1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Back in the Phantoms there for a show about the 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: big dogs the Rucks in twenty twenty six, and of 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: course we do have the big dogs in the studio 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: to talk about said big dogs. Five names Simmy in Kingsley, 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Thomas Wilson, Welcome and another big dog met the Phantom. 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: But the Chief is here, the Long Dog, the small Pup, 7 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: the Jack Russell of the Phantoms. There Chiuaa, the Chieftain. Oh, 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: welcome the Chief, Chiuela, the Chief Chuaa. 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 2: Jess thanks man. 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: Yep, the Rucks. We've gone through defenders and midfielders. You 11 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: can go back and check those out on the co 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: Sports YouTube channel wherever you get your podcasts as well. 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 2: It's all about the rucks today. Chief sure is a 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: bit of a different look this year. Show Phantom. Yeah, 15 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: well maybe. Usually rucks are pretty pretty stock standard. It's 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: either you go on those premiums or you're deciding to 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: go something different. I wonder if this year will be 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: any different for us, because there are if you have 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: been living under a rock, several rule changes coming into 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: this season that seem to be focused on adjusting the 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: rucks the most in terms of how they set up 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: around the ground. How they can attack the rock contest 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: and maybe eventually how they score super Coach points if 24 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: it does sort of impact them the way we think 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 2: it will. 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: And we had Freco the Freakman, former friend of the 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: show and Coach Sports. Where's it come back on it? 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: But now we'll call him a friend. So as part 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: of cod sports Super Coach preseason camp, he was answering 30 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 1: all super Coach questions at the Code Sports website on Wednesday, 31 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: talked about some of the stats that could be affected 32 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: as a result of those changes that will go through them, 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: and talk about the names that could be associated with 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: potential increase or potential full in Supercoach scoring this year. 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: Now, there are a few rules to talk about. Five names. 36 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: You've got them there for us. 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: Yep, So actually a couple of three main chain just 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: here for rock contests in twenty twenty six, which we're 39 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: going to see from Saturday onwards. State of Origin game, 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: So keep a watching out on that. If you're watching. 41 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: Umpires will no longer bounce the ball to start playing 42 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: senestuere rock contests. Instead, they're going to throw it up 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: in the air. So do we call it center our 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 3: cbas anymore? 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? They're still called CBA's apparently, according to Freak o 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: Interested on another podcast, that's. 47 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: One thing at sennestquare ball UPS's not here. Competing ruts 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: will not be allowed to cross the center line before 49 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: engaging with their opponent. And finally, umpires, can we start 50 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: play around the ground without a nominated ruck being present? 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: Would be very interesting. 52 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: So we've already seen a couple of the ruts that 53 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: Matt Dawn said with the I guess the center line. 54 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: One he gave away like three or so three kicks 55 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: in like a minute or something, and he said, like 56 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 3: really quick ones that intra club and it was old 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: Matt Simon. It was by like a mill, like a 58 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 3: sent like a centimeter or something put the line. I 59 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 3: think Crows of the need to said like Lockie mcandrew's 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: been like jumping all over Riley O'Brien because of this, 61 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 3: you know, one week and then yes, so there's a 62 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: bit of yees. So, I mean it's already some rats 63 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: are already going a bit hard. 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 2: I could jump over Ralio. We're also going to have 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: less or less throwings in theory as well with the 66 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: yeah last touch, So. 67 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably need some rules in here because Chief the 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: Traever does cross the line a fair bit when it comes. 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 2: To taking her from super Coach. But they're the rules. Yep. 70 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting to see what actually happens 71 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: in terms of specific names, specific stats in twenty twenty six. 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: We're going to not know the full answer until we 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: start seeing the games and seeing the results in the numbers. 74 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: But the Freak did mention at code Sports yesterday stat 75 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: ruck hard ball gets, which is to take the ball 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: our of ruck. He says, they are the ones that 77 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: could be impacted given there won't be as many stoppages. Says, 78 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: and also it's much harder to take the ball our 79 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: of ruck if you are jumping. Cherry can't use his 80 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: body back into someone as such, let the ball bounce, 81 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: take it or handle or grab it out the ruck 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: because he's jumping. The leaders in that stat last year 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: from the Freak Max Gorn twenty eight, Kieran Briggs twenty three, 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: and Cherry Marshall on eighteen. That's the top four Gorn, Briggs, 85 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: Cherry and Marshall. Interestingly, he says Brodie Grundi only had 86 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: three oh, Luke Jackson only had two oh Okay, so 87 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: Brodie Gundi obviously went on that massive tear. We know 88 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: he's probably the best ball winning, pure ball winning ruckman 89 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: in the comp in terms of winning the ball around 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the ground still score well without those big stats that 91 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: hardball gets at the stoppage that was helping the other 92 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: names score so well. He also said, you know, he 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: when asked about a player that probably sees a decrease, 94 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: he does say Cherry. 