WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 13 May 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:06.840 From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live, thank you, 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.280 to make a history making day for the Liberal Party 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.320 at tonight. A person who may have a little advice 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:14.440 as to what their new leaders should do. A happy 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:18.560 warrior in UK politics who has championed a need for 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:24.040 serious dealings with cultural issues and immigration, so much so 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.680 that even a lefty prime minister in Keir Starmer is 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.440 starting to sound like Nigel Farage. But only Nigel Farage 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:33.360 is Nigel Faraj and he is on our program tonight, 0:00:33.440 --> 0:00:35.960 really looking forward to that conversation. Probably don't break the 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:38.720 cameras next on, guys, you could hear that cracking, all right. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.239 So let us get to today and the news of 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.960 the day where the Prime Minister was sworn in along 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:50.040 with many of his minister's assistant ministers, etc. Etc. And 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.880 this does make me need to breathe some life into 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.320 an old nickname that I had for the Prime Minister, 0:00:57.200 --> 0:01:02.320 which was each way Albow. Now in twenty and twenty two, 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.480 we've got to go way back to one of his 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.960 first days as Prime minister to show you when he 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.600 was sworn in in twenty twenty two, different governor General, 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.000 same Prime minister and a decision not to place a 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.920 hand on the Bible, instead to take what it's called 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:18.360 the oath of affirmation. Now, as you know, I'm not 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.199 a person of faith, but I have respect for people 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.240 of faith, and I would assume that if you're a 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.560 person of faith, then not taking the non believer's affirmation 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.840 is not the most ultimate way of saying that to 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.560 the Higher Power, I surrender and I swear before in 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.360 terms of the commitment that is about to be made 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:41.240 to the country. But Anthony Alberinezi made the decision in 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:45.240 twenty twenty two that he would take the oath not sorry, 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.000 to take the affirmation, not the oath, not have a Bible, 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.760 rather than take the oath and have the Bible. This 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.960 was interesting. It was even noted by the scribes at 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.360 the time that he had decided to take the secular 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:05.560 affirmation other than swearing before God the Catholic Weekly, which 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.720 I'll be honest I don't read often, but still they 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.119 noted here that the Bible is out and the affirmation 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:14.040 is in. Anthony Aberezi has raised eyebrows across several religious 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.120 groups just seconds into taking office by selecting to be 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:21.400 sworn in as a as Prime minister by making way sorry, 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:25.280 by way of making a secular affirmation without reference to God, 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:30.880 rather than taking an oath on the Bible. Now, this 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:34.320 version of each way Albo goes even further back than 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.720 twenty twenty two. You see. One of the reasons the 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:40.080 Labor Party was able to convince itself that it lost 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.960 in twenty nineteen because it clearly, they say, wasn't their 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.720 climate policies. They kept those. Remember they just told you 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.920 two seventy five and one hundreds of thousands of jobs. 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:50.440 No. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.320 One of the reasons, according to their review, was that 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:59.040 Scott Morrison visibly believed in God. That Scott Morrison was 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:04.040 a committed Christian, one willing to be photographed on Easter 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:07.600 Sunday amongst the faithful in his parish. Now you remember 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:12.280 how the left mocked him and therefore millions of people 0:03:12.320 --> 0:03:15.440 around the country for his belief. So today I went 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:17.840 and decided to have a look to double check that 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:20.440 that was what happened and what was one of the 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:22.840 things the Labor Party said they had to do Differently. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:28.920 The twenty nineteen review into the federal election campaign is 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.840 this document. In this document, it has in very specific chapters, 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:38.720 a chapter about explaining the swings. We're on page sixty 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.240 one you can find out about Christian voters. And on 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.480 page sixty one it says the party would be rise 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:49.680 wise to reconnect with people of faith on social justice 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:53.240 issues and emphasize its historic links to the mainstream church. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:55.920 In and about. As you can see there it makes 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.360 reference to the visibility of faith that the former Prime 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:04.240 Minister Scott Morrison had now Andrew Bolt did a better 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:06.440 job of noticing this than I'm doing right now a 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.640 couple of weeks ago. But it's worth pointing out again 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.360 that the bloke who was sworn into office without the 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:19.400 Bible was covering himself in the cloak of faith, which 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.960 I have no doubt has to be genuine. Surely no 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.120 politician would perform such a thing. And he's had a 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:27.960 quote over a long period of time the three things 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:31.040 to believe in was his football club, the church and 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:35.279 the Labor Party. But he certainly really dialed it up 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:39.320 in the last election, remember where suspending campaigning while obviously 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:44.720 still campaigning. Because, as the twenty nineteen documents said, religion, 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.640 the embracing or the rejecting of it, has an overt 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:53.160 political consequence. Hence why if you're actually suspending a campaign, 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:58.919 you do nothing but by clearing the normal rules of 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:02.400 a campaign, meaning no press conferences, no questions, no one 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.919 pushing back, no one asking about your motivations. It means 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.880 the pictures that went all over the different forms of 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.839 news were those of a prime minister on Easter Sunday 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.880 and a prime minister who said this about a pope 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.039 who he had never met. 