WEBVTT - SUPPORTING YOUR FRIENDS THROUGH HARD TIMES

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go on the sauna because I'm pregnant, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can can't go on the sauna if you're pregnant, Matt,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank god, I'm never getting pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's Your Head At?

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<v Speaker 3>Is a podcast that talks full things right, Hold on

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<v Speaker 3>a sec, let's give this a refresh.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Anna and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Matt, and we are now too newlywed not to

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<v Speaker 2>each other. Just a female and male best friend here

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<v Speaker 2>for the good, the bad, and the ugly times and.

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<v Speaker 3>Exploring adulthood, family relationships, dilemmas.

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<v Speaker 2>And whatever else we have the mental capacity to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>Come get the lowdown.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your male and female perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Matt, where's your head At?

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<v Speaker 2>Morning? Anna?

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning? How are you today?

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<v Speaker 2>What the best? Well? I'm good, but I burnt my tongue.

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<v Speaker 2>You know when you're burn your tongue. I took a

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<v Speaker 2>sip of my green tea on the way in. I

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<v Speaker 2>normally top it up with a little bit of cold water,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know. I was feeling ambitious today and

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<v Speaker 2>it was still hot. By the time I got to

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<v Speaker 2>the studio, it was still boiling hot. It took a

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<v Speaker 2>sip and it burned.

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<v Speaker 1>My tiping hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love my herbal teas though, you know me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm getting back on the herbal teas now. I've

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<v Speaker 3>actually just come from the hospital straight to the Novas

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<v Speaker 3>studios to record this thank you. I would like around

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<v Speaker 3>or clause.

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<v Speaker 2>She does it for everyone, she does it for you.

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<v Speaker 3>So long story short, I have been really low in

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<v Speaker 3>iron and my ob gave me two weeks to get

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<v Speaker 3>it up. I was taking supplements and they just weren't

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<v Speaker 3>agreeing with me.

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<v Speaker 2>And did you eat?

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<v Speaker 1>I ate a lot of steak.

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<v Speaker 3>So the supplements didn't work. They were making me feel nauseous.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, Okay, I'm gonna get all of

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<v Speaker 3>my iron from food.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was eating.

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<v Speaker 3>Spinach, steak, beef, pork, everything, and yeah, it still went down.

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<v Speaker 3>So this morning I went into the hospital and had

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<v Speaker 3>an iron transfusion. I was completely fine about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So iron transfusion, Yes, what does that look like? Are

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<v Speaker 2>they sticking iron into your veins?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So basically what they do is they put a drip

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<v Speaker 3>into my hand with just salt water because they have

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<v Speaker 3>to get the vein right because this iron, which I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know any of this until this morning, So I

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<v Speaker 3>had a little anxiety attack when they told me this.

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<v Speaker 3>So they put the needle into the hand and then

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<v Speaker 3>they put salty water through your veins to make sure

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually getting into the veins and not going into

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<v Speaker 3>the skin. If this needle goes into the skin, it

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<v Speaker 3>causes permanent skin stating. Permanent so it's like a tattoo.

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<v Speaker 3>You can look it up on Google. I didn't look

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<v Speaker 3>it up at the time, and I was like, how

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<v Speaker 3>permanent is this? Like I'm like, could I get laser

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<v Speaker 3>tattoo removal on it if it's a tattoo? And they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>like you could do that, but it's it's like a tattoo,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like permanent. So I started kind of freaking out.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh my god, not because of the

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<v Speaker 3>iron transition, because I didn't want to have a permanent

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<v Speaker 3>tattoo on my hand. And you know how big I

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<v Speaker 3>am with not having bad faked tan on my hands,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'd always like them my hands to look like

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<v Speaker 3>you would never see me with like orange knuckles or

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<v Speaker 3>like bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I do find that quite ikey, Yeah, that's a.

