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Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders the show that is
Speaker 2: to net zero madness and woke identity politics on steroids,
Speaker 2: what the Coalition was not to net zero madness and
Speaker 2: work identity politics on steroids, and what the bird life
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Speaker 6: Let's say together, I've demonized the Jewish community for my
Speaker 6: own political gain. And that is a quick word of
Speaker 6: advice for the for the Liberal Party. He's going to
Speaker 6: mix them up with the Libor Party.
Speaker 9: If you want to change the world, you have to
Speaker 9: have the courage to be an outsider. In other words,
Speaker 9: you have to take certain risks and do things a
Speaker 9: little bit differently. Otherwise, if that weren't the case, everybody
Speaker 9: would be successful. It helps when you know that borders
Speaker 9: are not racist, speech is not violence, America is good,
Speaker 9: Terrorists are bad, men can never become women, police are
Speaker 9: not criminals, and criminals are not victims.
Speaker 2: It's so easy when you know what you stand for.
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Speaker 6: Paddington.
Speaker 5: You know what I hate to say.
Speaker 6: I told you so, We told you so. But this
Speaker 6: is what we've been talking about on this.
Speaker 1: Prot nine months, for.
Speaker 6: Nine months, particularly though this year twenty twenty five we
Speaker 6: were just remarked week in week out about how the
Speaker 6: coalition had stored none of that voice momentum had carried through.
Speaker 6: That's lost their way. And once that election was called,
Speaker 6: I was expecting just a barrage of activity and policy
Speaker 6: and differentiation from labor. We never got it on key issues,
Speaker 6: energy policy, population policy, all the race craziness that was
Speaker 6: inflicted on this country and continues to be inflicted despite
Speaker 6: the people having their say eighteen months ago. And if
Speaker 6: you stand for nothing, this is what happens. Conservatives only
Speaker 6: win from a position of strength and clear policy differentiation.
Speaker 6: We didn't have it. They refuse to walk away from
Speaker 6: that zero. They refused to say we're going to slash
Speaker 6: immigration after we've had record numbers come through. We are
Speaker 6: in a cost of living crisis, we've had our living
Speaker 6: standards plummet. And a government has won in a landslide, exactly.
Speaker 2: And if you've just tuned in or you only watch
Speaker 2: outside ers, quite sensibly, yes, yes, the Labour Party has
Speaker 2: been returned in a landslide, apparently, and congratulations to Anthony
Speaker 2: Alberanezi for running that campaign. Peter Dutton has lost his
Speaker 2: own seat and obviously the Liberals have lost the election badly.
Speaker 2: Here's just before we go to more commentary. Here's Albanesi
Speaker 2: winning his moment of his winning speech.
Speaker 10: My fellow Australians, serving as your Prime Minister is the
Speaker 10: greatest honor of my life. And it is with a
Speaker 10: deep sense of humility and a profound sense of responsibility
Speaker 10: that the first thing that I do tonight is to
Speaker 10: say thank you to the people of Australia for the
Speaker 10: chance to continue to serve the best nation on earth.
Speaker 2: That was Alban, Anthony Alban Prime Minister for the next
Speaker 2: three years, and he's thinking much longer than that. And
Speaker 2: here's Peter Dutton, you know, acknowledging he was beaten.
Speaker 11: We've been defined by our opponents in this election, which
Speaker 11: is not the true story of who we are. But
Speaker 11: we'll rebuild from here. We'll do because we know our values,
Speaker 11: we know our beliefs, and we will always stick to them.
Speaker 11: I want to say thank you to the Australian people
Speaker 11: for the faith they've placed in me and thank them
Speaker 11: for the great honor of having been the Member for
Speaker 11: Dixon and the leader of Opposition.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thank you, goodbye. Peter Dutton.
Speaker 7: Well, James, what did you think of that? I mean,
Speaker 7: look that Peter Dutton speech there. He did give a
Speaker 7: very gracious defeat speech, concession speech. However, that was once
Speaker 7: again an example of something that we saw through this
Speaker 7: entire campaign, and that is if you're explaining your losing.
Speaker 7: And Peter Dutton ran and we were very critical of
Speaker 7: him on this show for weeks and weeks and months
Speaker 7: and months and months about this campaign that he ran
Speaker 7: that was simultaneously o fish and flat footed and unable
Speaker 7: to respond to all of the lies that labor let
Speaker 7: lie after lie after lie after lie, you know, from
Speaker 7: the six hundred billion dollars to the take away your
Speaker 7: medicare to everything else in between. No way to respond
Speaker 7: to that. And yet despite being completely offish and flat
Speaker 7: footed in campaign mode when they were talking about themselves,
Speaker 7: they also managed to do Olympic level backflips at every
Speaker 7: stage of the campaign. And I'm talking about they started
Speaker 7: out with the backflip on the work from home policy,
Speaker 7: which was an ill advised thing to throw out there
Speaker 7: without having done any sort of thought about it too.
Speaker 7: You know, even seventy two hours before the polls opened
Speaker 7: up on election day, Peter Dutt was out there saying, oh,
Speaker 7: you know, look, may I've talked about changing the school curriculum,
Speaker 7: which it totally woke. But no, no, no, we have
Speaker 7: no changes plan to the school curriculum. This was an
Speaker 7: exact example of what happens when a party, and we
Speaker 7: have spoken about this for years. The problem with the
Speaker 7: Liberal Party has of losing its way and it has
Speaker 7: become this is what happens when you try to be
Speaker 7: all things to all people. You forget your core constituency,
Speaker 7: You forget get your core values. They've forgotten their values.
Speaker 7: They need to go back and they deserve time in
Speaker 7: the wilderness. They need to go back. Read their Robert
Speaker 7: Menzie speeches, go back, figure out who they are that
Speaker 7: they're for aspiracial Australia, because what's coming down the Piking
Speaker 7: Road and read it, Anthony ALBINIZI is now in a
Speaker 7: position to change permanently or for a long time, the
Speaker 7: political settlement in this country, meaning that everybody becomes dependent
Speaker 7: on the government in one way or another. Once that
Speaker 7: gets set in concrete, it is very hard to undo.
Speaker 7: Until we hit a crisis.
Speaker 6: We are going to get the Victoriification of Australia. They're
Speaker 6: going to say what's happened in Victoria nationally and the
Speaker 6: Coalition bears a great deal of the blame because, as
Speaker 6: James just explained, they have tried to be all things
Speaker 6: to all people that haven't been principled in actually providing
Speaker 6: the Australian people with a choice at a clear choice.
Speaker 6: And this is what's going to happen.
Speaker 5: It really is.
Speaker 6: Bewildering the strategy that they employed. I struggle to understand.
Speaker 6: I think maybe they thought we need to appeal to
Speaker 6: those inner city electorates to try to win back those
Speaker 6: till seats, and in their efforts to do that, they
Speaker 6: not only lost their principles, but also lost sight of
Speaker 6: what is going to be their new base, which isn't
Speaker 6: those affluent inner city seats. That's never going to be
Speaker 6: the liberal base going forward. This is a thing that's
Speaker 6: bigger than Australia. This is a trend of phenomenon that
Speaker 6: is evident in the UK. It's evident in the US.
Speaker 6: The more affluent are leaning increasingly left and the working class,
Speaker 6: middle class, aspirational classes are leaning right.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 6: You either embrace that and utilize it, or you fight
Speaker 6: against it, which the coalition in Australia should to be
Speaker 6: doing and to their detriment, as we've just seen. I mean,
Speaker 6: what did they give the electorate, What reason do they
Speaker 6: give the electra to throw out a first term government?
Speaker 7: Well, look, I mean, you know, we will talk about
Speaker 7: the various aspirants to lead this shell of a coalition
Speaker 7: here that we have, but I really do think that
Speaker 7: one of the moments when I think I knew that
Speaker 7: this whole thing was over for them was you know,
Speaker 7: eight ten, twelve weeks ago, and right here an hour
Speaker 7: before we went to air Angus Taylor came on too
Speaker 7: Andrew Clenell's program and said, oh, well, you know medicare
Speaker 7: is they've just offered eight point five billion dollars labor
Speaker 7: for Medicare, so we'll just match that and go up
Speaker 7: to nine. And that's when and that was when, you know,
Speaker 7: the spendathon was on. That's when they just decided they
Speaker 7: weren't going to do anything about fiscal discipline. And the
Speaker 7: insane thing about this is we're in a moment here
Speaker 7: when you've got all these crisises of you know, the economy, inflation,
Speaker 7: deficit defense, and yet they were not able to successfully
Speaker 7: differentiate themselves. And you know, you have to give people
Speaker 7: a difference, and you have to let people know that
Speaker 7: you believe in what you believe. All the back flips
Speaker 7: did was make the coalition, made the Liberals in particular
Speaker 7: look really shifty because it made it say, oh, well,
Speaker 7: you don't like these policies, We've got others. And it
Speaker 7: also made them look and this strategy what they do
Speaker 7: the big after action review on this. They need to
Speaker 7: have a huge look at this policy of we are
Speaker 7: going to hold back all our policies till the very end,
Speaker 7: and we're not going to tell you what they are. Again,
Speaker 7: it makes you look shifty. And remember what happened with defense.
Speaker 7: Now defense, you know we have had Chinese vessels circumnavigating
Speaker 7: the country doing live fire exercises. Defense is something that
Speaker 7: Peter Dutton should have had a huge advantage of on
Speaker 7: And what did they do. They held the defense policy
Speaker 7: back to Anzac Day week, the week before the election.
Speaker 7: And you know what what happened, Well, other events conspired
Speaker 7: to knock it off the front page. Pope Francis died
Speaker 7: and nobody talked about it and there was no advantage
Speaker 7: for the coalition to that.
Speaker 2: And then we had we had the massive blackouts in Spain, Portugal,
Speaker 2: in France and net zero as a disaster. I'll just
Speaker 2: pick up there. I knew James the moment. So a
Speaker 2: year ago I was saying that Dutton would win in
Speaker 2: a landslide and he should have done and he could
Speaker 2: have done. And the reality is all you had to
Speaker 2: do was take that sixty one percent of the Australian
Speaker 2: population who voted no to the Voice, just nurture them,
Speaker 2: look after them and carry them through to the election.
Speaker 2: By tackling all those cultural war issues, whether it's transgenderism,
Speaker 2: whether it's climate, whether it's immigration, those issues were all
Speaker 2: there to be had there. Let's not forget sixty five
Speaker 2: percent of Australia did not vote for the Albanese government.
Speaker 2: Our preferential system works the way it works, and that's
Speaker 2: what we're stuck with. But that majority was still there,
Speaker 2: That conservative traditional values of Australia majority is still there,
Speaker 2: is still sitting there waiting to be picked up. And
Speaker 2: the reality is the people of Australia, the conservative you know,
Speaker 2: sixty percent of Australia should be so angry with the
Speaker 2: cold issue, so angry with Peter Dutton, so angry with
Speaker 2: those backroom boff in the sitting round, with their focus
Speaker 2: groups and their pie charts and their their whiteboards. They
Speaker 2: have completely betrayed us. You've completely betrayed us a year ago.
Speaker 2: You had this election in the bag. From that point on,
Speaker 2: and we have been saying it week in, week out
Speaker 2: on this show. We have advised you, We've given you advice.
Speaker 2: Our advice has been correct all along. We could spot
Speaker 2: it where you were going wrong. We advised you, and
Speaker 2: so did many other people. But you chose not to listen.
Speaker 2: You thought you knew better, and you've lost, and you've
Speaker 2: been defeated soundly. Now, James just mentioned the moment he
Speaker 2: knew that it was all over. The moment I knew
Speaker 2: it was all over was when Peter Dutton, in the
Speaker 2: greatest act of betrayal of this country that I've seen
Speaker 2: since Turnbull and Morrison, refused to pull out of Paris.
Speaker 2: When Donald Trump was elected. Donald Trump was elected. From
Speaker 2: that moment, America, the greatest economic powerhouse in the world,
Speaker 2: had said no to net zero. It was behove and
Speaker 2: beholden to Australia to say we have got to pull
Speaker 2: back from this net zero because we're traying the working
Speaker 2: people of this country. That was the moment you lost
Speaker 2: it deservedly in my opinion, Rita Well, I think.
Speaker 6: You're right therein that they deserve to lose. If they won,
Speaker 6: it would have been a little bit of a travesty.
Speaker 6: They would have won because they because of their opposition,
Speaker 6: not because of the policies that were taking to the electorate,
Speaker 6: and for the principal stand that were taking.
Speaker 5: Energy was enormous.
Speaker 6: Energy is where that can differentiate so clearly, and it
Speaker 6: touches everything. When you've got a cost of living crisis,
Speaker 6: energy is an enormous part of that. When you've got
Speaker 6: an inflation problem, energy is enormous part of that. So
Speaker 6: it affects every household, every business, the manufacturing sector, jobs.
Speaker 6: And you could have taken this, made it a referendum
Speaker 6: about labor. Is about green energy emission cuts, Where about cheap,
Speaker 6: reliable energy, Where about the cheapest form of energy that
Speaker 6: you can get? And that is it. Yeah, they had
Speaker 6: the nuclear policy that were too scared to talk about it,
Speaker 6: and that didn't kick into the twenty third. People want
Speaker 6: to know what's going to happen in a month's time,
Speaker 6: not in the twenty thirties, So that is a huge failing.
