speaker 2: scheme of things.
Speaker 1: But hopefully you got at least for your dog, Mick.
Speaker 1: You're a dog lover.
Speaker 2: His dog is vicious too. You muzzle it, don't take
Speaker 2: it out. Yeah, it's about this Gray, It's about yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a great yeah, yeah, Collige. You had a greathound, whitehound.
Speaker 2: On a border Collie. They're not normally vicious topics reactive?
Speaker 2: Is it is that maybe because you've drawed talk.
Speaker 4: You've been over, he hasn't eaten you.
Speaker 2: He's got angry though. Anyway, where should we go with
Speaker 2: this date?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you where we're going to go. We're going
Speaker 1: to go down to the Nation's capital on Friday night.
Speaker 1: Because there's so many layers to this Raiders Broncos game. Firstly,
Speaker 1: the Great Josh Papa. It is the farewell game for Papa.
Speaker 1: Michael Carrianas has committed to one of the well He's
Speaker 1: written only about four features in his entire journalism career,
Speaker 1: and the fourth ones come through Papa. It's I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to read this piece.
Speaker 4: It is it is hard. As soon as I get over.
Speaker 1: He's not a feature. Papa's written this one for him.
Speaker 1: It was a great chat and I mean it by
Speaker 1: the quote.
Speaker 4: It was amazing, amazing, and you know, like it will
Speaker 4: sit there and dissects so many elements of his career,
Speaker 4: and you know, it's a good story about the stuff
Speaker 4: that you leave out that you can't even get to, right,
Speaker 4: amazing story.
Speaker 1: Like tell us the Tim tams story.
Speaker 4: Tim TAM's stories all time, right. So he they were
Speaker 4: playing at Brookie. He and Anthony Milford, his former teammates,
Speaker 4: sneak off as they see these these the doctor. The
Speaker 4: doctor had a packet of Tim Tamp's. So before the game,
Speaker 4: these blokes are stuff in their faces with Tim TAM's right,
Speaker 4: Ricky sees them, right, doesn't say anything. They're down by
Speaker 4: forty points at halftime.
Speaker 1: Ock, what do you think.
Speaker 4: Ricky said to him at half time? All right? And
Speaker 4: I can't repeat it on here because there's a few expletives.
Speaker 4: Pappa was dropped the next week.
Speaker 2: Didn't survive.
Speaker 4: He was out the door. That was his last year there.
Speaker 4: But there's all these sorts of stories drop. Ricky Stewart
Speaker 4: speaks to Ricky Stewart about him as well. It was
Speaker 4: one of the most candid. It was awesome chart, Like
Speaker 4: an amazing chart. He's had a and he's owned up
Speaker 4: to his mistakes, and he's made a few of them,
Speaker 4: no doubt, we speak about a couple of them. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a really good chart. So I see that online.
Speaker 2: Sports sports can lad of this game. This is the
Speaker 2: last time there's two sides met in the nation's capital.
Speaker 2: We all remember what happened. It was a disaster for
Speaker 2: camera basically cost them. I think a Grand final that
Speaker 2: game would if they win that game. I think they're
Speaker 2: playing the Grand Final right And obviously Rich Walsh went
Speaker 2: wild that day got the Broncos over the line. I'm
Speaker 2: sure do you reckon. They've discussed it all, you know,
Speaker 2: Ricky be.
Speaker 1: I will, I will promise you this. That result, there
Speaker 1: are members of the Ricky of the Ricky Steward of
Speaker 1: the Raiders that will never ever, ever, for the rest
Speaker 1: of their lives get over that result. And it rocks
Speaker 1: them to the core. And I've gotten no doubt in
Speaker 1: some way, some element it's it's played a role in
Speaker 1: this season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just couldn't get over it.
Speaker 1: Devastation really and I mean that they're just gusted by
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: Such a missed opportunity. Dave.
Speaker 4: That's there was so many twist happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so many twists and turns. The no try remember
Speaker 1: the Jed Stewart, Yeah, that decision that it went the
Speaker 1: ball went forward, they scored to try, the entire crowd
Speaker 1: of celebrating they're going through to the next week referee.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But to talk about it or to think this
Speaker 4: is even close to retribution, like not even close, Like.
Speaker 2: It's just you can for it that way.
Speaker 4: That annoys me when people sit there and go, do
Speaker 4: you think that whatever happened?
Speaker 2: Having the guardment for me saying the only, the only,
Speaker 2: But do you think it's not you don't think it's
Speaker 2: been thought about it all this week?
Speaker 4: Absolutely, maybe the players back of their minds.
