1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,281 Speaker 1: Apod Shape Production. 2 00:00:22,841 --> 00:00:25,921 Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Am I A Bad Mom? 3 00:00:26,361 --> 00:00:27,281 Speaker 1: Podcast? 4 00:00:28,281 --> 00:00:31,081 Speaker 3: I did your trick where you say, put their lunch bags, 5 00:00:31,081 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: you know, like the proper like lunch bags. Put them 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,841 Speaker 3: in the dishwasher like you said to do, like just 7 00:00:35,921 --> 00:00:37,161 Speaker 3: put a load on and all the rest. 8 00:00:37,241 --> 00:00:38,201 Speaker 4: Now they came out alright. 9 00:00:38,361 --> 00:00:39,881 Speaker 1: I put them in the washing machine. 10 00:00:39,881 --> 00:00:43,001 Speaker 4: Oh I think you told me, dishwasher. That's hats fuck 11 00:00:43,241 --> 00:00:45,241 Speaker 4: well Sam, dish washer. It came up still good. 12 00:00:45,441 --> 00:00:47,561 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, lunch doesn't take. 13 00:00:47,361 --> 00:00:49,641 Speaker 3: The mold out of them, though, the mold spots, like 14 00:00:49,681 --> 00:00:52,401 Speaker 3: the tiny little when I'm saying mold, I don't send 15 00:00:52,441 --> 00:00:54,801 Speaker 3: my kids with mold inside. But it was just like 16 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,321 Speaker 3: the fabric on the outside of a lunch bag. It 17 00:00:58,401 --> 00:01:00,241 Speaker 3: had tiny little spots on it, and I was hoping 18 00:01:00,281 --> 00:01:01,641 Speaker 3: that that maybe it would have come out in the 19 00:01:01,681 --> 00:01:02,281 Speaker 3: washing machine. 20 00:01:02,321 --> 00:01:03,641 Speaker 4: But do you know what I did? Threw it out, 21 00:01:04,481 --> 00:01:06,401 Speaker 4: so bad of me, and then I got them one 22 00:01:06,441 --> 00:01:07,841 Speaker 4: for a Christmas present. 23 00:01:08,521 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do that. 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,521 Speaker 2: Christmas is so bloody expensive, and then there's still stuff 25 00:01:12,521 --> 00:01:15,401 Speaker 2: you need to but I put it underwear, nickers and socks, 26 00:01:15,401 --> 00:01:16,801 Speaker 2: and they're stocking every. 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 4: Year every year. 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,241 Speaker 3: I feel like that's a present that's like almost generations 29 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,681 Speaker 3: like handed down. You just knew that you didn't have 30 00:01:24,761 --> 00:01:28,081 Speaker 3: to buy if you were running short on undies towards 31 00:01:28,121 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 3: the back end of the year, you knew you didn't 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: have to buy any because Mum would have always bought it. Like, 33 00:01:31,961 --> 00:01:33,321 Speaker 3: no matter what age. 34 00:01:33,161 --> 00:01:34,761 Speaker 4: One still does it. It's random. 35 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: She brought me two pairs of undies and put them 36 00:01:36,881 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: in my I was like, why did you buy me undies? 37 00:01:39,041 --> 00:01:41,041 Speaker 3: Because we just It's always something that you need. 38 00:01:40,961 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: But it's also something that you don't buy for yourself. 39 00:01:43,801 --> 00:01:47,401 Speaker 2: I remember reading something recently and it said, don't worry 40 00:01:47,481 --> 00:01:49,801 Speaker 2: about that cute little outfit for your kid. 41 00:01:50,121 --> 00:01:51,041 Speaker 1: You need a new bra. 42 00:01:52,161 --> 00:01:52,481 Speaker 4: I know. 43 00:01:53,321 --> 00:01:56,481 Speaker 3: I've got a friend she was saying that her husband 44 00:01:56,521 --> 00:01:59,681 Speaker 3: has worn these pair of undies for twelve years. 