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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the

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Speaker 1: place where business is far from boring. And today I'm

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Speaker 1: recording on gaddigall Land. Now I somehow manage to build

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Speaker 1: an empire from the garage underneath my house and I'm

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Speaker 1: here to share it all with you, from the wins,

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Speaker 1: the losses, the huge mistakes and the funny moments in between. So,

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Speaker 1: whether you're in business, not in the game at all,

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Speaker 1: you're looking for some inspiration, or you simply just want

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Speaker 1: to hear the tea, this is the podcast for you.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's episode, I'm going to be chatting

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Speaker 1: with one of my great friends, Tara mckeehon. She is

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Speaker 1: the founder of Proud Poppy Clothing, which is an inclusive

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Speaker 1: fashion label that stocks sizes six through to thirty two.

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Speaker 1: She's giving me a run for my money with that

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Speaker 1: size range, let me tell you. Proud Poppy Clothing launched

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Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen from a tub of clothes in Tara's

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Speaker 1: hallway and has since grown into a multiple award winning

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Speaker 1: brand with a global e commerce presence and brick and

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Speaker 1: mortar stores in Queensland and Victoria. Before venturing into the

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Speaker 1: fashion industry, Tara worked as an emergency nurse with a

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Speaker 1: postgraduate degree in critical care. Her career has been diverse,

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Speaker 1: including roles such as a Smirrnoff promo girl, selling Raffle

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Speaker 1: tickets at the mcg and handing out yogurt samples at Woolly's.

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Speaker 1: She's a proud mum of two busy kids. She truly

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Speaker 1: has done it all. Tara is passionate about community and

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Speaker 1: is dedicated to empowering women around the world to live

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Speaker 1: their best lives unapologetically as themselves. Tara, Welcome to big Business.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so good to be here.

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Speaker 1: Excited, so excited, You've flown all the way from the

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Speaker 1: Gold Coast.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I know, just for me, just for you.

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Speaker 1: I should have brought you a gift.

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Speaker 2: You bought me coffee?

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Speaker 1: I did, I did. Now before we get anyone on,

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Speaker 1: I always liked to send our guests a bit of

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Speaker 1: a questionnaire. Now, because we're friends, I didn't send you

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Speaker 1: my full questionnaire. But when guests come on my podcast,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk with them about just real shit.

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Speaker 1: I don't want this to be a podcast. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: business is just so great and amazing, and everything's butterflies

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Speaker 1: and rainbows. So I remember texting you. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: exactly what I said, but I said something along the

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Speaker 1: lines of, do you have any like massive fuck ups

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Speaker 1: that you've made in your business journey so far? And

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Speaker 1: your response was just priceless.

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Speaker 2: I think I said something like, how many do you want?

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Speaker 1: No, you said how much time?

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Speaker 2: How much time do we have?

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Speaker 1: Oh man? Which is so true because I think thanks

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Speaker 1: to social media, you know, business can look like fun, amazing,

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Speaker 1: but it's just not the reality. And what's crazy is,

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Speaker 1: even though all of us are on our own business journey,

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Speaker 1: we do go through a lot of similar things, especially

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Speaker 1: for you and I where where in fashion I feel

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Speaker 1: like even more so the things that we know.

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Speaker 2: And talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what we're going to do today. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about all the fucked up things that

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Speaker 1: you have done.

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Speaker 2: He's so good at this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So when I did ask you for a list

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Speaker 1: of things right that we could chat about, one of

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Speaker 1: the big ones that stood out to me was taking

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Speaker 1: out loans within your business, and in particular, I think

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Speaker 1: you mentioned a Shopify.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Shopify capital is a big one I think at

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Speaker 1: For anyone that's listening and maybe doesn't know what Shopify

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Shopify capital is something that's offered. I don't

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Speaker 2: they can see the rhythm of your sales, they can

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Speaker 2: So then they offer you capital. So it's a click

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Speaker 1: And the funny thing is I haven't heard about or

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Speaker 1: know what Shopify is, it's the platform that we use

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Speaker 1: They're dangerous when it comes to this kind of stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think for me, it was only last year

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Speaker 1: my Shopify and in my inbox it's quite literally invitations

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Speaker 1: so I'll get an email and it's like, hey, you

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Speaker 1: can be part of shopify capital, get up to one

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Speaker 1: very enticing. Yeah, and I can imagine, especially if you're

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Speaker 1: to invest into your business to grow it, which.