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<v Speaker 3>Nick an it is it's one of my eggs. Like

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<v Speaker 3>if t is not it and sometimes look as someone

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<v Speaker 3>who is a tanner. It is hard to be one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent all the time. I looking good, But there's

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<v Speaker 3>tricks I used to can do when you used to

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<v Speaker 3>turn these tann every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. No, but I used to do the full body

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<v Speaker 2>loose ones when I had wrestle, so i'd come up tanned.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my exes said, you do that with your knuckles. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>rub the midst of my knuckle was like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't mit tan though, because it can look a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Gloves. She used to like latex gloves. Yeah, yes, never

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<v Speaker 2>to face either.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no goldie beer. Anyway, after I had it down

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<v Speaker 3>this morning, I looked up what it would look like

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<v Speaker 3>if you got the iron staining on your hands, and

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<v Speaker 3>it literally, I could you know. It just looks like

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<v Speaker 3>bad fake tan hands. And I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>that is literally. If I would have seen that before,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have said.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about it. I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>What is the eye? Is it in someone's blood? You

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<v Speaker 2>didn't make me think it was in someone's blood. They

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<v Speaker 2>give you a blood transfusion.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was a blood transfusion, but it's actually not.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have this like dark purple. It does look

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<v Speaker 3>like blood, but it's not. It's like a dark, purply

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<v Speaker 3>red bag of medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they just.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess put it through intravenously, so through the drip

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<v Speaker 3>plus five hundred dollars. I do have private health insurance

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<v Speaker 3>as well, so I don't know what that covered, but

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<v Speaker 3>I had a five hundred dollars excess. And I actually

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<v Speaker 3>so the reason why you get it is because when

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<v Speaker 3>you're pregnant, the baby just takes so much of it sacrifice,

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<v Speaker 3>the sacrifice, it takes all of them. He takes all

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<v Speaker 3>of my good stuff, all of my nutrients. So I've

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<v Speaker 3>just got so low and I'm so exhausted, like so tired,

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<v Speaker 3>and I have so much going on at the moment

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<v Speaker 3>that I just don't have time well hopefully to be

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<v Speaker 3>exhausted back.

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<v Speaker 2>When do they reckon it starts to kick in.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 3>I literally thought I was going to be hop skipping

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<v Speaker 3>and jumping out of there with like the most energy.

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<v Speaker 2>But apparently process it, your body would have to break

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<v Speaker 2>it down.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, some of us aren't that smart. Mat Apparently it

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<v Speaker 3>takes two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you can going straight into your veins that it

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<v Speaker 2>would hit it like, not two weeks, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>like a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>If you jog or anything and you go on the sauna,

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<v Speaker 2>get your blood flowing, would help it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go on the sauna because I'm pregnant, and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't go on the sauna if you're pregnant. Thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never getting pregnant.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like your one true love this song.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you fill in the form that, like in that

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<v Speaker 2>sense where you have to answer the questions? It was

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<v Speaker 2>like something you can't live without. What do you say

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<v Speaker 2>for star? Star sign?

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<v Speaker 1>My star sign?

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<v Speaker 2>Taurist I said, superstar?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you get that?

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<v Speaker 1>The dad jokes are coming in hard and far?

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<v Speaker 2>It was pretty all right? Well Anna, yes, have you

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<v Speaker 2>heard about the IKEA Challenge?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So it's apparently it's a test for relationships. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we like to bring up theories on this podcast. I

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<v Speaker 2>actually saw it in episode of thirty Rock I've been

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<v Speaker 2>watching that I've mentioned. It's a show that Tina Fey wrote.

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<v Speaker 2>She stars co stars alongside Alec Baldwin. Right, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>They've got a show on NBC so it's she's written

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<v Speaker 2>it from her time writing on SNL and it's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like mimic out. They have like a live show

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just like all the drama that comes with it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but she has a partner on there who's actually played

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<v Speaker 2>by we're talking about this before the James Madison, who's

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<v Speaker 2>the main guy on Hairspray. They go to Ikia and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, will our relationship survive a trip to a Kia?

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<v Speaker 2>So apparently if you go to Ikea with partner, have

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<v Speaker 2>you been with Michael? Yes, how'd you go?

