1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: This is the Fitting and Whip with Kate Richie podcast. 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: Great event happening this week in at Sydney Motorsport Park. 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: It's called Beat the Blue. This is your opportunity to 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: beat the cops. 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: This is in your car obviously. This is run by 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: volunteers and one hundred percent of the proceeds from participation 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: in merchandise go directly to the New South Wales Police Leaguer. 8 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: See one man will he be racing this week in 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: his Sergeant Stephen planinik He's part of the Auburn Highway 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: Patrol and he joins us now sergeants. 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: Day, thank you good I Sergeant Steve. 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: So can I come down with my own car? 13 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, we you can't use our cards unfortunately. 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 3: So it's like if Tommy comes down he drives a 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 3: Toyota Yaris. Yeah, is going to be the twenty ten 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 3: yarras trying to beat one of your patrol cars. That's correct, Tommy, 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: stay away off, Yes, all right. That's an exciting opportunity 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: for people to come down, it is. 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: That's the biggest draw card of the event, to test 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 4: their drive and skill against the police. What is the 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 4: average police car, Well, the higher patrol cars that will 22 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: be in us will be the five point thirty D 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 4: which is a sedan and now the higher patroler using 24 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: X five BMWs SUVs. 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: Right, okay, that's. 26 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: My good And tell us about your driving, Steve. I mean, 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: how often do you actually have to get out in 28 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 2: the track and you know, for moments when you are 29 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: on highway patrol. We do see it on the news 30 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: quite a bit where someone decides to go for it 31 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: and get away from the cops. I mean, say, how 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: much are you practicing on the road. 33 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: So it comes down to your training. 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: So a lot of our training is around scenario work 35 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: on a racetrack. So and that's where we started Beat 36 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 4: the Blue so that we could recreate that in a 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 4: safe environment and show people that if you drive safely 38 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: and correctly generally, you're quicker. So each year, this is 39 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 4: our fifty year running Be the Blue. The cops of 40 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: one of the matchups with the plow. So with your 41 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: question with the pursuit stuff, again, it's that we get 42 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: that much training and oversight with what we do, which 43 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 4: is what we should have, that we we try and 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: our best. We're still humans, we make the mistakes, but 45 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 4: we do our best to prioritize that safety and switch off. 46 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: Now we've thrown it out there this morning, Sad and 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: Steve ae'en twenty fourteen. If you like Sad and Steve 48 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: to debunk any myths or clear up some laws for 49 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: our listeners. Julie has given us a girl from Pennant Hills. 50 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: What's your question, Jules, I was wondering if I'm allowed 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: to drive with my dog in the car without him 52 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: being strapped in. 53 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 4: We animals and in cars, and that they'd recommend it 54 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: heavily that they're strapped in. 55 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: The biggest defense around that. 56 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 4: So what you would get a ticket for is if 57 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: your dog was on your lap while you were driving. 58 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 4: So as long as they're not on your lap or 59 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: impeding you, you're you're fine. Fell on the back seats, Yeah, 60 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: that's right, it's just safer for them and strapped in. 61 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: I've got a lab at home, and you've got a 62 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 4: great little setup for the back seat so he doesn't 63 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: destroy it or eat it. He's strapped in and he's 64 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: nice and safe. Because again, you can be the best 65 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 4: driver in the world, and if something happens around you, 66 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 4: you don't want your loved lives to get hurt. 67 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: Great question, Julia, thank you Lucky in camera for Sergeant 68 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 3: Steve Flucky. 69 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: Not really a question about the laws, but more just 70 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 4: what's the fastest you've ever gone in your police car 71 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: and also your regular cars? 72 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: Jeez, would that be at the track? It has to 73 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: be at the track. That's a good disclaimer there. 74 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: Well, I don't really after I've been in the place 75 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 4: for twenty years now, most of that in the higher patrol. 