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Speaker 2: We all would, Yeah, we all would.

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Speaker 1: We'd like some free money, why not. Yeah, they make

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Speaker 1: for another thirty days. So that's what I mean. I've

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Speaker 2: Click, you did it a click?

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Speaker 1: When was this?

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Speaker 2: So we had a situation at the end of last

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Speaker 2: out to banks, but proud Poppies and your brand to

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Speaker 2: up to five years now, so banks really want to see,

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Speaker 2: like I think Commonwealth came to us and said, you know,

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Speaker 2: you should be so proud of what you've done, but

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Speaker 1: Especially because when your business is new, even though you've

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Speaker 2: Don't forget we had Covid as well in between, so

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Speaker 2: we had this situation where we had not enough stock

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Speaker 2: dashboard do you want a million bucks?

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Speaker 1: And you were like, okay, fucking.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I want a million bucks.

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Speaker 1: How easy was it like when you did click through that? Like?

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Speaker 1: What did you have to feel out any information?

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Speaker 2: looking back, there's definitely things that I would do differently

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Speaker 2: because at the time, you know, you're trying to what

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Speaker 2: you're really not protecting your business, and you're not thinking

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Speaker 2: So you know, there were forms very minor like sign here,

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Speaker 1: Tick the box, an online form which again makes it

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Speaker 2: One hundred paperwork.

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Speaker 1: Yeah wow. And so from what I've read, because I've

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Speaker 1: not looking to bloody sign up, but I'm curiously right

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Speaker 2: To pay it back one hundred percent. Yeah, like, and

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Speaker 1: And the way that shopify Capital works is because you're

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Speaker 2: So they do something where they give you an amount

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Speaker 1: And do they just dump the money into your bank account?

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Speaker 2: Done just like your daily Shopify payout in your bank account.

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Speaker 1: So they just put that, Like, can you say how

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Speaker 2: One point five million dollars?

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Speaker 1: Wow? Yeah, so you just have one point five straight

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Speaker 1: and then what was the plan?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What were you got?

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Speaker 2: Plan was just to help bridge with some stock, so

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Speaker 2: really good terms with that that stock hadn't come through,

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Speaker 2: so I needed to find something else. But I needed

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Speaker 2: was no you know how you can get thirty days,

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Speaker 2: money to be able to get us through the season upfront,

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Speaker 2: which we didn't have. But I needed to find it

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Speaker 2: somewhere otherwise I would have had to really scale the

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Speaker 1: We do love a wine, but also we do love

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Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, it seems like a whole lot of fucking words.

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Speaker 1: It really is like you have a truck, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you have a whole like semi trailer truck. Well, no,

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Speaker 2: And it was really near your shop.

438
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 1: It was like and I didn't know it and I

439
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is mad. And I message was like,

440
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is epic, and You're like, I'm

441
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,160
Speaker 1: so fucking sorry. Like, I had no idea, and I'm like, Tara,

442
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 1: why are you sorry? I said, this is great, and

443
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 1: I saw that as an opportunity for both of us

444
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: to come together and collaborate. So then I came up

445
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 1: with this idea for us to do a skit as

446
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: an Instagram reel And when was this? When was it

447
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: that you came down?

448
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: God, I don't know. I've still got the scars on

449
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: my knee from when I fell over and the street

450
00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 2: going to outdo.

451
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 1: So we got together and we made this reel, which

452
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: you can still find on both of our ines.

453
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 2: Definitely watch it. We're pretty funny.

454
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: It is good, and so the whole skit is it's

455
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: me in my shop and then my phone dings and

456
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, proud Poppies coming to Newcastle. And

457
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 1: then I look a bit closer and then I realized

458
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: that the address is across the street, and I'm like

459
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: those bitches, and then I storm across the road like

460
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: it's a whole video thing, and I walk into Tara's

461
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: pop up shop and she's there like awkwardly baby, and

462
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: it's this like awkward moment. But then we come together

463
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 1: and we stand each other around we're skipping down the

464
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: street and then I'm in her store and you come

465
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: to mine, and then it was just this like video

466
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 1: about women supporting women in those things that people just.