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.960 Pope Francis lived out his faith and vocation in word 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:27.640 and deed. He was truly inspirational in his modest way 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:32.320 of life, and at his weekly audiences he demonstrated his 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.800 commitment to peace, equality and inclusion. 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.640 So we know that this could well be a good 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.800 Catholic boy speaking about the passing of a pope, but 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.520 it's also a hyper political man trying to learn the 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:53.400 lessons from politicians past and elections past. When talking about 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.400 his own personal faith, again conveniently around this time where 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.520 we're definitely not campaigning, he said. 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:05.520 This, I try not to talk about my faith in public. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.040 I say I was a race with three great faith. 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.040 I've said that a number of times, and at times 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.599 like this, I think what people do is to they 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:25.960 draw on who they are, and certainly my Catholicism is 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:27.560 just a part of me. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:34.680 At moments like this, they are drawn on the who 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.240 we are or who they are. I think it was 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:42.640 the exact words. So when it came to presenting as 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.680 a person of faith, appealing to as many people of 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.360 faith as possible, the Prime Minister was out and proud 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:54.000 before an election. But today, when he was sworn in 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.560 again for the second time as Prime Minister, we're right 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:01.400 back to where we were in twenty twenty two. Now again, 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.240 I am not a person of faith, so if I 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:07.880 held the Bible, it would be an overt active sort 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.520 of political pandering. But if I were somebody who had 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:17.200 three great loves, who spoke as warmly about the head 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:22.800 of his church, who had gone to church publicly on 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:28.280 the occasion of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.320 would think the greatest power that you could swear to 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:34.400 that you would uphold the oath that you have just given, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.240 would be the very God that you may well not 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.800 talk about every single day, but you were more than 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:45.920 happy to parade when you weren't campaigning. Now I know 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.040 that labor people will say that none of this mattered 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:53.960 at the election, and perhaps it didn't. But if one 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.440 of the reasons why they lost was because they didn't 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:01.280 project enough commitment to faith, and the bloke who has 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:07.120 won not once but twice since that review is selective 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:11.920 in his invocation of faith, I think there's something weird here. 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.600 Dare I say the each way elbow of it? Now, 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:16.880 there is nothing more insulting than to talk about somebody's 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:22.200 personal faith, because it is theirs and theirs alone. And 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.000 again I cannot doubt that whether the Prime Minister is 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:26.720 or isn't a person of faith, you have to say 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:30.680 that he would be. But why wouldn't he show that 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.200 by taking the same oath as many prime ministers before, 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:38.199 with a holy text of many prime ministers before. 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:46.240 That's what I, Anthony Norman Alberanezi, do, solemnly and sincerely 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.640 affirm and declare that I will well and truly serve 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:50.880 the comwealth. 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.880 Of Australia, her Land and her people in the Office. 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:55.959 Of Prime stuff. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.920 Twice say each way elbow. I can imagine the hate 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:02.880 and no doubt the smoke signals are being sent away 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.800 of the new Communications Minister. Do something about him, ring 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.920 the bosses wave the finger. Well, none of that's going 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.079 to work because in a democracy you are allowed to 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:17.440 question everything, including how fitting Kim the Prime Minister is 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:22.320 on all issues big and s. More to the transition 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.720 in the Liberal Party today, congratulations to Susan Laigh and 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.199 Ted O'Brien. They the new leader and deputy leader. Now, 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.719 I will be very honest with you, I was not 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.320 entirely sure that Ted O'Brien was going to be a 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.160 full time candidate for the deputy's position. I knew it 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.400 had been muted, but I didn't hear what it was announced. 