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: It's irrelevant.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: The raid Ricky and the race.
Speaker 4: What I'm talking about when put fifty on them, put
Speaker 4: one hundred on them, it will not matter because it
Speaker 4: doesn't I'm close to what happened last year.
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of.
Speaker 4: Nothing, zero satisfaction. Brisbane won the comp last year.
Speaker 2: Remember hello Ron Coast fan, Please, I'm just saying you
Speaker 2: can never turn from what happened last year. But there's
Speaker 2: a little bit of satisfaction.
Speaker 1: Nothing.
Speaker 4: They could win by one hundred, right.
Speaker 2: I just said they win by one hundred. That wouldn't
Speaker 2: give them a little sense of satisfaction to make me
Speaker 2: a last year for what happened last year, not to
Speaker 2: make up last year for what happened last year. You're
Speaker 2: in an Entreas movie. You didn't sleep.
Speaker 4: The only way that even like you can, the only
Speaker 4: way you can get revenge back, right, which it doesn't
Speaker 4: really happen, right if you play, if you beat a
Speaker 4: side in a Grand final or corresponding game that you
Speaker 4: lost to, but they still won that game, so it
Speaker 4: doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: I think it matters to them. I would imagine it
Speaker 2: matters to them this week.
Speaker 4: That what happened last year.
Speaker 2: Yes, please Das. Basically he's basically remember twenty three why
Speaker 2: he knows.
Speaker 4: Why, and me just worry about your sharks, don't know
Speaker 4: about the rest.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, David. I think there's a little bit
Speaker 2: well I think it adds a little bit of extra,
Speaker 2: just a little to mention one percent, mate, whatever it is,
Speaker 2: one percent, two percent.
Speaker 1: Point point for telling you, I'm telling you that club
Speaker 1: whatever have been, they were shattered. I know I'm not
Speaker 1: devastating in any of them. When you're hurt by someone,
Speaker 1: you want to inflict pain.
Speaker 2: And I get that because right now I'm reporting ways
Speaker 2: I can inflict.
Speaker 4: But they could win by one hundred and it doesn't
Speaker 4: repair what happened last.
Speaker 2: Repair a me that's always saund doesn't even know what
Speaker 2: was saying.
Speaker 4: If a little broken heart and it's one hundred percent broken,
Speaker 4: it's still going to be one hundred percent breaken on
Speaker 4: Saturday morning when they wake.
Speaker 2: But there's still a little bit of satisfaction from sticking
Speaker 2: to to them.
Speaker 1: I think you're relevant, Yeah, I reckon they wish Reyese Walsh.
Speaker 2: Was playing interesting, Corey Hawes was back. Yeah, No, you
Speaker 2: don't think that's interesting.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's per interesting.
Speaker 2: It's all I'm going to give you a percentage of
Speaker 2: it's a little bit interesting.
Speaker 1: Do you think he was going for the years?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, I thought he'd come back. I thought he'd come
Speaker 2: back for this game because it's Papa's last game and
Speaker 2: obviously teammate has been a long time I thought he
Speaker 2: would play in this game. Yes, but it's still interesting,
Speaker 2: very interesting, even if it's only one percent more interesting
Speaker 2: than your last point.
Speaker 1: What if it does get ugly for the Broncos, can
Speaker 1: you get in the ugly like didn't last?
Speaker 4: It could get ugly.
Speaker 2: They're dragons are't going to win three, two or three
Speaker 2: more games. Let's I know you guys, your dragons lick
Speaker 2: spittles and you probably imagine they will, but they're not
Speaker 2: going to two or three more.
Speaker 4: Games will come last?
Speaker 2: Okay, so revelation there. They're in dire straits now what
Speaker 2: I mean? What are they won one of their last thirteen.
Speaker 1: One game since April.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty bad. Now, it's pretty dire, I think. Okay,
Speaker 2: it'll get it'll get one percent worse. If they lose
Speaker 2: by fifty, then it gets worse.
Speaker 1: What happens then, well.
Speaker 2: They're not going to sat the coach. He's going to
Speaker 2: finish the season, right of course, when do you get
Speaker 2: what do you do? Apart from that, Harvey Squad's injured.
Speaker 2: You can't really bring any player where he dropped. Tommy
Speaker 2: Duffy could probably bring him back. It's like a lamb
Speaker 2: to the slaughter. But what else do you do? You
Speaker 2: just got to get They just need to get through that.
Speaker 2: I've said this, get through the end of the season,
Speaker 2: the end of the season, sort out whatever your problem was.
Speaker 1: Do you think they'll do.