467
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 2: Wouldn't expect us to be friends.

468
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: See, well, I'm all for that. Like even if you're

469
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: two business owners in the same sort of industry, yeah,

470
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: come together. Yeah, Like with more people, there's more power

471
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,639
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. And I would love more businesses that

472
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: are even similar businesses to come together and support one another.

473
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: Like how you say you're in all these exclusive groups,

474
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm missing out.

475
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: I know you've got all these sound like a wank, no,

476
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: Like in e commerce, there's so many communities that you know,

477
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: you just have to get your own newcastle, so you're

478
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 2: very limited with that.

479
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 1: In my own bubble, you're in your own bubble.

480
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: You are your own exclusive groups. So you know, and

481
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: I think that I saw a quote that said, you know,

482
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: collaboration happens at the top, which is something when you're

483
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: confident in your brand. But also I guess when you're

484
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 2: doing things, Yes, we're running a business, but when you're

485
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: really passionate about it, then you're more open to collaboration.

486
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: Rather than competition.

487
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: Yes, and I love being connected with you and a

488
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: few other women that are in similar businesses to us,

489
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: and we share our ideas with each other. Yeah. The

490
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: other day I was at work with one of my

491
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 1: staff and I texted something to Marissa, who's from the

492
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: Laala By Club, which is another women's fashion brand, and Kim,

493
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: who I was sitting with at the time, She's like,

494
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 1: I love that you two are messaging each other things

495
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: like to help one another with your businesses. And I'm like, yeah,

496
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I'm all for that. I think we

497
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: should see more of that in our industry and in

498
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: all industries. What's the point of just like being out

499
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: there doing your own thing when you could be.

500
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: Connected lonely it's really lonely.

501
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: It's great to catch up over a wine and talk shit. Definitely,

502
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: before we came into the studio, we sat outside with

503
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 1: our ice. We didn't sit outside, we sat inside because

504
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: it's freezing without slack. Because when I love that, I'm

505
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: an iced drink person all year round, even just fresh.

506
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: Have you had a Marcher, Yes, and the much I

507
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: don't even know how to say that I love.

508
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: But I've only had a much at my cafe, and

509
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: I know it's good. I've never tried one outside.

510
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 2: I only ever had one, and I'm like, yeah, I

511
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 2: drink much like.

512
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: It's a very big trend at the moment, isn't it.

513
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: But when we were outside, we were chatting, and you

514
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: were talking about how you feel like you don't have

515
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: enough time to do anything, live, to live and to

516
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: do all the things that you want to do, and

517
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: you've got all this shit going on, but you just

518
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: want to focus on growing the business. And I think

519
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: I can definitely relate to that as well as probably

520
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: all about business owner and entrepreneur listeners, is that you

521
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 1: just always have that feeling of not being able to

522
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: do anything.

523
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: To do list is never done it. What's the point

524
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: of even having to do just to roll it over

525
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: to the next day.

526
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm just going to move those to the next day

527
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: and the next day and the next day. But one

528
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: thing that I guess fascinates me and something that I

529
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: have an experience that I'd love to hear your experience on,

530
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 1: is how do you juggle doing everything that you do

531
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 1: running your business, having all these stuff, all these pop

532
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: up shops going all around the country, and you also

533
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: are a mum of two?

534
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: Yes, I have the children. Yes, I have the children.

535
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: Did you have your kids once Proud Poppy had started

536
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: or before?

537
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: So I had Brody. So my son is six, he

538
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 2: was little, yeah, and then Charlie was during during.

539
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you find that?

540
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: At the start with Brody, well, it kind of was.

541
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: We were in COVID and lockdown, so it was very

542
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: very different. But with Charlie. I so Charlie's two and

543
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: a bit. I was booked in for an induction. So

544
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 2: when they make the baby come for those listening and

545
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 2: Britney teach me everywhere, and I was booked in for

546
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 2: an induction. So the day and that was say, the Wednesday,

547
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: the day before I was back to back with meetings.

548
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm gonna get my shit done.