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:43.040 But congratulations to him, good block from Queensland who showed 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.400 today that there are many more strings to the bow 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:47.640 than the caricature that the Labor Party may well have 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.400 built over the past three years. Now, I'm pleased that 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.480 these guys are the leadership because they are the next chapter, 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:59.960 the new generation, the next step forward for the Liberal Party. 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.240 I've got to say the bench is pretty good too, 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:07.280 with people like Angus Taylor, with people like just Into Price, 0:10:07.320 --> 0:10:09.680 and of course the great Phil Thompson who decided once 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:11.440 just Into Price wasn't going to run because it was 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.920 obvious that Taylor wasn't going to be the leader that 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.280 he went. You know, bugerat opup me hand up is 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:17.960 showing that this is a bloke who wants to be 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.120 part of the future leadership structure of the party. And 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:26.160 between these three Lay and Ted O'Brien, that's a pretty 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:30.160 good corps of people who want to take the party forward. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:35.040 But I got to say, I've got a lot of messages, 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.000 just some of the many, many messages that I have 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.599 got today, and I could show you them all, but 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:42.720 I've actually got names on them here right. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:48.959 Stepping the left direction, big mistake, going from bad to worse. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.800 Always voted liberal. But I'll do one nation from now on, 0:10:53.200 --> 0:11:04.400 turnbull light the ghost's sister, like losing no net zero 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.920 or there will be no more Libs. One nation and 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:09.959 family first had my vote, and so on and so 0:11:10.000 --> 0:11:13.280 on and so on and so on and so on 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:17.880 and so on and so on. But where does this 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.640 come from? Honestly, where does that come from? Oh, she's 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:26.800 technically factionally, this she's factually like, come on, here's the 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.600 reality about Susan Lee. Okay, And five things that I 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.080 think are really why if you're a person who voted 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.040 for the coalition a couple of saturdays ago. You'll probably 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.080 be doing so again in three years time. Well, Susan Lee, 0:11:40.240 --> 0:11:44.520 of course, unlike the current Prime Minister, has actually got 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.559 a real life to talk about. In fact, this is 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.480 Anthony Aberesi the first year he became a MP. This 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.680 was in nineteen ninety six. You go to his very 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.720 own website on the Australian Parliament Houses website and you 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.000 can go and have a look at his entire experience 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.800 outside of the Parliament. Well, he went to UNI. He 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.800 worked as a bank teller I think it is for 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:11.040 one year in nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty one. Then 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.240 he worked for a federal government minister. He was a 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.640 party official. He then worked for the nusobas premier. Then 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:20.880 he became an MP. He is a creature of politics. Now, 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:24.760 let's compare this year with Susan Lee, and Susan today 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.880 told the story of who she was right up until 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.760 that moment when she was riding around in a caravan 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.280 that she had previously used when she was working as 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.080 a shearer's cook. 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:42.440 My story is a migrant story, it's a small business story, 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:46.120 it's a rural Australia story. It's a story about a 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.680 mum and a family, and it is a modern Australian story. 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:53.640 When I came to this country as a young girl 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.400 from a cold English boarding school in my teenage years, 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.480 I stepped out of the airplane at Brisbane Airport and 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:01.840 I looked at the brilliant blue sky and I knew 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:03.480 that I'd come to the best country on and have 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.840 never stopped feeling grateful for this country for what it 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.240 has given me. I was able to pursue the dream 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:14.040 of flying and become a pilot, an aerial stockmustering pilot. 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.160 I worked in the sharing sheds. I learned the value 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.720 of a hard day's work in the hot sun. I 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:26.040 learned the real value and the dignity of manual labor. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:30.360 I was able to pursue three finance degrees, including a 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.480 specialty masters in tax law, which is where my great 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.920 interest in tax policy comes from. But I found my 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:41.559 pathway into politics and I aligned with Liberal values through 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.839 the hard work, the effort, the reward, the opportunity. I'm 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.360 still just as passionate about the Liberal Party as I 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.320 was when I hooked up my caravan, the caravan I 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.839 lived in as a shearers cook painted it with the 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.240 Liberal Party logos and towed it up and down the 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:57.880 Murray River. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.439 This is a person who had a full and complicated 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:06.520 and real life before the world of politics. This is 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.160 who we keep being told is the type of person 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.080 that we want to be front and center in a 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.760 political party. I honestly do not understand the number of 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:19.080 people who have taken some automatic set against her. Now, 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.840 if this is some sort of other incarnation of former 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.960 leaders past that none of us have been big fans of, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.320 I'll be the first to say it, but I'm not 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:32.320 entirely sure why you want to prejudge a person before 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.240 they start to show you what they would be like 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:40.360 as a leader. Now. Susan does, of course have the 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.960 baggage of being the deputy leader in this past selection. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.280 She can't pretend that she wasn't part of either the 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.960 decision making or some of the very significant dropped balls. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:52.560 But again number two of the five things that I 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.640 think are good about what happened with the Liberal Party today, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.920 she does, yes, in being a woman, bring a perspective 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:02.760 to the leadership of the party it has never seen before. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:07.520 I know crazy don't talk about it, but can I 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.320 tell you something, and I'm going to have to put 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:14.840 my glasses on for this. Since twenty twenty two and 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.720 twenty twenty five, the Liberal Party has lost thirty seats 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:24.680 thirty seats. Twelve out of the twelve they lost this 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:27.640 election had more female voters in those seats, and not 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:32.160 by a little bit. By the way, in twenty and 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:38.000 twenty two, when they lost eighteen seats, sixteen of the 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:42.960 eighteen had more female voters in each of those seats. 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:49.880 Put that together, twenty eight of the thirty seats the 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:53.320 party has lost since it lost government have more female 0:15:53.400 --> 0:16:02.600 voters seat by seat than male voters. And again let 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:07.520 me explain some of the differences here. Firstly, these are 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:11.800 all of the seats where there are more female voters 0:16:11.840 --> 0:16:14.200 than males, and all of these seats of the seats 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:30.800 that the Liberal Party has lost since twenty twenty two, Banks, Bass, Benelong, Bonner, Boothby, Braden, Brisbane, Chisholm, Curtain, Deacon, Dixon, Ford, Goldstein, Higgins, Hughes, 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:36.960 cou Yong, Leichhardt, Mckella, Moore, North Sydney, Piers, Petrie, Reed, Robertson, 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:43.120 Ryan Sturt, Tangy and Wentworth. Only two had more blokes, 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.120 and that was has Luck where it was less than 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.720 a thousand, and Swan where it was two hundred more 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.680 blokes than women. Instead in some of these places that 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:58.600 I'm looking at here, here's the reality. Say in the 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.360 Seed of Dixon, the one that was just lost by 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:05.760 Peter Dunnon, was a two thousand vote difference there. When 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.359 you talk about people over fifty or under fifty, the 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.919 difference there was nine thousand votes. Now I get it 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:16.200 that politics is about philosophy, Politics is about belief, politics 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:20.240 is about values, and I am not trying to talk 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:24.200 anyone out of any of those things. But it's also 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.560 about maths. And in the same way that you have 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.960 to have the numbers in the party room to become 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:35.359 the leader, to become the deputy leader, or in the 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.639 Labor Party to hold on to or to get a ministry. 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:47.200 The numbers show us that female voters matter. Why because 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:49.600 can I show you the primary vote according to the 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:54.000 essential poll, this is over the past couple of years, 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:57.800 pretty stable that more blokes we in favor of the 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:04.479 coalition over the past couple of years. Again, same poll. However, 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.199 when it comes to females, it's not all heading the 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.000 way of the Labor Party. In fact, it's kind of 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:11.639 fifty to fifty, fifty to fifty, fifty to fifty and 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:15.840 then it really drops off. So that's why it really 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:19.919 matters that the party that has lost twenty eight of 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:24.919 thirty seats it has lost since twenty twenty two that 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.560 have more women than men, and again I'll gladly run 0:18:28.600 --> 0:18:32.600 through every number four year if you want that they 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:38.400 need to do something to reconnect. And clearly, the first 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:44.000 popularly elected female leader of an Australian political party not 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:47.679 installed by the factions and then propped up post a 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.280 dead head election like Julia Gillard, this is a big 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:54.920 and important moment. But the idea that oh she's from 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:59.399 this faction, which means this, which come on, this is 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.119 going to be a good day for many people. It 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:05.840 means it's a different perspective and it's one where clearly 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.760 more than half of the country currently has. And I 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:12.240 get it, not all blokes one way, not all ladies another. 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.520 There's not one way to talk to certain demographics. You 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:18.199 talk to networks. I get it, I get it, I 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.199 get it. But if in every in twenty eight or 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:27.760 thirty seats you've lost one data point is screaming at you. 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.159 You don't put a leader in who's female because they're female. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.440 But if you have a female deputy, probably a good 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:38.600 idea that the vice captain can become the captain. The 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.040 third thing that is worth talking about about the change 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.600 of leadership that took place today is that everything's on 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:50.240 the table now again. I am a person whose first 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:55.199 and utter loyalty is to you the viewer, and certainly 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.320 when it comes to the political vessels in which we trust, 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.359 you know that I wanted a change of government, and 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.360 I wanted to change a prime minister. And even if 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.880 you're a person who might be a little more libertarianan 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:11.879 or a little more one nation, I've sat here for 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.719 how long talking about preference discipline that you always had 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.960 should have Number two as the party you choose to 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:21.240 form government. But the point is when you have lost 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.640 a couple of elections and you've lost that many seats, 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.200 and remember there's a bunch of Tier ones that don't 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:29.720 ever come back, which doesn't mean you're not competitive, but 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:31.679 the point is that even if you won all of 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.440 those seats, well, then you'd only be in a position 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.840 where you'd still be pushing for minority government, and that 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.720 obviously won't be happening in the next three years, so 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.320 why not try to put everything on the table. And 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:46.000 that's exactly what is going to happen when it comes 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.080 to policy now. I personally think she should have stood 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.480 up there today and said, look, here's the deal, reset 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.960 everything we took to the last election currently up on stilts. 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:56.520 And I know she wouldn't say it, and I know 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.680 he's no political hero of mine, but I can't help 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.040 but think where Bill Shorten first became leader after the 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:06.120 Labor Party was trunced by Tony Abbott in twenty thirteen. 0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.960 And remember, by the way, the day the party broke 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.400 and the day the party I'm not going to say 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:14.480 died but certainly got krook was the day Malcolm Turnbull 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:19.520 knifed Abbot. Okay, it was that day because the Liberal 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.879 Party had become just like the Labor Party and the 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.479 holy difference between Team Red and Team Blue was broken 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:29.760 for millions and millions of people. That's facts too. But 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:31.840 just like Bill Shorton said about the Labour Party, there 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:33.960 are three things you need to do in the three 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:37.880 years that are the period of time between elections. First 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.800 year focus on your party, get it fit, get the 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:42.800 machine up and run, and get make sure that the 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:47.040 right candidates are in place. Second year work on the policy, well, 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:48.600 obviously you should have been doing that at the same 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.600 time as you're doing the party. And then in the 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.480 third year is when you focus on the politics of 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:54.560 an election. Now, the truth is, of course you do 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:58.359 all three at all three times. But when you're in 0:21:58.400 --> 0:22:01.280 a position where no one thinks you're going to win 0:22:01.359 --> 0:22:04.919 the next election, millions of people hope that you get close, 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.000 and certainly close enough to take some barker for we 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.520 think you know, it's going to be a pretty arrogant government. 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:12.240 I mean, the Prime Minister is already off airbus elbow 0:22:12.800 --> 0:22:16.040 before the end of the week because you see, he 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:20.040 thinks he's over that hoop that doesn't matter anymore. And 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:21.800 he's got many more flights after the one that's coming 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.679 up this week because of course he absolutely must go 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:26.600 to the inauguration of the Pope, but then won't hold 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:28.720 the Bible when he's being sworn in. Help me out, 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:33.480 Help me out. So this is what they said about 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:34.240 policy today. 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.159 I committed to my colleagues that there would be no 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:43.200 Captain's calls from anywhere by me, and I also committed 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:45.639 during the discussions I had with him this week that 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:48.800 we would work through every single policy issue. We would 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.560 canvass the different views, and we would take the time 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.280 to get it right. And you might hear me saying 0:22:54.320 --> 0:22:56.120 take the time to get it right quite a lot 0:22:56.119 --> 0:23:00.000 this morning, because that's really important, and unsurprisingly in our party, 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:03.359 there are many different views, and we will listen and 0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.119 we will take the positions that we need to at 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:05.960 the appropriate time. 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.600 All right. As for the fourth thing here, that she 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:11.680 wasn't going to be pushed around by the camera media. 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.239 This is really important because you see, the truth is 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.720 that some of the most arrogant people in the building 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:21.080 are the people who observe the process, who aren't in 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:24.879 the process but think they are the process. He's a 0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:26.399 little bit of the back and forth about how she 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:27.680 held her own today, which I liked. 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:33.000 Appreciating that you're here now, Will you, as leader, unlike 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:37.119 your predecessor, continue to put yourself regularly before the canbra press, 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:41.439 gullery and before a broad section of the media, just 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:45.840 you know, for the basic transparency, accountability and to air ideas. 0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:51.639 Yes, I will, Sarah Okay, this was the fourth question 0:23:51.800 --> 0:23:53.400 was that one? But the one that I really liked 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.560 seeing was the pushback with the blokou verbal just enterprise 0:23:56.720 --> 0:24:00.320 during the election, Jason, you. 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:03.720 Didn't in that zero. It's been a fought long and 0:24:03.840 --> 0:24:07.000 hard inside your party room. 0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:09.920