WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 5 August 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:00.680 Lately. 0:00:01.440 --> 0:00:05.080 General, welcome the late Blades. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:07.720 Well, good evening. 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.960 I'm James Macpherson with Liz stra and Caleb Bond. How 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:13.240 would you feel if you arrived home to find a 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.320 completely different family in your swimming pool? Will bring you 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.400 that strange story a little later. Plus, when we look 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:23.440 at the papers, Queensland Premier Stephen Miles promising if Queensland 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:26.920 has re elect him the government will open petrol stations 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.480 right across the state, and Anthony Albanezi blaming the Greens 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.680 for aggravating the domestic terror threat. We'll get to all 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.920 of that soon, but let's start in America. Donald Trump 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.920 doesn't call her crazy Nancy for no good reason. Former 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.960 Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi told CBS Sunday Morning 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:49.280 Show that Joe Biden had done such a great job 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.000 as president over the past four years he should be 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:56.640 memorialized alongside other greats like George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.720 This was an idea that greatly amused even the Democrat 0:00:59.760 --> 0:01:02.000 friend Le TV host have a look. 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.440 Such a consequential president of the United States, a Mount 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:10.240 Rushmore kind of president of the United States, wants to 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.600 know what comes next that he belongs up there on 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:14.759 Mount Rushmore. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:17.280 Lincoln and Joe Biden. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:20.920 Well, you got Teddy Roosevelt up there, and he's wonderful. 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:23.840 I don't say take him down, but you can add Biden. 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:27.240 And now, ladies and gentlemen, is why you should not 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:28.920 drink vodka for breakfast. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:30.560 But it kind of makes sense, doesn't it. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.840 I mean, the Democrats pushed him off the cliff, and 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.400 now they want to engrave him on the cliff. 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:36.800 But what if they actually did it? 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.080 How would you encapsulate all that it is to be 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.600 Joe Biden? How would you memorialize him so that future 0:01:43.600 --> 0:01:46.000 generations he didn't know much about him, could just glance 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.120 up at the rock face and immediately understand the kind 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.080 of man that he was. Well, an artist has come 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:53.320 up with this idea. 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:54.000 Take a look. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:56.840 You can see there Joe Biden on the far left, 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:59.160 his head turned so that he can get a good 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.800 sniff of George Washington's heir, Liza Reckon. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:03.480 That would work. 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.240 I like that, it's an accurate depiction. I really like that. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.280 That really is. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.399 Art depicting life, you know, and vice versa. But seriously, 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.120 I would have loved the interviewer to then ask Pelosi, 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:18.960 can you show us a list of accomplishments that you 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:23.079 think I'm deserving of such an honor to be up 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:28.880 there with two of our founding fathers, one guy Abraham Lincoln. 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:31.360 Best known as a martyr. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:36.480 Abolish slavery, incredible man all round. And she is like, well, 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.040 you know you've got Roosevelt, so why shouldn't everyone be 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:44.080 up there? Basically, look, nobody knows how Teddy Roosevelt made it. Okay, 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:45.680 we're all confused, but he did. 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.440 And the rock face looks great as it is, please 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:49.560 don't touch it. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.680 But if you were to pull out a list of 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.960 accomplishments of this Biden presidency, you'd be like, well, there's 0:02:56.040 --> 0:03:00.440 the ten million plus illegal immigrants, that's something. There's the 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.400 disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:04.560 That's something. 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:09.440 There's record high inflation and interest rates much like here 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:10.160 in Australia. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.880 They're suffering big time in America. And the list goes on. 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:18.119 There is no American alive, even even the most devout 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:22.519 Democrats who would seriously think we should start chiseling away 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:27.240 at Mount Rushmore to immortalize the Biden presidency forever. 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.400 It's just amazing isn't it like the dude has barely 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.760 lasted his four year term. He's not allowed to run 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:38.200 again because his brain is totally gone. And this is 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.480 the guy that Nancy Pelosi reckons should be added to 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.680 Mount Rushville. He's done nothing to deserve it. I mean, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.640 and she just completely looked over Bill Clinton, a great 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:54.680 of her party. You know, Bill, but at least Bill's 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:55.400 got his facts. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:57.320 I did have some relation. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.840 Well, he go well with the Joe Biden up there 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:03.800 one doing the sniffing, and well, we don't know what's 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:05.800 going on on the lower half of Bill Clinton on 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.840 what about Ronald Reagan? I mean, there are so many 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.920 other former presidents you would put up there, how pretinuous 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.240 the link may be. Before you put Joe Biden up 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:21.039 the hive and say Donald Trump just copped a bullet 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.479 to the head and he's still standing. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:24.360 He should be on. 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.720 Mount Rushmore before Joe Biden dreckon. 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.760 Nancy Pelosi has accidentally let it slip how they persuaded 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.440 Joe Biden to actually will contest. 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:33.840 Will gitch you. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.320 We'll get your rush for Joe. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:37.320 Don't worry about it. 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.359 And the only reason the Biden's a bit pissed off 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.320 about that dealer is because Jill wanted to be up 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:42.440 there as well, and I. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:45.040 Can't believe that she's not. But I mean, how's the 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:45.720 gas lighting. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.920 I mean, we've been told that Kamala Harris is suddenly 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:50.880 this amazing leader who's just incredible, So. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:52.559 That sort of being gas lit on that front. 0:04:52.920 --> 0:04:54.960 But now we've been gas lit that Joe Biden is 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:57.119 one of the great figures of history. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:58.440 That's like Olympic level. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.520 It is, it is where he belong on Mount Rushmore. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.880 But you can't go past the polls in America for 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.000 gas lighting. At the moment, of course, there was just 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.080 a matter of time. 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:09.400 Now that Kamala is. 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:13.240 The best thing since slice spread, despite being wildly unpopular 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:18.080 previous in her own lay party and as the most 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.599 unpopular VP in American history. 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.480 No, no, Now, the polls would have you believe that 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:28.920 she is neck and neck with Trump. Believe it or not. 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.560 Yes, this latest poll to come out is exactly asking 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.760 you to believe that she is. It's fifty to fifty guys, 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:37.960 it's down to the wire. 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.480 We don't know who's going to get it. She's just 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.040 that popular all of a sudden. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.520 Now The Trump campaign has come out and called this 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:50.920 a furfee. Senior campaign advisor Brian Hughes has said, the 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:55.640 fake news media continue to help dangerously liberal Kamala hide 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.520 her record of economic failure and soft on crime policies, 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.560 as this analysis shows, they'll even put a finger on 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.520 the scale of polling to inflate. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:06.960 Results for her. 0:06:07.080 --> 0:06:10.760 Now, this wasn't dissimilar to a poll that came out 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.400 just last week. It was a Reuter's ipsauce pole that 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.000 also had her. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.560 So close to Trump. Everyone was like, shock pole, shop pole. 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:22.000 I'm like, it's really not a shock poll once the 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:26.560 media machine gets behind a candidate, and that poll showed 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.719 once you scratch beneath the surface. They had, of course 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.240 achieved this by over sampling Democrats. So in that poll 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:37.479 they'd sampled four hundred and twenty six Dems versus three 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.200 hundred and seventy six Republicans and three hundred and forty 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:46.360 one Independence. So you can already see that slider inequality 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:47.200 there that they're. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.840 Relying on to bump up a pole that is like 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.440 shop pole. Their neck and neck. 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.600 You guys won't believe what's happening, But I don't believe 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.920 how this is doing the Kamala campaign any favors. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.760 They don't have mandatory voting over there. 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:07.280 So if you're telling Democrat minded people, actually, she's doing really. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.600 Well, she's kind of got this in the bag, they 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.440 may not even venture out to the polls. 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:11.760 Yeah. 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.200 I don't see what is to be gained in inflating 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.360 any polls. And I don't see what's to be gained 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.320 for the Trump campaign to complain about the roles even 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:23.480 if they are inflated. And as you know, we often 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.800 hear leaders in this country say, you know, there's only 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.720 one pole that matters, and that's the one on voting day. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.920 And it's a bit cliche, but it is the reality. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:33.280 Right. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:36.040 They're all the other polls that come, they don't matter. 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.160 The only pole that matters is the one on election day. 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.840 So you know, if they're diddling polls, I don't know 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.000 if they're trying to get into this manifesting business, which is. 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.080 You know, some sort of mental trick. Do you remember 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.360 that book The Secret? And I think it then turned it. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:53.880 Into a TV and all about how you imagine things 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:56.640 and then they come true. And people would tell stories 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.360 about how much when they go to the shopping center. 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.600 They imagine that there's going to be a car park 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.200 three spots up from the front door, and then magically 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.120 there's a car part there. I don't know whether they're thinking, Gee, 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.200 if we just make the polls look like Carmala is 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.280 going to win, then it means Camala is going to win. 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.680 I'm sorry. The world just doesn't work. 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:15.360 Like that, so I can't see what there is to 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.360 gain from it. And we know that even if you 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.600 are trying to manifest these things into being. Let's just 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.040 go back to twenty nineteen here in this country, where 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.400 of course News poll, all the other polls, all the 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:29.520 polls said that it was just going to be a 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:34.440 walk over Labor victory and sports bet I remember at 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:37.839 the time paid out everyone who had a bet on 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:41.599 Labor a week before the election because they thought it 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:42.960 was just done and dusted. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:43.840 There was no way the. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.120 Coalition was going to win, and then of course it 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.640 went very differently on election night. Now, polling methodology has 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.200 been changed significantly in Australia since then, and use poll 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.000 in particular, if you look at the subsequent elections, has 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.480 been very close to the mark. But if you're diddling it, 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.720 who fought what there's there's nothing to be gained at. 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:01.959 Well. 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.080 I wonder if they've got two stages to this, right, 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:05.959 and they're still in the first stage where they're trying 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:09.480 to convince everybody that Kamala Harris is a legitimate candidate 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.800 and their right to put her there. Because we all 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.360 laughed at we thought it was a great joke that 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.559 they might actually go with Kamala Harris. They've done that, 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:19.079 and now they're trying to convince us no, no, she's legitimate. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.439 The whole country believes in her. Look how well she's 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.679 doing in the polls. And then what they should do 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.040 is they should as they get closer to the election, 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:28.000 then start to warn Trump's going to win this if 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:31.199 you don't get out and vote and make themselves the underdog. 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:35.280 Have listened to former Obama advisor David Axelrod. I love 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.880 that surname, advising that Trump is the man in pole 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.960 position and it's his election to lose. Clearly, he wants 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.880 the Democrats to be underdogs because that will motivate people 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:45.880 to get out and vote. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.880 There is absolutely Trump's raised to lose. Right now. He 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:54.280 is ahead, and he is ahead most of the battleground states. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.079 They're close, they could be won by either candidate, but 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.480 there is a lot to be determined the next ninety 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.880 whatever it there is ninety six or whatever it is left. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.640 So the Dems want to be the underdog, and Trump 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.959 should want to be the underdog as well. Also, I 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.679 don't think it helps Trump focusing on things. 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:14.959 Like fake poles. 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.240 You're rigging the poles, focus on his record for four. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.320 Years as president, and focus on Kamala Harris's non existent 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:25.480 record as vice president. And it doesn't help Trump to 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.960 be talking about conspiracy theories and they're rigging the poles. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.080 Even if they are doing that, I think people are 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.040 over all that kind of stuff. Talk about what you're 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.760 going to do as president as compared to Kamala Harris, 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.920 and make yourself the underdog so that people are motivated 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:41.920 to get out and vote. 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:45.520 If I was on the Trump campaign, I'd just be like, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.319 do not be telling people that these poles are in 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:52.800 any way tamped mind, because if they believe that she 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.319 could actually beat us, they are going to campaign like 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.640 never before, they are going to donate like never before. 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:03.439 They are going to put fire under our feet, and 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:05.920 we need that boost let's have it. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:10.439 Let's have it, like you're really energizing the Trump base, 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:14.959 which also begs the question why Kamala's people would want this, 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.120 especially at this stage. I mean, it's very early on 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:19.360 in the honeymoon stage. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:21.320 She will get a boost after. 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:25.200 The DNC once she officially becomes nominee at the end 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.400 of their National Conference, which is coming up this month. 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.680 Her honeymoon period is this is just the early stages. 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:34.480 It's only going to get better for her as the 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.719 Kamala hysteria, the good kind of hysteria. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:40.840 Really continues to build her up, build her up more. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.839 Trump can weaponize that instead of saying, oh, it's fake. 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.079 Just roll with it. It's all true. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.160 So we need you guys, We need you guys to 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.160 get out there and volte, we need you guys. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:51.920 To donate, etc. 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:52.480 Etc. 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.839 I don't understand why they're now focusing on pointing out 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.120 the fact that they're. 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:00.840 Being and I don't think the holing at this point 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.480 in time is that unbelievable either. I mean, you know, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.600 everything these days get sort of broken down into an acronym. Right, 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.920 I'm gonna call it ABB The phenomenon is anyone but 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:13.920 Biden right, and so Dems, even though it's Kamala Harris, 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.960 just like it's not Joe Biden. Anything is better than 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.400 Joe Biden. And that's why they've had such a surge 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:25.640 of donations after Kamala replaced him as the presumptive candidate, 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.679 because it's like, Okay, at least we've got someone here who, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.760 you know, even though the words they drink together a 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:31.800 bit ordinary. 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.280 They can actually they can actually get a sentence. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.160 Out without like freezing on stage. It doesn't make a 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:40.959 great deal of sense, but she doesn't freeze on stage, 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.280 and so she has that sort of momentum by not 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.920 being Biden behind her that, as Liz just said, we'll 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:48.320 pick up again after the DNC. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:49.560 The question is. 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.760 Whether or not she can sustain that through until November. 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.880 And much like in politics, you know, you rely on 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.240 the polling, the big poll being the one that comes 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:59.960 through on election day. 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.600 Here in the media, we rely on ratings. 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.600 You don't go to the ballot box to choose us, 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.199 but you turn on your teley or you turn on 0:13:06.280 --> 0:13:08.760 your radio, or you go to a website to choose 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.439 the stuff that you want to consume. And you haven't 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.920 been consuming the ABC as much as you used to. 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:18.080 We certainly know that from their most recent annual report, 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.240 which said that people going to their websites and apps 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.800 has been down twenty three percent. So the AABC has 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.959 been scratching its head, go ge, what can we do 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:28.839 about this? We've got to get more people back to 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:33.000 the ABC. We know their ratings on radio have been 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:37.520 in free fall, so they've gone on an advertising offensive 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:40.920 and the latest numbers that have been released under FOI, 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.959 this was an FOI request from the Institute of Public 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.800 Affairs that was published in The Australian Today, shows that 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.000 there's been a thirty three percent increase in the spending 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:56.160 at the ABC's Advertising, Promotions and Audience Research department in 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.640 the past twelve months. It's gone up to twenty one 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:03.880 point four to one million dollars. Twelve point five two 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.840 million dollars. Of that is their advertising spend, which has 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:13.439 gone up by fifty one percent. The advertising spend has 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:18.440 basically doubled, which is pretty incredible, even though the ads 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:23.200 aren't working. Of course, the IBA's Deputy Executive Director, Daniel Wilde, 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.760 who commissioned this FOI request, He said the ABC is 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:30.440 no longer an institution of cultural importance in Australia as 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.200 it once was. The ABC fails to represent the diverse 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.880 views of the community. Despite receiving billions in taxpayer funds 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:39.760 each year. Australians have little faith in the independence and 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:43.760 integrity of the taxpayer funded broadcaster. Spending millions of taxpayer 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.760 dollars to promote itself will not change this. And of 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.560 course he is right. And I've wondered quite a few 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:53.720 times seeing advertisements for the ABC. Why does the ABC 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.600 need to be advertised at all? I mean, we know 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:00.720 that the ABC exists, we know that we fund it. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.960 I don't think there's an Australian alive who isn't aware 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:07.400 of the existence of the ABC. They know exactly how 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.440 to engage with the ABC. They know that all of 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:15.720 the ABC's content is free, whether it be on radio, television, abciview. 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.560 You know, all their products are entirely free, so they 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.680 can find them any which way they like. But they 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.880 want to enter the same market as the rest of us. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:28.600 They want to compete with commercial media, so they take 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.680 out advertisements, which in some way is good for us 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.400 because they pay us to run their ads. For some 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:38.040 odd reason, I've seen ads for the ABC on Fox Footy. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:39.800 I mean, I don't know what the ABC is doing 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.680 advertising on Fox Footy, but if you want to reappropriate 0:15:42.800 --> 0:15:45.840 some of the taxpayer money to come to our company 0:15:45.920 --> 0:15:47.600 news corps, then go for your life. 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:49.880 But I don't know why they have to advertise in 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:50.520 the first place. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.320 And I remember what nearly ten years ago or about 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.560 ten years ago, Sharing Markson of this network, who was 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.880 then at The Australian as their media editor, was reporting 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:04.120 on the fact that the ABC was buying up Google 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.920 ad space so that if you would search for a 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:09.680 news story and you know, obviously this wasn't a story 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:11.920 at the time, but let's say you looked up Donald 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:17.320 Trump assassination. They were essentially paying Google to prioritize ABC 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:22.040 news stories above those of other media organizations. The rest 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:25.400 of us have to compete to earn a dollar out 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:30.040 of advertising. The ABC, meanwhile, which gets money no questions 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.720 asked from the federal government, is paying for advertising space 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.400 to squeeze out commercial competitors. 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:37.840 It's not in their remit. 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:40.200 The funniest thing about this story is it proves the 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:45.680 more the ABC advertise themselves to Australians, the less Australians 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.200 are inclined to watch. 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.560 The more we know, the more we are likely to 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:50.320 turn off. 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.080 I mean, they don't need to spend what was it, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.960 twenty one point four million dollars on advertising, promotion and 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.040 audience research. I mean we could tell them for free 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.560 people will watch if they just provided balance. And as 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.520 for audience research, seven point five million was spent on that. 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.760 You've got to wonder where they did the audience research. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:11.920 I'm thinking new Town, South Yarra, maybe Highgate Hill in Brisbane. 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.480 Judging by what they produce, if that's the result of 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.920 the audience research, clearly they're not getting a very good overview. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:23.080 And maybe if they didn't use that slogan trusted news 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:27.240 and Information for their advertising campaign, it might go a 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:27.800 little better. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:29.800 People tend to think, yeah, I'm not so sure. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.720 Honestly, the old adage of marketing, anyone who's in it 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.720 knows it. If your product's that good, you don't have 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:40.159 to sell it that hard ABC And the fact that 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:43.720 you guys are free and most other people aren't that 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:48.040 already gives you the biggest advantage in any market. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.520 It's all yours, and they're just pissing it up a 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.040 wall because go Boke go broke. 