WEBVTT - Sharri | 13 March 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:05.399 Why on Sky News This is Sharry. 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:11.560 Good Evening tonight, how the Albanzy government pressured police to 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.480 publicly state the caravan was not a terror plot ahead 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.880 of the election campaign. Police are furious at what they 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:23.599 claim is interference in their investigation. My exclusive report in 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:26.560 a moment, also on the show, how Green's and the 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:30.520 Independence are ganging up to pressure Chris Mins to reverse 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:34.560 Haste speech laws that would see the vile hate preachers. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:35.159 Held to account. 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.520 Let's hope the Coalition doesn't get in on this. Plus 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:44.920 tlnp Alegraspender's humiliation after her own sister tried to hold 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.120 an event with an offensive pro Palestinian activist. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:49.240 It was only. 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.560 Canceled at the eleventh hour today when we submitted questions. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.640 More on that in a moment, and a very special 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.200 guest tonight on the show. Iranian lawyer and pro Israel 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:04.240 advocate Eleka Lebon will be here live in studio, but 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:08.959 first tonight I can reveal the Albanese government pressured police 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:12.560 to publicly state that the caravan plot was not a 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:17.560 terror related incident. This was despite the risk of jeopardizing 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:22.480 the investigation, which was ongoing with suspects still under surveillance 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:24.640 and arrests yet to be made. 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:27.280 Multiple sources involved. 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.920 In the joint counter terror investigation told me there was 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.160 a push from the Albanese government to get the caravan 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:37.920 hoax narrative into the public domain before the federal election, 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.160 and that was meant to be called on Sunday, March 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:45.720 the ninth. It was postponed because of ex tropical cyclone Alfred. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.720 One well placed senior policing source told me and I 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.880 quote they've had a desire to call it out as 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.840 not a terror incident for some time, based on the 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.880 fact they needed to de escalate it prior. 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.000 To any election in court. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:06.559 Now I have confirmed that the AFP pressured New South 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:10.840 Wales Police to agree to release publicly that the caravan 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.120 was a criminal conjob for at least two weeks before 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.960 the press conference on Monday this week, but New South 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:22.399 Wales Police pushed back. They were furious at what they 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:28.400 saw as political interference in a delicate and difficult police investigation. 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:33.960 They had counter surveillance operations running, they were conducting coercive 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.000 examinations and were still in the midst of their own investigation, 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:44.880 which included building a watertight case against fourteen suspects who. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.040 They arrested just on Monday morning. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.680 Law enforcement officials feared that going public prematurely could have 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:57.359 risked compromising their investigation. Now when New South i was 0:02:57.440 --> 0:03:00.880 police agreed with the decision to go public with the information, 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:05.040 it was understood to have required a change in strategy. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.480 Now the AFP had determined that organized crime was behind 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:15.040 the explosive laden caravan and that it did not pose 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:19.800 an active terror threat. The AFP then briefed key figures 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:24.120 in the Albanzy government about this development, and the Albanezy government, 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.920 which was preparing for an election to be called just 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.800 on Sunday for the twelfth of April, were then keen 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:35.600 to get this information made public now the election was 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:36.040 meant to be. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:36.840 Caught on Sunday. 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:41.240 Then, on Monday morning, New South Wales Police arrested fourteen 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:45.520 people over the spate of anti Semitic attacks in Sydney's 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:50.360 East and AFP Deputy Commissioner for National Security Chrissy Barrett, 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.640 and both New South Wales and New Southees Police Deputy 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:57.360 Commissioner Dave Hudson. They both held a press conference announcing 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.960 that day that the caravan packed with the explosives was 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.400 a fabricated terror plot. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:10.120 Almost immediately, experienced investigators within the Joint Counterterrorism Team believed 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.400 that the caravan was part of a fabricated terrorist plot, 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:18.159 essentially a criminal conjob. This was because of the information 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:22.040 they already had, how easily the caravan was found and 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:26.320 how visible the explosives were in the caravan. Also, there 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:27.400 was no detonator. 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.640 Right after the press conference that night and again the 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:35.960 next day, Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke was ready with 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:37.039 the attack lines. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:44.680 Mister Dutton, without seeking a briefing, simply asserted a large 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.960 scale planned terrorist attack. That is not what we were 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.719 dealing with. We were dealing with a criminal con job 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.359 and Peter Dutton was one of the people who was conned. 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:02.119 Of course, Tony Burke's accusation there was nonsense because both 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.839 the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi and the New Southeales Premier 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:10.440 Chris Mins had also spoken about the caravan being a 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:11.440 terrorism threat. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:15.680 Do you classify this as a terrorism as well, Prime Minister, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:16.560 I'd certainly do. 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:21.960 I agree with Chris Mints. It's clearly designed to harm people, 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.760 but it's also designed to correct fear in the community. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.480 This is the discovery of a potential mass casualty event. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.640 There's only one way of calling it out, and that 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:32.440 is terrorism. 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:33.960 That's what we're very worried about. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.679 But the point is that Tony Burke, the Home Affairs Minister, 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.920 was ready to roll with his attack lines on what 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:45.479 was meant to be the first day of the election campaign. Now, 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.359 when Albanezy was asked repeatedly when he was first briefed 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:53.479 on the caravan of explosives, he claimed he couldn't comment 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:57.640 because he wouldn't dare undermine a police investigation. 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:04.200 I have no intention of undermining an ongoing investigation by 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:08.240 going into the details. This should not be the source 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:09.600 of political debate. 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.039 Yet he did exactly that. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:18.719 According to multiple senior police figures, the Albanezy government did 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:23.480 undermine and interfere with the police investigation. Now, I asked 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.920 Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor about this. 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:27.640 I've got him on the show tonight. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.080 I spoke to him just before and he said, these 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.360 are serious concerns that need to be investigated. 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.240 If the Prime Minister has been interfering in a police 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:42.760 investigation and pressuring them to do the spin for the 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.280 government that the government wants this is completely inappropriate. 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:49.279 Now here's the thing. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.880 There's now a major push by the media like the 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:58.040 Sydney Morning Herald, the Greens, the Independence, the Libertarians and 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.800 some Labor and Peace to play anti Semitism as a 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:06.400 result of organized crime being behind the spate of violent 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:12.080 attacks targeting Jewish sites. But I've discovered, and I've spoken 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:16.920 to very well placed police that anti Semitism hasn't. 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.000 Been ruled out as a motive for these attacks. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.440 Now I've drilled down deeply on this topic and I 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.120 found out that there are figures from two different outlaw 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.920 motorcycle gangs who are being investigated. One of the figures 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:31.440 at the center of this is the Australian. 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:33.520 He's actually a dual citizen. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:37.680 He's based offshore and he was paying locally based criminals 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:41.000 to carry out the spate of violent attacks the targeted 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.920 Jewish businesses, cars and properties. But the Joint Counter Terror 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:52.560 Team still do not categorically know his motivations. Federal police 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.160 haven't ruled out that a foreign actor isn't paying this individual. 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.240 Anti Semitism has not been ruled out as a motivation either. 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.160 In fact, one police source told me, and I'm quoting. Now, 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.680 anti Semitism could be the motive, or it could be 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:13.600 a multiple range of things. So how this plot worked 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:18.760 is that this Australian dual citizen based overseas then paid 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:23.320 local street criminals to carry out the spate of anti 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:27.320 Semitic attacks, and these local criminals are understood to have 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:34.120 accepted the paid jobs through various encrypted apps. Police are 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:39.480 not certain about which country the Australian duel citizen is 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.080 currently in. They are not close to making an arrest. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:48.079 In fact, an arrest could be a year or more away. 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:51.600 The figure is understood to be a successful global criminal 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:57.000 who's well connected with multiple motorcycle gangs and other criminal organizations. 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.120 The investigation is still active. 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.080 And ongoing, and to me, it seems that there's more 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:06.400 that the police don't know than what they do know. 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:08.040 Yet. 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:12.439 Despite this, new Southerwans Premier Chris Mens is tonight facing 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:16.360 a cross bench revolt over his hate speech laws. The 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:20.760 Cinny Morning Herald is reporting that he's facing a revolt 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.720 from the cross bench and also aggrieved labor MPs and 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.160 they want that his hate speech laws to either be 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:32.360 repealed or subject to a parliamentary inquiry. And this is 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:36.480 apparently all because there is no antisemitism threat, because the 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:42.160 caravan packed with explosives was organized by criminals rather than 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:49.160 a live terror threat. This is absolute nonsense. These are 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.800 all people who never cared about antisemitism in the first place. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.880 Every single violent attack, including the fire bombing of a preschool, 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.480 the torching of cars in in front of Alex Ripchen's house, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:03.400 is an anti Semitic attack. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:06.000 Just because it might have. 