1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Thank you to all of our listeners who continue to 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: listen to us. Look, if you're enjoying the podcast, just 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: do us a favorite. Hit that follow button on your 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: podcast app right now. 5 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: It helps us bring your great. 6 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: New episodes and make sure that you won't miss anything. 7 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Whether you're on Spotify, Apple Podcast or anywhere else. Just 8 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: tap follow or subscribe and stay in the loop. Anyway, guys, 9 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: cheers start however you lost you know, hughsy Jack might 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: pull me up a little bit. I've got I tend 11 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: to wheeze get We get complaints through from people. 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 3: What are the odds of that? Look, who's ringing me? 13 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: That's Joey Andrew Joey. 14 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Have you seen Fabe brother recently? 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 4: I haven't seen him for a while. 16 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: It's sort of just skims across society. 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 3: It's a busy viewod for him through origin period. 18 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Well apparently yeah. 19 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: In fact, it's so busy oftentimes he has to have 20 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: two weeks off work after it and go to the 21 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Maldives to surf. I mean it's hard work. You know, 22 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 1: people think playing is hard. I mean to commentate, that's 23 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: where the action is. 24 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: Hugh'sy. 25 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: This is an incredibly busy couple of weeks for you. 26 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: So what's a what's a week entail the week leading 27 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: into the beneaf of brainking. 28 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, lots of great support Mattie, first and foremost, 29 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 4: the the NRL tidal wave of support which started about 30 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: seven years ago for Beanie for brain cancer around really 31 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: lifted us to a new level. It was just amazing. 32 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, just just I go to schools, I go 33 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 4: to workplaces. You know, there's a lot of schools doing beanies, 34 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 4: which is great. 35 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: I do. 36 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, looks good, looks good. 37 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: You should you should you have a sort of bringing 38 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: out a match, use salundation, do rag Maybe. 39 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: It almost looks like one right now. You might want 40 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: to retry that calm, maybe spin it around a little 41 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: bit as well. There we go there. 42 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 4: I did think of the balaclava range. 43 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: Really good coming up on the NBA news. 44 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: Lots of brand awareness, oh yeah, lots of great things 45 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 4: getting done and the NRL. Yeah, just it's just amazing. 46 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: So you know, gett into appearances, get into games on 47 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: the round, the networks all get behind us. It's crazy 48 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: but good. Crazy. 49 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: How many people you employed? Now? 50 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: We have four part time staff, which I'm very proud of. 51 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 4: I'm a full volunteer. I tell people flexible hours, but 52 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 4: the hourly rate needs a review. 53 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, gotcha, now what you're talking about? 54 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So I'm very proud to be a volunteer 55 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 4: and we're run by the big heart of volunteers. They 56 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: pack beanies, they go to go to shops and sell 57 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 4: our stuff. There's so many volunteers that make this go 58 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 4: around and I think people like that and they get 59 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: that that the money is going to the right places. 60 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: There's no brand ambassador and all these different tags. There's 61 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: this four amazing staff at Hamilton that you get it 62 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 4: all done. 63 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: It's incredible. Like the last ten years, you guys have 64 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: sold over a million beanies, tens of millions of dollars. 65 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: And the big thing is in rugby league to everyone 66 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 3: gets around it. Like you know, I've twenties reserve grade, 67 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: you know, all sorts of grades, and every grade during 68 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: that week always chuck sabeni on, no matter what team 69 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 3: they are. It's a really proud round for rugby league. 70 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 4: I think it's become a great tradition that I think 71 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: everyone in rugby league agrees on. It doesn't happen too often. Yeah, 72 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter there's always blues Queensland, there's always these 73 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 4: rivalries and that. But I feel like everyone is in 74 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: the grands that brain cancer needs a bit of a help. 75 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 4: And I think it's been a great tradition and there's 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 4: probably kids now that would never remember nothing else but 77 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 4: Beanie around and I think it's just part of the 78 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 4: fabric now. And you know, nothing that we take for granted, 79 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: but it's it's super. 80 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: I stopped to I actually forgot to declare something is 81 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: that people? Jack Johns is he's away from behind the 82 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: edit tweet and cutting up. He today's gone from producer 83 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: to star at the show. Younger bloke Cooper Hughsey is 84 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: in Darwin Cooper exactly Cooper and he. 85 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Actually make he is filthy. 86 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: He keeps, he keeps calling Jack and I are going, 87 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: Oh listen, make the conversation with Hughesy just short. I 88 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 1: just talk on like the beney for brain cancer. Don't 89 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: talk about his career, wait till I am back. 90 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 4: He died. 91 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: Let's dive real deep. 92 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got a massive poe Like you know, you're 93 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: a favorite. You're one of the favorite guests as well. 94 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: One of the blokes have known us since we're kids. 95 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 4: So well, funny, Jack, I was thinking this morning that 96 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: we won the Grand Final in ninety seven, and I 97 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: felt like it was a week later. We had Jack's 98 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 4: wet the baby's head, that's right. Yeah, so we all 99 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 4: gather at the. 100 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: Wash tub, was it? 101 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: I can't. 102 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 4: I think I feel like a few a few blurry times. 103 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 4: But we all assembled, big celebration. I remember I had 104 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 4: to work the next day. I went massive night and 105 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: I was working at tube Makers. The boys all hit 106 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 4: me away and tucked me into a little room and 107 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: I had had a sleep, So I celebrated. I celebrated. Yeah, 108 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 4: we celebrated you pretty hard, mate. 109 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 3: Thanks mate, I really appreciate it. Surely wasn't the like 110 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 3: fantastic grand filing is one and a couple of weeks earlier? 111 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: Was it that was in the. 112 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: Background ten days earlier? Jack? 113 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: And you know, for people who listened to that when 114 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: what you just say said there is highly unusual these days, 115 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: well it just doesn't happen. You play a Grand Final 116 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: and then a few days later you've got to go 117 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: back to work in tube makers and let people know 118 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: tube makers was like it was a stool industry. 119 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, it was Maddie and Darren Albott was the same. 120 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 4: He was an apprentice electrician and I was a fitter 121 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: and turner. So we would work and then as I 122 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 4: started gettingto first grade, we had to your clock in 123 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: as you go in. Then we'll clocking out and going 124 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 4: and do kicking and catching practice and coming back on 125 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: and off. And I did a bit of shift work, 126 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 4: so I would do night shift, then i'd go straight 127 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: to the gym, then I'd go back to Curry and sleep. 128 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: Then i'd come back in the afternoon and train, go 129 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 4: back to Curry and rest and then do it all again. 130 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: Incredible. 131 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: It was good because it was giving me that mental 132 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 4: toughness and you know, to really appreciate. People used to 133 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: say you're always smiling, You're always happy, because I was. 134 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: I was living a dream and it was a lot. 135 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 4: The dream was a long way away for a fair 136 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 4: time for me, but then it changed really quickly. But 137 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 4: I was getting ready for work life, which was a 138 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 4: fitter machinist, an average one at that, but that's what 139 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 4: I was doing. 140 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: Now. 141 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: What was the reaction when you and Albi, Darren Albert 142 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: who was the hero and that scholled that final try 143 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: what was the reaction when you boys walk back into 144 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: the next shift after winning the Grand Final? 145 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: Look, it was it was you know, this is a tradesman. 146 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: Just blokes, blue collar blokes. They just they loved it. 147 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 4: You know, we had hundreds of blogs and they were, 148 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: you know, just having fun with them and talking about 149 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: it and they all wanted to know about it. And 150 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: I still run into these blokes now and they all say, 151 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: we work with you at Chievemaker's House, Albi and all that, 152 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 4: And it was really great times to be right in 153 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 4: amongst the community. Yeah, you know, whilst that rugby league 154 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: bubble was there, but I was still in that. 155 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll check Denny, my late brother in law. Yeah, 156 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: he he worked with you at Tube Maka's the ooce 157 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: of sale. 158 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: Time. 159 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: Saw hughs again today because he made he was a minimalist, 160 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: Yeah he was. Danny was the sort of guy I 161 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: loved him because he's I've never met a person who 162 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: was so comfortable in silence and he just can't come in. 163 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: He just walked in and said, may. 164 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: Want to be or anything, Danny Now, I'm sweet And 165 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: as much as big a conversation I had was like 166 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: been working with Usley lately. Oh you Dan as he young, bloody, 167 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: good bloke us conversation. 168 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: Just a context to Danny looked exactly like Red Dagan 169 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: to a point where I think it was it might 170 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: have been Danny's fiftieth or sixtieth and Dad rocked up 171 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: dressed as Red d Reagan as his brother. He was 172 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: a good man, Danny, He was a. 173 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 4: Good I was thinking, Maddie. We did the in Search 174 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: of the Holy Grail, a short a short video, remember 175 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: that that was. 176 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: That was for the Newcastle Short Film Festival and they 177 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: asked us to do and that's where Red Drag. 178 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 179 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: So Crowey was the narrator and he assembled groom. Joey 180 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: was Bruno Snideley. It was a card shark. He was sinister. 