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<v Speaker 1>We love it? I love Ikia.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, then you're gonna you're gonna survive the test of time. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>when a relationship goes there, it puts you onder turmoil

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<v Speaker 2>because you can't decide what you want what you get.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all like intense, like you know, you're walking around

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<v Speaker 2>looking at different stuff, like you might realize that you

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<v Speaker 2>like this design or something they like something else, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know how it's just amazed and you can't get

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<v Speaker 2>out anyway and you've got to go through the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're making it sound really anxious, but that's not how

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<v Speaker 1>I view it like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I like literally, if we're going to Ikea, I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Going on a road trip to Ikea. We get there,

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<v Speaker 3>we spend like an hour or so just browsing, looking around,

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<v Speaker 3>having fun. Then I'm heading to the meatball section.

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<v Speaker 2>Meat poles get me every time. I'd love it. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>not get onto the meatballs because I'm starving as it is, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, I'd love to go to Ikea right now, get

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<v Speaker 3>the Nash meatballs Cranberry Source Delicious.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've never been to Ikea with Tammy. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>with X's before.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you have fights?

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<v Speaker 2>I with that far now? We thought a lot. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember an actual fight about anythink we probably did.

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<v Speaker 2>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when you're always fighting, it's hard to really

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<v Speaker 1>pinpoint like.

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<v Speaker 2>What the actual argument was about. Yeah, but then they say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you survive Ikea, say you decide and you go

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<v Speaker 2>through Ikea and you decide what you want the furniture.

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<v Speaker 2>The second test comes when you bring that flat pack home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's where I would have the issues, right the issue?

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<v Speaker 2>But are you a flat packer?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm an air what is it called air tasker

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<v Speaker 3>type of gal and I've only learned that through mistakes

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<v Speaker 3>of trying with Michael to do flat packs.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't have about Jermin argument about is Michael Michael handyman?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, Once upon a time I feel so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Once upon a time I did stay to him, you're

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<v Speaker 3>not that handy, And those were my dying words.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he has improved himself ever since. He's pretty handy.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not a handy man. I never claimed to be,

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<v Speaker 2>and I never will try and prove myself to be one.

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<v Speaker 1>But you do have the air task.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do have the air task. Tammy said to me,

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<v Speaker 2>You're not handy at all, and I said, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fucking not. Like I don't want to be. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>try and reverse psy colleage me. Don't bake me. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not a handy man. I don't want to be. I've

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<v Speaker 2>put together a flat pack one time at one of

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<v Speaker 2>my houses, and I screwed in final thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You got pressed down on it, you go probably pressed

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<v Speaker 2>down on a hard set. I pressed down on carpets,

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<v Speaker 2>so as I pressed down sort of moved so the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time a bedside table would move because it broke

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<v Speaker 2>the thing in there so that one was straight, and

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<v Speaker 2>when I moved out of that house, I'm not in it.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not a handyman, never claimed to be, never

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<v Speaker 2>will be.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what the funniest thing about people trying

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<v Speaker 3>to do a flat pack is when they get the

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<v Speaker 3>instructions and they say two things. The first thing they'll

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<v Speaker 3>say is there's a piece missing, and the second thing

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<v Speaker 3>they'll say is these instructions aren't right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, no, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>You have an extra screw or something at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>and You're like, where does this go? They don't give

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<v Speaker 2>you spares.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't give you ses.

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<v Speaker 2>I once I remember it was with the next and

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<v Speaker 2>we went to IK and came back and I put

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<v Speaker 2>up a photo of her putting together the flat pack,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was watching the wrestling in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>What you let her put it up?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a handyman. I don't claim to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't want to get a task, she wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do it herself. I'm not going to argue with anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to lend a hand.

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<v Speaker 2>I held stuff for I handed her the screwdriver. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't claim to IoT.

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<v Speaker 3>You're watching the wrestling, so I didn't think you were

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<v Speaker 3>handing stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>She asked HI for something, I would give her something

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<v Speaker 2>I got fucking rinsed.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm never looking like doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't. I don't want to do it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't claim to want to do it. I don't admit it.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's it. So if anyone has gone.