Speaker 6: It was a huge opportunity. Population was another one. Again,
Speaker 6: something everybody cares about. Impacts so many areas of life,
Speaker 6: whether you're talking about housing crisis, waiting, lists of hospitals,
Speaker 6: traffic issues, cultural issues, all of this. You could have
Speaker 6: again said, labor have brought in record numbers in the
Speaker 6: last few years, We're going to slash immigration fifty percent,
Speaker 6: maybe eighty percent, have a clear policy and say until
Speaker 6: we get the housing crisis sorted, We're not going to
Speaker 6: be bringing in a.
Speaker 7: Single person James, and stop letting groups like Universities Australia
Speaker 7: and the property developers lobbes define what our population should be.
Speaker 7: The Overton window, that's the term that we use in
Speaker 7: politics to describe, you know, the areas where it's allowed
Speaker 7: to be talked about, what we're allowed to talk about.
Speaker 7: That has shifted so far. On immigration, now you have
Speaker 7: most people in most poles saying they want less or
Speaker 7: substantially less immigration. Huge door for the colst to walk through.
Speaker 7: They kind of stuck their foot through for a bit,
Speaker 7: but then they again the great problem with everything. But
Speaker 7: there's the problem you read and wrote. You know, there's
Speaker 7: a more fundamental thing than this. You know, we could
Speaker 7: talk about all the different policies that they didn't you know,
Speaker 7: land or come together with. You know, they just simply
Speaker 7: didn't do the homework on all of these policies. They
Speaker 7: did not do the work. And I was speaking to
Speaker 7: liberal insiders weeks and months ago who said, we're really
Speaker 7: in a lot of trouble because we didn't do the work.
Speaker 7: They didn't do the stuff to prepare themselves for the
Speaker 7: onslaught of labor lies that came through with every single policy,
Speaker 7: they had no way to counter it. They were so
Speaker 7: flat footed. Every time, you know, six hundred billion dollars,
Speaker 7: they just laughed and kept lying. This is a time
Speaker 7: when you're going up against a guy who has promised
Speaker 7: to reduce your powerbills by two hundreds twenty five dollars,
Speaker 7: they've gone up by twelve hundred. How do you not
Speaker 7: win against that? It is an act of stupendous political incompetence.
Speaker 6: And not doing the work, I think is at the
Speaker 6: heart of this, because you can't just in the last
Speaker 6: four weeks, even the last couple of months, come up
Speaker 6: with these policy positions that you haven't done the work on.
Speaker 6: And they've spent a lot of time today and last
Speaker 6: night throwing muther Donald Trump. But you know what Trump did.
Speaker 6: He worked those policies for four years. So he took
Speaker 6: the American electorate from being majority opposed to mass deportations
Speaker 6: deporting every illegal immigrant to now where it is a
Speaker 6: wildly popular policy, not just deporting every criminal, but every
Speaker 6: illegal immigrant to the country. That didn't happen overnight. That
Speaker 6: happened because the particularly Donald Trump put the work in
Speaker 6: for years prosecuting that case, saying why this is a
Speaker 6: good policy, And we saw the Liberals finally do that
Speaker 6: with the Voice. It took them ten months to come
Speaker 6: your position with the Voice. They didn't have ten months
Speaker 6: to mess around this time around with the election, and
Speaker 6: maybe that was three.
Speaker 2: Years to do that.
Speaker 6: There's another point with the Voice, we saw them go
Speaker 6: against the media y political class and then but this
Speaker 6: time they were listening to them.
Speaker 5: And my great fury is.
Speaker 6: All the wrong lessons out of this loss. Instead of
Speaker 6: actually saying we need to stand for something, we need
Speaker 6: to be strong, we need to be actually a proper
Speaker 6: center right alternative, they're going to veer out further left.
Speaker 7: All the pot and that leads to me.
Speaker 2: I'll be talking about it later, but I have to
Speaker 2: ask the question. I'll be asking it at ten o'clock.
Speaker 2: Is the Liberal Party fit for purpose? Is the broad
Speaker 2: Church fit for purpose? I'll tell you about that at
Speaker 2: ten o'clock. But let's reata's write James that all the
Speaker 2: wrong lessons are already being taken out of this you know,
Speaker 2: all that stuff, And the reality is they did not
Speaker 2: fight to tear down this government, this labor government has
Speaker 2: reached to it saying it is absolutely atrocious. They're going
Speaker 2: to be taxing our unrealized super games. Now we're going
Speaker 2: to have more of this renewables madness. This country is
Speaker 2: going to go down the gurglar economically with Jimbo's ridiculous thing.
Speaker 2: And all those people in Australia who have been let
Speaker 2: down by this Liberal Party so badly let down. The Nationals,
Speaker 2: by the way, all held their seats, so there's a
Speaker 2: lesson there, but so badly let down because they the
Speaker 2: politicians all keep their seats and.
Speaker 1: They all get their.
Speaker 2: Salaries forever and all of that stuff. But there are
Speaker 2: hard working people in Australia that you, the Liberal Party,
Speaker 2: have really really badly let down. I'm now questioning whether
Speaker 2: you fit the purpose.
Speaker 7: Well, you know, and it's funny that you say that,
Speaker 7: because I've actually written in Today's Sunday telegraphing in the
Speaker 7: Sunday News Corps tabloids that the Liberal Party is in
Speaker 7: a real existential crisis. This is an existential crisis for
Speaker 7: the Liberal Party. They do not know what they stand for,
Speaker 7: they do not know who they represent, and they need
Speaker 7: to work that out. But really, you said something before,
Speaker 7: and I just wanted to pick up on this and
Speaker 7: you talked about the media, and this was another part
Speaker 7: of this here the liberals, Peter Dutton particularly seemed terrified
Speaker 7: of the media, absolutely terrified. And this is something that
Speaker 7: goes way way back to before when he was a
Speaker 7: minister in coalition governments. You know, Peter Dutton spent the
Speaker 7: last three years mostly doing softball interviews. He mostly did
Speaker 7: things like Ray Hadley on two GB where he's going
Speaker 7: to get a good run and instead of doing things
Speaker 7: he was inviting here. But you know, this is there's thing.
Speaker 7: So you know, and you talked about Trump before, well,
Speaker 7: you know, one thing I was thinking about before was
Speaker 7: how like somebody like jd Vance, the Vice president, loves
Speaker 7: to go out and love to go out during the
Speaker 7: campaign and do all of those really hard ball interviews
Speaker 7: and really mix it up, mix it up with you know,
Speaker 7: oppositional journalists hone their arguments. He honed arguments. Your arguments
Speaker 7: get better when you argue them. This guy, the whole coalition,
Speaker 7: they seemed scared of their policies, and people saise that
Speaker 7: they said this got this sort of central that they thought,
Speaker 7: you know, the colder felt like, oh, if we tell
Speaker 7: you what our apologies are. You know, we're going to
Speaker 7: get beat up by the media and we don't know
Speaker 7: how to counter of that, so we're just not going
Speaker 7: to tell you anything and we're not going to give
Speaker 7: you anything. It was inauthentic. It was frankly pathetic.
Speaker 2: And also let me just point out to that sickening
Speaker 2: moment where they turned on just Enter Price and let's
Speaker 2: talk about who the leadership contenders are for the Liberal Party.
Speaker 2: But to turn on just Enter Price at the moment
Speaker 2: she said let's make let's make Australia great again.
Speaker 1: She had to retract that.
Speaker 2: It is disgusting, it was embarrassing. She looked like, well,
Speaker 2: just the fear in the eyes as she was saying
Speaker 2: those words.
Speaker 1: You see the fear in the eyes.
Speaker 2: As you were saying of Dutton and the rest of
Speaker 2: them around. Oh my goodness, we're going to be associated
Speaker 2: with total Trump. Yeah, the most successful politician in the world.
Speaker 2: Why didn't you want to be associated with him?
Speaker 7: Again?
Speaker 13: I can't.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, because Labor old you and you fell into
Speaker 2: the trap, walked straight into it, because Labor and the
Speaker 2: ABC played you like a fiddle. Now let's talk about
Speaker 2: Rita who you know, James is right, the Liberal Party,
Speaker 2: if it's to survive, needs a strong conservative leader. They
Speaker 2: will take the wrong lesson out of this and I'll go, oh, well,
Speaker 2: let's put someone who's more like ALBINIZI, let's go more
Speaker 2: to the left, and you're finished, by the way if
Speaker 2: you do that. But Rita, who do you reckons? Who
Speaker 2: have they got?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 6: I was told it was a three way race, but
Speaker 6: this morning apparently it's now become a four way race.
Speaker 6: Angus Taylor is amongst the front runners. I would suggest
Speaker 6: that his performance throughout the election campaign should disqualify him
Speaker 6: from being a front runner.
Speaker 5: But here we.
Speaker 6: Are incredibly Susan lay his names being thrown around and
Speaker 6: if you want to completely decimate and destroy whatever's left
Speaker 6: of the party, please go ahead and do that, because
Speaker 6: that will be fantastic. Andrew Hasty, I think is in
Speaker 6: my mind the clear option. Yes is from wa which
Speaker 6: is not easy if you want him to be prime minister.
Speaker 6: But he is young, he is principled, he is a
Speaker 6: strong advocate for his positions. He's not scared to push
Speaker 6: ahead with a policy agenda that may be unpopular with
Speaker 6: the media, but he's popular with.
Speaker 5: The Australian people.
Speaker 6: He's precisely what you need, and he's got some natural
Speaker 6: gifts like charisma that you can't teach, so why not
Speaker 6: utilize that. But James is another name that's been thrown about.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, so Dan Tiam's name, you know, the immigration
Speaker 7: shadow front bencher, His name is also being tossed around.
Speaker 7: Now I'm glad you mentioned Andrew Hasty because Hasty again
Speaker 7: is emblematic of everything that went wrong with this campaign.
Speaker 7: Ed Hasty should have been one of the great assets
Speaker 7: of this campaign, along with plenty of other people, both
Speaker 7: inside the formal party room and outside. They nobled all
Speaker 7: sorts of great advocates. They nobled Andrew Hasty. Justiner Price
Speaker 7: was not allowed out. Barnaby Joyce, who's very popular in
Speaker 7: the regions, was basically, you know, kept locked in his
Speaker 7: electorate in northern New South Wales. People like Warren Mundane
Speaker 7: weren't used to all of these things. But you know,
Speaker 7: just to this whole thing, who's going to be the
Speaker 7: next leader, Well, my mail is that the knives are
Speaker 7: absolutely out for Angus Taylor everywhere. So you know, they
Speaker 7: blame him for just the failed economic policies that went
Speaker 7: up to the can we even call them policies. I mean, seriously,
Speaker 7: these guys, these guys let and let's just stop all
Speaker 7: this for a second. The coalition, the Liberals let Labor
Speaker 7: move to the right of them on tax cuts, and
Speaker 7: they said we will vote against a tax cut. What
Speaker 7: sort of insanity is that?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 7: And then you had Peter Dutton talking about a tax
Speaker 7: cut being a cost to the budget, which is like, no,
Speaker 7: the point is we need to shrink government and it's
Speaker 7: overweening role in our lives. But let's get back to
Speaker 7: this leadership thing here. Andrew Hasty would be great. I
Speaker 7: think that you know, people say, oh, well, we haven't
Speaker 7: had a party leader since Kim Beasley from Labor, you know,
Speaker 7: and he was from w A. I think in this say,
Speaker 7: I think in this era it's a little easier to
Speaker 7: be opposition leader from WA so I think that's less
Speaker 7: of a thing. But you know, they again, they didn't
Speaker 7: let him out because oh no, he's a Special Forces
Speaker 7: veteran who has views about women in combat that aren't
Speaker 7: completely in accordance. That's the Keels might say about this certainty,
Speaker 7: So all we have to like keep him shut up.
Speaker 7: This guy is one of your best assets. He is
Speaker 7: a veteran, he is an actual veteran. He's the absolute
Speaker 7: model for what you want with this sort of thing.
Speaker 7: And you know he was basically kept out there in
Speaker 7: Wa where they didn't do well anyway, So it's it's
Speaker 7: just ridiculous. The thing is Susan Lay. The danger the
Speaker 7: Liberals are in right now is that they will go
Speaker 7: with Susan Lay, and they will go with the moderate choice,
Speaker 7: and they will make the mistake of saying we need
Speaker 7: to keep being more and more modern. The danger is
Speaker 7: they're going to take all the wrong lessons and say,
Speaker 7: rather than we should have stood up for conservative policies
Speaker 7: that go give people a difference. And you know, there
Speaker 7: was an awful lot of pro test vote out there
Speaker 7: for Pauline Hanson and One Nation because people said I
Speaker 7: cannot give the Libs my one, I'll give them my two.
Speaker 7: And that happened all over the country, so that there
Speaker 7: was Susan I think, and it will be the where
Speaker 7: they wind up in this sort of moderate policy death spiral,
Speaker 7: and then things will have to get really really bad
Speaker 7: in the country before think.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you one thing.
Speaker 5: If you select Susan Lay, get ready to be.
Speaker 6: Zach Kirk Cup or whatever that.
Speaker 14: Is.
Speaker 6: Yes, let's make him a verb, because he absolutely destroyed
Speaker 6: the Liberal brand in wa for consecutive elections. I mean
Speaker 6: the effect was in play even at the last election there.