Speaker 2: I think they'll try and fix the problems. They don't.
Speaker 1: You don't think they'll announce an extension.
Speaker 4: No way it would be.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine a.
Speaker 1: Being so publicly outspoken.
Speaker 2: About Has anyone actually been quoted on.
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I think Carl was. I think Carl spoke around it,
Speaker 2: but I don't think he actually said we are extending. Michael,
Speaker 2: I can't remember dead match.
Speaker 4: You just can't.
Speaker 1: How can you not in this environment? No, you said
Speaker 1: you said it about six weeks ago.
Speaker 2: They could They could off tip the Broncos. I always do,
Speaker 2: but they could lose both. They could lose by forty
Speaker 2: down there you went to the first game.
Speaker 1: This is what this is why you're running last inn it?
Speaker 4: This is what did you win the comp last year?
Speaker 2: No, there came top three or something. But the Broncos
Speaker 2: had a good year this year had a bad year
Speaker 2: and run last every week.
Speaker 4: Mate.
Speaker 2: You've got to be loyal, mate, some loyal you guys
Speaker 2: have got that loyalty.
Speaker 1: Who you're dipping in this game? Camera camera for me, broncast.
Speaker 1: This is a huge game. Unfortunately Latrell Mitchell has failed
Speaker 1: in his attempt to get there. Fellows to get there
Speaker 1: back back next week.
Speaker 4: You're confident, very confident off the bench.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I don't know probably, but they'll
Speaker 2: be back next week, the big man.
Speaker 1: That's yeah. So no Latrell against the Warriors at a
Speaker 1: course stadium.
Speaker 4: In this match you had some yews around the Warriors.
Speaker 1: I did too. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, this is significant, right.
Speaker 1: So the Warriors have re signed Andrew Webster their head
Speaker 1: coach through until twenty thirty two.
Speaker 4: Guys, a good coach.
Speaker 1: The deal makes him the longest serving Warriors coach in
Speaker 1: their history if he gets there, which we anticipate he will.
Speaker 1: And secondly now the longest contracted coach in the NRL.
Speaker 1: That was previously Benji and Cameron Serraaldo. But really I
Speaker 1: thought it does come as a surprise. He's not off
Speaker 1: contract until the end of twenty eight. It's an extension
Speaker 1: through till thirty two. But the Warriors they're just they
Speaker 1: just do things based on stability. Yep. And this gives
Speaker 1: the club one direction. Every junior in the club knows
Speaker 1: exactly who the head coach is. Webster can make key
Speaker 1: recruitment decisions with Andrew McFadden the head of recruitment. Classy
Speaker 1: moved by the Warriors.
Speaker 4: Great coin. Unlike the situation around Benji earlier, the back
Speaker 4: end of last year is the fact that you know,
Speaker 4: if Andrew Webster had hit the open market, or even
Speaker 4: if he's not on the market, clubs would have been
Speaker 4: circling him. Yeah right, And you know the twenty eight
Speaker 4: there's a new probably a New Zealand side in twenty nine,
Speaker 4: so that puts to bed any chance, even though that
Speaker 4: would have been a small chance, but any chance that
Speaker 4: they make a play whoever that new side is, make
Speaker 4: a play for Andrew Webster. Great core, great coach.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I get a bit frustrated with this suggestion that
Speaker 2: giving a coach a long term deal gives a club stability.
Speaker 2: Yeah it doesn't. It gives a club stability as winning, right,
Speaker 2: That's what Andrew webs has done really well. He wins.
Speaker 2: So okay, they're giving you twenty thirty two. But the
Speaker 2: only way sees it out if he keeps winning, right.
Speaker 1: But what about the point around the fact that he
Speaker 1: was they're safeguarding themselves from a play from the Eels
Speaker 1: the West Tiger.
Speaker 4: That's the point, that's my point, right Potentially, that's part
Speaker 4: of it is the fact that if he was on,
Speaker 4: even if he's not on the open market, like, he'd
Speaker 4: be one of the coaches that would be in demand.
Speaker 4: So that's what it is. You own about stability. I
Speaker 4: know what you're saying in that instance, but this is different.
Speaker 4: This is this is not.
Speaker 2: Around the hands off the thing, man.
Speaker 4: It is it is you know, they've shown faith and gone, well,
Speaker 4: he's not going anywhere. And all these long term contracts,
Speaker 4: all that matters is the power clause exactly right, if
Speaker 4: it's six months, twelve months and two years, three years,
Speaker 4: or he paid him full right like otherwise you can
Speaker 4: have a contract for ten years with a six month
Speaker 4: power cause it's irrelevant how long the length of the
Speaker 4: deal is. So that's and there'd be a safeguard mechanism
Speaker 4: in there for sure for the Warriors because it's such
Speaker 4: a long term deal. But I think it's good business
Speaker 4: because he's a coach that will be in demand.