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.600 That is exactly what has happened at the ABC, and 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.040 the fact that they've never been spending more on this 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:05.240 and their ratings have never been that low comparatively when 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:09.159 you compare the two says everything, I would love to 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:11.280 see this is never going to happen, but a girl 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:11.800 can dream. 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:15.840 I would love to see the ABC go subscriber only. 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:19.200 Even if it wasn't expensive, say it was, say it 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.840 was five bucks a month. I would love to see 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.800 how many people were actually willing to put their hands 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.880 in their pockets for the kind of content these guys 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.800 put out. That that would answer a lot of questions, 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:37.760 even for the ABC, because it's like, well, we're advertising, 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.560 We're spending millions of dollars on this to get eyes 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:41.440 on our product. 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:43.000 It's not working. 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:47.120 If we charged people for it, we'd see how many 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.600 people even thought it was worth anything. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.639 They're getting it for free and they don't want it, 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:52.919 or the very least, you. 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:55.040 Could hive of parts of the ABS. I don't think 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.920 you could take the whole ABC to a subscriber only model, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.600 because then you would be, you know, telling people out 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.280 in the regions that they essentially have to free news. 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:08.800 And also the classical music as I offer. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.560 Made classic AFM. I refuse to call it ABC classic. 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:13.000 It's ClassicFM still in March. 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:15.440 And the cricket is and the cricket cricket on the radio. 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.280 They're the good bits of the ABC. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.480 If we keep going, we'll come up with justification for 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:20.800 the way it should not be. 0:19:22.520 --> 0:19:26.119 This is true, but the rural and regional stuff is 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:30.560 traditionally what the ABC has done best and has done 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.520 so well. But because what you have seen over the 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:37.800 last decade fifteen years is that they've been taking jobs 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:42.239 out of the regions and centralizing them in ultimo at 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:45.879 its headquarters in Sydney, and they've made some attempt now 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.200 to to move some of their programming out to Paramata 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.359 because that will really show those hoity toity people at 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.639 the ABC or you have to mix among the real people. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:19:56.960 Now. 0:19:57.359 --> 0:20:00.440 I don't know what difference it's made moving their broadcast 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.040 studios out to Paramatta instead of Altamo. 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.160 But again it was just like, oh, well, we're trying 0:20:06.200 --> 0:20:07.240 to look like we're doing something. 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.040 If we're going to try and look like you're doing something, 0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:12.440 how about you don't cut journalists in the regions and 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.080 you don't cut rural journalists. In fact, cut jobs in 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.280 the city and send those journals out of the regions, 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:21.960 send them out to rural towns, have them reporting on 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.280 the ground, doing stuff that no one else is doing. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:26.119 That's what we want to do. 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:32.720 Rushville National Broadcaster would do no, but they're severely confused. 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.040 For all the money they're spending on research. 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:36.560 They got some free advice and some pretty good advice 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:40.639 actually from their chair, Kim Williams. He addressed Radio National 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:45.000 staff last month. A lincked recording was made available to 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:49.080 the media, and apparently he's told them that they should 0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.359 start improving the service by actually reporting news on their 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:57.640 news sites rather than soft edge of lifestyle stories. 0:20:57.960 --> 0:20:58.159 I know. 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.960 By the way I like this about Williams is we've 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.720 got a chair who's actually chairing and getting involved. 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.879 We know he's read their charter. 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.520 That's very impressive for an ABC check listened to what 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:10.920 he said. 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:11.800 He gave some good advice. 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:13.600 He said, and I quote, I think people have in 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:17.760 moments of public torment, crisis, division, challenges to leadership. Are 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:21.040 right to be able to access it from us reliably 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.080 and immediately, not to suddenly see a lifestyle story being 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:27.680 number one or two or three on their data platforms. 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.720 He told staff during that meeting that he'd checked that 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.639 day to see what were the number one stories they 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:37.400 were promoting on their website and apps, and he told 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.480 the journalists there was not a single state political story, 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:43.320 not a single story on Ukraine, on Gaza, or on 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.920 the French election that was happening at the time, but 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:46.320 there are. 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.879 A lot of sort of soft lifestyle stories. 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.639 Now Radio National has an audience share of just one 0:21:51.720 --> 0:21:55.159 point five percent in Sydney and one point six percent 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.359 in Melbourne, so maybe you could get people reading your 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.040 news and listening to it if you reported it. And 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:02.560 then he went on to say this, which I thought 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.280 was interesting. When you consider the ABC get just over 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:07.840 a billion dollars of taxpayer money, you'd think they could 0:22:07.960 --> 0:22:10.960 use it wisely. But he also criticized the way they 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.680 structure and set up their business. Apparently everyone at the 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:17.080 ABC is working in silos. He told them, the ABC 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:21.320 has this myriad of services which are extremely proficient at 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:25.199 not cross promoting each other. They're extremely practiced and developed 0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:26.800 in the art of ignoring each other. 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.240 And I think that is not only to be regretted 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:31.480 but is to be rejected. 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.320 So not only are they not doing a good job 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:35.920 of reporting the news, but they're not doing a great 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:40.280 job leveraging the incredible advantages they get from a one 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:42.920 point something billion dollars worth of taxpayer money. 0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:44.920 I know. And it's much like you look at the 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:49.200 nine network now, which has radio assets, print assets and 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:53.280 television assets, and they are very good at cross promoting. 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:57.480 I mean Nick McKenzie, the investigative reporter over at nine, 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:00.240 he's on sixty minutes, he's in the Sydney Morning, is 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:02.160 in the age, he pops up on the radio. They're 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.800 very good at using their talent across all of their 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:07.480 bits and pieces, which is exactly what the ABC should 0:23:07.520 --> 0:23:11.159 be doing. Why have one person do the story on 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.960 the website and then a different person do the story 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.520 on the radio, and then another person do the story 0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:18.200 on the TV when you could. 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.360 Have the one person do all of the reports because 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:20.840 they've only got it. 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:23.399 Right at once, they've just got it presented in different 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:26.040 ways for different formats. Right, you can have one person 0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:28.920 do the job of what is currently three people's jobs. 