WEBVTT - The personal struggles I have been dealing with lately

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the

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<v Speaker 1>place where business is far from boring. And today I'm

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<v Speaker 1>recording on gaddigul Land. Now I somehow manage to build

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<v Speaker 1>an empire from the garage underneath my house, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>here to share it all with you, from the wins,

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<v Speaker 1>the mistakes, the challenging times and the funny moments in between. So,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're in business yourself, perhaps you're not in the

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<v Speaker 1>game at all, maybe you're looking for some inspo, or

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<v Speaker 1>you simply just want to hear the tea, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast for you. Coming up on today's episode, we

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<v Speaker 1>are going personal. As much as business isn't personal at all,

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<v Speaker 1>it also is in every single way.

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought today I'm going to share with you

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<v Speaker 2>some of the stuff that I fucking struggle with. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to put it out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>I face every day. I don't want to say that

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<v Speaker 1>they're challenges, and they're definitely all a very me problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think this will give a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>business owners out there something to relate too, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can know that you're not alone with having these types

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<v Speaker 1>of thoughts and feelings when it comes to the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you struggle with in business. So, without further ado,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just get straight down to business.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Funnily enough, when you start your own business, if you

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<v Speaker 1>are just starting it yourself like I did at home,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of starting it for yourself. It's almost selfish

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<v Speaker 1>in a way. Not that it's a selfish thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a fantastic thing to do to want

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<v Speaker 1>to start your own business, but you ultimately are doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for yourself, and from those early days, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing everything yourself, just like the way I was,

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<v Speaker 1>like doing every single job in the business, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing it all for you, all for your own life,

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<v Speaker 1>and all for your own enjoyment and success, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>But one of the unspoken parts of business, which I

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<v Speaker 1>touch on a lot in this podcast, is how much

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<v Speaker 1>if you grow that business be you. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you get to that point where you're moving out of

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<v Speaker 1>your spare bedroom and you're you're stepping into a commercial space,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're hiring a team, whether it's one or

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<v Speaker 1>two or seventy employees like me, you'll realize pretty quickly

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<v Speaker 1>how much your business is no longer about you anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and how it is actually about everyone else. And by that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's about all of your staff, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>about all of your customers. And weirdly enough, my business

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<v Speaker 1>has got nothing to really do with me, even though

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<v Speaker 1>from the outside, from either a perspective of a customer

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<v Speaker 1>or a perspective of my staff member who knows like

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<v Speaker 1>from both fate isn't about me at all, even though

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<v Speaker 1>from the outside looking in.

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<v Speaker 2>It might seem like it's all about me.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, and in my mind as the CEO and

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<v Speaker 1>founder of Faith, my business has got fucking nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with me, and it has everything to do with

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else. And that's the price that you pay if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to scale a business big beyond you. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be about you anymore. As a matter

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<v Speaker 1>of fact, I think I myself put myself at the

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<v Speaker 1>back of the priority list. And this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to work on because as business owners and

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<v Speaker 1>bosses and managers, our priorities can get put to the

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<v Speaker 1>very back of the priority list. You know, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter how I'm fucking feeling, because what matters is how

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else is feeling. And these are the kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>things that I'm going to be touching on today. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to also start out by saying this is

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<v Speaker 1>very much just.

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<v Speaker 2>To me experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that this is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>same for every business owner. Some other business owners in

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<v Speaker 1>a similar position to me might feel completely different. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've even had people tell me that I need to

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<v Speaker 1>stop thinking this way or feeling this way. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is just like me opening up and sharing my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>and feelings about some of the things that I personally

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<v Speaker 1>struggle with now. A lot of the things that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to touch on, I when I stop and think

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<v Speaker 1>about it, I think maybe a lot of these stem

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<v Speaker 1>from me posting on social media for over ten years

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<v Speaker 1>and how conscious I have become of how I portray

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<v Speaker 1>myself and how other people portray me. Even though it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like everything that I post online is everything about

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<v Speaker 1>my life and I just say whatever I want, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm jumping on my stories, it just seems really

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<v Speaker 1>unfiltered and like I'll just say it how it is,

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<v Speaker 1>or blurred out a random thought. I will admit that

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<v Speaker 1>what I post online, even though it is yeah, candid

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<v Speaker 1>and raw and real, and fun. It's also like thoughtfully curated,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think about everything that I say, even when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just rambling, like I'm thinking about I'm saying. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being conscious of what I'm saying, and I'm subconsciously wondering