45 00:02:00,001 --> 00:02:03,521 Speaker 4: They've lasted twelve years. Comfortable, that's what he calls them. Comfy. 46 00:02:03,721 --> 00:02:06,761 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like this on joke because they're like 47 00:02:06,841 --> 00:02:09,561 Speaker 3: they've got holes in them onsides, like wear his hips up. 48 00:02:09,601 --> 00:02:11,881 Speaker 4: We still won't give them up to twelve years. 49 00:02:12,081 --> 00:02:14,761 Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing has held You might as well just wear 50 00:02:14,841 --> 00:02:16,561 Speaker 3: nothing because nothing's being held together. 51 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Want a return on your investment, though, twelve twelve years. 52 00:02:19,601 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: Twelve years. I'm all for paying more at the start. 53 00:02:23,481 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: If you are going to get more of aware out 54 00:02:25,881 --> 00:02:29,841 Speaker 3: of them, not just knickers, but like anything. But twelve 55 00:02:29,881 --> 00:02:33,041 Speaker 3: years out of one pery drugs, that's a solid effort. 56 00:02:33,121 --> 00:02:36,481 Speaker 2: I've got some pretty horrible underwear now I think about it. 57 00:02:36,601 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's comfortable. 58 00:02:38,041 --> 00:02:50,321 Speaker 5: How old are they where I am aut am? 59 00:02:50,361 --> 00:02:56,081 Speaker 2: I bad mum for not having any sympathy. As we know, 60 00:02:56,401 --> 00:02:59,601 Speaker 2: it took me about two years to convince my girls 61 00:02:59,601 --> 00:03:02,361 Speaker 2: to actually try and get a job, and now they 62 00:03:02,401 --> 00:03:07,761 Speaker 2: both have part time jobs smackers. Ye Holly, I'm finding 63 00:03:08,321 --> 00:03:11,361 Speaker 2: really builds it up before she has a shift, she 64 00:03:11,441 --> 00:03:15,521 Speaker 2: gets anxious, she gets worried about it. I said to 65 00:03:15,561 --> 00:03:18,881 Speaker 2: her on a couple of occasions, if you don't like 66 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,081 Speaker 2: it there and you don't want to do that job, 67 00:03:21,361 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: you need to find another job first. When you get 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,561 Speaker 2: offered that role, you can then quit this one. Yeah, 69 00:03:27,601 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: you don't just quit after a few months. I had 70 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,481 Speaker 2: to do the whole chat about how it looks on 71 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,761 Speaker 2: your CV if you've gone to do a job and 72 00:03:34,801 --> 00:03:37,561 Speaker 2: then three weeks later you've left, and all the rest 73 00:03:37,561 --> 00:03:39,601 Speaker 2: of it, and the fact that it's so much easier 74 00:03:39,641 --> 00:03:41,721 Speaker 2: to get a job when you're in a job. I've 75 00:03:41,721 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: had all those conversations. I think what it turned out 76 00:03:44,921 --> 00:03:47,801 Speaker 2: to be was that she didn't really want any job. 77 00:03:50,561 --> 00:03:54,161 Speaker 2: So that's her, and Amelia just gets on with it 78 00:03:54,201 --> 00:03:54,921 Speaker 2: and goes. 79 00:03:54,761 --> 00:03:57,281 Speaker 3: Can we just talk about like the part that comes 80 00:03:57,281 --> 00:03:59,681 Speaker 3: with that, Katie is for someone that has sat and 81 00:03:59,721 --> 00:04:02,921 Speaker 3: watched your girls grow. It's so funny to hear you 82 00:04:02,961 --> 00:04:05,041 Speaker 3: say that, because in my hair. 83 00:04:05,241 --> 00:04:06,041 Speaker 1: It'd be the other way. 84 00:04:06,081 --> 00:04:08,081 Speaker 4: I had the roles reversed, right. 85 00:04:08,041 --> 00:04:11,081 Speaker 3: I had meals being a little bit more reserved, probably 86 00:04:11,081 --> 00:04:13,681 Speaker 3: not loving it, don't want to really go, I don't 87 00:04:13,681 --> 00:04:14,761 Speaker 3: want to get dirty. 