549
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: And I went right up and took the day before.

550
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the baby came a day early.

551
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: Didn't she? Yeah, so rude, so serush with my plans.

552
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: Luckily she came really fast. So then I was literally

553
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: on zoom calls in the birthing suite and the midwives

554
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: would come in and I was like, I'm just in

555
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: a meeting and I think I just thought I was

556
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: like kidding, but I was like, I'm actually on a call,

557
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: like the baby was out, but there was still He's.

558
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 1: Just chilling next to you and you're on a call

559
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: straight away.

560
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was booked Dar, I had a lot

561
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: going on.

562
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: You are hustling.

563
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: It was wild. So anyway, I wanted to get through

564
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: because I really wanted to try and have two weeks

565
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: off with my new one just too Yeah, but I didn't.

566
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: I ended up. I think I ended up going into

567
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Speaker 2: the office on the day on the way home stop,

568
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: which yeah, it was. It was a lot, So I've

569
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: always been really busy. It's definitely harder with Charlie than

570
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: what it was with Brodie, just because of the growth

571
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: and the expansion the business had seen. And I really

572
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: wanted to be like more present because I definitely have

573
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: regrets from when Brody was little, like really little, about

574
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,959
Speaker 2: not being as present because that was when you know,

575
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: I was doing all the product uploads I was driving

576
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: into the city because I didn't want to pay twenty

577
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 2: five dollars for my box of freight to be delivered

578
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: to me, so I drive in to get it to

579
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: set it funny, like you.

580
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: Know, when you're starting out of business, like that example

581
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: that you just gave the things that you eventually learned

582
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: that it's better to just pay for.

583
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so your time.

584
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: Can Yeah you can spend your time on other things.

585
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can. But I think at the time,

586
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: like I didn't have the money, so everything went back in.

587
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 2: But definitely now, like I always look at outsourcing what

588
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm not good at, especially all what's going to take

589
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: me heaps of time because it's not a good use

590
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 2: of my time. You really have to manage your time.

591
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and how do you manage that? Not Wow, I'm

592
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: wanting some advice here.

593
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 2: Not, well, I have a to do list and another

594
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: to do.

595
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: List, and then you have the to do list for

596
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: your kids.

597
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: For the to do list, Yes, yeah, because.

598
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: I feel like I know obviously know nothing about being

599
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: a mum, but like I can only imagine that being

600
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: a mum is a full time job and a half

601
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: and more.

602
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really lucky, Like we've got my mum helps

603
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: with the kids, So I don't have anything against nanny's

604
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: But I think that it was my regrets of not

605
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: being as present with Brody, like not his hands on,

606
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 2: Like it's still when I say that he was in

607
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: the office sleeping, importer cribs and stuff with me. But

608
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 2: it's just that mum gelt mums or no, it's mum Guelt.

609
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, even when I was emergency nursing,

610
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: if I got a night shift on Christmas, I wouldn't

611
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: be at Christmas. I would be miss birthdays. But it's

612
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: because I feel like I'm choosing this life. When nursing

613
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: was like, this is your roster, this is what you

614
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: have to do, so no one ever questioned it. Where

615
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: now I'm like, well, I'm actually choosing this, which is

616
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: just not right. But it's just a mental thing. Yeah.

617
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: So my mum actually helps as nanny, but the kids

618
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: just think it's grandma.

619
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: It's actually a nanny.

620
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Monday to Friday she helps in the morning

621
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: till we get home from work, like my son's at

622
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: school and Charlie goes to daycare a few days. But

623
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: she just helps keep things, you know, my shit together

624
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: a little bit.

625
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you could do it all if

626
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: you didn't have the help of your mum.

627
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 2: I could, but Charlie would be in full time care

628
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: as well, and I like, I love her daycare and

629
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 2: I've got nothing against that, like Brody was in full

630
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: time care, but I just didn't want to do that

631
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: this time around. I definitely still think it's hard, just

632
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: like if they're unwell, sometimes I can't stay home with

633
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: them and all I want to do is cuddle up

634
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 2: with them on the couch, or you know, if I've

635
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: got a call, or if I have to go to

636
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: cans or you know, pop up shop because I don't

637
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: have the staff and we've committed to it. You know,

638
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 2: that's really hard.