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:09.640 Been carried out by organized crime doesn't mean it wasn't 0:10:09.679 --> 0:10:14.760 an antisemitism an anti Semitic attack. As journalist Stephen Rice 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.560 says in The Australian Today, for the police to have 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.520 ruled out the motivations of a suspect they haven't yet questioned, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:27.040 or even caught, or even approached is a highly unusual 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:31.920 approach and I'd say it's a shocking and dangerous approach. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:37.400 Stephen Rice says in The Australian that these comments by 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:40.880 police have given free reign to anyone who wanted to 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:44.679 downplay the level of antisemitism experience by the Jewish community, 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.960 and he asks, well, what about the attempt to set 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:53.840 fire to the Newtown's synagogue in January? He questions how anyone, 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.959 and let alone a Green's politician could question that this 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.600 was anti semitism. This is what the accusations are, that 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:05.360 it's not anti semitism. How can you say an arson 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:11.080 attempt on a Newtown's synagogue is not antisemitism. Stephen Rice 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.720 says this is absurd. He says, this is the absurdity 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.720 of being asked to agree to a sentiment that this 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:23.040 was not an anti Semitic attack. And even Dave Hudson, 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:27.559 the New South Wales Deputy Police Commissioner, admitted in questioning 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:32.880 in budget estimates yesterday that they did not know the 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.800 actual ideology or motivation of these people. 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:41.040 That it is still under investigation now. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:46.560 Thankfully, despite the absolute disgrace of those in New South 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:50.520 Illes Parliament using this as an opportunity to attack a 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:55.840 popular premiere, Chris Mins is standing firm. Chris Mins has 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.959 released a statement saying he will not repeal the hate 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:00.160 speech laws. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:01.560 And why should he. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.760 The caravan filled with explosives has nothing to do with 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:08.680 hate speech. The hate speech laws are needed to finally 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:12.880 crack down on those hate speeches and pro Palestinian activists 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.640 who insist on saying the most derogatory comments about Jews, 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.840 yet they get away scot free because none of the 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:24.800 laws apply. Chris Means's strength is the leadership we need 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:28.559 in this country. And simply for standing up to anti Semitism, 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:33.000 his own colleagues are trying to tear him down. Well, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:37.520 let's hope they're not successful. Now, I also want to 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.800 say here that I've approached Mark Speakman's office tonight for comment, 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.200 to get reassurance that he's not going to get in 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.040 on this and demand that there's a parliamentary inquirer and 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.000 these hate spech on these hate speech laws. I couldn't 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.400 contact Mark Speakman, he's in a regional area. But if 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:57.040 he if the Coalition sides with the Greens, with the Libertarians, 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:01.560 with some aggrieved labor and piece just to attack chrince Mins, 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.960 then this would be an indictment on the coalition in 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.800 New South Wales, an absolute indictment. It would be unforgivable 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.240 for the New South Wales Coalition if they don't stand 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:15.360 firm with Chris Mins on this. Now, in relation to 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.400 my story tonight that the Prime Minister has put pressure 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.680 on the police, I've contacted the Prime Minister's office for comment. 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:22.880 They haven't replied. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.240 A spokeswoman for the AFP said the timing of Monday's 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.160 press conference was decided by the Joint counter Terror Team, 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.240 which included New South Wales Police, and she said the 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:36.440 AFP's priority has been to ensure community safety, investigate those 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.760 responsible for the alleged crime, provide the truth to the 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:49.760 Jewish community, and that the investigations were ongoing. All right, 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:54.520 Wentworth mp A Legrispender's sister has counseled an event at 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.360 the last minute that she was meant to host tonight 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:02.640 with a highly offensive pro Palestinian activist. Fashion designer Bianca 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:06.280 Spender had sold tickets to an event in conversation with 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:12.040 the artist Monica Rani Ruter. Now, this artist has posted 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:18.080 some pretty extreme views regarding Israel and the hostages online. 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.760 She re shared a video of the hostage o Meer 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:25.520 Shemtov kissing the Hamas captive on stage, and the caption 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.000 of that reshared post was they tell us these people 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.080 had been plucked from the depths of hell, delivered from 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:36.000 the clutches of monsters. Yet here the hostages are kissing 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.240 the very people we are taught to fear. Perhaps the 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.320 real horror was never in Gaza, but in the stories 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:49.080 we let ourselves believe. Another very offensive post, she shared 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.280 another photograph of that kiss of the hostage, which we 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.120 all know was forced. But in this post it said, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.160 and I'm quoting an undoing of the script of the 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.160 roles assigned of the carefully and near delusion that some 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.040 lives are worth grieving while others deserve. 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:05.720 To dissolve into statistics. 