Speaker 6: You want to select someone who would be comfortable being
Speaker 6: in the tills to lead the center right alternative, you're
Speaker 6: kidding yourself, you know what exactly? You're going to fracture
Speaker 6: votes so badly to the right that the one we passed, Well.
Speaker 2: They're going to fracture the Liberal Party. And that's what
Speaker 2: I'll be talking about later. But let me just say,
Speaker 2: the stars in the Liberal Party are mainly in the Senate.
Speaker 2: So you've got just sent a Nampa jimp for Price,
Speaker 2: an obvious star. Obviously, she sits with the Nats. You've
Speaker 2: got Matt Canavan and Nats. With the Nats, you've got Alexandtik,
Speaker 2: You've got James Patterson.
Speaker 1: So you've got some real talent in the Senate.
Speaker 2: Those who are putting their hand up for the leadership, Yes,
Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty, absolutely, Angus, we shall see. But it's not
Speaker 2: so much about the person, although they are critical. It's
Speaker 2: about whether the party is prepared to adopt a conservative
Speaker 2: rather than as Rita and James were saying, this be
Speaker 2: all things to all people, and try and be a
Speaker 2: teal here and try and be a whatever. You either
Speaker 2: have convictions or you don't. And if you don't have convictions,
Speaker 2: you're going to keep losing against you know, a party,
Speaker 2: the Labor Party, which is single minded, disciplined. They're driven
Speaker 2: entirely by ideology. That ideology nearly all of it completely bonkers,
Speaker 2: but anyway it glues them together.
Speaker 7: So we're in for a very bad three years.
Speaker 1: I've got to say, I'm I want a.
Speaker 6: Bit of praise for the election result and for the
Speaker 6: Prime Minister.
Speaker 5: It could have been far worse, yes.
Speaker 6: And we've said it on this program throughout this year
Speaker 6: when the numbers turned. The worst thing that could have
Speaker 6: happened yesterday was for Labor to win in a minority
Speaker 6: position and have to form a coalition with the Greeds
Speaker 6: and having the Greens have the balance of power. That
Speaker 6: would have been disastrous. So Labor to win in their
Speaker 6: own right is far preferable to that alternative. And I've
Speaker 6: got to say, last time, the first time he won,
Speaker 6: the Prime Minister began his speech by announcing a referendum
Speaker 6: the voice referendum this time around, at least during his speech,
Speaker 6: it was a far more uniting speech. It was far
Speaker 6: more about in Australia together.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you obviously didn't get to the end because
Speaker 2: you went on got a shot quite rightly. But once
Speaker 2: he hit the end, he was in his stride. We'd
Speaker 2: had Penny Wong gloating and Penny Wong is going to
Speaker 2: reintroduce the voice. That's going to happen, and Albow knew
Speaker 2: it and he needed to send that signal out.
Speaker 1: So we got to the end of the speech and
Speaker 1: we got.
Speaker 2: The whole Indigenous this blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: It's going to be on steroids.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get the truth to the Tragy macarate, call
Speaker 2: it what you will. It's coming at us like a
Speaker 2: freight train.
Speaker 7: The one other thing too, though, I mean need a
Speaker 7: speech may have been gracious, but also you know, to
Speaker 7: the point to agree that it was uniting people. You know,
Speaker 7: there is an underlying philosophy here, and it is a
Speaker 7: philosophy of dependence. It is a philosophy of dependency on
Speaker 7: the government. All of those dice words about no one
Speaker 7: left behind. What that means is everybody just sit back,
Speaker 7: and the big Daddy state will keep running up the
Speaker 7: debt and paying for you at every single step of
Speaker 7: your life. And all the things that we make Workspa, well,
Speaker 7: we'll just cover that bill too. Obviously, this is unsustainable.
Speaker 7: I just want to make one more point though about,
Speaker 7: you know, the existential crisis that the Liberal Party is in,
Speaker 7: because we're gonna hear also a lot about in the
Speaker 7: coming days and weeks. We're gonna hear, oh, it was
Speaker 7: a Trump effect, and there's gonna be this great deal
Speaker 7: of cope coming from people in the Liberal Party saying, oh, well,
Speaker 7: if it wasn't for this being Donald Trump, we would
Speaker 7: have done find no nonsense to red terrible campaign with
Speaker 7: no policies. And they're gonna say, and there's a great
Speaker 7: data point here. There were local elections in Great Britain
Speaker 7: just the other day reformed the Farage movement absolutely romped
Speaker 7: it in the Tories, which were where the Liberals are
Speaker 7: now they are nowhere. Everybody is bleeding all from them
Speaker 7: because hey, they stand for nothing. I'm sorry, Liberals, the
Speaker 7: Tori's fate will be yours if you do not remember
Speaker 7: who you are and what you stand for.
Speaker 2: Absolutely and on that point James. The two leaders Qualiev
Speaker 2: and Dotton, conservative leaders who distance themselves from Trump lost.
Speaker 2: The one leader, the Conservative leader Reform Nigel Farage, not
Speaker 2: only embraced the Trump agenda, but his good mates himself
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump, romped it in and smashed the weak
Speaker 2: Conservative Party.
Speaker 1: As well as labor.
Speaker 2: So there you go. There's your lesson, folks. Put that
Speaker 2: in your cup of tea and think about that. We're
Speaker 2: going to take a short break when we come back.
Speaker 2: What's more happening here on Outsiders and Tech.
Speaker 6: You're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan Dean, James Morrow,
Speaker 6: and I'mrita Panahey and soon will be joined by one
Speaker 6: of the coalition's few remaining leaders, Senator Alex antiqu about
Speaker 6: last night's a landslide loss to the Abenze government, a
Speaker 6: government that has overseen a dramatic fall in living standards. Yes,
Speaker 6: the Albanesi government that has plunged the nation into record debt,
Speaker 6: worsening the housing crisis by bringing in record numbers of immigrants.
Speaker 6: The government that presided over sharp increase in the cost
Speaker 6: of living pressures at per capita recession and a decline
Speaker 6: in living standard That is the worst in anywhere in
Speaker 6: the developed world, worse than anywhere in the developed world,
Speaker 6: and they won, and won easily. It's the same government
Speaker 6: that tried to force a reluctant population to accept its
Speaker 6: toxic culture wars with the radical Indigenous Voice to Parliament proposal,
Speaker 6: a proposal that was ultimately rejected by the Australian people
Speaker 6: just eighteen months ago, and by far bigger margin than
Speaker 6: what we saw last night. But the Opposition seemed to
Speaker 6: learn none of the lessons of that victory, and one
Speaker 6: fears they will learn none of the lessons of this loss.
Speaker 6: And already the usual suspects the ABC Guardian, Sydney Morning
Speaker 6: Herald and the rest of the leftist media. The hate
Speaker 6: Conservatives are using this loss to lecture the right about
Speaker 6: what it must do to win. They argue that the
Speaker 6: coalition talking about the unpopularity of Welcome to Country and
Speaker 6: acknowledgment of country in the past week was a big
Speaker 6: reason why they lost. Seriously, they argue that Donald Trump
Speaker 6: is a big reason why they lost. As if we're
Speaker 6: at Canada and being threatened with being reduced to the
Speaker 6: fifty first state. The left want the Libs to never
Speaker 6: talk about issues like the Voice Treaty and the racial
Speaker 6: division of Welcome to Country ceremonies, because that's where the
Speaker 6: Coalition is actually on solid ground. This week we again
Speaker 6: found out why more than sixty percent of Australians voted
Speaker 6: knowing the Voice referendum, with a number of online polls
Speaker 6: showing the overwhelming majority of Australians never want to hear
Speaker 6: a welcome to country again. Eighty three percent said they
Speaker 6: don't want to hear them at work meetings, sporting events
Speaker 6: or ANZAC Day. But last night on the ABC and elsewhere,
Speaker 6: the discussion was used as an example of why the
Speaker 6: Coalition lost. In Beggars belief, It's reminiscent of the leftist
Speaker 6: media and the idiot Quizler in the Liberals, pushing the
Speaker 6: notion that the Victorian Liberals lost elections because they were
Speaker 6: tough on crime, not that you were weak and unprincipled
Speaker 6: on everything else. For the Coalition not to back tax
Speaker 6: cuts for Australian workers is unthinkable, no matter how meager
Speaker 6: the tax cut. A Liberal party should never be against
Speaker 6: workers keeping more of their own money, money they earned.
Speaker 6: Rather than seize upon the momentum of the Voice referendum,
Speaker 6: the coalition became weak and insipid. Conservatives never win by
Speaker 6: being Labor light. They only win when they fight from
Speaker 6: a position of strength and clearly differentiate themselves from the left.
Speaker 6: We saw that during the Voice referendum, and on the
Speaker 6: Voice didn't Penny Wong let the cat out of the bag.
Speaker 6: This week seems like Labor is committed to resurrecting the
Speaker 6: Indigenous Voice to Parliament. Though Penny Wong did try to backtrack,
Speaker 6: she knows how unpopular it is. Her statement is there
Speaker 6: for everyone to see. The big worry is that this
Speaker 6: time around they will bypass the Australian people and the
Speaker 6: democratic process and implement a legislated Voice along with all
Speaker 6: the other recommendations in the Illary statement. And as we've
Speaker 6: been saying over and over again each and every week
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty five on this program, the Coalition has
Speaker 6: failed to properly articulate the dangers posed by a second
Speaker 6: term Albanese government. They have failed to differentiate themselves from
Speaker 6: Labor on key policy areas from energy to population to
Speaker 6: critical cultural issues like the racial politics of the left.
Speaker 6: And that has seen Peter Dutton, who helped deliver a
Speaker 6: landslide Voice victory just eighteen months ago lose his own
Speaker 6: seat to this candidate. W Yes, Yeah, you don't win
Speaker 6: by being weak a mere imitation of labor. We already
Speaker 6: have labor Conservatives don't win by trying to appease their
Speaker 6: opponents or listening to the advice of quizzlings and those
Speaker 6: who want to see them fail.
Speaker 2: Absolutely correct, Reata, you're saying more about the liberal obvious.
Speaker 6: But frankly, can we call this whole program? We told
Speaker 6: you so exactly the great theories and our sort last
Speaker 6: night on the ABC elsewhere, But it's going to get
Speaker 6: turbocharged this week.
Speaker 5: You're going to be hearing nothing but this.
Speaker 6: The lessons that they will learn will be entirely wrong.
Speaker 6: Exactly the same thing happened to Victoria. It's like the
Speaker 6: rest of the country is trailing what's happened politically in Victoria,
Speaker 6: where we have a weak liberal party that doesn't hold
Speaker 6: the government to account, doesn't really stand for anything, tries
Speaker 6: to be labor like, keeps losing, and the lessons it
Speaker 6: takes out of that is.
Speaker 1: We should.
Speaker 5: Let's a choice.
Speaker 6: Let's be more like, let's keep doing the things that
Speaker 6: make us lose. What's the imitation what's the definition.
Speaker 7: Of Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I mean I think also,
Speaker 7: you know, again this comes back. I'm going to keep
Speaker 7: talking about this here. You know, these are structural issues
Speaker 7: that you've got within the Liberal Party. Like if you
Speaker 7: look at how Labor ran their campaign, you got to
Speaker 7: give them real credit. They ran a super tight, super
Speaker 7: disciplined campaign. And Anthony Alberinezi, for all of his many
Speaker 7: faults and his ideological madness, you know, he has been
Speaker 7: a sharp elbowed hard man of the back room politics
Speaker 7: for decades, so he knows exactly how that works. He
Speaker 7: knows how to keep factions under control, you know. And
Speaker 7: in the Labor Party, they have defined factional systems. In
Speaker 7: the Liberal Party, of course, it's all these sort of
Speaker 7: you know, shadowy kind of groups that are always sort
Speaker 7: of fighting one another. You know, it was only John
Speaker 7: Howard who really managed to bring these different groups under
Speaker 7: a big tent with his departure from the political scene.
Speaker 7: Of course, all of that has spun back out again,
Speaker 7: and it's been going on really for twenty years. And Rowan,
Speaker 7: I'm just going to say, just just let me continue,
Speaker 7: just just for a moment here until if they do
Speaker 7: not bring that under control. You will have situations where
Speaker 7: and you had this starting really at the two thousand
Speaker 7: and seven election when I saw it from the inside,
Speaker 7: you know, the situation where Liberals would prefer to fight
Speaker 7: one another than to actually win elections. Well, and this
Speaker 7: is what happens in Victoria. This is what happened I
Speaker 7: think in two thousand and seven when John Howard and
Speaker 7: the coalition left, and I think you know, this beset
Speaker 7: them throughout their time in government and has beset them
Speaker 7: throughout the time outside of government. You have people who
Speaker 7: would rather take down a leader so that they could,
Speaker 7: you know, fight over the spoils of defeat, rather than
Speaker 7: actually going together as a united team. It's a structural
Speaker 7: problem with how the liberals organize themselves. It has always
Speaker 7: been a problem that they've had and it needs to
Speaker 7: be fixed.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it also goes to all of that is correct,
Speaker 2: but the leader of the conservative or liberal or coalition,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, the leader must know
Speaker 2: what they stand for and have core conservative values, which
Speaker 2: is what John Howard. You knew what he was going
Speaker 2: to say beforehand, you knew where he stood on all
Speaker 2: these issues.
Speaker 1: You knew when he.
Speaker 2: Came out and made a point about morality or whatever
Speaker 2: it was. It was from solid conservative convictions. We had
Speaker 2: that with Tony Abbott Turnbull and co ripped that away.