181 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 4: He had this big mustache, a real sinister character. Then 182 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: there was reg I throw back to the eighties and 183 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 4: there was me and Matt Gidley were two sailors on Shorty. Yeah. 184 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 4: We're all searching for Holy Greiley, which was which was 185 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 4: the off this cup We had that hidden away and 186 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: we were going through Newcastle searching for this piece. 187 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: Of We had to put all our own soundtrack on, 188 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: so we had Stevie wonder. 189 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: It was so good. But Maddie walks into the pub 190 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: and I think this is where Regeme started, and he 191 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: just come up with this great dialogue. I'll have some 192 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: crisps TB and some rollies. Please don't. 193 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: Get a at a two years old, a packet of 194 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: smokes and a packet of crisps. 195 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 4: Was born. And then we're filming all this stuff. It 196 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 4: was so fun, but I think that just showed that, Yeah, 197 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: they're great fun we used to have. 198 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: When did you hide it? 199 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: Where did you just hide the cup? 200 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 4: The Obeliska is the highest point in Newcastle. We just 201 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 4: planned it was going to be planted up there and 202 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: we just filmed as we went up there someone so someone. 203 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 3: Could have went past and holy fuck, yeah screen, I 204 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 3: hope someone's guarding it at least Husy. 205 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: Okay, just I want to ask you this question Feusy 206 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: and the diagnosis originally, and I can imagine you've said 207 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: this million times, but people will listen, be listening to 208 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: this story for the very first time. So Mate, your 209 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: flying life scale fantastic. The news must have hit you 210 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: like a ton of bricks. What were the first signs? 211 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was thirty six, Maddie flying high, feeling fit. 212 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 4: Been out of footy for five or six years, but 213 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: life was going great. Had three children under ten, beautiful wife. Yeah, 214 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: everything was great. Then I just had headaches for a 215 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 4: day and it put me in bed, which was unusual. 216 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 4: And then I woke up the next morning headaches again. 217 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: Kiraly said, nah, you need to just go and get 218 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: this checked out. And I thought, oh, well, this is 219 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 4: a migrain, not a problem. We'll get a couple of 220 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: tablets and keep going. And the doctor was a bit 221 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: funny when I went and saw him, and he said 222 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 4: we might just go get a scan. So I ducked 223 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 4: in and got a scan just on my own, and 224 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 4: that was the last ever scan I've had. Alarm. Kirale 225 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 4: has been with me ever since because that scan. From 226 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 4: that moment, everything changed. It's like, quick, get everyone in. 227 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: You know you've got to You've got a tumor, and 228 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: you just go what You've got got a brain tumor, 229 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, so your life can change really quick. And 230 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 4: out of that waited a couple of weeks. Then John 231 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 4: hunt a hospital and had the tumor removed. And you're 232 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 4: still hopeful. I got that positive mindset of it's not 233 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 4: a it's not cancer. We'll just get it out and 234 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: play on. But then the doctor took us in a 235 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 4: week later and simply said to us, you know, I'm sorry, Mark, 236 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 4: you've got a high grade brain cancer. And that's the 237 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 4: words we just couldn't hear. We got Todd you you 238 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 4: just can't hear that there's different grades. But so yeah, 239 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 4: definitely life, life really changed. That's husic. 240 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: When a person gets a diagnosis, oftentimes the doctor will 241 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: present the scenarios and just go right out at best 242 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: and worst. What was the At worst. 243 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: We had a go We had to say that you 244 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 4: get your affairs in order, you need to sort that out. 245 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 4: There's just no guarantees here with what you've got. It 246 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 4: was really it was pretty tough and not the stuffing 247 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 4: out of us and Kiraly. So we went and saw 248 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: the experts, some other people in Sydney who were top 249 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 4: of their field, and they gave us a bit of 250 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 4: hope with a few readings out of my tumor that 251 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: they said, hey, there's some really good hope with this. 252 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 4: We're finding this, this percentage of this or you know, 253 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: there's all these different readings in a chum. So, yeah, 254 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: that just give us a bit of hope, and that 255 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 4: was enough for me to sort of pick up the 256 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: ball and start running again. 257 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: Oftentimes, people, I think, at the most difficult moments or 258 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, I heard people say when they're putting a 259 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: life threatening situation like you were, they have moments of 260 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: just perfect clarity, you know, and how they look back 261 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: at their lives and whatnot. What would there any moments 262 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: like that for you. 263 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: You do a lot of thinking and whether it's forward 264 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 4: thinking or look thinking back, so you do reflect a lot. 265 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 4: And I had a lot of time to reflect. You know, 266 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 4: you can't drive your car for eight months, you're not 267 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 4: leaving the harm too often, so you're doing a lot 268 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 4: of reflecting and thinking. And it was Yeah, I was 269 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: certainly grateful for the life I'd had, but I just 270 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: love life so much. I just wanted to keep going 271 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 4: and do a lot more of it, you know. So 272 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: there was a really anxious feel about it, really really anxious. 273 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: So it was a really just tough time. And that's 274 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: the way your family and friends, they or react different 275 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 4: and knocks them around as well, so your whole life 276 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: gets gets flipped. 277 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: And sorry, Jack and Jack just dropped his notes. They 278 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: feel free to pick him up. 279 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: Brother, I've got to memorize man. Okay, actually I got 280 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: I do actually have something for his usual because you 281 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: know something similar like I've had a few beers with 282 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: your son, Zack, your oldest. He's a good fella and 283 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 3: you know, obviously that night had to take care of 284 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: Crowley more than Zach. But yeah, I always think about 285 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 3: these sorts of things when people get bad news like this, 286 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: Like Tri Trish was diagnosed with cancer twenty twelve, and 287 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: she always says, now and I look back at it, 288 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: and I would have been around a bit older than 289 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 3: Za would have been, about thirteen fourteen at the time, 290 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: and she always says, I got quite intrinsic after that, 291 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 3: like for that through that period, especially when she was 292 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 3: going through chemo and whatnot. What about Zach, like as 293 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: the eldest of the family, got Dane and Bonnie as well, Like, 294 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: did he wear a lot of that. 295 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was only young, but he was having a 296 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: little bit of childhood epilepsy at the time and that 297 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: was bringing that on a lot. Yeah, so there's a 298 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 4: lot more of that going on. Bring the ambulance a 299 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: few times, just everything was happening at once, and I 300 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 4: think it was the stress and the strain of what 301 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 4: it was going on would have caused a lot of that. 302 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: So but then the kids are a bit younger, and 303 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 4: then I quickly the positivity and the way I sort 304 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: of conducted myself help help helps everyone around you. And 305 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: I wasn't kicking stones. I was getting ready to launch 306 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: into a charity and fight back. Ecusey just last. 307 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: Before we move on to some of the good times 308 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: and stuff that you never done through the charity lot, 309 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: the tricks. 310 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: Status quo. 311 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: You've gone for skins today, a house things. 312 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, got a great scan. I'm so grateful. I have 313 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 4: one every about four months and go down the specialists 314 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 4: and you get that done. So yeah, it's always a relief. 315 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm ten years down the track. I'm 316 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 4: so blessed and lucky. There's so many that don't get 317 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: the opportunities that I get. So I'm feeling fit, I'm 318 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: feeling energized. I'm here for a reason to really keep 319 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 4: kicking on and helping make a difference and give hope 320 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 4: to people with brain cancer. And with the NRL community 321 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: behind us, that's what we've done with. We've given some 322 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 4: real hope out there. 323 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: Can I ask you you to like you've done so well, 324 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: like ten years on, it's pretty incredible. Do you have 325 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: any tips of people out there that might be going 326 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: through it that you know changes to your lifestyle, minimalistic 327 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: sort of things that always help you in the day 328 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: to day. 329 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: I think simply I like to say, just make today count, 330 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: you know, don't worry about down the track. Can't change yesterday, 331 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: So just just try and do your best today, to 332 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 4: make the best day you can today. Then wake up 333 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: and do it again. But if you're continually dwelling on 334 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: the future or worrying about what's happened, it's going to 335 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: weigh where you're down. So I think that's just a 336 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 4: nice simple. 337 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: That's interesting what you say there too, Like do you 338 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: think that if you know it can be positive, it 339 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: can impact you a lot more negatively if you have 340 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 3: those negative, negative thoughts, whereas you've had a very positive outlook. 341 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 3: Do you think that positive outlooks actually had a physical 342 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 3: impact on you. 343 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 4: Oh, for sure, you know. I've looked up on it, 344 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: and we become our thoughts. So if you're always negative 345 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: and down, you're going to have to come across that person. 346 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 4: So I feel like you need to control your thoughts 347 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: a bit and really try and focus on being grateful, happy, 348 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: positive and makes a difference. 349 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: Well too hugely. 350 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: Through the Foundation, you've had plenty of good times, one 351 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: of which is every single year you've done that the trecks. 