WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 8 April

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<v Speaker 1>Lewens General, Welcome to the Late Debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening and welcome to the program. I'm Caleb Bond

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<v Speaker 2>with freyer Leitch and Liz Storer.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Program, a third of UNI students are being admitted with

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<v Speaker 2>special dispensation for some problem or another. We'll tell you

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<v Speaker 2>what they are and why a little later in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>In the papers, one state is scrapping its renewable energy targets.

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<v Speaker 2>Will tell you who that is. And the former foreign

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister who's been attacked by an ostretch will show

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<v Speaker 2>you the vision a little later. But of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>big story of the evening is the Sky News Daily

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<v Speaker 2>Telegraph People's Forum, which was broadcast right here just a

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<v Speaker 2>few hours ago. We know that the winner of that debate,

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<v Speaker 2>though not by a majority, was the Prime Minister Anthony Alberanzi.

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<v Speaker 2>The numbers were forty four percent of attendees these are

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<v Speaker 2>undecided voters when they walk into the room saying that

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<v Speaker 2>they thought Alberizi had won. It was thirty five percent

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<v Speaker 2>for d and twenty one percent said they were undecided.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a few of the questions that were asked tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>How are we going to cope with the Trump pandemic

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<v Speaker 2>that we're going through right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I was wondering, if we're getting any sort of funding

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<v Speaker 3>towards public education in the near future.

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<v Speaker 4>How will those universities pick up the shortfall?

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<v Speaker 1>And will will my son's unifees increase?

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<v Speaker 5>Our taxes are going towards the funding of weaponry, eating

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<v Speaker 5>the onslaught on the innocent people of Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing to stop this primement asay opposition lead.

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<v Speaker 6>And what you're going to do for some of our

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<v Speaker 6>all sort of areas like Tamil.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we want to increase Medicare funding so we want

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<v Speaker 2>to have to bear a strug up fee?

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<v Speaker 7>What will you do to ensure migration discussions remain respectful

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<v Speaker 7>and avoid demonizing migrants?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, look, I thought largely this was a who hum

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<v Speaker 2>sort of debate. No one made any major mistakes, nor

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<v Speaker 2>did anyone have any great wins, and that probably is

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<v Speaker 2>reflected in the twenty one percent who walked out of

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<v Speaker 2>that room still undecided on.

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<v Speaker 1>Who they would vote for.

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<v Speaker 2>They hit the points that they ought to hit, but

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't particularly get a feeling that anyone was landing

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<v Speaker 2>major blows in this debate. Probably the best performance I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen from Peter Dutton thus far, as Andrew Clonel said

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<v Speaker 2>earlier this evening here on skytes the best he's seen,

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<v Speaker 2>and if he still couldn't win that it gives some

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<v Speaker 2>indication of how much trouble he and the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 2>in the coalition may well be in. I do think

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<v Speaker 2>one of his strongest moments of the night, though, was

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<v Speaker 2>when he went back to someone who'd asked a question

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<v Speaker 2>about Medicare to ask, well, when you go to the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor are you just using that Medicare card that Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Albanezi keeps waving around?

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<v Speaker 8>Can I just ask, please? It's a great question, but

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<v Speaker 8>can I just ask what's your experience? So when you

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<v Speaker 8>go to the doctor that you talk about with the

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<v Speaker 8>gap fee, do you have to use your just your

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<v Speaker 8>Medicare card or do you have to use your credit

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<v Speaker 8>card as well?

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<v Speaker 9>Sport because billing doesn't cover the full chance I have.

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<v Speaker 1>To pay something.

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<v Speaker 4>But plead you tried when you were the healthman stuff

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<v Speaker 4>you tried to abolish folk billing by having a fee

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<v Speaker 4>every time people visit a doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you'd have to say, Liz, on the basis

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<v Speaker 2>of the numbers that came out of there, tonight, they're

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<v Speaker 2>really pushing it uphill the coalition at this point. I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was a great performance from Dutton, albeit not

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<v Speaker 2>a stiller one, but it was certainly better than we'd

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<v Speaker 2>seen on the campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Trail thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>And Albinisi, I don't think, really brought his a game.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just sort of meandering through the points that

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<v Speaker 2>he walked into the room with.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't fill you with a great deal of confidence.

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<v Speaker 9>No it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know about you, but I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 3>profoundly under welmed. I mean, look, nobody with a single

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<v Speaker 3>firing neuron actually thinks the Libs can win this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Flipping twenty three seats is you know that would take

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<v Speaker 3>an absolute act of God. But I think watching this

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<v Speaker 3>debate for many people, and as you said, it's reflected

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<v Speaker 3>in the undercided voters still leaving the debate.

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<v Speaker 9>I think Clive Palmer.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit it on the head in the ad that I

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<v Speaker 3>saw tonight, being like, this is the UNI Party. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>other than cheaper petrol and some new clear what is

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<v Speaker 3>the differences that these two major parties are taking to

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<v Speaker 3>the election.

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<v Speaker 9>Can you imagine if Trump ran against the Dems.

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<v Speaker 3>With this new policies, strong, well articulated policies that set.

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<v Speaker 9>Him apart from the Dems.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodness knows what the outcome would have been. People are

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<v Speaker 3>hungry for change. Dutts and the Libs had a great

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to actually just put the pedal to the metal,

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<v Speaker 3>being like, look, we're not going to flip twenty three seats,

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<v Speaker 3>but let's go our hardest, let's put the biggest dent

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<v Speaker 3>in it that we possibly can.

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<v Speaker 9>But I think more and more Australians instead.

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<v Speaker 3>Are waking up to the fact that there's very little

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<v Speaker 3>points of difference, especially on the issues that we bang

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<v Speaker 3>on about every single night.

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<v Speaker 9>They know it was the Libs that created.

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<v Speaker 3>The e Safety Commission, the supported restrictions on.

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<v Speaker 9>Free speech in other legislation.

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<v Speaker 3>They know this is the party that oversaw the burning

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<v Speaker 3>dumpster fire that was the pandemic response. They haven't done

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<v Speaker 3>anything about men in women's sports.

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<v Speaker 9>They refuse to leave the Paris Accords.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though with Trump with America pulling out of them,

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<v Speaker 3>they're completely useless. People are hankering to see this widening

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<v Speaker 3>gap between the two major parties that makes it clear

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<v Speaker 3>all right on these issues. That's where these guys get

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<v Speaker 3>my vote. That's where I'm putting it instead.

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<v Speaker 9>All I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 3>Across socials, especially because that's where you see feedback in

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<v Speaker 3>real time from just the average punter on the street

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<v Speaker 3>who are going to be going to the polling box,

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<v Speaker 3>is saying, what's the difference, I'm voting independent, I'm voting independent.