Speaker 2: I thought we had that with Peter Dutton. I thought
Speaker 2: we did, and we did on his stance on Israel,
Speaker 2: and we did on his stance on the voice.
Speaker 1: But what really shocked me.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it was the u turns during the campaign,
Speaker 2: as James were saying, for example, when we had all
Speaker 2: that silly booing at the ANZAC thing, Yes, disrespectful and
Speaker 2: all the rest, of course it was. But Peter Dutton's
Speaker 2: instinctive thing was to say, you know, oh no, no,
Speaker 2: the welcome to country is a key part of our
Speaker 2: ANZAC ceremony.
Speaker 13: No it's not.
Speaker 1: And then twenty four.
Speaker 2: Hours later, when the polls were showing that everybody wants
Speaker 2: to get rid of this thing, oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we're going to make sure that there isn't a welcome
Speaker 2: to country and you can't.
Speaker 1: You've got to be consistent and have core values.
Speaker 2: And sorry that it appeared Peter Dutton was either didn't
Speaker 2: have those core values or was prepared to just suppress
Speaker 2: them for the sake of the idiots. In the back
Speaker 2: room with their focus groups and their whiteboards.
Speaker 6: Just what I said in reality check. I watched the
Speaker 6: ABC last night, so you didn't have to took one
Speaker 6: for the time. Well done, claud It's please and I
Speaker 6: can if I had a drink every time they mentioned
Speaker 6: the Welcome to Country discussion in the last week, I'd
Speaker 6: be too drunk to be here today. Because they were
Speaker 6: obsessed with it. It was mentioned incessantly. It's being used
Speaker 6: as a reason why the Liberals lost ad This is
Speaker 6: how insane she is. And the problem is, I think
Speaker 6: there will be people within the Liberal Party who, despite
Speaker 6: the polls, despite the voice resolve, despite everything they should know,
Speaker 6: will go Yeah, maybe us talking about Welcome to Country
Speaker 6: is not being a good idea during Anzac Day, Maybe
Speaker 6: that's what made us instead of actually looking at the
Speaker 6: real reasons they lost. And we've discussed them at nauseum
Speaker 6: there and I think so much is now going to
Speaker 6: rest on who they select.
Speaker 15: Me.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to get from a friend saying make
Speaker 2: just center price there. However you do it get her
Speaker 2: to be the leader. I know, we know all that,
Speaker 2: and she's in the other party, but anyway, that's the
Speaker 2: public mood. Now here's just Center on the ABC WI
Speaker 2: Trea watched last night again they're attacking her on this
Speaker 2: Trump mythood trump oo teds.
Speaker 16: Have a look, Peter Dutton tonight has lost his seat
Speaker 16: with your embrace of Donald Trump make Australia great again?
Speaker 16: Are you part of the reason for that loss?
Speaker 14: Oh that's a it's a big call, don't you think.
Speaker 14: I mean, you sling enough mud in an election, it sticks.
Speaker 14: And we did see a prime minister who absolutely misled
Speaker 14: the Australian people all the way through and was rarely
Speaker 14: called out for his conduct. And I think that's absolutely deceitful.
Speaker 16: Let's just talk about this. Let's just talk about this seriously.
Speaker 16: At a time when Donald Trump was sending shop around
Speaker 16: seriously you well, it's not a smear campaign.
Speaker 2: I just won't.
Speaker 16: I want you to address it seriously, just Center, at
Speaker 16: the time that Donald Trump was sending shock waves around
Speaker 16: the world disturbing, so disturbing.
Speaker 14: You don't think if you don't think that I'm if
Speaker 14: you don't think that I'm addressing this seriously, I am
Speaker 14: addressing this deadly seriously, in that if you sling enough mud,
Speaker 14: it will stick and absolutely labor certainly the media are
Speaker 14: slung enough mud in terms of this particular issue.
Speaker 2: That's the future of the conservative movement in this country
Speaker 2: if you're smart enough, James.
Speaker 7: Well yeah, and is too is It's going to be
Speaker 7: an awful lot of conservatives this morning who are going
Speaker 7: to be looking at the coalition and feeling like they're
Speaker 7: politically homeless because they basically exiled people like just Enter Price,
Speaker 7: who are strong, brilliant, intelligent, articulate communicators of these values,
Speaker 7: policies and ideas and said, no.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to take.
Speaker 7: Like unlike Peter Dutton, who would you know, who avoided
Speaker 7: things like the press club, which is a hostile room
Speaker 7: but where you need to go and you need to
Speaker 7: do things like this. But you know, one of the
Speaker 7: other things that struck me I watched Sky last night
Speaker 7: because I didn't have the stomach for the ABC reader.
Speaker 7: You have a strong constitution, but also I also also
Speaker 7: I wanted just actually to get you know, like the
Speaker 7: truth and not all this sort of the lefty spin.
Speaker 7: But you know, it was really quite remarkable seeing uh
Speaker 7: Labor called out on their lies and the lies that
Speaker 7: they ran through the entire campaign. And I just want
Speaker 7: to play a little bit of an exchange that our
Speaker 7: own Peter Kredline had with Burry White, who was a
Speaker 7: real sort of attack dog of this campaign. Have a
Speaker 7: look at this and then let's have a chat about it.
Speaker 4: Some of the bluest and bluest areas the most difficult
Speaker 4: for the Liberal Party now, so I would be careful.
Speaker 2: We'll just say that about well.
Speaker 1: Been allowed to happen. Obviously they're all women.
Speaker 4: Well, because when you've got a bit more money in
Speaker 4: your pocket, you maybe not focused on things like cost
Speaker 4: of living. You've got an ability to look at other issues.
Speaker 4: And if the election, if the elections about cost of living,
Speaker 4: you tell me how you guys keep losing poor old
Speaker 4: seats where people are struggling.
Speaker 17: I think they're really interesting things.
Speaker 4: Why are you going to be eat?
Speaker 17: Whether the strategy is Peter Dutton pursued, and I know
Speaker 17: you encouraged him to pursue Peter of ditching the teal
Speaker 17: seats for the outer suburbs, whether it pays.
Speaker 4: Off, I've never ever, very I've never advocated ditching the
Speaker 4: teal seat. You've certainly I'm always advocated, coming from a poor,
Speaker 4: backward part of regional Victoria, that those places cannot should
Speaker 4: not be forgotten by the Liberal Party.
Speaker 17: The strategy, the strategy will be.
Speaker 4: Your mouth is writing checks, your brain can't cash.
Speaker 7: O mouth is writing checks, your brain can cash. I mean,
Speaker 7: it was a brilliant line from Peter. But also it
Speaker 7: was really I think interesting having Burry Watt there on
Speaker 7: the desk because he literally would laugh in the face
Speaker 7: of when he was accused of lying and being part
Speaker 7: of a labor campaign that just lied, lied, lied, liud
Speaker 7: line all the way down, and it really showed I
Speaker 7: think the nature of labor. They're completely shameless, they're completely brazen,
Speaker 7: and you know, they don't care how much they lie
Speaker 7: because for them they understand power and I think they
Speaker 7: understand power in a way that the right doesn't.
Speaker 1: Let's have a look as well.
Speaker 7: Sorry, Reech.
Speaker 2: Let's also see Pauline Hanson tackling Murray what last night
Speaker 2: as well?
Speaker 17: What do you think explains that changing position from the
Speaker 17: coalition that they moved from the John Howard position of
Speaker 17: putting you guys last to all of a sudden putting
Speaker 17: in number two.
Speaker 18: Because Murray right from the beginning, John have when we
Speaker 18: one eleven seats of nineteen ninety eight in both you
Speaker 18: and the Coalition John Howard at that time, and you
Speaker 18: were determined to actually get rid of one Nation.
Speaker 6: That's why you have preferenced us last.
Speaker 18: Your stance about where Racist Party is a load of rubbish.
Speaker 16: You know that.
Speaker 18: You know we are a contemning factor of you winning
Speaker 18: seats in the Parliament. So you keep this fast going.
Speaker 18: When you look at the Greens what they stand for,
Speaker 18: but you preference them again above one Nation, well you know, Murray.
Speaker 5: You can lie straight in there.
Speaker 18: And the whole fact is you keep saying one nation
Speaker 18: because I work with Coalition. I don't agree with everything
Speaker 18: that they say and they don't agree with everything that
Speaker 18: I say either.
Speaker 2: You are not.
Speaker 5: True to your word.
Speaker 18: You it's a political game to you, it's not to me.
Speaker 18: I have no time for you or the Labor Party.
Speaker 11: You're all talk, you.
Speaker 2: Know, right, fantastic James, You're right. Look, I'm glad Murray
Speaker 2: what came on sky it was great, But he did
Speaker 2: you know, symbolize if you like that there was a
Speaker 2: was a clear arrogance.
Speaker 1: Stephen Conroy was warning about that.
Speaker 7: You know is to know and it's support for the
Speaker 7: right and support for the liberals. To know what they're
Speaker 7: up against.
Speaker 6: But also they have to know that the media isn't
Speaker 6: going to do the work that they should. Sare the
Speaker 6: media in this country lean heavily left. We saw that
Speaker 6: throughout the election campaign where they would be posing hostile
Speaker 6: questions to Dutton and Albo was their best mate. But
Speaker 6: can I just say one, that's what you've got to
Speaker 6: do the work.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they're going to take a short break now back
Speaker 2: in atic Hello, you're watching Outsiders with Rita Panahee, James
Speaker 2: Morrow and myself Rowan Dean.
Speaker 1: And so the blame game begins.
Speaker 2: Predictably, there is a veritable rogues gallery of those who
Speaker 2: will be scapegoated for the coalitions lamentable and entirely unnecessary
Speaker 2: disastrous loss.
Speaker 1: Heading what will be grow?
Speaker 2: What will grow into a Melbourne's Cup of contenders for
Speaker 2: the person who lost it for the Libs will of
Speaker 2: course be Yes, you guessed.
Speaker 1: It, Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Already, this particular horse has been trotting around the field
Speaker 2: for weeks, with all sorts of punters blaming the US
Speaker 2: President for all the woes under the sun, but in
Speaker 2: particular for Peter Dutton's disastrous campaign and loss.
Speaker 1: This despite the fact that Donald Trump barely even knows
Speaker 1: who Peter Dutton.
Speaker 2: Is, and doesn't have much time for Albo either, as
Speaker 2: he made clear a week or so ago Astralian Crime
Speaker 2: telling election this week, that's try they are calling and
Speaker 2: I will be joking doing him. The argument that Trump
Speaker 2: is to blame for the Coalition loss.
Speaker 1: Is as fatuous as it is self deluded. The Coalition
Speaker 1: had a.
Speaker 2: Very clear choice when Trump was elected to fully embrace
Speaker 2: him or to distance themselves from him. Dutton and his
Speaker 2: advisors chose the latter, and equivocally and relentlessly they alienated Trump.
Speaker 2: Rather than saying we are very excited by the election
Speaker 2: of Donald Trump because although we may disagree on some things,
Speaker 2: ultimately we share his core values, such as opposition to
Speaker 2: the woke leftist agenda and a belief in securing cheap
Speaker 2: and reliable energy in order to combat the cost of
Speaker 2: living and reinvigorate our industries and jobs, Peter Dutton went
Speaker 2: the opposite way, proclaiming people have nothing to fear from
Speaker 2: a Trump presidency, showing the fear in his eyes, implying
Speaker 2: Trump's election was some kind of calamity or natural disaster
Speaker 2: and it never got any better. Peter Dutton ranted about
Speaker 2: the Zelensky meeting and described Elon Musk as evil, an
Speaker 2: evil genius. Dutton nailed his colors clearly to the anti
Speaker 2: Trump mast and his ship sank. Had Dutton gone the
Speaker 2: other way, as I repeatedly urged here on Outsiders and
Speaker 2: in The Spectator Australia, he would, in my opinion, now
Speaker 2: be basking in the glow of a remarkable victory, or
Speaker 2: at least a minority labor government. He would have hopped
Speaker 2: on a plane to Washington and established a relationship with Trump,
Speaker 2: which he should have done right from the beginning, and
Speaker 2: which would have meant he would have been able to
Speaker 2: say all through the campaign, I know and chat to
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I guarantee I will get us a better
Speaker 2: trade deal than Anthony ALBANIZI, who can't even get a
Speaker 2: phone call with the US president.
Speaker 1: Never happened.
Speaker 2: Even Ryan Liddell, Bill Shorten's former chief of staff, admitted
Speaker 2: here on Sky it was ridiculous to blame Trump for
Speaker 2: the coalition's disastrous campaign. More importantly, the one conservative politician
Speaker 2: who has stuck like glue to Donald Trump is Nigel Farage.
Speaker 1: And guess what this week he is basking.
Speaker 2: In an extraordinary victory for his Reform Party in the
Speaker 2: UK an unequivocally conservative and populist party next And it
Speaker 2: would have been so easy. When Trump pulled out of
Speaker 2: the Paris Agreement, Peter Dutton should have said.
Speaker 1: The world has changed.
Speaker 2: All the major industrialized nations are no longer committed net zero.
