1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Only five points now separate our championships title contenders, and 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: while Bielberg didn't provide us with the Hollywood blockbuster we anticipated, 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: there's always more than meets the ie At the Red 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Bull Ring, I'm your host, Ronita Vanmillen, and here is 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: the man who can make any Motor GP drama worthy 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: of an Oscar nomination. Matt Clayton, Matt Tartans and I 7 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: Pekervanaya not being the star this weekend. 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: He's just too good when he's in a mood like this. 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: Rerenda is knee. You know what he's going to do, 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: and it's the thing with him, you know his m 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: at this point. Knowing what he's going to do and 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: then attempting to prevent it are two totally different things. 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: But that bike, that rider, and this particular circuit we 14 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: kind of saw it coming ahead of the weekend. It 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 2: did live up to expectations. But he's just so relentless 16 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: when he gets in a mood like this that even 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: Jorge Martin with two working thumbs would have been struggling 18 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: to stop him this weekend, but with only one of them, 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: that made things a little bit more difficult, didn't it. 20 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: But you certainly can't deny the guy's class. And I 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: don't know about you, but the thing for me is, I'm 22 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: kind of still stunned that he's only five points in 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: the Leader of the Championship because it feels like he's 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: been dominant now for probably the second half of this 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: first half of the season, if that makes sense, and 26 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: you look at the standing because he's only five points 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 2: in the ascendency, So there's still hope for everybody else, 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: but maybe a little less hope as we go. 29 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: Rice by Rice, I agree. I think you know, we 30 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: see Peco Bannoy as he is, you know, a two 31 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: time world champion, the reigning world champion, we do expect 32 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: him to be that bit further along in a championship. 33 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: But Bohe Martin is pushing Peco this year. They're both 34 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: working on themselves. They're both working those those millimeters and 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: that's literally what we're talking about is like the smallest 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: amounts that they can improve each track each weekend that 37 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: they go to. And that's why it's such an epic 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: battle within the championship. Maybe not so much on track 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: this weekend, but where these writers are going, it's going 40 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: to be one of those two that I don't think 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: in any Bashnini's definitely in this title content engine anymore. 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: We know Mark Marquez, he can push and we might 43 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: see a win or two from him this year, but 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: he's definitely not going to be on that top step 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. But it's out of 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: Jorge and Peco and it's whoever's going to come out 47 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 1: strongest at the end of the year. 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think you've nailed 49 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: it with an Ara and with Mark there I can 50 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: see them having the speed on a particular weekend to 51 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: maybe sniper win here and there, so they could change 52 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: the complexion of the championship fight. But it's very hard 53 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: to look past either Bagnyai or Martine and the standard 54 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: these two guys are operating at the moment. We saw 55 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: that in qualifying at Spielberg, where Jorge Martin just absolutely 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: annihilated the circuit record in qualifying to get to the 57 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: twenty sevens. Bagnai was right there with him, and the 58 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: stat that showed just what a level these two are 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: operating on. Mark Marquez was third on the grid. He's 60 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 2: about five and a half tenths back from Martin. That's 61 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: the biggest gap between second and third on the grid 62 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: in seven years, and so you can see how these 63 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: two are just in this class of their own. At 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: the front, they're pushing each other to new heights. They're 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: smashing circuit records all over the place, and someone as 66 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: good as Marquez with the risks that he will take 67 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: over one lap, he's over half a second a drift. 68 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 2: He's just kind of nowhere. And there's this real fight 69 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: at the top between the two of them because they're 70 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: pushing each other and the sport to times and boundaries 71 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: we haven't really seen before. So full credit to both 72 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: of them. But yeah, it's going to be one of 73 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: those two, isn't it. But the best part about it 74 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: for us and all the fans, of course, it's still 75 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: so close with nine rounds to go, despite how dominant 76 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: Vanya has been on Sundays lately. 