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<v Speaker 1>how people are going to take on board what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a lot of my feelings have stemmed

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<v Speaker 1>from that mindset that I've had of being I guess

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<v Speaker 1>watched on social media for such a long time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so conscious of how other people perceive me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that has trickled into my business. So my

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<v Speaker 1>first point here, and these are in no particular order whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>So the first I don't know whether to title these

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<v Speaker 1>as struggles or feelings, but the first thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>personally struggle with in my business journey is feeling extreme

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<v Speaker 1>guilt when it comes to taking a holiday, whether that's

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<v Speaker 1>two days away, whether that's four days away or five

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<v Speaker 1>days away. I absolutely struggle with it. And I've said

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<v Speaker 1>this a lot of times. I've said this to my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Matt, who I co host the High Scrollers podcast with,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've said this to a lot of people that know.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, and they always say, like, why the fuck do

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<v Speaker 2>you care?

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<v Speaker 1>Like especially my friend Matt. I'm sure most of you

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<v Speaker 1>would know him. He is just so funny, and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>who gives a fuck? Like just go on the holiday,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you've built this business, Like, who gives a fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Just go on the holiday, go away for three months,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Whereas every time Aj and I have gone

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<v Speaker 1>on a trip, and most of the time that we've

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<v Speaker 1>gone on a trip, it's been like we're having a

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<v Speaker 1>little week away, or we have like a friend's wedding

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I don't know why, but I and again,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe some of you other business owners out there can

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<v Speaker 1>relate to what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so much guilt around.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking time off work because I'm worried of what my

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<v Speaker 1>staff would think. And I know saying that out loud

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<v Speaker 1>sounds so stupid, but it's something that I honestly struggle with.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so much guilt walking away from the workplace,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if I'm going to do something leisurely, like just

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<v Speaker 1>simply going to feed because we can. And I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>to lose this mindset. And I guess I see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other business owners on social media who have

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<v Speaker 1>really successful businesses, and you know, they're flaunting being overseas

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<v Speaker 1>all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And like flashy cars and crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Countries that they're going to and all the places that

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<v Speaker 1>they're staying. And I don't know why, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared of coming across that way. And again, I

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<v Speaker 1>think this all stems from like social media and me

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<v Speaker 1>not wanting to come across like out of touch or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm always really worried that my staff would have

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<v Speaker 1>the mindset of, oh, like she's just going on this

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<v Speaker 1>flashy holiday. Like you know, I'm worried about what they

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<v Speaker 1>would say and that sounds so or what they would think,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that sounds so stupid to say out loud.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I never want to be that boss that

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<v Speaker 1>is never there or like she's always going on holiday.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is so silly of me to be saying,

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<v Speaker 1>because Matt's right, like I have worked so hard to

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<v Speaker 1>build this company.

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<v Speaker 2>I should be able to go on a holiday whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I want.

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<v Speaker 1>But I struggle so deeply and I have so much guilt,

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<v Speaker 1>and every time we go away, you know, I send

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<v Speaker 1>out a big email to everyone that would need to

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<v Speaker 1>know that I'm going to be away, but I say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>please contact us any time, because I just never want

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<v Speaker 1>to be that boss that's perceived as never being there

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<v Speaker 1>or not being available, or I only care about like

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<v Speaker 1>lining my own pockets from my own company to live

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<v Speaker 1>a leisurely life, when at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, what is the shame in doing that? If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to start a business because you want to

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<v Speaker 1>become super successful, because you want to spend eighty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the year traveling around the world and reaping the

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<v Speaker 1>benefits from the work that you've done, I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>that as a bad thing at all, But taking time

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<v Speaker 1>off work, even if it's going away for two days,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel extremely guilty, and it's something that I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>on and I really want to undo that mindset because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm worried that I'm going to get to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of my business journey or my life and think, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have enjoyed it more. I should have went

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<v Speaker 1>on more trips, because at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked so hard over the last seven plus years

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<v Speaker 1>of fate to get it to where it is that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I owe it to myself to enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>it a little more, and I don't know why I

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<v Speaker 1>have this mentality, but I'm just so mindful of I

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<v Speaker 1>guess my staff feeling like all I want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Is holiday, which is so stupid. But that's the first thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on to my second thing that I not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, I've definitely come to terms with this and I've

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<v Speaker 1>gotten over it. But a few years back, as Fate

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<v Speaker 1>began to grow, I delegated a lot of tasks.