95 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: Ooh to know. 96 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: So I've said, so far Baiden has fade the big three. 97 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't got to the forward podcast. Maybe she's 98 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: was next. 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: But the stats say no player alight on stoppage scoring 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: more than Tristan Sherry last season. 101 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so we are thinking stoppages are reduced and 102 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: he's the guy that's the biggest scorer. 103 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: Quote card this up from the free You know it's 104 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: a secondhanded quote. He doesn't offer much in general play. Wow, 105 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: only twenty three point nine percent of his points were 106 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: one in transition. Now we think the transition game is 107 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: the ball's going to move quicker as of a standing 108 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,799 Speaker 1: rule as well in the game, not just what happens 109 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: in the ruck. 110 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: So yep, he's okay. We've had a lot we've gone, Yeah, 111 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: that's good to the rules team, and I think at 112 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: the end of the day, though, fandom, this is all 113 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: kind of theoretical discussion. There's all theoretical discussions. We have 114 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: no idea how this is going to look, and as 115 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: you said, you know, maybe a millimeter over at this 116 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: point in the season, they're trying to adjudicate it really hard. 117 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: Maybe that's what we see early in the season from 118 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: the umpires as well, and then it could relax as 119 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: the season goes on. So we never know really what's 120 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 2: going to happen until we see it in practice. But 121 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting in state of origin and 122 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 2: in you know, just going forward into these official and 123 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: unofficial practice match it's going to be interesting to see fan. 124 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: But let's look at last year's winning strategy from the 125 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: winner last season? Was it where they mixing it up? 126 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: Did they go double premium? Did they what did they do? 127 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: They went Tristan Sherry and Tom Dakooning was the partnership 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: there last year? 129 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Obviously the only starting line this guy got right as well, 130 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: you can say that because he won't so. 131 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, fair enough. And then Harry Boyd on the bench. 132 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 2: So a guy that thinking, what did he play one 133 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: game for the year or something like that. So yeah, 134 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: obviously block of the centry. It's always a tough line though, Rucks. 135 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: We've only got two that we can pick there plus 136 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: the flex, so possibly three options if you do want 137 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: to go the ruck in the flex as well. It 138 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 2: is always a tough line to knuckle down though. We've 139 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: only got two bytes at the cherry there. 140 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 4: As I said, two bites of the cherry. 141 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. But fantom have been going through 142 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: our positional rankings here, well, your positional rankings and tell 143 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: us who we should be picking for the season. I'm 144 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: very interested now that you've run through those stats. Who 145 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: you've got as the fanoms top five all the season 146 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: in the rock Park. I've just changed it now on 147 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: this we have just changed it. We've made a big change. 148 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: You saw. 149 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 2: I see my team during the week. 150 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: Had Luke Jackson and Tom daconing in no, none of 151 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: the big dogs, and then we're going to shift back. 152 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: Towards a big dog. 153 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: I thought the freco said I after going back over 154 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: the numbers, after talking to you, chief, you were very 155 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: excited about this. 156 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: I was. 157 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Seven percent of teams at the moment, by far the 158 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: biggest supercoach scorer through a stretch there in twenty twenty six. 159 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: Brody Grundy, I'm going to go back in my team 160 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Number one's is Yep, you're on five fan, I'm going 161 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: to Fiel. I'm going to squeez him back in. You 162 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: know what my seven percent of teams. You told me that, No, 163 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: he's a point of difference. 164 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: Is he unique? Days with five? 165 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: I just go. 166 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: Rody Grundy. 167 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, early by We've talked about it many times. The 168 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: early buyers people are worried about we should we should 169 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: really off some scores of his last We're. 170 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Not worried about the early buyers here in the lab, No, 171 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean that that's yeah, I mean when. 172 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: We're worried about what the rule changes me for Jerry 173 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: at the moment. 