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Speaker 1: the news from the Australian. From The Australian, I'm Claire Harvey.

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Speaker 1: A special bonus episode of The Front for you today.

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Speaker 1: It's the third in a special series of essays penned

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Speaker 1: by a handful of extraordinary Australians. We've asked them to

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Speaker 1: reflect on the defining themes of the past six decades

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Speaker 1: in honor of The Australian's sixtieth anniversary. In today's episode,

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Speaker 1: Australian Tamil lawyer and author Shankri Chandren on feminism, womanhood

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Speaker 1: and identity growing up between the expectations of her traditional

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Speaker 1: Tamil culture and Australian suburbia. Have shared Hunkri Children's perspective

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Speaker 1: on what it means to be a woman. That's today's episode.

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Speaker 2: As a teenager, I vividly remember my father showing me

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Speaker 2: the door of the family surgery. There was a sign

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Speaker 2: that bore his name, my mother's and their medical qualifications

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Speaker 2: earned despite ethnic conflict, forced migration and the challenges of

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Speaker 2: a new country.

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Speaker 1: This is Chunkri Chandren reading an excerpt from an essay

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Speaker 1: she's written for The Australian.

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Speaker 2: He said, pointing to the sign there's space for you two.

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Speaker 2: My mother smiled and nodded her agreement. While this is

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Speaker 2: obviously a lot of pressure to place on a thirteen

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Speaker 2: year old and an approach not recommended in today's parenting handbooks,

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Speaker 2: I remember my heart expanding with pride. My parents thought

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Speaker 2: I could do anything. In their minds, gender would not

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Speaker 2: limit the fulfillment of my potential.

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Speaker 1: Born in the late seventies, Schunkri Chandren is the child

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Speaker 1: of Tamil Sri Lankan immigrants who came to Australia via

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Speaker 1: London and settled in Canberra. After earning a degree from

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Speaker 1: the University of New South Wales, Children headed back to

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Speaker 1: London and worked as a human rights lawyer for the

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Speaker 1: next two decades, formulating assistance for people facing some of

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Speaker 1: humanity's greatest challenges. Children now lives in Sydney with her family,

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Speaker 1: her husband, three sons and one daughter. These days she

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Speaker 1: writes novels. Her third Chai Time at Cinnamon Gardens, was

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Speaker 1: published in twenty twenty two and won the prestigious Miles

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Speaker 1: Franklin Literary Award. A year later. Song of the Sun God,

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Speaker 1: published back in twenty seventeen, is being given the TV

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Speaker 1: treatment in an adaptation starring Bridgeton's truthra children only hope

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Speaker 1: they like me. All you have to do this evening

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Speaker 1: is remember what it is you're looking for, someone charming

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Speaker 1: and handsome. Of course, for all her challenges and achievements,

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Speaker 1: Shunkri Chundren says, surviving year nine is up there. It's

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Speaker 1: a perfect storm of hormones and gossip and popularity. To

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Speaker 1: use her word, it's a shit show. But it's also

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Speaker 1: the year when the realization dawned on children that she

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Speaker 1: had a foot in two worlds.

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Speaker 2: My generation was the first to be raised in the

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Speaker 2: refuge of Australian My family was the migrant paradox. Came

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Speaker 2: to contribute to their new home, to fit in and

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Speaker 2: remain unnoticed. They were also afraid that we would completely assimilate.

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Speaker 2: They often clung to cultural practices, including the gendered ones

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Speaker 2: that even in Sri Lanka have been changed or discarded.

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Speaker 2: We existed in a cultural time capsule.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere in the middle was her fledgling definition of womanhood.