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<v Speaker 2>I created a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of new roles for people and had them come into

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<v Speaker 1>the business and I would hand off tasks to them

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<v Speaker 1>that I once did every single day. Thinking back to

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<v Speaker 1>when I first started Fate and then my team started growing,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember handing over our customer service emails and I

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<v Speaker 1>started to do them less and less. But in those

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<v Speaker 1>early developmental years, I would still help, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd still be helping with the emails, same with processing returns,

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<v Speaker 1>same with counting stock, same with packing orders, being in

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<v Speaker 1>the warehouse, being really hands on. At one stage, that

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<v Speaker 1>was something that I did every single day. And as

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<v Speaker 1>the years went by, I began to do those tasks

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<v Speaker 1>less and less because we hired new people and that

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<v Speaker 1>was their responsibility. But I would still be helping quite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, and I'd be hands on and in the

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse every single day. And I remember back then, like

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<v Speaker 1>those few years ago, I would struggle if I wasn't helping,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, for example, in the warehouse. If I had

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<v Speaker 1>a day where I wasn't being hands on and helping

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<v Speaker 1>in the warehouse, even though I had people in their

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<v Speaker 1>doing that and getting paid to do that, I would

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<v Speaker 1>feel guilty that I wasn't there to help saying with

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<v Speaker 1>customer service emails. Like whilst it wasn't my job anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd still be very hands on and helping every day.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if I had a day here or like

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<v Speaker 1>two days there where I wasn't helping with the customer

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<v Speaker 1>service emails, I would struggle with guilt. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>think this comes from being so hands on in those

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<v Speaker 1>early days and slowly giving away those tasks that I

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<v Speaker 1>then struggled. It's just like a me problem. But I

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<v Speaker 1>had this feeling and thought of you know, oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>warehouse team are gonna be like.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's she today? Why isn't she helping with orders?

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<v Speaker 1>Even though people have gotten employed and paid to do

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<v Speaker 1>that job. It was just something that I really struggled

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<v Speaker 1>with delegating is really hard. Letting go of things that

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<v Speaker 1>you've done for so long is really hard, and then

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that guilt of I'm no longer helping with this task,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't pack orders anymore, Like I don't pack orders,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's just a job that I don't do it

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<v Speaker 1>fade anymore. And the reason for that is because we've

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<v Speaker 1>got a whole fucking warehouse team of people that do

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<v Speaker 1>that every day. And I'm okay with that now, But

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago, I would feel so much

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<v Speaker 1>guilt around the fact that my warehouse team is working

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<v Speaker 1>every day packing those orders, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm never there helping them.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just took me a really long time to

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<v Speaker 1>be okay with that and knowing that it's okay for

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<v Speaker 1>me to let go of certain roles within the business,

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<v Speaker 1>even though those roles were something that I used to

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<v Speaker 1>do full time. Because I've got bigger fish to fry,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got bigger things to focus on, And it was

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<v Speaker 1>just a matter of time and coming to terms with

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>In a business that's growing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna let go of tasks, You're going to hire

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<v Speaker 1>new people, they're gonna come in to do those roles

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<v Speaker 1>and at one stage you are just going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to step away, and that's okay. Another thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>have struggled with a lot personally over the recent years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm still struggling with today, is feeling like I

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<v Speaker 1>can't be there every day for every person on one Now. Obviously,

0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.800
<v Speaker 1>my company's at a size now where that is physically impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot, especially with our retail stores, like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>be on the floor in our Brisbane store every day

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<v Speaker 1>helping our churm side team. But even this spreads just

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<v Speaker 1>to our office and warehouse. So our office and warehouse

0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.360
<v Speaker 1>are in two separate buildings. They're like ten minutes apart,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're relatively close. But even just me not physically

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<v Speaker 1>being able to be there every day helping everyone one

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<v Speaker 1>on one in their roles, it's something that I majorly

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<v Speaker 1>struggle with. Like I struggle with guilt of being here

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<v Speaker 1>on a Monday, like I'm in the studio today, I

0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.920
<v Speaker 1>feel so much guilt that I'm here, even though.

0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm doing my podcast and that's part of my job.

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<v Speaker 1>I struggle with them being at work and wondering well

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<v Speaker 1>she's just in Sydney doing her podcast kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, this is all very much a me problem.