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:30.760 And all of this goes back to what I was 0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.639 saying before about the ABC trying to muscle into the 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.240 commercial market. And it also goes to why the ABC 0:23:38.880 --> 0:23:42.119 has spent so much money on an increased spend on 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:46.639 advertising and particular audience research, because what the ABC is 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.520 worried about is that when they go to the federal 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.359 government and ask for more money, and Kim Williams has 0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:54.399 already indicated that he wants more money out of the 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:56.880 federal government, they have to be able to go over 0:23:57.000 --> 0:23:59.639 and say, well, we're getting x number of readers, X 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.240 numbers of listeners, x number of viewers every month. 0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:04.399 We're increasing this, we're increasing that. 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:09.760 And lifestyle content is traditionally good clickbait content. It's soft, 0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.320 it's stuff that you're quite happy to click on and 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:14.679 have a Now, you might only spend thirty seconds on it, right, 0:24:15.040 --> 0:24:18.600 but it entices the reader in which then can artificially 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:22.560 inflate your readership numbers. Now that's good for commercial media 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:25.800 because you can sell advertising in that space, and that's 0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:29.719 the lifeblood of any commercial media organization. The great thing 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.639 about the ABC is that they don't have to worry 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.600 about their revenue stream. They don't have to go after 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:40.000 the lowest common denominator to generate revenue. And then do 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.760 the good work on the side. The ABC can just 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:45.200 do the good work all the time because the billion 0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:48.960 dollars ain't going anywhere. They shouldn't be doing the lifestyle 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:52.600 content at all. They should be purely focused on news 0:24:52.840 --> 0:24:57.880 and Australian television and Australian radio content that engages readers, 0:24:57.960 --> 0:24:59.320 listeners and viewers. 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.200 And is good for the broader public. 0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:03.840 They don't need to do lifestyle, but they see it 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.919 as the easy way to inflate their numbers to then 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.440 get more revenue. So they're reverse engineering it to try 0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:11.720 and achieve what they ultimately want to achieve. When they 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:13.919 could just go, well, bugger it, let's just spend all 0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.560 of our money on investigative journalism. I don't think anyone 0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:17.600 would complain about that. 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.480 Why don't we give the last word to Kim Williams himself. 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:21.520 Liz will love this clip. 0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:23.879 This is when he became chair back in March, and 0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:25.920 this is the advice he gave again for free to 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.280 ABC journalists if they want people to actually tune in, 0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:33.400 you know, if you don't want to reflect a view 0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:39.040 that aspires to impartiality, don't work at the ABC. There, 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.240 Lizzie can't be critical of that. If you don't want impartiality, 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:43.520 don't work at the ABC. 0:25:43.960 --> 0:25:44.200 None. 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:48.560 But I'm afraid looks as great as that sounds. Have 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:51.480 we seen any changes since March? Have we seen any 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:55.200 changes of the ABC? And now we haven't. I've said 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:56.440 it before and I'll say it again. 0:25:56.560 --> 0:26:00.320 If Maurice Newman as chairman could not turn the ABC und, 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.600 I don't know that anybody can, because my money would 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.240 have been on him. And obviously, and as we've said 0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:07.000 many times. 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.560 Before, this is an organization wide thing. 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:14.600 So it almost doesn't matter whose chairman, as much as 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:17.080 we like to pay out on them, Sorry Ada Bartros, 0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:21.560 because obviously they've got some leverage, but they're not running 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.880 the show. And so even when they do talk good, 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:26.600 solid common sense. 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:28.600 I don't think it's anything to get excited about. 0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:32.120 Because of the thousands of people working for this organization, 0:26:33.119 --> 0:26:36.119 we know that they are biased, and we know that 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:39.879 they're churning out lifestyle stories they've got there. Something that 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:45.840 always just absolutely blows my mind is the ABC queer 0:26:46.480 --> 0:26:49.840 content on Instagram, and a lot of that is the 0:26:50.000 --> 0:26:52.720 kind of content that you really hope that younger people 0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:57.280 aren't seeing because it's simply not appropriate, and you wonder 0:26:57.440 --> 0:27:03.399 how many taxpayer dollars are going in to advertising this. Kids, 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.520 as we know, are far too young on Instagram these days, 0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.840 Instagram in particular that kind of thing where you're like, 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:14.439 what is our national broadcaster doing when, like you say, 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.960 Caleb could just be covering the news, wouldn't that be great? 0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:18.840 You mentioned Ida Buttros. 0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:20.480 By the way, the funny thing about Ida Buttro's and 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.040 Kim Williams is we've heard I think more from Ida 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.160 Buttros since she stopped. 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:25.720 Being the chair. 0:27:26.080 --> 0:27:29.639 At least Kim Williams is making statements while he's running 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:30.560 the show and trying to. 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:31.040 Have an effort. 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:32.960 But this is the danger though, is never Kim Williams 0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.680 that you know, he goes in there and tries to 0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:38.359 do something and then ultimately can't do anything because the 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.400 staff run the show, which is I'm assuming what Ida 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.119 Buttro's came up against, right Like, I'm sure she went 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.440 in there, given how vocal she's been now, I'm sure 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.440 she tried to do something while she was in there, 0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.560 but she quickly worked out that the animals are running 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:54.200 the zoo, so now she can finally say what she 0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.520 actually thinks because she couldn't do it from the inside. 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:58.159 And that's the problem with that sort. 0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.600 Of blowing the ABC up. And again I'm not sure 0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.359 you how you actually fix the place. 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.399 Unfortunately, Yeah, I'm not sure you can blow it up. 0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.600 Let's go to the UK where they're experiencing some of 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:11.399 the worst riots they've seen in well over a decade. 0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:15.800 It all began last Monday when three girls were stabbed 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.280 to death by a seventeen year old young man born 0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:22.680 in England but believed to be the son of migrants. Well, 0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:27.360 that event has caused mass riots by people angry about immigration, 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:32.320 and then counter protests by immigrants themselves. Now will show 0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.160 you some of the footage from the riots in a moment, 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.840 but it's worth having a listen first to newly installed 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:42.680 PM Keir Starmer condemning the riots and specifically what he 0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:44.760 calls far right thuggery. 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:45.320 Have listened. 0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:51.400 I utterly condemn the far right thuggery we've seen this weekend. 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:56.400 Be it no doubt those that have participated in this 0:28:56.560 --> 0:29:01.080 violence will face the full force of the law. The 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:05.520 police will be making arrests, individuals will be held on 0:29:05.720 --> 0:29:11.160 remand charges will follow and convictions will follow. 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:14.800 All right, so if you're not familiar with what's been happening, 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.880 have looked at this footage which shows the scale of 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:36.080 the riots that have happened over the past week. These 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.280 rights are happening right across the country. Have looked at 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:42.800 this vision from outside our holiday inn where migrants will 0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.040 believe to be being accommodated, and check out the crowd 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:47.520 trying to break into the hotel. 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:56.640 The other. 