352 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: Yes to the players, what are you doing this year? 353 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to go across to Kakoda. We're going 354 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 4: to walk across and back. So it's going to be huge, Mattie. 355 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: So it's about two hundred k's. But the thing about 356 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 4: co Coda it's either up or down. It's even muddy, 357 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: it's even hod or really cold, really high. So yeah, 358 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 4: it's going to be a great challenge. So that's our 359 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: big one. You know, Chief and Billy Peedam came up 360 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: with the idea of challenging ourselves whilst raising money and. 361 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: It's been those two blocks. 362 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so typical. I mean a lot of the 363 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 4: traits that our teammates had on the field they've just 364 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: brought across to the Foundation, you know, like and it's 365 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 4: just been it's like you do great things in rugby league. 366 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: But the way that my former teammates have bound around. 367 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: What I'm trying to do is really the best thing 368 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 4: I've got out of rugby league for sure. And the 369 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 4: treks are a great way for us to get away. 370 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: And I'll highlight we did Everest, Maddie and. 371 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: I twenty seventeen, was that? What mean twenty and I might. 372 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 4: Try go there? We are. We had beaver Menzies we 373 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 4: did too. We had the beaver We had chief we 374 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: Hads like Russell Richardson and the Ghidli Boys, Bedsillie Boy. 375 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: And what a way to bond. There was so many 376 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: people that I've never met before. But by the time 377 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: you're leaving Catman do everyone like you know, they're all 378 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: our best mates. 379 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, a policeman train account and all these 380 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: people come together as one in a team. And we 381 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 4: had a like doing Everest, Maddie. It's it's just like 382 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 4: on the world stage, isn't it. It's just it's challenging, 383 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: it's hard, but it's fun and we we had the 384 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 4: best time. 385 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: Oh, it's fantastic. A couple of boys were lucky, like Crowey. 386 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: Let people know Crowey is the sort of guy and 387 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 1: you know, people react different to altitude and they told us, 388 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: just be very mindful of the person that you're knocking 389 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: around with in the tea rooms, like you're in pairs. 390 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: Just keep an eye on him, make sure they're not 391 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: sleeping too long. And started noticing Crowe. He was like 392 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: really really struggling. Anyway, They did a oxygen count on 393 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: him and it was so low and they said no, no, 394 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: there's no more for you, and made he wouldn't he 395 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't have it, just kept going and made he was 396 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: They nearly had to put him in a chopper and 397 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: send him back to CapMan do. 398 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, he collapsed on the bench in them wearing a 399 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 4: tea room full of people across the world. We're starting 400 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 4: to get a bit nervous. A couple of people vomiting. 401 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 4: And then this German backpacker was a bit snaky that 402 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 4: Crowley's taking up so much room on the seat and 403 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: had a bit of a shot and then he didn't 404 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: know what he was getting yourself influenced. Then Billy pede 405 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: and pipe and like you know, there there was no 406 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: war on the mountain. 407 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: A lot of the snow, you know. 408 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 4: And that's Billy is that he's just the best teammates. 409 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: That's this Billy of all the trips. 410 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: So you've done Kilimanjoo. 411 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a hi alogude one. Trent Robo on that 412 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 4: one joined us. Yep, we've done base Camp twice. Now, 413 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 4: I've been to Borneo, We've been to where else. We 414 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 4: did Vietnam last year. Oh, on a bike ride that 415 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: was just brilliant. We went in these villages winding a 416 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: way through and they're saying they hadn't even seen never 417 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 4: seen white man in the flesh. Really, but they're so happy, 418 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: sitting on their dirt, verandas and stuff. But they're in 419 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 4: a circle, they're laughing, they're giggling, friends and family, friends 420 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 4: and family, no phones, no nothing, but they're just happy. 421 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 4: And I say to you, think myself, well, maybe this 422 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 4: is true success. They're happy, they've got each other. We're 423 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: out rushing around all the time. 424 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so right. Yeah, you learn so much on 425 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 3: these trips, those crazy locations that can actually ask you 426 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: which is the worst airport, because I know has got 427 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: a really bad rap as one. 428 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: Of the world's worst airports. 429 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 4: Well I think it is. 430 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: Well, Well I tea to one. I reckon use it 431 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: when you land in to do the trick. 432 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: The first place, Lukla. Look their airport. 433 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: Look, it is terrifying. Really describe it to me. It's 434 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: you've got to you got this. It's cut into the 435 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: top of a mountain and the runway is just so short, 436 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: so when you land, you've got to be careful. They 437 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: got the jam the brakes on straight away or you 438 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: just ram into the back wall that close. And when 439 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: you take off, when you take off, this is terrifying. 440 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: You Actually they've got a really short runway, so they've 441 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: just to go bang and you just go straight off 442 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: the mountain and just hope that you've got enough. 443 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: Wow. 444 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, the towns fac they for entertainment. They sit and 445 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 4: watch it. 446 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 5: And watch. 447 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 4: Every day. 448 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 449 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: We have some hearing moments too, because remember we couldn't. 450 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: Fly couldn't fly out. 451 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 4: There was lots of you do, lots of waging around 452 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: for hours the right conditions what about? 453 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: And I was told told this. 454 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: It was fully try used to be on the project. 455 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: His name has Casey. At the moment he's to do all 456 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: these sort of special challenges and whatnot. Terrific bloke, an 457 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: American guy. And he told me, he said, when you 458 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: go and do it, he said, I'll give you tip. 459 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: He said, when you land first in Catman, do before 460 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 1: you do the track, he said, cat Man do, You'll 461 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: be going around going, oh mate, God, this is hectic. 462 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: It's real third world city, he said. 463 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: But when you go and do the track and come 464 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: back to Catman do, he said, Catman do, will feel 465 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: like Monika. 466 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: True? Yeah, do you remember? Chief? 467 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: So we come back, You're you're eating basically bowls of 468 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: rice all the time at the tea houses, of course, 469 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: So we're fanging when we get back, and Chief's just starving. 470 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: We get we all go to this place to have 471 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: beers and eat. Chief has forty eight chicken wings. No way, 472 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: he kept ordering them. He kept going, Chimpy, You've got 473 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: to get I've got to get some more. 474 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: Just go for a big I'm surprised. 475 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 3: I'm surprised they even have meat up there, because they're 476 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: like they you guys were eating a lot more sort 477 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: of like vegetables and things that don't up on the trek, 478 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: things that you don't have to cook as heavily, like 479 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: chicken and whatnot. But yeah, did you lose much weight 480 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 3: up there? 481 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 4: Too much? 482 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 2: Really? 483 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? You're eating lots of rice and yeah, whenever. 484 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: They take you. 485 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: Now, boys, really important thing is you don't drink on 486 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: the mountain. 487 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 4: Sure we'd find a cuple of beers. Oh wow, that's 488 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: so good. 489 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: Cu see how the old boys going. 490 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: Our boys going great, mate, We're proud of the old boys. 491 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 4: We've got to We've got a good group. You know. 492 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 2: Do you still train in the morning you blow. 493 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, bits of training and get together. 494 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: Who's the gang? 495 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 4: Kurt's the Kurt Gidley is a good ring leader of 496 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 4: that and Bedsy Chief Billy when he can make it. 497 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: We just whoever we can get there, Crowy, Jared d 498 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: just good blokes, get together, train coffee, good way to started. 499 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: You blokes are that tight even when we're playing us 500 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 3: up at New some More thing as you'd see that 501 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 3: the new Center of Excellence. They'd be in there before 502 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: everyone else. And then you drive past Merriwether near the 503 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 3: bars there and they'd be out there training and doing 504 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 3: their like in the middle of winter too. 505 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 4: Like if we go there early and train at the 506 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: Center of Excellence, and tell you, man, if we had 507 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 4: that gear, I'd be still playing. But it's hard to 508 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 4: believe we talk about our facilities. 509 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: I was I was saying to the boys the other 510 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: day we trained in a public gym. So Jack, if 511 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: you're in the midst of training, you'd have to wait. 512 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: There could be like two middle aged women and you're 513 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: going to sit and wait until they get their reps done. 514 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: You just you're in. 515 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: There the mercy and sometimes you be packed with the 516 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: public and you. 517 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: Just well, one thing about rugby league plays through. They're 518 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: not very patient either. I can't imagine that. 519 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: It's funny you say that, Jack. I think every single 520 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: every single club, every single team, believe they're tight. But 521 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: I think sometimes in each club's history there is a 522 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: side that is really tight, and I reckon that some 523 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: of those ninety seven into two thousand and one teams. 