174 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a That's an amazing stat though, that Grundy 175 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: didn't have those hardball rut gets or whatever they were called. Yeah. 176 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: So remember the thing that we thought he was going 177 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: to get to Grundy to Hundi's we predicted him. 178 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: We always got they got one. 179 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: You know what, that run home is absolutely massive. 180 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: Now I'm going to speak a little bit later about 181 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: draft rankings as we have been doing as well, but 182 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: in the off season must have been ahead of my 183 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: time because he was my number one in the off 184 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: season when we did our first draft rankings. He was 185 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: my number one pick this season the top score. So 186 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: I think I've changed my mind about a hundred times 187 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: on that one now. But Brodie Gunny might have to 188 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: come back in my team fair the flip flip after 189 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: the bye last year one fifty nine, one seventy nine, 190 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: one twenty seven, one fifty four, one fifty three, one 191 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: thirty seven, two hundred ninety nine and one hundred and four. 192 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: And I I think, well, I was going to say, oh, 193 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: they've got told fort up, but that doesn't matter. If 194 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 3: the round doesn't matter, that would be very fun. 195 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the thing. We get to see him. 196 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: If he scores a low score, you're just not going 197 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 2: to go there, I think, fantom. And if he goes high, 198 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: everyone will be jumping across and that won't be seven 199 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: percent anymore, that'll be seventy percent. 200 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: So pretty much. 201 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: And we know super Coach scores thirty three hundred points 202 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: award at every game, so if some of his rock 203 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: opponents are going to not we know Ruckman has scored 204 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: well and super Coach normally, if some of them are 205 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: going to be brought down because of the decrease in stoppages, 206 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: that someone else got to have those points. So could 207 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: there be more points available for Brodie Grande in the 208 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: rack match ups as well? 209 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: Maybe I do just wonder though he's not the biggest 210 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 2: sleep of these days all Grund so in terms of yes, 211 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: he's not getting that particular stat but I do think 212 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 2: he benefited greatly from the wrestling style of yes, I've 213 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: run on forward and pushing before he gets the hit out. 214 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 2: So I wonder if as much as he's going to 215 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: gain from some areas, maybe he's subtracted in other areas 216 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: of the new rule changes. 217 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: But for him, let's get to your second player number two, 218 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: Max Gorn. Hard to go past the Bilbom Skipper. I'm 219 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: not going to probably fit him in my starting team, 220 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: not going to go the two top price rucks. It's 221 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: hard to see him. If he loses somewhere, he's going 222 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: to gain somewhere else. Given what he does around the 223 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: ground behind the ball especially, I think it's hard to 224 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: see him being pushed out of that top three in 225 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: total scorers. 226 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: Number three, Luke Jackson. 227 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: He's been in my team, in your team for most 228 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: of the preseason. 229 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: Chief now then. 230 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 4: Chief not having his team. If we talked you around, 231 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: are you worried about the midfielder Gorney that we're. 232 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: Numb between now we've all said, we've all said number 233 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: one as number one ruck, but he's almost been the 234 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: number one screw in the competition as a ruck that 235 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: pinch hits in the midfield. Who knows, but I think 236 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: that is the exciting part. It's still some unknown in 237 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 1: terms of how much ball can he win, what's the 238 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: points share if he plays as a midfielder, how much 239 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: ruck time will he get? But at this point still 240 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: at number three because I think I think, regardless of 241 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: where he plays, going to have a big impact. 242 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: I think the facts that they're throwing up the ball 243 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: quicker now, which is another sort of rule we didn't 244 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: touch on heaps, but like the fact that they're not 245 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: going to wait for people to get to the contest 246 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 2: before they're throwing it up. I think Luke Jackson benefits 247 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: from that, not only because of his fitness, but if 248 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: he's playing as has been suggested in the preseason as 249 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: a mid ruck where he gets to play some inside 250 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: minutes plus the ruck. I think when he's the midfielder, 251 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: that would be the plan that he if he's playing 252 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: is the midfielder, he'll still if he's there at the 253 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: ruck contest and you've got Lumber and Sean Darcy sort 254 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 2: of hovering behind the contest, I think that would be 255 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: the plan. He's going to be out the stoppage, so 256 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 2: he then becomes the ruck as the midfielder, which he's 257 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: then a ruck anyway. So I think that's the sort 258 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: of benefit and maybe something that Freer could be looking 259 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: at in terms of playing him there. So yeah, huge 260 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: on Luke Jackson as well. I think he'll be a 261 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 2: huge beneficiary this year. 262 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: Number four. Now talk about the change, it's not going 263 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: to the game is not going to change significantly. It's 264 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: not going to go out there and look like a 265 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: new game in Tristan Shry's not going to know how 266 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: to play. 267 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 2: Still got him in the top five, number four at 268 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: this point, I mean, that's that's worthy of another top 269 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: for too high. 270 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: You reckon fourth fourth, yep, this seems like this could 271 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: be that means you're fading him for sure. Then yeah, 272 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: you'd have to him yep now, and if it goes wrong, 273 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: I'll be blaming the freak. 274 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 2: So you listen to Freak. This is on you. 275 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay, thanks Number five Yep, Tom de Cooney 276 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: my man TV killed. If anyone is going to benefit 277 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: from the ruck rules and can jump over and get 278 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: every photo that's taken of Tom Deaconey in the ruck, 279 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: he's a meter and a half above the next player. 280 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: If it's going to be for anyone in terms of 281 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: having impact in the ruck, I think it's him. The 282 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: only thing we still don't know about is just what 283 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: happens with the ruck split at Saint Kilda with roand Marshall. 284 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: Max King's not going to quite be ready. Chief you 285 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: said that the other day. Does that mean Roan Marshall 286 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: plays more forward? 287 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: Begin with ye Tom decane number five Brundy into Coning. 288 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:56,719 Speaker 2: Is that the winning play? That's huge? I mean we 289 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: need to discuss I mean we're going to discuss this quickly. 290 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: But like Tristan Sherry, you know fourth overall you're saying, fade, 291 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: what do you think five names? Because that's a huge call. 292 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: Like he's fifty percent owned by the competition. I'm saying, now, 293 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: what are you saying, Chief, I'm on the fence, not 294 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: usually on the fence. Names on the fence is something different. 295 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: Willing for a quote card if it's there for the taking. 296 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: But I don't know how this is gonna like he's 297 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: If I was to at the end of last season, 298 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 2: before any rules, I would have said Sherry would have 299 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: been the number one guy, like in Super Coach, probably 300 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: this year. So I don't want to just rule him 301 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: out because of these sudden rule changes, Like I think 302 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: a guy of his quality is going to adjust and 303 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: figure it out. And he can still jump as well 304 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: as Wressell. So yeah, it's just like the stats you 305 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: mentioned in terms of getting so much at the contest. 306 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: Can he adjust his game and now get involved around 307 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: the ground instead and be as impactful without you know, 308 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: the contested numbers, without maybe a few less tackles. But yeah, 309 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: I think in terms of starting him, given those risks, 310 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: I might join the guys, although his early schedules, like 311 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: early schedules petrifying. 312 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: He just talked around in circles and you're back on 313 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: the fence, So what give the listeners something? What do 314 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: you think I'm out, Oh there it is the chief, 315 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: that's it. Quote cut, I'm out, would use that for 316 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: a lot of things. 317 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: I'm all right, what else we have anyway else to consider? 318 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: There's some other premium. So just looking at ownership numbers, 319 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 2: Sherry fifty percent and all three of us considering the 320 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: fade at the moment, I wonder if we all get 321 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: scared off closer to round one we get but Luke 322 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: Jackson and second most owned, So I think people are 323 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: just on board the thinking in terms of the new 324 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 2: game style possibly and him being a beneficiary there and 325 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: also just a gun player in general. Twenty seven percent owned, 326 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: and then Maxie Gorn comes in third most owned. Tim 327 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: English is one that did not feature in your top five. 328 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: Shockingly in my opinion, I think he is another guy 329 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: that really gets himself involved in transition. It wouldn't surprise 330 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: me he's a top three ruck in twenty twenty six, 331 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: let alone way down outside the top five. They're fan 332 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: Tim English. 333 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, and we've spoken about him last three 334 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: or four years. Has the potential to you know, at 335 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: some point he thought this guy is gonna be the 336 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: one super coach truckman just can't or hasn't been able 337 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: to show that he can can score consistently at that 338 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: high level. Scores a good level, but he's not Sherry 339 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: Gorne Grundy level consistently in Super Coach. This guy was 340 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: scoring super Coach tons early double tons early in his career. 