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.520 Yet another bizarre reshared post claim that Israel has been 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:16.720 harvesting Palestinian's organs without consent. Now, we contacted Bianca Spender 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.760 for comment today and we got the reply that the 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:24.200 event for tonight was counseled. We also reached out to 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.880 a Legraspender and her office said that this event has 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.760 nothing to do with a Legraspender. We understand it is 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:35.560 not even happening now. I understand tickets were still being 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.160 sold yesterday and even this morning, so it was canceled 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:40.600 at the eleventh hour. 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:42.120 Now why is this relevant? 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.600 Well, of course, the leg Respender is the MP for Wentworth, 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:46.920 which has the largest Jewish population of. 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.200 Any electorate in the country. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.240 This would be seriously tone deaf for her sister, of 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:57.200 all people, to consider giving someone a platform who holds 0:15:57.200 --> 0:16:03.480 such outrageous views. All right, let's bring in now our 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:08.240 regular Thursday panel, Matt Canavan and Basil Zemplus. Great to 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:15.640 see you both. I want to start with this wombat story. 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.680 So this was something we hadn't covered earlier this week. 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:24.280 I mean, it started going viral yesterday that a wombat 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:30.200 was taken by a baby wombat was taken by a 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:34.880 TikTok viral influencer, separated from its mother. Now why I 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.600 want to talk about it tonight is that the level 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:43.080 of outrage it's attracted from the Prime Minister, from Tony Burke, 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:47.240 who's threatened to counsel this woman's visa or stop her 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.040 from coming to the country again, and also from Penny 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:56.120 Wang is completely at odds with their reaction to hate 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.360 preachers to any of the other people who they've happily 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:01.640 brought into the country. Let's have a look at some 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.600 of that reaction from the Prime Minister, from Penny Wan. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:15.400 To take a baby wombat from its mother and clearly 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:20.040 causing distress from the mother is just an outrage. And 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:24.680 you know, I suggest to this so called influencer maybe 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:28.159 she might try some other Australian animals. Take a baby 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.359 crocodile from its mother, and see how you go there. 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:36.440 Take another animal that can actually fight back, rather than 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.800 stealing a baby wombat from its mother, See how you 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:41.359 go there. 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:44.840 I actually just saw that as I was sort of 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:48.280 prepping for your for the for this interview, and it 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:53.040 looked pretty dreadful, didn't it. I'll leave those sorts of 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.000 questions to Tidy Burke and then to the authorities, but 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.159 really it's leave the. 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.040 One but alone. 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.880 And Tony Burke has released a statement saying his department 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:06.240 is working through the conditions on a current visa determining 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:10.040 whether immigration law has been breached. He says, either way, 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:13.080 given the level of scrutiny that will happen if she 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:15.919 ever applies for a visa again, I'll be surprised if 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.160 she even bothers now. 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.840 Tony Burke wouldn't even give a comment. 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.120 When I reported last week that a pro hasbela hate 0:18:24.160 --> 0:18:27.920 preacher was set to arrive in Australia, his department canceled 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:33.199 that visa basil. This hypocrisy from this government is astounding. 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:35.200 Sherry. 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.960 I think it's less about the hypocrisy, although I absolutely 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.760 appreciate why we can say there is quite a deal 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.680 of hypocrisy here. I think this is all about diversion 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.400 and distraction. This is an easy hit for the Prime 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.240 Minister and his senior team. We all love cuddly animals, 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.920 we all love Australia. We put the two together and 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:56.800 the Prime Minister thinks an easy hit here. People will 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.320 look at that and yes, they'll start commenting. This will 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.800 go off on some social media and it means people 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.520 won't be talking about tariffs, they won't be talking about caravans, 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.800 they won't be talking about the economic situation which is 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:12.119 hurting every day Australians. So to me, this just seems 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.960 straight out of the playbook Delay, distract and deny the 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.200 topics the airspace that they don't want people talking about. 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:22.320 I mean, Matt Canavan. 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.679 This seems to be me the perfect example of the 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:28.359 weakness of this government. The only thing they can be 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:32.320 tough on is an influencer who momentarily separated a baby 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.399 won bat from its mother and then returned it. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:36.880 Yeah. 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.120 Look, I think Basil makes good points there that especially 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:43.560 the Prime Minister there clearly had a pre can line 0:19:43.600 --> 0:19:44.480 about the crocodiles. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:45.800 He's obviously thought. 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.400 Of that about that long and hard in the bathroom 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:49.720 before coming out for the interview. Wouldn't it be better 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.280 for if he had spent more time thinking about how 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:55.359 to bring down the cost of living seeing electricity prices 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:59.000 going up again today, more time, as you've highlighted, focusing 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.600 on those people in our country are doing real harm 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.560 to our social cohesion and harmony. And look, so sure 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.040 I thought the only one that was sensible in that 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:09.280 package of Penny Wong. She's sort of said, oh, well, 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.600 I've only just seen it, and I'm in the same bit. 