76 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: It's not. 77 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 4: There's no board at work. I sort of note down 78 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: the fastest we go, we don't have there's no limit, 79 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 4: and it's all based on the scenario in my race 80 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 4: car the racetrack. I've gone over two hundred and forty 81 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: coos an hour down the main street there park and 82 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 4: that's the place to do it, not on the street, 83 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: regardless if you're a police officer or not. 84 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: Steve Gimma in Parramotta. You got Serge and Steve, what 85 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: would you like to ask hello? 86 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: I'd love to know. 87 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: Why is it when you pull someone over, but you 88 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: chap the car and leave your finger prints as you 89 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: walk off back to your police car. 90 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: Have you heard this, Steve? 91 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's we don't really tell people why we do 92 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: it because of the reason why do it, and it's about, 93 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 4: like you rightfully said, your fingerprints on the car. 94 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: So I'll let you use your imagination as. 95 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 4: To why I would leave bits of ourselves on someone's car, 96 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 4: because if something doesn't go well and that person drives off, 97 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: you've left something a marker on that car that they 98 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 4: can't refute. 99 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's very much deliberate. So it's a couple 100 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: of things. 101 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 4: It's making sure the boot's secured so that no one 102 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: jumps out of it and leaving a marker on the car. 103 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's quite a few things like that, Steve. 104 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we do. 105 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 4: Like I said, the training that we get it's pretty 106 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 4: extensive and it's all towards our people getting home safely. 107 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: There's so much technique too, because we were lucky enough 108 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: to go and see the training center of the Pistol 109 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 3: Range at the headquarters here in New South Wales, and 110 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: even getting the gun from. 111 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: The holster has a technique. 112 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, and it's all all that training is about 113 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 4: muscle memory because when you're in a high stress environment, 114 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: you're cognitive process it has to be automated. So yeah, 115 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: just so much repetition in training, and that's what keeps 116 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 4: you safe. 117 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: That's blitz. 118 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: Second decision, Steve, what you need to pull out, whether 119 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: it's a taser, pepper spray, your batten or it could 120 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: be a gun. And I know you tasted Tom just 121 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 2: outside the studio. 122 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: He asked for it. 123 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 3: Serena's in five Dog question for Sergeant Steve. 124 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 4: Yes, I just want to know if a police car 125 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: comes up behind me in a hurry, but I'm at 126 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: a red light, do I go through it to make 127 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 4: way for the police car? 128 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: Or do I stay at the red light? Old question. 129 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: It's a great question because that happens quite a lot. 130 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: If you can shuffle out of the way without crossing 131 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: the line? Yes, what if you can't? No, I wouldn't. 132 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: Don't move. 133 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: Do you like the show Highway Petrel Stave. 134 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: I haven't really watched that, to be honest. I do 135 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: see clips of it on social media and the like 136 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: and have a smile, But now I know that it's 137 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: quite popular. Like the RBT Show and The Force and 138 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: the like, it does really show people some of the 139 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: things we deal with on a day in, day out basis. 140 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: So I mean, Sergeant Steve in the urban area. 141 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 3: Got one more call here from Salim Mahaja. 142 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 2: Now he's getting married again this weekend. 143 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'm off duty on Saturday. Actually right, are you 144 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: around for that wedding? 145 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: Student? 146 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: No, I was working somewhere else. Oh thank god. 147 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: If you want to get involved, to go to Beat 148 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: the Blue dot org and you can bring the kids. 149 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: There's a kid zone, there's a large car display, police 150 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 2: displays and get involved and go on the website and 151 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: find out a little bit more. There they are raising 152 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: money for the new South Wales Police Legacy. 153 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: You do an amazing job, Steven. 154 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: We really appreciate your time, buddy. 155 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate having an opportunity to come in 156 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: and have a chat. 157 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 3: Thanks. 158 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: Deve sits in Whipper with Kate Ritchie is a Nova 159 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: podcast walk great shows like this. 160 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: Download the Nova player, Fire the app Store or Google 161 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: Playing