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<v Speaker 3>To it, it's so funny, Like there's two types of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's you.

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<v Speaker 3>Someone just would say you're not a handy man, and

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<v Speaker 3>you go, that's exactly right, I'm not and you just

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<v Speaker 3>put zero effort into every try. And then there's Michael

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<v Speaker 3>and I said it once and he's like trying to

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<v Speaker 3>prove himself ever since.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you have you heard of the expression weaponizing incompetency.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard of that expression.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very toxic.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we'll explain it to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Weaponizing incompetency means where it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Say a partner is shit at something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's when a partner or a friend, a housemate,

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<v Speaker 2>someone asks you to do something and you do it terribly,

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<v Speaker 2>so they never ask you to do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've seen stuff that men do this with cooking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just bad at cooking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not you're also doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't weaponizing competition. I think something that would

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<v Speaker 2>be like weaponizing comp tea would be like they asked

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<v Speaker 2>you to make a cup of tea and I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I would make when I lived at home, when I

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<v Speaker 2>was like a teenager, if I was to make someone

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<v Speaker 2>a cup of tea, or when i'd stay at my mum's,

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<v Speaker 2>I would make them bad on purpose for everyone because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to do it. And you're admitting, say,

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<v Speaker 2>I make a terrible cup of tea and also not

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<v Speaker 2>even on purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so mean, not even on.

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<v Speaker 2>Purpose, sometimes with a cup of tea as well, coming

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<v Speaker 2>from a household that drinks a lot of cup of tea.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like judging people's milk like milk rasio, milk ratio.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a thing that you need to do yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that you should say what do you want

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<v Speaker 3>your milk ratio to be?

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<v Speaker 1>Like do you want it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or even better, give them a saucer with milk and

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<v Speaker 2>they can pour it in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's well, I mean, if you want to be bougie,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't believe you just admitted to making people bad

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<v Speaker 3>cups of tea.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so toxic. It's so mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I also do think like how you go like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't cook. I think that is such a cop out.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you're almost thirty. You can put a pan on

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<v Speaker 3>a stove, put oil in salt, a piece of steak.

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<v Speaker 2>I do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well you can care. You can do that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm just saying I'm not going to put together.

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<v Speaker 3>You could put together a few meals by twenty nine

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<v Speaker 3>years of age, yeah, I could.

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<v Speaker 2>I could cook a past I really wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to cook.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So there's a difference between because you said you

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<v Speaker 3>can't cook, there's a difference between I can't cook and

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to cook. I think it's like laziness

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<v Speaker 3>rather than an incomfidence.

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<v Speaker 2>How easy is it to throw just to shit, like

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<v Speaker 2>a food microwavable food in the microwave.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just not fresh, fresh ingredients. Mat you should know.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a steak.

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<v Speaker 1>Fresh ingredients over microwaveable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to ask everyone on our socials if they

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<v Speaker 2>have done that Ikea challenge or they unwillingly did the

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<v Speaker 2>Ikea challenge and they went to Ikea with their partner

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<v Speaker 2>and they realized that that wasn't the one for them.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know the thing is, some things you don't

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<v Speaker 3>actually need to build ika. You can get some plants,

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<v Speaker 3>you can get some cutlery, you can get some plates.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but they might not agree on the plates and

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<v Speaker 2>the patterns that you want. The plants.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, yeah sure. If anything, this Ikea challenge

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<v Speaker 3>has just made me want to go to Ikea even more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd love a meatball.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love some meatballs and mashed potato. Okay, Matt. Today

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<v Speaker 3>we are talking about supporting your friends during hard times.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had a few friends recently that have been going

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<v Speaker 3>through some things. There was a death in a family

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<v Speaker 3>is common, but it's also extremely sad, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend that goes through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and like I think it's it's quite like when

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<v Speaker 3>it's an immediate family member, it's really hard to navigate,

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<v Speaker 3>like what do I do? Like do I send them flowers?

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<v Speaker 3>Or how can I be there to support them? And

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<v Speaker 3>I think, especially at this age, you know, I'm thirty two,

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<v Speaker 3>now you're twenty nine, we don't see our friends as much.