524 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, success brings you together as well, and 525 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 4: we had a great team which helped. And I mean 526 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: ninety five of these boys did it awesome. Ninety six 527 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 4: it was a bit of a rough year, yeah, but then 528 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: from ice I FL from ninety five to probably two 529 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 4: the club could genuinely have won a camp if we 530 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 4: had the right injury and if we had a bit 531 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 4: of luck, we could have nearly won. You know, we're 532 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 4: a real chance every year. But we were so close 533 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 4: because we all lived within ten minutes of each other, 534 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 4: you know, so we when there was a lunch on, 535 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: we're all together and it was just a great mix. 536 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: Like you got your real serious lead like Butts and 537 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 4: Chief and MG. But then you had like Maddie and 538 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 4: Joey in their early twenties and blokes like Robbie Davis, 539 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: Adam Muir, Billy. 540 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: P mad Dog would have been young then too. 541 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: So then there's another tier of guys that were all 542 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 4: sorts of eighteen nineteen twenty. That was sort of Olen 543 00:24:52,960 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 4: Craigie was there, but kids, Betsy, Adam McDougall. Yeah, just 544 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 4: on Darren Albert. So there. You know, it was just 545 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 4: a really good blend of of and plenty of They 546 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 4: say pick on character, Well, there was plenty of character 547 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: in out to it. 548 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: It was put on a Peter sharp you know. Sharpie's 549 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: been a lifelong coach. He's Newcastle at Paramatta of course 550 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: did the Northern Eagles and Manly didn't have a lot 551 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: of success there, but he's just most clubs sharp he 552 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: goes to and he sits behind the scenes, they always 553 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: have success. He's just a he's just a fantastic bloke 554 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: at the moment he's with the dogs. Of course we're 555 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, but he just says all the time, 556 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: he said, Madie, one of the most difficult things to 557 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: find in the modern game, he said, is leaders, he said, 558 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: But I tell people all the time that Newcastle side, 559 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 1: he said, I Reckon has had seven or eight leaders. 560 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: That it was just such a strong group. 561 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 4: Yeah it was, Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a 562 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 4: dream for me, like from being from Curry. 563 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: And then you tell us, tell us the story of 564 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: how you got the aggression. 565 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 4: Well, firstly, I was Curry, Curry boy. I knew Maddie 566 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: and Jail. We were you know, cesn we went at 567 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 4: the same school. I felt like Maddy was in year twelve. 568 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: I never knew that, yeah right, yeah, so I definitely 569 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 4: need Madge twelve years. Maddie wouldn't have probably named me, no, 570 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: but I saw I knew Maddie. And then Joey was 571 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 4: in year nine, so I sort of had a few 572 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 4: more years there to get to name Joey on a 573 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 4: minor level, and that Joey was obviously the young gun 574 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 4: Knights player. So I was just a Curry boy playing 575 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 4: footy for Curry. But I had a big dream to 576 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 4: try and get there, but it was just a long 577 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 4: way away. At fourteen or fifteen, I wasn't anywhere near 578 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 4: strong enough or quick enough nights fifteen, seventeens, nineteen's not 579 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 4: getting a look in. So it was I was lucky 580 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 4: I didn't choose to maybe go in another direction because 581 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 4: it could have been tempting. But I hung in and 582 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 4: I got to start in my first year at grade 583 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 4: at Curry was in two thousand and nineteen ninety five 584 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: and Curry had won two premierships. It was just going 585 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 4: off the town. It was a great time and their 586 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 4: third premier ship. I snuck onto the wing for that 587 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: game and we beat Wes and I've scored two tries. 588 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: You and McGrady was in that team. 589 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, wow, yeah. 590 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got exposed to legend. 591 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 3: The mcgrady's are crazy. I've played with that many mcgrady's 592 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: too in my time footy and all sorts of grades 593 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: and huge. 594 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 4: I'd forgotten you played with Panda, Yeah that is that 595 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 4: was no weekish and I'd watch him at training and 596 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 4: he was just going half pace and now and again 597 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: he turn it on and I'm just going, wow, this 598 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 4: is this is awesome. Big Dave Smith was there. He 599 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 4: was another Knights fella. And so the ninety six Peter 600 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 4: Brady and Shane Lee, a couple of Curry legends, coached 601 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: the twenty ones. They said, come and have a trial. 602 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 4: So I've got a trial and made the team for 603 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 4: ninety six. First time I made the Knights. Had a 604 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 4: nice steady year. So that was ninety six, and then 605 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 4: ninety seven started along and I watched the news and 606 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 4: there it came on nights I started their ninety seven 607 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 4: campaign and I'm sitting at home into my rissoles and 608 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: We're right, what's going on here? So I made a 609 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 4: call on said it's all started. Am I going to 610 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 4: get another trial? And oh yeah, yeah you sure, yeah, yeah, 611 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 4: We'll sort that out. So I've got a trial for 612 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: ninety seven season. So I was just trialing and did 613 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 4: okay and got him into the reserve grade team, and 614 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 4: then from there it just sort of I got a 615 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 4: couple of opportunities to sit on the bench and then 616 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 4: round fifteen we played the Roosters. It was a rainy 617 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: Friday night, Maddie. It came down to the end. We 618 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: had a draw one game, but I just remember the 619 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: extra noise in the crowd and the extra intensity in 620 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 4: the game, and I just thought, wow, and I think 621 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 4: someone roughed me up. I think it was even clear, 622 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: and I thought, how good is this? You know? Yeah, 623 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 4: it was just yeah, dream come true. 624 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: And we talk about Ivan and Nathan of course anonymous. Now, 625 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: how cool I under pressure. That's a perfect example, Jake. 626 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: It's absolutely it's ankle deep mud, just pissed down for days. 627 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 2: And we're leading them. 628 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: We're leading them ten to four, and it's literally about 629 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: thirty seconds ago. Andrew Walker the numbers out of one 630 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: of the halves playmakers for the Rooses. As he does 631 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: UNKI did a little chip over the top double chip, 632 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they scored right on full time, 633 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: right in the corner. So it's ankle deep Mart, We're 634 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: leading ten eight, We're standing on the try line. Ivan 635 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: clearly takes the ball and as he putting on the mound, 636 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: we're saying some fucking awful things, just fucking giving it 637 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: to him. He didn't even blink. He just went back, 638 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: came forward, just kicked it, looked over and said, fuck 639 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: you guys. 640 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: Wow, I've actually seen that. Yeah, I mean how much long? 641 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: How much further after was it that you started living 642 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 3: with bedsy. 643 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: That was about yes after, Yeah, yes, I was just 644 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 4: finding my feet in ninety seven, getting opportunities at these blags. 645 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 4: I think I was. I was roomies with Maddie early days, 646 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 4: away games, so that was always good. I remember that. 647 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 4: I was thinking about that the other day too, and 648 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 4: I was thinking, I think one time Maddie might remember this. 649 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: But I gone to sleep early, and I popped up 650 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 4: and I've gone, you've got a problem? Have you got 651 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 4: a problem? But he looks at me and goes sit. 652 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 4: I must have been my head must have been spinning 653 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: and putting it on your. 654 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: Dad, because all the boys when we used to room together, 655 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: they always used to go because I had all these 656 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: I used to take all my boots away, so I'd 657 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: have about eight pairs of boods just lined up in 658 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: the morning and then go. I'd go to the ground, 659 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: do an inspection and know which I'd have. 660 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: Had all these beds. I haven't done lots stink sting rays. 661 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: But it's unbelievable. 662 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: Excuse you to think about the start of the year. 663 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: You're there, you're eating your wristoles and you're going in 664 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: a second, know where's my trial? And then Grand four? 665 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, just amazing the break the break through. 666 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: We spoke about it before we come on here, and 667 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: I brought up the time we played the Southeast Coinsland 668 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: Crushes two thirds of the way through the year, and 669 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: I brought it up because it was a funny moment 670 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: in the fact that we played a game, and as 671 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: was the time back in the mid nineties, you just 672 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: go on a bender after rumed Brisbane. Anyway, the coach, 673 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: Malcolm Realley, who was a real discipline arean like just 674 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: legend but highly disciplined. He goes, right, we're going to 675 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: do a rehab session. For rehab, We've got a quick 676 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: turn around. I'm just going to do a ball work session. 677 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: And we're all still blind, right, and I can watch 678 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: him out and he's just getting more and more aggravated. Anyway, 679 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: he just us unloading on the team. He's a fucking 680 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: disgrace and everything. And Scotti Conley's nickname was the scrub Pig. 681 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: He thought Maut was joking and started laughing out, oh yeah, 682 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: this is hilarious, right, and he goes. 683 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: Fuck you, fuck you. 684 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: But that game husy like I remember you putting your 685 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: body on the line. Tell us about the yeah moment. 686 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it was just I'm just trying to feel 687 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 4: like I'm trying to get the confidence out of these 688 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: guys because they probably didn't really name me, and I 689 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 4: didn't look probably the most likely type, so they Yeah. 690 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: I just remember they were on the sideline. They've kicked 691 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 4: this ball across field, and I've come from the wing 692 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 4: and I've charged across and I've dived in front of 693 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: the I've caught it and then someone's belted me and 694 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: I've flinged around the post. It was a really good take. 695 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 4: But I just remember Butsy getting on the bus and 696 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: got Eh making a big point of it to me, 697 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 4: and it made me feel real good and made me 698 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: start to feel part of the team a little bit 699 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: because I obviously lacking a bit of confidence. But it 700 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 4: was a nice moment. Blokes like Buttsy and like Maddie Butsy, 701 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 4: these blokes were always building me up from the start. 