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<v Speaker 1>My staff are more than capable of me being in

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<v Speaker 1>Sydney every Monday, and they're more than capable of doing

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<v Speaker 1>their jobs. But it's just, again, I think this all

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<v Speaker 1>stems from just building this business from the ground up

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<v Speaker 1>and being so so heavily involved in everyone's roles, especially

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<v Speaker 1>in the early days, to the point where it is

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<v Speaker 1>now where I feel like I just can't be there

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<v Speaker 1>every single day, every single moment, and wanting to be

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<v Speaker 1>there to help everyone every step of the way. This

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I'm still working on at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, like it's it's all in my head, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all me, Like who knows, I can't speak on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of like my head off of staff, but I have

0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.920
<v Speaker 1>these fears that they would think where is she, Like

0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:40.480
<v Speaker 1>she's in Sydney doing her podcasts, And I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if for sure if that's what they think or if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just fucking making that up in my head. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that I struggle with. But I also am

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<v Speaker 1>trying to come to terms with the fact that, like

0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.600
<v Speaker 1>fate is a bit bigger of a company now, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is employed and qualified to be doing the roles

0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.320
<v Speaker 1>that they're doing, and they all have managers that.

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<v Speaker 3>They can go to honestly take we don't need it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm trying to get Fate to that point where

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<v Speaker 1>I can kind of step aside a little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>not have to worry about like the day to day

0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.720
<v Speaker 1>operational side of the business because there's enough management in

0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.440
<v Speaker 1>place at Fate now where everyone has someone they can

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<v Speaker 1>go to.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just still struggle.

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<v Speaker 1>With feeling like I can't be there to help everyone

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<v Speaker 1>every single day when I really want to. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's just like the nature of who I am

0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:30.760
<v Speaker 1>as a person. I love to help anyone that needs it.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, like I probably overcompensate with how much I

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<v Speaker 1>say to people, like message.

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<v Speaker 2>Me if you need me, email me if you need me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when I went to China, I'm like, message me

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time, like I will write back. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if it's fucking ten o'clock at night. My staff

0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:44.600
<v Speaker 1>can call me and let me know if they need something.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's just another thing that I'm still learning

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<v Speaker 1>to come to terms with and also giving myself grace

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<v Speaker 1>and just reminding myself I'm just one person, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a fucking so woman, Like I'm not I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>one person. I'm one girl. It is physically impossible for

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<v Speaker 1>me to help twenty five people full time in their roles,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's physically impossible, but it's still something that I

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<v Speaker 1>struggle with every day. Another one kind of off the

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<v Speaker 1>back of that, and again, I mean, all of these

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<v Speaker 1>are super personal to me and it might not be

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<v Speaker 1>the same experience for every other business owner, but just

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<v Speaker 1>feeling like I can't ever fucking make everyone happy when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the same position as me, where you have

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<v Speaker 1>got seventy people employed.

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<v Speaker 2>With the company that you own.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard enough if you were looking after ten people

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<v Speaker 1>that everyone is going to be extremely happy with everything

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent of the time, and when it's seventy people,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you're going to have more chances of people just

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<v Speaker 1>not being.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy with things. And it's really tough when you're a.

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<v Speaker 1>Business owner because it all does feel so personal when

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, it's not, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>really got to come to terms with the fact that,

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<v Speaker 1>like as a business owner, as a manager, as a boss,

0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you can only do the best that you absolutely can,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to accept that that still might not

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<v Speaker 1>be enough for some people. Sometimes. I think I've definitely

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<v Speaker 1>come to terms with that in my business journey years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I came to terms with the fact that Fate isn't

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<v Speaker 1>going to be everyone's ideal workplace, because that applies to

0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.840
<v Speaker 1>every workplace the same as you, Xander. You're working here

0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.520
<v Speaker 1>at Nova, you might think it's absolutely amazing, but not

0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.760
<v Speaker 1>everyone is going to think that it's absolutely amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been at other workplaces within media and I've hated.

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<v Speaker 1>It, but I'm sure there's other people that have worked

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<v Speaker 1>there that loved it totally.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just how the cookie crumbles. Is not every

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<v Speaker 3>environment is every for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think the hard thing or with that is.

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<v Speaker 1>When it's your own business, it can feel so personal

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<v Speaker 1>because in your mind, you have set this business up

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<v Speaker 1>and you think it's set up really well, and you

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<v Speaker 1>think that the way that you do things is really good,

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<v Speaker 1>and then to hear people say that it's not for

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<v Speaker 1>them or they don't like it, you can't help but

0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.119
<v Speaker 1>feel like you're getting stabbed in the chest because it

0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:20.879
<v Speaker 1>feels personal, even though it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>It makes me feel broke, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sure a lot of business owners will face

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<v Speaker 1>this at some point in their business journey, especially as

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<v Speaker 1>your business.

