1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:01,400 Speaker 1: Much on his mind. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 2: Michael Voss dealing with death threats ahead of tomorrow night's 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: Round eighteen opening game against the reigning premier. 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: Collingwood's Big Guns return to the training track after illness 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 3: sweeps through the club for Friday Night Footy and access 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 3: all areas. 7 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: Simard Horse take us in the four walls of how 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: the umpires go about adjudicating our game. 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 4: We've talked about this, step into it, embrace all. 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Of it in the room and NT it's unedifying for 11 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: a senior coach to do that. 12 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: They're on the side of cautia with the brain. Take 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: the man on. They played the best footy I've. 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 5: Ever seen at the start of a season, and in 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 5: said the president left. The couple older said, of course 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 5: they do. 17 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: It is the stuff that legends are made of. 18 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 5: What is holding the ball? 19 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 4: I don't think I could answer it clearly right now 20 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: that I could do something wrong, you know, And I 21 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 4: need to get and the board sacksually. 22 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: The fans lover and with no fans no through sixty 23 00:00:51,120 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: year old round at upon us. Welcome everyone. 24 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: They're dropping like flies here at Fox Footy. I had 25 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 2: Jiffordan Lewis all set to go and then down he went, and. 26 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, the wrong place at the wrong time. I've even 27 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: got his suit on, which is a bit bagging. 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: Are you filling it out? 29 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 5: No? Not in some spots. 30 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: Thirty years. 31 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 5: It took sorry, Jordy, thirty years. 32 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: It took me to get in in your just before 33 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 2: we get into we've got loss to get through. 34 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: Have you enjoyed it the transition. 35 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: It's been different. Yeah, it's it's less heavy the media stuff, my. 36 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: Coaching point of view. 37 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, the review process and the preview process as well. 38 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 5: It's a lot short. 39 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: Anything has a surprised about it? 40 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 3: No, No, if you do the work, I feel like 41 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: you can. You can stay connected and there's just no feedback. 42 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: That's what happens other than in the media. Yeah, that's 43 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: coming on machine. But actually it was my anniversary today, 44 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: which I didn't realize. My son rang me and said 45 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: happy ANNIVERSI and I thought, well, what's happened? But I 46 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: got the ass on this day last year? So what 47 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: to the day to the day? Yeah, I think this 48 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: is a press conference day when falling beautifully for you? 49 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, twelve months gone, click. 50 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: Twelve months down the track, it's all worked out, Okay, 51 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 2: he hosting a national television show. 52 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 5: We'll there we go. 53 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: The next Now, well, I've got lots of lots they 54 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: got through to get through tonight, we're going old school. 55 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: The Demon's are training Casey Field tonight, so they're going 56 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: to cross out there and have a chat with Simon 57 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: goodwhen they're training under lights, or they're supposed to be 58 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 2: training under lights. So I'm not sure what exactly went on. 59 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: I hope this is not a sign of things to 60 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: come from the Demons. The lights went out early in 61 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 2: the piece here, so. 62 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: What are you going to doing it for? I mean, 63 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: they've got a game at one ten. What with the 64 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: reason for a night session. We used to do this 65 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 3: a little bit normally when we play at night, but. 66 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: I assume they just changing it up a little bit, 67 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: trying to do something a little bit different. Horses go 68 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 2: and join us. Now he's filthy, he has, he's got 69 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: the opportunity. But you and he both have spent time 70 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: in the year Sanctum of the Umpires, which I'm looking 71 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 2: forward to talking about. 72 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: Was it how did you find it? First of all? 73 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: Different? Yeah, it was. 74 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: I'm not saying I'm going to be drinking the Umpire 75 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 3: kool aid on all the things they spoke about, but 76 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: I'm not sure wearing suits was necessary either. But it 77 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: was an interesting experience to see how much work they 78 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: actually do behind the scenes. That's the arc there, which 79 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 3: is magnificent at the back of Marvel and think it 80 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: was two games going on at once, there so a 81 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: lot of support staff for each game. 82 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 5: It was interesting. 83 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: J Z Clark, David Kingley Montagne coming up after this, 84 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: of course with first crack, I spoke about Lauren Wood 85 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: in a Hamburger's Kids. He's knocking down a few Jowie, 86 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: I saw that. Now neither so plenty to come tonight. 