702 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 4: I was lucky to have senior players, you know, if 703 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 4: the Knights were coming last that year and I could 704 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 4: have got tipped out, just like if Curry wasn't a 705 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 4: good team in ninety five is it good and they 706 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 4: come last good chance, I wouldn't have got the opportunities 707 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 4: I've got. So I was surrounded by some good people 708 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 4: at the right time at. 709 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: That run through ninety seven, half Jack not long. I 710 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: reckon about four weeks out from semifinals and winning a 711 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: Grand Final is all about timing as well as anything 712 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: else is. We just just caught fire and we kept 713 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: playing manly right at the back end of the year. 714 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: Every song we played, and we just kept getting close 715 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: and closer and closer to the morning. You wake up 716 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: in the Grand Final and you just go you know 717 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: you're going to win. 718 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: A strong air of confidence. And I look back now 719 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 4: and go, hang on, you were twenty How could you 720 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 4: feel that confident? But you just get caught up in 721 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 4: the in that team environment, and I felt this inner 722 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 4: belief there was there, led from chief as captain to everyone. 723 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: But we just did and we'd had the fun like 724 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 4: we made up the CD with our you know, we 725 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 4: had film clear every time we're on the bus, the 726 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 4: songs are coming on. Then we're in the sheds the 727 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 4: songs are coming on. And look, Mail probably didn't agree 728 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 4: with it, but the leader he was, he knew that's 729 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 4: what we needed. Yeah, you know, and it was fun 730 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: and we're dancing around having fun in the sheds. Yeah, 731 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 4: it really was special. 732 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 3: Well, I've got a few a few things from your 733 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: old teammates have said. And then one of the things 734 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 3: was the Telegraph the morning of the Grand Final, when 735 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: you're reading the paper and they had something about they 736 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: had Chief Joey and you, and they had player bios. 737 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 4: I tell this story a bit, but I'll tell it again. Yeah, 738 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 4: so could you, babe. Plaza was where we stayed. So 739 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 4: we wake up the morning of the game and I'm 740 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 4: feeling great men, walk to the elevator, danced my way 741 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 4: into the breakfast room. This is my day. So I 742 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 4: walk in and there's a six or eight blokes around 743 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 4: the table and they're looking at me laughing. So I 744 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 4: sort of wander over and they hand over the newspaper, 745 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 4: the Daily Telegraph what it was, and it was a 746 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 4: lift out of each player player profile. So number one 747 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 4: Robbie o' davis, amazing under the high ball, great side step. 748 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 4: Number two Darren Albert, fastest man in the game. Number 749 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 4: three Owen Craigie schoolboy prodigy, brilliant talent, Number four Adam 750 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 4: McDougall blockbusting strong center. So by this I just can't 751 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 4: wait to read what they say about me. Number five 752 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 4: Mark Hughes sholders like a brown snake. 753 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 754 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, not the best start to me day. 755 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 4: Or we show them Jack, so I tell people they 756 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 4: stung like a brown snack. So yeah, just a bit 757 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 4: of fun. But you know, like there'd been no off 758 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 4: season wait programs, like I hadn't really done any weights, 759 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 4: you know. 760 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: Public gym. There's other people on the machines. 761 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I was playing center, like I hadn't played 762 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 4: any a center at one game at center as a kid, 763 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 4: I reckon, you know, I just got put into there. 764 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 4: So just finding a way. 765 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: What's your memory, hughsy Of, I said the last moment, 766 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: but remember halftime one of the like, so it's really tight. 767 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: It's eight six and almost the last play before halftime, they. 768 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 2: Do a full fulfilled shift. 769 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: Cliffy Lines drifts across and one of our players just 770 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: lays on the inside inside ballshit and Nevin and we're going. 771 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: They scored Rod on half time, remember going, we all 772 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: walk in fourteen six. 773 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 2: Down and Joey loses it. 774 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: Memory he's going fucking hell for the fucking hell and 775 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: everyone's going mate settled there. 776 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 4: It was yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, we like it 777 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 4: wasn't the most like there was holes in our defense 778 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 4: at times, and saying it wasn't the most perfect game 779 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 4: in footage. That was a brilliant like it was a 780 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 4: brilliant theater the game. 781 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: What do you remember you took the ball on the charge, 782 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 1: you threw it to Alby. What what's your memory of 783 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 1: that final play? 784 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 4: Yeah? 785 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, so Joey got charged. 786 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 4: You'd hit the upright yep, moments before. So that was 787 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 4: that was a close one. And then did Joey go again? 788 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: Joey went again and got charged down. 789 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, I went to myself and then I 790 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 4: just got the ball and running and then I just 791 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: as I'm going, I throw a pretty ordinary past to 792 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 4: Darren Albert. He gets tackled, yeah, five meters in and 793 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 4: then yeah, so then from there I run. I raced 794 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 4: to the short side. Joey gets into dummy half. Maddie 795 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 4: wants the ball. Mark, Ye, I tipped Joey off, but 796 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 4: that it's on down the short side. He has a 797 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 4: bit of a glance. Maddie's screaming at him. This way 798 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 4: on my call. He's come down the short side. And 799 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 4: just remember this play propelled him on a mortal yep. 800 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: And I made the call, he made the course and 801 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 4: he throws the dummy to you. Yeah, and then he 802 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 4: just refuses to give me the ball. Just you watch it. 803 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 4: Does these stupid little dummy. 804 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 3: I might have been your chances of immortality. 805 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 4: I had spud coming across Yep. 806 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 2: We wouldn't get that. India too strong for Marc Hu's grandstand. 807 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 4: Albie didn't pay for a beer for two years in 808 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 4: your car, so I did the Beau. I would have 809 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 4: saved don in fifty grand back then. 810 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: Well he will trice over the week before too. That's 811 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 3: on the everyone's I still I remember seeing it for 812 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: the first time and I never seen because he's gone. 813 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:35,479 Speaker 3: Who was the winger again? 814 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: That's his who was quick? 815 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 3: So well, he was moving fast when now becomes into 816 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 3: into camera, Oh my. 817 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: God, Jack, I've never seen and throw Marling throw Slater. Everyone, 818 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: I've never seen someone so football fast as Albie in 819 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: the fact that like our Strength Strength Coast coach Bruce. 820 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 2: Gallah, who's story in himself. 821 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: But he's just say mate, if I coached him since 822 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: from when he as a kid, he'd want a gold 823 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: medal in the two hundred meters. Really, yep, that's how quick. 824 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: But think about it was stopping and starting stepping. He 825 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: didn't brush a meter. 826 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 4: Really yeah, all these fast guys I watched now, I 827 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 4: still compare him to Albi for some reason, a bit biased, but. 828 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: I just felt like that was so fast, oh that one, 829 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: and thinking about it was he was a completely different 830 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: winger to the ones you see now a lot of 831 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: times in the fact that he had no work rate, 832 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: Like just before the semi finals there was a blow 833 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: up in a team meeting because Albie had had the 834 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: Fords blown up. I suppose Rightfley, so he had one 835 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: run for two meters. 836 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: But when you needed something big, that's what he come 837 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,399 Speaker 2: up with. 838 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: If he was a workhoorse, he doesn't pick up maxifats, 839 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: we don't win that competition. 840 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 4: Magic. 841 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: I just want to say, while we're talking about the 842 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: different characters, and we're skipping around a little a little 843 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: bit here, but I mean Adam McDougall, the success that 844 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 1: he has made in business, how much has he given 845 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: you think to your found. 846 00:38:55,520 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 4: Out he'd be over five hundred thousand. Yeahs is just 847 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 4: an amazing character. Firstly, footy wise, it was just unbelievable 848 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 4: playing with him. You just knew he'd set himself for 849 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 4: the big games. 850 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 2: He would. 851 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 4: He was unstoppable when he was when he was like that, 852 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 4: So we're so blessed to have him in our side. 853 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 4: But then in later life, you know, he was doing 854 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 4: all this stuff and going what's he doing? What is it? 855 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: Because he could throw up polkies and he's saying he's 856 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: doing this supple but everyone's going yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well. 857 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,959 Speaker 3: Well how old would he have been around the ninety 858 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 3: seven Grand Final? 859 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: Early twenty or Toland? Yeah, he's only he was twenty one? 860 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 4: Was young? 861 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 3: Was there a crew of years because there was an 862 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: older crew and then sort of like a middle middle 863 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 3: sort of crew. Was there a crew of young like 864 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 3: the lot of yours that were real young that was 865 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 3: sort of was real surreal for like he's all stuck together. 866 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it was yeah, we were on this Yeah, we 867 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 4: were on this wave. Yeah. But yeah, so back to 868 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 4: just yeah, very giving, amazing person him and Belinda. What 869 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 4: they've done with the man. I don't think there's a 870 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 4: rugby League player that's had that type of success made. 871 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: He'll give them the fact they've sold He's maintained a lot 872 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: of the company and sold them to people who are 873 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: going to take into America. 874 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 2: He could. I think he probably end up as rugbul 875 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 2: League's first bionaire. 876 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 4: As far as players, they just couldn't be any happier 877 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 4: for him and a great person a Hughesy. 