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Speaker 1: Deputy Commissioner from say Paul Linda Williams on the line,

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Speaker 1: Deputy Commissioner, good morning, thanks for coming on, Mack. I

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Speaker 1: supposed to police You're probably not as surprised as I

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Speaker 2: No, but I find it actually shameful that this part

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean that's almost three a day, for

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it was a statewide operation. It was conducted

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Speaker 2: throughout July in each district or LSA. It was dedicated

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Speaker 2: particular focus on proactive policing. And as you say, we

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Speaker 2: it is just shameful and really disappointing that this type

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Speaker 1: Firearms is concerning clearly in this sort of situation, because

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Speaker 2: It would be disastrous. And I mean the range of

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Speaker 2: perpetrating domestic vials that you know, we are active in

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Speaker 2: What we're seeing in The research suggests that these people

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Speaker 1: What percentage were male?

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Speaker 1: Okay, unlawful imprisonment. So that's somebody been presumably in a house,

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Speaker 2: Someone's been restrained against their will, So their freedom of

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Speaker 1: Four hundred odd incidents that you've or addressed as you've attended,

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Speaker 1: And the reason I asked that four hundred addresses two

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Speaker 2: There's there's probably in the majority, and certainly that's a

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Speaker 1: And the people caught up in domestic violence. What's your message.

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Speaker 2: Our message is they're not just us. If that's what

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Speaker 1: It is up to the court sid ultimate list and

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Speaker 2: And look, look, the courts, the courts romand people in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So this type of operation, I imagine now with

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, this will be ongoing, will be We'll be conducting

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Speaker 1: Linda Williams from Saypole. A. Lee Garrett is called in

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Okay Mason here are you going good?

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Speaker 1: Thank here? What's your message?

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Speaker 3: Well, look, we're one, we're the referring agency that Saypole

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Speaker 1: You Don't Become That Man phone line? Does that get

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Speaker 1: Do partners get in touch Lee? Do they contact you

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And we've got a phone number one three hundred

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Speaker 1: To do that's great advice and a Lee, that's the

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Speaker 1: Great service, Lee, thanks for calling.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Matthew, Bye.

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Speaker 1: Lee Garrett there CEO Offenders and Rehabilitation Service. What a

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Speaker 1: to thirty four to thirteen