87 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: Let's get into the serious issue, and it is a 88 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: serious issue and the Michael Biss under pressure is no 89 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: question about that coach the cart footy club. They've been 90 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: a talking point front back page of the paper for 91 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: a long time. 92 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: But news today that there's been all. 93 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: Usked yesterday rather a death threat breaking by air man 94 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: jay Z. I can't wait to get your thoughts on this. 95 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 2: There's no better place to talk about it. I know 96 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: you understand the pressures that come with the job, but 97 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: this is beyond the pal There's no question that lack 98 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: of what spoke today. 99 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 6: So when you turn up on the weekend and I 100 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 6: do what I do, I do that for Carlton. I 101 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 6: do that for the next kid that's going to be 102 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 6: playing in the Carlton and Football Club jumper. I do 103 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 6: it so our football club can be you know, I 104 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 6: have this sustained success that we're all craving for, but 105 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 6: there's a way we need to behave and there's a 106 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 6: way that we need to go about it. And when 107 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 6: things are tough, you've got to show that support the 108 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 6: right way, not the wrong way. Now, if that's a 109 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 6: measure for some people on what it should look like, 110 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 6: then I'm sorry, you don't belong here, and we'll move 111 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 6: on and we'll make sure that we continue to bring 112 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 6: a supporter base that will support in the good times 113 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 6: and it will support in the bad and we'll continue 114 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 6: to support our people to be able to do that. 115 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 6: So for me, the conversation doesn't need to be anything 116 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 6: other than that, and it won't be for the next 117 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 6: six seven. 118 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: Weeks as well. 119 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 6: So I get just about different things about pressure of 120 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 6: the game and my job and you know what the 121 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 6: future looks like, Well, you know, ultimately I only need 122 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 6: to look across the fence to find out what inspires 123 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 6: me every single day, and we want to be the 124 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 6: best version of ourselves and that's how we're going to 125 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 6: do it. So that's what we're going to focus on. 126 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 5: No, we've all been through that stuff. I see there 127 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 5: was some death thread or something. Is that is that right? Yeah, 128 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: that's that's pretty average. 129 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 4: We've got no doubt he'd been doing the best job 130 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 4: that he can so, but that's just the world AFL 131 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 4: coaches living and stuff. 132 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's quite. 133 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Sad, isn't it. 134 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: Like this, there's a boundary line and then you step 135 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: over that and you've got your home life, and then 136 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: there's reality of like, come on, let's let's let's be 137 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 4: better than that as a society, you know, as a job, 138 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 4: he's doing a job and he's a great person, Michael. 139 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: And I don't know. 140 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 5: I hope he's going okay. 141 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 7: I've met some pretty strong, resilient characters in my time 142 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 7: in forty none more so than VOSSI. 143 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: It's sort of. 144 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 7: I'd expect that, you know that there'd be I mean, 145 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 7: that's a criminal offense that there, and there'd be criminal consequences. 146 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: But you know, there's a flow and effect. 147 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 6: The first thing you always think about is the person 148 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 6: beside you, or or the family member or the team, 149 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 6: you know, because there's a result of what I do. Yeah, 150 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 6: you appreciate there's an element of scrutiny that comes with that. 151 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 6: But then there's a there's a part that's completely unacceptable, 152 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 6: and I think we can all sort of agree that 153 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 6: that part is unacceptable and we don't tolerate that as 154 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 6: an industry. And so we leave that with the IFIL 155 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 6: integrity at the moment, and I expect a pretty forthright response, 156 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 6: great solidary. 157 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: And support for Michael voss from the coaching brethren, no 158 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: question about that, of which you're part of. 159 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: How brutal is this and does this surprise. 160 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 5: You a little bit? I mean, the one thing Vossy 161 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 5: doesn't want is pity. You don't want. 162 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: That's the worst feeling that to have people pity and 163 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: feel sorry for you, because you know you don't get 164 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 3: forced to do the job, that this has gone over 165 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 3: a certain line that you know it. 166 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: Really shouldn't be crossed. 167 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: But the actual pressures of a coach who's you know, 168 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 3: haven't met expectation, that's that's real. 169 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 5: Everyone goes through that. 170 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: If you around the game long enough, so but you 171 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: understand that guy. Yeah, yeah, we've probably started checking my 172 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 3: mail about four years ago, the old anthrax check just 173 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: in case it wasn't. 174 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 5: It was pretty read. 175 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: So the mail I got from the from the supporters 176 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: or whatever it was, it was pre opened a. 177 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: Right, So logistically there's just to make sure back that 178 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: comes through someone else's Yeah, yeah, some passionate supporters. But 179 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: then there's some ridiculous letters that get n I never 180 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: got to see them, but there was a few round 181 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: and then Voss, he's got to deal with a few things. 