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<v Speaker 3>You obviously live into stay all of these things. And

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<v Speaker 3>we've spoken and done episodes on how in your thirties,

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<v Speaker 3>like you can sometimes not grow apart from your friends,

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<v Speaker 3>but you need to really like make time to see them.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think when there is a situation where friends

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<v Speaker 3>need support, I think it is really important to step

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<v Speaker 3>up and to be there for your friends and to

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<v Speaker 3>be there as a support blanket and to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>show up for them and send them messages and make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that they don't feel alone, especially in this time,

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<v Speaker 3>in this era of our lives that we're in. I've

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<v Speaker 3>also had friends recently who've had miscarriages, which has been

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<v Speaker 3>really ever stating. And it's actually one of my friend's

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<v Speaker 3>weddings this week, and I know that this isn't on

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<v Speaker 3>the same level, but apparently it's going to be raining

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<v Speaker 3>at her wedding, and as someone who's had a wedding

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<v Speaker 3>like that is pretty devastating.

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<v Speaker 2>Week before my wedding, it was going to rain. And

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<v Speaker 2>apparently in old wives tell as you go the night

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<v Speaker 2>before to the venue and you bury sausages, we're all sausages.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff that I've never heard that before.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently did you do that? No, we didn't. In the end,

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<v Speaker 2>we can forget. When we were at the shops, but

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<v Speaker 2>Tammy was talking about doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Can go a snaging bread?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think you're making me hungry by talking

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<v Speaker 1>about food so much.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, look, when it comes to supporting your friends,

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<v Speaker 3>there's obviously different degrees of people needing support. Like you

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<v Speaker 3>know a friend who is dealing with a boss that's

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<v Speaker 3>really difficult, you know, whatever the scenario it might be.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's good to support your friends. So we

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<v Speaker 3>have a list of things that you guys can do

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<v Speaker 3>when friends are going through hard times, whether that be

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<v Speaker 3>a death, whether that be something that maybe to you

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<v Speaker 3>isn't a big deal but to them is.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Okay. So the first one is be there for

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<v Speaker 2>them emotionally, so actively listen to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So a study of fourteen hundred participants actually found that

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<v Speaker 3>social support was found to reduce the risk of depression

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<v Speaker 3>by fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>So, particularly friends providing that type of emotional support. So

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's some big numbers there.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine not leaning on a friend for emotional support and

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<v Speaker 2>social support when you're going through a tough time.

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<v Speaker 1>That it just it makes your life so much easier,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just.

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<v Speaker 2>Really feeling isolated and you couldn't talk to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think sometimes as well, people.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it in their heads that they don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>burden other people with their problems, or they want to

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<v Speaker 3>keep it in because they don't want people to know,

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<v Speaker 3>because sometimes people want to look like they have a

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<v Speaker 3>picture of perfect life and they don't want to show

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<v Speaker 3>any level of weakness.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really do think there's power. There's power in

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<v Speaker 1>doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think talking out things that are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>going over and over in your head is really powerful

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<v Speaker 3>and it can kind of help you collate those thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>and understand what you're actually thinking and how you're actually feeling,

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<v Speaker 3>and getting some advice as well and taking that on board.

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<v Speaker 2>What about offering practical help anna, so like giving them

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<v Speaker 2>solutions to the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think just being proactive as a friend, so,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sending people messages saying let me know if

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<v Speaker 3>you need anything, always hear if you need to talk,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm only a phone call away, things like that. So

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<v Speaker 3>people do feel like they aren't alone, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard that women don't sometimes when they come to

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<v Speaker 2>like their partners or their boyfriends or their like their

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<v Speaker 2>husbands with problems, they don't want a solution where men

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<v Speaker 2>are real solution base, they just want to vent and

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<v Speaker 2>be heard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally, I think. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that is where a lot of relationship problems

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<v Speaker 3>can sometimes come from because men in some ways not you.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're not a handy man in different ways.

