Speaker 1: From the Skyinging Center. This is Paul Murray Live, thank you,
Speaker 1: to make a history making day for the Liberal Party
Speaker 1: at tonight. A person who may have a little advice
Speaker 1: as to what their new leaders should do. A happy
Speaker 1: warrior in UK politics who has championed a need for
Speaker 1: serious dealings with cultural issues and immigration, so much so
Speaker 1: that even a lefty prime minister in Keir Starmer is
Speaker 1: starting to sound like Nigel Farage. But only Nigel Farage
Speaker 1: is Nigel Faraj and he is on our program tonight,
Speaker 1: really looking forward to that conversation. Probably don't break the
Speaker 1: cameras next on, guys, you could hear that cracking, all right.
Speaker 1: So let us get to today and the news of
Speaker 1: the day where the Prime Minister was sworn in along
Speaker 1: with many of his minister's assistant ministers, etc. Etc. And
Speaker 1: this does make me need to breathe some life into
Speaker 1: an old nickname that I had for the Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: which was each way Albow. Now in twenty and twenty two,
Speaker 1: we've got to go way back to one of his
Speaker 1: first days as Prime minister to show you when he
Speaker 1: was sworn in in twenty twenty two, different governor General,
Speaker 1: same Prime minister and a decision not to place a
Speaker 1: hand on the Bible, instead to take what it's called
Speaker 1: the oath of affirmation. Now, as you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: a person of faith, but I have respect for people
Speaker 1: of faith, and I would assume that if you're a
Speaker 1: person of faith, then not taking the non believer's affirmation
Speaker 1: is not the most ultimate way of saying that to
Speaker 1: the Higher Power, I surrender and I swear before in
Speaker 1: terms of the commitment that is about to be made
Speaker 1: to the country. But Anthony Alberinezi made the decision in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two that he would take the oath not sorry,
Speaker 1: to take the affirmation, not the oath, not have a Bible,
Speaker 1: rather than take the oath and have the Bible. This
Speaker 1: was interesting. It was even noted by the scribes at
Speaker 1: the time that he had decided to take the secular
Speaker 1: affirmation other than swearing before God the Catholic Weekly, which
Speaker 1: I'll be honest I don't read often, but still they
Speaker 1: noted here that the Bible is out and the affirmation
Speaker 1: is in. Anthony Aberezi has raised eyebrows across several religious
Speaker 1: groups just seconds into taking office by selecting to be
Speaker 1: sworn in as a as Prime minister by making way sorry,
Speaker 1: by way of making a secular affirmation without reference to God,
Speaker 1: rather than taking an oath on the Bible. Now, this
Speaker 1: version of each way Albo goes even further back than
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. You see. One of the reasons the
Speaker 1: Labor Party was able to convince itself that it lost
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen because it clearly, they say, wasn't their
Speaker 1: climate policies. They kept those. Remember they just told you
Speaker 1: two seventy five and one hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons, according to their review, was that
Speaker 1: Scott Morrison visibly believed in God. That Scott Morrison was
Speaker 1: a committed Christian, one willing to be photographed on Easter
Speaker 1: Sunday amongst the faithful in his parish. Now you remember
Speaker 1: how the left mocked him and therefore millions of people
Speaker 1: around the country for his belief. So today I went
Speaker 1: and decided to have a look to double check that
Speaker 1: that was what happened and what was one of the
Speaker 1: things the Labor Party said they had to do Differently.
Speaker 1: The twenty nineteen review into the federal election campaign is
Speaker 1: this document. In this document, it has in very specific chapters,
Speaker 1: a chapter about explaining the swings. We're on page sixty
Speaker 1: one you can find out about Christian voters. And on
Speaker 1: page sixty one it says the party would be rise
Speaker 1: wise to reconnect with people of faith on social justice
Speaker 1: issues and emphasize its historic links to the mainstream church.
Speaker 1: In and about. As you can see there it makes
Speaker 1: reference to the visibility of faith that the former Prime
Speaker 1: Minister Scott Morrison had now Andrew Bolt did a better
Speaker 1: job of noticing this than I'm doing right now a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But it's worth pointing out again
Speaker 1: that the bloke who was sworn into office without the
Speaker 1: Bible was covering himself in the cloak of faith, which
Speaker 1: I have no doubt has to be genuine. Surely no
Speaker 1: politician would perform such a thing. And he's had a
Speaker 1: quote over a long period of time the three things
Speaker 1: to believe in was his football club, the church and
Speaker 1: the Labor Party. But he certainly really dialed it up
Speaker 1: in the last election, remember where suspending campaigning while obviously
Speaker 1: still campaigning. Because, as the twenty nineteen documents said, religion,
Speaker 1: the embracing or the rejecting of it, has an overt
Speaker 1: political consequence. Hence why if you're actually suspending a campaign,
Speaker 1: you do nothing but by clearing the normal rules of
Speaker 1: a campaign, meaning no press conferences, no questions, no one
Speaker 1: pushing back, no one asking about your motivations. It means
Speaker 1: the pictures that went all over the different forms of
Speaker 1: news were those of a prime minister on Easter Sunday
Speaker 1: and a prime minister who said this about a pope
Speaker 1: who he had never met.
Speaker 3: Pope Francis lived out his faith and vocation in word
Speaker 3: and deed. He was truly inspirational in his modest way
Speaker 3: of life, and at his weekly audiences he demonstrated his
Speaker 3: commitment to peace, equality and inclusion.
Speaker 1: So we know that this could well be a good
Speaker 1: Catholic boy speaking about the passing of a pope, but
Speaker 1: it's also a hyper political man trying to learn the
Speaker 1: lessons from politicians past and elections past. When talking about
Speaker 1: his own personal faith, again conveniently around this time where
Speaker 1: we're definitely not campaigning, he said.
Speaker 3: This, I try not to talk about my faith in public.
Speaker 3: I say I was a race with three great faith.
Speaker 3: I've said that a number of times, and at times
Speaker 3: like this, I think what people do is to they
Speaker 3: draw on who they are, and certainly my Catholicism is
Speaker 3: just a part of me.