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<v Speaker 3>That seems to be popping up everywhere, and never more

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<v Speaker 3>so then directly after this debate.

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<v Speaker 2>And it reflects, of course, when you look at the

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<v Speaker 2>primary vote for the parties, because if you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the latest News poll, which of course showed that Labor

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<v Speaker 2>was back fifty two forty eight a two party preferred,

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't because of a great surge in the labor vote.

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<v Speaker 2>It was because one percent had been wiped off the

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<v Speaker 2>coalition's primary vote. So the primary vote is collapsing for

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<v Speaker 2>the major parties. And I know you've been campaigning with

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<v Speaker 2>the Libs Pray, so you've got a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>view from the inside about how all this is going.

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<v Speaker 1>Do the numbers tonight worry you?

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<v Speaker 7>I think, Look, I think Dutton did well tonight and

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<v Speaker 7>I think that is his to be commended for that. Also,

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<v Speaker 7>his father had a health episode right before coming out,

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<v Speaker 7>and I thought Dutton did a really good job at

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<v Speaker 7>not being baited by Alban easy, not coming across as

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<v Speaker 7>to sort of domineering or hardline. He's really had to

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<v Speaker 7>work hard at trying to soften his image a bit,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think he did well at that aspect of

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<v Speaker 7>the debate. One of the things that disappointed me about

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<v Speaker 7>the debate, and particularly the questions that were asked, was

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<v Speaker 7>just how shallow there they were. There was nothing about

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<v Speaker 7>long term reform. There was nothing about how we're going

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<v Speaker 7>to pay down the debt, how are we going to

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<v Speaker 7>reign in government spending, how are we going to actually

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<v Speaker 7>fix cost of living beyond a tiny tax cut or

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<v Speaker 7>twelve months of fuel excise relief, nothing around that, And

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<v Speaker 7>I just thought, if this is the state of political

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<v Speaker 7>debate in Australia where we're just worried about, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>my bits of funding for this and that and my

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<v Speaker 7>you know backyard. That stuff's all important, but there was

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<v Speaker 7>there was really very little in the.

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<v Speaker 6>Way of long term vision.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I think Dutton can still win this election

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred percent. He still can, but it will take

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<v Speaker 7>him inspiring a new vision for Australia, something that is bold.

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<v Speaker 7>That is different, and I think he has it in him.

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<v Speaker 7>He showed during the voice he can be bold, he

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<v Speaker 7>can be courageous.

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<v Speaker 6>He's just got to tap.

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<v Speaker 7>Back into that and then I think there is a

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<v Speaker 7>really good shot for the Liberals this election.

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<v Speaker 1>They certainly need something.

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<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned talk about debt and deficit and all

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<v Speaker 2>these kinds of things. Dutton did hit on it briefly.

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<v Speaker 2>He pointed out that Albanezi has been the highest spending

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister since Whitlam, but Albo falsely claimed that. In fact, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it was the Liberal Party that did that during COVID.

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<v Speaker 8>Take a look, are you the biggest spending government since

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<v Speaker 8>Whitlam so forty years? In forty years, there has not

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<v Speaker 8>been a higher spending government than your government. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's not true, except for the one that you

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<v Speaker 4>were a part of. Jeria's course, it's true, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>also true. It's also true that there was a seventy

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<v Speaker 4>eight billion dollar deficit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hold tight, because we have a story on the

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<v Speaker 2>front of The Australian a little later that dispel all

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<v Speaker 2>of that. But I suppose it's indicative of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that it just seems to have dropped off the agenda

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<v Speaker 2>as an issue now. I mean, you know, we're hurtling

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<v Speaker 2>towards trillion dollars of debt in the next financial year.

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<v Speaker 2>And that wasn't really the headline that came out of

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<v Speaker 2>the budget, was it. It's that you'll get a measly

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<v Speaker 2>five dollars a week tax cut. It's almost like it's

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<v Speaker 2>disappeared from the public consciousness. And of course it was

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<v Speaker 2>something that was so strong for the Libs for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time that almost seemingly they can't fight on anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and neither of them are talking about any kind

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<v Speaker 3>of reduction in government spending, which we know is what

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<v Speaker 3>drives inflation, which we know is what's killing us all

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<v Speaker 3>right now. Not one of them is like, oh, okay, kids,

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<v Speaker 3>time to pull our socks up tight now, belts. Things

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be tricky for a while, but we're

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<v Speaker 3>doing this for your children's children, so they won't be

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<v Speaker 3>paying down a ginormous debt. Not one of them has

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<v Speaker 3>said a word about that, And it's just another day

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<v Speaker 3>in government, isn't it. I guess they all know, as

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<v Speaker 3>Milton Freeman said, we're the ones responsible for the ridiculous

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<v Speaker 3>government spending because we incentivize them to keep promising us

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<v Speaker 3>all these freebies in the lead up to an election.

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<v Speaker 3>We all know winning election doesn't come cheap. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>to make all the promises that people want to hear. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>whether you deliver on them or not is a whole

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<v Speaker 3>nother thing once you actually get into power. We're all

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<v Speaker 3>still waiting for that two hundred and seventy five dollars.

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<v Speaker 9>Of our power bills.

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<v Speaker 3>But before he went to the debate and I Prime

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<v Speaker 3>Minister Alban Easy was doing a presser in Ashfield, Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>on the campaign trail when he was accosted by this

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<v Speaker 3>climate protester.

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<v Speaker 4>When it came to working from home and the sacking

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<v Speaker 4>of forty one thousand public services.

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<v Speaker 7>He's getting elected.

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<v Speaker 9>And the Prince.

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<v Speaker 1>And I haven't been.

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<v Speaker 3>Her name is Alexis Stewart, and I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 3>but it breaks my heart to see that young woman.

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<v Speaker 9>Who's clearly a true believer in.

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<v Speaker 3>The climate change narrative that has no doubt been fed

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<v Speaker 3>to her from a very young age. Indeed, here she

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<v Speaker 3>was later talking to reporters saying that she's suffered from

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<v Speaker 3>climate anxiety since she was fifteen.

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<v Speaker 5>I have experienced eco anxiety since I have been fifteen.

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<v Speaker 5>I am worried that my future will be full of

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<v Speaker 5>increased floods, fires, famines and drought.

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<v Speaker 6>And I know that the number one driver of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the continued approval of new coal and gas projects.

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<v Speaker 9>Is it any wonder?

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<v Speaker 3>According to a youth mental health organization here in Australia

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<v Speaker 3>by the name of Origin, last month they released.

