WEBVTT - Outsiders | 4 May 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:11.720 It's outside. 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.680 Good morning, and welcome to Outsiders the show that is 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.200 to net zero madness and woke identity politics on steroids, 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.799 what the Coalition was not to net zero madness and 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:29.319 work identity politics on steroids, and what the bird life 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:31.520 of Couyong is to doctor Monique Ryan. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.720 Just very briefly, if we can just ask how you 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.680 are We've. 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:39.360 Got I don't know was that bird? 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:42.120 I hope that wasn't a bird. I don't think it 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.559 was a bird. But it didn't get Did it get you? 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:45.959 It did? Well? 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:47.240 Something will say. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:49.000 Coming out of the throat. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.440 Oh, maybe it was simply a matter of the local 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:57.440 cooko bars having better taste in music than Monique's loyal songbirds. 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:15.800 Meanwhile, here's how one clever young man took on Green's leader, 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.080 Adam Band. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.040 I'm Zach and this is Adam Isoe Happy dadday, Zoey. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.960 Let's say together, I've demonized the Jewish community for my 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:31.200 own political gain. And that is a quick word of 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:34.680 advice for the for the Liberal Party. He's going to 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:36.039 mix them up with the Libor Party. 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:39.400 If you want to change the world, you have to 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.720 have the courage to be an outsider. In other words, 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.680 you have to take certain risks and do things a 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.880 little bit differently. Otherwise, if that weren't the case, everybody 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.760 would be successful. It helps when you know that borders 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:55.960 are not racist, speech is not violence, America is good, 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:00.840 Terrorists are bad, men can never become women, police are 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:03.960 not criminals, and criminals are not victims. 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:07.720 It's so easy when you know what you stand for. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:15.560 Now let's grab the latterst outsiders, News, Anything Happening, Reader 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:16.200 and chains and the. 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:20.560 Paddington. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.520 You know what I hate to say. 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.560 I told you so, We told you so. But this 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.639 is what we've been talking about on this. 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:29.240 Prot nine months, for. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:33.720 Nine months, particularly though this year twenty twenty five we 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.960 were just remarked week in week out about how the 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:42.880 coalition had stored none of that voice momentum had carried through. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.320 That's lost their way. And once that election was called, 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.640 I was expecting just a barrage of activity and policy 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:55.720 and differentiation from labor. We never got it on key issues, 0:02:55.919 --> 0:03:01.800 energy policy, population policy, all the race craziness that was 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.840 inflicted on this country and continues to be inflicted despite 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:08.359 the people having their say eighteen months ago. And if 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.800 you stand for nothing, this is what happens. Conservatives only 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:17.359 win from a position of strength and clear policy differentiation. 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.119 We didn't have it. They refuse to walk away from 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:23.240 that zero. They refused to say we're going to slash 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:27.600 immigration after we've had record numbers come through. We are 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.200 in a cost of living crisis, we've had our living 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:35.080 standards plummet. And a government has won in a landslide, exactly. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.920 And if you've just tuned in or you only watch 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:41.240 outside ers, quite sensibly, yes, yes, the Labour Party has 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:45.360 been returned in a landslide, apparently, and congratulations to Anthony 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.400 Alberanezi for running that campaign. Peter Dutton has lost his 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:53.720 own seat and obviously the Liberals have lost the election badly. 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:59.080 Here's just before we go to more commentary. Here's Albanesi 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.560 winning his moment of his winning speech. 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:11.320 My fellow Australians, serving as your Prime Minister is the 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:20.000 greatest honor of my life. And it is with a 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:25.839 deep sense of humility and a profound sense of responsibility 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.840 that the first thing that I do tonight is to 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.159 say thank you to the people of Australia for the 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:38.280 chance to continue to serve the best nation on earth. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.039 That was Alban, Anthony Alban Prime Minister for the next 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:48.000 three years, and he's thinking much longer than that. And 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.839 here's Peter Dutton, you know, acknowledging he was beaten. 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.159 We've been defined by our opponents in this election, which 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.160 is not the true story of who we are. But 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:02.560 we'll rebuild from here. We'll do because we know our values, 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:06.360 we know our beliefs, and we will always stick to them. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.599 I want to say thank you to the Australian people 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:11.840 for the faith they've placed in me and thank them 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.760 for the great honor of having been the Member for 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.640 Dixon and the leader of Opposition. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:22.279 Thank you very much, thank you, goodbye. Peter Dutton. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.200 Well, James, what did you think of that? I mean, 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.800 look that Peter Dutton speech there. He did give a 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:32.040 very gracious defeat speech, concession speech. However, that was once 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.080 again an example of something that we saw through this 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.600 entire campaign, and that is if you're explaining your losing. 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:41.760 And Peter Dutton ran and we were very critical of 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:44.400 him on this show for weeks and weeks and months 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:47.159 and months and months about this campaign that he ran 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:51.640 that was simultaneously o fish and flat footed and unable 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:55.240 to respond to all of the lies that labor let 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.280 lie after lie after lie after lie, you know, from 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.760 the six hundred billion dollars to the take away your 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.480 medicare to everything else in between. No way to respond 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.200 to that. And yet despite being completely offish and flat 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.640 footed in campaign mode when they were talking about themselves, 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:17.000 they also managed to do Olympic level backflips at every 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.279 stage of the campaign. And I'm talking about they started 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.400 out with the backflip on the work from home policy, 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:25.799 which was an ill advised thing to throw out there 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.159 without having done any sort of thought about it too. 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.800 You know, even seventy two hours before the polls opened 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.560 up on election day, Peter Dutt was out there saying, oh, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.479 you know, look, may I've talked about changing the school curriculum, 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.120 which it totally woke. But no, no, no, we have 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:44.600 no changes plan to the school curriculum. This was an 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.520 exact example of what happens when a party, and we 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.680 have spoken about this for years. The problem with the 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.480 Liberal Party has of losing its way and it has 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.640 become this is what happens when you try to be 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:59.360 all things to all people. You forget your core constituency, 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:03.479 You forget get your core values. They've forgotten their values. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.599 They need to go back and they deserve time in 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.680 the wilderness. They need to go back. Read their Robert 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:13.240 Menzie speeches, go back, figure out who they are that 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.600 they're for aspiracial Australia, because what's coming down the Piking 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.560 Road and read it, Anthony ALBINIZI is now in a 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:22.800 position to change permanently or for a long time, the 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:27.880 political settlement in this country, meaning that everybody becomes dependent 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.840 on the government in one way or another. Once that 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.080 gets set in concrete, it is very hard to undo. 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.120 Until we hit a crisis. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:38.920 We are going to get the Victoriification of Australia. They're 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:43.360 going to say what's happened in Victoria nationally and the 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.400 Coalition bears a great deal of the blame because, as 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:50.040 James just explained, they have tried to be all things 0:07:50.080 --> 0:07:53.800 to all people that haven't been principled in actually providing 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:58.000 the Australian people with a choice at a clear choice. 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.280 And this is what's going to happen. 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:01.720 It really is. 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:07.640 Bewildering the strategy that they employed. I struggle to understand. 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:11.320 I think maybe they thought we need to appeal to 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.160 those inner city electorates to try to win back those 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:17.600 till seats, and in their efforts to do that, they 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.760 not only lost their principles, but also lost sight of 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.119 what is going to be their new base, which isn't 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:27.200 those affluent inner city seats. That's never going to be 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.880 the liberal base going forward. This is a thing that's 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.760 bigger than Australia. This is a trend of phenomenon that 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.360 is evident in the UK. It's evident in the US. 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:41.720 The more affluent are leaning increasingly left and the working class, 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:45.000 middle class, aspirational classes are leaning right. 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:45.520 Now. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:49.160 You either embrace that and utilize it, or you fight 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.240 against it, which the coalition in Australia should to be 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:55.560 doing and to their detriment, as we've just seen. I mean, 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.720 what did they give the electorate, What reason do they 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:01.840 give the electra to throw out a first term government? 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.120 Well, look, I mean, you know, we will talk about 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:08.480 the various aspirants to lead this shell of a coalition 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.120 here that we have, but I really do think that 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.280 one of the moments when I think I knew that 0:09:13.360 --> 0:09:16.440 this whole thing was over for them was you know, 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.760 eight ten, twelve weeks ago, and right here an hour 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.280 before we went to air Angus Taylor came on too 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.720 Andrew Clenell's program and said, oh, well, you know medicare 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.080 is they've just offered eight point five billion dollars labor 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.360 for Medicare, so we'll just match that and go up 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:33.800 to nine. And that's when and that was when, you know, 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.400 the spendathon was on. That's when they just decided they 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.280 weren't going to do anything about fiscal discipline. And the 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:42.000 insane thing about this is we're in a moment here 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.960 when