Speaker 2: And they're not going to look I mean, I said
Speaker 2: that right about stability. The only thing that produces stability
Speaker 2: is winning. He's going to keep winning because he's a
Speaker 2: very good coach and they're a juggernaut over such a
Speaker 2: juggernaut over there. The Warrior is going to be a
Speaker 2: force forget about for the next four years, for the
Speaker 2: next ten years, for the next twenty years because they've
Speaker 2: just got things right. Cameron George has got things right
Speaker 2: over there. Andrew Webbs has got things right over there.
Speaker 2: There are a model that other clubs need to replicate.
Speaker 2: We've seen there's somebody clubs in this game who are
Speaker 2: battling at the moment. You know, the Warriors model is perfect.
Speaker 2: He's a great coach. They're killing it. They could win
Speaker 2: a comp this year and I never thought. I didn't
Speaker 2: think that before the season started.
Speaker 1: For everything we're saying about the Wars Bunnies, fans want
Speaker 1: to want them beat the Bunnies. They want to beat this.
Speaker 2: I give him a hope.
Speaker 1: I actually think this is well with no So Luke
Speaker 1: Hanson the young half in the New South Wales Cup
Speaker 1: and comes into the side.
Speaker 2: Who signed.
Speaker 4: To a peaky back, a fullback. You sit there now
Speaker 4: you look at their halves choices. Obviously Tomorrow gone, Tanner
Speaker 4: Boy gone, Look Metcalf gone. Chance would have been probably
Speaker 4: in the half. So they're up to their fifth choice.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cody Walker's in did something on Cody Walker earlier
Speaker 2: this week, Dave and I reckon Cody deserves a bit
Speaker 2: of a rap. We were quite critical of him five
Speaker 2: six weeks ago when the last out of Jack Cogar
Speaker 2: got suspended for a week. He's this one was poor.
Speaker 2: Everyone was quite critical of Cody the ways we bounced
Speaker 2: back from that. His past five games, I think he's
Speaker 2: had eight trice is. You know, he's playing out of
Speaker 2: his skin. He's got them back in finals contention. You know,
Speaker 2: they basically almost booked a finals birth. Now, a lot
Speaker 2: of that's on the back of Cody. So think I
Speaker 2: reckon Cody deserves a bit of a rap.
Speaker 4: Courdy and Matt Dufty, Yeah, the combination with the footy
Speaker 4: and their ability at the moment to shift and play
Speaker 4: with speed and Cody's you know, Cody is still such
Speaker 4: an elusive threat with the boar and Matt Dufty is
Speaker 4: Matt Dufty is Like I watched a lot of Matt
Speaker 4: Dufty as a kid coming up through the through the grays,
Speaker 4: like so I coached and he was the year not
Speaker 4: didn't coaching. I stopped talking. He was in the year above,
Speaker 4: like I was at Kingsgrave Hills at Panzas year above.
Speaker 4: So I watched a lot of him, and he was
Speaker 4: this standout talent, this great kid. They came through and
Speaker 4: he just never did the tough stuff, even at that age, right,
Speaker 4: he just was so great with the footy And what
Speaker 4: are you laughing at?
Speaker 2: So you say you coached, you coached the year below him,
Speaker 2: or you played the year blowing I coached.
Speaker 4: I didn't play against him much younger than me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but watching him through the grades and even when he
Speaker 4: came into first grade, he had these flashy bits abrilliance,
Speaker 4: but if an error went against him, he'd never seen
Speaker 4: him for the rest of the game.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: But now is his decision making is elite. But his toughness,
Speaker 4: which was not there right is there now He's Cody
Speaker 4: Ramsey is the best story of this year in terms
Speaker 4: of comebacks, clearly Matt Dufty's second.
Speaker 2: Did you have a coach against him, Matt Dufty.
Speaker 1: No, boys, I want to tell you why I was intrigued.
Speaker 2: What the tip shee would have said?
Speaker 4: Tip sheet was just the run at him because you
Speaker 4: couldn't you just yeah, defensively he played five day or
Speaker 4: full back.
Speaker 1: We just spoke with Andrew Webster. He'll be genuine Dallium
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year contender. I want to tell you
Speaker 1: why Wayne Bennett is a sleeper for Dallim Coach of
Speaker 1: the Year because he's asleep.