77 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Exactly, I think that this track it suited Peco. Like 78 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: you said, we knew that going into this weekend, But 79 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: what I found so fascinating was he actually had the 80 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: traction control turned down this weekend. He wanted to really 81 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: ride the bike how he felt comfortable, and classic Peco 82 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: is to slide the rear. That's how he loves riding 83 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: his bikes and his Jew caddie this track because the 84 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: breaking is so heavy. The Jew Caddies and the GP 85 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: twenty fours in particular, they love the Michelin rear tire. 86 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: How that works is he could turn the traction off, 87 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: really ride that rear tire, slide it into those corners, 88 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: get that corner entry, and that's where we found that 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: he was just so much stronger than Jorge Martin going 90 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: into literally every corner on this track. I think that 91 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: we're seeing now the difference a lot more between the 92 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: GP twenty fours and the GP twenty threes. The GP 93 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: twenty fours they love the new Michelins, they love the 94 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: Michelin rear. This weekend, Peco being him his riding soul, 95 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: it just everything matched up perfect for him. Apart from 96 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: that qualifying lab where jo Hey Justice snubbed him for 97 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: that whole position, Peco was really really on the mark. 98 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: Well, and you know the way he operates too. I 99 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: love the fact that he will explore every possibility in 100 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: a chance to try and get that little sliver of 101 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: an advantage over Martin. I think we've said this on 102 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: previous podcasts. If I had to pick one of these 103 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: guys to ride a lot for my life, I'm still 104 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: probably picking Martine because I think he's a fast the 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: naturally quicker of the two. Banyaira is this perfect combination 106 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: of He's like the ultimate sort of thinking person's Ridery 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: analyzes every possibility of how to go about extracting a lap, 108 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 2: even if it means riding in a style that's maybe 109 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: contrary to what he would prefer to ride. He will 110 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 2: change what he's doing based on the circuit, based on 111 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: the tire construction. Obviously, Austria is such a one of 112 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: one in terms of the track layer, heartbreaking slow corners 113 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: is basically seventy five percent of the lap. Probably not 114 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: the way he would prefer to ride, but he's so 115 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: adaptable now and so smart, and what I thought was 116 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 2: really interesting in addition to what you were saying there, 117 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: he said after the race he's done heaps of work 118 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: on riding with a full fuel tank to try and 119 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: understand how the bike feels when it's its heaviest at 120 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: the start of the race, because the start of the 121 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: race is where he feels he can make a difference 122 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: against Martine because they're so evenly matched in other aspects 123 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: that what he does in those first two or three 124 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 2: laps when the bikes super heavy and the tires are 125 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: super fresh. He's done a lot of work on that 126 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: through practice sessions, and you look at the way both 127 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: the races played out over the course of Spielberg weekend. 128 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: He didn't lead the first lap in either, but he 129 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 2: was ahead after he said, on lap two in both 130 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: races and didn't get challenged for that top spot for 131 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: the rest of the weekend. And that's riding a bike 132 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: with brand new ties on a very very heavy fuel tank. 133 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: Obviously less in the sprinks, you don't have to carry 134 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: as much. But it's interesting that he's drilling down on 135 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: these most minute of details in an attempt to get 136 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: an advantage over Martin, because there is so little to 137 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: choose between these two. They're clearly in a class of 138 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: their own. But Banyayi is just pulling up every rock 139 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: that he can to try and find you a meta 140 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: here at a meter there. You add that up over 141 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: twenty eight laps and you get what we saw on Sunday. 142 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: It's a shame that Johe Martin kind of gave Peckert 143 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: Vagnay his own advantage this weekend with that bizarre cut 144 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: on his hands that happened in the shower. You don't 145 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: hear of these weird injuries very often. Think about I 146 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: think about Alex Rinz when he crashed his push by texting, 147 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: broke his arm or his wrist. Valentino Rossi's stepping through 148 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: a glass table. Like, there's weird accents that happen, but 149 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: then there's cutting your hand in the shower and requiring stitches. 150 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: Of those who don't know you might just think, oh, well, 151 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: he can just use his right hands. It's so different 152 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: on a MOTODP bike because they use their left hand 153 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: for so many things. Joe Martin he uses a rear 154 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: thumb brake, okay, instantly, that's his left hand. They have 155 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: to change engine mapping things like this while they're writing. 156 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: That's with their left thumb as well. Plus the rear 157 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: right height device, which you guys would have seen a 158 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: lot this weekend because they can manually use that on 159 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: tracks and they use it a lot here. So my 160 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: thought is how much did this really effect je Martin? Hey, 161 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: he got second On Sunday, he wrote, incredible was Peco 162 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: really in a class of his own, or did this 163 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: thumb injury really kind of just give Peco that advantage. 