Speaker 1: At moments like this, they are drawn on the who
Speaker 1: we are or who they are. I think it was
Speaker 1: the exact words. So when it came to presenting as
Speaker 1: a person of faith, appealing to as many people of
Speaker 1: faith as possible, the Prime Minister was out and proud
Speaker 1: before an election. But today, when he was sworn in
Speaker 1: again for the second time as Prime Minister, we're right
Speaker 1: back to where we were in twenty twenty two. Now again,
Speaker 1: I am not a person of faith, so if I
Speaker 1: held the Bible, it would be an overt active sort
Speaker 1: of political pandering. But if I were somebody who had
Speaker 1: three great loves, who spoke as warmly about the head
Speaker 1: of his church, who had gone to church publicly on
Speaker 1: the occasion of the resurrection of Jesus Christ, then you
Speaker 1: would think the greatest power that you could swear to
Speaker 1: that you would uphold the oath that you have just given,
Speaker 1: would be the very God that you may well not
Speaker 1: talk about every single day, but you were more than
Speaker 1: happy to parade when you weren't campaigning. Now I know
Speaker 1: that labor people will say that none of this mattered
Speaker 1: at the election, and perhaps it didn't. But if one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why they lost was because they didn't
Speaker 1: project enough commitment to faith, and the bloke who has
Speaker 1: won not once but twice since that review is selective
Speaker 1: in his invocation of faith, I think there's something weird here.
Speaker 1: Dare I say the each way elbow of it? Now,
Speaker 1: there is nothing more insulting than to talk about somebody's
Speaker 1: personal faith, because it is theirs and theirs alone. And
Speaker 1: again I cannot doubt that whether the Prime Minister is
Speaker 1: or isn't a person of faith, you have to say
Speaker 1: that he would be. But why wouldn't he show that
Speaker 1: by taking the same oath as many prime ministers before,
Speaker 1: with a holy text of many prime ministers before.
Speaker 3: That's what I, Anthony Norman Alberanezi, do, solemnly and sincerely
Speaker 3: affirm and declare that I will well and truly serve
Speaker 3: the comwealth.
Speaker 4: Of Australia, her Land and her people in the Office.
Speaker 2: Of Prime stuff.
Speaker 1: Twice say each way elbow. I can imagine the hate
Speaker 1: and no doubt the smoke signals are being sent away
Speaker 1: of the new Communications Minister. Do something about him, ring
Speaker 1: the bosses wave the finger. Well, none of that's going
Speaker 1: to work because in a democracy you are allowed to
Speaker 1: question everything, including how fitting Kim the Prime Minister is
Speaker 1: on all issues big and s. More to the transition
Speaker 1: in the Liberal Party today, congratulations to Susan Laigh and
Speaker 1: Ted O'Brien. They the new leader and deputy leader. Now,
Speaker 1: I will be very honest with you, I was not
Speaker 1: entirely sure that Ted O'Brien was going to be a
Speaker 1: full time candidate for the deputy's position. I knew it
Speaker 1: had been muted, but I didn't hear what it was announced.
Speaker 1: But congratulations to him, good block from Queensland who showed
Speaker 1: today that there are many more strings to the bow
Speaker 1: than the caricature that the Labor Party may well have
Speaker 1: built over the past three years. Now, I'm pleased that
Speaker 1: these guys are the leadership because they are the next chapter,
Speaker 1: the new generation, the next step forward for the Liberal Party.
Speaker 1: I've got to say the bench is pretty good too,
Speaker 1: with people like Angus Taylor, with people like just Into Price,
Speaker 1: and of course the great Phil Thompson who decided once
Speaker 1: just Into Price wasn't going to run because it was
Speaker 1: obvious that Taylor wasn't going to be the leader that
Speaker 1: he went. You know, bugerat opup me hand up is
Speaker 1: showing that this is a bloke who wants to be
Speaker 1: part of the future leadership structure of the party. And
Speaker 1: between these three Lay and Ted O'Brien, that's a pretty
Speaker 1: good corps of people who want to take the party forward.
Speaker 5: But I got to say, I've got a lot of messages,
Speaker 5: just some of the many, many messages that I have
Speaker 5: got today, and I could show you them all, but
Speaker 5: I've actually got names on them here right.
Speaker 1: Stepping the left direction, big mistake, going from bad to worse.
Speaker 1: Always voted liberal. But I'll do one nation from now on,
Speaker 1: turnbull light the ghost's sister, like losing no net zero
Speaker 1: or there will be no more Libs. One nation and
Speaker 1: family first had my vote, and so on and so
Speaker 1: on and so on and so on and so on
Speaker 1: and so on and so on. But where does this
Speaker 1: come from? Honestly, where does that come from? Oh, she's
Speaker 1: technically factionally, this she's factually like, come on, here's the
Speaker 1: reality about Susan Lee. Okay, And five things that I
Speaker 1: think are really why if you're a person who voted
Speaker 1: for the coalition a couple of saturdays ago. You'll probably
Speaker 1: be doing so again in three years time. Well, Susan Lee,
Speaker 1: of course, unlike the current Prime Minister, has actually got
Speaker 1: a real life to talk about. In fact, this is
Speaker 1: Anthony Aberesi the first year he became a MP. This
Speaker 1: was in nineteen ninety six. You go to his very
Speaker 1: own website on the Australian Parliament Houses website and you
Speaker 1: can go and have a look at his entire experience
Speaker 1: outside of the Parliament. Well, he went to UNI. He
Speaker 1: worked as a bank teller I think it is for
Speaker 1: one year in nineteen eighty to nineteen eighty one. Then
Speaker 1: he worked for a federal government minister. He was a
Speaker 1: party official. He then worked for the nusobas premier. Then
Speaker 1: he became an MP. He is a creature of politics. Now,
Speaker 1: let's compare this year with Susan Lee, and Susan today
Speaker 1: told the story of who she was right up until
Speaker 1: that moment when she was riding around in a caravan
Speaker 1: that she had previously used when she was working as
Speaker 1: a shearer's cook.
Speaker 6: My story is a migrant story, it's a small business story,
Speaker 6: it's a rural Australia story. It's a story about a
Speaker 6: mum and a family, and it is a modern Australian story.