88 00:04:14,481 --> 00:04:18,041 Speaker 4: Kind of vibe. Holly would never have picked it, I know. 89 00:04:18,321 --> 00:04:19,481 Speaker 1: Do you know what's so interesting? 90 00:04:19,521 --> 00:04:22,081 Speaker 2: Because I was exactly the same, and you would think 91 00:04:22,121 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: that by looking at the differences in them, that is 92 00:04:25,161 --> 00:04:28,841 Speaker 2: what you would assume. When they were in prep in 93 00:04:28,921 --> 00:04:32,721 Speaker 2: primary school, they were in class together, and I remember 94 00:04:32,761 --> 00:04:35,481 Speaker 2: they said, grade one, do you want to split them up? 95 00:04:35,521 --> 00:04:39,121 Speaker 2: And that was important to me because they're identical twins, 96 00:04:39,241 --> 00:04:42,161 Speaker 2: so no one really knew which one they were, and 97 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,161 Speaker 2: they kind of didn't have their own identity, and I 98 00:04:44,161 --> 00:04:46,241 Speaker 2: thought they'd be able to have their own friends. You know, 99 00:04:46,281 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: they'd be able to see what individually they're good at 100 00:04:49,481 --> 00:04:50,601 Speaker 2: and all the rest of it. 101 00:04:50,721 --> 00:04:53,681 Speaker 1: And so I agree, and I was exactly the same. 102 00:04:53,801 --> 00:04:55,641 Speaker 1: I was like, Amelia is going to really struggle. 103 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,721 Speaker 2: Colly's teacher said she walked in that day and she 104 00:05:00,081 --> 00:05:03,681 Speaker 2: just clung onto the bookcase and wouldn't move. She was 105 00:05:03,921 --> 00:05:07,241 Speaker 2: so overwhelmed by the fact that her sister wasn't there. 106 00:05:07,681 --> 00:05:10,281 Speaker 2: It was so interesting to me because she doesn't come 107 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,921 Speaker 2: across as that person. She comes across as the more 108 00:05:12,921 --> 00:05:13,681 Speaker 2: confident one. 109 00:05:13,801 --> 00:05:16,361 Speaker 3: When they're together and you put the two of them 110 00:05:16,401 --> 00:05:19,881 Speaker 3: together and they're dynamic, I would say that Hollywood come 111 00:05:19,921 --> 00:05:22,801 Speaker 3: across as being more dominant one. She was the one 112 00:05:22,801 --> 00:05:25,281 Speaker 3: that was happy to be the jokest, like step up 113 00:05:25,281 --> 00:05:28,081 Speaker 3: and like really when they're together in that dynamic, So 114 00:05:28,121 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: to even like think which is good, just means she's 115 00:05:31,041 --> 00:05:34,241 Speaker 3: growing and finding herself and doing all that stuff. 116 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 117 00:05:35,281 --> 00:05:37,801 Speaker 2: So they've come home from work one day, They've both 118 00:05:37,841 --> 00:05:41,081 Speaker 2: had a shift, and they said to me, oh my god, mom, 119 00:05:41,721 --> 00:05:46,441 Speaker 2: that was so stressful. It was so stressful. 120 00:05:46,761 --> 00:05:48,601 Speaker 1: I was like, what job were you on? Fries? 121 00:05:49,361 --> 00:05:55,361 Speaker 2: Oh it's stressful, really, Yeah, because everybody wants fries. Every 122 00:05:55,401 --> 00:05:57,681 Speaker 2: customer that comes in they want fries, so you have 123 00:05:57,721 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: to keep up with the orders. 