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<v Speaker 9>Some research which showed that sixty.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven percent of the youth of today in Australia are

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<v Speaker 3>saying that this climate change narrative is having a very

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<v Speaker 3>negative effect on their mental health. Gen zas are the

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<v Speaker 3>fruits of the left's labor. When it comes to the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that they have been taught this from a very

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<v Speaker 3>young age, they are facing imminent doom.

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<v Speaker 9>And when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Put this together with how prevalent we know anxiety already is,

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<v Speaker 3>depression already is in these younger generations, is it any

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<v Speaker 3>wonder that for many young people like Alexis Stewart there

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<v Speaker 3>this is a very real and terrifying reality. And of course,

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<v Speaker 3>as we've discussed before, Freyer, absolutely nobody is being held

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<v Speaker 3>to account for the fact that these guys are suffering

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<v Speaker 3>due to having been indoctrinated in to this climate cult.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I also saw some pretty scary statistics that forty

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<v Speaker 7>three percent of young Australians between sixteen and twenty five

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<v Speaker 7>were hesitant to have children because of climate change. And

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<v Speaker 7>when you make those kinds of decisions, they live with

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<v Speaker 7>you for the rest of your life. So if you

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<v Speaker 7>put off having kids when you're young, that's it. You're done.

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<v Speaker 7>And to think that people like their whole lives are

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<v Speaker 7>being determined by these narratives that they've been taught, it's

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<v Speaker 7>very sad and it is no wonder Like I went

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<v Speaker 7>through the education system recently, went through university, and the

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<v Speaker 7>sense of doom and despair is palpable. Palpable on the

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<v Speaker 7>climate change front, but also more broadly, there is a

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<v Speaker 7>sense that the West is in decline, that where the

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<v Speaker 7>first generation that will be worse off than our parents.

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<v Speaker 7>That is all very real, but I think our leaders

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<v Speaker 7>have to step up and go. You were right to

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<v Speaker 7>be concerned. The world is uncertain. It is a scary place,

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<v Speaker 7>but human beings have always innovated our way out of crises.

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<v Speaker 6>In the early.

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<v Speaker 7>Nineteen hundreds, everyone thought London would be covered in horse

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<v Speaker 7>manure because everyone was driving horses and carriages, and where

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<v Speaker 7>was all all the pooh gonna go? Well, guess what,

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<v Speaker 7>We invented cars, And you know, people are scared of emissions,

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<v Speaker 7>of course, but we've invented nuclear and clean energy, and

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<v Speaker 7>there are a whole bunch of other innovations that are

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<v Speaker 7>now overcoming these problems. But it's the lack of optimism

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<v Speaker 7>in humanity that I think is just so sad, and

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<v Speaker 7>that bears itself out in climate change, but also in

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<v Speaker 7>a whole range of other areas. And I think we've

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<v Speaker 7>really let our young people down.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a number of things that play here. One I

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<v Speaker 2>think everyone who educated this woman ought to be put

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<v Speaker 2>in the gulag. I mean, and we should know, we

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<v Speaker 2>should point out out, we should point out she rocked

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<v Speaker 2>up to a presser that ALBERANIZI was giving to announce

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<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars of funding for mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the point she was making.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the reason my mental health is so bad and

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<v Speaker 2>the mental health of other young people in Australia as well,

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<v Speaker 2>is because we have this existential dread and crisis over

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<v Speaker 2>the future of the world that we are expected to

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<v Speaker 2>live in. Well, it's nonsense. I mean, the world's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to blow up tomorrow. She's not mentally ill or

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing any form of mental illness because the world is

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<v Speaker 2>going to end. She's experiencing dread and eco anxiety, as

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<v Speaker 2>she calls it, because people have put that in her brain.

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<v Speaker 2>People have convinced her that she should be anxious. She's

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<v Speaker 2>not actually anxious because she's looked at the world. She's

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<v Speaker 2>anxious because people have convinced her that.

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<v Speaker 1>She ought to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And the people who are pushing this stuff on kids

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<v Speaker 2>should hang their heads in shame. Take a good look

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<v Speaker 2>at yourself in the mirror and consider what you are

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<v Speaker 2>doing to young people. You are sapping them of their

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<v Speaker 2>will to live. I mean, these are the young people

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<v Speaker 2>of tomorrow who could actually go out and achieve the

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<v Speaker 2>advancement of the human race. And until this point, that

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<v Speaker 2>is what we have always driven to do to advance

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<v Speaker 2>the human race. We had the Industrial Revolution. At every

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<v Speaker 2>point in our existence, we have tried to move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the first time in history, we're reaching a

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<v Speaker 2>point where we're actually regressing, and we're willingly regressing because

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<v Speaker 2>we are being told we have to regress in order

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<v Speaker 2>to save the planet. It's just not how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>We are an adaptable species. I mean, are you telling

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<v Speaker 2>me that if the planet goes up another two percent

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<v Speaker 2>that we won't find a way to live with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we will find a way to live with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, the other thing you have to consider

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<v Speaker 2>in all of this is that it's about the destruction

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<v Speaker 2>of the capitalist system. And so if you convince people

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<v Speaker 2>that the world is going to end if we keep

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<v Speaker 2>advancing humanity, and of course humanity has been advanced through

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<v Speaker 2>business and the capitalist system, well we better dismantle the

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<v Speaker 2>capitalist system. It all plays in together, and what you

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<v Speaker 2>end up with in the end, all these young people

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<v Speaker 2>who just can't hack the world they're living in because

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<v Speaker 2>they're told they're.

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<v Speaker 9>Going to die, they are the victims. Gen Z in

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<v Speaker 9>particular are the victims.

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<v Speaker 3>Goodness knows what kids today now coming up through whichever

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<v Speaker 3>gen that is coming up through Alpha.

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<v Speaker 9>They're being taught this.

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<v Speaker 3>As young as jolly pre school because we have these

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<v Speaker 3>lefty activists in our educational system and there seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be no rooting.

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<v Speaker 9>Them out, and certainly no political will to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, and they don't have the brain capacity, particularly

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<v Speaker 2>primary school age children to understand these massive concepts that

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<v Speaker 2>are being put in front of them that the world

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<v Speaker 2>is going to end.

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<v Speaker 3>And any wonder then that people like Violet Coco and

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<v Speaker 3>many others who when they're finally bought before a court

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<v Speaker 3>of law because you know, you've held up the Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>Harbor Bridge.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>People just trying to go about their lawful business. They

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<v Speaker 3>get let off with a slap on the risk. Why

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<v Speaker 3>because of climate anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>As Pink Floyd once saying, we don't need no education,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't need no thought control. All in all, just

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<v Speaker 2>another brick in the wall. And so it goes as

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<v Speaker 2>well when we.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about universities.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean this stuff is just going on in primary

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<v Speaker 2>and high schools, etc. It's going on in the universities

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And we don't have record numbers of people

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<v Speaker 2>being admitted to universities with special dispensation for problems such

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<v Speaker 2>as divorce, disability, and poverty.