182 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: One one is obviously the team in the club and 183 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: doing his job, but there'd be someone in his family saying, listen, 184 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: you got to pull up, let's just get out of this, 185 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: let's just step aside, and it's not worth it. And 186 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: then there's another member of your family who say, you're 187 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: not quitting, don't you dare? 188 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 5: And I had that, did you? Yeah, my dad remember 189 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: saying it to me, You're not going anywhere. 190 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So when you were struggling and when the pressure 191 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: was out, it was real you had members of your 192 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: family suggesting, right, this is enough's enough. 193 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And you know mine went for three or 194 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: four years, to be honest, but I didn't get to 195 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: the levels of the supporter base at West Coast. Different 196 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: than Carlton, I must admit, having some success, there's a 197 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: bit of leeway as well, but dealing with the pressure 198 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: was probably more when it got personal in the media 199 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: in particularly the West. But what Boss's going through with 200 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: that piece around the crossing the line piece, that's another 201 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 3: level which I never got. 202 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 5: To really experience. 203 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: But what he's going through from a day to day operations, 204 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: trying to lead and be stoic, try and say the 205 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: right things and back the staff and players in. 206 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 5: He's got their backs all those things. 207 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: He's doing really well, but there'll be thoughts within his mind, 208 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: this is worth it and if you gets through this, 209 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: which I think he might, then it'll be a story 210 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: to tell down the track. And we've seen that with 211 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: some other coaches over the journey with Boma, Thompson and 212 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: Dimmer and these types have gone through a dip in 213 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: their careers and then they come through. 214 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 5: The other side. 215 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: But you also see people that don't get through it 216 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: and then life goes on. 217 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 5: Like I've just gone through last week. 218 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: I just want to back over to tell me about 219 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: your old man. How did that go? 220 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: If you're open to talking about it. I mean, your 221 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: father's huge, strong figure in your life. 222 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: So what was his message when it was well. 223 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: I just see you're not quitting and you're not Why 224 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: I spoke about it because I think it's time right 225 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: And he said, well you shouldn't. And then those influences 226 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: in your life are important, aren't they. And I was 227 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: trying to tell Dad I was on the back page 228 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 3: every day because he doesn't read the West Australian. But 229 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: working through that and in the end it's just footy. 230 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 3: You know, there's more to life, and your family is 231 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: really important how they handle things, because if there's a 232 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 3: family member that's really struggling, then that does creep in 233 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: your mind as well. So a lot going on with 234 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 3: Voss at the moment, personally, I'm sure, but he's putting 235 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: on a brave face. 236 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 5: He doesn't want the pity. 237 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: All he wants his boys to do is play well 238 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 3: this week and be competitive. 239 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: Alway thought, and then when you get the game day. 240 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: By the time you get the game day, you focus 241 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: solely on what's going to take place, and they've got 242 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: a big one and it's. 243 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: Against the Brisbane lines. 244 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: There running premium tomorrow night at Marvel stardiing teams are 245 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: in no wholesale changes. They panic Chincotta and durd and 246 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: come in. 247 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: Akers gets dropped, So that's a big one. 248 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: Evans as the omitted as well from a Brisbane lines 249 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 2: point of view, they get stronger. Big Oscar Macaton he 250 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: comes in first games. 251 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 5: So it's going to be a challenge, isn't it. 252 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: You know, so you think any player that saw Vossi 253 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: speak today, if they don't. 254 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 5: Bring maximum effort, there's something wrong. And for a while, well. 255 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 3: The last two weeks, that's what we haven't seen what 256 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: their DNA. At least they've been saying. They've been competitive 257 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 3: around the contest the clearances inside fifty differential. It's their 258 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: ball movement, their connection inside fifty that they've struggled at. 259 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,079 Speaker 3: But the effort hasn't been questioned. And since probably Port Adelaide, 260 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 3: the numbers don't look great with the metrics that you 261 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 3: live off in terms of pressure contested ball clearances. So 262 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: I suspect you'll go back to that. 263 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: How many times can you go back to it? 264 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 2: Well, for three weeks in a row, I reckon we've 265 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: all s out there and said, what do you want 266 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 2: to see? 267 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: If you want to see effort, leaf you see. 268 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 2: Effort and it was there against Collingwood, who I think 269 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 2: the effort was there for the first quarter in a bit, 270 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: but it wasn't sustained. 