639
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: Because you go to all of your pop up shops

640
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: right like you're there.

641
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have most of them, most of them. Yeah,

642
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: I probably will have to step back from doing that

643
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: a little bit. But I still I love getting out

644
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: there and meeting the community, so I don't want to

645
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: lose that aspect. But because I do so much in

646
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: the business, if I go to a pop up shop Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday,

647
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: I lose four days because I work on the weekends.

648
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: I feel you, you know.

649
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: So I'm still catching up from a month ago when

650
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: we're in Adelaide.

651
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm still recovering from Boxing Day last year. Let me

652
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: tell you, I'm still trying to get over that I

653
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: think that's one of the hard things when you are

654
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: a business owner, as well as learning that you do

655
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: need to step away from certain things. And not that

656
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Speaker 1: I have mum guilt or anything like that, but I

657
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Speaker 1: think I get like business owner guilt.

658
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all relative.

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Speaker 1: You know. When we open new stores, I'm always there

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Speaker 1: for the opening, but I'm there for a couple of

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Speaker 1: days or maybe a few days. And every store that

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Speaker 1: we've opened, I've been there less and less and less,

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Speaker 1: Like I be there for the time that I know

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Speaker 1: I need to be and then I know I need

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Speaker 1: to go. Whereas when we opened our second store in Sydney,

666
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Speaker 1: I work there for like fourteen days straight because I

667
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Speaker 1: was like I need to be here, like I can't

668
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Speaker 1: just go home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you want to be there too.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a really hard thing. It's like you want

671
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Speaker 1: to be on the ground doing all the nitty gritty things. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but then you've also got like to run the company.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, the boring stuff, the boring stuff that

674
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Speaker 2: no one else can do. So as fun as it

675
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: is to spend as much time in the stores and

676
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: pop ups, you've got to do the real shit.

677
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Speaker 1: Otherwise you're going home and getting on your otherwise again

678
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Speaker 1: shopery loans and you haven't meetings in the birthing suite.

679
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Speaker 1: What would be your advice? What would be your advice

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Speaker 1: to anyone out there that, let's say, is a mum

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Speaker 1: and they're starting up a business or they're in business

682
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Speaker 1: for a couple of years and they're trying to juggle

683
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Speaker 1: it all and scale a business, but you know, be

684
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Speaker 1: there as a mom, and what would be your overall

685
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: advice to them.

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Speaker 2: The best piece of advice I've ever been given was

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Speaker 2: from one of my old next door neighbors who had

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Speaker 2: five kids.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: I was just like, how the hell do you do it? Like,

691
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Speaker 2: I'm about to have another one. I can't even can't

692
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 2: even manage one. Now I'm gonna have another one. And

693
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Speaker 2: the best thing she ever said to me, And at

694
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Speaker 2: the time, I was like, that's so weird, but it

695
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: resonates was lower your standards so and you what. Yeah,

696
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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, weird, but whatever, But I love her.

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Speaker 2: I love her. If she ever listens to this, I

698
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: love her. But she knows exactly what I mean. But

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Speaker 2: you know, you as a mom, especially if you're a

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00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: first time mum, like I'm definitely more relaxed as a

701
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: second second time round. But you just have this. You

702
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: put such a high amount of pressure on everything being

703
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: perfect and having all your ducks in a row, and

704
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, doing everything to one hundred percent, and all

705
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna do is stretch yourself. So you really just

706
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: need to prioritize what's actually important. Time Block your time,

707
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: even if that means, like I know this sounds terrible,

708
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: but time block the time that you're going to spend

709
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: with your kids so that you're present. There's no point

710
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: having time with them and being on your phone or

711
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: being on emails because it's not actually quality time. So

712
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: block out that time so when you get home five

713
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: o'clock whatever time it is, phones away until they're in

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Speaker 2: bed and then you can really be present. Because if

715
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: you're going to try and do work and you're trying

716
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: to be present and be with them and do all

717
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 2: this stuff, you're not going to be a good mum

718
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: and you're not going to get you done with.

719
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Speaker 1: Your work if it's going to not be right anywhere.