Speaker 4: He sleeps in meetings, Oh he does. He doesn't sleep
Speaker 4: in video sessions.
Speaker 1: You cover yourself, mate, go easy.
Speaker 4: What about Gus? Your hate on Gus?
Speaker 3: Mate?
Speaker 4: Let's get there soon.
Speaker 1: Boys, Wayne Bannet's a sleeper for the Dallim Coach of
Speaker 1: the Year. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 4: Tell me.
Speaker 1: They suffered a tremendous tragedy in the early preseason of
Speaker 1: November last year with young Johannes Slogan taking his life.
Speaker 1: That impacted the dressing room immensely and still is. We
Speaker 1: have the gro situation absolutely devastating. How does a coach
Speaker 1: combat that? How do a team of players combat that?
Speaker 1: They've been able to do it? You've touched on Cody Walker.
Speaker 1: He's not getting any younger yet. Here he is playing
Speaker 1: the best footy at the right time of the season.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. They've had seven different spine combinations
Speaker 1: throughout the entire season. Seven. So we talk about what
Speaker 1: the Warriors are going through with the changes. The Bunnies
Speaker 1: have been scratching around trying to find their best spine
Speaker 1: all year and that is hard to do and still
Speaker 1: be in finals contention. They've done it on top of
Speaker 1: key injury of course, to the big gun Latrell Mitchell.
Speaker 1: And here they are points well made, Dave. Here they
Speaker 1: are in finals.
Speaker 2: So here's your coach of the year.
Speaker 1: He's the sleeper.
Speaker 2: What about Trent Robinson.
Speaker 4: That's like, let's let's rewind a little bit. Good points, Dave.
Speaker 1: You are going to come with me or not? On Wayne,
Speaker 1: Has any coach.
Speaker 2: He's done a great job?
Speaker 1: Hasn't. But I'm talking about great job. But they're huge
Speaker 1: hurdles to just I.
Speaker 2: Agree with you. Addressing the Hannah slogan one, Dave, we
Speaker 2: spoke to some of the players at South about that
Speaker 2: late last year. Some of those bookes Joe Gray for example,
Speaker 2: like they were thick as thieves, Willam LeBlanc. So you're
Speaker 2: right about how that impacted the group, right.
Speaker 1: Diagnosis huge huge, It didn't impact sounds did impact the.
Speaker 2: Entire a lot of try. You make a lot of
Speaker 2: good points.
Speaker 1: We always talk about fullbacks and you guys have just
Speaker 1: wrapped the hell out of Matt Darty. The guys come
Speaker 1: from the UK Super League and replaced I would say
Speaker 1: their most influential attacking player last season, Joe Gray, and
Speaker 1: sure enough they've done it and here they are seeing
Speaker 1: the seventh with a genuine chance to beat the Warriors.
Speaker 2: The Queens end coach as well.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Wayne, I wouldn't be surprised if he's got
Speaker 1: the daim Coach of the Year.
Speaker 2: I go back to my point, he might not be there.
Speaker 1: He might up with my dressing. His behalf might all
Speaker 1: accepted on behind.
Speaker 2: Coming back to my point, you mentioned Andrew Webster, you
Speaker 2: mentioned Wayne, Justin Holbrook. Justin Holbrook? Are you Brush and Robbie?
Speaker 2: They could win the minor Premiership.
Speaker 1: I come back to rosters for dallim coach of the Year.
Speaker 4: I'm with Dave, are you really my Wholebrook? I've got
Speaker 4: Holbrook ahead of Trent Robinson. I like the Wayne point.
Speaker 4: I do like the Wayne point.
Speaker 1: There are unbelievable hurdles South Warriors. Who are you tipping
Speaker 1: Boys Warriors? But Bunnies by a point? Super tight fellas.
Speaker 1: The last game on Saturday night is the Red v
Speaker 1: versus the Bulldogs the Dragons Doggies. I think this will
Speaker 1: be tight given the way s George La were coming
Speaker 1: together when it matter, when it matters. At the back
Speaker 1: end of this season, No Guffo gone for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. Now he's undergone knee season ending knee surgery.
Speaker 1: Does that impact Guffo next year?
Speaker 4: No, not at this stage.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Obviously there's been some minuendo about Clink Cotherston and he's
Speaker 4: he's from you future season guilty and but yeah, he's
Speaker 4: intimated to the club that he wants to play on
Speaker 4: If the surgery is success, he'll be there to start
Speaker 4: pre season training.
Speaker 1: Daniel Atkinson's full back year.