878 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: You've got to tell people the celebrations was something in themselves. 879 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: But fear play to you, your stamina and chiefs guts. 880 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: YouTube blokes were the last ones standing. 881 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 4: When we were the last light standing. But as their 882 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 4: story goes on, one of the nights might have been 883 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 4: Thursday night. We ended up at the Empire Hotel. It 884 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 4: was a lovely little twenty four hour unfortunately not with 885 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 4: us anymore. 886 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, plenty of blood, plenty of phlegm. 887 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Chief Chief's feet was swelling and he had a 888 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 4: bit of gout, I think, and I mean g He 889 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 4: did inspire me on the field, but to kick on 890 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 4: with no shoes and feet like that, that's leadership. 891 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: That was huge. 892 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 4: Yeah big yeah, big balloons. 893 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: And new blokes are in the pub, So tell us 894 00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 2: about the Empire yeah. 895 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 4: So we get in there. It's a twenty four hour 896 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 4: there's karaoke on. Chief gets on a stool right in 897 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 4: front of the men's toilet and gets on there and 898 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 4: has a bit of a bit of a doze off. 899 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 4: And I noticed that and then sort of people can't 900 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 4: get it through that through where he was, so I 901 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 4: felt I had to do something. So I went up 902 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 4: and I whacked him over my arm and I got 903 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 4: him up, and the people ask me what did it 904 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 4: look like? And I say, fink winfeld cup, I've got 905 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 4: the cheap And as I get him up, everyone has 906 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 4: one stands. Everyone in the joints to it and they're 907 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 4: just clapping their leads getting him out of the door. 908 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 4: We get out, open the door, we start to fall. 909 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 4: I'm maneuver Chief, so he cushions me on the pavement. 910 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,439 Speaker 4: He takes the hit. I put him in a cab 911 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 4: and that that's the story. 912 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 3: So what do you think you're weighing? 913 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 2: There? 914 00:41:53,960 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 4: Usually oh seventy eight that around Jack, But oh yeah, 915 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 4: but yeah, that's just fun memories and we have fun 916 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 4: with that. But for me, like the leader Chief is 917 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 4: and still is to me today, like I just stay lucky. 918 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk another characters, Jack, little things had happened to 919 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 1: remember your twenty first? Twenty first but shortly after? 920 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 3: Would this be my one of my godfather's because you 921 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 3: couldn't decide. 922 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 4: So this is December after Grand Final, So this is December, 923 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 4: December fifteenth. All raids lead to Western Town Hall, yep, 924 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 4: which is just next to Curry Curry, where I'm putting 925 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 4: on a twenty first. Reality is the team. So I'm 926 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 4: all excited yet nervous. So this is everything's coming. So 927 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 4: then the boys turn up. Oh this is the first 928 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 4: one with my present, my gift. 929 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 2: Oh, here we go. 930 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 4: What's this? So there's this newspaper wrapped around this tall thing, 931 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 4: it's about this high, and Maddie and Butts and Crowy 932 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 4: or I think it was, they hadn't present you my presence. 933 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 4: So I start unwrapping it and there's this big skinny giraffe. 934 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 4: The boy said that reminded me of so that was 935 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 4: my president. The giraffe didn't last too much longer, didn't. 936 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: It was Crowy doing the twirl over his head. I 937 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: think it fractured his neck. 938 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: But so Adammir, of course you're one of them, one 939 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: of your god fathers and what had happened our skills 940 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: coach slash he. 941 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 2: Had hid me and Roles Steve Dunstan the Swede. I remember. 942 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: Swede used to always like he was almost like the 943 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: cheerleader involved with the good skills stuff, right. 944 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 2: But he's always morale to the point. 945 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: But he used to take upon himself sometimes to like 946 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: sledge the opposition. So we're playing North Sydney one day 947 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: and Greg Florimer is there, who's legend flow and he's 948 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: he's he's about to walk down in the sheds and 949 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: he just goes and Sweed goes a flow. He goes 950 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 1: mate the loser's sheds when you get to the bottom 951 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: on the right. But you're you're more than aware of that, 952 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: you've played here for twenty years, right, and he's and 953 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: he was known sweet as he used to carry the 954 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: ghetto blaster everywhere and we flow. You alled out in 955 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 1: the dressy up to the grand stand, just play. 956 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: On the on the boombox, your fuck with mate strength 957 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 3: conditioners and more so the speed coaches there, there's some 958 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 3: different breeds out there. 959 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,839 Speaker 1: Well, Adam Mua signed to go to North Sydney, right, 960 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: So Swede had had he on to one of our 961 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: back rowers and said to one of our back rowers 962 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: on the quiet, just trying to boost him up. 963 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 2: Wasn't so much about Adam Muhr. 964 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: About Hurts he Adam Mill's nickname. It was more about 965 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,480 Speaker 1: building the a guy up. And he said to him, mate, Hurts, 966 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: He's gone, that's all right, forget about that. You just 967 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: train hard, you'll be You'll be twice. You could be 968 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: twice the player he is, So word you back to 969 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 1: Hertzy that he said that. So we're at the Boosey's 970 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: twenty first and Swed gets up on stage and starts 971 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: performing songs with this guitar that was like a family 972 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: ill his family in New Zealand, like for Traia. So anyway, 973 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: Herts he cats upon one stags and says, may can 974 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: I do a song? And he goes, yeah, good as 975 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 1: gold hands it and Hertz he just smashes the guitar. 976 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 2: There were wood chips. We got back to the town hall. 977 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 4: We used him in the garden. 978 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh cry fast for a little bit 979 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 3: for hughes. See my god, my other godfather, Stephen Crowe 980 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 3: actually asked me. When I asked him, I said, oh, 981 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 3: we've got Hughgy and I got to jump in for Coop. 982 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 3: He actually asked me to ask you about two thousand 983 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 3: and one, your Origin debut. He mentioned that at the 984 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 3: time it was sort of Betsy was the one that 985 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 3: people were going, it's very likely that Betsy will be 986 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 3: in the squad, and he said, you couldn't have been 987 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 3: a more supportive friend. But when the team was announced 988 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 3: you were in and Beggie hadn't been chosen. He was saying, 989 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 3: what are we to ask you? What was it like 990 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 3: for Betsy? Like he reckons? Beggie was nothing like couldn't 991 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 3: have been a more supporting roommate and friend at the 992 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 3: time for you? 993 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we had a great partnership Betsy and I. 994 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 4: And in two thousand and one, Betsy was very big 995 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 4: tip to be the hooker. So we played Saturday night 996 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 4: against the Dragons. Joey went off, he got injured. We 997 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 4: won the games, a really good game. But Joey said 998 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 4: to me after game, mate on you're a big chance here. 999 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 4: But it's like Joey, you know boy that cried wolf 1000 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 4: types And yeah, I mean, okay, well, yeah that'd be good. 1001 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 4: But I didn't think too much of it. So then 1002 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 4: we went. We went went to local league next the 1003 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,680 Speaker 4: next day on the cans, having a good day out 1004 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 4: and then yeah, sure enough that the phone rang and 1005 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 4: they said, yeah, you're in the team, and I was 1006 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 4: a smoky, so yeah, it was amazing. Had to rush 1007 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 4: get it done, and Beds he helped. And although I 1008 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 4: did say to take all the messages back then you 1009 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 4: had your home phone because I knew me relative and 1010 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,520 Speaker 4: that take take down the messages and I'll get so 1011 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 4: then he ended up, yeah, mate, I've done it all. 1012 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 4: There's a list one hundred long of names and anyway 1013 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 4: lost that list. Anyone out there is still waiting for 1014 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 4: a call playing well yeah, but no, it was awesome. 1015 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 3: Because that was that's a like I never knew that. 1016 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 3: I actually thought bed you played before, but you played 1017 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 3: fullback that series as well. 1018 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was our one, and then Beds he didn't 1019 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 4: miss a beat after that. You get in two thousand 1020 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 4: and two and away I've. 1021 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,439 Speaker 3: Seen his the debut when he got the kickoff. That's 1022 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 3: one of the great origin moment, some iconic. 1023 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, accuse me to check. Just two thousand and one, 1024 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: the night second premiership. How did it feel going from 1025 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,760 Speaker 1: being a young bloke who was just like, I can't 1026 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,239 Speaker 1: believe I'm here to suddenly bring someone who's on the 1027 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: cusp of a senior player. 1028 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 2: Different. 1029 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 4: It was a different feel because I felt it was 1030 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 4: three or four years of hard work and training and 1031 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 4: you certainly felt I definitely felt more a part of 1032 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 4: the team. So it's still as much enjoyment and you know, 1033 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 4: it was still an amazing thing to be a part of, 1034 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 4: but it was slightly different to the one being the 1035 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 4: young kid just on the edge of it. But yeah, 1036 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,799 Speaker 4: it was just a brilliant, yeah, brilliant thing to be 1037 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 4: a part of. You know, the first ever Night Grand Final. 