271 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 3: No, Well, there's effort, then there's talent, and you know 272 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: they're playing a side that's a premiership team, so let's 273 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: not let's keep a bit of reality in what's in 274 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,599 Speaker 3: front of them. That the inclusions the last two or 275 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: three weeks haven't blown me away, so it's not like 276 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 3: their full strength ready to go, but they've got to 277 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: get back to the minimum requirements, which Vossi stated about 278 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: a month ago that there's some parts of the game that. 279 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 5: Are working really well. 280 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: Now there's no parts, so they've got to get back 281 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: to the main strengths at which they hung the hat 282 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: on three weeks ago. 283 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Just a quick word on Brisbane. 284 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: They're just doing what they need to do and you know, 285 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: been fortunate enough to be in some sick sucessful ears 286 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: as a player and as a coach. You just do 287 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: what you've got to do to win. And if it's 288 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 3: a twenty point win, thirty point win, ten point win, 289 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 3: But eventually they've got to pull out that fifth gear 290 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: and really put a team away and leave a scar 291 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: is probably what we used to call it. Can you 292 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: actually put a team to the sword and leave a scar? 293 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: You've got no concerns with them though, No, well that's Thursday, 294 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: n Do you have concern No? 295 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 5: I don't. 296 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: I don't, but I always think it's the biggest challenge 297 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: in fort you to be able to come up and 298 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 2: win again after. 299 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 5: You doin they might have gone through that already. 300 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: At what point their response to put out a last 301 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: week gives you a great heart. It looked like for 302 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: the first ten or fifteen minutes you thought this Israel 303 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: know this fact that they're equivocating, and then they just 304 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: went back and reminded everybody. 305 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: The first half of the year is probably the bigger 306 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: worry I think in your PREMIERU. 307 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd be sharpening up now seven weeks ago. 308 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: And their health is the biggest factory speaking a health. 309 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: Bit of a health drama with the Magpies. As we said, 310 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: Josh DeCosta join us last night, I couldn't get there 311 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: as he more was coming. 312 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: He couldn't get Was. 313 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 5: He really crooked? We just didn't want to come on. 314 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: Well, let's have a listen to Craig mccra you don't 315 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: want to come on. Of course he wanted to come on. 316 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 5: He wasn't here. 317 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: He's the coach, Craig mccraye. Today. 318 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 4: It's probably been two weeks now, and we were probably 319 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 4: worse last week, to be honest, and we're just used 320 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: a bit of the old what we learned in the 321 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: old times of like don't come in if you're sick, 322 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 4: and it's not about policy. 323 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 5: Bobby Hill, will we see him? Mate? 324 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: True, Bobby's sick, Bob Shultz, see, yeah, he's he trained 325 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: really really well. Today. We're wrapped for the way he's prepared. 326 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 4: He was ill last week, which really was the only 327 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: reason he did play. He was ready to really push 328 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: the boundaries of that. 329 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: But he'll play this week yet. 330 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: So last week the issue, Darcy Boy, Decos Boys, Darcy 331 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: Moore all trained today, Lucky Shields still cyber, we're going 332 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: to return. 333 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: Still know, Bobby Hill going for nine straight? 334 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we nine straight too often, No, And it's 335 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 3: been pretty impressive. Like it's not based on talent, but 336 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: they've got talent. So it's a system based process they 337 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 3: live by on Mondays, they're not showing the flashy things. 338 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 3: They're showing the knock ons, the team ethos around the 339 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: predictability that down the line plays they do well, the 340 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: help site support. From a back line point of view, 341 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: it's not built off talent, but to have talent to 342 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: complement your system is it's great to have. And can 343 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: you go through a full season? Who's the last team 344 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: that went through the whole season without a dip is 345 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: probably a good question I asked. 346 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: Spoke to Joey yesterday. 347 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: I mean, one of the great things that Craig McRae 348 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: has got in his back pocket is who's not playing 349 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: and who has to come back between now and the 350 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: end of the year. 351 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 3: It's going to be a really good conversation for them 352 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: to if they have that health, because that's what they 353 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: haven't had in the last two or three years, and 354 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: all of a sudden they come back and or the 355 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: last year anyway, and. 356 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 5: They've got some good decisions to make, all. 357 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: Right, thanks to Ossie Broadband. Let's get to our D 358 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: day scenario. 