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<v Speaker 2>Is getting bigger.

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<v Speaker 1>But your workplace in your business is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be everyone's cup of tea. And the sooner that business

0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.320
<v Speaker 1>owners accept that, and as soon as business owners accept

0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that people will come and go, the sooner you'll feel

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<v Speaker 1>more at peace with yourself, because if you don't, you

0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.800
<v Speaker 1>will just be constantly beating yourself up that you're not

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<v Speaker 1>good enough, because in your mind, your workplace is perfect

0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:02.159
<v Speaker 1>and amazing, but humans are so complex and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>much out there for people to choose from these days

0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.399
<v Speaker 1>that your business that you have set up and you

0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.560
<v Speaker 1>have so much pride in and you're so proud of,

0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:12.560
<v Speaker 1>isn't going to be everyone's an amazing best workplace for them.

0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.639
<v Speaker 1>And that's okay, And that's something that I have become

0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.800
<v Speaker 1>extremely okay with, because if you don't, if you don't

0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.959
<v Speaker 1>accept that, you're just you're just going to beat yourself

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<v Speaker 1>up for your whole business journey. I have one more point,

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<v Speaker 1>and also, I'd like to say, with all these thoughts

0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:36.359
<v Speaker 1>and feelings that I'm having. If you're a business owner

0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.200
<v Speaker 1>and you employ people, or you have a company that's

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<v Speaker 1>in a growth period and you've got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people involved, I'd love to know if you feel any

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<v Speaker 1>of these the same way that I do, so feel

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<v Speaker 1>free to DM me on my Big Business podcast account.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think I really need to start a little

0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.160
<v Speaker 1>broadcast channel that's just a little side note, Xander, because

0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.440
<v Speaker 1>I've got like a broadcast channel that's just general, but

0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.639
<v Speaker 1>I want to make a business one. Then we can

0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:05.240
<v Speaker 1>like discuss together all these episodes. So I need to

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:08.400
<v Speaker 1>bloody do that. It's another thing for my to do list. Okay,

0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:10.399
<v Speaker 1>actually I've got two more little points. One just popped

0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:13.440
<v Speaker 1>into my head. Something else I struggle with, which I'm

0:20:13.440 --> 0:20:15.960
<v Speaker 1>sure every single business owner out there will struggle with

0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:19.720
<v Speaker 1>feeling like I am never achieving anything, or that I

0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:22.720
<v Speaker 1>can't achieve enough in a day. I think that's just

0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the beauty of business. It's never ending, and when you

0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:29.400
<v Speaker 1>have accomplished something so amazing, it's like yay, but then

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.159
<v Speaker 1>oh shit, now got to do these twenty other things.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's just the way it is in business. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so okay with that.

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.280
<v Speaker 1>If you feel like you're in business and you're just

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<v Speaker 1>not achieving anything because the to do list just keeps

0:20:41.920 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 1>getting longer and longer and the goals keep getting bigger,

0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:45.320
<v Speaker 1>especially if your.

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<v Speaker 2>Business is growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Please know that you're not alone in that one. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's all about just taking a moment to

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:55.600
<v Speaker 1>appreciate all the wins, even if they're absolutely tiny, because

0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 1>yet business is never bloody ending. And the last thing,

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.119
<v Speaker 1>which is more niche to me, I guess. But another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I kind of struggle with or am extremely

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<v Speaker 1>mindful of and have become way more mindful of over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, is I have never been more aware and

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<v Speaker 1>conscious of what I post about on social media because

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<v Speaker 1>I have staff now, I don't know out of all

0:21:23.000 --> 0:21:24.919
<v Speaker 1>my staff members how many of them are following me

0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:28.320
<v Speaker 1>on social media. It's definitely not a requirement on their behalf.

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.479
<v Speaker 1>I do not care if they follow me or not.

0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.000
<v Speaker 1>They do not need to be a follower, a listener,

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<v Speaker 1>a fan who knows some of them might even listen

0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 1>to these episodes, Xander, I wouldn't have a clue. I

0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.320
<v Speaker 1>know April does, but I don't know as for the rest. Hi,

0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:44.119
<v Speaker 1>April Hi, she kind of has to listen to.