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<v Speaker 1>A third of all university.

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<v Speaker 2>Students are now being admitted with some sort of special dispensation.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there's been a large increase because in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>or twenty twenty one, there was this system brought in

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<v Speaker 2>where they take into account your postcode and the school

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<v Speaker 2>you went to, so you would be able to get

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<v Speaker 2>further up the queue if you perhaps came from an

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<v Speaker 2>area with a lower socioeconomic background.

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<v Speaker 1>That accounts for some of it.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's been a forty two percent increase in people

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<v Speaker 2>getting into university with a special requirement because of a

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<v Speaker 2>disability or a medical condition, or what they call family disruption,

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<v Speaker 2>which comes in the form of a death in the family,

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<v Speaker 2>or domestic violence or divorce, or they say they're going

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<v Speaker 2>through financial woes. So you get an extra chance or

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<v Speaker 2>an extra shot to go into university above someone else

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<v Speaker 2>who perhaps hasn't had their parents divorce, or perhaps doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a disability, etc. Or isn't struggling with money right now,

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<v Speaker 2>or happened to be born in a suburb that had

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<v Speaker 2>a higher socioeconomic background than yours. A third of all

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<v Speaker 2>university entrants now fall into that category. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's two points here. We are continually afraid at getting

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<v Speaker 2>people into university. You probably shouldn't be there in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place. We just say come one, come more. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't care, and the unis don't care because they get

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<v Speaker 2>your money once you sign up. I think you've just

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<v Speaker 2>got to be there for a year and then if

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<v Speaker 2>you drop out, it doesn't matter. They still get your

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<v Speaker 2>funding anyway, so they don't particularly give a toss. But

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<v Speaker 2>surely you're then sending a bunch of people perhaps ant

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<v Speaker 2>up to the job and then will eventually discover that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not really cut out for UNI and they've wasted

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<v Speaker 2>one or two or three or four years of their

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<v Speaker 2>lives getting there, and then they've got to go and

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<v Speaker 2>find something else to do.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, that's exactly the problem, because our universities in Australia

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<v Speaker 7>have turned into multi billion dollar corporations and for them

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<v Speaker 7>to keep expanding and keep climbing the global rankings, they

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<v Speaker 7>need to keep growing. And so how do you do that, Well,

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<v Speaker 7>you recruit more students. So it's actually in the university's

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<v Speaker 7>interest to open up access to university, whether or not

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<v Speaker 7>it is in the interests of those students to actually

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<v Speaker 7>attain a university degree. And the problem is it's actually

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<v Speaker 7>these children, these kids that are being admitted to university

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<v Speaker 7>with a lower ATA score than is required, are being

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<v Speaker 7>put into an environment where they are already at a disadvantage.

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<v Speaker 7>Because if you haven't attained the ATA, Chances are you

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<v Speaker 7>will struggle to keep up with the curriculum, with the

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<v Speaker 7>academic rigor that's required to complete the degree, and at

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<v Speaker 7>the very least you're going to be behind the rest

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<v Speaker 7>of your peers in your degree. And what this actually

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<v Speaker 7>does is it sets the kids up for failure. So

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<v Speaker 7>if you look at kids entering university, those who had

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<v Speaker 7>an ATAR ninety five and above, the dropout rate was

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<v Speaker 7>only four percent. If you had an ATAR below seventy

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<v Speaker 7>seventy is the average. So if you have a below

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<v Speaker 7>average ETAR, around one third of those students are dropping out.

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<v Speaker 7>Now dropout rates across the board are around twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 7>Now that is terrible for the students because they finish

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<v Speaker 7>without a degree and with a whole bunch of debt

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<v Speaker 7>and having lost years of their lives.

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<v Speaker 6>But who wins from that the universities. And so this

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<v Speaker 6>is the problem we're in.

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<v Speaker 7>How do we actually refocus universities on not just being

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<v Speaker 7>huge profit making juggernauts and actually serving the interests of

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<v Speaker 7>one our nation and two the Australian public they're supposedly

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<v Speaker 7>here to serve.

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<v Speaker 3>And the fact that they've ordered down the academic standards

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<v Speaker 3>in order to allow more students in simply because oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you've qualified for being at some sort of disadvantage.

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<v Speaker 9>Just means how are these kids going to do even if.

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<v Speaker 3>They did graduate, How are they going to do if

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<v Speaker 3>they've been modelly, model goddled.

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<v Speaker 9>Through their entire degree?

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<v Speaker 3>And I witnessed that when I was at you said,

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<v Speaker 3>just three years ago, people doing the same degree as me,

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<v Speaker 3>a jurist doctor. It was one of the most intensive

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<v Speaker 3>courses I've certainly ever done. They were struggling, some of

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<v Speaker 3>them couldn't read properly, but they were being mollycoddled by

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<v Speaker 3>the system.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm thinking, how.

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<v Speaker 3>On earth are you going to be a lawyer, much

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<v Speaker 3>less a good one if you have trouble reading? Come on,

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<v Speaker 3>where is just the practical set in this?

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<v Speaker 9>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>When this made the news today that one in three

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<v Speaker 3>of we're talking over one point six million university students.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we say one in three, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of thousands of kids availing themselves.

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<v Speaker 9>Of these.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm at a disadvantage points in order to get into UNI.

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<v Speaker 3>Kim Paino, the University Admissions Center managing director, explain this

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<v Speaker 3>away by saying, oh, this reflects a combination of factors,

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<v Speaker 3>increased awareness of the scheme, more accurate diagnosis of neurodivergent

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 3>conditions like ADHD and ASD, and the lingering effects of

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<v Speaker 3>the pandemic. More students are now increasingly confident in seeking support,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's critical they know that higher education remains firmly

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<v Speaker 3>within reach regardless of their circumstances. But like you say, Freyer,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it shouldn't be within reach. Maybe we are doing

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<v Speaker 3>these kids a disservers. And in the line term, any

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<v Speaker 3>society that isn't built on a hierarchy of competence, you

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<v Speaker 3>are inviting complete chaos. So it doesn't matter whether these

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<v Speaker 3>kids are trying to be lawyers or they're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>be social workers or whatever. The course, the path that

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<v Speaker 3>they've chosen to take is how are they going to

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<v Speaker 3>go in the workforce?

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<v Speaker 2>Or mss Pain, whether she knows it or not, has

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<v Speaker 2>pointed out one of the large.