164 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't that? The Alex riddswad. It makes 165 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: me giggle every time I think about it. It's like 166 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: every bizarre misshappeno GP. We should have like the Rins scale, 167 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: and you know, you rate things on like the Richter 168 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: scale for earthquake. Nothing's ever going to beat the Alex 169 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: Rins running into texting and running into a stationary vehicle. 170 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: But it's interesting because I'm not sure necessarily that Martin's 171 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: result or his whole weekend would have changed that much 172 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: had he have had two operational thumbs rather than one, 173 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: because you would back him to get pole in a 174 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: straight fight, but over a race incidence at that track 175 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: against Banyaira, I kind of feel that second was the 176 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: best it was ever going to be. Maybe the margins 177 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: would have been a little bit smaller. We saw what 178 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: happened in the sprint where he made a mistake because 179 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: he was so desperate to stay in front on lap 180 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: two and then didn't drop far enough behind, got hit 181 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: with a long lap and managed to get himself back 182 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 2: up to second anyway, So I'm not sure if the 183 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: points that he would have got out of this weekend 184 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: would have changed necessarily. Would he have challenged vanyay more? Probably, 185 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: but I don't think at this particular circuit that he 186 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: necessarily had an answer for Vanyayra over a sprint or 187 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: race distance. But yeah, of all the injuries we hear 188 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: in Moto GP, falling over in the shower is a 189 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: new one. Godlan knows what he actually cut himself with, 190 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: because it certainly wasn't for the squeamish. I did see 191 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: the social post that he put up on I think 192 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: it was Saturday morning, and it was not one you 193 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: wanted to see why you're eating anything? It was pretty gruesome, 194 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: wasn't it. 195 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: It was not funny. If you want to go check 196 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: that out, head to Jues social media. You can see 197 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: that for. 198 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: I've seen it once and that was enough. 199 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: I think he did require stitches, so if you can't 200 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: see it, just know they it needed stitches. So it's 201 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: a big injury, right, But in the shower, Abiza, but 202 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: what about you could just see how sore it was. 203 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: But when he was trying to get his glove on 204 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: and off for qualifying on Saturday. It was excruciating watching 205 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: it because he was having to like bide his tongue. 206 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: All Right, I've got to get this thing off, but 207 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to have to put some pressure on it. It 208 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: was awful just watching it. So trying to manhandle a 209 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: one hundred and sixty kilo motor GP bike and using 210 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 2: the thumb break, as you said, around a track that's 211 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 2: got such extremes stopping and starting characteristics the Red Bull Ring. Yeah, 212 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: certainly a bit of adrenaline and a little bit of 213 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 2: pinkillers probably helped. But yeah, I think you'll be very, 214 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: very glad that we don't have a back to back 215 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: this coming weekend. 216 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you someone who is glad on the upcoming 217 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: race is going to be Mark Marquez. And let's not 218 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: talk about Arragon just yet. Let's talk about this weekend, 219 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: not the weekend he wanted. In the sprint, he did 220 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: crash out, but he said that was him pushing. He 221 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: said he felt comfortable, felt confident, just wanted to have 222 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: a go. He's very adamant that this weekend, h sorry, 223 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: this year is all about him understanding the ju caddies. 224 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: He's learning, he's not going out there to try and 225 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: smash records, and we can see that. But what happened 226 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday was just crazy and it's something that you 227 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: kind of don't really expect, but you forget that he 228 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: is still part of a satellite team. He's not part 229 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: of the factory Jucaddi garage, right, so for those who 230 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: don't know, he couldn't engage the right high device. But 231 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: why that was because when they were on the start 232 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: line prepping, you know, doing everything, the front tire valve 233 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: had actually broke, so that the team you could see 234 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: them scrambling around, they had to go and get another wheel. 235 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: What happened with this was the new tire wasn't heated up, 236 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: so when Mark went out on the outlap, he had 237 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: to do some heavy braking essentially to drive heat into 238 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: that front tire. But at some point coming back onto 239 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: the grid, he grabbed too much front break to get 240 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: heat into that front tire. He engaged the whole shot 241 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: device too early, right, so then he's had to let 242 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: that go and as he's coming back onto the grid, 243 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: you can see him really trying to grab that front 244 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: break to him re engage front whole shot device. Just 245 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: wasn't happened, which is why he had that terrible start. 