Speaker 6: When I came to this country as a young girl
Speaker 6: from a cold English boarding school in my teenage years,
Speaker 6: I stepped out of the airplane at Brisbane Airport and
Speaker 6: I looked at the brilliant blue sky and I knew
Speaker 6: that I'd come to the best country on and have
Speaker 6: never stopped feeling grateful for this country for what it
Speaker 6: has given me. I was able to pursue the dream
Speaker 6: of flying and become a pilot, an aerial stockmustering pilot.
Speaker 6: I worked in the sharing sheds. I learned the value
Speaker 6: of a hard day's work in the hot sun. I
Speaker 6: learned the real value and the dignity of manual labor.
Speaker 6: I was able to pursue three finance degrees, including a
Speaker 6: specialty masters in tax law, which is where my great
Speaker 6: interest in tax policy comes from. But I found my
Speaker 6: pathway into politics and I aligned with Liberal values through
Speaker 6: the hard work, the effort, the reward, the opportunity. I'm
Speaker 6: still just as passionate about the Liberal Party as I
Speaker 6: was when I hooked up my caravan, the caravan I
Speaker 6: lived in as a shearers cook painted it with the
Speaker 6: Liberal Party logos and towed it up and down the
Speaker 6: Murray River.
Speaker 1: This is a person who had a full and complicated
Speaker 1: and real life before the world of politics. This is
Speaker 1: who we keep being told is the type of person
Speaker 1: that we want to be front and center in a
Speaker 1: political party. I honestly do not understand the number of
Speaker 1: people who have taken some automatic set against her. Now,
Speaker 1: if this is some sort of other incarnation of former
Speaker 1: leaders past that none of us have been big fans of,
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to say it, but I'm not
Speaker 1: entirely sure why you want to prejudge a person before
Speaker 1: they start to show you what they would be like
Speaker 1: as a leader. Now. Susan does, of course have the
Speaker 1: baggage of being the deputy leader in this past selection.
Speaker 1: She can't pretend that she wasn't part of either the
Speaker 1: decision making or some of the very significant dropped balls.
Speaker 1: But again number two of the five things that I
Speaker 1: think are good about what happened with the Liberal Party today,
Speaker 1: she does, yes, in being a woman, bring a perspective
Speaker 1: to the leadership of the party it has never seen before.
Speaker 1: I know crazy don't talk about it, but can I
Speaker 1: tell you something, and I'm going to have to put
Speaker 1: my glasses on for this. Since twenty twenty two and
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, the Liberal Party has lost thirty seats
Speaker 1: thirty seats. Twelve out of the twelve they lost this
Speaker 1: election had more female voters in those seats, and not
Speaker 1: by a little bit. By the way, in twenty and
Speaker 1: twenty two, when they lost eighteen seats, sixteen of the
Speaker 1: eighteen had more female voters in each of those seats.
Speaker 1: Put that together, twenty eight of the thirty seats the
Speaker 1: party has lost since it lost government have more female
Speaker 1: voters seat by seat than male voters. And again let
Speaker 1: me explain some of the differences here. Firstly, these are
Speaker 1: all of the seats where there are more female voters
Speaker 1: than males, and all of these seats of the seats
Speaker 1: that the Liberal Party has lost since twenty twenty two, Banks, Bass, Benelong, Bonner, Boothby, Braden, Brisbane, Chisholm, Curtain, Deacon, Dixon, Ford, Goldstein, Higgins, Hughes,
Speaker 1: cou Yong, Leichhardt, Mckella, Moore, North Sydney, Piers, Petrie, Reed, Robertson,
Speaker 1: Ryan Sturt, Tangy and Wentworth. Only two had more blokes,
Speaker 1: and that was has Luck where it was less than
Speaker 1: a thousand, and Swan where it was two hundred more
Speaker 1: blokes than women. Instead in some of these places that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at here, here's the reality. Say in the
Speaker 1: Seed of Dixon, the one that was just lost by
Speaker 1: Peter Dunnon, was a two thousand vote difference there. When
Speaker 1: you talk about people over fifty or under fifty, the
Speaker 1: difference there was nine thousand votes. Now I get it
Speaker 1: that politics is about philosophy, Politics is about belief, politics
Speaker 1: is about values, and I am not trying to talk
Speaker 1: anyone out of any of those things. But it's also
Speaker 1: about maths. And in the same way that you have
Speaker 1: to have the numbers in the party room to become
Speaker 1: the leader, to become the deputy leader, or in the
Speaker 1: Labor Party to hold on to or to get a ministry.
Speaker 1: The numbers show us that female voters matter. Why because
Speaker 1: can I show you the primary vote according to the
Speaker 1: essential poll, this is over the past couple of years,
Speaker 1: pretty stable that more blokes we in favor of the
Speaker 1: coalition over the past couple of years. Again, same poll. However,
Speaker 1: when it comes to females, it's not all heading the
Speaker 1: way of the Labor Party. In fact, it's kind of
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty, fifty to fifty, fifty to fifty and
Speaker 1: then it really drops off. So that's why it really
Speaker 1: matters that the party that has lost twenty eight of
Speaker 1: thirty seats it has lost since twenty twenty two that
Speaker 1: have more women than men, and again I'll gladly run
Speaker 1: through every number four year if you want that they
Speaker 1: need to do something to reconnect. And clearly, the first
Speaker 1: popularly elected female leader of an Australian political party not
Speaker 1: installed by the factions and then propped up post a
Speaker 1: dead head election like Julia Gillard, this is a big
Speaker 1: and important moment. But the idea that oh she's from
Speaker 1: this faction, which means this, which come on, this is
Speaker 1: going to be a good day for many people. It
Speaker 1: means it's a different perspective and it's one where clearly
Speaker 1: more than half of the country currently has. And I
Speaker 1: get it, not all blokes one way, not all ladies another.
Speaker 1: There's not one way to talk to certain demographics. You
Speaker 1: talk to networks. I get it, I get it, I
Speaker 1: get it. But if in every in twenty eight or
Speaker 1: thirty seats you've lost one data point is screaming at you.
Speaker 1: You don't put a leader in who's female because they're female.
