1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: From the Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm Claire Harvey. 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: It's Monday, May twenty seven. An embarrassing defense secret is 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: out in the open. Australia had almost no submarines available 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: to defend the country between twenty oh nine and twenty twelve, 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: even as China was aggressively expanding its navy. That's an 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: exclusive live right now at The Australian dot com dot 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: a U. Missy mother Bromwyn Winfield was given legal advice 8 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: just before she disappeared in nineteen ninety three that she 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: was entitled to a significant share of assets from her 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: failed marriage. Husband John Winfield was the last person to 11 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: see Bromwin alive, but he says she chose to leave 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: him and be young daughters. He's never been charged and 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: denies any wrongdoing. It's all part of the gripping cold 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 1: case investigated in The Australian's new podcast Bronwyn, available now 15 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: at bronwynpodcast dot com. Compulsory national service for all eighteen 16 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: year olds, that's the bold policy. UK Prime Minister Rishi 17 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: Sunac is staking his future on It's the Billionaire versus 18 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: the Silk. As Barrister kirs Starmer tries to bring labor back. 19 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Stay with us. 20 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: Over the next few weeks. I will fight for every vote. 21 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 2: I will earn your trust. 22 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: Standing outside ten Downing Street getting soaked in the rain, 23 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: stoically refusing to hold an umbrella or even wear a raincoat. 24 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: That's the image Rishi Sunac created for voters as he 25 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: announced Britain is going to the polls on July fourth. 26 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: It's his bid to extend the Conservative's fourteen year rain 27 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: for one more term. 28 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 2: Region. 29 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: As Sunak drenched, a nearby loudspeaker started playing the opposition's anthem, 30 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: things can only get better. 31 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: China is looking to dominate the twenty first century by 32 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: stealing a lead in technology, and migration is being weaponized 33 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: by hostile states to threaten the integrity of our borders. 34 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: You might have thought sopping Sunak looked resilient or just 35 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: a bit of a drip. 36 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 3: I have to say I took the slightly more conventional 37 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: view that whoever and Reshisunac's communications team didn't bother to 38 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 3: look at the sky or their weather app should be sacked. 39 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: Richard Ferguson is the Australian's National Chief of Staff. As 40 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: you can hear. He's also a Scotsman and he's spent 41 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: a lifetime immersing himself in British politics. 42 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: That would have worked that scene of him in the 43 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 3: rain if it had been a stronger speech, but it 44 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 3: was not a strong speech. It was pretty flat. He 45 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: looked like a dejected man who knew he was going 46 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: to lose an election in a landslade. People in his 47 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 3: cabinet had no idea he was going to call an election, 48 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: and it was a surprise he called it, considering he's 49 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: about fourteen to twenty points behind in the polls. 50 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: Richard is a politics junkie and he likes things to 51 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: be done properly, so he was horrified when it emerged 52 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: over the weekend Sunak had broken the first rule in 53 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: political campaigning, resting look. 54 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: He had taken a day off, to which the jok 55 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: had become well, this might be a bad day for 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 3: labor because Reshi Sunak has an out campaigning making mistakes. 57 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: He's had a tough first week. He was photographed in 58 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 1: front of an exit sign. He visited the shipyard where 59 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: the Titanic was built, prompting lots of gags about sinking ships, 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: and he watched scores of his own MP's. 61 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: Quit tonight, one of the Prime Minister's most senior cabinet 62 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: ministers is calling it a day, Michael Gove, an influential. 63 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: Then Reshisunak came out with a blinder of a policy 64 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 3: which is compulsory Nash no service for everyone aged eighteen 65 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: in Britain. Basically they will get to choose between twelve 66 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: months in the military or their weekend doing volunteering firefighter 67 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: ambulance that kind of thing. So that would be the 68 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: first time since the early fifties that they have national service. 69 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: I mean, he needs something, so he might as well 70 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 3: try a couple hail mary's. 71 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: The other idea Sunac really needs to work is migration policy. 72 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: He wants to send illegal immigrants who attempt to enter 73 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: the UK via the English Channel to Rwanda. 