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:05.000 Now, people upset about unsustainably high levels of immigration and 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.160 some of the violence that that has brought to the 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.800 UK and other trouble they've been met by counter protesters 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:26.480 chanting a la akba. I want to show you just 0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.720 one more piece of vision before we talk about it. 0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.760 Have a look at the police struggling to contain Actually, 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.240 this is not the one with the police. This is 0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.640 a guy being beaten up on the street by an 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:50.640 angry mob, just one guy trying to escape them, and 0:30:50.760 --> 0:31:09.240 as I said, police struggling to contain it. Okay, so 0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:11.640 it's just mayhem over there. Liz, give us your take. 0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:12.880 What on earth is going on? 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:15.720 I think this was always bound to happen. 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:20.480 I've always believed I don't believe in multiculturalism. I believe 0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.880 in a multi ethnic society, absolutely, but when you have 0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:29.760 societies that are essentially at odds with each other, you're 0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:34.680 going to have incredible resentment grow in the hearts of 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:39.280 the native English people when they see their because it's 0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:40.840 not there's. 0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:44.080 A big distinction between the legal migrants, and. 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:48.240 Yes, there have been an unprecedented number over them during 0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:52.320 the last administration and that's not going to end under Kirstama. 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:53.640 He's made that pretty clear. 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.960 But then there's also hundreds, like the most conservative estimate 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:02.400 at the moment is eight hundred and illegal immigrants who, 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:06.560 similar to America, are being housed in different hotels like 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:09.640 the one we just saw, at the cost of millions 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:14.120 of pounds per day to the British taxpayer. So it 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:19.760 is in while in some sense, yes, the catalyst for 0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.960 this has been the death of those three beautiful girls 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:23.640 just going to. 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:29.840 A dance lesson that is the tip of the iceberg. 0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:33.960 England has been over the last decade through such a 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:35.640 massive change. 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:37.880 I have often. 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:42.080 Wondered, especially when terrible crimes like this take place, how 0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:46.280 far they are, how close they are rather to boiling point, 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:49.160 And what we are seeing right now is boiling point. 0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:50.800 Last week we were looking at footage of. 0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:55.760 Police cars on fire and people just completely out of control. 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:59.720 It doesn't look like it's going to be settling anytime soon. 0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:05.360 But something that I really took note of with Kirstarmer's 0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:09.600 address today, this is what I see as a prime 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:15.480 minister siding with murderous alien foreigners over their own native people. 0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:17.960 And every time a leader does this they use the 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.000 same word far right, far right, far right. 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:22.960 We know, and it has been the. 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:28.160 Case through centuries of the past, that riots true riots. 0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.400 We're not talking about people just walking along chanting the 0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:31.840 same thing. 0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:32.560 At the same time. 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:37.760 Riots like these are the language of severely disenfranchised people. 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.240 Now I am not condoning the violence that's taking place, 0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:46.320 I'm not condoning the vandalism, etc. But these people are 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:52.000 absolutely sick of it. They are absolutely sick of it. 0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:58.040 We have seen even a British serviceman literally decapitated in 0:33:58.320 --> 0:34:02.040 the streets of London. There are countless stories I could 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:06.120 go through that just absolutely hair raising stories. This has 0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.080 been happening for years and years and years, and people 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:12.600 are sick of it and you can't blame them. 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:18.000 It's interesting to look at his statement today about these 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.839 riots compared to how he went out of his way 0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.719 during the BLM rights to not condemn that right, because 0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.359 because it's very easy to condemn far right activists, it's 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.960 not so easy to condemn, you know, people who are 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:34.200 standing up for a social justice cause in the same 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:38.280 way that he didn't condemn those clearly Muslim protesters carrying 0:34:38.320 --> 0:34:42.799 on our ark bar and gathering way that the other 0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:43.960 side has been. 0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:46.360 And I think Nigel Farag, of. 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.560 Course has recently been elected for the Reform UK Party, 0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:52.000 was right in a statement that he put out today 0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:56.960 saying that he condemns the violences. I think we all do. 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:01.200 But what has led to this is that every time 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:05.680 people have tried to have a civil discussion about the 0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:08.640 state of migration in the UK, and it's the same 0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:11.640 across the rest of the Western world, you are howled 0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.239 down for doing so. You're called racist for daring to 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:20.759 ask basic, pretty straightforward questions about the culture of your 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:23.840 country and the makeup of your country, etc. And so 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:27.560 if you keep telling people that they are bad people, 0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.719 they'll start acting like bad people because what's their left 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:35.359 to lose? Right, You've told me that I'm a leper, Well, 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.799 bugger it. I'm going to act like one because I've 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.040 got no other outlet left to use. And that is 0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.759 the point that the UK has reached now. And of course, 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.960 you going back to what you were saying about all 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.840 of this stemming from the killing of those three girls 0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:51.480 and the early stages after that, we know that that 0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.840 believe that he is the alleged murderer is. 0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:56.280 The son of migrants. 0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:59.160 In the early stages, there were stuff floating around online 0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:03.200 suggesting that he was a refugee himself, and they're a 0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:07.040 suggestion that that information may have been proliferated across the 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:11.640 Internet by foreign nations. Now, you would not blame any 0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.799 foreign nation outside of the West for pushing that kind 0:36:14.840 --> 0:36:18.440 of misinformation online when they can see how much we 0:36:18.600 --> 0:36:22.560 ourselves have done to divide our nations. Why would you 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:26.520 not take the opportunity to essentially divide and conquer and 0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:30.360 whip up disunity in Western nations at moment like moments 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:34.480 like those through misinformation because it proves the point of 0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:36.239 exactly how we are. 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:37.160 It's what it's done. 0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:40.000 Just quickly, Kirstarmer is saying we're going to jail all 0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:42.040 of the people involved in these riots. But I was 0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:45.439 reading today that there are only seven hundred spaces left 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.719 in all the jails in England for males, and they 0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.560 are currently in the process of releasing thousands of prisoners 0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.359 once they serve forty percent of their term to free 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.239 up jail space. They rested one hundred and fifty people 0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.759 already over these rights. They want to arrest hundreds more, 0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.759 but they literally don't have any space in jails to 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:03.319 put them into. 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.640 And that's what he will use this for, by the way, 0:37:05.840 --> 0:37:10.920 to villify the patriots, badly behaving patriots, naughty, bad patriots, 0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:15.120 stop it, and to villify anyone who holds any kind 0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:20.000 of anti immigration sentiment when it's not necessarily anti immigration sentiment. 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:24.279 It's anti mass immigration, anti illegal immigration. 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:28.239 That's what he's already doing. It's just so predictable it 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:29.040 grosses me out. 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:29.919 We're to go to a break. 