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<v Speaker 3>An emotional you want to be in an emotional handy

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<v Speaker 3>man you want to physical.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to fix the problem. And I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>guilty of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if someone comes to me with a problem, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>let me fix it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I think you should do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think as well, when you are offering that support,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's important to be consistent with your support,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, if something bad happens in someone's life,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just a case of I'll send them a

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<v Speaker 3>message and now like hands up, I've done my job,

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<v Speaker 3>like wipe my hands of them. I think showing up

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<v Speaker 3>with that consistency long term support, realizing that when bad

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<v Speaker 3>things happen in your friends or found lives that you

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<v Speaker 3>know time heals all, but you need to really show

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<v Speaker 3>up for them. For example, my friend who's going through

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<v Speaker 3>a tough time this morning, I just enter it almost

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<v Speaker 3>like a good morning message. But I was just like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>thinking of you. Give me a call if you need anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you. You know, like, just like one of

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<v Speaker 3>those messages so that people it's nice, so that people

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<v Speaker 3>know that you're thinking of them.

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<v Speaker 2>It goes a long way as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It does go a long way, and it's nice to

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<v Speaker 3>receive those messages like starting your day and if something

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<v Speaker 3>bad's happened, you know that feeling when you wake up,

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<v Speaker 3>your eyes open and you get that sinking feeling in

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<v Speaker 3>your gut.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you look at.

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<v Speaker 3>Your phone and you have a nice message from your

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<v Speaker 3>friend who's thinking about you, you're like, ah, those.

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<v Speaker 2>When you go through stuff and there's like a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of seconds when you first wake up and you've forgotten

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Yeah, and then it kicks in it and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like the fuck the fuck. Also, respect their boundaries

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<v Speaker 2>and timing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think everyone heals and wants to talk and

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<v Speaker 3>communicate at their own pace. And I think you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>like you need to really read the room and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>know your friends and don't keep hounding them. Yeah, don't overstep,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I think like one message a day is good.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to message them throughout the day and

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<v Speaker 1>if they've.

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<v Speaker 2>Not replied, I mean you're not rocking up to their

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<v Speaker 2>house with flowers and that they don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you could.

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<v Speaker 3>You could just leave them at the door, or like

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<v Speaker 3>make them a meal. A lot of people, because I'm pregnant,

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<v Speaker 3>they've been saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking about had a smoothie today.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people have been saying to me, like

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<v Speaker 3>when you first have the baby, A lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>want to come over and visit the house, and people say,

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<v Speaker 3>can I do anything for you? And just yes, say

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<v Speaker 3>if that's it, like can cook me something and just

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<v Speaker 3>drop it off, but like they don't have to come in,

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<v Speaker 3>They'll just leave it at the door.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, that sounds bliss, It sounds lovely.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone could drop something off now, who eats?

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<v Speaker 1>Could I'm surprised you've not ordered something at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Complaining NonStop, encourage them to seek professional help. We're advocates

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast of therapy. I think there's nothing wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with going to therapy. So I feel like sometimes yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>seeking your friend's help or your family's advice, you're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting the professional advice, and it is as well one sided,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, someone's coming. And I think as well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think with friends in that and as well, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's very what's the word biased towards you and the thing,

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<v Speaker 2>whereas if like you speak to someone a therapist, it

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<v Speaker 2>can be mutual when they can give you the advice

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<v Speaker 2>that you need to get over something that's hurting you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I think as well, like no one's ever

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<v Speaker 3>expecting to go through a bad time or through something

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<v Speaker 3>bad to happen. And I think it's just a good

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<v Speaker 3>reminder as a friend to tell your friends, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 3>you seem to be really struggling, and I know this

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<v Speaker 3>really good therapist. Apparently they're you know, super helpful or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever way you want to position it, but just reminding

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<v Speaker 3>people that support is available, and even if they don't

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<v Speaker 3>take it immediately, it's just planting that little seed in

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<v Speaker 3>their head to know there is more that I can do.