359 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 5: Who have you got a D Day? 360 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: I've got Gold Coast that's this big game for them, 361 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: Like this time every year they've been around the mark 362 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: and way back to when at Gary Ablett was playing, when. 363 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 5: They were nine and four or something. 364 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: And I think this game now is talk about the 365 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: big Boy month, and I know Dimmer will decide when 366 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 3: that is. I got the feeling this is the first 367 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: game of a very difficult block that will define this season. 368 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 5: So this would be huge for them. It's a home game. 369 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: They've got everything happening up there on top of Collingwood 370 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: playing there, so it looks wet that. 371 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 5: Wet and sticky and humid. 372 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: So that might suit them. 373 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: We looked at some. 374 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 3: Vision about them compared to Richmond a few weeks ago, 375 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: the very similar style with the Ford hanble and the 376 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 3: aggressive way they bounce off half back. So looking forward 377 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 3: to see what they do. What about you? 378 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: I love it. 379 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's perfect timing for the 380 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: Gold Coast Suns. And Damion Harbwitt spoke on this today. 381 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 8: Is this the biggest game in Sun's history? Well, I've 382 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 8: only been here rating months, so every Aska coach, every 383 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 8: game is a big game. Being perfectly honest, I know 384 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 8: that there'll be a lot of talk around, a lot 385 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 8: of shatter around it sort of thing. Hopefully it's the 386 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 8: beginning of a lot of big games for people of 387 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 8: the son. 388 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 5: So you know, we think we're we've. 389 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 8: Got a pretty special group that's capable of. 390 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 5: Some really good things. 391 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 8: So you know, hopefully a lot of Suns fans get 392 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 8: out there and show some support, but more importantly jump 393 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 8: on board. I think this side is really really capable 394 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 8: of doing some pretty impressive things in the not too 395 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 8: distant future. 396 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: Can't mate record crowd expect that a twenty five thousand 397 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 2: If you're there, Nitro Circus is going to be involved. 398 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 5: As Nitro Circus an elephant, is it? 399 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: I know they're your favorites. They're the motorbikes, you do 400 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: the flips and all that stuff. 401 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: Why why why? 402 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: Because it's an experience, Adam who this is the whole experience. 403 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: Not everyone's going to be is enamored with? 404 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 5: Was that on the ground. 405 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if this is going to be in 406 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: the center circle. But look at that. Tell me you're 407 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: not impressed? 408 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 5: Both, No, that's I'm not. 409 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: Well, someone will be maybe the case. 410 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 5: What's your D day? 411 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: My D day is free. 412 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: I'm going for the dock. I'm not going for them. 413 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: I think the Dockers have got I think it's great 414 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 2: that they're playing hawth On it home under some pressure 415 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: SCG loss Skin Sydney. Expectations are there and it's real 416 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: and they you know, you've been as close to these 417 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: team as anyone they and Justin Longmire would be expected 418 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: to play finals this year. 419 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. They lose to Collingwood by thirteen points. 420 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 3: They win six in a row and they have a 421 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 3: good showing against Sydney that I know, we all know 422 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: where they're coming from. And now it's like the pressure 423 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 3: is back on. I know they're ninth and that's the problem, 424 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: but the form line has been pretty good. 425 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 2: Yeahs They've got a Hawthorne on Collingwood the next two weeks. 426 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 5: That's that's why it's real. 427 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: Then too, the Hawthorne game at home, the Collingwood game away, 428 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 2: So they need to sort of park this one and 429 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: get a win, I would think, and then worry about 430 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: what's coming for the rest. 431 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: Of the way. 432 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: Great games coming up, some great games coming. 433 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 5: Up this weekend and really look to it. 434 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to take a break. 435 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: Simon Goodwin is going to join us next from Casey 436 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: Field has been a regular part of IFL three sixty. 437 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 5: Journey this year, the Highs and the Lows. 438 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: They won five on the bounce there, they've lost five 439 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 2: on the bounce. 440 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: They've got a. 441 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: Month of footy ahead that I'm just smart, determined exactly 442 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: where they're going. 443 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: And then John Longmire, the horse that joined 444 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: Us, fascinating insight into the world of AFL umpiring