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<v Speaker 1>Problems here when she says, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, we've now got accurate diagnoses of neurodivergent conditions like ADHD.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, every man and his dog and his dog's

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<v Speaker 2>cousin's brother now has ADHD alleged, right, And these are

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<v Speaker 2>the things that they're using to say, well, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to be at an advantage because I'm at a disadvantage

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<v Speaker 2>in order to get into university. And ADHD is very

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<v Speaker 2>different in some people to what it is in other people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I went to school with kids

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<v Speaker 2>you absolutely say we're ADHD. Like they were bouncing off

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<v Speaker 2>the walls, disrupt in the class all the time. They

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 2>couldn't get their school work done.

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:04.400
<v Speaker 1>They had a problem.

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.679
<v Speaker 2>But now you walk into a psych's office and you

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<v Speaker 2>sort of fit it with your leg a bit too.

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<v Speaker 1>Much, and they'll tell you you've got ADHD.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, all of a sudden, you're in university with

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<v Speaker 2>a lower ATAR than you ought to be in there with.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a big problem, I think, Liz.

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<v Speaker 9>It absolutely is.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is one that psychiatrist Pat McGrory has talked

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<v Speaker 3>about in today's paper. He says the uncertainty around this

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<v Speaker 3>boundary that is qualifying to be ADHD explains the variation

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<v Speaker 3>as ADHD traits overlap with a lot of typical thinking

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 3>and behavior. Almost everyone can qualify to some extent. The

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 3>criteria for diagnosis includes such things as poor time management,

0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:56.879
<v Speaker 3>losing things, being forgetful, or easily distracted and disliking tasks

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 3>like schoolwork or homework.

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<v Speaker 9>Guys, I think I've just realized I have a HDD.

0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Me too, My goodness, self.

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<v Speaker 9>Jokes to one side.

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<v Speaker 3>The latest PBS data shows that there's over a million

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<v Speaker 3>ossies supposedly with ADHD. But get this, the number of

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<v Speaker 3>ossies on ADHD medications surged by almost three hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>in the last ten years. The real question we need

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<v Speaker 3>to be asking is why, where the heck has.

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<v Speaker 9>This come from?

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Prescriptions more than doubled between twenty twenty and twenty twenty three.

0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:44.159
<v Speaker 9>Those are the COVID years. I wonder why was it?

0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 3>Because a lot of really healthy people were locked up

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<v Speaker 3>in their homes like animals, left with nothing but the

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<v Speaker 3>thoughts in their head, and started self diagnosing themselves. Because

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<v Speaker 3>there's a big relationship between ADHD and anxiety and depression.

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.879
<v Speaker 3>If you extend that data back to twenty and thirteen,

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about a four hundred and ninety six percent

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 3>increase in adult prescriptions for ADHD in Australia alone. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a pandemic of ADHD prescriptions and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people now on these medications and nobody I'm aware of

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<v Speaker 3>is doing any research to ask the basic question of

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<v Speaker 3>why you saw a four hundred and ninety six percent

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<v Speaker 3>increase over the last ten years, and you're not curious

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<v Speaker 3>about what the heck is going on.

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<v Speaker 9>It's negligent.

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<v Speaker 6>It is absolutely crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>And if you think about the impact on productivity of

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 7>all of these people suddenly self diagnosing with ADHD and

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 7>then excusing behaviors that are symptomatic of ADHD that we

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:01.239
<v Speaker 7>in maybe past years, we'd just call ill discipline or

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:04.880
<v Speaker 7>laziness or disorganization. Now, all of a sudden, you can

0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 7>pathologize it, and it's not your fault, it's someone else's fault,

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 7>and you can just get on drugs to fix it

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 7>without actually fixing your own personal will or basically absolving

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<v Speaker 7>yourself of responsibility. I just think this is ridiculous, and

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 7>this is part of the broadest shift we've seen in

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<v Speaker 7>our society where everything has to have a name, everything

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<v Speaker 7>has to have a medical diagnosis. I mean, it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 7>The fact that ten percent of almost ten percent of

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<v Speaker 7>five to seven year old children are on the ndis

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<v Speaker 7>for example, ten percent, ten percent of children should not

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<v Speaker 7>be disabled like that is a terrible, terrible outcome and

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 7>so I think we have to You're exactly right, Liz.

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:48.520
<v Speaker 7>We have to ask, well, why is this happening? Sure,

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 7>there is there has been a destigmatization of mental health,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's a good thing. It is good that more

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 7>people are seeking help and dealing with things that in

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.280
<v Speaker 7>days gone past would have been brushed under the pushed

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 7>under a carpet. But then I think we also have

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<v Speaker 7>to address the environmental factors that could be leading to

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<v Speaker 7>this huge increase, because you don't suddenly get a generation

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 7>whose brains have completely rewired themselves and literally stopped working.

0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 7>That doesn't just happen miraculously over one decade.

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 6>There has to be something that's going on here.

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 7>And so I think we have to be looking at screens,

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 7>how we're parenting children, what's going on in our schools,

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 7>the diets, exercise, like, there are so many factors that

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 7>go into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb, Yeah, And I mean it's social contagion to some degree.

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 2>You've got the element of self diagnosis. People see, you know,

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 2>things like Patrick gor Is talking about, oh, you know,

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I forget my keys all the time.

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh geez, I think I might have ADHD.

0:29:46.560 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 2>And then they go and shop for a doctor who

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<v Speaker 2>will give them the official diagnosis and then hey, presto,

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 2>you've got ADHD. And this goes on to some degree

0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 2>with autism as well, because when you're talking about children,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the is funding attached for schools and other

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>outfits for children who were diagnosed with autism or ADHD.

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Not in the case of ADHD, but certainly in the

0:30:08.920 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 2>case of autism. You get on the NDAs you get

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 2>funding right, and so parents will go and push sykes

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 2>to say, well, my kid deserves the day, needs the diagnosis.

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>You've got to give in the diagnosis, and they'll cut

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>crook if a doctor actually says, well, no, I don't

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>think your kid qualifies, and then they'll go to someone

0:30:26.520 --> 0:30:28.720
<v Speaker 2>else who will give it to them. These things have

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 2>been so overblown and there is taxpayers money tied up

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 2>in all of it. There was a story not that

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<v Speaker 2>long ago where the largest the schools sorry, where the

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<v Speaker 2>largest number of students were getting special requirements in their

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 2>exams were not as you would suspect maybe lower socioeconomic schools.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>They were schools in higher socioeconomic areas, particularly private schools.

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 2>So this might be things like you get an extra

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 2>ten minutes in your exam or you get to do

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<v Speaker 2>it on a computer instead of writing with a pen.