74 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: Richie Sunac himself one day one which didn't help his 75 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: bad campaigning streak, said that there would be no flights 76 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: to Rwanda before July the fourth, when the election will 77 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 3: be held. He says it will only happen if a 78 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: Conservative government wins, so he won't have the image of 79 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: sending anybody off. But the problem he was going to 80 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: have is what if flights left in September to Rwanda, 81 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: but the small boats just kept on coming cross the 82 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: English Channel. Couldn't resk the policy being seen as a failure. 83 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: There have been five Conservative pms since twenty ten and 84 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: they've instituted immense reforms through education, to health and social policy, 85 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: but they've stumbled by seeming entitled and out of touch. 86 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: First David Cameron, who gambled and lost on Brexit, Britain's 87 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: departure from the European Union. Cameron called the referendum pleading 88 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: with Britons to stay in the EU. 89 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: The British people have spoken and the answer is we're out. 90 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: And I think the almost seven years of his premiership 91 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: were kind of flown away. 92 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: In that one instance, Cameron quit and Theresa May stepped up. 93 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: But May was slow to respond to the dreadful twenty 94 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: seventeen Grenfell Tower public housing fire, where seventy two people died. 95 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: The warnings this building was a fire trap apparently went unheard, but. 96 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: It was impossible to miss the screams of those begging 97 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: to be saved from it. 98 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: And she couldn't get her own MPs to agree on 99 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: how the EU breakup should be handled. 100 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: She just didn't have the charisma and she didn't have 101 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: the control of her party to succeed, and it was 102 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: left to Boris. 103 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: Boris, the brilliant, deeply flowed scruffbag who had successfully convinced 104 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: the British that EU was to blame for all their problems. 105 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 3: He was definitely the most consequential of those five prime ministers, 106 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 3: Claire and probably the most consequential prime minister definitely since Blair, 107 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: although you could make a very strong argument since Thatcher. 108 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: He got them out of the European Union, he led 109 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 3: them through the coronavirus pandemic. I think there's no doubt 110 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: that Boris and had extraordinary leadership when it came to 111 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: backing Ukraine in the months leading up to the war. 112 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: This hideous and barbaric venture of Vladimir Putin must end 113 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: in failure. 114 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: Boris Johnson is a hero and U train and rightly so. 115 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: But then there was the other side of Boris Claire. 116 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: There was the struggle with the truth, there was the chaos. 117 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: He shut up a bit night during lockdowns. It turns 118 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: out that his entire staff and Downing Street were constantly 119 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: having parties when other people, you know, couldn't go to 120 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 3: the funeral of their parents. 121 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: Mister Speaker I wanted to apologize. 122 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: His operation was chaos, and so he was steamrolled by 123 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: his party. Basically he was only left with a couple 124 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: of ministers and he had to go. But a lot 125 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: of those ministers now say they wish they'd never done it, 126 00:07:55,240 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 3: because then they got Liz Truss'd. 127 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: Be forgiven for saying who because Liz Truss's prime ministership 128 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: only lasted fifty days and featured a wildly ambitious economic 129 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: plan that crashed markets and sent interest rates soaring. Perhaps 130 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: her most memorable moment was visiting Queen Elizabeth at home 131 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: in Balmoral and posing for what turned out to be 132 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: the last formal photo of the Queen. 133 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: I think there's a great irony, Claire, that the late 134 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: Queen's first pre minister was Winston Churchill, maybe the greatest 135 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: Breton who ever lived. Definitely the greatest British prime minister, 136 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 3: you know, the man who won the Second World War 137 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 3: and stopped Haler. And we shall fight in the fields 138 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills, 139 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: we shall never surrender. And then her last pre minister 140 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: was the shortest serving I'd probably the worst prey Minister 141 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 3: Breton ever had. 142 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: We import two thirds of archeese. That is a disgrace. 143 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: She's written in her recent book that you know, she said, 144 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: why is this happening to me? To which point most 145 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 3: prime minister's globilis is actually an incredible opportunity to lead 146 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: your nation and you know, kind of darkness. But she 147 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 3: did it very woodenly. She had no charisma. She had 148 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: radical policies that most of her party fought went way 149 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: too far. It's okay to do Reaganomics if you're the 150 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: world's currency, but it doesn't really work when you're written 151 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: in you're about number seven. 