Speaker 1: But if you have a female deputy, probably a good
Speaker 1: idea that the vice captain can become the captain. The
Speaker 1: third thing that is worth talking about about the change
Speaker 1: of leadership that took place today is that everything's on
Speaker 1: the table now again. I am a person whose first
Speaker 1: and utter loyalty is to you the viewer, and certainly
Speaker 1: when it comes to the political vessels in which we trust,
Speaker 1: you know that I wanted a change of government, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to change a prime minister. And even if
Speaker 1: you're a person who might be a little more libertarianan
Speaker 1: or a little more one nation, I've sat here for
Speaker 1: how long talking about preference discipline that you always had
Speaker 1: should have Number two as the party you choose to
Speaker 1: form government. But the point is when you have lost
Speaker 1: a couple of elections and you've lost that many seats,
Speaker 1: and remember there's a bunch of Tier ones that don't
Speaker 1: ever come back, which doesn't mean you're not competitive, but
Speaker 1: the point is that even if you won all of
Speaker 1: those seats, well, then you'd only be in a position
Speaker 1: where you'd still be pushing for minority government, and that
Speaker 1: obviously won't be happening in the next three years, so
Speaker 1: why not try to put everything on the table. And
Speaker 1: that's exactly what is going to happen when it comes
Speaker 1: to policy now. I personally think she should have stood
Speaker 1: up there today and said, look, here's the deal, reset
Speaker 1: everything we took to the last election currently up on stilts.
Speaker 1: And I know she wouldn't say it, and I know
Speaker 1: he's no political hero of mine, but I can't help
Speaker 1: but think where Bill Shorten first became leader after the
Speaker 1: Labor Party was trunced by Tony Abbott in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: And remember, by the way, the day the party broke
Speaker 1: and the day the party I'm not going to say
Speaker 1: died but certainly got krook was the day Malcolm Turnbull
Speaker 1: knifed Abbot. Okay, it was that day because the Liberal
Speaker 1: Party had become just like the Labor Party and the
Speaker 1: holy difference between Team Red and Team Blue was broken
Speaker 1: for millions and millions of people. That's facts too. But
Speaker 1: just like Bill Shorton said about the Labour Party, there
Speaker 1: are three things you need to do in the three
Speaker 1: years that are the period of time between elections. First
Speaker 1: year focus on your party, get it fit, get the
Speaker 1: machine up and run, and get make sure that the
Speaker 1: right candidates are in place. Second year work on the policy, well,
Speaker 1: obviously you should have been doing that at the same
Speaker 1: time as you're doing the party. And then in the
Speaker 1: third year is when you focus on the politics of
Speaker 1: an election. Now, the truth is, of course you do
Speaker 1: all three at all three times. But when you're in
Speaker 1: a position where no one thinks you're going to win
Speaker 1: the next election, millions of people hope that you get close,
Speaker 1: and certainly close enough to take some barker for we
Speaker 1: think you know, it's going to be a pretty arrogant government.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Prime Minister is already off airbus elbow
Speaker 1: before the end of the week because you see, he
Speaker 1: thinks he's over that hoop that doesn't matter anymore. And
Speaker 1: he's got many more flights after the one that's coming
Speaker 1: up this week because of course he absolutely must go
Speaker 1: to the inauguration of the Pope, but then won't hold
Speaker 1: the Bible when he's being sworn in. Help me out,
Speaker 1: Help me out. So this is what they said about
Speaker 1: policy today.
Speaker 6: I committed to my colleagues that there would be no
Speaker 6: Captain's calls from anywhere by me, and I also committed
Speaker 6: during the discussions I had with him this week that
Speaker 6: we would work through every single policy issue. We would
Speaker 6: canvass the different views, and we would take the time
Speaker 6: to get it right. And you might hear me saying
Speaker 6: take the time to get it right quite a lot
Speaker 6: this morning, because that's really important, and unsurprisingly in our party,
Speaker 6: there are many different views, and we will listen and
Speaker 6: we will take the positions that we need to at
Speaker 6: the appropriate time.
Speaker 1: All right. As for the fourth thing here, that she
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be pushed around by the camera media.
Speaker 1: This is really important because you see, the truth is
Speaker 1: that some of the most arrogant people in the building
Speaker 1: are the people who observe the process, who aren't in
Speaker 1: the process but think they are the process. He's a
Speaker 1: little bit of the back and forth about how she
Speaker 1: held her own today, which I liked.
Speaker 7: Appreciating that you're here now, Will you, as leader, unlike
Speaker 7: your predecessor, continue to put yourself regularly before the canbra press,
Speaker 7: gullery and before a broad section of the media, just
Speaker 7: you know, for the basic transparency, accountability and to air ideas.
Speaker 1: Yes, I will, Sarah Okay, this was the fourth question
Speaker 1: was that one? But the one that I really liked
Speaker 1: seeing was the pushback with the blokou verbal just enterprise
Speaker 1: during the election, Jason, you.
Speaker 5: Didn't in that zero. It's been a fought long and
Speaker 5: hard inside your party room.
Speaker 8: We thought it was settled.
Speaker 1: Is it settled or not.
Speaker 6: We have to get energy policy as a whole right,
Speaker 6: but we have to recognize that we need a strong
Speaker 6: country that is committed to a manufacturing base that relies
Speaker 6: on cheap, reliable energy.
Speaker 5: You're prepared to walk away from netsuit.
Speaker 6: You're putting words in my math, Andrew. No policies have
Speaker 6: been adopted or walked away from at this time.
Speaker 1: And finally, I really liked that there was a little
Speaker 1: moment which shows that a person having one of the
Speaker 1: best days of their professional career still was all about
Speaker 1: family first. Lovely photo was put out by Susan Lee
Speaker 1: over the weekend. This is her with her kids and
Speaker 1: with their grandkids. Photo of a divorced mum with a
Speaker 1: real life, with a dream to be part of the
Speaker 1: national conversation. Possible hill of being able to win an
Speaker 1: election in three years time, but maybe competitive in six.
Speaker 1: But even though she was hustling for votes and making
Speaker 1: all of the phone calls. She was probably doing so
Speaker 1: not too far from her mum, like all of our
Speaker 1: moms we love, but her mum is dying. And she
Speaker 1: made that point today that she wanted her mum to
Speaker 1: hear through a radio or tell her wherever she is
Speaker 1: how important her mum was and is to her.