Speaker 2: He was good last week, really good.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Is he free to go? He's free to go? Right
Speaker 2: or not?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think so. Okay, Well, like I don't think
Speaker 1: he's been informed you can go now?
Speaker 4: No, of course not. No, No, he hasn't been and
Speaker 4: I think he does want to go, he hasn't been
Speaker 4: he hasn't been given permission.
Speaker 1: But the interesting interesting.
Speaker 4: To get around the dragons as well is that you
Speaker 4: know there is something uncertainty around Luke Metcalf given his
Speaker 4: lack of durability.
Speaker 1: What what we.
Speaker 4: Just did his hammy again.
Speaker 1: Where's the uncertainty coming from? Which is obvious his physic
Speaker 1: physical prowess.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's by Atkinson's good depth.
Speaker 4: That's what good insurance. Now, if you had any thoughts
Speaker 4: of moving Kyle Daniel like you got to be Yeah,
Speaker 4: you have to because of you know, the fact that
Speaker 4: Luke has struggled to he hasn't played fifty first grade
Speaker 4: games yet, right, Like, it's a concern and it's that
Speaker 4: were terrible scenes and it's obviously sad and things like that.
Speaker 4: But you've got to be silly business. You've got to
Speaker 4: be silly not to go. Well, there are some concerns, right,
Speaker 4: And I'm not knocking to sign in at all.
Speaker 1: Have you spoken to anyone at Saints about you? No,
Speaker 1: that's your point of view.
Speaker 4: What's but it's it's what there's no opinion. You guys
Speaker 4: don't think it's obvious that there's concerns around his ability
Speaker 4: to play a full season. Yeah, of course, Okay, like
Speaker 4: it's a revelation.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to understand your point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'll tell you what I'm doing. I'm not
Speaker 4: letting him ever goal kick ever again ever. Not even
Speaker 4: look at goal kicking, right, not even contemplate, no reps
Speaker 4: because they've got drink water when the goalkick, you say,
Speaker 4: don't even look at it. Look at don't even look
Speaker 4: at it because you know when Chanelle's taking the kigs.
Speaker 2: He's got stuck around Price back in the day with me.
Speaker 4: Who's with me on that?
Speaker 1: Will come with you on that?
Speaker 4: That's good shout because you know you can't put him
Speaker 4: in cotton. Will you need like you know, even around
Speaker 4: moving positions. It's irrelevant r because it still needs to run.
Speaker 4: It's just those reps that you do at training and
Speaker 4: all the hours just wipe it out.
Speaker 2: What about the mod their upper against I think the
Speaker 2: greatest indictment of the Bulldogs is some people consider this
Speaker 2: game and even money better. I mean they should the Dogs,
Speaker 2: based on the start out, the expectation right around the
Speaker 2: two footy clubs should win this in the canter Really.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say you can't win on games on expectation.
Speaker 2: What's that on the expectation around the footage side of
Speaker 2: the start?
Speaker 1: I think what you're trying to say the roster mate
Speaker 1: the roster, well, I don't think the Preston, Crichton, Burton yep,
Speaker 1: Coraz Galvin yep. In the front, in the pack, Lea
Speaker 1: Thompson yep. There you go, that's your expectation.
Speaker 2: They should win the cannon. But there we've spoken about
Speaker 2: this team's roster and the way they've got things wrong,
Speaker 2: completely out of whack, and that gives the Dragons a hope.
Speaker 4: I reckon don't give the Dragons.
Speaker 1: I think can of course, but beknoa two weeks ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're finding different ways to win.
Speaker 4: They are. They are, They're going good, They're going good.
Speaker 2: Dogs are finding good ways to lose.
Speaker 1: Yes, they are. And I'll tell you one thing I
Speaker 1: mentioned the Raiders earlier about the devastation of the Broncos
Speaker 1: lost in last year's finals. I'm telling you the way
Speaker 1: the Dogs dived nose dived after leading, Correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I think it was fourteen four or fourteen
Speaker 1: eight against the Roosters two weeks ago and lost that game.
Speaker 1: It ripped out their soul.
Speaker 4: Las Vegas Revenge game two, it ripped out their soul.
Speaker 4: They were divenge for Vegas.
Speaker 2: They should have won that and you saw the route.
Speaker 1: Out last week, devoid of energy because they watched their
Speaker 1: top eight claims fall away in twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: You know what, We're talking about the Broncos having a
Speaker 2: huge off season, right, and they do have one. The
Speaker 2: Dog's got a huge off season as well, for different reasons, right.
Speaker 2: I think they're obviously this season hasn't mean it's devastating
Speaker 2: as Brisbane, yeah, but it's been an enormous leadown.