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<v Speaker 3>There's healthcare professionals who I can see who can help

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<v Speaker 3>me feel better if I can't get there myself, and

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<v Speaker 3>using that support. I will also say, when you are

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<v Speaker 3>talking with your friends and you know they are going

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<v Speaker 3>through a tough time, listening is so important, but also

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<v Speaker 3>validating their feelings and letting them know, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay to feel like this, It's normal to feel like.

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<v Speaker 2>This if I'm been working on that in my relationship

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<v Speaker 2>as well, like actually validating the other person, so saying

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<v Speaker 2>I understand what you're saying, I hear you. It's good.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes you feel when when someone talks to you

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<v Speaker 2>like that. It makes you feel heard and understood, and

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<v Speaker 2>it can soothe pain.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was actually a two thousand and four study

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<v Speaker 3>on emotional support done that actually showed emotional validation from

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<v Speaker 3>a trusted friend was actually linked to four forty percent

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<v Speaker 3>higher levels of positive emotions. So all of these things

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<v Speaker 3>are really making a pretty big difference in.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's life who is going through a tough time.

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<v Speaker 2>That Another one is to help them maintain social connections.

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<v Speaker 2>So like when someone gets depressed, it's quite easy for

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<v Speaker 2>them to stay in home, eat shit, watch TV, and

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<v Speaker 2>just like not really get out of the house and

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<v Speaker 2>do much. So I feel like helping your friend get

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<v Speaker 2>out of the house, do stuff. Maybe take them for

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<v Speaker 2>a mental health walk, take them to I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>a restaurant to eat, just get out of the house,

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<v Speaker 2>go do stuff that will bring enjoyment to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think, look, when we are going through

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<v Speaker 3>a tough time, don't get me wrong, all you want

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<v Speaker 3>to do is not talk to anyone. Sometimes get some

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<v Speaker 3>moober eats. You don't want to do anything, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to cook, and you just want to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like sit there and feel your feelings. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>it is important to really feel those feelings, to have

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<v Speaker 3>a good cry if you need to. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>when we're thinking about health and improving your health, actually

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<v Speaker 3>eating cleaner and getting outside even if it's for a

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<v Speaker 3>ten minute walk or just seeing someone who can give

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<v Speaker 3>you a hug, all of those things help and improve

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<v Speaker 3>health outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw this thing and it was like how long

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<v Speaker 2>you walk for what it does to your body? I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was like even like fifteen minutes releases a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of like serotonin and dopin or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. I think I saved it on Instagram after

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<v Speaker 2>find or screenshot it, and it was good like every

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<v Speaker 2>and then like you get to like forty five minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>it burns like this much fat and it does like

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<v Speaker 2>all it was just going through all the stuff it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Walks are so good. People say, like, oh, going on

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<v Speaker 2>walks doesn't do much. It does.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh absolutely, and it's good to kind of. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you see the world in a different way

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<v Speaker 3>when you're walking through a street rather than driving through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you notice things, don't you think, Like you're like

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<v Speaker 3>looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I try not to take my phone with me sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>but then when you take your phone, you don't have music,

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<v Speaker 2>So I try not to be on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Mental health walks, yeah, do you have mental health walks?

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<v Speaker 2>Love that, Yeah, just to clear the brain. It's nice

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<v Speaker 2>be it one with nature.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that looking at nature actually can reduce anxiety

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<v Speaker 3>and depression, like looking at moving nature. So I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>outside of the studio right now and I can see

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<v Speaker 3>a moving tree and I'm seeing the leaves move in

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<v Speaker 3>the wind, and it's actually quite calming.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever grounded yourself? Like taking off?

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<v Speaker 1>I love grounding myself. How good is that?

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<v Speaker 2>I went out of my office one time, I went

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<v Speaker 2>to the park and took my shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, just feed on the grass, feet in the dirt,

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<v Speaker 1>to feet in the sand is my go to.