Speaker 6: I just want to say a few words I would
Speaker 6: acknowledge my mum, Angela in Aubury On. My mom is
Speaker 6: very sick and on Mother's Day before I came up here,
Speaker 6: I called in to see her and I thought that
Speaker 6: it might be the last time that I did. She
Speaker 6: is in end of life care and this week has
Speaker 6: been tough because I've kept in touch with her and
Speaker 6: her medical team and my family, and I just wanted
Speaker 6: to mention and my mum this morning. And I know
Speaker 6: you'll understand that after I've taken all of your questions exhaustively,
Speaker 6: I will be heading home to be by her side.
Speaker 6: And my mom grew up in wartime Britain and the
Speaker 6: values of resilience, self reliance and persistence that I believe
Speaker 6: I have today come from her. So thank you, Mum.
Speaker 1: So five things so join me, join me in the
Speaker 1: conversation and the debate and the want to hold a
Speaker 1: bad government accountable. Do not get distracted by the internal
Speaker 1: games or the people who are trying to stir the
Speaker 1: internal games. I get it, it's really important, and values
Speaker 1: matter and principles matter, and I'm not asking anyone anywhere
Speaker 1: to change those things. But if you're sending me messages
Speaker 1: on our on day one, then how does that make
Speaker 1: anything anything harder for the federal government? I do not understand.
Speaker 1: Send me an email with your thoughts or your complaints.
Speaker 1: I will reply, I promise. Paul at Skyews dot com
Speaker 1: dot au all right, but I just believe. Why not
Speaker 1: give it a go. Let's see how it goes. She
Speaker 1: makes terrible decisions, I'll be first in line. And you
Speaker 1: know how loud my voice can get in the meantime.
Speaker 1: Good luck to her and strength and love to wear mum.
Speaker 1: All right, quick break back with more pleay to talk
Speaker 1: about here tonight. Nigel Farras joins us in a couple
Speaker 1: of moments time here on Paul Murray Live. Don't forget
Speaker 1: you can always jump on the socials anytime when we
Speaker 1: always give you a little preview on the Facebook page
Speaker 1: about who's coming up each and every night. Thanks for watching.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into conversation right now with Michael
Speaker 1: Kroger leads you to the Liberal Party in Victoria and
Speaker 1: a man who holds his own here on Sky News,
Speaker 1: but more importantly is right by Paul and Hanson's side
Speaker 1: when it comes to all things one Nation in Queensland
Speaker 1: and around the country, the wonderful James Ashby. So, Michael,
Speaker 1: what did I get wrong about the new leader of
Speaker 1: the Liberal Party.
Speaker 9: No, I think you've got nearly all of that right, mate.
Speaker 9: I think that's all pretty true. I thought she had
Speaker 9: a very impressive start today. I mean, look, let's put
Speaker 9: everything aside. The next three years in this country will
Speaker 9: be about the state of the economy. And it certainly
Speaker 9: helps when your leader has a master's in tax and accounting.
Speaker 9: Tax is very very complicated subject, and she's got a
Speaker 9: master's degree. So you're talking with someone pretty sophisticated. And
Speaker 9: she's also a very good communicator, so I think she
Speaker 9: understands that. She's pretty tough and mate, as you said,
Speaker 9: her background is just fantastic in the modern era. I mean,
Speaker 9: no offense to albow and other professional politicians who've climbed
Speaker 9: the ladder all the way, which is great. This woman
Speaker 9: I mean to be a shareer's cook of all things,
Speaker 9: and the other things she's done. It's just what an
Speaker 9: extraordinary life experience sport in Nigeria, what an extraordinary life
Speaker 9: experience to get to the top of lieral parties. No
Speaker 9: mean for she've beaten a very outstanding candidate in Angus Taylor.
Speaker 9: So Matte, I think you got that. I think you
Speaker 9: got that pretty right. I think she's made a very
Speaker 9: good start.
Speaker 1: Now, James, has your inbox been filled with people that
Speaker 1: are sending me messages saying that's it, I'm done changing
Speaker 1: party and again, Look, I get why people have this
Speaker 1: sort of reaction, right. I've yelled the telly when the
Speaker 1: tigers are getting flogged what's sixty nil or whatever it
Speaker 1: was on the weekend. I've screamed and bellowed when you
Speaker 1: know something goes wrong in a pit stop, in a formula.
Speaker 1: I get it, right, I get it. It's your team.
Speaker 1: You want nothing but the best. So I'm never going
Speaker 1: to tap down somebody's passions or believe any of that stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: and don't believe any of the dog whistle garbage about
Speaker 1: somebody or anyone who's going to try to pretend that
Speaker 1: that's what I've done tonight. Right, it's not true. Right,
Speaker 1: we're all part of the one big fire up here.
Speaker 1: But what do you think about Susan Lay as the
Speaker 1: leader at least sorry, as the leader? What does mean
Speaker 1: and is it also a difficult question to answer before
Speaker 1: we know who's even her no shadow cabinet and how
Speaker 1: she's going to run the show.
Speaker 2: Well, I do want to wish her all the best.
Speaker 4: The whole country is reliant on the Liberal Party selecting
Speaker 4: somebody who's going to do very well.
Speaker 2: We need that.
Speaker 4: One nation not going to be government anytime soon. So
Speaker 4: I do want to see Susan Lay do well. But
Speaker 4: the reason why she had to explain her history is
Speaker 4: because nobody really knows much about her. She has been
Speaker 4: on the front bench for quite some time. I would
Speaker 4: almost describe Susan Lee as somewhat of a chameleon because
Speaker 4: she blends. No one knows anything about her, and when
Speaker 4: she has sort of come out of the shadows, it
Speaker 4: has been for things where she's made mistakes. She was
Speaker 4: the first Liberal person to back the banning of sheep exports.
Speaker 4: She was forced to explain herself today. There she was
Speaker 4: again forced to explain herself over the Palestinian issue, where
Speaker 4: she backed Palestine at that time, and again she's had
Speaker 4: to explain herself. We've had to deal with her as
Speaker 4: Environment Minister when she was in cabinet under the Morrison
Speaker 4: government over environmental issues, trying to get minds up and
Speaker 4: approved here in Queensland. She didn't have the courage that
Speaker 4: a leader requires to sign something off and then explain herself,
Speaker 4: you know, debate those people who want to say you
Speaker 4: shouldn't have done that. So I haven't seen any courage
Speaker 4: out of this new leader.