246 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: I want to talk about though, his progression because starting 247 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 1: from p. Three on the grid, once the lights went out, 248 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: I can't even use my words today, Matt. Once the 249 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: lights went out, he was back into me fourteen, had 250 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: that close collision with Morbidelli, and somehow made his way 251 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: back into p. 252 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: Four. 253 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: Not the weekend he wanted, but Ladiel, where Mark is 254 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: on it, he is on it. 255 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: It's like a dog with a bone is near in 256 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: a situation like that. But you could see that he 257 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: knew that he was in trouble before that start happened, 258 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: because he pulled up in his grid box and he 259 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: was looking at the front of the bike and looking 260 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: and looking and looking. He's like, oh, I know that 261 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: this thing hasn't engaged properly. So obviously the front wheel 262 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 2: came up off the start, had a Jack Miller behind 263 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: him on the KTM. The KTM's like a scalded cat 264 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: off the line. That thing's unbelievable. So Jack was passed 265 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: him really quickly. And you know the way that first 266 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 2: corner is at Austria, very sort of quite tight ninety 267 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: degree right. He was always going to make contact with 268 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: somebody and probably get pushed out to the long lap 269 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 2: and the runoff area there. So by the time he 270 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: got to sect to one on the first lap, he's 271 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: gone from the front row of the grid to I 272 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 2: think he was fourteenth at that point, finished the first 273 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 2: lap in thirteenth and once you know, the bike was fine. 274 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: Once everything was as it should have been, the main 275 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 2: intrigue in the race was all right. We know that 276 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: he's not on a GP twenty four, but it's not 277 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 2: really a circuit. He's had a great amount of success 278 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 2: at as we were saying in our preview pod, but 279 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: how far up the order could he get and from 280 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: how far back he was? It was pretty awesome to 281 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: see him coming through, taking on some of the GP 282 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: twenty fours, like going past Marco Pozeki and these sorts 283 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 2: of guys. And there's not too many left handers on 284 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: this track as we know, but Mark in left handers 285 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: is absolutely awesome. And watching him through six and seven 286 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: and eight, you know, the real sort of high speed, 287 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: high speed inverticomas corners of note on this particular track, 288 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: watching the ground that he was making up on guys 289 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: lap after lap was pretty awesome. So he's about six 290 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: seconds off the podium there with Bastinini in third. You 291 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: would have to think with a less compromise start that 292 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: he would have been probably third and maybe challenging Martine. 293 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: It's hard to say really with the way his race 294 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: panned out, but he definitely injected a bit of intrigue 295 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: into that race because there wasn't much of it up 296 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 2: the front after about the first ten laps. But every 297 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: time you look at the timing tower, he was just 298 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: climbing further and further and further towards the top. And now, 299 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: as you said before, this is a year that he's said, 300 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: it's a year of learning. He's not expecting, not expecting 301 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: to win things and what have you. If this is 302 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: what we've got when Marcus is a little bit half 303 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: cooked by back that he doesn't really know, well, there's 304 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: a lot to look forward to next year, isn't there. 305 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: I found it so fascinating, like you said, watching his progression, 306 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: but watching how much thought he was putting into literally 307 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: every overtake, every corner, what was happening. So he did 308 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: most of his overtaking into the chicane into two A, 309 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: but he would actually start to set up his overtakes 310 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: back at turn ten. He would try and get as 311 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: close as he could to the person who was in 312 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: front of him right just purely so that they could 313 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: hear him. So as he's coming down the street, they're like, oh, 314 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: he's right behind me, I'm going to or he's going 315 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: to make a turn overtaken to turn one, but he 316 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't do it, so then they're going, oh, something's happened, 317 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: maybe he's gone. They'd relax a bit. Then he'd go 318 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: straight into the chicane, and because the chicane is such 319 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: a slow area, by the time he's overtaken them, he's 320 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: already got so much momentum that they can't fight back. 321 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: And I'm going, this is the smart mark. We haven't 322 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: seen this from him in so long. But it was 323 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: so interesting that. Okay, he didn't get the race he wanted, 324 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: but seeing these little moves happen throughout the race, Okay, 325 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: he is learning, he's growing. Next year on that GP 326 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: twenty five, it is going to be something phenomenal. But 327 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned Jack Miller there, so we need to talk 328 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: about Ozzie Jack Miller because best qualifying or equal best 329 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: qualifying he's had all year on the grid and he 330 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 1: was on his way to an amazing, incredible result and 331 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: just a silly mistake once again. 