0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.400 When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow, 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:36.720 including Stephen miles promise to open state owned petrol stations. 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:41.920 It's coming up. Welcome back. 0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.640 Let's take a look at what's making news in tomorrow's papers. 0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.040 There's a fair bid on We'll start with the Courier Mail, 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:51.279 which has a great photo of the photo finish. 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.680 Of the one hundred meter event at the Olympics. 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:57.800 But the story is interesting. State gets into petrol business, 0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:03.000 caps price rises. Stephens Servo reads the headline, A re 0:38:03.080 --> 0:38:07.040 elected labor government would open state owned fuel stations in 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:12.520 an extraordinary market intervention designed to lower prices. Now, Miles 0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:16.319 has already promised that he will ban fuel stations from 0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:20.319 hiking prices by more than five cents eliter on any 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:24.480 one day, but he's now promising if he's re elected, 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.920 he will open up a series of state owned fuel 0:38:28.000 --> 0:38:31.920 stations across Queensland where they're quote most needed. 0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:34.120 So I think this is a great idea. 0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:36.600 Okayle If they're going to open up state owned petrol 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.279 stations to help cost of living, we could next have 0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:43.600 state owned supermarkets. Stephen Miles can go into the supermarket business. 0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:45.839 What else could he open up? He could do all 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:46.399 sorts of time. 0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:48.520 Oh, I was going to say state owned media, but 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.080 we've already got one of those, haven't we know? 0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:53.480 He could just have state owned everything. 0:38:54.000 --> 0:39:00.839 Welcome to communist Queensland. I don't understand when you see people, 0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.279 I don't understand what he's trying to do here. Well, 0:39:04.120 --> 0:39:05.800 I get the idea that he's going to open a 0:39:05.880 --> 0:39:09.160 bunch of servos at which he is presumably going to 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.759 have cheap fuel, in the hopes that it means the 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:15.240 other servos around the joint have to lower their prices. 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:17.880 But this business about, I'm going to change it so 0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:20.359 that you can't put the price up by more than 0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:23.640 five cents on any given day. The effect of that, 0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:26.279 and again I understand what he's trying to do, but 0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:28.520 the effect of that will be that it will essentially 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:33.319 equalize the market, because right now, you know, on one 0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:37.120 day you can have fuel prices let's say a dollar 0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:40.480 sixty seven for unleaded, and then the next day it'll 0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:44.120 be two dollars. So that's a you know, I'm bad 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.879 with mathematics. It's that twenty three cents that that goes 0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:48.680 between twenty Is it twenty three cents? 0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:50.200 I don't know anyway, I can't do the numbers in 0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:51.040 my head right now. 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:53.480 No, it's just thirty three cents, isn't it. 0:39:54.280 --> 0:39:54.680 Well, I don't know. 0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.080 It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. What 0:39:57.200 --> 0:40:00.560 I'm saying is that if you take away the ability 0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:02.800 to through the current price cycles, I mean, I have 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.040 the price cycles where fuel goes down and then fuel 0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:08.000 goes back up again, and then it sort of slowly 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.560 comes back down until it reaches a low price, and 0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:13.080 then it shoots back up again. What would happen if 0:40:13.120 --> 0:40:15.320 you can have no more than a five cent increase 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:18.000 each day is that once you hit the bottom of 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.440 the price cycle, it would only be able to go 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:22.960 up by five cents on any given day, so you 0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:26.640 go from sixty seven to seventy two, and on and 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.680 on it would go, which means you're not going to 0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:31.600 have the price cycles anymore. The fuel price is just 0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.760 going to sit somewhere in the middle of the price cycle, 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:37.120 because why would you put your prices up or down 0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:39.759 if you can only do it in five cent increments 0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:42.400 every day. And the effect of that will be that 0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:45.160 every time you go to the bowser, you might be 0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.600 paying between a dollar eighty and a dollar ninety, whereas now, 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:51.080 if you're smart, you might be able to fill up 0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.160 at a dollar sixty seven and then wait for the 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.200 cycle to go down again. Every now and again you 0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:56.360 get caught and you've got to pay the. 0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:57.400 Two dollars or whatever. 0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:00.400 But you'd equalize the market so that every one is 0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.920 paying the same all the time basically, which may well 0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:04.880 be more than what you're paying for. 0:41:04.960 --> 0:41:08.759 You will never assume he only means by increase. You've 0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.480 got to assume because the whole idea. 0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:14.480 Of opening a dozen state owned petrol stations is to. 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:17.200 Help out with costs of living, make this more affordable 0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:21.799 for people by supplying more competition in the market, especially in. 0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:23.280 The areas where it's most needed. 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:28.239 As he goes on to say, but if if it 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:31.120 would have the effect that you're describing, then you're actually 0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.879 not helping people out at the hip pocket at all. 0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:38.000 So I'm going to assume that he simply means you 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:41.440 cannot adjust it more than five cents on the increase, 0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:42.520 not on the decrease. 0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:45.799 But that's the thing. 0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.640 If you can't, at the end of the price cycle 0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.120 jump up thirty cents, and you've got to do it 0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:53.960 by five cents every day, why would you put your 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.000 price down to the bottom of the cycle in the 0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.960 first place, knowing that you just meet it somewhere in 0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:01.080 the middle. So instead getting down to the dollar sixty, 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:03.080 at least you say you go down to a dollar eighty, 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.000 and then you can increase it by five cents a 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:07.040 day back up to two bucks, because if you go 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:08.880 all the way down to the bottom of the price cycle, 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:12.719 you're going to do it again, say tuned out every 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:16.040 single day. I can't see how the petrol operators would 0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:16.320 copy that. 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.759 Bottom line is I can't believe he's serious about this, 0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.120 but I do believe he's serious about the headline. He's 0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:23.200 going to do something about cost of living to make 0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:26.520 and he only has to convince people until October. 0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:29.440 And he may be the only bloke who believed he 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.160 has petul in the tank. Let's go to the Australian where, 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:35.120 of course the big story of the day tomorrow. Green's 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:38.920 divisive rhetoric is fueling domestic terror threat, says the PM. 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:40.439 Anthony Alberezi has. 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.880 Accused the Greens of fueling community divisions that have prompted 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.880 the government to raise the terrorism threat level from possible 0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:50.480 to probable, saying the party support for long running protests 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:56.920 outside MP's officers is undermining social cohesion. Now, look may 0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:00.200 well be true that there have been protests going on 0:43:00.480 --> 0:43:04.680 outside MP's offices for some time, including his own electorate 0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:09.719 office in Graindler in Marrickville, complaining about actually think it's 0:43:09.760 --> 0:43:12.160 in Newtown his office, but you know, complaining about the 0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:16.600 government stance on the Israel and gars of war. But 0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:19.000 if you have a look at the people who hang 0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:22.239 around outside these MP's officers, I don't think any of 0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:25.160 them would make very good terrorists. The fact that they've 0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:27.400 been perched out in the front of an MP's office 0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.400 for upwards of the world. What is it now, January, 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.160 they started out in front of the PM's office. They 0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.320 ain't going to be terrorists. They would have done something 0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.320 by now if they were going to do it. I 0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:40.200 get the argument that he makes about for order trouble 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:43.160 being whipped up by this war and the way the 0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:45.200 Greens have treated it. I don't know it's got much 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.680 to do with the protests outside MP's offices. 