Speaker 4: You just want to start the preseason or get to
Speaker 4: Christmas and go, well, this is our one six seven.
Speaker 1: Nine and this is the way we're trucking.
Speaker 4: We're going to stay potentially stay with it for the
Speaker 4: season bar an injury. Right.
Speaker 2: But I don't think the problem is I don't think
Speaker 2: they've got a one six seven line you can confidently
Speaker 2: predict before the This will.
Speaker 4: Not saying that for.
Speaker 1: Now Dogs dogs for me, Dogs guys. I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit surprised Trent Robinson didn't rest a couple here against
Speaker 1: the West Tigers opportunity a premierhire. They they play the
Speaker 1: Dolphins next week. Premiership Did you say the minor premierships
Speaker 1: on the line.
Speaker 4: Well, they want to win.
Speaker 1: They've proven they can win without Todayskka. Yeah, Sammy Walker,
Speaker 1: you could play Hugo Savalla in the hearts.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I still want to win, make sure
Speaker 4: they win. They could run out third stringers and win.
Speaker 1: Dave Radia, you're worried about the Tigers in this game.
Speaker 2: Of course. Yeah, the way they're going and the way
Speaker 2: the Roosts are going, definitely worried about Definitely.
Speaker 1: Do he's gone for the rest of the season. Guys
Speaker 1: undergone shoulder surgery.
Speaker 4: Two weeks too late, two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Why the time that was Jock Madden and Jerome Lewie
Speaker 1: in the halves now, yep. I think it's a shame
Speaker 1: that they haven't been able to relegate. Loui Giovanni. You
Speaker 1: can't play against the Roosters.
Speaker 4: Now, you can say on the back of do well, yeah,
Speaker 4: but you're gonna play them this week against the Roosters
Speaker 4: the next two weeks. I could not even contemplate playing
Speaker 4: that kid against the You just couldn't.
Speaker 2: Ben I don't think Benji did contemplate.
Speaker 4: It's the right call. Even thinking it is the right call.
Speaker 4: They play the Cowboys away next week, so that's probably
Speaker 4: not in my till time to give young time. And
Speaker 4: then they played Pedroth. Wow, I wouldn't be let him play.
Speaker 4: Imagine the scar in for the poor kid.
Speaker 1: Tiger is going to be in a worse state next
Speaker 1: year or better state next year.
Speaker 2: I think that'll be better. I think they'll get some
Speaker 2: bodies back by pissed Paul Taylor may take Caulo comes in.
Speaker 4: What's going to take it? What's it going to take
Speaker 4: for you to jump off the bus?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Someone's got to give him some love.
Speaker 2: There's no love for the Tigers.
Speaker 1: Give him someone's could I wrapped them the like? Listen one, listen,
Speaker 1: five of them?
Speaker 2: Listen. Can ask you this, yes, do you think there'll
Speaker 2: be any worse with Jerome lew leaving at the end
Speaker 2: of the year.
Speaker 4: I don't think they'll be better.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll be better. But I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying, because do you think you'll be better?
Speaker 2: Saying I'm saying Jerome's not playing great? No, But do
Speaker 2: you think they'll be better with Kye pissed Paul, back
Speaker 2: with Taylor May, back with Charine Bull of fit because
Speaker 2: it's clearly not do we fit with Jake All playing
Speaker 2: James Brawley there and then and then why would I
Speaker 2: not think.
Speaker 1: They could be? What happens? Because then the finals, because
Speaker 1: it's twenty seven round season. Like I keep reminding you,
Speaker 1: is did what happens if one of those four?
Speaker 4: I think dragons be tigers. Dragons will finish headed tigers
Speaker 4: next year the ladder.
Speaker 1: You're with me, you know what's really interrupted. I'm saying
Speaker 1: you're rattling off these names, but you're saying that they'll
Speaker 1: never get injured next year.
Speaker 2: Maybe sometimes it goes in cycles. They get a bad
Speaker 2: year with injuries this year, maybe next year they have
Speaker 2: a good year.
Speaker 4: They have had a bad injury run to keep to
Speaker 4: keep players, no doubt, But it's still their lack of
Speaker 4: effort and their lack of desire, the lack of energy,
Speaker 4: which has been a concern. But it's not just now.
Speaker 4: It's in the past two months.
Speaker 2: It's all gone pear shaped micks and they need again
Speaker 2: a bit like the Broncos and some of these other teams.
Speaker 2: They just need an off season, work it out, get
Speaker 2: it get these new bodies in, get blokes fit again.
Speaker 4: They just need to keep rins and repeat and get
Speaker 4: some point.