124 00:05:58,841 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: Jay has looked at me and gone. 125 00:06:00,401 --> 00:06:04,281 Speaker 2: So you take the frozen fries out of the freezer, 126 00:06:04,721 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: You put them in the fryer, you press the button 127 00:06:07,841 --> 00:06:11,721 Speaker 2: for it to start. It finishes after thirty seconds or 128 00:06:11,721 --> 00:06:14,841 Speaker 2: whatever it is, and then you hand them to them 129 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: in a cup. This is gonna be the least stressful 130 00:06:18,481 --> 00:06:21,121 Speaker 2: thing that you do. This is the least stressful job 131 00:06:21,241 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: you will ever have. 132 00:06:22,481 --> 00:06:25,281 Speaker 1: They argue with me, Rach, I've got no idea. 133 00:06:25,721 --> 00:06:29,721 Speaker 2: I was like, mate, I did chips on quiz night 134 00:06:29,921 --> 00:06:33,601 Speaker 2: at the local pub Juesday night. I know what it's 135 00:06:33,761 --> 00:06:36,801 Speaker 2: like to make fries for everyone, and you go home 136 00:06:36,841 --> 00:06:39,241 Speaker 2: and you stink and you have to wash your hair 137 00:06:39,281 --> 00:06:41,761 Speaker 2: because it smells like fried oil. 138 00:06:42,521 --> 00:06:44,281 Speaker 4: But I was like this, you got no idea. I've 139 00:06:44,281 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: got no idea. I was like, mate, I've never had 140 00:06:46,921 --> 00:06:48,561 Speaker 4: anything stressful in your life. 141 00:06:48,601 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: I have done so many jobs like that part time job. 142 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,841 Speaker 3: I just love that you're still explaining yourself about having 143 00:06:55,921 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: no idea, Like, why do they think at that point 144 00:06:58,880 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: You've got no idea? 145 00:06:59,961 --> 00:07:01,241 Speaker 4: You've done nothing stressful. 146 00:07:01,281 --> 00:07:04,801 Speaker 3: You only raised two identical twins till at the age 147 00:07:04,801 --> 00:07:05,401 Speaker 3: of sixteen. 148 00:07:05,561 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: So far and you got no idea. 149 00:07:08,201 --> 00:07:11,401 Speaker 2: I've got no idea. It just blows my mind. And 150 00:07:11,441 --> 00:07:15,281 Speaker 2: they're so sure of themselves. You've got no idea. No, 151 00:07:15,601 --> 00:07:17,801 Speaker 2: you wouldn't have done this. I'm like, mate, you do 152 00:07:17,881 --> 00:07:20,801 Speaker 2: three hour shifts, Wait until you do eight hours. 153 00:07:21,481 --> 00:07:22,921 Speaker 4: Wait until you do eight hours. 154 00:07:22,921 --> 00:07:27,321 Speaker 3: Were they both on fries at the same time, so 155 00:07:27,721 --> 00:07:28,841 Speaker 3: don't even get me started. 156 00:07:28,841 --> 00:07:32,881 Speaker 2: When they're on bev cell. That's next level stress apparently, 157 00:07:33,721 --> 00:07:37,641 Speaker 2: And they will not hear me say this is the 158 00:07:37,721 --> 00:07:39,281 Speaker 2: least stressful thing you're ever gonna do. 159 00:07:39,921 --> 00:07:43,521 Speaker 3: I am not taking away because I understand that at 160 00:07:43,561 --> 00:07:48,801 Speaker 3: their age and their brain capacity, this is huge for them. 161 00:07:48,841 --> 00:07:51,521 Speaker 4: But gosh, it's just wonderful. 162 00:07:51,841 --> 00:07:55,521 Speaker 2: I find it very amusing when they look at what 163 00:07:55,561 --> 00:07:57,681 Speaker 2: shifts they've got for the next week and they go, 164 00:07:57,841 --> 00:08:00,921 Speaker 2: oh my god, it's like three and a half hours 165 00:08:01,001 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: that one. It seems so long. 166 00:08:03,761 --> 00:08:04,801 Speaker 1: I'm like, does it? 167 00:08:05,041 --> 00:08:08,201 Speaker 3: I imagine that three and a half hours if you 168 00:08:08,361 --> 00:08:10,841 Speaker 3: left the money in your account long enough to be 169 00:08:10,881 --> 00:08:12,761 Speaker 3: able to spend it over three and a half hours. 