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Speaker 2: So you might as well block your time. So lower

721
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Speaker 2: your standards. Don't try and do everything at once, don't

722
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: try and keep all the balls in the air because

723
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Speaker 2: something's going to fall, and chances are it'll probably be you,

724
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: which is something that you want to try to prevent

725
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: because you need to be a happy mum.

726
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Speaker 1: You've got to put yourself first.

727
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Speaker 2: You do have to put yourself first, and it's not selfish,

728
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: because if you don't look after yourself, then you can't

729
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: run the business and you can't keep the children alive.

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Speaker 1: I love that advice.

731
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Speaker 2: See it's actually good advice.

732
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Speaker 1: First you thought that's lower your standards. Everyone, lower your standards.

733
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Speaker 2: Stop trying to be We can't have everything to everyone

734
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 2: all the time, and just do the bloody best you can.

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Speaker 2: I love that. Thanks.

736
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Speaker 1: This has been so good to have you on.

737
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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. It's been so fun.

738
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Speaker 1: You've been absolutely natural. Oh I feel thanks. This has

739
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Speaker 1: been your episode the Blonde Bobs. It is everyone needs

740
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: to love with their standards and get a bob. Power Bobs,

741
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: Power Bobs. My overall takeaway from my episode with you

742
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Speaker 1: today has been don't get a loan. What would be

743
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: your advice around that if you could give anyone some

744
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: last We always end big Business with a tip of

745
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: the week, but maybe we can make it about taking

746
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: out loans, right, What would be your advice when it

747
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 1: does come to businesses and being tempted to take out

748
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Speaker 1: a loan.

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Speaker 2: I think that there's no room for ego in business.

750
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Speaker 2: You need to leave your ego at the door. So

751
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: the reason that I took out the loan was because

752
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: I didn't want to admit that I'd fucked up and

753
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 2: I'd made this big mistake and we were going to

754
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 2: have to scale back. If I had my time again,

755
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 2: i'd scale right back, pull in, stay strong, build that

756
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: foundation back up again and go again. I've got the

757
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 2: brand to be able to do that. But my ego

758
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: took over.

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Speaker 1: Very interesting.

760
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No one wants to admit that they've made a mistake,

761
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 2: you know, and especially in modern day business, which I

762
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 2: just wish there was more people that spoke about it.

763
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: No one wants to admit that they've failed, but so

764
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: many of us have done it at one stage or another.

765
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: It happens all the time. So leave your ego at

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Speaker 2: the door.

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Speaker 1: Mine's outside. Good. Oh this has been so good chatting

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Speaker 1: with you, Tara. You've been absolute natural and I couldn't

769
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Speaker 1: be more grateful that you have quite literally flown from

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00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: the gold coast to come and be on big business.

771
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: What else would I be doing?

772
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: The one hundred and ten things on your true?

773
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: It is true.

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Speaker 1: Surely you're going to make some good use of your

775
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: time in city.

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00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: You've got a bit to do.

777
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: You're going to go somewhere else after this.

778
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: I am yeah, go get a many petty.

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00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: Nice There's actually just a place around the corner that

780
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: I've been one day. It was actually pretty good.

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00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: Check it out. Thanks for having me.

782
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: Where can everyone find you? Before we head off.

783
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: At the manny Panny.

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Speaker 3: Panny, everyone can foss the petty place around the corner

785
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 3: where you'll be so you can chat with us at

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Speaker 3: Proudpoppyclothing dot com dot au.

787
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 2: We also have a store in Dorian in Victoria, Rabina

788
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Speaker 2: Town Central in Queensland and opening soon into Wombo and Queensland.

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Speaker 1: How exciting. And you have a personal account too if

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Speaker 1: anyone wants to follow that.

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00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 2: It's just Tara McKeon Tara Underscore. McKeon underscore. I think

792
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: I love it. I'm not as good as at that

793
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: stuff as you.

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00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: But your post. I like what you post. I love

795
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Speaker 1: that you just keep it absolutely real. I feel like

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00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: what you see is what you get with you on

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00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: Proud Poppy and on your personal account. I feel like

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00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: we're very similar in a.

799
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Speaker 2: Very similar and I think that's why we get along,

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00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: because we're Bogans.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Thanks Tara, No worries,