Speaker 2: It is suicidal, It is folly for us to also
Speaker 2: be committed to net zero. So a coalition government will
Speaker 2: withdraw from the Paris Agreement in order to immediately restore
Speaker 2: cheap and reliable energy to this nation and drive down
Speaker 2: the cost of living. That message should have then been
Speaker 2: hammered home every day. This would have forced Chris Bowen
Speaker 2: to the front of the Labour's election campaign. Albo wisely
Speaker 2: kept him hidden in the lodge basement, handcuffed to the
Speaker 2: plumbing pipes for the duration of the campaign. And then
Speaker 2: when the net zero blackouts hit Europe last week, with
Speaker 2: even people like Tony Blair saying net zero is a disaster,
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton would have been able to say, I told
Speaker 2: you so. My call to pull out of Paris will
Speaker 2: save Australia from exactly the same fate. The joke about
Speaker 2: blaming Trump for Dutton's loss is that Dutton lost because
Speaker 2: he distanced himself from Trump. It showed weakness, it showed timidity,
Speaker 2: and it played straight into Labour's hands. Had Dutton actually
Speaker 2: followed the Trump playbook, as I repeatedly urged, attack woke,
Speaker 2: attack immigration, stop immigration, destroy the Left, he could, and
Speaker 2: my opinion, would have won. There was no love for labor.
Speaker 2: People just didn't see in the coalition a party that
Speaker 2: stands for something or even anything. They didn't see a
Speaker 2: coalition that was ready to fight for them because they
Speaker 2: couldn't even fight for themselves. All they saw was equivocation
Speaker 2: and cowardice. Let me be crystal clear. The decision to
Speaker 2: distance the Libs, the decision to distance the Libs from
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, was an unmitigated disaster.
Speaker 1: When Peter Dutton was.
Speaker 2: Trump like, strong, powerful and fighting the woke orthodoxy, he
Speaker 2: won the unwinnable referendum. When Peter Dutton went anti Trump,
Speaker 2: didn't attack woke when Labor light, he lost not only
Speaker 2: the election but also his seat. All the Trump haters
Speaker 2: can and will try and spin it however they like,
Speaker 2: but the facts are simple. The anti Trump, small target,
Speaker 2: pro woke strategy was a disaster. You go woke, you
Speaker 2: go broke. Let me say this with a minimum of hubris.
Speaker 2: When Peter Dutton and the Coalition listened to this show
Speaker 2: and followed every single piece of advice from Rita James
Speaker 2: and myself on the Voice, they won in a landslide.
Speaker 2: When Peter Dutton and the Coalition ignored every single piece
Speaker 2: of advice given to them by Rita James and myself
Speaker 2: again and again and again over the past nine months
Speaker 2: about how to win government, they lost in a landslide.
Speaker 2: You can draw your own conclusions, but there is literally
Speaker 2: not a single other television show in Australia that can
Speaker 2: say the same thing, not one. On another note, let
Speaker 2: me repeat Peter Dutton's greatest legacy is not in fact
Speaker 2: winning the Voice referendum, magnificent though that was, But rather
Speaker 2: his greatest legacy was his unequivocal, unwavering and full throated
Speaker 2: support for Israel after the horrors of October seventh had
Speaker 2: a nightmare time for Australian Jews. For that, Peter Dutton
Speaker 2: must be eternally honored and the Liberal Party must retain
Speaker 2: that unequivocal support no matter what lies ahead. Let me
Speaker 2: also make this point the Labor Party did not tear
Speaker 2: down Peter Dutton. The woke leftist bedwetters of the Liberal
Speaker 2: Party tore down Peter Dutton and destroyed the Liberal Party
Speaker 2: in the process. The next two horses in our Melbourne's
Speaker 2: cup field of people to blame will be just Center
Speaker 2: Price and Andrew Hasty for supposed clangers made during gaffes
Speaker 2: made during the campaign. Jacent her and this goes back
Speaker 2: to the Trump nonsense, said we should be making Australia
Speaker 2: great again. When she did so, the Dutton mobble clearly
Speaker 2: forced her to back away from those comments, which was
Speaker 2: simply idiotic. Who doesn't want to make Australia great again?
Speaker 1: And if not, why not?
Speaker 2: Worse, Some in the cam coalition are blaming the decision
Speaker 2: to appoint you Center to a Doze style position, saying
Speaker 2: that was a mistake. It was only a mistake because
Speaker 2: they didn't do anything with it or with her. Jacenter
Speaker 2: should have been out there every single day of the
Speaker 2: campaign with a list of the hundreds of ridiculous labor
Speaker 2: government projects where hundreds of thousands, even millions of taxpayers
Speaker 2: dollars are being spent and wasted on frivolous indigenous bodies
Speaker 2: in Canberra, diversity in our inclosure, inclusion woke rubbish bureaucrats,
Speaker 2: while ordinary Australians can barely eat or feed, or clothe
Speaker 2: or heat themselves. As for Andrew Hasty's comments dredged up
Speaker 2: from a decade ago about not allowing women into frontline combat.
Speaker 1: Rather than running like scared rabbits, quick quick.
Speaker 2: Playing hide the Hasty, the Coalition should simply have said
Speaker 2: Andrew Hasty is a former SAS officer. If anyone wishes
Speaker 2: to question him on his views, go and spend a
Speaker 2: few years the hellhole of Afghanistan first, and then give
Speaker 2: us your opinion, end of discussion. As we're seeing in
Speaker 2: an article in the Daily Telegraph this week, the bedwetters
Speaker 2: and the Liberal Party are already trying to scapegoat the
Speaker 2: so called right wingers, including Hastian Price for gaths.
Speaker 1: Gaths during the election.
Speaker 2: Also running a strong race in the blame game is
Speaker 2: according to that James Campbell article, Shadow treasurer Angus Taylor.
Speaker 2: Angus is blamed for not having prepared a proper opposition
Speaker 2: tax policy. Fair enough, but it is hard to escape
Speaker 2: the conclusion that those speaking off the record in this
Speaker 2: article are the bedwetters who are desperate to cling on
Speaker 2: to power and are therefore scapegoating everybody on the so
Speaker 2: called so called right of the Liberal Party. There are
Speaker 2: also all sorts of attempts to blame this or that staffer,
Speaker 2: or this or that group at HQ, and there is
Speaker 2: no question that the backroom mob performed abysmally. But the
Speaker 2: reality is that the rot starts at the top and
Speaker 2: the blame must rest predominantly, if not.
Speaker 1: Entirely, with the leader, Peter Dutton.
Speaker 2: Peter Dutton was magnificent during the Joys campaign once he
Speaker 2: was on board with No and Dutton has been superb
Speaker 2: in his unequivocal support for Israel. As I said, that
Speaker 2: was the Peter Dutton that could, would and should have
Speaker 2: won the election in a landslide, single minded, fighting the
Speaker 2: work madness with conviction and purpose. Instead, what we got
Speaker 2: was an almost unrecognizable Dutton, timid, scared of his own shadow,
Speaker 2: scared of anything vaguely Trumpian or right wing, awkward ambivalent,
Speaker 2: dancing to the focus groups and ultimately dancing to Labour's tune.
Speaker 1: On virtually every single issue.
Speaker 2: Oppositions must oppose, not mimic, not agree, not minimize differences.
Speaker 2: People are instinctively wary of leaders who look unsure of themselves,
Speaker 2: and rightly so. Peter Dutton, a conviction politician, would now
Speaker 2: be headed for the lodge. Peter Dutton chose to abandon
Speaker 2: those core beliefs and followed the siren call of the
Speaker 2: polsters and focus groups and bedwetting back room boys. You
Speaker 2: reap what you sew. By the way, last week I
Speaker 2: told you about a brilliant line A friend of mine wrote.
Speaker 1: Give Albo the elbow.
Speaker 2: There it is, asked it across a poster on Albow's
Speaker 2: own seat.
Speaker 1: Clearly hit the nerve.
Speaker 2: Maybe if the Libs had tried a little harder. The
Speaker 2: great tragedy is now we must suffer three more years
Speaker 2: under what will undoubtedly be the worst government in Australia's history.
Speaker 2: There's only one thing worse than a deluded labor government,
Speaker 2: and that's an arrogant, deluded labor government. But the question
Speaker 2: now has to be asked, is the modern Liberal party,
Speaker 2: the so called broad Church, actually fit for purpose. Personally,
Speaker 2: I'd rather see a national Conservative party combining the nationals
Speaker 2: one nation the other, Libertarian family Trumpets or whatever they're called.
Speaker 2: All of those outstand and the outstanding members of the
Speaker 2: Liberal Party who do wish to make Australia great again.
Speaker 2: The Bedwetting Liberals have been an unmitigated disaster. They destroyed
Speaker 2: Tony Abbott, they gave us Malcolm Turnbull, they gave us
Speaker 2: Scott Morrison, they wasted nine years in government, and then
Speaker 2: they destroyed Peter Dutton's chants, the hero of the Voice.
Speaker 2: Let the Bedwethers form their own party, they can even
Speaker 2: call it the Bedweters. I'll let them, and let's have
Speaker 2: a proper national Conservative Party, a party prepared to fight
Speaker 2: climate change, dogma and net zero, fight indigenous separatism and
Speaker 2: woke identity politics, and stand for traditional Judeo Christian enlightenment,
Speaker 2: pro Western and pro American values.
Speaker 1: The sooner the better for us all.
Speaker 2: Liberal Senator alexanderk joins us now to analyze the election results.
Speaker 1: Alex you've heard what I have to say.
Speaker 2: Tell me what you think about the loss and our
Speaker 2: view as outsiders. Viewers will not forgive me if I
Speaker 2: do not say you should be the next leader of
Speaker 2: the Liberal Party.
Speaker 1: So there I've said it, and you can do without
Speaker 1: what you want. But that's what.
Speaker 2: Outsiders unbeariably think you and just center under Matt Canavan
Speaker 2: and others, other stars, and that the Liberal Party is
Speaker 2: in a real mess.
Speaker 1: What happened Alex.
Speaker 19: Well, thanks Ryan, It's very nice of you, but my
Speaker 19: place in the Senate would prevent that, and I'm not sure.
Speaker 19: I'm not sure my path leads that way, but it's
Speaker 19: very nice for me to say that. Anyway, look the
Speaker 19: wrong way to start, I mean, I think probably the
Speaker 19: first thing to say is that, you know, it's difficult,
Speaker 19: difficult time for a lot of good people and colleagues,
Speaker 19: Peter included. Peter's a very good bloke, he really is.
Speaker 19: And the tragedy of this is that people never, really
Speaker 19: I don't think, saw the very kind, very quick witted
Speaker 19: and mischievously humored Peter Dutton out of all of this.
Speaker 19: I wish that there had been more of that, but
Speaker 19: I think in politics there is too much spin, too
Speaker 19: many focus groups, too many attempts to sort of try
Speaker 19: and turn things into things they're not.
Speaker 13: And he would have been a very good prime minister.
Speaker 19: But unfortunately in this country, conservative politics, the Conservative movement
Speaker 19: has I think, and I have said it for a
Speaker 19: very long period of time. Let Australians down by allowing
Speaker 19: things that are simply and demonstrably not true to be
Speaker 19: repeated ad nauseum over.
Speaker 13: And over again.
Speaker 19: We're talking about net zero, We're talking about the sorts
Speaker 19: of things that are going on in our classrooms. We're
Speaker 19: talking about allowing you know, this this nonsense of the
Speaker 19: pushback against colonial.
Speaker 13: Here.
Speaker 7: So I just want to hap in here on this here,
Speaker 7: because you know, a moment ago you said that Peter
Speaker 7: Dutton is a quick witted individual, and you know and
Speaker 7: that there's all these sort of labor lives out there.
Speaker 7: Where was this quick witted individual when we needed him
Speaker 7: to go out there and push back against every live
Speaker 7: from nuclear reactors cost six hundred million dollars to they're
Speaker 7: going to take away your free medicare or all of
Speaker 7: this sort of stuff. This was the most flat footed
Speaker 7: campaign by an opposition leader I have seen for ages.
Speaker 7: He is the first opposition leader since World War Two
Speaker 7: to suffer upswing against his own party, you know, at
Speaker 7: the first term election, being out of power. What accounts
Speaker 7: for the way in which this campaign was conducted and
Speaker 7: why there was absolutely no pushback against an absolute symphony
Speaker 7: of lies from the Labor Party. Was it the focus groups.
Speaker 7: Was it campaign headquarters? Does campaign headquarters have something to
Speaker 7: do with getting in the way of Peter Dutton running
Speaker 7: the campaign? Yeah?
Speaker 13: Well, James, I was getting to that.
Speaker 19: I must say that the whole argument about what went
Speaker 19: wrong with a campaign is probably a different stream. My
Speaker 19: point is just simply that I feel sorry for Peter
Speaker 19: because I think he's a good bloke. But look, the
Speaker 19: reality of that is no, I don't think the campaign
Speaker 19: was of any sort of quality at all. Frankly, I
Speaker 19: mean I think it simply didn't have policy that resonated.
Speaker 19: I mean many of the policies were in my mind
Speaker 19: reminiscent of a mobile phone contract. You know, for the
Speaker 19: first twelve months you'll get something free.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: There was a whole.