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Speaker 2: And so it became an unhappy time. It became a

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Speaker 2: time where I was almost afraid to go to school

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Speaker 2: and unsure of how to be myself because myself was

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Speaker 2: so different from the experiences of my friends. Myself and

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Speaker 2: my experience of my life was culturally insular and yet

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Speaker 2: culturally rich. So we were isolated from in many ways

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Speaker 1: Chankrije hundred believes it's the friendships that survived that hellish

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Speaker 2: And so these girls that I had such a fraught

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Speaker 2: that have enabled me and supported me to be my

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Speaker 2: kind of woman. And so they accept me for my feminism,

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Speaker 2: for my womanhood, for my motherhood, and for my professional accomplishments.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to try it to cry because I love

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Speaker 2: them so much and I think it's it is incredible,

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Speaker 1: The author's upbringing has made her uniquely aware of the

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Speaker 1: successes and the shortcomings of mainstream feminism.

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Speaker 2: It's actually hugely validating for me writing this essay, but

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Speaker 2: then having other people, particularly I think women from migrant backgrounds,

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Speaker 2: my own experience is ignored, and more so than that,

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Speaker 2: I think the experience of vulnerable women, more women that

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Speaker 2: from that public narrative and that public debate, and we

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Speaker 2: end up relying on fascinations women to advocate and to

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Speaker 2: do such heavy lifting, up expecting every woman of every

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Speaker 2: those platforms for feminism and for women for womanhood are

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Speaker 2: already occupied and dominated by a certain kind of woman,

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Speaker 1: What's Star Wars got to do with feminism? The Australian

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Speaker 1: has been asking the tough questions for the past six

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Speaker 1: decades and subscribers get breaking news, lively commentary and in

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Speaker 1: depth analysis. First check us out at the Australian dot

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Speaker 1: com dot au and we'll be back after this break.

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Speaker 1: Chankri Chandrin is a serious Star Wars fan. There are

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Speaker 1: four references to the iconic Space opera in the essay

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Speaker 1: she's written about feminism, womanhood and identity for The Australian.

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Speaker 2: If Princess Leiah could lead a rebellion, so could I.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty impressive average for a two thousand word

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Speaker 1: essay that's not actually about Star Wars, but it does

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Speaker 1: serve a purpose. Her fandom is an important part of

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Speaker 1: her identity and it punctuates important points about womanhood and

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Speaker 1: the ways it intersects with her Tamil culture.

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Speaker 2: My husband, who undoubtedly married me for my mind, my

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Speaker 2: skill with a lightsaber, and my charming sense of humor,

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Speaker 2: did not enter our marriage with Tamil expectations of Tamil women.

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Speaker 1: I did. Becoming a wife and better mother has prompted

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Speaker 1: Shannkri children to reevaluate certain aspects of her culture that

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Speaker 2: Over time, I've lent to deprogram and delete some of

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Speaker 2: these expectations of myself so that I do not pass

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Speaker 1: Her daughter children rights is encouraged to attend temple on

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Speaker 1: any day of the month, except when a new Star

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Speaker 1: not a restriction Shunkri Children feels is necessary for a

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Speaker 1: daughter who's engaged with her culture.

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Speaker 2: Women bleed and therefore we can conceive if old Hindu

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Speaker 2: men want more Hindu babies, then the singularly female ability

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Speaker 1: Chankri Chandren's daughter, born and raised in Australia but immersed

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Speaker 1: She dresses in a way that's both on trend and

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Speaker 1: have triggered a nationwide auntie alarm.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, So the auntie alarm in the Sri

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Speaker 2: the diaspora is absolutely incredible. It is a network of

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Speaker 2: aunties around the country and around the world who know

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Speaker 2: Sri Lankan thumb will Auntie the next one over to

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Speaker 1: Children doesn't begrudge the auntie's well intentioned meddling, but she

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Speaker 1: considers her daughter's modern, unconstrained expression of femininity to be

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Speaker 2: When I look at my child, I am instead relieved

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Speaker 2: because I know her well enough to know that she

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Speaker 2: respects her body, she is comfortable with how she looks,

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Speaker 2: and she asserts that comfort and confidence and expresses herself

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Speaker 1: You can read Chunkri Chandren's essay on feminism, womanhood and

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Speaker 1: identity right now at the Australian dot com dot au.

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