Speaker 2: I like Susan. She's intelligent, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 4: When we have conversations, because we're both pilots, it generally
Speaker 4: goes to aviation. But as a leader, you cannot be
Speaker 4: a windsock on an airfield.
Speaker 2: You cannot swing in the breeze.
Speaker 4: You've got to stand for something, and as Ted O'Brien
Speaker 4: said today, Ted was very clear on the vision he's
Speaker 4: got for the Liberal Party. I hope that his deputy
Speaker 4: position to her strengthens her armor and she does very well.
Speaker 4: The country is relying on Susan Lee. Wish are all
Speaker 4: the best, but we will as one nation also call
Speaker 4: her to account when she gets things wrong.
Speaker 1: Michael, can I ask a question which may take the
Speaker 1: rest of the show to answer, but do you best
Speaker 1: not to? We've got Nigel and a few more other
Speaker 1: topics here. Obviously there are square pegs.
Speaker 9: Nigel hasn't been in the news.
Speaker 1: That's all right. The satellite time comes out of my
Speaker 1: con comes out of my pocket. There are square pegs
Speaker 1: and round holes, right, So sometimes there might be something
Speaker 1: that you think is absolutely the right answer, the right
Speaker 1: policy prescription, but it doesn't fit into the square peg
Speaker 1: or the round hole of what the election is telling you,
Speaker 1: what the polls are telling you. And I'm not going
Speaker 1: to pick a specific policy, but how do you know
Speaker 1: the difference between something that you're willing to lose multiple
Speaker 1: times over but it is a fundamental thing that you
Speaker 1: believe is better than everything else out there? End those
Speaker 1: moments where you have to move on. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know whether you move on from things just because they
Speaker 1: failed once, or whether the square peg becomes a round
Speaker 1: hole because people all get rounder the older they get.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's made it's a great it's actually a great
Speaker 9: question and the answer is vague, but essentially it's this,
Speaker 9: what does your party stand for? Why was it founded,
Speaker 9: what is it believed, What's what's been? What's the core,
Speaker 9: what's the spine of the Liberal Party? What has it
Speaker 9: been for eighty year? Is why do people vote for
Speaker 9: the Liberal Party? Why are the vote for the Labor Party?
Speaker 9: What are the vote for one nation? What is the
Speaker 9: what is the you know, compelling argument that that through
Speaker 9: your through your history has led people to support you,
Speaker 9: and those principles and values of the Liberal Party are
Speaker 9: well established. We're getting into trouble when our core values
Speaker 9: are not the major part of the political debate. So
Speaker 9: if you give away, you know, the economic debate as
Speaker 9: the primary debate in this country and allowed to be
Speaker 9: about healthcare or the cost of nuclear then you're going
Speaker 9: to tend to do badly. And let's be frank made
Speaker 9: everything in this country, as it does in every country,
Speaker 9: depends on how wealthy economy is going. Every social service,
Speaker 9: every defense, every assistance to the poor and the underprivilege
Speaker 9: and the needy depends on how wealthy economy goes. And
Speaker 9: that's why it should always be the primary debate but
Speaker 9: the Liberal Party will never win a spendethon because government
Speaker 9: bunds are not unlimited. And this, you know, this la
Speaker 9: la land of economics that the western nations of the
Speaker 9: world are in at the minute, where you just keep
Speaker 9: printing money and keep running up debt. There's a day
Speaker 9: of reckoning coming. You know it's coming in Victoria because
Speaker 9: we've got a budget here on the twentieth of May
Speaker 9: where there'll be slashing and burning by the Allen government
Speaker 9: who are basically bankrupted Victoria. So the answer to question
Speaker 9: is what are our core beliefs? Now? You see, I
Speaker 9: think nuclear a good policy, important, Polish should stay, should
Speaker 9: be in private sector hands with limited assistance, etc. But
Speaker 9: it's never been core to the Liberal Party's brand offering.
Speaker 9: You know, Mensie spoke about it, others have spoken about it,
Speaker 9: but we never did anything about nuclear between thirteen and
Speaker 9: twenty two when we're in government. So is it a
Speaker 9: core value of the Liberal Party? Has it been the
Speaker 9: reason I joined the Liberal Party or anyone joined the
Speaker 9: Little Party?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 9: But free enterprise, free markets, freedom of speech, individual responsibility, security,
Speaker 9: national defense, well managed budget and economy. There have been
Speaker 9: the core principles of the Liberal Party ever since Men'si's
Speaker 9: founded us in nineteen forty four.
Speaker 1: All right, James, what do the new ministers tell you
Speaker 1: about the potential way this government goes in the next
Speaker 1: three years. I think that rewarding, say a communications minister
Speaker 1: who wanted to censor the Internet by now making them
Speaker 1: the person in charge of the law says something. I
Speaker 1: think that freeing the distraction of aged care for the
Speaker 1: free beloving sports minister now become the communications minister, who,
Speaker 1: of course main form of communication is social media, is
Speaker 1: a bit of a sign as the message they're trying
Speaker 1: to send, as well as of course the endless loveiness
Speaker 1: in and around the ABC. But what about some of
Speaker 1: these other appointments. What do they tell you about what
Speaker 1: Albo wants to achieve in the next three years.
Speaker 4: Well, there's that old get somewhat you just set up
Speaker 4: in ten seconds. It's called failing up. Some of these
Speaker 4: people get rewarded for poor behavior or even bad behavior
Speaker 4: in that sense. But the issue that I see moving forward, Look,
Speaker 4: they're going to get some of their worst controversial legislation.
Speaker 2: Out of the way first. It's always the way.
Speaker 4: That's why the Liberal Party are having their arguments now
Speaker 4: It's why the National Party have had theirs and bad
Speaker 4: legislation is always best dealt with at the start of
Speaker 4: a term, isn't it amazing? Though what we'll see is
Speaker 4: greater debt, We'll see greater regulation. The cost to do
Speaker 4: anything moving forward will only increase, so your dollarbise less
Speaker 4: moving forward. Would My greatest concern that we're going to
Speaker 4: see in this next three years of parliament, given the
Speaker 4: suite of ministers who've been elevated, is that there isn't
Speaker 4: a great deal of experience amongst them all, and those
Speaker 4: with any experience.
Speaker 2: Haven't really done very very much in their term.