Speaker 19: Host of which I don't mean to be flippant about,
Speaker 19: but that's just instinctively. I would hear things like we're
Speaker 19: going to cut fuel excise and I would think great,
Speaker 19: but why only for twelve months? So I think these
Speaker 19: are some of the problems. There wasn't the depth of
Speaker 19: gifts on offer. I mean, in many cases I feel
Speaker 19: very sorry for some of our excellent candidates, particularly here
Speaker 19: in South Australia. We've done a power of work trying
Speaker 19: to get real people back into politics. But unfortunately we
Speaker 19: sent the troops into battle without ammunition. And so I
Speaker 19: think that is now one problem. Now to the issue
Speaker 19: of nuclear in particular, we look, I just can't answer
Speaker 19: that because we announced what I think was a very
Speaker 19: good and sensible nuclear policy and then wouldn't talk about it.
Speaker 19: So I don't know the answer to that. But what
Speaker 19: I do know is that this rot this will never
Speaker 19: be explainable simply in.
Speaker 13: The last four weeks.
Speaker 19: What we have to look back is the last twenty
Speaker 19: years of conservative politics, where we simply have waved and
Speaker 19: smiled and nodded and pushed things through, and there hasn't
Speaker 19: been enough pushback.
Speaker 13: I can tell you.
Speaker 19: I'm in there day to day making these points around
Speaker 19: anyone that will listen, getting called all sorts of names,
Speaker 19: hard right, far right, whatever. I was the only member
Speaker 19: of the coalition that crossed the floor to vote against
Speaker 19: the hate crimes bills. I voted against the social media bills.
Speaker 19: There are things that are just not being said inside
Speaker 19: the walls of the Liberal Party and they have to.
Speaker 19: And look, I think the other thing you need to
Speaker 19: say is that I think there are people inside the
Speaker 19: party that didn't want Peter to become the prime minister.
Speaker 19: I myself was the subject of a story that was
Speaker 19: backgrounded trying to effectively pick on one word I said
Speaker 19: back in twenty twenty two, which apparently was anti Semitic,
Speaker 19: which it was not as far as I was concerned.
Speaker 19: That was shopped around to multiple journalists, and when I
Speaker 19: asked the question about where this had come from, I
Speaker 19: was told, inside your walls. So what's that all about it,
Speaker 19: why is that happening?
Speaker 7: And who?
Speaker 19: It doesn't damage me? I'm number one on the ticket.
Speaker 19: I was never going to not get elected, but I
Speaker 19: suspect it damaged Peter.
Speaker 6: Well, how do you address that, how do you address
Speaker 6: the bedwords, the quizzlings, the enemy within which seems to
Speaker 6: be more interested in defeating conservatives within the Liberal Party
Speaker 6: than actually defeating labor.
Speaker 13: Well, a very good question, and there's a very simple answer.
Speaker 13: I don't.
Speaker 19: I mean, look, I have a lot of time for
Speaker 19: some of the personalities inside the minor conservative parties, but
Speaker 19: I do not believe there is another answer, And we
Speaker 19: seen it in the United States. The Republican Party is
Speaker 19: stronger under a stronger conservative leader. And I think the
Speaker 19: same is true here. People are hardwired to vote red
Speaker 19: or blue.
Speaker 13: In this country. It's like a game of football.
Speaker 19: There's only red and blue on the team on the field,
Speaker 19: and everyone else is in the stands shouting. What we
Speaker 19: have to do is make sure that we make the
Speaker 19: Liberal Party great again.
Speaker 13: I said it.
Speaker 19: There we go, so we can make Australia great again,
Speaker 19: by the way, and no one should have any backlash
Speaker 19: about that. That's a simple statement. Trump himself said it
Speaker 19: during the American campaign.
Speaker 13: Why are they.
Speaker 19: Getting stuck into this logan who doesn't want to make
Speaker 19: America great again?
Speaker 13: But onto the issue.
Speaker 19: What needs to happen is doing what we're doing here
Speaker 19: in South Australia, which is having real people join up
Speaker 19: at ten day gms, at ten pre selections and make
Speaker 19: sure that you're getting proper true blue, big earl liberals
Speaker 19: who are representing your party. That is a long process.
Speaker 19: It is happening here almost everybody. I would say that
Speaker 19: we are now pre selecting I would say very true
Speaker 19: liberals in South Australia, and the machine has changed now. Unfortunately,
Speaker 19: there was a national swing on and we lost some
Speaker 19: very good people people liked very quickly. It was a
Speaker 19: candidate in the very red Scena zaghlodovn Macon and so
Speaker 19: that is the blueprint forward here.
Speaker 13: It's not running off.
Speaker 2: Just quick question, reform Australia.
Speaker 5: Who's going to reform the party?
Speaker 6: Who's the next leader?
Speaker 13: I just don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 19: I think the names that have been thrown around are
Speaker 19: all probably right, but you know, I just I just
Speaker 19: don't know.
Speaker 13: I simply don't know.
Speaker 19: I mean, I think, you know, Angus and Andrew are
Speaker 19: two good names as well, like Dan.
Speaker 13: So you know, I just don't know the answer.
Speaker 2: We'll carry this discussion on later. Thanks Alex Antick, we'll
Speaker 2: speak to you again. Sin thanks so much for coming
Speaker 2: here on Outsiders. Now we're going to cross to London
Speaker 2: where Myra and Central. Nathan has been waking and staying
Speaker 2: up very late for us. Myron. Always great to see.
Speaker 2: We do appreciate. Sorry we had a few technical things earlier.
Speaker 2: Now this is extraordinary. We our conservatives here just lost
Speaker 2: a thumping election because they were terrified of the words
Speaker 2: Donald Trump basically and ran in circles around anythink that
Speaker 2: was vaguely conservative. Nigel Farage has just performed the most
Speaker 2: stunning results in two by elections and councilor elections where
Speaker 2: Reform has surged ahead winning extraordinary because it's the first
Speaker 2: part of the post system, winning one Canada by only
Speaker 2: six votes out of some twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: Extraordinary stuff. Myron, tell us, how's.
Speaker 2: It feeling like to be in Britain to have a
Speaker 2: proper Conservative party back again?
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, this is an amazing time because yes they were,
Speaker 8: these were just local elections, but in reality these elections
Speaker 8: have ushered in a whole new political landscape that probably
Speaker 8: only happens once in a century because the first pastor
Speaker 8: post system, as you mentioned, has been well and truly broken.
Speaker 8: When Nigel came back on July last year during the
Speaker 8: general election, he said he would just make a bridge
Speaker 8: head into Parliament. So the first crack of that first
Speaker 8: past to post system, which locks in Labor and the Conservatives,
Speaker 8: was made in July. And then as he progressed and
Speaker 8: during making arenas, filling up arenas with thousands of people
Speaker 8: and campaigning across the country. The accusation was Reform is
Speaker 8: just a protest party. It's something that is celebratory, yes,
Speaker 8: but full of rasma tas. But nothing really of substance.
Speaker 8: So the real test came in these local elections where
Speaker 8: the polling had to translate into actual votes, and that
Speaker 8: is what has happened, and it's been an absolute blood
Speaker 8: bath for the opposition parties. Reform got six hundred and
Speaker 8: seventy on councilors elected, ten local councils come under their control.
Speaker 8: Plus this by election of parliamentary by election, as you said,
Speaker 8: one by six votes, which was previously lost by fifteen
Speaker 8: thousand votes and now.
Speaker 7: Just one by six votes.
Speaker 8: So what this shows is Reform is not a protest party.
Speaker 8: It's not just something you just cast your vote just
Speaker 8: to send a message somewhere. It is now locked into
Speaker 8: local government. So yes, Labor have the national government authority
Speaker 8: in Parliament, but the local government across England and probably
Speaker 8: next year in Wales and Scotland will be run by
Speaker 8: Reform UK. This is shattering the UNI Party, shattering the
Speaker 8: first past to post system.
Speaker 5: This is astonishing.
Speaker 6: What is the future of the Tory Party. Will they
Speaker 6: merge into Reform or just become history.
Speaker 8: Well, Nigel Faraj has actually declared the Conservative Party effectively
Speaker 8: dead because they have been hollowed out in all the
Speaker 8: shires and all the counties, so they have no real
Speaker 8: grassroots base. So kenmy Badenoch who's in charge of the
Speaker 8: Conservative Party, I mean she said she doesn't want to
Speaker 8: have a packed just yet. It's probably too early to say,
Speaker 8: but they are on the naughty step. They are groveling
Speaker 8: because they're paying the price for the Boris wave of
Speaker 8: immigration where he let in net immigration at over near
Speaker 8: enough a million people in one year, and so the
Speaker 8: Conservative Party have lost their constitutional philosophy, Their principles are scattered.
Speaker 8: They're a divided party and as a result of that
Speaker 8: that the British electorate have no faith in them whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And Myron just want to ask you about what this
Speaker 2: means in terms of policies.
Speaker 1: Like net zero, like immigration.
Speaker 2: Nigel Farag has come out and said, as far as
Speaker 2: he's concerned, and the councilors can start firing their climate
Speaker 2: and diversity and inclusion people, which is great news. But
Speaker 2: there are real policies that are in place, tell.
Speaker 1: Us about them.
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I think Nigel has taken a bit of
Speaker 8: inspiration for me, little mask And the first thing is
Speaker 8: the local government waste that there's going to be a
Speaker 8: kind of doge movement that's going to happen all across
Speaker 8: local government. Massive efficiency savings going across because as you've
Speaker 8: seen in America, it's happening all across governments across the world.
Speaker 13: And so that's the first thing.
Speaker 8: The auditors are going to come in and look at
Speaker 8: the books and look at the accounts. And as you said,
Speaker 8: all kind of renewable wind solar farms are going to
Speaker 8: push back against migrant hotels.
Speaker 2: This is a massive deal.
Speaker 8: Well, illegal migrants are being housed all across the country
Speaker 8: in hotels and even in private rental accommodation, and so
Speaker 8: the local councils run by Reform will be pushing back
Speaker 8: against that. DEI. As you said, also the work from
Speaker 8: home philosophy, you know, the kind of three day, have
Speaker 8: a cup of tea, have a cup of cake, have
Speaker 8: a slice of cake, and then off you go, maybe
Speaker 8: a couple of hours.
Speaker 20: Here and there.
Speaker 8: That the work from home philosophy is going to be
Speaker 8: put into the bin as well. So that is the
Speaker 8: kind of policies that we're going to imprint at local level.
Speaker 8: Sure they'll be resisted at national level, but that's the
Speaker 8: tussle labor at the national level reform at the local level.
Speaker 8: Labor may have the constitutional power, but reform has the
Speaker 8: power of the people behind them.
Speaker 7: You know. The one thing I'm sort of concerned about
Speaker 7: with all this myron is that things had to get
Speaker 7: so bad in Great Britain for reform to start to
Speaker 7: see these sorts of victories. You've got a number of
Speaker 7: years left until you've got another general election, so you've
Speaker 7: got many more years of starmerism. Is the concern that
Speaker 7: it is only when things and this is where I'm
Speaker 7: sort of thinking about in an Australian context, only when
Speaker 7: things hit an absolute crisis point that voters start to say,
Speaker 7: you know what, we need to accept that the right
Speaker 7: is the ones to sort this out.
Speaker 20: You're absolutely right.
Speaker 8: Unfortunately, it's just the reality of the situation. People don't
Speaker 8: follow politics as much as perhaps we would like them too,
Speaker 8: and so as a result, they can't track the kind
Speaker 8: of policies that are being implemented and the outcomes that
Speaker 8: are happening on a day to day basis, and so
Speaker 8: when it is only when things get really, really, really
Speaker 8: bad that they feel it. When they walk out their
Speaker 8: door they see their towns and villages of being changed,
Speaker 8: the cost of living is completely being turned on its head,
Speaker 8: and their rights and everything else have been stripped away
Speaker 8: from them. That's when they start to realize how bad
Speaker 8: things get, and that's when they start to change course.
Speaker 8: But I always knew it would happen. The Labor government,
Speaker 8: in my opinion, is a vaccination. It's a vaccination against
Speaker 8: mass migration, it's a vaccination against net zero, it's a
Speaker 8: vaccination against identity politics and high tax, highly regulated economy.
Speaker 8: Sometimes we need to go through these dark times to
Speaker 8: understand what the right course of action is. And you're
Speaker 8: absolutely right. It might be happening in Australia, it's certainly
Speaker 8: happening in the UK. But I would say when the
Speaker 8: local elections, the British government understand what the brand of
Speaker 8: reform stands for, they get that it stands below immigration,
Speaker 8: against net zero, identity politics and so on, and as
Speaker 8: a result of that, Kirs Darmer is going to have
Speaker 8: to change course. So by voting reform, he is compelled
Speaker 8: if the pressure is on that he's going to have
Speaker 8: to somehow move away from the left and tack to
Speaker 8: the right somewhat.
Speaker 2: Myron central Nathan always great to get your insights and
Speaker 2: great to chat to you.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for staying up.
Speaker 2: That's so absolutely brilliant and you're absolutely right. If a
Speaker 2: political party, particularly the right, stands for something they win.
Speaker 2: That's Myron central Nathan there in Britain. I hope the
Speaker 2: lives are listening after the break James's donkey vote, can
Speaker 2: I tick.