you've got all these crisises of you know, the economy, inflation, 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:51.359 deficit defense, and yet they were not able to successfully 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.520 differentiate themselves. And you know, you have to give people 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.200 a difference, and you have to let people know that 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.320 you believe in what you believe. All the back flips 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.120 did was make the coalition, made the Liberals in particular 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.079 look really shifty because it made it say, oh, well, 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.880 you don't like these policies, We've got others. And it 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.320 also made them look and this strategy what they do 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.320 the big after action review on this. They need to 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.640 have a huge look at this policy of we are 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:22.640 going to hold back all our policies till the very end, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.840 and we're not going to tell you what they are. Again, 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.679 it makes you look shifty. And remember what happened with defense. 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:32.160 Now defense, you know we have had Chinese vessels circumnavigating 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.760 the country doing live fire exercises. Defense is something that 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.679 Peter Dutton should have had a huge advantage of on 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:41.959 And what did they do. They held the defense policy 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.240 back to Anzac Day week, the week before the election. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.040 And you know what what happened, Well, other events conspired 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.480 to knock it off the front page. Pope Francis died 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.080 and nobody talked about it and there was no advantage 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:54.920 for the coalition to that. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.800 And then we had we had the massive blackouts in Spain, Portugal, 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.800 in France and net zero as a disaster. I'll just 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:06.040 pick up there. I knew James the moment. So a 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:07.839 year ago I was saying that Dutton would win in 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.560 a landslide and he should have done and he could 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:11.840 have done. And the reality is all you had to 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:15.480 do was take that sixty one percent of the Australian 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:19.559 population who voted no to the Voice, just nurture them, 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.439 look after them and carry them through to the election. 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.680 By tackling all those cultural war issues, whether it's transgenderism, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:28.920 whether it's climate, whether it's immigration, those issues were all 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.600 there to be had there. Let's not forget sixty five 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:34.640 percent of Australia did not vote for the Albanese government. 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.880 Our preferential system works the way it works, and that's 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:41.000 what we're stuck with. But that majority was still there, 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:45.480 That conservative traditional values of Australia majority is still there, 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.679 is still sitting there waiting to be picked up. And 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:53.720 the reality is the people of Australia, the conservative you know, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.680 sixty percent of Australia should be so angry with the 0:11:56.679 --> 0:12:00.360 cold issue, so angry with Peter Dutton, so angry with 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.400 those backroom boff in the sitting round, with their focus 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.800 groups and their pie charts and their their whiteboards. They 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:11.199 have completely betrayed us. You've completely betrayed us a year ago. 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.360 You had this election in the bag. From that point on, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.560 and we have been saying it week in, week out 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.000 on this show. We have advised you, We've given you advice. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.680 Our advice has been correct all along. We could spot 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.400 it where you were going wrong. We advised you, and 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.840 so did many other people. But you chose not to listen. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.160 You thought you knew better, and you've lost, and you've 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:35.400 been defeated soundly. Now, James just mentioned the moment he 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.680 knew that it was all over. The moment I knew 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:40.440 it was all over was when Peter Dutton, in the 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:43.440 greatest act of betrayal of this country that I've seen 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.480 since Turnbull and Morrison, refused to pull out of Paris. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.440 When Donald Trump was elected. Donald Trump was elected. From 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.839 that moment, America, the greatest economic powerhouse in the world, 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.120 had said no to net zero. It was behove and 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.560 beholden to Australia to say we have got to pull 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.880 back from this net zero because we're traying the working 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.880 people of this country. That was the moment you lost 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.720 it deservedly in my opinion, Rita Well, I think. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.680 You're right therein that they deserve to lose. If they won, 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:11.679 it would have been a little bit of a travesty. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.000 They would have won because they because of their opposition, 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:17.480 not because of the policies that were taking to the electorate, 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.320 and for the principal stand that were taking. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:21.880 Energy was enormous. 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:27.240 Energy is where that can differentiate so clearly, and it 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.000 touches everything. When you've got a cost of living crisis, 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.480 energy is an enormous part of that. When you've got 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.880 an inflation problem, energy is enormous part of that. So 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.840 it affects every household, every business, the manufacturing sector, jobs. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.720 And you could have taken this, made it a referendum 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:49.000 about labor. Is about green energy emission cuts, Where about cheap, 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:52.840 reliable energy, Where about the cheapest form of energy that 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.679 you can get? And that is it. Yeah, they had 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.960 the nuclear policy that were too scared to talk about it, 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.959 and that didn't kick into the twenty third. People want 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.240 to know what's going to happen in a month's time, 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.480 not in the twenty thirties, So that is a huge failing. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:11.040 It was a huge opportunity. Population was another one. Again, 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:14.800 something everybody cares about. Impacts so many areas of life, 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.559 whether you're talking about housing crisis, waiting, lists of hospitals, 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:23.440 traffic issues, cultural issues, all of this. You could have 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:27.480 again said, labor have brought in record numbers in the 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:31.920 last few years, We're going to slash immigration fifty percent, 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:36.360 maybe eighty percent, have a clear policy and say until 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.840 we get the housing crisis sorted, We're not going to 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:39.760 be bringing in a. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:46.240 Single person James, and stop letting groups like Universities Australia 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:50.800 and the property developers lobbes define what our population should be. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.040 The Overton window, that's the term that we use in 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.440 politics to describe, you know, the areas where it's allowed 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.040 to be talked about, what we're allowed to talk about. 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:01.320 That has shifted so far. On immigration, now you have 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.600 most people in most poles saying they want less or 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.480 substantially less immigration. Huge door for the colst to walk through. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.400 They kind of stuck their foot through for a bit, 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.240 but then they again the great problem with everything. But 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.840 there's the problem you read and wrote. You know, there's 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:19.480 a more fundamental thing than this. You know, we could 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.400 talk about all the different policies that they didn't you know, 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.040 land or come together with. You know, they just simply 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.560 didn't do the homework on all of these policies. They 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:33.520 did not do the work. And I was speaking to 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:37.840 liberal insiders weeks and months ago who said, we're really 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.040 in a lot of trouble because we didn't do the work. 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.000 They didn't do the stuff to prepare themselves for the 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:47.880 onslaught of labor lies that came through with every single policy, 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.720 they had no way to counter it. They were so 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.920 flat footed. Every time, you know, six hundred billion dollars, 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:55.520 they just laughed and kept lying. This is a time 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.280 when you're going up against a guy who has promised 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.680 to reduce your powerbills by two hundreds twenty five dollars, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.000 they've gone up by twelve hundred. How do you not 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:09.120 win against that? It is an act of stupendous political incompetence. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.240 And not doing the work, I think is at the 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.520 heart of this, because you can't just in the last 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.400 four weeks, even the last couple of months, come up 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.800 with these policy positions that you haven't done the work on. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.280 And they've spent a lot of time today and last 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:26.240 night throwing muther Donald Trump. But you know what Trump did. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:30.200 He worked those policies for four years. So he took 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:35.280 the American electorate from being majority opposed to mass deportations 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.000 deporting every illegal immigrant to now where it is a 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:42.440 wildly popular policy, not just deporting every criminal, but every 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.280 illegal immigrant to the country. That didn't happen overnight. That 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:50.080 happened because the particularly Donald Trump put the work in 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:54.840 for years prosecuting that case, saying why this is a 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.800 good policy, And we saw the Liberals finally do that 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.960 with the Voice. It took them ten months to come 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.080 your position with the Voice. They didn't have ten months 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.480 to mess around this time around with the election, and 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.000 maybe that was three. 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.639 Years to do that. 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:13.000 There's another point with the Voice, we saw them go 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:20.080 against the media y political class and then but this 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:21.440 time they were listening to them. 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.080 And my great fury is. 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.280 All the wrong lessons out of this loss. Instead of 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:29.639 actually saying we need to stand for something, we need 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.320 to be strong, we need to be actually a proper 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:36.040 center right alternative, they're going to veer out further left. 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:37.520 All the pot and that leads to me. 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.240 I'll be talking about it later, but I have to 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.359 ask the question. I'll be asking it at ten o'clock. 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.520 Is the Liberal Party fit for purpose? Is the broad 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:46.600 Church fit for purpose? I'll tell you about that at 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:49.720 ten o'clock. But let's reata's write James that all the 0:17:49.720 --> 0:17:52.639 wrong lessons are already being taken out of this you know, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:59.920 all that stuff, And the reality is they did not 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:03.359 fight to tear down this government, this labor government has 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.679 reached to it saying it is absolutely atrocious. They're going 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.000 to be taxing our unrealized super games. Now we're going 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.760 to have more of this renewables madness. This country is 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:16.360 going to go down the gurglar economically with Jimbo's ridiculous thing. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:20.280 And all those people in Australia who have been let 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.520 down by this Liberal Party so badly let down. The Nationals, 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.000 by the way, all held their seats, so there's a 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:29.080 lesson there, but so badly let down because they the 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:30.679 politicians all keep their seats and. 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:31.480 They all get their. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.800 Salaries forever and all of that stuff. But there are 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.320 hard working people in Australia that you, the Liberal Party, 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:41.400 have really really badly let down. I'm now questioning whether 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:42.600 you fit the purpose. 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:43.840 Well, you know, and it's funny that you say that, 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.639 because I've actually written in Today's Sunday telegraphing in the 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.520 Sunday News Corps tabloids that the Liberal Party is in 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:54.080 a real existential crisis. This is an existential crisis for 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.680 the Liberal Party. They do not know what they stand for, 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:58.920 they do not know who they represent, and they need 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:01.000 to work that out. But really, you said something before, 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.280 and I just wanted to pick up on this and 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.280 you talked about the media, and this was another part 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:11.520 of this here the liberals, Peter Dutton particularly seemed terrified 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.320 of the media, absolutely terrified. And this is something that 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.280 goes way way back to before when he was a 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:21.520 minister in coalition governments. You know, Peter Dutton spent the 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.200 last three years mostly doing softball interviews. He mostly did 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.320 things like Ray Hadley on two GB where he's going 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:30.520 to get a good run and instead of doing things 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:36.680 he was inviting here. But you know, this is there's thing. 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:38.440 So you know, and you talked about Trump before, well, 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.199 you know, one thing I was thinking about before was 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.879 how like somebody like jd Vance, the Vice president, loves 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:45.679 to go out and love to go out during the 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.880 campaign and do all of those really hard ball interviews 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.840 and really mix it up, mix it up with you know, 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:57.199 oppositional journalists hone their arguments. He honed arguments. Your arguments 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:00.880 get better when you argue them. This guy, the whole coalition, 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.480 they seemed scared of their policies, and people saise that 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.720 they said this got this sort of central that they thought, 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.880 you know, the colder felt like, oh, if we tell 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:11.600 you what our apologies are. You know, we're going to 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.480 get beat up by the media and we don't know 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.120 how to counter of that, so we're just not going 0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:16.640 to tell you anything and we're not going to give 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.800 you anything. It was inauthentic. It was frankly pathetic. 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.560 And also let me just point out to that sickening 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:26.120 moment where they turned on just Enter Price and let's 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.719 talk about who the leadership contenders are for the Liberal Party. 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:32.359 But to turn on just Enter Price at the moment 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.639 she said let's make let's make Australia great again. 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:36.120 She had to retract that. 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:40.760 It is disgusting, it was embarrassing. She looked like, well, 0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:44.720 just the fear in the eyes as she was saying 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:45.200 those words. 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:46.800 You see the fear in the eyes. 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:48.119 As you were saying of Dutton and the rest of 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:50.600 them around. Oh my goodness, we're going to be associated 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.680 with total Trump. Yeah, the most successful politician in the world. 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:55.280 Why didn't you want to be associated with him? 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:55.480 Again? 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:55.760 I can't. 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:59.280 Oh, yes, because Labor old you and you fell into 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.919 the trap, walked straight into it, because Labor and the 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.640 ABC played you like a fiddle. Now let's talk about 0:21:05.720 --> 0:21:09.280 Rita who you know, James is right, the Liberal Party, 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.719 if it's to survive, needs a strong conservative leader. They 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:14.840 will take the wrong lesson out of this and I'll go, oh, well, 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.280 let's put someone who's more like ALBINIZI, let's go more 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.639 to the left, and you're finished, by the way if 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.800 you do that. But Rita, who do you reckons? Who 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:23.359 have they got? 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:24.200 Well? 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:26.920 I was told it was a three way race, but 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.040 this morning apparently it's now become a four way race. 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:34.280 Angus Taylor is amongst the front runners. I would suggest 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.399 that his performance throughout the election campaign should disqualify him 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:38.399 from being a front runner. 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:38.960 But here we. 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:44.159 Are incredibly Susan lay his names being thrown around and 0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:47.120 if you want to completely decimate and destroy whatever's left 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.400 of the party, please go ahead and do that, because 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:54.479