332 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Look, I think it's one of those 333 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: weekends that even listening to him afterwards, you know, you're 334 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: not going to get too excited when you finished nineteenth, 335 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: are you? But I think it was the pace and 336 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: the fact that it felt like it was achievable and 337 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: pretty repeatable over the course of the weekend. You he 338 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: came through Q one, remember, to get to fifth on 339 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 2: the grid and you know, really really strong, they're really 340 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: good sprint. The only you know, it's only he and 341 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: Alasia Spargo that were sort of in that mix of 342 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 2: to Catt. He's in the sprint and he ran fourth 343 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: of the first seven laps of the race and dropped 344 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: behind Bender and bet Sat and had that little brush 345 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 2: with Mark Marquez as well, where Mark's arm hit Jack's 346 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: reattire there at the Chicune at two A and two B, 347 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, but disappointing. He was trying to obviously 348 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: preserve the rear tire by carrying a little bit more 349 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: entry speed into those corners and you know, maybe not 350 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: cooking the rear tire on the way out, and even 351 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: his pace, his lap times after a crash, right, he's 352 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 2: still really good. He just shipped so much time at 353 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: that point. So I think in isolation, it's another difficult 354 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: Sunday for Jack, but I think his pace over the 355 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: course of the weekend was pretty good. It looked pretty 356 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 2: believable and repeatable. Obviously very very costly mistake, but he 357 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: wasn't as downcast about a result like that as he 358 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: normally has been in the past, because I think he 359 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: feels that there was something there this weekend that he 360 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: had found. He's talked about getting more confidence that was 361 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 2: pretty battered around after a couple of DNFs that he'd 362 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: had earlier in the season. So the pace was good. 363 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 2: The performance or the result sorry, was not. But you'd 364 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: have to say that things are looking up for Jack 365 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: on track in the short term, perhaps certainly longer term 366 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: with what's possibly going to be happening next year for him, 367 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: which we may know before the next race. But look, 368 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: it was a positive weekend despot the result, but it 369 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: was just such a shame because I think he had 370 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: enough in reserve to probably hold off the likes of 371 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 2: Vignalees and Morbidelli's sixth, seventh, eight that sort of range, 372 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: and if he'd managed to finish probably six or seventh, 373 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 2: I think that's a really really good result given where 374 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: he has been this year. But just a shame it 375 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: didn't work out for him well. 376 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: This weekend, guys, you would have seen an extra KTM 377 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: on the grid with Paula Spargaro back, and surprisingly in 378 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: the earlier practices, even in qualifying, he was fast. Now 379 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: they did say he had the new spec engine and 380 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen that Batman inspired erro 381 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: that was coming off the back. I didn't quite understand that, 382 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: but it seemed to work for Pol the race, he 383 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: said that, you know, he's been doing a lot of 384 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: testing at Austria because the KTM head office is basically 385 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: just down the road right, and they were saying that 386 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: when he does his testing there he's setting some incredible 387 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: lap times. But his words were, I've forgotten what it's 388 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: like to race in a pack of a group of writers, 389 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: and that. 390 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: Is so true. 391 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: You know, you could see him on the site line. 392 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: He's really focused because it's not just him he has 393 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: to think about. It's everybody else. But it seems like 394 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: katm with having Pole there, they've obviously got Danny Padrousa. 395 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: They're starting to head in the right direction. 396 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: Now. Yeah, he was impressive the entire weekend, but I 397 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: think you hit the nail on the head there where 398 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 2: you just get ring rusty after not doing it for 399 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: a while, even someone who is as experienced as Pole is, 400 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: you know when you haven't. You did one race start 401 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: earlier in the year at Magello, but you do get 402 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: out of the habit of these things, and particularly a 403 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: track like this that you know, because of the nature 404 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 2: of the breaking zones, there is a lot of you know, 405 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: handlebar to handlebar, side by side stuff, which you know 406 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: you're not a soft target when you're not a full 407 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: time racer, but you're never going to be as sharp 408 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: as the guys that are doing this week in and 409 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: week out, And it's just so different to being able 410 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 2: to take whatever line you want when you're testing, churning 411 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: out lap times, lap after lap after lap. But I 412 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: thought he was actually pretty impressive. He was probably more 413 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: competitive than maybe we would have thought he would have 414 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: been heading into the weekend. I don't think too many 415 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: people would have had him beating Pedro Costa on the 416 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: similar bike over the course of