Speaker 7: Hello? You're watching out Siders with your hosts reader vote one,
Speaker 7: panihy and rowan democracy dean and of course James Mustard
Speaker 7: on that democracy sausage Pleasemorrow And I got to say
Speaker 7: that even if you are not thrilled with the results
Speaker 7: of the election, please be grateful Australians that we still
Speaker 7: live in a functioning democracy and not some banana republic
Speaker 7: like Germany, where parties, if they attract too much support
Speaker 7: for things like I don't know, cutting immigration, become branded
Speaker 7: far right and put under surveillance by their government. At
Speaker 7: the same time, though, it is still a bit disappointing
Speaker 7: here in Australia that our conservatives don't speak with the
Speaker 7: same clarity as people in the Trump administration, people like
Speaker 7: Stephen Miller, a senior advisor to the President who is
Speaker 7: said to be a front runner for the role of
Speaker 7: National Security Advisor after Mike Waltz was pumpted from the
Speaker 7: job over that whole little business with the signal chat.
Speaker 7: I wanted to introduce you to Miller because I think
Speaker 7: he's important for Australians to see what this guy is
Speaker 7: all about and how he is absolutely all in on
Speaker 7: the America first and mass deportations of illegals. Absolutely get
Speaker 7: a schedule schooling the press on their hypocrisy in covering immigration.
Speaker 7: There's a lesson here. Have a look at this.
Speaker 20: Most of your papers never cover her story. When it
Speaker 20: happened to the extent that you covered it at all,
Speaker 20: it was because President Trump forced you to cover it
Speaker 20: by highlighting it repeatedly, over and over again. He had
Speaker 20: to shame you into covering it. And each and every
Speaker 20: one of you decides over and over again with these
Speaker 20: mster teen terrorists to the extent that you at the
Speaker 20: financial means to do so. You all choose to live
Speaker 20: in condos or homes or houses as far away from
Speaker 20: these kinds of gang bangers as you possibly can. If
Speaker 20: I offered any one of you a rent free home
Speaker 20: with no taxes to pay in any of these gang
Speaker 20: neighborhoods and I said, your neighbors are mster ting terrorists
Speaker 20: or Mexican mafia or Sineloa cartel or trained Aragua. I
Speaker 20: couldn't pay you to live there, But yet you, with
Speaker 20: your coverage, are trying to force innocent Americans to have
Speaker 20: these people as their neighbors and that one day their
Speaker 20: daughter may be abducted from their home and raped and murdered.
Speaker 20: So you're not going to get an ounce of sympathy
Speaker 20: from this administration or President Trump for the terrorists who've
Speaker 20: invaded our homes in our country.
Speaker 7: How good is that guy? And I mean, seriously, can
Speaker 7: you imagine anyone in Australia speaking to the press gallery
Speaker 7: like that? But I want to give you more because
Speaker 7: here he is blowing up a reporter over the issue
Speaker 7: of whether or not illegal aliens brought in by Joe
Speaker 7: Biden should be allowed to stay in the country at all.
Speaker 21: Is it the best use of the administration's resources to
Speaker 21: going after moms of young kids? Basically, do you yourself have
Speaker 21: an opinion on the subject.
Speaker 13: I'm more interested in yours.
Speaker 21: Well, what percentage of the Let's just pick an even
Speaker 21: number of say ten million illegal aliens. Let's say that
Speaker 21: Biden released. I think it's close to the twenty. Let's
Speaker 21: say he released ten million thegal aliens into the country
Speaker 21: over the last four years.
Speaker 20: Four percentage do you think we should let's stay here
Speaker 20: of those ten millions. I'm not trying to do a
Speaker 20: game show if you think that's the best use of
Speaker 20: a whole lot of the deeds?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 21: Is it your view that if a Democrat president releases
Speaker 21: ten to fifteen twenty million legals into the country, they
Speaker 21: all then should get to stay forever and for all
Speaker 21: of life.
Speaker 13: Stephen, I don't have a view about what Democratic presidents do.
Speaker 20: I'm asking what the Republican president you know, or how
Speaker 20: it wants.
Speaker 21: So you don't want to answer the question because you
Speaker 21: know the answer is obviously.
Speaker 7: I've got even more Steven Miller, A look at this.
Speaker 21: All those individuals, by law, have no right to be
Speaker 21: here and must be sent home. None of the people
Speaker 21: that Biden let in have a legitimate asylum claim, have
Speaker 21: a legitimate claim to relief, have any right or basis
Speaker 21: to be.
Speaker 1: Inside the United States. And now we see a move by.
Speaker 21: The media just say that some subset of the ten
Speaker 21: to fifteen twenty million legals that Biden let in who,
Speaker 21: knowing they're here illegally.
Speaker 1: Choose to stay here, choose to have children.
Speaker 13: So then we should take the view, Oh, you beat.
Speaker 21: The system, you trespass in our country, you failed to leave,
Speaker 21: you failed to comply with our laws, and now you've
Speaker 21: had a child, and now what you get amnesty for life?
Speaker 21: And what we should ask what a laid off worker
Speaker 21: in Ohio, Io to now pay for welfare for your
Speaker 21: entire life.
Speaker 7: Stephen Miller is also furious about people like Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker, who,
Speaker 7: in a fiery speech last week, called for mass uprisings
Speaker 7: against Republicans. Here's how Miller responded to that little idea.
Speaker 21: Well, what I would say is that his comments in
Speaker 21: nothing else could they could be construed as inciting violence.
Speaker 21: So President Trump survived Hue assassination attempts against his life.
Speaker 21: Of course, there's been many more credible threats against President
Speaker 21: Trump and his family and associates. We've, of course seen
Speaker 21: the spate of left wing domestic terrorism all across.
Speaker 1: This country by.
Speaker 21: The destruction of property sits directly adjacent to the to
Speaker 21: attacks on humans and physical attacks. So there was once
Speaker 21: you tolerate and once you allow for attacks of property,
Speaker 21: you're just a step away for people throwing multi cocktails
Speaker 21: into people's voltop cocos and people's homes.
Speaker 7: Well, he's absolutely right, and that was just an outstanding
Speaker 7: performance by one of the stars of the Trump administration,
Speaker 7: who every day goes out and delivers an absolute banging
Speaker 7: masterclass in dealing with the left wing mainstream media. Now,
Speaker 7: I reckon he'd be a great national security advisor, but
Speaker 7: apparently there are rumors in Washington Miller doesn't want to
Speaker 7: take the job if it means he has to spend
Speaker 7: less time deporting illegal aliens. My god that anyway, take
Speaker 7: notes Australian liberals as you lick your wounds, because this
Speaker 7: is how it's done. And by the way, just one
Speaker 7: more thing, speaking of the mainstream media, check out what
Speaker 7: happened when CNN's Van Jones checked in with three black
Speaker 7: Trump voters to see if they would vote for Trump again.
Speaker 7: Guess what, I'm not sure he was expecting these answers.
Speaker 6: If you had to do it all over again, would
Speaker 6: you vote for Donald Trump again or not?
Speaker 12: Yes?
Speaker 5: I would now in the future.
Speaker 3: I am not a die hard Democrat or a diehard Republican.
Speaker 13: If there were a Democratic.
Speaker 22: Candidate who was more aligned for me than I would
Speaker 22: vote demmograntic.
Speaker 1: If you go back in time, would you vote for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump?
Speaker 13: Yes or no? Yes, I think I might know the
Speaker 13: answer on the same.
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: If you had to do it all over again, would
Speaker 1: you vote for Donald Trump?
Speaker 16: Yes or no?
Speaker 13: One thousand percent?
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Yes.
Speaker 7: You see, guys, it's really not hard. You stand for something.
Speaker 7: You don't have to covery the Trump playbook, but you
Speaker 7: do have to stand for something, and guess what you
Speaker 7: win their loyalty and support. Again, it's not that hard,
Speaker 7: or at least it shouldn't be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm slip James, And look, that's the point Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is. We've had one hundred days, which has been
Speaker 2: pretty amazing, and everybody go, oh, we've got a recession
Speaker 2: coming in all the rest of it. Here's how Donald
Speaker 2: Trump handled questions about a recession have listened.
Speaker 23: Some people on Wall Street have expressed concerns that the
Speaker 23: possibility of a recession is increasing, And I want to
Speaker 23: know what you think about that. Are you comfortable with
Speaker 23: the country potentially dipping into a recession for a period
Speaker 23: of time? If you are able to achieve your long
Speaker 23: term goals.
Speaker 9: Well, you know, you say, some people on Wall Street say, well,
Speaker 9: I like to tell you something else.
Speaker 7: Some people on Wall Street.
Speaker 9: Say that we're going to have the greatest economy in history.
Speaker 7: Why don't you talk about them? Because some people on
Speaker 7: Wall Street say this.
Speaker 5: Is That's what I'm getting at. That's what I'm getting at.
Speaker 9: Though there are many people on Wall Street say this
Speaker 9: is going to be the greatest windfall ever happened.
Speaker 2: And James and Rieder, this is the point that James
Speaker 2: is making earlier about always stating your positions, stating it's
Speaker 2: simply believing what you saying and stating it again and
Speaker 2: again in simple phrases that people can understand, rather than
Speaker 2: is equivocating. Oh, we're going to kind of do kind
Speaker 2: of immigration. It's going to be twenty five percent of
Speaker 2: kind of cut feel over a little bit, and then
Speaker 2: we wind, and then we wind have a taxed cop
Speaker 2: but we want to tax I.
Speaker 7: Mean seriously, Well, yeah, I mean, look, there was again
Speaker 7: we had had the whole question of even where were
Speaker 7: the policies? And you know, we kept asking, We kept
Speaker 7: asking on this show, we kept asking in our columns
Speaker 7: and elsewhere. Where are the policies, Where are the policies?
Speaker 7: Where are the policies? And you know, they dripped them
Speaker 7: out one after another and the whole thing was a mess.
Speaker 7: But you know what I think is also going to
Speaker 7: happen here is we're going to start to see a
Speaker 7: lot of recriminations coming out from within the Liberal parties.
Speaker 7: And I think it's going to start to happen come
Speaker 7: out in New South Wales particularly, and around the moderates
Speaker 7: in New South Wales. There are going to be well,
Speaker 7: you know, sabotage, of sabotaged advis of leaking, of all
Speaker 7: sorts of things, and it's going to make the Liberals,
Speaker 7: I think, look really really bad, but hopefully it helps
Speaker 7: them excit the people in the party who would rather
Speaker 7: fight one another for the spoils of defeat rather than
Speaker 7: actually go and win office.
Speaker 2: All the spoils of renewables. That's where I think the
Speaker 2: secret of this lies.
Speaker 1: But that's just me anyway.
Speaker 6: Well, the fear again is that all the wrong people
Speaker 6: are going to be exited out of the party. Sorry,
Speaker 6: all the right people are going to be exited out
Speaker 6: of the party, and all the people who are behind
Speaker 6: this Mayhem are going to have even more power because
Speaker 6: that's happened elsewhere in the country. When these sort of
Speaker 6: losses are recorded, it's going to be critical. I think
Speaker 6: the biggest decision is to be who's going to be
Speaker 6: the leader. I think that is going to be setting
Speaker 6: the narrative, and if they get that wrong, then everything
Speaker 6: in the back office is going to follow, I think,
Speaker 6: and I think that is going to be one where
Speaker 6: they can't botch it. You botch the election badly, don't
Speaker 6: botch this. You need to pick the right leader. And
Speaker 6: I fear that if they look at it as a
Speaker 6: two step process, you have a leader for those terrible
Speaker 6: first twelve months and then we'll get a.
Speaker 13: New while.
Speaker 2: Has to espouse the values that they want to take
Speaker 2: to the election.
Speaker 1: We have to have that. I just want to play
Speaker 1: you just on Trump.
Speaker 2: I just want to play another clip, because defense should
Speaker 2: have been a key winner for the coalition on this.
Speaker 2: They up there spending which was great, and then of course,
Speaker 2: oh no, there's nothing to do with Donald Trump. But
Speaker 2: they up there spending as Trump and asked, so why
Speaker 2: they didn't embrace Trump is madness to me. But anyway,
Speaker 2: I listened to Donald Trump, or rather Pete Haig said
Speaker 2: about how recruiting for not only the armed forces, but
Speaker 2: all those essential services, police, fire and so on have
Speaker 2: been soaring and since Trump got elected have a little.
Speaker 1: Like so many things.
Speaker 2: President, you inherited a demoralized military that couldn't recruit.
Speaker 13: That was perceived this week.
Speaker 2: After what happened in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
Speaker 7: Because of Joe Biden, and what we've seen since your.
Speaker 11: Election and the inauguration has been nothing short of a
Speaker 11: recruiting renaissance.
Speaker 20: Decades it has been game since we've seen this kind
Speaker 20: of recruiting in the.
Speaker 7: Army, the Navy, the Marine Corps, of the Air Force.
Speaker 11: The men and women of America want to join the
Speaker 11: United States military led by President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: And the police, by the way, and fire. I always
Speaker 2: mentioned the.
Speaker 9: Fire, but the police and fire.
Speaker 11: But the police and fire likewise are I mean, they.
Speaker 7: Have waiting lists now and six months ago was a disaster.
Speaker 2: And Australia needs to be strong and part of defense
Speaker 2: is having people wanting to join your armed forces, people
Speaker 2: wanting to join your police forces and fiber guys.
Speaker 7: And here we don't even know if young people want
Speaker 7: to fight for the country if there was a problem.
Speaker 6: But you know, you know, James, because we did some
Speaker 6: polling on yeah, and sadly the majority don't want to fight.
Speaker 5: And who can blame them?
Speaker 2: And why is that? It's because a left wing culture
Speaker 2: nonsense has been rammed down their throats and schools about
Speaker 2: you're all going to die because of climate change, you know,
Speaker 2: as an evil country, stolen land, let's give it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hateful, hateful.