Speaker 2: The cycle has got to win Mick something at some.
Speaker 4: Point and then you'll be vindicated.
Speaker 1: You've got to earn love. You got to earn love.
Speaker 1: I haven't earned it.
Speaker 2: Okay, bikes seem to love on the dragons. They're above
Speaker 2: them on the ladders. That love come from the dragons.
Speaker 4: Deserved dragons deserved to be lovey. Yeah, this has been
Speaker 4: a disgraceful season from the dragons.
Speaker 2: Were giving them loads of love.
Speaker 4: The better places than the Tigers next year.
Speaker 2: Yes, well we've had a wager on that.
Speaker 4: You disagree, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: Really though, who are you tipping in this game? Ready?
Speaker 4: Off, roosters, what's the margin? What's the margin?
Speaker 1: Roosters?
Speaker 2: What margin would you give? Thirty thirty twenty five, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty DC late field goal?
Speaker 1: It's that time a week, but yes, message of the week.
Speaker 1: Time those soft calls, the dodgy reviews, the by rounds,
Speaker 1: nobody wanted. You know, we're asking you to call it out.
Speaker 2: Dave, I got called.
Speaker 1: I've got to go to coach sports dot com dom Yeah,
Speaker 1: coachboards dot com, toda you and just vent just vent
Speaker 1: at us.
Speaker 2: I put a shout out in social media, got a
Speaker 2: lot of responses.
Speaker 1: You took over?
Speaker 2: Yeah, can I throw this from now? A lot of
Speaker 2: rude ones to disrupt the rule? Who came up with it?
Speaker 2: The six man bench? This is some blood sky? How
Speaker 2: do we? How do we get rid of both? Disrupted rule?
Speaker 2: The six men bench? Not happy blood sky.
Speaker 4: Disruptors just the punish of a rule. I agree, quite
Speaker 4: obvious for the players not making a player for the
Speaker 4: ball penalty like it's not that hard but one hand,
Speaker 4: two hand, Gibb, I don't really know just if you're
Speaker 4: not playing for the ball. And then six man bench,
Speaker 4: I don't know that's going anywhere.
Speaker 2: What about this one? Okay? Vers is from D. The
Speaker 2: constant criticism Madge by you in the media, Oh by you,
Speaker 2: but apparently me and the media to target an attack, Well.
Speaker 1: No, it's not, no, D, it's not a target.
Speaker 2: It's based on results. One of thirteen. Lare staying the
Speaker 2: road at home? D chill out?
Speaker 1: Didn't we weren't criticizing Madge last year match first coach
Speaker 1: to win cus.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's another one from ah ah a Handbone seventy three.
Speaker 2: I'm going to clean it up because the language is
Speaker 2: a bit colorful, bit fruity. Yeah. Ready, what the hell
Speaker 2: are Paramatta doing in the recruiting space?
Speaker 1: A good question.
Speaker 2: We recruit no one and play overs for mediocre? What's
Speaker 2: the plan? I'm going to bridge it because there's a
Speaker 2: bit more.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Jaden a good player.
Speaker 2: What's going on there?
Speaker 1: They need they need to sort out what they're doing
Speaker 1: in the in the forward pack. They got outside back problems,
Speaker 1: and I haven't seen any glimmer of hope that anything's
Speaker 1: going to change.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you one more. This is some
Speaker 2: wes ogie. Hey, Brent Reid, just got a question for
Speaker 2: you here, mate, Why are you such a winker?
Speaker 1: That's a good question.
Speaker 2: It's a fair question.
Speaker 4: Polarize people a little bit. You are a good fellow,
Speaker 4: though I think I'm okay.
Speaker 1: Great debate that can we say?
Speaker 2: It's a little bit harsh, jem. I can read some
Speaker 2: more abusive ones. If you're like, okay, one more.
Speaker 1: It's good to see you've gone to the gutter of
Speaker 1: social media and this is.
Speaker 2: Some beach road. Beach road f off you maggot, I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. That's oh cool.
Speaker 1: This is the platform for the fans to vent event.
Speaker 2: You thanks for your contribution. That's great.
Speaker 1: That's enough.
Speaker 2: You don't want anymore. I'll give you the other one
Speaker 2: without this one. Okay, this is from Anastasios Zeno five.
Speaker 2: I call bs that you are a sports journalist. That's clever.
Speaker 2: That's very clever, Very good. Keep them coming, maybe not
Speaker 2: as many abusive ones.
Speaker 1: Cod sports dot com dot a. You go and leave
Speaker 1: your message for readie telling anything you want