341 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: Not consistent Fan one hundred and eleven last year, one 342 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: hundred and eight, twenty twenty four and then oh hang 343 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: on one hundred and twenty eight from twenty three games 344 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: three doubt and Tannglish the last two years we're talking 345 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: about the last couple of years. Not in the top five, 346 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: all right, well, firmly against that, but I appreciate the 347 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: zenior team he is in the latest iteration, Well, well, 348 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 2: why don't we quickly talk about who we've got now, 349 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 2: because my current actually know he's not I've put Grundy 350 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 2: in mid show. So Grundy and Jackson at the moment. 351 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 2: But Grundy could just as easily be Tim English. So okay, 352 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: especially if he gets back to that one twenty out. 353 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 2: What's your ruck set up at the moment? 354 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 3: Well, since I'm fading, Cherry, do you want to do 355 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 3: it now? Do you want to get to my fell 356 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: feel later on? 357 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: For my maybe you can do it now. Maybe you 358 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: can do it now, because if he's in your lineup, 359 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: he's in my lineup. All right, let's go. 360 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 3: I'm rolling at the moment with Dante, who at the 361 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 3: tour and play one ruck and at this dage Dante's 362 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 3: ahead of Jordan Sweet. 363 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: Now huge news. That's is that there? We say, some 364 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: breaking news on the left. 365 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 4: We're kind of we've. 366 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: Hinted at it a little bit, you know, our Coast 367 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: falls reporting. But now he's at the moment, Dante's just ahead. 368 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: Now breaking news with five names. There's more of this 369 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 2: as well. 370 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: The relationship between you and Dundee really well, well the 371 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: keep track of the time gode chief for a couple 372 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: of weeks time. 373 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 2: Okay, something in the works there, wow, Vicentini, Yeah. 374 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: I reckon at the moment, I'm going to have dance 375 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 3: and Dante Asarto to free up cash. 376 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 2: Very nice. Three hundred k k CREDI K right, that 377 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: was fifty five last year. So he's the thought. I mean, 378 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: he's nearly what twenties twenty two, twenty three. 379 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: He had put on six heroes in the off season, 380 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 3: so he's like he's bulked up a bit he can, 381 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: he can move around the ground bed than sweet. He's 382 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: not Cherry first up, so that could be Oh, that 383 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: could be a bit of a tough one for him. 384 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 3: But then after that, it's Essendon, it's Essendon West Coast. 385 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 3: I think it's someone else who's pretty not a bad 386 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 3: little start. 387 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: I mean they've got a Yeah, we've talked about ports 388 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: running general and you can kind of if he plays 389 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: that sort of, you know, more of that less traditional 390 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 2: rock game around the ground than maybe he could also 391 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: be a beneficiary. But that's a bit cool. Yeah, five 392 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: names starting the mid price rock yep. Yeah, what's your 393 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 2: rock lineup? Though? Fan? Before we move on, I'm just trying. 394 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Like I said before, I'm just I did release my 395 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: team during the week and it was Jackson Daconing just 396 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: actually right now trying to find mate for Grundy. Yes, 397 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: by Dante, isn't he by the time we leave the room, 398 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: Rody Grundy, Tom Deconey? 399 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: Oh okay, interesting stuff. I'm concerned. As much as I 400 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: love this guy, but this TDK situation here, the rockshare 401 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: is going to be a factor at some point, and 402 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: it's a worry that might make me decide not to 403 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: start him and the buy in round four as well. 404 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: Having a few guys maybe a Naz or a Flanders 405 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 2: that share that buy may scare me off starting with TDK, 406 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: but he'll be on my watch list as well. 407 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 4: So do you go Jackson over TDK, then it's a 408 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: lot more money though. 409 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 2: That's the thing, because let's get into my mid price 410 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: power rankings now. Just a fair warning. I need a 411 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 2: bit of a warning before we start this because they're 412 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: gross him. They are gross this time. I can't find 413 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: the button in time, but they are gross this mid 414 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: price powerankings. But number one, I've squeezed him in because 415 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: he's just over and I've cheated Tom Deaconing is the 416 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: only guy I think is worth in the cheap bracket 417 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: and he's over five hundred k. I know it's I'm 418 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: being very leaning with the rule here because other than that, 419 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: can any of you guys see I'm starting with these 420 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: mid price rucks. I'm counting Vycentine. He's not really mid. 421 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: He's kind of almost that bargain basement that we're talking about, 422 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 2: Like he's only just one hundred K more than a 423 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 2: rookie mid price. These are the guys you look at 424 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: I've got my powerrankings number one t DK, number two, 425 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: Mark Pittnett at four hundred and seven K three, I've 426 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: got Briggs or Madden, whoever wins the battle at GWS. 427 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: Briggs could potentially be a guy, but you just said 428 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: he's another one that benefited from the wrestling, and he's 429 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 2: also not, you know, the most agile guy I gone 430 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: around for the new rules. Matt Flynn at four, who 431 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: we've all been there and done that last year, ned 432 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: Ned Moyle if he ever gets the number one man 433 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: to over Jared Witz and then Oral Jordan's Sweet at 434 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: number six because I added an extra one in case 435 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: you his career. Yeah, guy, that, by the way, guy 436 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: that dropped two hundred super Coach points last year. Jordan Sweet, 437 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 2: you're ruined him out? 438 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: Well, No, I'm just reporting what's happening at at the 439 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 4: end of his career. 