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:13.320 I only just looked at it because we're talking about 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.879 it tonight. Yeah, it's not appropriate, but surely there are 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.159 bigger things for the Prime Minister and our major ministers 0:20:19.160 --> 0:20:20.360 to focus on our country. 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:23.600 No, exactly. It's absolutely bizarre. 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.639 Now we're seeing that the Trump administration is working to 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:31.160 deport speaking of actual tough action to deport a Columbia 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:35.560 University pro Palestinian student activist who's been arrested amid the 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:39.879 crackdown on anti American and anti Semitic activity on campuses. 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.560 Now they've been protests after the. 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:46.960 Department of Homeland Security alleged that Mahmud Khalil led activities 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.200 aligned to her musk Basil. 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:50.720 Why aren't we seeing. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.760 These sort of actions here at Australian universities. 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.479 Well, it's a very different approach, isn't it. And I 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.760 think you take the temperature from the leadership of the nation. 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.879 We know that the Prime Minister has really walked both 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:07.920 sides of this street. Contrast that with the American leadership 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.800 that's been very firm, very hard and very strong, and 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.280 therefore that's the tone that has been set in the 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.880 United States. It's such a such a difference in how 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.360 it is being approached and university's here continuing to happen 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.840 each way, bet and very be very soft on this 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.920 sort of stuff. And then many Australians look at what's 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:29.920 happening in the United States and say that's the sort 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.879 of leadership that we want on this topic and this issue. 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:33.880 But it's not happening here. 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:35.320 That's right, No, exactly. 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:38.800 Look, we hear today that power bills are probably going 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.520 to increase by as much as two hundred dollars a 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.280 year depending on where you live, coming starting from this 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.199 July Matt Canavan, you know, I talk about this a 0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:48.800 bit later. 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:49.440 With Angus Taylor. 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:53.040 But this was a central campaign promise from Albert easierhead 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:55.959 of the last election to lower power bills by two 0:21:56.080 --> 0:22:00.240 hundred and seventy five dollars. Yet they just keep going up. 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.680 They keep going up, up and up under this government. 0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.040 Despite all the promises that we're told that renewable energy 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:09.320 is cheaper. Why hasn't the installation of more renewable energy, 0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.840 more win, more solid this government wants to do. Why 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.840 hasn't that lowered your power bill? They cannot answer that question. 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.560 As you say, they promised a turner and seventy five 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:21.320 dollars cut. After these figures, today you're seeing power bill 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.240 increases or the average power bill under these default offers 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.879 of up to eight hundred dollars extra up. So there 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.200 one thousand dollars more than one thousand dollars behind. So 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:30.760 we're going to go to a tour of seventy field 0:22:30.800 --> 0:22:34.040 dollars be lower. They're actually ending up eight hundred dollars 0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:35.080 higher just. 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:35.840 Within three years. 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:38.080 This is in three years. 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:38.160 Of this government. 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.840 Can we afford another eight hundred dollars increase if you 0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.879 vote for labor again. People are already struggling, And keep in 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:48.040 mind all of these power bill increases then flow through 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.920 to the cost of doing business, especially in your grocery aisle, 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:54.080 because all the production of food requires a lot of energy. 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:55.760 That's why your grocery bills are going up to. 0:22:58.000 --> 0:22:58.359 Basil. 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.240 You've just obviously had an election campaign and I should 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:04.440 say congratulations to you because you're not quite there yet, 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.280 I don't think, but it does look like you will be. 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:09.000 The new Liberal MP for the state seat of Church Lends. 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:09.560 Is that right? 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:13.120 That's right, Sherry, Yes, thank you. Not officially declared, but 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:14.919 expected to be done on the weekend. 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:15.560 Yes, that's sure. 0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.800 Look probably a much closer fight than you were expecting. 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.880 Was cost of living not a big issue in Wa? 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.600 Interesting it didn't seem to play out that way, and 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:31.640 although cost of living was made of focus, there were 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:36.239 very substantial swings against the labor government and from a 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:39.600 federal point of view, really interestingly in the areas and 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:43.320 in the marginal seats federally, there was a big swing 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:47.160 away from the state labor government. That does auger well 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:52.119 for the coalition heading into this coming federal election. Cost 0:23:52.160 --> 0:23:56.679 of living was a factor, but it wasn't the overriding factor. 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:59.640