170 00:08:12,841 --> 00:08:15,161 Speaker 4: Like, there's both sides of it. For me, I was 171 00:08:15,241 --> 00:08:16,401 Speaker 4: so work. 172 00:08:16,161 --> 00:08:19,161 Speaker 3: And money driven at their age, I was like, yeah, no, 173 00:08:19,201 --> 00:08:22,321 Speaker 3: I gotta work because I love the money part of it, 174 00:08:22,681 --> 00:08:25,801 Speaker 3: Like I loved that reward part, Like I always understood 175 00:08:25,841 --> 00:08:29,041 Speaker 3: the reward part, but the stress lever I never really 176 00:08:29,201 --> 00:08:32,121 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't remember being super stressed at 177 00:08:32,161 --> 00:08:32,641 Speaker 3: their age. 178 00:08:32,801 --> 00:08:34,921 Speaker 2: I did say to them, I was like, really, if 179 00:08:34,961 --> 00:08:37,281 Speaker 2: you look at the black and white of it, you're 180 00:08:37,321 --> 00:08:42,761 Speaker 2: telling me that three hours making hot chips is stressful. 181 00:08:43,081 --> 00:08:44,361 Speaker 4: I think resilience building. 182 00:08:44,441 --> 00:08:47,081 Speaker 3: Go and take them on an excursion or a camp 183 00:08:47,201 --> 00:08:48,561 Speaker 3: or like climbing the mountain. 184 00:08:49,161 --> 00:08:51,721 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they need the second job. Yeah, it 185 00:08:51,801 --> 00:08:52,401 Speaker 1: should have been. 186 00:08:52,561 --> 00:08:56,801 Speaker 2: Am I a bad mum for not telling them about life? 187 00:08:58,081 --> 00:09:01,521 Speaker 2: I worked in a supermarket on the checkout and did 188 00:09:01,561 --> 00:09:02,561 Speaker 2: eight hour shifts? 189 00:09:02,921 --> 00:09:04,681 Speaker 4: Yeah I did. I think probably, I don't want to 190 00:09:04,681 --> 00:09:07,121 Speaker 4: say it. It might be illegal, but it's like I 191 00:09:07,121 --> 00:09:08,201 Speaker 4: did twelve hour days. 192 00:09:08,681 --> 00:09:10,761 Speaker 3: We did seven to seven on a Sunday because like 193 00:09:10,961 --> 00:09:14,681 Speaker 3: Sundays were extra I would work seven am until seven 194 00:09:14,761 --> 00:09:18,281 Speaker 3: pm at the cheesecake shop, solid because I was like, 195 00:09:18,281 --> 00:09:21,121 Speaker 3: oh that's cash money for me. Yeah, but that was 196 00:09:21,161 --> 00:09:23,041 Speaker 3: like the longest twelve hours of my life. 197 00:09:23,121 --> 00:09:26,841 Speaker 2: Yeah, so boring, so boring, stressful. 198 00:09:27,001 --> 00:09:33,001 Speaker 3: Cutting up cheesecakes, taking Pablo over out of the Ovenlike. 199 00:09:32,281 --> 00:09:34,961 Speaker 2: One day you will wish you were doing a three 200 00:09:35,001 --> 00:09:36,001 Speaker 2: hour shift on fries. 201 00:09:36,321 --> 00:09:39,961 Speaker 3: Yeah, fries. Do you know the most stressful part of 202 00:09:40,001 --> 00:09:42,001 Speaker 3: that for me? If I was on fries would be 203 00:09:42,041 --> 00:09:43,161 Speaker 3: not to have one. 204 00:09:43,561 --> 00:09:46,521 Speaker 4: That would be stressful. I'd be making there. I'd like, 205 00:09:47,481 --> 00:09:52,601 Speaker 4: well for me, right, stress on not eating? That would 206 00:09:52,601 --> 00:09:52,801 Speaker 4: be me. 207 00:09:53,721 --> 00:09:55,361 Speaker 3: But if you had to do a three hour shift 208 00:09:55,401 --> 00:09:57,441 Speaker 3: at mc donald's, what area would you be in? 209 00:09:58,481 --> 00:10:00,841 Speaker 1: I'd want to make the burgers. Oh, no, drive three, 210 00:10:01,001 --> 00:10:01,521 Speaker 1: drive through? 211 00:10:01,681 --> 00:10:04,401 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think I'd want to be in front 212 00:10:04,441 --> 00:10:06,761 Speaker 3: counter because that would then include cleaning the toilets. And 213 00:10:06,841 --> 00:10:10,601 Speaker 3: everybody knows that McDonald's toilets when like your kids are 214 00:10:10,641 --> 00:10:12,241 Speaker 3: busting and they're like about to. 215 00:10:12,241 --> 00:10:13,481 Speaker 4: Like shit their pants or something. 216 00:10:13,601 --> 00:10:16,001 Speaker 3: Your lives are like McDonald's pull in quick and they 217 00:10:16,081 --> 00:10:16,921 Speaker 3: destroy the toilet. 218 00:10:16,921 --> 00:10:19,641 Speaker 1: Do you know what that job is called Keo's Coast. 219 00:10:20,001 --> 00:10:21,361 Speaker 4: Yeah, Keio's Coast. 220 00:10:21,481 --> 00:10:23,961 Speaker 2: They make it stressful, So good. 221 00:10:24,161 --> 00:10:25,321 Speaker 4: Not doing that role. 222 00:10:25,521 --> 00:10:28,361 Speaker 3: Oh, make burger's out the back face absolutely