440 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: No, it's sweet for you know his curry is still 441 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: going just from what from port At the moment, Dante 442 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: is slightly ahead of him to play one good intel. 443 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: I got faith in Sweety, though I've seen some the 444 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: footage out there is tackling hard, putting everything he can 445 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 2: to get that number one man to himself, So keep 446 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: an eye on that. I don't know if you'll necessarily 447 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: get what you want round one, it'sim but you do 448 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 2: have the intel the me and the bushes. I don't know. 449 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 2: I've been getting some intil of my own down at 450 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: Alberton Chief. What about Sam Draper still pretty highly owns. 451 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: But but but he's out until well, they've said that 452 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: he's out until what they said was week two of 453 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: the AFL season, which for me, I was like, is 454 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: week two actually round one for Brisbane? But since then 455 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: I think they have clarified it is round two that 456 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: he's not going to be available until so, I mean, 457 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: you're just not going to start with an injured player. 458 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought. And currently he's nearly fourteen percent owned, 459 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: and that's just obviously for people maybe making the team 460 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 2: and the games come out and then not checking it 461 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: for a little bit. But maybe you know, look to 462 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 2: remove Sam Draper from your team to start the season. 463 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: He's definitely on our radar though. The moment he suits 464 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: up for the lines and see how that looks, he 465 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: would have been he would have been number one I 466 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: think here in the mid price I definitely would be 467 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: easily prior to the injury. So yeah, that's a good 468 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: point to point that out. We had been going through 469 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: our super Value watch lists as well, and obviously in 470 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: the Brucks there's just not that many talk about. Dante 471 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: Vicentini was in there. And the other player who is 472 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: also not going to be right for the start of 473 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: season's Nick Bryan, who I will be looking very closely 474 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 2: at the moment he returns for s But at the 475 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: moment it's looking like Essendon are going to run Lockie 476 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: Blackiston as their number one rock who he's available as 477 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 2: a defender this year, not right, how much is in 478 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 2: the two fifty k bracket. I think he's one to 479 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: think about that he's not in the actual you can 480 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 2: only select him as a defender, which could be great 481 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 2: for us. 482 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: Also, yeah, one maybe he's tip a little bit of 483 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: an eye on hard to see just if Locky with 484 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 3: Andrew can maybe get up over Rob. 485 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 4: Don't know, don't know. 486 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 3: They're like there's a little he's been going pretty well 487 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: at times locking with Andrew, but then Riley Brien does 488 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 3: bounce back. 489 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: So that's that's just another one to just monitor. 490 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: I reckon well, speaking about those rookie price players. Fan 491 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: you're going to do a speed run for us here 492 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: of fans farm hidden Defance farm to find those rookie 493 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: cash not a lot here now as a guy, probably 494 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 2: we haven't. We could have mentioned sooner, but we did 495 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: want to wait till cashcow. I think there's an obvious 496 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: R three and you can start with him. I'll give 497 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: you five five names. 498 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: Okay, five names, five names you mentioned ultimate Liam Ready 499 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: fifty owned. 500 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 2: I still think sixty. 501 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Ruck Ford go to our three great flex if he starts, 502 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: he's been doing some good work forward of center, and 503 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: surely surely he does offer Michael Voss added flexibility. He's 504 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: more athletic than Mark Pittnett with those new ruck rules, 505 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: so surely, even if he doesn't start, it's not too 506 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: far away. So he's the number one rookie option one 507 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: undred ninety k big numbers in the waffle last year 508 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: playing for Frio. Now that's probably it. Claney White nine 509 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: nine K ruck Ford. It's obviously owned because of me. 510 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes we like to throw at the moment. He's Lean 511 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: Reid is my flex. Clanne White is my R three too. 512 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: You know we needed sometimes we need to don up 513 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: for the VC and see loop. Pole and Melbourne do 514 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: play a lot of Sunday game, so he's that's why 515 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: he's so highly owned and just cheat. Yeah, but if 516 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: you are looking at good options, I've got planning White 517 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: other options to consider. Vego of Byzantinigo. Yep, now we 518 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: talk about Backston, could Vigo get in one hundred and 519 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: eighty k maybe maybe if you hear. 520 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 2: Some other news coming out of us and maybe. 