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Special requirements that you get given because apparently you've got

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:07.440
<v Speaker 2>something that means you needed. It's going on mostly in

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>higher socioeconomic and private schools because they've worked out how

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 2>to game the system. Oh this kid's got adhd well,

0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>they can be at an advantage. Now that's going on,

0:31:18.920 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 2>and that's what needs to be stopped. Now another council story.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's yet another night on the Late debate,

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>isn't it when I've got a negative council story for you?

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 2>But here is one. We'll go down to Victoria tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne Merrybeck Council, the council with a made up name,

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>and yes that is true. You may well remember when

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:38.480
<v Speaker 2>they changed their name to Mery Beck because it was

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 2>allegedly an indigenous name. A local indigenous elder came out

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 2>and said, no, we've never heard of Mary Beck in

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>the language. But so woke they are that they've got

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 2>their fake indigenous name that they're now going to paint

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Pride flags on footpaths and on streets.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to the council this week to be endorsed.

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<v Speaker 2>They've got eight places where they say they potentially want

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<v Speaker 2>to do this. It's going to cost them forty five

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<v Speaker 2>grand to put some colorful paint in eight places on

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<v Speaker 2>the road and the footpath.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need Pride flags on the road anyway, or

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 2>the foot bath. I thought the point of the foot

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.480
<v Speaker 2>bath was to put my feet on it, and the

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>point of the road was to put my car on it.

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I would have thought it was rather insulting to trample

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.840
<v Speaker 2>on a flag or drive over a flag. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure why that's the place you'd want to put it

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 2>in the first place.

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 1>They're going to.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Spend five grand on public consultation, so they've already decided

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.479
<v Speaker 2>the eight places where they think they're going to do it.

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.719
<v Speaker 2>But they could have just been five grand asking people

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 2>whether they should put them there in the first place.

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Why do councils do their stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you want to talk about painting on the

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:52.080
<v Speaker 2>roads for forty five grand, how about finding some potholes.

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 1>Just go and fill the potholes in right.

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>There's so many other things you could be doing with

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 2>roads instead of painting gay.

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Flag the well.

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 3>Apparently there's no cost of living crisis in Merribeck Council.

0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 3>If you think that this is a good use of

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 3>forty five thousand dollars, get this though, the size of

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:15.480
<v Speaker 3>these flags will be large enough to stretch across entire intersections,

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 3>measuring an estimated eight meters in length and four meters

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Why these things are going to be absolutely ginormous jokes

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 3>on me because I laugh every time I go to

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Wavery Council, which is Bondi way here in Sydney. They've

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 3>got a ginormous rainbow around their council building. You have

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 3>to step or drive over it in order to get

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<v Speaker 3>into the council chambers.

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<v Speaker 9>And I've always thought that this is just as ridiculous

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 9>as the racism not welcome.

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 3>He assigns that councils have also spent tens of thousands

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 3>of dollars on because again, why are you infering that

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.600
<v Speaker 3>people in your patch are racists?

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:00.720
<v Speaker 9>Why are you infering that they're bigoted?

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 3>That you need to have these massive, grandiose signs and

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 3>displays of these kinds of people are welcome here. If

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.040
<v Speaker 3>you're a man that sleeps with men, you are welcome here.

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 3>What in God's name is going on that this has

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 3>become a trend. Now, how about we just say everyone's

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 3>welcome everywhere.

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 9>We are one, but we are many. This is Australia.

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 3>We're a melting pot of races creeds from all.

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:31.000
<v Speaker 9>Over the world.

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 3>And yes that includes any gender identities.

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:36.240
<v Speaker 9>And it just goes without saying.

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 3>But now, Freyer, we've created this culture in which, unless

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 3>you fly the flag and put up your racism not

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 3>welcome here, it's implied that those people.

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 9>Aren't welcome in your council.

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.360
<v Speaker 3>This is the ridiculous situation we've created.

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 9>And here's the thing. If you actually put these up

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:59.719
<v Speaker 9>in a council, that worsea anti LGBTIQ, right. So I

0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 9>don't how you'd figure that out.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 3>But let's say that they thought they were addressing an actual,

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 3>real issue in their community.

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:11.640
<v Speaker 9>You just show the flames of resentment. It's going to

0:35:11.680 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 9>be an absolute own goal.

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<v Speaker 7>I just don't understand why councils keep doing this. Now

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 7>I'm in the Inner West Council and they spent a

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<v Speaker 7>whole They spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on a

0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 7>pride statue, like literally just a statue, a rainbow statue

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.800
<v Speaker 7>in Newtown. Meanwhile, I'm driving through the streets of Roselle,

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 7>and it's like you could be driving in a country town.

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes the roads are so bad, poorly maintained, the grass

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:39.879
<v Speaker 7>and the median strips aren't moan.

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:40.839
<v Speaker 6>It's like, what are we.

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 7>Paying rates for some of the highest rates, by the way,

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 7>for pride statues in Newtown when our own grass is

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 7>not moan and the roads aren't maintained.

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<v Speaker 6>It is just ridiculous.

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 9>Now.

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<v Speaker 7>I was going to say, I don't know if anyone

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 7>in Marybeck voted for this, but then I started digging

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 7>into the council att bit more, and look, I think

0:35:59.320 --> 0:36:02.000
<v Speaker 7>they deserve exactly what they get because they have a

0:36:02.120 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 7>socialist on the council and until two months ago they

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.040
<v Speaker 7>were flying the Palestinian flag, and back in twenty twenty

0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 7>four they wanted to double the rates just for landlords

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 7>in Merriback. So I will not be moving to Merriback

0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:17.880
<v Speaker 7>anytime soon. And if they're voting for socialist councils, then

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 7>their rates can be spent on pride flags.

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 2>Look, look, I deserve the right to drive over the

0:36:23.520 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Pride flag. I've have forgotten, no sake, what I'm not

0:36:26.560 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 2>living in a serious city unless there is a.

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 1>Pride flag on the road that I can drive a

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<v Speaker 1>va over. That's how it goes in this coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously, don't build one in La Kimber and see how

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<v Speaker 2>it goes. After the break, we'll get into the papers.

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<v Speaker 2>One state is getting rid of their renewable energies targets. Yes,

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 2>it's only one that can.

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>It should cause the dominos to fall. We'll find out

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<v Speaker 1>apple this well.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier on in the Sky News Daily Telegraph People's Forum,

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albert these he said, no, he's not been part

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<v Speaker 2>of the higher spending government since whittlerm He said, it

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<v Speaker 2>was you, mister Dutton in the COVID years in the

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<v Speaker 2>highest spending government.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think we have some new numbers on the

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<v Speaker 1>front of the OS.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, the OS seems to have pre empted this claim

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 3>by Alban Easy with this headline smacking his claim down.

