WEBVTT - Sharri | 2 October 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:03.320 Live on Sky News. 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:06.760 This is Sharry. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.080 Good evening and welcome to the program. Caleb Bond with 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:12.240 you for the rest of the week. Well tonight, the 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.400 Greens admit they were never a Green party and instead 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.119 just a group of extreme left radicals. Might take on 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.759 that in a moment. Also tonight, Australian journalists caught up 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:25.000 in the chaos as Iran launched its attack on Israel. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:27.440 Or your Mendez will join me live from Tel Aviv. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.640 Plus what's next in this new phase of war? Terror 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:34.360 expert Greg Barton coming up shortly and a clear winner 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:37.800 in the one and only vice presidential debate. But did 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.840 it move the needle? The Australian's Adam Crichton live from 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:43.800 Washington a little later. Now, if you want to know 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:47.639 who the Greens are, just ask them. I've previously lamented 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.720 that the Greens have morphed from an environmentalist party, you know, 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.000 tree hugging and all that carry on, to a socialist, 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.880 extreme left crack pot outfit, and the federal government has 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.960 been trying to suggest the same thing. Recon This was 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.440 the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi last Monday. 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:08.160 So Adam Bant has changed the way that the Green's 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:12.240 political Party operate. They don't talk about the environment anymore. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:17.600 They talk about some extreme agenda they seek to divide. 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:22.319 A few days later, on Thursday, Environment Minister Tanya Plibosek 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.520 told our Laura Jay is much the same thing. 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.360 I don't think the Green's political Party are the party 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.760 of Bob Brown anymore. The idea that Max Chandler may 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:37.200 would spend more time defending John Setka and the bikey 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.080 infiltration of the CFMU than he spends defending the environment, 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.200 I think tells you all you need to know about 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.120 the modern Greens. I just don't think this is a 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:48.120 party of environmentalists anymore. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:52.400 She then repeated the same lines that afternoon on two GB. 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.760 In recent years, what you've seen is it's not the 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.040 party of Bob Brown anymore. It's not a party of 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:04.040 environmentalists anymore. It's actually a party of I think you 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:09.600 described it as anarchists. I don't get some of the 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.880 positions they're taking really are completely contrary to things that 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:15.959 they've stood up for in the past and argued for. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.800 Clearly, this is a message that the government is trying 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.440 to drive that the Greens have moved away from environmentalism 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.320 into wacky territory because they're worried, particularly in the city 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.840 MPs like Albanesi and Plibasic, that they are under threat 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.200 from the Greens. And I'm sure a lot of people 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.320 do look at the Greens and see the same and go, well, 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:40.040 they're a greenee party and worried about climate change. That 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.959 sounds good enough for me. But it seems I was wrong. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:48.520 They haven't changed. They were never just an environmentalist party now. 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:51.440 They were formed from an amalgamation of green groups from 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.720 across the country and Bob Brown, best known for farting 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:59.040 against dams and forestry in Tasmania, essentially built the party 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.919 that we know today. And he told the Sydney Morning 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.440 Herald today that the Greens haven't changed at all. It's 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.480 actually labor that has somehow lurched to the right. He said, 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.440 quote the electric accept that the Greens are the best 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:16.040 party for the environment, but what I'm seeing now is 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.959 the electorate seeing more and more that the same applies 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:24.320 for social justice. It's an evolution of understanding. The Greens 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:28.639 haven't changed or abandoned their aims, They've just evolved. Brown 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:32.040 went on, Anthony Albanzi is turning out to be the 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.640 least environmentally minded labor prime minister in a long time. 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.960 It's a bit tragic that even Tanya Plibersek, who hasn't 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:43.000 turned out to be a strong environment minister, is having 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.680 the ground cut from underneath her repeatedly by the Prime Minister. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:50.440 He even said Albanzi was quote sounding like a right 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.640 wing National Party apparachik. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.600 When he talked about the Greens. 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.960 The Greens of today are, according to Bob Brown, still 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:03.080 the Greens of his day, the party of Max Chandler Matha, 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.960 who appeared at a rally in support of the cfmy 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.960 U in August after the Union was accused of being 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:12.600 overrun by bikies and other criminal thugs, where people waved 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.240 signs showing the Prime Minister with a Hitler mustache calling 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:20.559 him alber Nazi, the party of Marine Feruki, who pulled 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.080 off this pathetic stunt in the Senate just a month 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.839 after the October seven terrorist attacks on Israel. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:29.479 You are not condemning Israel. You refuse to call for 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.800 an immediate cease fire. Well, we are not going to 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.000 sit here and watch you bat yourselves on the back 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.640 for doing nothing. Welworths are not going to stop war crimes. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.360 Today we bring the people's protest into Parliament. 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.400 Free Free Palestine. 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:50.400 Thank you Senator Faruki, Minister Farrell. 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:51.840 That was a statement, So. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.279 Order order Senator Hanson. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.680 Later that month she stood next to a sign that 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.000 said keep the world clean and showed the Israeli flag 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.080 being thrown in a bin. The Party of Jenny Leong 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:12.880 who invoked Nazi era anti Semitic propaganda. Their tentacles reach 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:14.880 in to the areas. 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.640 That try influence power, and. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.239 I think that we need to call that out. 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:18.840 And expose it. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.000 The party that is so shortsighted that it thinks freezing 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.719 rents will somehow magically help the housing crisis instead of 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:29.880 encouraging fewer people to invest in the housing market, whether 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.920 that be putting existing houses up for rent or building 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.120 new ones for people to rent in the future. In fact, 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.560 if you go to their website, they name six big 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:41.799 policy platforms. The first two are freeze rents and interest 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:45.719 rates and stop supermarket price gouging. Then we get to 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:50.080 an environmental policy, stop labour's coal and gas. Then end 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.680 the invasion of Gaza dental and mental health into medicare, 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:57.880 and free union tafe hover over the hour plan tab 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.360 on their website and the first thing, listen, it isn't 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:03.760 about the environment, it's truth and Treaty where they say 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:08.400 that sovereignty has never been seeded. All of this far left, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:13.359 economically illiterate policies have nothing to do with the environment. 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:18.000 And Bob Brown, the renowned environmentalist, says this is still 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.000 the party he led. The Greens are a stalking horse 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:26.600 for radical left wing socialist ideology cloaked in environmentalism, and 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.640 if we take mister Brown at his word, that was 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.560 the plan all along. A lot of people still think 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.000 of the Greens as a green party, but they're not. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.159 They don't want to be, and they never intended to be. 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:43.120 They're not going to correct course back to an environmental party. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.360 This is all part of the design and that might 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.040 come as a bit of a surprise to a lot 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.320 of people who got involved with the Greens two or 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.159 three decades ago to fight for the environment. They should 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:58.320 just be honest, rename themselves to the socialist party, watermelons 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.159 green on the outside and read on the inside. To 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.120 keep calling themselves the Greens, I think is fraudulent. And 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.440 if we end up with a hung parliament next year. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.200 They won't just have labor over the barrel on the environment. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.360 It'll be the most extreme socialist stuff you can imagine. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.680 They haven't changed, They've just ridden on the coattails of 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.560 environmentalism long enough and built up enough support to finally 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.400 drive the radical agenda they want, and Bob Brown has 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:27.040 admitted it. 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:32.080 Now. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.480 The New South Wales Police are going to the Supreme 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:38.000 Court to stop pro Palestinian rallies on October the sixth 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.440 and seventh. Monday will be the first anniversary of the 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:45.280 October seven terror attacks on Israel, the biggest single slaughter 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.320 of Jews since the Holocaust. Of course, now there will 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.720 be a protest on Sunday the sixth and a vigil 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:53.680 on Monday the seventh. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:54.240 Is what we are told. 0:07:54.480 --> 0:07:58.480 So the protest organizers followed the correct procedures in advising 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.920 the police of their intention to test, but the police believe, 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:05.440 given the dates in question, that they cannot be conducted 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:09.119 safely and want to stop them. Both the Human Rights 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.440 Law Center and Amnesty International have today called for the 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.480 police to withdraw their application to the court, claiming it 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:19.800 would inhibit the right to protest. The Palestine Action Group 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.880 is organizing the events, and their spokesman Josh Lees, said 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.760 they would go ahead regardless of what happens. He said, quote, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.200 if we need to, we will fight this in court, 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.200 and we are confident actually that we would win this 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:35.880 in court. Even if we were to lose that case, 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:40.600 we would go ahead with our protest, no regard for 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.719 the law and their vigil on October seven, the day 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.839 that one one hundred and thirty nine people were killed 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:50.520 by Hamas terrorists, is not for those victims. It's for 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:54.720 people who've been killed in Gaza since Lee said, it's 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:58.360 outrageous that the authorities would attempt to ban people's right 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.600 degree for their loved ones and family members who've been 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:05.559 killed forty two thousand of them in Gaza, nearly two 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:11.160 thousand in Lebanon. Now, No, what is outrageous is that 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.880 you would take the day of a terror attack that 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:18.080 emanated from Gaza and then use that to protest against 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.880 the war that it created. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.400 This shouldn't even be a question. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.760 It shouldn't be a matter of whether you consider yourself 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:29.080 pro Palestine or pro Israel. It shouldn't matter whether you 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.680 oppose the war. To hold a protest on the day 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:35.679 before the anniversary of the terror attack, and a vigil 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.439 on the anniversary of the terror attack, but not a 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.760 vigil for the Jews in Israelis who were killed on 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:45.400 that day is repugnant and inflammatory. You have the right 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.200 to protest, and you should always have the right to protest. 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.240 You're allowed to protest against the war, and they've been 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.760 doing so for a year. I will defend your right 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.520 to protest if you do it within the bounds of decency. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:01.440 You don't disrupt other people's lives, no matter how much 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.600 I might disagree with you. That's just the way things 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.840 ought to be. But holding rallies on October six and 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.480 seven is not protesting. It's a slap in the face 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:14.839 to the innocent people who were slaughtered on October seven 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.560 and their families. It is the glorification of terrorism, pure 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:23.800 and simple. The organizers knew exactly what they were doing 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.960 when they planned this. It's divisive, it's inflammatory, and it 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.240 looks for all the world like they are supporting what 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:36.000 happened on October seven. The support and glorification of Islamis 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:41.120 terrorism cannot be allowed in any way. It is disgusting, 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.880 it is dangerous. It has the potential to incite violence. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.880 You can't claim to be protesting against the loss of 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.360 civilian lives in Gaza when you won't even let Jews 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:56.560 and Israelis observe the anniversary of the slaughter of the 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:01.840 innocent friends and family in peace. Dare you hijack such 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:05.480 a horrible day? You can protest any other days of 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:09.880 the year. Why choose October the sixth and seventh unless 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.120 you support what happened. 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:12.800 Nearly a year ago. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:17.040 Anyone who rocks up to these rallies next week, regardless 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.160 of the decision of the Supreme Court, should hang their 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:27.680 head in shame. Joining me now is former Labor minister 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:31.160 Graham Richardson and Scarne New's contributor Gary Hardgrave. 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.000 Gents welcome, rich O. 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.880 What do you make of a ground coming out today 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.400 basically saying the Greens are still the Greens that I 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.160 led all those years back then? 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:46.839 I think I think that's rather pathetic. I had a 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.760 lot to there with Bob Brown way back when, and 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:54.000 there were Greens involved, but they've been gradually pushed out 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.640 of the party. It's now the hard left party of Australia. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.480 It's got very little to do with saving trees and 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.760 everything to do with an agenda that most Australians would 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.199 find to use the word you just use repugnant. 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:09.920 But shouldn't we take him at his word? 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:13.320 Gary, I mean, he's essentially admitting here that they never 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.240 were just a Green party. They're an extremelyft party. They 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.079 now have enough support to do it without particularly worrying 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.079 about getting the environmentalists offside. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.240 Look, Caleb and rich are great to be with you both. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.120 Let me say that the Greens are exactly what they 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.240 were always set out to be, and that is internationalists. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.920 They don't actually care about Australia. They're trying to take 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:39.439 on Western civilization. Kill at Stone dead. They've used the environment, 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.960 which rich O and I we were all on a 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:45.480 unity ticket. We care about the environment, but we actually 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:48.240 care about our way alive, and we care about our freedom. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.360 We care about the civilization has delivered us thus far. 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.240 We're going to have a debate about things. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.920 But these people don't want anybody to have anything to 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:57.120 say except them. 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:59.719 And it is an internationalist. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.760 It is against countries like ours, it's against our civilization. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:05.960 These people are the stalking horses. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:09.000 They are, as rich I said, the extreme left of 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:12.880 Australia and anything extreme is bad and we've just got 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:17.120 a much more egalitarian approach to the world than these people, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:21.200 and everything you've said, Caleb is spot on. 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.079 I'm really pleased to be with you tonight, well up in. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:26.679 Your state of Queensland, Garry. 