the weekend, so that's 417 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: probably testament to the quality. But it was a stronger 418 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: weekend for KTM this weekend in Austria. Now how much 419 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 2: of that's down to the home track all the characteristics 420 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 2: of it, but Brad Bender was the leading non Ducati 421 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 2: in the race. He was the only Jucadi in in 422 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: the top six finishes. Obviously Jack was very good in 423 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 2: the sprint. So pretty positive weekend for KTM because there's 424 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: this weird chasm at the moment. I was going to 425 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 2: say it's the second tier, but I actually think it's 426 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 2: the third because you've got the GP twenty four ducaddies 427 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: in Tier one the twenty three decadies in Tier two. 428 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: But it's never particularly clear weekend to weekend whether it's 429 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: going to be a Priller or KTM that are sniping 430 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: for those back into the top five or maybe the 431 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 2: second row of the grid, and this weekend it was 432 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: much more KTM than Apriller. Despite the fact that Aleish 433 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: finished third in the sprint, I think KTM looked a 434 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: little bit more believable with their pace, so perhaps that's 435 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 2: a good sign for them. Going forward. But again, Austria 436 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: is such a weird track. It's such a one of 437 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: one that once we get to Aragon and then we 438 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: head off into the flyaways. It'll be interesting to see 439 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: if that's just a one off thing or whether they 440 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: can keep that momentum going. 441 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of weird tracks, let's talk about that bizarre crash 442 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: of Pedro Acossa's that happened on Friday, where he seemed 443 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: to just lose the front so early, and then afterwards 444 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: they were explaining that this weekend Michelin, because of this 445 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: Tyler track, it is they bought a much harder front. 446 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: We saw Alicia Spargo crash on that apparently, so Alex 447 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: Marquez went out, did a lap and decided no to 448 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: go back to a less heavier front. But Pedro Acosta 449 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: that really interesting crash that you can see on the 450 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Socials guys. He went out, did a lap, 451 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: tucked the front, crash, picked the bike up, did another lap, 452 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: and then on the flyer as he was going into 453 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: term four, it's like he breaked earlier than usual the front, 454 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: but super scary because he went down the hill, over 455 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: the grass back onto the track. I honestly don't know 456 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: how he walked away from that, because that was nasty. 457 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 2: That was one of those ones when you see it 458 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 2: as soon as you see it happening, you sit backwards 459 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: in your seat, or you know, I'm sitting here in 460 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 2: my office, like I literally pushed the rolling chair backwards 461 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: and went, oh my god, where's he going to end 462 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 2: up here? Because, as you said, it's a right angle 463 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: corner at the bottom of the hill there. You know 464 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: he's going to slide down the hill. The bike's got 465 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: a mine of its own. At that point, I'm thinking, 466 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: I really hope there's no one parked on the apex 467 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: It turn for as he's sliding down, because he just 468 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: needed time to scrub off the speed. But that was 469 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 2: a terrifying accident because it's not one where there's no 470 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: warning for it. You've not tipped it into the Chicaine 471 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: slow and lost the front like a lot of guys 472 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: sit over the course of the weekend. That thing just 473 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: went so fast, and afterwards they were saying that it 474 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: was primarily a cult tire because he'd already had the 475 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: spill on the previous lap. The arrow on that bike 476 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 2: looked a little second hand even before he'd had the 477 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: second crash, so you do have to wonder whether that 478 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: was part of it as well. But Pedro being pedro. 479 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: These twenty year old kids, it's pretty well, don't they 480 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: renew to he just afterwards, he said, Ah, you know, 481 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 2: it's not a big thing that you could walk out. 482 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: You could get hit by a bus. It's not that bad. 483 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: I'm fine, but I guess that's the mentality of a racer. 484 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 2: But that one was super, super scary. And there's something 485 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: about that track, and we talk about this last week 486 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: that you know, primarily it is a car track. There's 487 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: a lot of arm cauh at that place that is 488 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: a little uncomfortably close to the circuit. And yes, he 489 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: was sliding down the middle of the track. He wasn't 490 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: close to it, but I don't about you. Did you 491 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: see where his bike went. That thing slid and gain 492 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: speed as it went down the grass down the hill 493 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: and then hit the inside of the fencet. That could 494 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: have gone absolutely anywhere. So you know, we got away 495 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: with one there, He got away with one. Fortunately the 496 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: bike wasn't totally trash. But yeah, that was a real 497 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: heart and mouth moment because I think he was doing 498 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: the north of three hundred k's when he came off, 499 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: and yeah, that's pretty scary. 