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<v Speaker 3>Labor lifts spending higher than COVID years.

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<v Speaker 9>The headline reads.

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<v Speaker 3>Labor's spending will reach more than thirty thousand per person

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 3>within four years, eclipsing government expenditure during the pandemic and

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.959
<v Speaker 3>reaching the highest per capita levels on record. As Peter

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<v Speaker 3>Dutton says, the country will be plunged into recession. If

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony Albanesi is returned to office, well I guess we're

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<v Speaker 3>getting plunged into a recession then. But of course Anthony

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<v Speaker 3>Albanisi will just blame this on Trump's global trade war.

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:57.920
<v Speaker 3>It's all those tariffs and the effects that it's hard

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<v Speaker 3>on the supply chains, and I can see it now.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll just be too easy for him to dodge being like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>this isn't really at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the whole Trump situations would have been manner

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<v Speaker 2>from heaven for Albanizi desert. He's been loving it because

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<v Speaker 2>again it's something else he can point to. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that even tonight he was carrying on about the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that, oh, well you know, you don't were part

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<v Speaker 2>of a COVID government, so you spend a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you point out how much money I've been spending.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I didn't see labor come up with a

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<v Speaker 2>better plan throughout COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll maintain it.

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<v Speaker 2>I said at the time that the inflation that came

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<v Speaker 2>afterwards was entirely predictable, because what happens when you pump

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of government money into an economy.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly what we saw happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't see Albanizi or anyone else jumping up

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<v Speaker 2>and down at the time saying I know how to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do it for least money.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 7>In fact, labor wanted to spend more, fifty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 7>more if I recall correctly, and remember when labor came in,

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<v Speaker 7>inflation was already running it around six percent. There was

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<v Speaker 7>no reason. Unemployment was already very low, inflation was high.

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<v Speaker 7>There was absolutely no reason for them to spend an

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<v Speaker 7>extra four hundred and twenty five billion dollars, which is

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<v Speaker 7>what they've done over the last three years. So when

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<v Speaker 7>they should have been raining in government spending to bring

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<v Speaker 7>down inflation, so the RBA didn't have to hike rate

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<v Speaker 7>so much, they just went, heck, let's provide cost of

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<v Speaker 7>living relief that actually just pushes up inflation and makes

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<v Speaker 7>the cost of living worse. Like they are just their

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<v Speaker 7>understanding of economics. I hate to say, it is just

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<v Speaker 7>so limited. They should stick to the political science.

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<v Speaker 3>Like doctor Jim, you won't get any argument from us.

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<v Speaker 3>Another extraordinary story on the front of the OS. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're with Australian super you might want to check your bank, well,

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:42.720
<v Speaker 3>not your bank balance, but your superbalance. Australian Super sat

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<v Speaker 3>on its hands for almost a week after scammer's wiped

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<v Speaker 3>out more than four hundred thousand dollars from a member's

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<v Speaker 3>account and funneled it through the Commonwealth Bank, only alerting

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<v Speaker 3>the bank six days after the victim raised the alarms.

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<v Speaker 3>So get this. This was revealed by The Australian on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is further on the story. Scammers siphoned four

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and six thousand dollars from a seventy four year

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 3>old Queensland woman's account between March twenty and March twenty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>wiping out ninety percent of her retirement seetings. She called

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<v Speaker 3>them up. Props to her for noticing. I certainly wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't remember the last time I checked my super.

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<v Speaker 9>She called, this is what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>And whoever she spoke to you in the call center

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even escalate it, didn't even tell anyone.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey, this woman's just had almost half.

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<v Speaker 3>A million dollars disappear, just be withdrawn from her account.

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<v Speaker 9>What an extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, she obviously knew it was not there because she's

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<v Speaker 2>relying on this Money's bloody, she's gone hang on a

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<v Speaker 2>Minuifi retirements able to.

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<v Speaker 1>This is piece poor by Australian Super.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you expect a certain level of service, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>but I suspect that they were so embarrassed by what

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<v Speaker 2>happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea that.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone could just take someone else's super annuation away and

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<v Speaker 2>they were like, oh, well, we'll just kind of bury

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<v Speaker 2>it and think we'll get away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is really bad back.

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<v Speaker 7>But the fact that it took them six days from

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<v Speaker 7>when she called up to when they actually notified the bank, Like,

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<v Speaker 7>that's what I don't understand. If someone calls you up, going, hey,

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 7>I think ninety five percent of my retirement savings are gone,

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<v Speaker 7>you go straight to the top alarm pell should be ringing,

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<v Speaker 7>But no, I don't know what the call center was doing,

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<v Speaker 7>but they should be sacked.

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<v Speaker 9>Indeed, imagine being this pensioner.

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<v Speaker 3>She was actually notified by two letters from Australian Super

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<v Speaker 3>just being like just confirming these withdrawals, because there were

0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:51.760
<v Speaker 3>six different withdrawals, just confirming these withdrawals that you made.

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<v Speaker 9>Can you imagine reading those letters? You'd feel sick to

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<v Speaker 9>your stomach.

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<v Speaker 3>Third headline on the front of the oards Queensland, you

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<v Speaker 3>acts renewable targets in blow to labor federal government.

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<v Speaker 9>Do you have any states left on board at this rate?

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<v Speaker 3>Queensland will dismantle the mining state's renewable energy targets and

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<v Speaker 3>keep call fired power stations operating for at least another decade,

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<v Speaker 3>throwing Anthony Albanesi's climate vision into jeopardy.

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<v Speaker 9>My goodness, I genuinely.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know that there's a state left on board with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't name a state now that doesn't have green

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.680
<v Speaker 3>hydrogen projects or ice or they've just turfed them all together.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's just to name one of the kinds of

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<v Speaker 3>projects that the FEDS have been pushing their entire ten

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<v Speaker 3>You well.

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<v Speaker 2>Reality bites, doesn't it eventually, And they're saying, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>to keep the coul fired power stations open. I hope

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton's reading that story tomorrow and taking some inspiration

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<v Speaker 2>from it, because, as we're talking about earlier, we need

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<v Speaker 2>something bold on the table, and that sounds like something

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<v Speaker 2>good to me, saying, look, we all know we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to meet these zero by twenty thirty targets. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to meet our renewable energy targets by twenty thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's just throw it all out and start again.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, and you've seen in Victoria and New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 7>both labor states, and they've been forced to spend hundreds

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<v Speaker 7>of millions of dollars of taxpayer money extending coal five

0:43:20.680 --> 0:43:24.800
<v Speaker 7>power plants because you simply cannot wish your way into

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.480
<v Speaker 7>a net zero world. Eventually you actually have to confront

0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.960
<v Speaker 7>reality and deal with the hard reality that hey, we

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 7>need always on power, not power that just stops when

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 7>it's not sunny and it's not windy. And now over

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<v Speaker 7>in the Newcastle Herald on that energy theme, reactors drought

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<v Speaker 7>of luck. Five of the coalition's seven planned nuclear power stations,

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<v Speaker 7>including the one slated for the Hunter, could be turned

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<v Speaker 7>off or run at a trickle during drought to avoid

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<v Speaker 7>rewriting the way scarce water resources are distributed in Australia.