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.840 Of course, we saw today that Stephen Marles, the Labor Premier, 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.800 says he would actually do a deal with the Greens 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.080 if it to secured him government again. And you know 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.160 we always hear leaders say, oh, we won't do any 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.360 deals with anyone, but you can bet your bottom dollar 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:41.680 that if Anthony Albanizi is steering down the barrel of 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.960 forming government or not on the Greens of what stands 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.319 in the way, he will do it and that will 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.440 be dangerous for all of us. Now, going back to 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:52.199 what I was talking about before, with these pro Palestine protests, 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:56.360 there's a woman today has been charged after allegedly waiving 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.520 a his Bala flag at last week n's protest in 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.120 sid The police said that the nineteen year old handed 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.360 herself in because they put out photographs of are imploring 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.520 her to come in and do so. And I mentioned 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:12.080 before these idiots who are planning to protest on October 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.920 the sixth and seventh in Sydney, even if the Supreme 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:19.720 Court tells them not to, Richo, how could anyone possibly 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:24.560 rock up to a quote unquote pro Palestinian protest on 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.040 the sixth or seventh of October without being there to 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.920 essentially say that they support the slaughter of Jews that 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:33.680 occurred on October the seventh. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:38.120 But they very actively do support that slaughter. That's what's 0:14:38.560 --> 0:14:43.080 so terrifying to me about all of this. These people 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:49.840 have no problem sitting back and actually agreeing with the death, 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:53.720 the gruesome death of hundreds of people. I mean, I'll 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.720 find that just bizarre. How can you do that? No 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.520 civilized person can possibly do that. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.760 As I said before, Gary, one of their organizers, said, 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:06.280 if we need to, we will fight this in court, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.800 and we are confident actually that we would win in court. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.480 Even if we lose that case, we are going to 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.160 go ahead with our protests. Now, assuming that the Supreme 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.760 Court says that this cannot go ahead, the coppers should 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.840 be down there on the weekend rounding up every single 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.040 one of these people and putting them in a cell. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.960 And if there is anyone there who is. 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.960 Seeming to be in support of October seventh, who is 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:32.720 here on a visa. As far as I'm concerned, they 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:34.040 should be sent packing. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:36.240 Yeah. 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.560 Look, and even if they've got permanent residency, you can 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:41.880 make a temporary and you can deal with those less 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.400 substantial visas pretty fast. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:43.960 They should go. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:45.920 Look, I think people have come to this country to 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.600 cause this trouble right now, And Cayleb, I think some 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.560 of the organizers are heavily influenced by foreign agents who 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.760 are now living amongst us. It's pretty simple. They are 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.680 attacking Western society. These people don't care about how laws. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.680 They are a law under them, so they'll do everything 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.800 they can. And look, I defend people's rights to free speech, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.560 but you've got to have responsibility for it. And the 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.600 taste associated with this is really. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:11.120 Wrong, Calyb. 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.080 This is not a pro Palestine thing, This is not 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.680 a pro Gaza thing, This is not a pro Muslim thing. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:21.600 These are terrorists and supporters of terroris who are taking 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:22.200 us on. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:25.160 We've got to take them on. And this is many criticism. 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.720 The Prime Minister is kind of all over the place, 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:29.880 you know, and if you don't know where you're going anywhere, 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.040 it will take you there. That was what George Harrison's 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.160 saying years ago, and I think that's kind of where 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.680 we're at. We are leaderlests on this stuff. We need 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.040 to sharpen our result to stand up to this nonce. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:45.040 Here here now, the NDAs Minister Bill Shorten has put 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:49.200 out this long list of unproven therapies and alternative treatments 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.760 that are now going to be officially banned from the 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:55.480 National Disability Insurance Scheme. We knew this was coming. But 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.480 amongst the things that you won't be able to claim 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:01.480 sex work, cuddle therapy, whatever the hell that is sounds 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:06.440 quite nice, crystal and tarot card reading. You won't be 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.000 able to get vapes anymore, though you know, you could 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.560 just go down to the local tobacconist and by an 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.480 illegal one, because that's what Albo wants you to do. 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.439 Sidekicks have been taken off the list. You won't be 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.919 able to go on holidays, you won't be able to 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.720 gamble your money, you won't be able to get tattoos. 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:25.320 I mean, you know, rich Oh, I'm glad that these 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.840 things have been struck off the list. But the extraordinary 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.399 thing is that they were a there in the first place, 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.000 and be that they were allowed to stay there for 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:33.840 so damn long. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.320 Yeah, it's pretty I look at things like that and 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.000 you wonder, how could it have ever developed into that? 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:46.119 I don't understand in this country in particular, this is 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.240 just so foreign and so alien to our way of life? 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:50.560 Why would will let it go by? 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.440 And Gary, of course, when you look at the unemployment 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.760 statistics at the moment, you look at all the jobs 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.879 that have been created in the last quarter or so, 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.800 most of those jobs have been created in either aged 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:08.040 care or the NDIS. So employment's not as good in 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.159 this country as we think it is. We're essentially just 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:13.040 propping it up through this massive government scheme that is 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.280 totally out of control. This is a good start, but 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.240 my god, there's a lot more work to do on 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:18.880 the NDIS. 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:23.000 Gary, Well, look, let me say I chair us an 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:26.800 advisory group for an NDIS provider, so I'll put that 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.879 up front. And what I know is forty two billion 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.240 dollars of taxpayers funds used to be distributed to state governments. 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.159 It's now in the hands of individuals to purchase things 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:39.000 that are prescribed as suitable for them and their particular 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:42.800 disability and their circumstance. Right, So that's the theory behind it. 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:45.320 But look in practice, some of these providers have done 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.960 some pretty ordinary things and I think it's great. I 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:52.480 think any legitimate NDIS provider would welcome what Bill Shorten 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:53.160 has done here. 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:54.919 And it had to be sharpened up, it had to 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:55.640 be tidied up. 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.200 This is meant to make a difference for individuals, and 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:01.600 the fact that some are exploiting it, well, look that's 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:02.159 what happens. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.200 But government's got to crack down. And good on Bill 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:05.120 Shorten for doing. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.880 It, I say, indeed, I mean, it's just so out 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:11.880 of control it's not even funny. The nrama came out 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.920 today or the insurance chief came out today and said 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:19.440 that batteries in electric vehicles should be tested as part 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:23.399 of road worthiness tests. She says that it'll help quell 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:27.159 driver fears that their cars you won't suddenly combust and 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.600 hopefully make the rest of us safer, which she thinks 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.560 will ultimately lead to a higher uptake of evs. I'm 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.000 not so sure about that, but Julie Batch says that 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.200 it should just be standard if your car is being 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:42.159 assessed for road worthiness. I think she's right in so 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.840 far as saying that Richo. We know that these lithium 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.480 ion batteries can be extremely dangerous. Every second day we 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.639 sort of seem to see a fire caused by them, 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:53.760 whether it be a car or an electric bike, or. 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:55.439 A vapor or something or another. 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:59.200 I'm surprised they're not assessing this stuff already. 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.840 I think we've had a concern about this for some time, 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.720 but for some reason, we've not been very good at 0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:12.800 putting legislation in place to protect ourselves. And this is 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:16.159 one thing you need to be getting protection from. You 0:20:16.200 --> 0:20:20.160 know these things are dangerous, that the lithium batteries are 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:24.119 not stable, and there's been too many examples. It's not 0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:27.320 as if there's one or two. There's examples right across 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.520 the board of these things blowing up. Well, I don't 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:31.960 want them blow up anywhere in near me. 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:36.960 I don't blame you, nor do the Chinese Gary, which 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.320 is a lot of these cars are coming out of China. 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:42.919 Now there are hotels and apartment buildings and whatever in 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.240 China Gary that are now banning evs from being put 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.600 in their underground car parks because they were a dole 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:49.960 joints going to be set on far. 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.080 Yeah, I think there's enough lemons and bombs on the 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:55.680 road already. We don't need a few more. 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.720 But look, the other thing about it, kayleb, is that 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.120 some of these cars are so done heavy. I don't 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.080 know whether some of the structures that we're expecting them 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.000 to go into iron I mean, could you imagine some 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.480 of these car parks that are rated for a standard 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:11.600 internal combustion engine car and then you've got something going 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.320 to be two and three times here there and hundreds 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:16.200 of them in a car park. I'm just saying to 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:19.680 you there's a lot of consequences to this. These batteries 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:23.040 in these cars bloody heavy, and I don't know whether 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:24.600 some of the structures are actually built for it. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:24.720 Now. 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.000 Not a structural engineer, but I just simply say there's 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:29.160