521 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine matter, imagine starting just going full full weirdness 522 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 3: with the Visitini R one R two. 523 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: Doubles, number two pick in the draft, Cooper duff Tie 524 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety ninety k ruck forward. Now he 525 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: could surprise a few two very skillful for a big man. Again, 526 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: hard selection to start in Super Coach. 527 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: He'll play, he'll plays. If Matt Flinn's healthy, he'll plays 528 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: as a forward, just to just to save the body. 529 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 2: He's still super young the first year like that just 530 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: is natural that your key, your key forwards, like he'll 531 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: be the ultra slow Burn. But at one ninety K, 532 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty hard. Like you said, you'd probably 533 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: almost rather just throw the position and use it to loop, 534 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 2: would you think yeah, I think so. I don't know 535 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 2: what's his scoring power. I don't have an idea. I 536 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: mean he's a good kick, like kicking's good. Super coaches 537 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: Fantom always says, play him on the Wien. Yeah, yeah, 538 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be against us like just having him there 539 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: as a slow burn, but it could be slow. 540 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: To one hundred and nineteen k options to just watch 541 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: for potentially. Dan Batton keeps talking about this guy, says, 542 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: if you ask someone at Geelong who's been standing out 543 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: the preseason, Mitch Edwards one hundred nineteen k ruck from 544 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 1: the Cats and also Ausgar Stein the mature age was 545 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: drafted from the sandfill over at Collingwood. Obviously, no Mason 546 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: Cox there at the moment. Nobody my check either in 547 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: that forward line. Could he come in and play some 548 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: mixed minutes there? So just two names to keep an eye. 549 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying anyone in my team at the moment, 550 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: but just keep an eye on them if they do 551 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: pop up in any practice games or early in the season. 552 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 2: Final discussion on Classic before I just whip through some 553 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: draft stuff fan so any way you could see yourself, 554 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: Like last year we were toying with it was the 555 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 2: first year flex was. In any situation, you guys could 556 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: see yourself starting with three rucks again on field, I'm 557 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 2: talking talking about here putting a ruck in flex, especially 558 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: if we do have someone like a Vicentini that could 559 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: be a value pick for us going you know, it 560 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: could be Jackson grundy Enda Vycentini. Yeah, there you go, 561 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: a Dante well either. 562 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I not that you coould I think that. I 563 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 4: think that's how it would work. 564 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: I think I'm all scared off the using the flexibility 565 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,880 Speaker 2: of the flex. Yeah. 566 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: The other one is when Draper comes back, you could 567 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 3: look at that, you know, because he does have a 568 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 3: forward status as well. 569 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 4: But I mean you should. 570 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: Start the season though, would you consider it strongly or not? Really? 571 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: I've got Leam Radiot flex at the moment that count. 572 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 2: That count. 573 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 4: No, I'm going I'm in different ways with the Fleets. 574 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to do a midfielder. 575 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's where That's where I'm leaning from 576 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: our lessons learned last year. Quickly in draft, if I'm 577 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: drafting a ruck, I want to get it. I want 578 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: to get a big dog. It's a big dog or 579 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 2: it's nothing for me. Sim And I'm drafting I get 580 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: one of those guys you've talked about in that top five. 581 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 2: Maybe Tim English in there for me as well, unfortunately fandom. 582 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: But I'm grabbing one of the big dogs, or I'm 583 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: punting the rucks. Now when I say punting, I just 584 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: mean I'm going to leave the ruck until my last 585 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 2: basically one of my last picks in the draft. So 586 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 2: if you had pick seven in a ten man league, 587 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: what would it do. Look, if there's a good ruck there, 588 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: I'll be taking him in the first or second round, 589 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: I think. So that's always my strategy is in super 590 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 2: coaches to get out one of the big midfielders or 591 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: a ruck, especially if captains are on. You want one 592 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: of these big dogs. If you can't get a I'm 593 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: talking like a Sherry A gorn A Grundy, Luke Jackson, 594 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 2: Tim English, that sort of thing. And I only want 595 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: to get him in the first couple of rounds. Probably 596 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: so more so your top one twenty plus guys. If not, 597 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: I'm leaving the rucks, I'm drafting everyone else. Ye who 598 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: you're looking at them and then laid in the draft. Look, 599 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: these are some of the ADP data that we've got 600 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: so average draft position. A TDK, who we've mentioned about 601 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: people probably a little bit more worried about the rucks 602 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: share and draft as well. He's going at pick fifty two, 603 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: so that's kind of a mid tier pick I'm not 604 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: talking about. If I'm punting it, I'm going even deeper. 