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<v Speaker 7>Now opposition leader previously announced his plants to build the

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<v Speaker 7>nuclear plants at existing col fire facilities, costing around three

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<v Speaker 7>hundred and thirty billion dollars, and one of these in

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<v Speaker 7>Newcastle was one selected. But part of this pitch was

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 7>that no extra water would be required. Except now the

0:44:20.360 --> 0:44:25.759
<v Speaker 7>group liberals against nuclear have commissioned a study which says, no,

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<v Speaker 7>you would need a lot of extra water to run

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:33.320
<v Speaker 7>these nuclear plants. But look, I would rather have nuclear

0:44:33.680 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 7>that may not work in a drought than solar and

0:44:36.719 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 7>wind that will definitely not work when it's dark and

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 7>it's not windy. It's like, obviously there are risks with nuclear,

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:46.959
<v Speaker 7>but the risks with solar and wind are so much

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 7>more obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and we know what happened in South Australia when

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.160
<v Speaker 2>they had a storm as well, back in twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>But so what if it requires more water.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, sure you can make the environmental argument that

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<v Speaker 2>sits not great, but they know what happens with the

0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:03.839
<v Speaker 2>solar panels and wind turbines when they get decommissioned, don't they.

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 2>And there's no way of doing this that is one

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent good for the planet. No.

0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:13.240
<v Speaker 3>And as we've discussed before, these locations aren't set in stone.

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 3>So if new research like this were to come to

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 3>light that makes certain locations no longer feasible or affordable

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 3>for whatever reasons, they'll just come up with we're not

0:45:25.680 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 3>getting the picks out. There's no tractors turning sod. Yet,

0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 3>everyone calm down. There will be so much homework that

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:38.880
<v Speaker 3>goes into finalizing, should it come to this, finalizing the

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.919
<v Speaker 3>locations of these nuclear energy plants very.

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<v Speaker 1>Quickly before we get to the break.

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<v Speaker 2>On the front of the cans Post tomorrow, it says

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<v Speaker 2>Neil for Trump they're in p candidate in a must

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 2>win Queensland seat, previously blamed feminists for aiding Donald Trump's

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>election loss and label China a grub of a country.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what the problem is, to be.

0:45:57.280 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Honest, Larkhardt hopeful Jeremy Neil, on the social media platform

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>previously known as Twitter, also railed against COVID nineteen restrictions, vaccines,

0:46:05.239 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 2>and for the ABC to be defunded. He has now

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>apologized and said that his comments were poorly worded, and

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 2>he offered an unreserved apology. But I mean, for goodness sake,

0:46:17.080 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>you can't even tell the truth anymore without ending app

0:46:20.080 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 2>on the front of the paper with some sort of gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why we don't get people going into politics,

0:46:25.360 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 2>because they don't want to deal with this stuff. After

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the break, politician versus Ostrich, who's going to win?

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<v Speaker 1>We'll show you the footage soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you can get over your eco anxiety and

0:46:38.440 --> 0:46:40.440
<v Speaker 2>leave the house, you may well want to go to

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:44.200
<v Speaker 2>an eco retreat, which people had been doing in Sweden

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<v Speaker 2>until it all came undone Forreyer.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's right.

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<v Speaker 7>A Danish couple is on the run, having fled to

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:54.440
<v Speaker 7>Guatemala evading tax authorities in Denmark.

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<v Speaker 6>Except the awkward part.

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<v Speaker 7>Is they ran this eco retreat, but upon the vanishing,

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<v Speaker 7>it's now been discovered that in their wake they have

0:47:05.600 --> 0:47:10.479
<v Speaker 7>left behind no less than one hundred and fifty eight

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 7>barrels of human waste. They also pumped waste water directly

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 7>into the forest, and they abandoned animals. Some ducks even

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:28.160
<v Speaker 7>died after being left outside overnight by this couple that

0:47:28.360 --> 0:47:31.640
<v Speaker 7>claimed to be running a luxury eco retreat.

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:34.760
<v Speaker 6>It's like, I just love this from the eco warriors.

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.160
<v Speaker 7>It's like, we'll claim to stand for the environment, but

0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:42.200
<v Speaker 7>then we're gonna leave behind one hundred and fifty eight

0:47:42.400 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 7>barrels of human effluent and destroy the environment around us.

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 2>How had no one picked up on the smell before

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 2>all of this happened. But what the bit I don't

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 2>get is you've got one hundred and fifty eight barrels

0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:56.680
<v Speaker 2>of the stuff, so you've been hoarding this for quite.

0:47:56.440 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Some time as your prize jewels.

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.200
<v Speaker 2>But if you were an eco warrior and you've got

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:05.440
<v Speaker 2>barrels full of Pooh and Wii, wouldn't you just bury

0:48:05.520 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 2>them and enrich the soil.

0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:09.320
<v Speaker 1>On your hand?

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<v Speaker 9>That would be eco friendly. But what a sham. Just

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.200
<v Speaker 9>another another day, another sham. Well.

0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:20.120
<v Speaker 3>Former UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is in what appears

0:48:20.160 --> 0:48:23.399
<v Speaker 3>to be Texas at a wildlife park on a holidays,

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.840
<v Speaker 3>taking the todd largest to see the sights and sounds

0:48:27.120 --> 0:48:30.719
<v Speaker 3>when an ostrich decided to take him on, despite him

0:48:30.800 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 3>sitting there in the safety well he thought the safety

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 3>of his own car. The video was shared to social

0:48:48.560 --> 0:48:51.920
<v Speaker 3>media by his wife, Carrie Johnson, with the caption too

0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 3>funny not to share hilarious. The toddler thought it was hilarious.

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Would they let your dad gets picked by bloody osby?

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to know which of the policies this

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.319
<v Speaker 2>ostricher obviously had a problem with.

0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, saw Boris Johnson coming and thought I don't

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:08.880
<v Speaker 1>like this.

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<v Speaker 7>I just love how Boris Johnson is just he just

0:49:12.400 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 7>always embodies Boris.

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 6>He's so funny, like him or not.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it from US tonight Coming up nets to reader

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<v Speaker 1>Paddy