1038 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 4: We really we had the team in two thousand and 1039 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 4: Maddie or know this, but we just just didn't quite 1040 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 4: get there. We were winning aid En Neil against you know, 1041 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 4: and we had like Butt's Maddie peat shields, someone else 1042 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 4: leaving real senior players, and we felt two thousand was 1043 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 4: our window to really do it and we just missed out. 1044 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,400 Speaker 4: So there was a bit of a rebuild year in 1045 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 4: two thousand and one, but out of the blue we 1046 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,920 Speaker 4: sort of put it together at the right time. 1047 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 1: You had a player like in Joey who suddenly emerged 1048 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 1: as the best player in the world by away, and yeah, 1049 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 1: like Paramatta had broken all the attacking records that year. 1050 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,880 Speaker 1: They were red hot favorites. There's a famous story about 1051 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: the Grand Final breakfast with you. Blokes were joking having 1052 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: a good time because it is a luxury being an underdog, 1053 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: and they were really tense, but particularly you said, you 1054 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: basically start clowned around and were asking questions like you're 1055 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: part of the press of Joey. 1056 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's been since to us said over that. 1057 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,800 Speaker 4: But we had these big game players in like BK 1058 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 4: and Joey had done it all before, so they were 1059 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 4: our leaders, and we rubbed off on us and we 1060 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 4: were having fun. And at the breakfast, we were we 1061 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 4: were felling good. We were just enjoying the week. So 1062 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 4: the media scrumbs there and they've got the players up 1063 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 4: the front, and I think it was Haig's beds, Haig's 1064 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 4: Billy and Joey. Billy was club captain, I think, and 1065 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 4: Billy and Joey, so yeah, they're just getting questions fired 1066 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 4: at him. So I snuck into the scrum and just 1067 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 4: and fired a couple of questions to the amusement of 1068 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 4: the boys. That were watching the back, but it was 1069 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,880 Speaker 4: just yeah, simply like because I think Buttsy was the 1070 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 4: captain the year before, so I was like, oh, Michael 1071 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 4: at the start of the year, a lot of conjecture 1072 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 4: for captaincy, a lot of talk about Mark Hughes. You 1073 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 4: ended up going with Andrew Johnts. Do you regret that decision? 1074 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 4: Then he caught it under it was me and he 1075 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 4: said no, I definitely don't regret that. He but it 1076 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 4: was just fun. It was good fun and you know, 1077 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 4: was just part of the week. And you know, like 1078 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 4: I said, we had Ben Cannedy had Joey. They were 1079 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 4: at the top of their games. Yep, Paramatta had a 1080 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,399 Speaker 4: great team, great team. 1081 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: Can I ask what was Haggs like as a coach? 1082 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 3: I haven't heard too much about him as a coach. 1083 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,399 Speaker 4: Yes, it was interesting. We had Mal who was inspiring 1084 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 4: and a real leader. Then we had Warren Ryan came 1085 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,280 Speaker 4: in for a couple of years, more of the educator, 1086 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 4: real footy brain. And then I felt Michael had a 1087 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 4: bit of both where he's probably really nice sort of guy, 1088 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 4: knew his footy, just a real nice bit different. So yeah, 1089 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,359 Speaker 4: that were the three coaches for me. Yes, they all 1090 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:42,800 Speaker 4: had their strengths. They all did really well. Warren was 1091 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 4: particularly a very educational sort of coach. 1092 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: And that was important and that era for the nights 1093 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: we had a lot of success because purely by accident, 1094 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 1: each coach was different, Like each coach who superseded the 1095 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: last was what the team needed at the time. So 1096 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: he go back to David Waite. David Waite Wade, he 1097 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: was a great educator, but we needed someone to teach 1098 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 1: us how to give mental toughness and be men. Malcolm 1099 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: really come in. So Malcolm, then it was time to 1100 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:08,440 Speaker 1: be topped up with. 1101 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 2: Alcohol. 1102 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: Now with education in comes Warren and then all of 1103 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: a sudden, we need the intensity to drop a little bit, 1104 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: you know, getting too much. And suddenly Hayes comes in 1105 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,279 Speaker 1: as a really affable sort of man management sort of guy. 1106 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 4: So I'll say, with Maddie and Joey, like the education 1107 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 4: that they were given out the team, you know what 1108 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 4: I mean, they ran a lot of stuff. So that 1109 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 4: was a real awesome learning curve for all us outside 1110 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 4: backs and that we were playing outside these guys and 1111 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 4: it made a real difference. 1112 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: But you're talking about a lot of leaders in the side. 1113 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: One of the untold stories about it. Jack was mileig 1114 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: for a lot most of the preseason. We were doing 1115 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: a lot of coaching ourselves. On two occasions during the 1116 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: lead up to the competition started, Malcolm had to return 1117 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 1: to England. His mum was very very and then I 1118 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: think he's no more. Dad passed away, so he went 1119 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,840 Speaker 1: over a fair stint. We basically coast ourselves because Sharpie, 1120 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,880 Speaker 1: who is a reservery coach, got pinched by Paramatta. So 1121 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: we're like, right, how are we going to play this? 1122 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 1: And Malcolm mate was so without ego. He just goes 1123 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: right out what he is doing. Yep, sounds good, comes back, 1124 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: has look what we're doing, then has to go back 1125 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 1: to England again. It didn't arrive back to about round 1126 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: four and so it just shows you if you've got 1127 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: soon your players and everybody is on board, just things 1128 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: just happen. 1129 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:34,800 Speaker 2: Such a luxury. 1130 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,920 Speaker 3: You see it a lot now, just because you know, 1131 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 3: because the game is so quick, you know, and everyone 1132 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 3: a weird time in rugby league where a lot of 1133 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 3: the older playmakers are about to move on or have 1134 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 3: moved on. You can see where a lot of those 1135 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,760 Speaker 3: clubs get their edges, like when Reno went up to Brisbane. 1136 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 3: You know how much he educated the rest of the team. 1137 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 3: What an impact having you know, experienced playmakers. Hasn't the 1138 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 3: rest of the squads like how much it can help? 1139 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 4: Watching to highlight the other day and it's against paramatter. 1140 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 4: In ninety seven, Maddy and the left edges are doing 1141 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 4: all these flicking and then we play the ball. Then 1142 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 4: the half back, the dumm hour passes it to you. 1143 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 4: You do a twenty or thirty meter left to right 1144 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 4: to Joey. Then Joey does a thirty meter left to 1145 00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 4: right to me and I hit a hole and untouched 1146 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 4: and scored and I thought, so the defense we were 1147 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 4: over there, and then two quick passes and we're over 1148 00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 4: this side. You know the way we got shot. Yeah, 1149 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 4: the shot shot and the way we spread the ball 1150 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,239 Speaker 4: would have been hard for sides. To a fan. 1151 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,080 Speaker 1: Two thousand and one, when you win the Grand Final, 1152 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:35,479 Speaker 1: how different was it because ninety seven we come back 1153 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:40,319 Speaker 1: and it's it's you know, something like eight o'clock at 1154 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: night and the whole city is still away, and that 1155 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: you get back about one or two in the morning. Yeah, 1156 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: was that feel strange? 1157 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,919 Speaker 4: Well, not really, because we went to the stadium and 1158 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 4: the stadium there must have been ten thousand there, five 1159 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 4: to ten thousand, So we did a lap around the 1160 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 4: ground and we're getting these massive rules. But it was 1161 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 4: definitely a lot later. I do like the day game 1162 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 4: format for that, but yeah, it was different because it 1163 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,120 Speaker 4: was a bit later. But I think Mad Mad Monday 1164 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 4: just started a bit quicker. Yeah, what about so obviously 1165 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 4: the ninety seven one that's become how that Mad Monday 1166 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 4: has become legendary, Like we've got Lego, We've gotten on 1167 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 4: Joey on the skateboard. 1168 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 2: Tripping Ken he can he kick Chase completely naked? That 1169 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 2: I met Kenny at the Old Boy's Book. 1170 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 1: Kenny was like, it shows you, like how inclusive is 1171 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 1: not the right word, you know. It's like just well, 1172 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: like we a lot of scaley wags and everything, but 1173 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: there was a real decency about the players. Like to 1174 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,879 Speaker 1: let people know Kenny. Kenny was a guy who grew 1175 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: up with a lot of learning difficulties and suddenly he 1176 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 1: was looking for something in his life and he couldn't 1177 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 1: drive a car. As a result, he used to he 1178 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 1: used to ride his pushbike from Windale into the city, 1179 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 1: which I'll let people know is probably a twenty minute 1180 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,560 Speaker 1: twenty minute drive he'd ride and how he what did 1181 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: we started to do? We didn't know who he was 1182 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: Kenny Hamilton, but we when we do a training session, 1183 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: we're practicing our kicking. He just come on the film 1184 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 1: and start kicking the ball back. So he ended up 1185 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: earning the nickname Kenny Kick Chase. So then he started 1186 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,879 Speaker 1: becoming our game day. So make Kenny, You're just part 1187 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 1: of the see him come in. So we had a 1188 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: pass and he come to the sheds and then we 1189 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: go out to warm up and this would entertain the 1190 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: whole crowd. Part of the warm up, he would stand 1191 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: under the sticks and Joey just launched these massive torpedo bombs. 1192 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,440 Speaker 2: And Kenny trying to catch him. Sometimes he would and 1193 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,320 Speaker 2: the crowd had just be going nuts. 1194 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 4: To catch him. And yeah, Kenny and grew his own 1195 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 4: cult following. He think I'd see him signing the odd 1196 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 4: jersey and he'd do everything like I mean, I'm in 1197 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,760 Speaker 4: the big power aide buckets. Yeah, yeah, I remember him 1198 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 4: pouring the water and then putting the powder in and 1199 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 4: couldn't find the stir. 1200 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 3: The first time I heard about Kenny was John Thomas Tomo, 1201 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 3: So Tom, I would have been there when when you 1202 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 3: were there. He's still there now, Tom, he still works. 1203 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: Do you do anything with the club? 1204 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, game days, Maddie, I m C the corporate area, 1205 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 4: which I enjoy just get in and have a chat 1206 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,160 Speaker 4: and set the scene and meet some great sponsors and 1207 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,080 Speaker 4: people say. I enjoy that side of things. Obviously very 1208 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 4: close to Bedsie, so I keep in contact of everything 1209 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 4: that's going on there. So yeah, I'm. 1210 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,360 Speaker 1: Still part of it to all the games. 1211 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 4: Every home game. Enjoy that, watch that, watch the other ones. 1212 00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:30,680 Speaker 4: I'm telling you. 1213 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,000 Speaker 1: Who are the features? Because we've got the Old Boys Box? 1214 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 1: Who are the regulars? And the Old Boys Box? 1215 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 4: Who are the regulars? 