605 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 2: TDK would be the one sort of value pick I 606 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: think at the moment when i'm punting, I'm talking Sean 607 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: Darcy ADP of two hundred and five. The guy's still 608 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: going to be rucking ahead of Luke Jackson. If he's playing, 609 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 2: you can pick him up with one of your last 610 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: picks in the draft. So I've just gone and got 611 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: Matt Roub all these guys up the top whilst somebody's 612 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: picking up the scraps of a Toby nan Curves early on. 613 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm waiting until the later end of the draft. Sewn 614 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: Darcy is going to be there. D'arante Visentini's going to 615 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: be there, even stashing a Nick Bryan and swapping him with, 616 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: you know, making sure you have a little backup ruck 617 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 2: that's just going to get a heartbeat for the first 618 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: few rounds until he's ready. I don't care. I'm throwing 619 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 2: the position. If I don't get an early. 620 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: Ruck, what about what about man always persistent Man the 621 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 3: whitler Jared with He's always he's always around, all one 622 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: of the hawthorned guys. 623 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: Yep, getting the Meeki, I'm all about just waiting, like, 624 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: wait until the last guy in that sort of if 625 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: it's a Meek or if it's an even if it 626 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: is a nank later in the draft, that's just there. 627 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: I'll just snap them up late because wasting these sort 628 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: of my round picks on drafts, I'm not about that. 629 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: I'm either getting the big dog or it's nothing for 630 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: eld Dossian draft. 631 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: Very good. 632 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 2: The LAIR leg let's wrap this up. What is the league? Wait? Yeah, 633 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: what are we up to? Chief? Because five k is 634 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: the target? Look at those numbers. 635 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: Now, if you aren't in the league, in there now 636 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: take us on one two eight five three two the 637 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: LAIR league code one two eight five three two. 638 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 2: What are we You might have to do one of 639 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: these punishments pretty soon. We're nearly at three thousand members 640 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 2: already in the Lair League, and we've said coming to 641 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: give me some merch up for grass. Are going to 642 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 2: put together a little care package a lair a layer package, 643 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: we'd lare package. 644 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: You found out that we've got some big names actually 645 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: in the AFL world in there, you know, I won't 646 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: reveal her big names. We've got some big names, including 647 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 3: five names of course. 648 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: Unbelievable stuff. So yeah, get us up to five thousand, 649 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 2: and then pantomies going to do a sneaky little punishment 650 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: of keep seeing those punishments because a few coming through. 651 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: We'll do like a poll or something. At the end 652 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: of all this, I'm not sure that the Chief sends 653 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 2: us tattoos. 654 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: Having the Chief is up the group chat at eleven 655 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: pm at night with any any suggestions that come to 656 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 1: you through. 657 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, they've been good. The other thing, we're amy for 658 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 2: twenty three thousand subscribers on YouTube hit like in subscribe 659 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: to you are watching on Code Sports YouTube. If we 660 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: do that, we're looking to do a little layer catch 661 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 2: up at gather Around at some point at five names 662 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: card on the bar. Yep, that's right, And yeah, we're 663 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: at nearly twenty two thousand for that, so only two 664 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: thousand away from that one fanom as well, and then 665 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: on Apple and Spotify we are looking to get up 666 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 2: to twelve hundred ratings across Spotify and Apple and that's 667 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: old Dossi's up for that one for punishment, so figure 668 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: that one out as well. 669 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: Very good getting there, get picking, get tinkering Code sports 670 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: dot com, do you again catch up on Code week, 671 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: the super Coach preseason camp, all the great content that 672 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: you can read more of what Fancy Frico said in 673 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: depth about the rucks in his Q and A. There 674 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: so plenty of gold in there to dissect and might 675 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: influence your ruck set up, which it has today. 676 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: State of origin. This weekend lad super Coach numbers. Super 677 00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Coach numbers will be coming through from that, so we'll 678 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: be talk about that next week and then wrap up 679 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: these Positionalards episodes with forwards. 680 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 4: A lovely Valentine's Day for missus Dossie. 681 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 2: See you then,