152 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: And that led us to Rishie Sunac, who shares with 153 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: his wife a fortune of just over one billion Australian dollars. 154 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 3: I think that Richie Sunac deserves a lot of credit 155 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: for fixing a lot of the economic mess he was 156 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: left with by Liz Trust in such a short period 157 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: of time. Inflation has come down to target band just 158 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: in the past week, which is why some people think 159 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: he called this election. 160 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: It's a huge gamble. Will Briton's thanks Sunac for fixing 161 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: the mess, punish him for the years of chaos. 162 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: He has a reputation for being quite catchy and for 163 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 3: not really getting away. Everybody doesn't love them. It's just 164 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: not that good at politics. 165 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: Coming up the man who's carrying Labour's hope of kicking 166 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: out the Tories. If you haven't already caught Headley Thomas's 167 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: a new podcast, Bromwn. It's a new cold case from 168 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: the journalist who created The Teacher's Pet. Episodes one and 169 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: two of Bromwin are free to listen for registered users 170 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: right now at bromwynpodcast dot com. 171 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: Excuse me not at that you not only get. 172 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: Better, things can only get better by d Ring. That 173 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: was UK labor theme song for the nineteen ninety seven 174 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: election when Tony Blair swept to power. Now there's a 175 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: new labor hope, so Keir Starmer. Casey a former Crown 176 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: prosecutor and human rights barrister, the son of a nurse 177 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: and a factory worker. 178 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: Over the course of the last four years, we've changed 179 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: the Labor Party, returned it once more to the service 180 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: of working people. 181 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: Starmer wants to slash public health waiting times, create a 182 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: new border security command, set up a publicly owned green 183 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: energy firm paid for by a tax on oil and 184 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: gas and recruit thousands of new teachers. But so far 185 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: there's no big vision for sweeping change. 186 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: I think our cousin at The Thames The Great Thames 187 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: columnist Daniel Finkelstein put it really well recently, in which 188 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: she said Keir Starmer's message at this election as Breton 189 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 3: has broken, let's do nothing about it. 190 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: Starmer stumbled over the issue of the trans community, struggling 191 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: to answer questions like what is a woman? All the 192 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: while he was battling to get rid of the forces 193 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: of former Labor lator Jeremy Corbyn, a hard core left 194 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: winger who'd promised to rip up the Bricksit deal and 195 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: nationalize the railways. 196 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 3: He has really brought them back to the center, you know, 197 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 3: saying that they would stick by, for example, Tory's spending rules, 198 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 3: which would lead to some big cuts in the future. 199 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: He's you know, repaired the relationship with business. He has 200 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: really done a fantastic job of making the Labor Party 201 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 3: an electable alternative of the classic centrist kind of hot 202 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: keating Clinton Blair kind of way. Gaza has been the 203 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: big problem for Keir Starmer. You know, he has done 204 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: so much clear to try and separate his party from 205 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: the Party of Jeremy Corbyn, which had some of the 206 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: worst conspiracy theorist Anti semits you could imagine kind of 207 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: near his center of power. But there's a lot of 208 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: British Labor MPs with huge Muslim constituencies who feel very 209 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: strongly on the issue of Palestine. Because he's so far ahead, 210 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: it hasn't really made a problem in opposition, but I 211 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 3: think it will become a huge problem for him in government, 212 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: especially if he gets a large majority where he has 213 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: a lot of left wing MPs that essentially act as 214 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: the real opposition about like Tony Blair faced during the 215 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: Iraq War when left wing MPs were constantly voting against 216 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 3: him on the Iraq War. But he does have this 217 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: general problem that he's basically trying to say nothing in 218 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: order to not scare the horses and get in and 219 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: that doesn't always work, especially in an election campaign. 220 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Richard focus On is The Australian's National chief of Staff. 221 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the front. If you like 222 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: the show, give us five stars wherever you listen, and 223 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: don't forget to join us subscribers at the Australian dot 224 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: com dot AU and be the first to know