1216 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 2: Do they do shift? Now? 1217 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 4: We try and shift it around and try and share 1218 00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 4: it around and we get them there and so now 1219 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,760 Speaker 4: the Old Boys is it's it's it's a good strong group. 1220 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 4: And I see that other clubs are doing a good 1221 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 4: job with it now as well. I think it's important 1222 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 4: to keep these X players together and give them some 1223 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 4: purpose and it's great. 1224 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to ask you. I've been I've been 1225 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 3: teetering on it. The house you and Bensie lived lived in, 1226 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 3: can you tell me about the bar. 1227 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 2: The bar. 1228 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, So Bensy was living on his own and 1229 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 4: I said, let's just move in together. So one rainy 1230 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 4: Tuesday afternoon we decided to move in. So we got 1231 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 4: all the game. We're moving him across and we had 1232 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 4: this cupboard that we couldn't get through the door, had 1233 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 4: this like couldn't work out how to get it through, 1234 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 4: and we were stuff. We just give up. We ran Krowey, 1235 00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 4: who was working at the club at the time as 1236 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,840 Speaker 4: an admin. Crow can you come? And we're just over 1237 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 4: this and we can't sort it. So Crowley comes in, 1238 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,480 Speaker 4: loosens the tie, measures it all up, and it was 1239 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 4: like magic. He somehow knew the angles and got us 1240 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,160 Speaker 4: through that door straight away. But then it sort of 1241 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 4: clicked to me that sort of years of maneuver and 1242 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 4: the years through corridor, yeah makes him the perfect removal ust. 1243 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 4: So Crowley moved us in and yeah, so we had 1244 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 4: a great partnership. But downstairs we constructed a bar and 1245 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 4: we called it Whispers Whispers because we found everyone was 1246 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 4: coming there all the time, but they weren't bringing their 1247 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 4: own liquor, so no one was ever shouting. 1248 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 2: So very good. 1249 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 4: We used to call it whispers. I had a pool table, 1250 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 4: had a jacuzzie. It was like a little clubhouse Inweather. 1251 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 4: The boys all close. 1252 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: They said to me, excuse you said, mate, come over 1253 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: all have a couple of beers and jump in the chacuzzi. 1254 00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,480 Speaker 1: I turn up. I had one or two beers, but 1255 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: I tear what the chacuzi like a laxa. 1256 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to well. 1257 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,439 Speaker 3: Joe text me his reckons they used to they called 1258 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 3: you guys, called yourselves Bedsi, you and him the three Musketeers. 1259 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 3: And he asked me to ask Yujo about the Darwin 1260 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 3: trip you did. Was there a trip to Darwin? 1261 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we went to Darwin a few times, spreading the 1262 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 4: rugby league gospel. So Joey, myself and Betsy and yeah, 1263 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 4: I just had great time, just hot weather, having fun. 1264 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 4: Betsy met Chris's. I've heard that in the nightclub. But 1265 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,160 Speaker 4: we had great time doing that. But we we beds 1266 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 4: and I would drive Joey to train and a fair 1267 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,120 Speaker 4: buddy his lordship couldn't drive. 1268 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, make him live and then he's the sort of bloke, 1269 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 1: Joey that you'll be driving a training You've you've you've 1270 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: driven that road a million times, but he's still sitting 1271 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: in the team. 1272 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 2: Which way to go? Go left to you left? Yeah, mate, 1273 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 2: telling the story right? 1274 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: Excuse the trial game And that went down to Notoriety 1275 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,240 Speaker 1: where he went and played a trial game and Joey 1276 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: said to Beds, don't worry, you don't have to play. 1277 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,160 Speaker 4: I was, I was. I wasn't there for that one. 1278 00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 4: But that was in Brisbane, sorry, in Darwin as well, 1279 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 4: and they had they had a trial and they weren't playing. 1280 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 4: So I think they had a two day long then drinks. 1281 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 2: And of course talking about benders. 1282 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 1: Your wedding, who could forget about that? 1283 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,440 Speaker 4: So the boys the night before, the boys got a 1284 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 4: bit excited. My wedding party was my brother mate Maka 1285 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,959 Speaker 4: and Bedsie and Joey and yeah, we were having fun. 1286 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 4: And I went to bed and the boys just stayed 1287 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 4: in the house and drank a bit longer than probably 1288 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 4: most groomed. It has a fun day. It's became a 1289 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 4: bit of a legendary. 1290 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Shoes you read me and goes mate, you've got a suit. 1291 01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: I haven't, but I can get one, He goes mate. 1292 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Because these two blokes, he goes, I don't know if 1293 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to. 1294 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 5: Make it and make the anticipation because we knew Joey 1295 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 5: could sort of hold himself together. But mate Bensy completely 1296 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 5: loses his ship and everyone's waiting at the church and 1297 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 5: everyone knows it's gone around anyway. The car turns up 1298 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,439 Speaker 5: and going, oh, here we go, poor old Beds mate. 1299 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 5: He dragged to the altar, Paul. 1300 01:00:51,240 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 4: Normally it should be the bride. Everyone's looking at putting this. Yeah, 1301 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 4: but yeah, just just fun times and Joey, you know, 1302 01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 4: he's done. He's always done anything for me, you know, 1303 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 4: and very grateful for the friendship. And yeah, we lived close, 1304 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,160 Speaker 4: so we had lots of amazing times, lots of fun, 1305 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 4: but also had lots of success. 1306 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 3: And it was just because it's a very unique thing 1307 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 3: in Newcastle, like people don't people at other clubs don't 1308 01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 3: realize it untill they actually come to Newcastle. A lot 1309 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,200 Speaker 3: of chat with Tyson Gamble about this when he first 1310 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 3: come to the club. But everyone lives within even if 1311 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 3: you're a little while away, it's within fifteen minutes of 1312 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 3: training generally, so everyone lives so close together you always 1313 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 3: around each other. You don't see that as much as 1314 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,480 Speaker 3: at other clubs. Maybe clubs that are similar, like Cowboys 1315 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 3: up in towns will possibly. It's a very unique thing 1316 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 3: to have at a football club in the NRL. 1317 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, very unique. And I you know, I think if 1318 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 4: you go to another club you experience other you realize 1319 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 4: how good that environment was and is. And that was 1320 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 4: a yeah, it was a great time. 1321 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Jab Now the stories that were thrown him before we 1322 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,920 Speaker 1: bid our dear friend for. 1323 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 3: Will actually a little quiz prepared for you, just three questions. 1324 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 3: And I didn't want to. I was going to do 1325 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 3: a game where rattle off your list of teammates. But 1326 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 3: you're too good a bloke. I know you don't want 1327 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 3: to put. 1328 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 4: On that game was coming. 1329 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, No I'm not. 1330 01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 4: I was picturing I won't to do a better teammate 1331 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 4: Maddie or Joie or is that the game? 1332 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,520 Speaker 3: I know how much I know how much you love 1333 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 3: your team. I'm not going to do that to you. 1334 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 3: But I got only I only finished on the second question. 1335 01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 3: This is for a funny reason. Actually, Game two in Sydney, 1336 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 3: the Blues return Serve twenty six eighteen, You guys won 1337 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 3: from a seventy thousand You're playing fullback who was the 1338 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 3: debutante that game for New South Wales. For New South Wales. Yeah, 1339 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,160 Speaker 3: so your your forward power in the forwards. Yes, it 1340 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 3: was Ogre. Now to fact check this, I actually text 1341 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,920 Speaker 3: Ogre and just to check it. He goes, Yep, that 1342 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 3: is correct. I think I've still got the most meters recorded. 1343 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 3: He proceeded to send me a photo of him celebrating 1344 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 3: someone's try and then sent me the stats from two 1345 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 3: thousand and one. 1346 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 2: He's all time Ogre, He's all time. 1347 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 4: From memory with had a massive night. We're having a 1348 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 4: massive night and the paper was in the pub and 1349 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 4: it was a big article on Ogre. Bean off the drink. 1350 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 2: Those ones we always goes off the drink hue. Where 1351 01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 2: can people get the beanies? 1352 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 4: Yeah? So best place is lows right across Australia selected 1353 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 4: I g a selected woolworst or online or most of all, 1354 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,520 Speaker 4: come to the games over across the bean around and 1355 01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 4: grab your beanies. Get on the Marquis Foundation website. We'd 1356 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,240 Speaker 4: love your support. 1357 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 3: That's at Mark Yu's foundation, dot com, dodau. 1358 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: And the business the gym. If people are heading up 1359 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: to Newcastle, yeap. 1360 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,560 Speaker 4: So I've got air locker guitar if you want to 1361 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 4: come in and do an air locker session. 1362 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've done a few. It's a it's great training, 1363 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 3: really good training, especially if you're going to go on 1364 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 3: something like a trek as well. 1365 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 4: Cooper came in the other weekend. 1366 01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 2: I heard. I heard it. 1367 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: He wasn't as good as the older bloke. I heard 1368 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: he disgraced himself. 1369 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you got a bit sick. 1370 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 2: Isn't funny? It run in there going? Oh I made 1371 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 2: here we go. 1372 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: We've got an X bloke recently retired in our role 1373 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: player and he's the one vomiting. 1374 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 4: Here's the vomiting and the other thing I'm doing, Maddie. 1375 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,080 Speaker 4: I'm doing corporate speaking and stuff for corporate so people 1376 01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 4: out there want to hear my story. I'd love to 1377 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,479 Speaker 4: do that. It's something that I am passionate about. 1378 01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 2: I've heard so heard you give a couple of those talks. 1379 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 2: It's fantastic. 1380 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, unreal, all right, thank you very much, Usy. 1381 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 4: This has been a pleasure. Here's mate, Thank you Jack, Maddie. 1382 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 2: Here's he always great to say. 1383 01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 4: Thanks for everything, Mate, I really appreciate it. On your comrade, 1384 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 4: thank you. 1385 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:30,840 Speaker 3: Thanks com