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<v Speaker 3>I live close to a beach, so I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>feet in the sand, feet in the ocean, bliss. I

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<v Speaker 3>think as a friend, when you are giving advice, no

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<v Speaker 3>matter how big or small someone's problem feels to you,

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<v Speaker 3>it is important to never minimize someone's struggles. So just

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<v Speaker 3>to be mindful not comparing someone's struggles to someone else's

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<v Speaker 3>or to yours. I think we all have this habit

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<v Speaker 3>of if someone goes, oh, this really bad thing happened

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<v Speaker 3>to me, and then you go, oh, well this happened

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<v Speaker 3>to me too, and it's almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this validating their feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And I think sometimes it's good even if

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<v Speaker 3>you have something that you want to say to actually

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<v Speaker 3>just go this isn't about me. They're talking about something

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<v Speaker 3>that's really difficult in their life right now and actually

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<v Speaker 3>just taking it in and acknowledging that's it, holding space,

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledging it and making them feel like you've really listened

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<v Speaker 3>to their problem and not doing the whole comparison thing

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<v Speaker 3>of like, well I'm going through this so yeah you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that we're going is not comparing

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<v Speaker 2>anything like well, when this happened or I've got this

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<v Speaker 2>going on. Just hold space for them, listen to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and validate.

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<v Speaker 3>Them, and holding emotional support, like you said, is amazing

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<v Speaker 3>and comforting you can also do it through humor. And

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<v Speaker 3>I say this lightly because I think definitely choosing your

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<v Speaker 3>moments on the humor is important. But I think if

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<v Speaker 3>someone's going through a really tough time, you don't always

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<v Speaker 3>want to be serious twenty four to seven. And I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if someone's had a couple of weeks to

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<v Speaker 3>kind of feel their feelings and feel their emotions, and

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<v Speaker 3>I know that you love to crack a joke or

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm sad, sometimes I feel like you will crack

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<v Speaker 3>a joke the room. Yeah, Like we say this with caution, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>like please read the room.

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<v Speaker 2>If passed away or something, don't just crack a joke

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<v Speaker 2>out straight away. Read the room.

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<v Speaker 1>Read the room.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't definitely don't crack a joke about anyone who's

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<v Speaker 3>passed away. I'm saying more like, you know, bring a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of humor into the conversation, make them laugh if

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<v Speaker 3>that is your type of personality, and if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>feel comfortable with it, just leave it to the life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes is the best medicine.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally, I totally agree with that. One of my friends,

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<v Speaker 3>Maddie she I don't know what it is about like

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<v Speaker 3>our friendship, but we just get into these laughing fits

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<v Speaker 3>together and it's almost like it's it's not even sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>about the topic, but I hear her hysterically laughing, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it makes me hysterically them so good, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you just it is laughing is truly the best medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>Last, but not least, stay patient and allow space for

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<v Speaker 2>them to heal. Yeah, which is literally wrapping up everything

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<v Speaker 2>we've just said.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, Just I think being a consistent friend, being patient,

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<v Speaker 3>showing support through their tough times, you know, is the

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<v Speaker 3>best way to hold space for healing.

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<v Speaker 2>And remember bad times don't last. Your friend will feel better.

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<v Speaker 3>Soon and time heals or wounds, although some wounds are

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<v Speaker 3>deeper than others.

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<v Speaker 1>So the time will be longer and will be longer.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, Matt, I'm really glad we did this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is something that's worth just putting to

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<v Speaker 3>the front of the brain. And it's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>these are all little tools that you can use in

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<v Speaker 3>your daily life. Whether it doesn't even need to be

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<v Speaker 3>a friend. It can just be like a work colleague

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<v Speaker 3>who's going through a tough time, someone in.

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<v Speaker 1>Your family, or a friend partner, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's just good to refresh on, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>things that you can do to really make a difference

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<v Speaker 3>in someone you care about life.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was very terrible back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maturing and growing up has gotten me a

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<v Speaker 2>lot better at that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I realized back in the day I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>held space for mates and that, so now yeah, I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I can, and I think as well, like when

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<v Speaker 3>you feel like someone holds space for you as well,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like this reciprocal friendship where you can kind of

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<v Speaker 3>give and take and it's not just take, take take

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, guys, until next time, Bye bye your friends.