Speaker 2: Self loathing stuff that has run down the next three years.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I pity the kids in school and yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's gonna.
Speaker 7: Get with the glimmer of hope in this here is that,
Speaker 7: you know, as Margaret Thatcher, our great hero of this program,
Speaker 7: you know who used to play the clips of all
Speaker 7: the time in the early days of the program. She
Speaker 7: had a great saying and she said, the facts of
Speaker 7: life are conservative, right. Yes, Now, the fact that the
Speaker 7: so called Conservative party screwed up all of its policies
Speaker 7: around this doesn't change the fact that the fundamentals are
Speaker 7: there for people. You know, housing, The reason why we
Speaker 7: talk about a housing crisis all the time is fundamentally
Speaker 7: because young people want the same thing that everybody always wants,
Speaker 7: a home and a home is rootiness to a community
Speaker 7: and all of the things that come with that, family
Speaker 7: and stability and capital. And the fact that the Liberals
Speaker 7: managed not to come up with a good housing policy
Speaker 7: and an incredible immigration policy undercuts that. Likewise with enterprise,
Speaker 7: you know, on two issues, taxes and the cost of living,
Speaker 7: particularly taxes our own Pole Newspaul found that voters thought
Speaker 7: labor had more credible plans to deal with So people
Speaker 7: actually want lower taxes and people want praises to be
Speaker 7: lower shop But the problem is that, you know, the
Speaker 7: conservative solutions who do have the better solutions to these
Speaker 7: these they allowed themselves to get completely out of.
Speaker 6: Something that's been talked about a lot again by the
Speaker 6: pundits and you're going to hear it for weeks to come,
Speaker 6: is that the Liberals need to go left because the
Speaker 6: demographic changes and the young voters who have so overwhelmingly
Speaker 6: left now again, look at other countries that are like
Speaker 6: us for an example. You can win back or you
Speaker 6: can win left young voters, but you have to give
Speaker 6: them something to back. You have to actually give them
Speaker 6: policies that speak to them that aren't necessarily hard left
Speaker 6: neo Marxist policies. But actually policies that will make their
Speaker 6: lives better. And we've seen that. Polling in the US
Speaker 6: is very clear that Trump has great strength with young voters. Yep,
Speaker 6: and there is no reason why we can't replicate that here.
Speaker 6: The issues that young voters are viewed to the right
Speaker 6: in the US are identical here.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 6: If you don't recognize that or don't recognize that opportunity,
Speaker 6: but you need to do the work. You can't just
Speaker 6: say a couple of these policy talking points four weeks
Speaker 6: before election, expect to get back in UNI.
Speaker 7: You got a liver and breathe it.
Speaker 2: And there are several people I've mentioned within the Liberal
Speaker 2: Party and the National Party who do have those qualities.
Speaker 1: After the break, Canbra Clown Show.
Speaker 2: Roll up, Roll up, ladies and gentlemen, step right this way. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's the Canberra Clown Show back by popular demand for
Speaker 2: another sellout three year run with all your favorites. We'll
Speaker 2: have Penny Wise sorry, Pennywong the Clown returning with her
Speaker 2: magnificent voice.
Speaker 12: Two points zero. We've got Bobo Bowen backed from his
Speaker 12: cave in the Nullabore with his magic Blackout starting this summer.
Speaker 12: And yes, of course Katie the clown will be spending
Speaker 12: your money like it's going out of fashion, which indeed
Speaker 12: it soon will be. And of course Jimbo the clown
Speaker 12: who can conjure up unrealized tax gains on your super
Speaker 12: out of thin air. Yes, it's the Candra Clown Show
Speaker 12: back in town under the Burley Griffin Big Top. Meanwhile,
Speaker 12: here's a few highlights from the traveling troop of circus
Speaker 12: acts that have been entertaining us for the past few
Speaker 12: weeks up and down the country. Who can forget such
Speaker 12: classic moments as this improvised act from a petty bureaucrat
Speaker 12: who clearly doesn't understand the meaning of the term democracy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have shut them down down.
Speaker 3: I'm just anybody, you know, even letting me speak, You
Speaker 3: interrupting me whenever I speak.
Speaker 5: I'm asking you.
Speaker 3: I've had a few people who are quite upset. I
Speaker 3: just speak to my about what you're speaking to them?
Speaker 7: What about speaking about.
Speaker 5: About late term abortions?
Speaker 4: Okay, you don't like that, it's not my It's a
Speaker 4: horrible thing, though, and that's why I want to stop it.
Speaker 3: Sorry, I want to speak to my supervisors because I've
Speaker 3: had some complaints. Okay, if I were to ask you,
Speaker 3: if you would like to speak to everybody that your policies,
Speaker 3: you're more than welcome to. But just that point before now,
Speaker 3: if I can please ask, can I can I else
Speaker 3: every other of you?
Speaker 5: I'm not to mention abortion just for now.
Speaker 3: I've had some complaints and I just want to run
Speaker 3: it up the change.
Speaker 24: Okay, you wouldn't mind.
Speaker 2: Thank you? What an absolute disgrace trying desperately hard to
Speaker 2: be as equally entertaining was our favorite clown, doctor Monique Ryan,
Speaker 2: refusing to answer even a simple question.
Speaker 17: Monique as an independent, why should people vote for you
Speaker 17: when you mostly vote with the Greens?
Speaker 25: Anyways, came to.
Speaker 7: Have a chat.
Speaker 14: Perhaps not right now, really quite there's cars coming through
Speaker 14: and there's voters here.
Speaker 24: It's not what you're doing is not very.
Speaker 1: Safe, oh Harvey, what you're doing is not very safe.
Speaker 2: But why I have one dope eteal doctor when you're
Speaker 2: going to have two? This one from Sydney's Northern Beaches.
Speaker 2: A doctor remember who diagnosed a tragic recent tragic death
Speaker 2: has been caused.
Speaker 1: By coomer change. You can't make this stuff up here.
Speaker 2: She has been chastised correctly by two GB's ben Fordham
Speaker 2: for the distress she caused to the family of the
Speaker 2: young man.
Speaker 15: We're about to be joined by the t LMP Sophie Scomps.
Speaker 15: I think she should be apologizing to the family of
Speaker 15: the NRL player Keith Titmus. They are angry that she
Speaker 15: has wrongly linked his death to climate change.
Speaker 2: It is very unfortunate that you know, I've upset the family.
Speaker 2: But it's all about even healthy young people.
Speaker 7: Our bodies are not adapted to dealing with umsing.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Not to be outdone in the creepiness stakes was this
Speaker 2: troop of half wits and freaks who had clearly escaped
Speaker 2: from some lunatic asylum in the backstreets of Munich circa
Speaker 2: nineteen thirty nine.
Speaker 13: Christians, And of a whole loss. We can't all of it.
Speaker 13: What a disgrace.
Speaker 2: And every circus has its bumbling ignoramus clown. Here's a
Speaker 2: green clown from Melbourne.
Speaker 17: Many of the arguments that I made against Israel can
Speaker 17: be made about Australia.
Speaker 15: Do you agree?
Speaker 1: Are you on stolen land?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 17: We are on stolenly, undoubtedly?
Speaker 2: And did we colonize?
Speaker 24: We did, undoubtedly.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he'd give his house back for his
Speaker 2: stolen land. But the standout performance of the past five
Speaker 2: weeks has to go to her old favorite, The Scariest
Speaker 2: Clown under the Burly Griffin, Big Top Penny Wise, sorry,
Speaker 2: Penny Wong the Clown. Here she is doing her favorite
Speaker 2: slapstick act, spilling the beans.
Speaker 24: Look, I think we'll look back on it in ten
Speaker 24: years time and it'll be like marriage equality, don't you reckon?
Speaker 24: Like I was just say marriage equality, which took us
Speaker 24: such a bloody fight to get that done, and I thought,
Speaker 24: all this fuss, it'll become something to be like people go,
Speaker 24: do we have an argument about that? They weren't even
Speaker 24: like kids today or any even adults today. Really kind
Speaker 24: of clock that it used to be an issue.
Speaker 1: Oh the arrogance.
Speaker 2: Looks like The Voice Circus will be returning for a
Speaker 2: second sellout season under Albozo the Clown. Here he is
Speaker 2: trying to speak Chinese. Too young to vote, but.
Speaker 7: Old enough to school the Prime Minister.
Speaker 10: Nice to make you in Chinese.
Speaker 2: Chinese, but when he actually meets a Chinese woman, he
Speaker 2: couldn't wait to be rid of her.
Speaker 16: Are you kissing your boss?
Speaker 22: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah yes indeed, the circus is well and truly back
Speaker 2: in town.
Speaker 1: What would Bob Dylan say? And the only sound that's left.
Speaker 25: After the ambulances go, it's Cindy Ella sweeping upon desoltly
Speaker 25: shung rule.
Speaker 5: That was the most depressing post music.
Speaker 6: Everyd Okay, can we have some frivolity.
Speaker 1: Hyper balls back?
Speaker 6: Yes, Kamala's back, and we got a word salad this
Speaker 6: time about elephants.
Speaker 22: In fact, please allow me, friends to digress for a moment. Okay,
Speaker 22: it's kind of dark in here when I'm asked for
Speaker 22: show of hands. Who saw that video from a couple
Speaker 22: of weeks ago, the one of the elephants at the
Speaker 22: San Diego Zoo during the earthquake.
Speaker 5: Google it if you've not seen it. So that scene
Speaker 5: has been on my mind.
Speaker 22: Everybody's asking me what you've been thinking about these days?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, what can you say?
Speaker 6: White House Press Secretary Caroline Levata had this to say.
Speaker 2: Thank you everyone.
Speaker 1: Just to add on the Kamala Harris point.
Speaker 5: I think I speak for everyone at the White House.
Speaker 2: We encourage Kamala Harris.
Speaker 5: To continue going out and speaking.
Speaker 6: Do speaking engagements you'll hear from the President at eleven o'clock. Yes,
Speaker 6: please talk more, because you guess what, She's still the
Speaker 6: number one candidate and all the polling they do, she's
Speaker 6: still the one who most Democrat voters will deceive money.
Speaker 7: And you know, the other interesting thing is that when
Speaker 7: CNN asked this week they said, well, who do you
Speaker 7: think would be doing a better job as president? More
Speaker 7: people are saying Donald Trump for doing a better job.
Speaker 7: Kamal Harrison exactly exactly along the lines of what it
Speaker 7: was at election nights. So everybody's just locked in, and
Speaker 7: all the Trump people are completely locked in, no matter
Speaker 7: the best efforts of the media to try and tear
Speaker 7: down Oh no, this to that, and then they are're
Speaker 7: gonna have a recession. It's like, there's this.
Speaker 6: Ridiculous notion of Trump's underwater in the polls. One, those
Speaker 6: polls have been wrong about him for eight years, as
Speaker 6: they were just back in November.
Speaker 5: Remember that they were supposed to lose.
Speaker 7: So yeah, yeah, yeah, give me a break.
Speaker 6: But two, even if you trust those polls, the Democrats
Speaker 6: are polling way lower.
Speaker 7: Than There was a great moment when Chuck Schumer tried
Speaker 7: to go on about how horrible Donald Trump was doing
Speaker 7: in the polls, and a reporter said, wasn't there just
Speaker 7: a poll this week that said you were like at
Speaker 7: seventeen percent approval? And Chuck Schuber literally said, well, you know,
Speaker 7: polls come and go.
Speaker 2: Speaking of the White House, Michelle Obama, apparently it was
Speaker 2: very tough being Michelle Obama. She had to pay for
Speaker 2: her own food.
Speaker 6: This is the most miserable woman in America, over privileged,
Speaker 6: just has everything that you could want. But yet every
Speaker 6: time you hear respects. She's got her own podcast. Now
Speaker 6: no one listens to it, but she has her own podcast.
Speaker 6: She's doing a lot of interviews and every word is
Speaker 6: just woe is me? How hard is my life?
Speaker 5: It is depressing stuff just to listen to have it?
Speaker 26: Got an example, please, it's expensive to live in the
Speaker 26: White House. Many people don't know. I mean much is
Speaker 26: not covered. You're paying for every food, every bit of
Speaker 26: food that you eat. You're not paying for housing and
Speaker 26: the staff in it, but everything, even travel if you're
Speaker 26: not traveling with the president. If your kids are coming
Speaker 26: on a bright Star which is the first Lady's plane,
Speaker 26: we had to pay for their travel to be on
Speaker 26: the plane.
Speaker 6: When I have to pay for the kids to come
Speaker 6: on my private plane that the taxpayer is paying for.
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 5: And then I have to feed them? What next?
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 7: She s sorry, credible, sorry, This is the thing. This
Speaker 7: just shows how the presidency has become this huge grift
Speaker 7: because the Obama's net worth I just checked it somewhere
Speaker 7: around seventy million dollars. So probably all of these people
Speaker 7: they came into the White House with nothing, nothing. How
Speaker 7: does that work? This is the thing.
Speaker 6: Donald Trump's the only politician whose net worth has gone backwards.
Speaker 7: There we go.
Speaker 1: That's it for outsiders this week.
Speaker 2: We'll see you all during the week, plus of course world.
Speaker 2: According to Rowan Dean Friday at seven, then you've got
Speaker 2: James at eight and Recha at nine. Fridays, A great night,
Speaker 2: and we'll see you next Sunday. For Outsiders