0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 2>It's part of her job.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I said in the beginning of this episode,

0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I've been posting my life and things about my life

0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.640
<v Speaker 1>online for over ten years, but especially in the last

0:21:55.640 --> 0:21:58.080
<v Speaker 1>few years where Fate has become so big and I

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:00.920
<v Speaker 1>have so many people on our books, I have never

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:04.160
<v Speaker 1>been more aware and conscious of what I say here

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:09.800
<v Speaker 1>on my podcast, especially on my Instagram stories, in reels everything,

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:13.160
<v Speaker 1>because the scary thing is, like, I could say something

0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>on my story one night that could fucking really upset

0:22:17.040 --> 0:22:18.640
<v Speaker 1>one of my employees.

0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:20.919
<v Speaker 2>Even if it was like nothing about them, you know.

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.959
<v Speaker 1>And it's one thing to have a following online and

0:22:24.040 --> 0:22:27.440
<v Speaker 1>be mindful of how different everyone is and people's different

0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:30.200
<v Speaker 1>views and values and being careful of what I say

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:33.199
<v Speaker 1>in general, But then to think that you've got a

0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:36.840
<v Speaker 1>lot of people that you employ that might also be

0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:39.280
<v Speaker 1>tuning into everything you say, Like, that's just a whole

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:41.320
<v Speaker 1>other thing where I'm thinking, Fuck, I better not say that,

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.439
<v Speaker 1>because who knows that might upset someone that works for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's where context is important, and even that includes

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:50.240
<v Speaker 3>the context of your relationship with people. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you might throw something out online and I could be

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 3>looking at it being like, oh, yeah, cool, but then

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 3>someone else in the context of your relationship with them

0:22:59.400 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 3>would take that differently. So I can totally understand how

0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:06.639
<v Speaker 3>that you can be worrisome of what you're throwing out there.

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's just another thing.

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:10.199
<v Speaker 1>It's one thing for me to jump on my story

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 1>and give my thoughts on something that's happening I don't know,

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:17.879
<v Speaker 1>on social media or in the world or whatever. And

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.760
<v Speaker 1>it's one thing to have everyone that follows me like

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 1>come back to me in the dans.

0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:23.800
<v Speaker 2>Be like, nah, I disagree, blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it's just like a whole other level if

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 1>it's someone that you're paying and if they're working at

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<v Speaker 1>your company, and it's just I wouldn't say I necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>struggle with it, but it's something that I've become like

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<v Speaker 1>super wary of and super mindful of, and I'm just,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a bit more careful.

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<v Speaker 2>But then at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I hold back from posting because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>scared of what my staff will think. Again, this is

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<v Speaker 1>all just like a me fucking problem. Really, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, I just need to get the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck over all of it. But I thought I would

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<v Speaker 1>share some things that I personally just think about constantly

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<v Speaker 1>and have a bit of struggles with every now and then,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe every.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucking day, who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But this year, I'm really just trying to enjoy every

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<v Speaker 1>moment and remind myself that this is my first time

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<v Speaker 1>owning a business. And I think, especially for staff, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one thing that I would love staff to know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're working for a business and it's owned by

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<v Speaker 1>one person, like you know how you see those things

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like this is my mum's first time living

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<v Speaker 1>life as well, Like she's just figuring it out. Same

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<v Speaker 1>goes for like your boss, Like I'm not fucking perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>I would never say that I'm a perfect boss. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say I have so much to learn. I have

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<v Speaker 1>so much growing to do. And I'm kind of this

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<v Speaker 1>year giving myself grace in that, rather than getting all

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<v Speaker 1>caught up in my own worries and thoughts and laying

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<v Speaker 1>in bed at night thinking, fuck, I'm not doing anything right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to give myself grace and say, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my first time owning a business. I am still

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<v Speaker 1>learning as I go. I'm making this shit up as

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<v Speaker 1>I go. Quietly literally and just being okay with that

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<v Speaker 1>and just yolo having fun. Anyway, I'm going to end

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode with a tip.

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<v Speaker 3>Was your tip of the week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yolo?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's my tip of the week. My tip

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<v Speaker 1>of the week is, yolo, you only live once. We

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<v Speaker 1>are not perfect. Fucking hell, business owners are not perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>We are just people as well. We're just crazy people

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<v Speaker 1>that took a risk one day and sometimes, like in

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<v Speaker 1>my position, it snowballs into a big thing. Yolo, you

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<v Speaker 1>only live once. That's the worst tip of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I've ever done my favorite. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, Yolo.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's bring back, let's get back. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I'm doing like a staff performance review, just yolo, Yolo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, next episode we record, Yeah, Yolo.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, that's my tip of the week, and I'll catch

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<v Speaker 1>you in my bonus episode later in the week. And

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<v Speaker 1>remember to chase after your dreams as if they owe

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<v Speaker 1>you money.