Speaker 4: It's going to result in more to fix up after
Speaker 4: this three year term if the coalition and other Conservative
Speaker 4: parties can get their act together, work together to get
Speaker 4: rid of this bad government. If I sum it up,
Speaker 4: you know, you remember that Van Milli Vanilli, the greatest
Speaker 4: fake ban on the planet. They were never seen again
Speaker 4: when they were discovered to be so bad and fake.
Speaker 4: This bloke was discovered during an election cycle that he
Speaker 4: was fake. He stood for nothing, and yet what do
Speaker 4: we do We rewarded with him with another three years.
Speaker 4: I don't understand the psyche of some Australians.
Speaker 1: Well that's it. But you know, I respeak to the
Speaker 1: old the mob is always right, the people are always right.
Speaker 1: So you know, when they choose you, they're right. Well,
Speaker 1: when they go the other way, that's fine, that's fine, James.
Speaker 1: But right, last one here I want to ask about,
Speaker 1: which is AI interesting? Poll in the Essential today, the
Speaker 1: Turnbull Times. Of course, sixty percent of people view the
Speaker 1: use of AI in Australian industry as something that's going
Speaker 1: to cut costs but more importantly cut jobs. Now, we
Speaker 1: just went through an election where nobody wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about it because, you know, complicated and stuff and not
Speaker 1: as easy as I'm hardly a planstic cat or the
Speaker 1: ugod Book of music just around another leader. So you know,
Speaker 1: this may be a slightly more complicated conversation than some
Speaker 1: people want to say. But what does that tell you, Michael,
Speaker 1: either about how businesses need to use it responsibly or
Speaker 1: is the truth that people are afraid of it? Because yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what it actually means.
Speaker 2: Mate, that's absolutely true.
Speaker 9: I don't look, you know, there are turning points in
Speaker 9: your life. I've never seen anything like the power of AI,
Speaker 9: nor has anyone. Do we need books anymore. Do we
Speaker 9: need tutors? Will we need teachers? Will we need university professors?
Speaker 9: Will we need academics? Will we need.
Speaker 2: TV hosts now that's it.
Speaker 1: Artists look at.
Speaker 9: It, or commentators. Will we need singers, will we need actors?
Speaker 1: Models?
Speaker 9: I mean, the power of this thing is just unbelievable.
Speaker 9: It's going to replace humans in so many fields. It's
Speaker 9: just gobsmaking. It's breathtaking that you can just ask all
Speaker 9: these questions, you can get long detail answers to everything.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 2: It was in the car.
Speaker 9: They are one of my sons, and we were asking
Speaker 9: Ai where are we and they were telling us exactly
Speaker 9: where we were on the Eastern Freeway and the power
Speaker 9: is just like nothing we've ever seen. So yeah, it
Speaker 9: doesn't mean there's going to be big change in the
Speaker 9: world in the next ten years. Absolutely there are absolutely all.
Speaker 1: Right, good stuff, lads, appreciate it. We'll talk again next
Speaker 1: week where yes, it will be a human conversation happening live.
Speaker 1: There'll no be waiting for generate, generate generate. Maybe in
Speaker 1: a few years, well see what happens. Thank you guys,
Speaker 1: do appreciate it all right, The wonderful Nigel Farras joins
Speaker 1: a straight out of the break again big News at
Speaker 1: British politics. It is turning to him on the issues
Speaker 1: and in the polls. Perhaps the next Prime Minister is
Speaker 1: exclusive on Paul Murray life.
Speaker 10: It's time for the man who's never boring, the leader
Speaker 10: of the Reform Party in the United Kingdom, and our
Speaker 10: to your friend, maybe the next Prime Minister of the
Speaker 10: United Kingdom who keeps the roll up, the head of
Speaker 10: the Reform Party none other than the wonderful Nigel Faras.
Speaker 1: Nigel love you to see you. Things keep rolling your way,
Speaker 1: not just the results, but the issue you have been
Speaker 1: bang on, bang on, bang on, bang on for as
Speaker 1: long as that the UK should be free from Europe
Speaker 1: is about immigration, that you should have control of your borders.
Speaker 1: And here is the UK Prime Minister trying to sound
Speaker 1: like you. Let's see the tape.
Speaker 11: Will finally take back control of our borders and close
Speaker 11: the book on a squalid chapter for our politics, our
Speaker 11: economy and our country.
Speaker 1: What's your responsible?
Speaker 8: Well, he spent his whole career as a human rights lawyer,
Speaker 8: as head of our Prosecution Service, as leader of the
Speaker 8: Labor Party, openly campaigning for free movement of people, open borders.
Speaker 8: Anyone that criticizes mass immigration is a biggot and a
Speaker 8: really bad dude. He's actually prevented people from being deported
Speaker 8: despite the fact they were serious criminals because of the
Speaker 8: European Human Rights law. And now because he gets an
Speaker 8: absolute pounding on the first of May from reform, suddenly
Speaker 8: he believes in control. He understands that it's caused mass immigrations,
Speaker 8: caused huge damage to our economy, to people's lives, and
Speaker 8: any conclusion you can reach is a total and utter fraud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and every I mean again him is so obviously
Speaker 1: responding to an election that happened in the past couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, right, because where was this two weeks before,
Speaker 1: two months before? Where was this during an election campaign?
Speaker 1: And the thing that these guys never ever ever understand, right,
Speaker 1: is that they think that, oh, it's all about the
Speaker 1: small boats and the illegal immigration. No, it's also about
Speaker 1: adding hundreds of thousands, name millions of people to every
Speaker 1: queue in the country, so everyone who's already in the queue,
Speaker 1: that's what irritates them.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, we have to build a new house
Speaker 8: in this country, a new house every two minutes. Think
Speaker 8: about that. Just to cope with current levels of immigration.