0:43:48.040 --> 0:43:48.360 Agreed. 0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.480 What strikes me about this article is not so much 0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.960 the Prime Minister's comments, but the Spy chiefs comments, who 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:58.360 says that the increased terror threat is due to and 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:06.080 I quote, people with personal grievance and intolerance. So I'm 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.120 just confused as to what that means. People are just 0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:11.600 generally just annoyed and intolerant and that's the threat level. 0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.480 Then he goes on to refer to what's happening in Gaza. 0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.919 Okay, now we're getting a bit more specific, but to say, well, 0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:21.200 there's people with personal grievances and they're intolerant. And then 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:24.359 he goes on to talk about what extreme ideologies. What's 0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.480 an extreme ideology? If you're an extreme Christian, you believe 0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:31.080 in really loving your neighbor and really forgiving your emens, 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:34.879 so to say, extreme ideologies, some extreme. 0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:35.839 Ideologies are really good. 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.319 What made me laugh is is on the one hand, 0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:43.600 you've got people with personal grievances and extreme ideologies and conspiracies, right, 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:44.720 that's what's causing the threat. 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:47.200 Then the Greens. 0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:52.520 Senator David Schubridge, he says that Anthony Albanezi is just 0:44:52.880 --> 0:44:56.959 by criticizing them as platforming personal grievances and he's buying 0:44:57.000 --> 0:44:58.920 into quote conspiracy theories. 0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:01.440 Is alban Easy a. 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:06.960 Prime suspect for a terror it's you're going to leave 0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:09.239 you a terror threat. Be specific, tell us what you're 0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.680 really talking about, and trust us to be able to 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:15.040 have a sensible conversation instead of hinting at vagaries that 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:16.960 we all know what you're saying, but you're not really saying. 0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.920 For the PM to be like the Greens are driving this. 0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.440 I don't think the Greens are quite that powerful, to 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:26.120 be honest, I don't think that's why azi O's bumped 0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:27.280 up the terror threat. 0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:29.560 Now we were going to do another story on the 0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:31.399 front of the oars, but let's talk about this quickly 0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.480 before we go to the break. What's going on in 0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:35.040 the world of working from home? 0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:39.319 Liz Well, the new South Walian premiere. Some call him 0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.960 chris Min, call him other things. Now I say, whalien, 0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:46.400 don't shoot. The messenger has said everyone's. 0:45:45.960 --> 0:45:46.839 Going to get back to work. 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:48.960 He's not taking this anymore. 0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.640 Hi ho, Hi ho. It's back to work we go. 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:55.600 Thousands of New South Wales public servants will return to 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.840 the offices full time from today, with work from home 0:45:59.080 --> 0:46:02.080 privileges run voked by the Men's government in a. 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:05.560 Move welcomed by Sydney's business leaders as a lifeline for 0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:06.640 the struggling CBD. 0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:10.080 Obviously, it's very obvious a lot why the state's doing this. 0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:11.839 There's very real incentives there. 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.520 But I'd love to know how many people leave, because 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.279 this has become a do or die for a lot 0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:21.200 of people when they're interviewing for jobs or making up 0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:22.640 their minds about which ones. 0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:24.920 To take or indeed staying where they're currently. 0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.680 What's hilarious about this is the Victorian government got by 0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:30.239 contrast to saying public servants there can work from home 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.400 and maybe this will attract more public servants to Victoria, 0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.040 which is just what the state of Victorian needs. When 0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:37.600 you go to a bank, what do you do when 0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.879 you arrive home to find another family in your swimming pool? 0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:46.480 That's coming up, Come on, welcome back, all right. 0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:49.200 A really interesting story is from Montreal about a family 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:52.040 who arrived home to find strangers at their place. 0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.839 Having a pool party in the back. Yeah. 0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:57.800 The homeowners are of course thinking what on earth is 0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:02.080 going on? They approach these people living it up in 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:05.680 the pool and uh, well this is what ended up happening. 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:08.640 There was people in our pool. 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:13.239 First reaction is clearly was I have what are you 0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:13.879 doing here? 0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:17.840 On Sunday Marie Jose came home to a surprise a 0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:21.279 family of five strangers were in her pool. Then she 0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:24.600 found out they had paid someone else to be here. 0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:27.520 Young people could have run the place to do a 0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:28.360 big party. 0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:31.320 The gate has a lock, and chose had removed the 0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:32.279 ladder the day. 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:35.840 Before when we arrived, the ladder was like floating around 0:47:35.880 --> 0:47:37.560 with them, so yeah, it was funny. 0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:39.359 So we all did for them to go out. 0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:42.960 Chose says the family was reasonable when asked to leave, 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.720 but she fears someone could have gotten hurt. She found 0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.479 out the rental was booked through the pool sharing app 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:53.200 Swimply the pool was listed for twenty four dollars an hour, 0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.440 with loud music, smoking and alcohol allowed. 0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.799 So it turns out the former homeowner still making big 0:48:02.880 --> 0:48:05.880 bucks off the backyard pool. And of course the homeowner 0:48:05.920 --> 0:48:08.919 would have had to approve the bookings so they would 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:12.399 know that they are just foisting a pool party upon 0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:14.920 the unsuspecting current homeowners. 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:15.680 Hilarious. 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.640 It's only a raught if you're not in honor. Now 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:22.279 Rapper fifty fifty cents sorry once sang a song called 0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.160 patiently waiting, and you may will be patiently waiting for 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:29.520 your train this morning in Brisbane, where today they reduced 0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:33.600 fears to fifty cents. So the premier, Stephen Miles, who 0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.399 we told you before, wants to open up state owned 0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:39.400 petrol stations. He's already trying to do himself out of 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:40.560 business by getting it. 0:48:40.560 --> 0:48:41.880 To go on the train instead. 0:48:42.320 --> 0:48:43.919 But imagine if you were one of the people who'd 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:46.160 got on the train to enjoy your fifty cent ride 0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:50.719 this morning and you were confronted by this, I'm on 0:48:50.800 --> 0:48:51.320 the train. 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:52.960 For the quest day of fifty cent theirs and let's 0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:54.120 go to see so many people? 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.200 Is it's just so awkward? 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.600 Make we use it every day? 0:49:04.800 --> 0:49:05.400 We have to. 0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:07.520 This is how we get to work if we're not 0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:09.680 here for the fifty cent sale. 0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:10.920 And we'll pay full fair if we don't have to 0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:12.600 ride with him that the lasters stick around. 0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:14.040 Coming up is the Red Penny Show.