500 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: One of the I guess side effects to this track. 501 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the right word. Either negative 502 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 1: to this track is the track limits, right, It's very 503 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: common that this weekend everybody was having track limits and 504 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: Jogey Martin in the sprint and why went over track limits, 505 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: didn't come back, didn't do the one second gap and 506 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: was penalized with that with the long lap penalty. And 507 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: it was quite interesting because I was thinking about it, 508 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: if there was more grass on the side like there 509 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 1: used to be a long time ago in racing, the 510 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: bikes would either pick up speed and the rider could 511 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: control it and crash, or eventually they'd get into a 512 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: gravel trap and they would lose a lot of time. 513 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: And we could clearly see that with Pedro Acosta's crash. 514 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: Then thinking about Joge Martin and how he just managed 515 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: to touch it, come back, didn't make enough time, gets 516 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: that long lap penalty. Are we is it the right 517 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: thing to have these long lap penalties? Are they putting 518 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: enough time back in or is it kind of just 519 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: like the riders should know. What's your take on that 520 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: map because I'm kind of into mine's here. 521 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little bit the same in that I 522 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: think of it. I don't necessarily love it as a solution, 523 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: But then the question is, okay, so what could you 524 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: do this better? You've got to do something that's safe. 525 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: I mean grass, grass and or gravel in certain places 526 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: is fine, but not at some of those corners at 527 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: the Red Bull Ring. And it's just a conundrum with 528 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 2: that particular track. I think if you don't have the 529 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: sort of the sword of track limit penalties hanging over 530 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: these guys next, then people will take liberties because they 531 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: just will their races. It's the way it works, and 532 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: so it's kind of it's like the least worst option, 533 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: if that makes sense. It's an imperfect solution and it's 534 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 2: not one that I absolutely love, but I'm yet to 535 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: think of or hear an alternative from elsewhere that is 536 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 2: a better outcome. So we're kind of stuck with it. 537 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: And it's only something that happens at particular tracks of 538 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 2: just the nature of the corner layer, and this circuit 539 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: is probably the most extreme one for that. But yeah, 540 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: I look, I can't I don't meet you. I can't 541 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 2: think of a better solution to it. So we're kind 542 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: of stuck with it. But reluctantly you'd have to say, well. 543 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of the long lap penalties, let's talk about Motor 544 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: two and Motor three because there were so many track 545 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: limits warnings. I could and keep up, especially in Motor three. 546 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: If you look to the side of the time, he's 547 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: green Litule Triangle pretty much all the way down. But 548 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: Joel Kelso Moto III, we can't talk with it about 549 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: I want to start that again. We can't not talk 550 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: about Joel Kelso's qualifying P two on the grid was 551 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: leading the race, phenomenal. This is the confidence. This is 552 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: what we need to see from Joel Kelso. It feels 553 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: like everything's starting to click for him. He just needs 554 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: to get that mid race distance. Actually, we were talking 555 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: about it during the race. He needs to get that 556 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: race distance onwards. There's something that needs to click. Time management. 557 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but it seems like he's nailing that start. 558 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: He's heading in that right direction. 559 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: It's nice that we're at this point of the conversation 560 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: with Joel and we're not doing Oh, if only he 561 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: could qualify a bit better, or if ONDI had the 562 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: pace he's qualifyings fantastic over one lap, really really going 563 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: well at the moment. The race pace for certainly the 564 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: first probably two thirds of the race. We see this 565 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: all the time with him is really really good. So 566 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 2: we're sort of at the final frontier for him. Now 567 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: he looks like he belongs up the front. Now, what 568 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: about you. But in the past, when you see him 569 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: up the front, it'll be like, well, that's nice. You know, 570 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: he looks like a bit of an interloper up there, 571 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: but it's nice to see him up there. He looks 572 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: completely legit up the front now, and it's that last 573 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 2: third of the race, whether it's time management or just 574 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 2: being able to save a little bit for that last 575 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: part of the race, and that it never feels that 576 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: he's on the attack in the last third of races. 