Speaker 8: Our populations increased by ten million over the course of
Speaker 8: the last twenty years. So no wonder you can't get
Speaker 8: an appointment with your doctor now one of the roads
Speaker 8: are clogged. It really has damaged people's way of life
Speaker 8: and it's made them poorer too. But look, Starmer, having
Speaker 8: said all these things, Firstly, it's going to hurt him
Speaker 8: because it'll split the left. There'll be more people voting green,
Speaker 8: voting for the Gaza independence, There'll be other independent left
Speaker 8: wing candidates that could really hurt the labor vote because
Speaker 8: these guys, they're a small percentage, but these guys believe
Speaker 8: in complete open global borders, a bit like the old
Speaker 8: Trotsky It's going back over one hundred years. And as
Speaker 8: far as my supporters are concerned, they're going to look
Speaker 8: at this. Are they going to say, oh, it's all okay,
Speaker 8: we don't need Farryes anymore. Starmer's are man. No, they
Speaker 8: won't believe him either. He's in real, real trouble. And
Speaker 8: I have to say he lacks total sincerity. He's all
Speaker 8: about power for the pursuit of power, not actually what
Speaker 8: you can do with it. And I think people will
Speaker 8: see through this. In fact, they have already what.
Speaker 1: A thumping cartoon in the Times of London. By the way,
Speaker 1: if we can have a look here at the depiction
Speaker 1: of the Prime Minister presumably having a conversation with the
Speaker 1: good British people. Here we risk becoming an island of strangers.
Speaker 1: The person responds, I don't know who you are anymore.
Speaker 1: A very good point. I didn't know it was a smoker,
Speaker 1: by the way, But anyway, minor detail, how do normal
Speaker 1: people react to this sudden change? Do you think.
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 8: The part of the cartoon, Paul is I'm known when
Speaker 8: I'm out campaigning for wearing yellow Cordroi trousers right, my
Speaker 8: apology and overcoat with a velvet jacket and having a
Speaker 8: pint and a fact, that's me. I've got Union Jack
Speaker 8: tidd as well. That's me with Star Wars head on it.
Speaker 8: That's why the cartoons really funny. They're trying to imitate me.
Speaker 8: But you know what I said, it's something you can't
Speaker 8: out pharage farage because if you do, you're whistling in
Speaker 8: the wind.
Speaker 1: And there will be plenty of people who think that
Speaker 1: there's you know, a little bit of the farage magic,
Speaker 1: a little bit of the ideas if we can shave
Speaker 1: two percent here, four percent there, then when then basically
Speaker 1: we know in a first past the post, if we
Speaker 1: can make thirty four thirty and we can make thirty
Speaker 1: thirty one, then we don't have to deal with this yere.
Speaker 1: But I think when people can sense momentum, they do
Speaker 1: and I think that they're going to get behind something
Speaker 1: that's going to actually change things, because you can have
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people saying, well, here's my version
Speaker 1: of the same, or here's my version of the same
Speaker 1: in different rapping, and then there's another person who's saying, hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, you know the other two emperors aren't
Speaker 1: wearing any clothes.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean in terms of the narrative of
Speaker 8: British politics. So someone said to me this morning, you know,
Speaker 8: we are all parajistas now.
Speaker 2: So you know, the choice at the.
Speaker 8: Next election is you can vote for the you know,
Speaker 8: you can vote for the real deal or go for
Speaker 8: the fakes. And that's why we've got momentum and reform
Speaker 8: because we genuinely say what we think and we mean
Speaker 8: it and we kind of almost don't care whether you
Speaker 8: like it.
Speaker 1: Or not.
Speaker 8: That's what we believe in. There are principles and we're
Speaker 8: unbudgeable on that. And I think at last people are
Speaker 8: saying in great numbers, right, you know what, this is
Speaker 8: the Party of a Change, And another poll out this
Speaker 8: morning putting us, can you believe it, ten points in
Speaker 8: the lead. We're ten points ahead of the governing Labor
Speaker 8: Party in the current polls, thirteen or fourteen points ahead
Speaker 8: of the Conservatives, who are falling off a cliff. Now, look,
Speaker 8: you know, I'm not a scene sayer. I can't predict
Speaker 8: what will happen over the next months or years. But
Speaker 8: right now we are in a most incredibly strong position.
Speaker 8: And historically what is going on has just never happened
Speaker 8: in our modern democratic history. So it's a very exciting.
Speaker 1: Time, but also such an important message to those who
Speaker 1: share our politics. But the idea that of the things
Speaker 1: you believe in, you must be unshakable, right, and if
Speaker 1: you've got a movement that is built on absolutely unshakable
Speaker 1: central values, then the rest of it becomes tactics. Right now,
Speaker 1: as you know, we're sort of in this conversation of
Speaker 1: the center right being in real trouble in terms of
Speaker 1: electoral fortunes in Australia. You spoke before about the need
Speaker 1: for happy warrior and I've been using that term a
Speaker 1: thousand times in our chats of recent times. But again
Speaker 1: for those who are in and around the decision making
Speaker 1: process on the center right in Australia, I think if
Speaker 1: they don't have those core views before you even ask
Speaker 1: the question what they are, then they'll never actually achieve anything.
Speaker 8: Right, No, that's right, And I mean looking at the
Speaker 8: splits that are there in Australia right now. I mean
Speaker 8: it's not for a shortage of money. Is it because
Speaker 8: one individual has been pumping a lot of money into
Speaker 8: sort of small C conservative ideas. No, you know, and
Speaker 8: it all looks terribly wasteful the whole thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: Do I really believe that Australia is this sort of
Speaker 8: center left softy? I mean, I just don't believe it.
Speaker 8: But somehow someone has got to come along and spread
Speaker 8: a bit of optimism, spread a bit of happiness. And
Speaker 8: if you look at all the upsurging popular small C
Speaker 8: conservative movements, they all have leaders that actually express a
Speaker 8: bit of joy, that actually express a bit of optimism,
Speaker 8: a bit of sunshine and That's what people want because
Speaker 8: they see all around them the values they've grown up with,
Speaker 8: the things they really do understand and care about. They
Speaker 8: see them under threat from modern day wokery and much else.
Speaker 8: And the way through it isn't just a moon, isn't
Speaker 8: just a complain. It's to have a vision of where
Speaker 8: you want to get to bloody Earth.
Speaker 1: These chats are so valuable. Lots of important people, but
Speaker 1: most importantly normal people are watching them both live on
Speaker 1: the telly and for many days after online. Thank you mate,
Speaker 1: appreciate it and I appreciate the privilege of talking to you.
Speaker 1: Good on you, Nigel. Thank you Nigel for us leader
Speaker 1: of the Reform Partty in the UK. That's our show
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