577 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: It kind of feels to me that he's always not 578 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 2: on the defensive, but he's kind of treading water a 579 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: little bit. And we know how motor three races sort 580 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: of come to the boil towards the end. I mean, 581 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: there's usually a pack of six or eight of them 582 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: squabbling on the last couple of laps, and he always 583 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: seeds to slide down a little bit, but in terms 584 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: of the pace, the qualifying pace, and the how comfortable 585 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: he looks running at the front earlier races, I think 586 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 2: that's been the biggest thing for him this year. Because 587 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: he's always been fast. There's never been a question to 588 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 2: speed with Joel, but he now looks like he belongs 589 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: at the front of races, and you get the sense 590 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 2: that he feels like he belongs up there now. So 591 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: it's a big step to make from there to being 592 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: able to consistently challenge for podiums. But we've got nine 593 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: Grand Prix to go. I would be absolutely stunned if 594 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 2: we don't see him on two to three podiums before 595 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 2: the end of the season because the arrow's absolutely pointing 596 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: in the right direction for him, and if he can 597 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: get a little bit better at that last third of races, 598 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 2: I think we're going to see him turn these seventh 599 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: and eighth places into third and fourth places and then 600 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: you know, you know what happens in Mota III. Just 601 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: got to be in the right place at the right time, 602 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: and wouldn't discount a big result or two for Joel 603 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 2: at the end of the year, and not necessarily in 604 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: the wet, like it wasn't Philip Island last year. I 605 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: think there's huge potential there for him. So sort of frustrating, 606 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: but coming from a good place because we know how 607 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 2: well he's going. 608 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Jacob Rulestone this weekend as well. Not 609 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: the best result from him. He seemed okay, but he 610 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: didn't seem over the moon with the progression that they 611 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: made this weekend. What was your take on that? 612 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit one of those weekends that kind 613 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 2: of felt like it was on the precipice of something 614 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: more the entire time, never quite reached those heights. But 615 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: sometimes I think we judge Jacob by such a high standard. 616 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: He's still and you know, he's ten races into his 617 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: World Championship career, so you're going to have weekends like that. 618 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: I guess the expectation being Rebels home race and an 619 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: Austrian GP for KTM. So slightly disappointing in that respect, 620 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 2: but I still can't think you can't fault the way 621 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: his season has gone. I mean, he's just had a 622 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: little bit of a down one this weekend, but nothing 623 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 2: particularly to worry about. I think there will be tracks 624 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: that come up that suit him quite a lot better 625 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: than Austria did. 626 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, Red Will Ring. Even though it looks really simple, 627 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: it is not a simple track. There's so much that 628 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: just goes into mastering a lap here. So I agree. 629 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: I think we've seen such a strong Jacob in the 630 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: first half of this year. 631 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: It's just going to be time. 632 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: It's going to be learning. And then next year we 633 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: discussed in the last part he's resigned again with the 634 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: Tech three, So next year we're going to see a 635 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: much much stronger Jacob, hopefully winning some races. But before 636 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: we finish, we have to talk also about our Assie 637 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: sener aegis in Moto two, p. Fifteen for him this weekend, 638 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: and don't know if this is a track that necessarily 639 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: suited him and his writing stuck where his teammate Darren 640 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Bender was much closer to the front leading group all weekend. 641 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: It just seems it something just didn't quite click for 642 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: Center No. 643 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: Certainly in qualify and gave himself a lot to do. 644 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: He actually raced quite well, you know, all things considered 645 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: to actually be able to get back into the points 646 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: from where he was. But you know you mentioned about 647 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: this track before. It's so particular and I think there's 648 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: a level of sort of mental stress that comes with 649 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: this place in that there's so few places you can 650 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: make up big slabs of time that maybe you can 651 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: overreach a little bit if you don't have the experience. 652 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 2: We know how experienced Darren Bender is. He's been around 653 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: for ages now, plenty of races on that particular track, 654 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 2: so look good to at least move forward in the race, 655 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: get into the points. But a bit like Jacob Rolson, 656 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: another one where he'll live to fight another day. He'll 657 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: be better for the run, as they say in football pilots, 658 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: and he'll be looking a lot better for Aragon, I 659 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: would think so. 660 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: Yes, Aragon is coming up in two weeks. Moto GP. 661 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: Do you have a weekend. I'm sure there's a Formula 662 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: one or another version of motorsport if you just can't 663 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: get enough big guys. I think that pretty much sums 664 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: up our Austria recap. And that's about all the time 665 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: we've got for Moto GP Pit talk this week, But 666 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: don't forget. 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